Arizona Atheist Lawmaker Stands Up To Christian Bully
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- On Monday, February 11, Arizona State Rep. Athena Salman - an openly atheist lawmaker - delivered a secular and inclusive invocation to start the legislative session. Afterward, Republican State Rep. John Kavanagh asked to speak and used his time to mock Salman's invocation by introducing his special guest "God."
Rep. Salman did not back down. The next day she rose to protest the denigration and belittlement of her invocation, calling attention to the mockery of nonreligious people that has become routine in the Arizona state legislature.
We want to applaud Rep. Salman for her courage and determination. Atheists, agnostics, humanists, and nonreligious Americans have every right to serve as lawmakers and be afforded the same recognition and respect as their peers.
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“When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called a Religion.”
― Robert M. Pirsig
Robert M. Persig sounds like a wise man....
Colossians 2:8 Be careful not to allow anyone to captivate you through an empty, deceitful philosophy that is according to human traditions and the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.
2. 1 Corinthians 3:19-20 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God, since it is written: He catches the wise in their craftiness; and again, The Lord knows that the reasonings of the wise are meaningless.
@@meatdaddy1399 Yes, the Bible does promote gullibility.
@@dacreamofthecrop show me a verse in the Bible that promotes gullibility.
@Kev Przy show me a verse in the Bible that promotes a deceitful philosophy, and show me another verse that promotes human tradition. Since you know enough to bash Christians then show me what you know.
@Kev Przy you still haven't answered my question. Your too busy arguing. Your not being smart thinking.
I have no quarrel with you neither the time of day to discuss with a person who thinks they are wise.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.go girl.
Damn that was epic
That's who one should ignore religion and seek to understand God.
@@caramelpopcorn5714 it is also repeated a million times a day by self proclaimed atheist. Next he will be throwing Pascals wager at you.
With or without religion you’ll always have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things... But for good people to do evil things, that takes something like religion.
Rob Lowe - So you’re saying religions _don’t_ encourage good people to do bad things?
"Atheist lawmaker" about damn time we had some representation.
@Scott Covert so for instance the slave owning *laws*
that you find in Exodus 21: 4-7 & 20-21. E. 7 specifically how to sell your daughter. Leviticus 25:44 which tells you were to buy slaves. L. 27:6 tells how much boys and girls are worth. In the bible.
Numbers 5 : 15-31 gives an easy to follow recipe for our abortion *law*.
And all the laws that came from the bible that instructed women to be subservient and obedient to man. And that they could not own anything or preach in a church.
You want to find passages in the bible to justify invading Iraq or Isreali taking lives and land from the Palestinians well that's Numbers 31 : 17-18.
@Scott Covert or if you have a disobedient child Deuteronomy 21 : 18-21 instructs us to take that child that has dishonored you an stone that child to death.
Also laws for pro war crimes Psalms 137:9
@Scott Covert you need a law to make an already downtrodden woman behave use this law to threaten to cut off her hair: 1 Corinthians 11:5-6
Hijab or burka
@Scott Covert "Properly read,the bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
Isaac Asimov
@Scott Covert in regards to women preaching it more to the point that men of that time had a problem, right? I could care less.
And those antiquated cultural norms/laws are what is used today.
Athiest lawmaker: I'm gonna respectfully talk about the awesome natural wonders of the universe
Christian lawmaker: I'm gonna aggressively and arrogantly assert my supposedly compassionate pretend friend over there to crush you
There should be zero religion in the houses of government.
Yes
so it is up to u to decided ...
@@waitnotable separation of church and state
sammy amin you tyrant
Rob Lowe you’re just as much of an idiot if you think religion doesn’t weasel it’s way into government affairs because of corruption, you dumbass, fight me
Thank for standing up for all of us who don’t believe the lies of religion. Your invocation was beautiful.
"How can I not go to hell?"
Answer: Not going to hell is easier than you think. Some people believe they have to obey the Ten Commandments for their entire lives to not go to hell. Some people believe they must observe certain rites and rituals in order to not go to hell. Some people believe there is no way we can know for sure whether or not we will go to hell. None of these views are correct. The Bible is very clear on how a person can avoid going to hell after death.
The Bible describes hell as a terrifying and horrible place. Hell is described as “eternal fire” (Matthew 25:41), “unquenchable fire” (Matthew 3:12), “shame and everlasting contempt” (Daniel 12:2), a place where “the fire is not quenched” (Mark 9:44-49), and “everlasting destruction” (2 Thessalonians 1:9). Revelation 20:10 describes hell as a “lake of burning sulfur” where the wicked are “tormented day and night forever and ever.” Obviously, hell is a place we should avoid.
Why does hell even exist, and why does God send some people there? The Bible tells us that God “prepared” hell for the devil and the fallen angels after they rebelled against Him (Matthew 25:41). Those who refuse God’s offer of forgiveness will suffer the same eternal destiny of the devil and the fallen angels. Why is hell necessary? All sin is ultimately against God (Psalm 51:4), and since God is an infinite and eternal being, only an infinite and eternal penalty is sufficient. Hell is the place where God’s holy and righteous demands of justice are carried out. Hell is where God condemns sin and all those who reject Him. The Bible makes it clear that we have all sinned (Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 3:10-23), so, as a result, we all deserve to go to hell.
So, how can we not go to hell? Since only an infinite and eternal penalty is sufficient, an infinite and eternal price must be paid. God became a human being in the Person of Jesus Christ (John 1:1, 14). In Jesus Christ, God lived among us, taught us, and healed us-but those things were not His ultimate mission. God became a human being so that He could die for us. Jesus, God in human form, died on the cross. As God, His death was infinite and eternal in value, paying the full price for sin (1 John 2:2). God invites us to receive Jesus Christ as Savior, accepting His death as the full and just payment for our sins. God promises that anyone who believes in Jesus (John 3:16), trusting Him alone as the Savior (John 14:6), will be saved, i.e., not go to hell.
God does not want anyone to go to hell (2 Peter 3:9). That is why God made the ultimate, perfect, and sufficient sacrifice on our behalf. If you want to not go to hell, receive Jesus as your Savior. It is as simple as that. Tell God that you recognize that you are a sinner and that you deserve to go to hell. Declare to God that you are trusting in Jesus Christ as your Savior. Thank God for providing for your salvation and deliverance from hell. Simple faith, trusting in Jesus Christ as the Savior, is how you can avoid going to hell!
@@TorahisTRUTHPsalm Can you stop putting this everywhere? Atheists don't need to be told now not to go to hell, because we don't believe it is real.
@@TorahisTRUTHPsalm What makes the Christian God different from a dictator saying "Kneel before me and pledge your life and services to me, or you will be tortured and executed"?
Why would a god create such a terrible reality where humans are tortured for eternity unless they believe in a story that looks like a fairy tale compared to everyday reality? Doesn't that make god a sadistic monster?
Actually she is an idolator, who worships the creation more than the Creator.
@@TorahisTRUTHPsalm my question to you is 2 fold. Why would you worship a person who has the all mighty power yet chooses to do nothing when say a child is being raped. Maybe ever one of your children. He stands by watching it happen then says I will punish you when you pass. What type of monster do you worship
From personal experience having gone to religious schools and raised in a Catholic family, I find most religious people have no shame, no morals either.
It's a great religion for psychopaths and deeply immoral people. Do whatever you like, cause as much pain and misery as you like, accept Jesus Christ, seek absolution and be welcomed into the kingdom of heaven.
When you die God will not ask you to give an account for other people. You only will have to give an account of your life.
@@dianestafford6968 that only has an effect on your life if believe in gods. People are free to believe in whatever God works for them. If you need it, just don't put that stuff onto others its insulting.
@@catherinejames2734 you be insulted if on the road you were driving the bridge was out and people were trying to get your attention so you wouldn't go to your death?
Yep. them Canadian Catholics with their schools that MURDERED HUNDREDS of kids. Not to mention assisting in the NAZI doings. Why didn't that pope say to all who go along with that crap that they would be excommunicated . Would've stopped the Italians right in the tracks as far as joining the Axis right then and there. But, nnnnoooo.
If the legislator’s statement is deemed important enough to make a video, you should carry her whole speech, instead of cutting it short.
The whole vid would be nice
I agree, wanted to see the whole thing!
You can look up the whole video if you like but just like on the news there is only so much time.
@@claytonrealist8868 cut short to keep the time to 4:20?
Same
If a god truly exists, yet he cannot protect children from being sexually abused in his own place of worship, then what good is this god?
If I was a god and I saw a priest molesting a child I would stop him ... that's the difference between me and the xtian god
It's called FREE WILL and depending on how you exercise this privilege, determines good or bad consequences. Each individual is SOLELY responsible for his or her consequences. Why & at what point would God even need to intervene?
@@rainiparker2569 Wasn't the free will of the victim violated? And aren't all things according to God's plan? And what is a soul anyway? Something that makes decisions for you? Do you have control over what your soul does? How does that work? Are you given a soul? Does a soul have more knowledge then we know of? Is a babies soul as complete as an adults?
@@rainiparker2569 Free will is not an excuse to abuse or allow abuse. Same goes for gods. Nobody has a problem with police or citizens intervening to stop gross abuse of the innocent. No body shouts "Don't stop him, otherwise you are compromising the rapists free will". Are you kidding me.
@@rodbrewster4629 I wish I had all the answers, but sadly, none of us do. It all depends on each individuals belief system. Do I believe I have a soul? Yes. Was it given to me by God? Yes. Do I control my own soul? Yes. Are souls, new or old, complete? I don't believe so. I believe we never stop learning or progressing throughout life or even past death. As for the free will of a victim being violated, I have to say that the word "victim" is not only over-used, but questionable in origin. "Victim" is by origin "victima", Latin for "sacrificial animal". Unless we're talking about animals, a human victim always has a choice. If we're talking about a child victims, it is the parent's responsibilty to protect their child until a time when the child can protect itself. I believe the majority of the masses make too many excuses against responsibility for self & blaming others for their own wrong, crappy decisions. Most bad situations can be prevented, as long as nature is not involved. I could go on & on, but as I stated earlier, neither you, nor I, have all the answers, just beliefs. Each to his own. Good day to you 🌞
Imagine standing up and screaming into a microphone about your imaginary friend.
@Rob Lowe it's not an imaginary friend!he's magic and created the universe. And supported slavery!
@Rob Lowe give me your best evidence for the existence of a god, let alone a christian god. oh and you cant use the bible. "but the bible says...and thats true....bc the bible says its true". you wanna talk ad hominem. i was specifically calling out a ridiculous behaviour. way to define it i guess? fail daddy mi dispiace.
@Rob Lowe exodus gives specific god inspired rules on how to treat your slaves. also, when did i say i lied? bc i reading the 1 comment i said back to you and i dont see anything like that?
@Rob Lowe also your magic book explains it all remember? like when god made light first, and then the stars! In 7 days! and the earth is 6000 years old! and dinosaur bones are a test. and evolution isnt real, no yes it is, but god made evolution. thats you. youre started, toddle to me.
@Rob Lowe Where?!
Any religious organization that wants a voice in government better start paying taxes. NO TAXES, NO VOICE IN GOVERNMENT!
*Religion was invented when the first conman met the first fool.*
_Mark Twain._
Fuck the government.
How about just no income and property taxes in general? One is the omission that government owns your labor and you by default. The other is the omission that they own all property. Both are acts of tyrants and they should be treated as such. Hung at the gallows.
@@billyandrew the allures in this pointless world isn't sufficient without the belief and resolve which makes us act therein
to you is your death and to me is mine
it doesn't matter if there is heaven or a void therein to you is your end and to me is mine
I am in awe for what is now and what is to come
Make this happen . Worldwide.
I didn't even know there was an openly atheist elected official anywhere in the country. It's a step in the right direction. I'm proud of Rep. Salman.
No. The laws of the land were founded upon Christian principles. There is no reason atheist should be making laws. If that’s the case they should move to North Korea.
@@jdos5643 Nah. Religion needs to stay out of politics, period. Not everyone is religious, and when you try and force an entire nation into one belief system, then congrats - you’re now a fascist country!
@@MattKittredge2112 atheism is a religion so be specific.
@@jdos5643 Atheists should be making laws, because we need to include everyone.
@@jdos5643 You are demonstrating your morals very well here. You are against the freedom of all people. Now imagine it the other way around, what would you say I demanded that religious people shouldnt be able to participate in politics?
Also some of the founding fathers werent religious. The constitution was founded on the secular principle. I would read more about the constitution, my friend. The secular principle is in the essence of it.
And atheism is not a religion. Its the lack of religion and faith. It just says that there is no sufficient evidence (none) to believe in a god. Its not based on faith. Nice try calling it a religion, though.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Thomas Jefferson was a theist and not religious for example. The same goes for Thomas Paine. Just two examples.
It's truly insane to hear a grown human being introduce his magical imaginary friend.
Whike the atheist invoke magic? 😉
@@1969cmp I agree. Only atheists believe God to be a "magical imaginary friend."
@@Kafei because you still have ZERO evidence of your imaginary dictator.
@@Kafei
"Only atheists believe God to be a "magical imaginary friend.""
Whereas the religious believe god to be a magical friend that can't be seen, or heard, or detected in any way whatsoever! Yeah, that's really the _sane_ alternative to the Atheists' view, isn't it?
imagine how hilarious it would be if Athena opened by introducing "Lucille" to the room lol
People love to invoke god except when it comes to treating people decently, then they act like god gives them the right to hurt others.
It makes me angry tbh, using "God" for hurting people or stealing from people is very scummy.
@@grizzlycharizard0017, way too many people use god for their own self interested purposes.
@@JacksonHoulihan So true
@HomoTriSapien Romans 1:20
New International Version
20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
@Bryan Heagy
And ironically, a basic tenet of most religions is to treat others as you'd want others to treat you.
The more christians speak, the more damage they do to their own myths.
I'm a Christian. Would you be willing to talk about Christianiy?
@@anunknownentity1637 I would. I used to be Christian, then I turned seven.... what would you like to discuss?
@@Gk2003m so what was it that led you away from Christianiy
@@anunknownentity1637 Reason and reality. I did not replace that religion with any other. A question for you: do you need to go to church/synagogue/mosque constantly to get your belief in gravity reinforced, else you float away off the planet? Of course not. You are aware of a force from the moment you emerge from the womb. It keeps you crawling for many months, then it knocks you down as you learn to walk. Then it penalizes you every time your toddler hands lose their grip on a glass of milk or a fork or a sandwich, and that thing you were holding falls on the table of floor and it spills or breaks.
At a certain age, you learn that force has a name: gravity. A little later, you learn the mathematics of the force called gravity.
But you never ever have to have a teacher convince you it exists. And every culture knows of this force called gravity, and in every culture the mathematics of it remain identical
If god actually existed, no one would have to convince you of it. You would not have to go to church every week to have your belief in it reinforced. It would be this unmistakable presence. It might have different names in the varied languages, but its essence would be identical and demonstrable across every culture. Its effects would likewise be universal.
Instead, even within Christianity, the Methodists can’t agree with the Adventists or the Presbyterians about exactly what god is.
And there are tens of thousands of religions. If there are such differences, then not only are all but one necessarily wrong.... all are necessarily wrong.
This all became obvious to me at age seven, as I sat in the pews and in my weekly religious instruction class. Understand that from birth til then, I had the cross above my bed and believed and prayed frequently. But it all collapsed once my ability to think really took hold.
@@Gk2003m Hello, I'm glad you responded so now I'll make my response.
You started by claiming that if God exists he would be as evident as gravity.
Now ignoring this has no actual backing at all and is purely opinion, I'll bite. You used the example of gravity, which is odd as it helps me more than you may have anticipated. God, like gravity, is something you don't see. Yet Gods existence, like gravity, is abundantly obvious. in the book titled "Why God won't go away" alot of research is brought to the forefront regarding theistic beliefs. Something interesting is that infants and young children have theistic tendencies. Similar to gravity, most people are born with a favor towards a theistic perception of reality.
You said every culture knows about gravity and you don't need a teacher to tell you about it.
Sorry but this seems like a bit of a stretch. Are you unironically saying that most cultures have a better understanding of gravity as opposed to a belief in God? Even the most primitive cultures tend to hold to some sort of supernatural beliefs.
Now you asked do I have to go to a church to reinforce my belief in gravity.
The answer is no and the same goes for God. There have been times where I've gone on long hiatuses from church, yet I didn't stop believing in Gods existence. In fact, I have gained more confidence in the proposition of Christian theism outside the church rather than in. I think you mistake why I, and many others go to church. It's not so we can get in our echo chamber and reaffirm our beliefs. We can do that online at anytime. We don't have to wake up early on Sundays to reaffirm our presuppositions. Most Christians, such as myself, go because we receive a great amount of pleasure in worshipping our God and everything He has done for us. I know this is starting to sound like a sermon but I needed to point out your flaws regarding why many go to church at all.
Now as for your claims about thousands of religions. While there are a lot of religions out there are only a select few that have any respectable following. Sure when you say thousands of God's exist that may be true but most people today don't put their faith in the Greek or Norse pantheon. I mean I haven't even talked about polytheism which if you have thousands of God and one polytheistic religion then you can always say well there are thousands of Gods. Your statements that because there are so many differences regarding views on God it means that they are all necessarily wrong does not follow and I ask you to provide evidence for this. Your an atheist, you like science right. Would it shock you if I told you that often times scientists have very different views on how to explain something. I would also point out that I find the evidence for most of these religions rather unconvincing.
So now that you have established that you rejected theism at age seven, I would ask you if it is possible that I could convince you to reconvert to Christianity. I care about your soul and even if you think religion is pure nonsense you must understand that from the perspective of the religious person there is no more important thing to do than help others.
I believe there are good reasons to believe Christianitys is true. I also believe kids are raised in Christian homes that have a rather mythical theology that causes them to reject nonsense. Nonsense like a young earth, a global flood, dinosaurs living with man. I see people being given ridiculous views on science and theology that, unsurprisingly, causes a significant number of them to reject the absurdities they where taught.
I couldn't help but laugh when he called on his imaginary guest because it was so ridiculous. He was so confident and smug about it, completely oblivious to his delusion. He doesn't realize that a person of a different faith could make a mockery of his belief just as easily.
What's crazier is that if he would've referred to any Greek God or Zues or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, he probably would have been removed from the room and sent off for "evaluation".
"His delusion" Are you sure about that? Really? No, it is your delusion. Face it.
@@hugemonkeyballs A delusion is believing in something that has never been proven or in spite of contrary evidence, so yes I'm sure. Not believing in something that has never been proven is not a delusion. Do you believe that the Gods of other religions are real or just yours? And if you don't believe in Hindu Gods, or Greek Gods, are you delusional? The only evidence I have for Gods is from the human imagination, just like a story in any book, or film. Just because people believe it, doesn't make it any more real. Until it's proven, I'll view it as imaginary, at best a hypothesis.
@@gabe687 im atheist i dont believe in any gods
@@hugemonkeyballs That makes sense, I can't give a different answer to the question. It still stands to reason, but I'm not sure what you meant, or why you asked it if you already have the concept in mind to know the answer.
PLEASE VOTE MORE ATHEISTS INTO OFFICE
Stalin would be proud.
@@mrtadreamer stalin wouldn't like voting. Or other people in the office. Or market capitalism.
@@Jifpete True, that's why these jokers want to vote in atheists, and not "other people", who love and acknowledge the God of heaven and earth. That way they would have the power to lock them up and throw away the key.
Here, Not SO Fast. This will clarify things and make perfect sense.... czcams.com/video/m9JPSLDX68A/video.html
@Folk Aart Relax, according to my research, the slippery slope of abandoning Biblical morality has opened the door for pedos to rebrand themselves as a "child lover" and "minor attracted" oppressed minority, and you'll be on the bandwagon defending their "human right" to "love" whoever they want, against us religious bigots.
‘Openly atheist lawmaker’ America, you are making progress!
Stalin would be proud.
@@mrtadreamer ohhh i see you projecting!
@@RickReasonnz How so?
VERY slow, their education system needs to improve. Parts of the US is still considered 3rd world standard of living/edu, which allows them to contol the weak minded more easily.
@@mrtadreamer do you know what projecting is?
That atheist lawmaker is an inspiration to everyone, as she follows the constitution and rules, and calls out their hypocrisy and insulting behavior of supposed "christians"
I disagree.
@@teejayfax7040 Good for you, bigot.
Did the devil tell you to post that?
👿🤔😜😂😂😂
@@yabutmaybenot.6433 What's up with the name calling? Weren't you just talking about those Christians and their insulting behavior?
@EXTREME VLOGS! Thank you. We need to learn to try to respect each other. i don't mock or laugh at my christian friends or work collegues.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
― Voltaire
To do atrocities, it is enough that your well-being depends on them...
@@DVXDemetrivs Damn. . . .
Voltaire is buried underneath a library. Meanwhile the Bible has sold billions of copies
Such as abortion
@@Eman-vp5wk Exactly.
If God is in the gallery, let him speak for himself.
I don't need second hand information from an invisible prompter.
You can't hear him if you dont listen.
It's like astrology. If you observe what it tells you, you think it's real. But you are just seeing something you want to see. Now go get the difference between stars alignment and everything mankind knows.
@@jeandubois2754 I am not the one claiming to see things that are clearly not on camera, nor am I claiming to hear things that are not on microphone.
Let's do this experiment. We put you and Mr Kavanaugh on the floor there. Then we ask both of you to "translate" what god at the balcony is saying.
Are you sure you will hear the same thing?
@@dozog That's the point. You assure they can't hear the same thing. But some can accept another point of view without constraint. It's called freedom, god, empathy, etc And that's the reason we can live together, in a complex society.
@@jeandubois2754 Anywhere in society that would be correct. Just not in a government setting.
Besides, it just stupid to invoke the invisible, the unverifiable, the inaudible as an argument for anything.
Party A says god wants to enforce viewpoint A.....
Can be refuted by any party B by claiming god told him the exact opposite.
@@alphach1mp Ok, I ll do that. Asking medicine sciences ^^
You seem to be very far from reality.
Just accept what s in your head is wrong (and everything a human can express is wrong). Simple exemple :
1 + 1 = 2
Just go find 2 same things in the universe. You can't, just because if there were 2 same things, they would be at the same place at the same time. Which makes only 1 thing.
You put anything in a box, so you can't see the whole thing.
If god's in the room he needs to start paying taxes on all his homes.
Since he's everywhere all the time I'd appreciate if he started paying his part of the rent.
He owns all the money in the world too, that's what you're missing. The money you use to pay taxes and buy food ... He gives to you. Don't get simplistic on me now and tell me that you work for it. Think a little deeper.
He also owns the fate of every child sex slave who dies with a heroin needle in their arm to escape the daily rape by 60+ year old pedos.. Just coincidentally.
@@collectorduck9061
No, He doesn't. He's given us each other to deal with each other ... and He offers protection to whomever will accept it. If you reject that Divine offer, then you are subject to the vicissitudes of fate.
You're knocking it before not only trying it, but before even understanding it by taking a closer untriggered look.
God is Love.. Hallelujah !
@@gherieg.1091 God is love : 200 children gets raped and dies of aids every day. You sick fuck.
"And sitting next to god is the tooth fairy and her good friend santa claus" .
beeing a christian does not automatickly make you a good person
No, only bad persons (who realise they are bad) become Christians.
It doesn’t, but it does seem to make them think its ok to be a bad person,
@@deniss2623 the vast majority are born into families that hold the belief, and are indoctrinated as small children.
Then the religious doctrine tells them they are bad.
These days, showing yourself to be a religious person also comes with acting like a complete bigoted jack ass.
@@barkYdarkATFB Not all child abuse is physical….
“Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion”
― Steven Weinberg
@Lee Keebum Someone smarter than you , obviously.
@Lee Keebum - in the Age of Information, ignorance is a choice.
In the Age of Information, we can know more and more about less and less.
Only in your head.
Amen! We must quote the greats Saints of Logic to expel the unbelievers. Hallelujah! Logic be praised! The Body of Science is great and beyond measure!
Ma’am, I don’t know who you are, but you make me proud to be a human. Thank you for standing up to religious bullies.
Problem is she's the bully. We need no religion opening congress unless we will have members of every religion in the world stand up for equal time. Why does she think everyone else needs to sit down but we have to listen to her christen prattle.
@@robertloe9017 She's an atheist.
I suppose that all that exists began as floating atoms and just coincidentally arranged themselves also transforming from non living material to living materials?
@@robertloe9017 she is not a Christian did you not hear of what she was saying. That faith or people of that faith are bullies telling people who are not them are evil and go to be dammed. I for one do not bow to anyone of any faith who carelessly disregard others for their beliefs. It only mean that they are full of shit and can't stand the fact that they might be wrong.
@@andyecheandia8375 everything is speculative. If you think you have found information that is concrete where there is proof, then present it to us all. This doesn't include the the Bible for most of us know that book is for lessons learned not to be revered. It doesn't prove anything of a God.
Bravo to Arizona State Rep. Athena Salman and thank you to the Secular Coalition for bringing this to my(our)attention. I signed the petition.
@Phillip Hickman separation of church and state.
He made an asshole move, asserting a claim without evidence; and for the record got told what an asshole he was.
He should be thrown out of his seat.
@Phillip Hickman The Arizona Constitution was written in 1910. Very few were educated enough to doubt the 'established' religions. Perhaps if we wish to revert to that standard, we should also do away with vehicles and revert to horses for personal and commercial transportation. Perhaps we should do away with electrical connections for homes. Certainly we should do away with radio, television, and cell phones.
As she read aloud - just because it's been around for a long time does not make it valid or worthy of superior respect.
@Phillip Hickman it's in the US constitution, which supersedes. So, such thing.
@Phillip Hickman yes it is, separation of church and state is derived from the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause
Are you just going to pull comments out of your ass like Trump? You do realise that he's a serial liar, right? Do you really want to be on equal footing with that habitual liar on making claims?
@Phillip Hickman Cherry pick much? It's in the US constitution: Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause.
It's freedom of religion. For all, so including non's. Thus Separation of church and state.
He could have shared his religious belief without mocking hers. That was simply rude.
"He could have shared his religious belief without mocking hers." Indeed, to have spent so many years on this earth and still not learned how to disagree with others in a respectable way is just shameful.
Why should he share his religious belief at all in the legislature?
Or, even better, he could just fuck straight off to the kiddie table and never return.
"Rude" is putting it lightly.
John Kavanagh is godawful and reprehensible. He's an unabashed narrow-minded, big-mouthed misogynist, homophobe, Christian supremacist, transphobe, know-it-all.
Worse, he seems to specialize in "culture war" issues when sponsoring bills, rather than writing bills to make Arizonans healthier and happier.
If God is indeed in the gallery, perhaps they should invite him down to say some words.
I understand what your trying to say, but NO NO No. Do not invite them to have God reply, because you know they speak for her/him/them/ it.
As long as he finally pays taxes.
perhaps they should invite her down to say some words.
There fixed it or ya
But he's invisible and works in mysterious ways by playing hide and seek.
He/she/ it is too shy for its own good , I guess.
Why would an all-powerful god need an old fart to speak up for him?
If an old fart is willing the trust and obey Him, He will choose him over anyone else.
Because god is useless powerless pussy. That's why all the horrors of this world, are done by plain a gulable people in his name, not by himself.
Or he doesn't exist and those people are just assholes.
One of those two.
@@nestoNESTOnesto As it's written: "He who spreads slander is a fool."
badsponge when he said that I thought all right finally.,god will speak for himself. But of course it was more platitudes sigh. I was waiting for him to hand the mic over but of course the most powerful being on the universe can’t speak for himself. So omnipotent to need old farts and charlatans to speak for you gtfoh
Jocelyn - can't reply on original comment thread.
I love seeing politicians defending the state and federal constitutions.
@Phillip Hickman The Arizona Constitution was written in 1910. Very few were educated enough to doubt the 'established' religions. Perhaps if we wish to revert to that standard, we should also do away with vehicles and revert to horses for personal and commercial transportation. Perhaps we should do away with electrical connections for homes. Certainly we should do away with radio, television, and cell phones. As she read aloud - just because it's been around for a long time does not make it valid or worthy of superior respect.
See how easy it is to repeat the same thing? That alone does not make it more valid.
@Nathan El Lovely to see you resorting to name-calling and ignorance. Usually takes theists longer than one or two comments before they run out of word salad and sink this low.
@Phillip Hickman Older than that? I am not sure why you are referring to the US constitution - this problem arose from someone quoting the preamble to the Arizona constitution - which, according to the Arizona website, was written in 1910 and officially adopted in 1911. Arizona was the last state to join in 1912. You are not missing some understanding of written material or historical fact, are you?
@Nathan El Name calling is just the resort of the weak-minded, or those who have nothing of factual body to add to the discussion.
Throwing in the name of 'cultural hegemony', though terribly misused, only indicates that you dropped out of a Community College course in some Social Science before completion, since it has no bearing on the current discussion.
@Nathan El The US constitution is irrelevant in this context, since we/I was rebutting Phillip Hickman's note stating that this position giving credence to theists was embodied in the constitution of Arizona - the jurisdiction under consideration in this discussion.
Just because others have done it, and it has been around a long time, the use of personal insults and derogatory comments do nothing to enhance your credibility. Baseless insults remain ignorant and irrelevant.
You apparently decided I am an Atheist, based on my correction of Phillip's constitutional preamble, while I never mentioned any belief or lack thereof in theist philosophy. Interesting conclusion for you to jump to.
Much like your constant comparison of each thought or idea to a 'communist' link. Perhaps you are still in the McCarthy era, and there are Reds in every closet. Or perhaps just your closet.
Since you can apparently not find it in your mind - or soul, if you prefer - to be polite enough to respect those to whom you are speaking, you are not worthy of debate. Children learn more about discussion than to throw insults: remember Stick and Stones? You should.
PS - I would not even consider taking part in what you refer to as an 'argument'. And argument is a battle of sorts. I prefer 'discussions', in which, through mutual respect and intelligent information, all participants get to learn, and perhaps to change or adapt their personal positions. Probably a cultural thing.
_"I'd like to introduce my guest God. God is in the gallery"_
You'd almost believe you're watching a fairy tale or fantasy movie instead of the Arizona House Floor here.
God is not invited to speak for matters of the state.
So God's on their side, but he's invisible, undetectable, and never does a damn thing.
God does wonderful things like choosing to save some people from its wrath while inflicting disease on the innocent.
Any one that still believes and witnessed how each and every religion with their one and only true god has failed to answer their prayers during Covid is a loser AND a cunt. You all waited for science to save your ass 😂
@@pbg9208 doctor, nurses, and scientist working hard but they are thanking to god.
God does not react according to Your conditions or desires
@@pbg9208 first off we created science and the majority of scientists are religious or spiritual and they all prayed dipshit
When her collegues all came up to stand in support of her... so powerful!
Yes, because peer pressure is the best way to make people conform. Well, that and re-education camps, indoctrination since birth, nailing them to a cross, etc…..
Cows will always follow the leader of the herd without thinking.
Next time the guy should stand up and do an invocation from Satan. We’ll see how strictly she follows that rule to be tolerant of other religions. Give unto Cesar that which is Cesar’s…y’all do know the rest, right?
@@whiplashfatigue1430 actually… the church of Satan and the Satanic temple are both with reading up on. Much more rationale than other churches
Nah, he been an idiot, but that just seems like she can't stand up for herself, needing her friends to back her up in the fight, which is why she shouldn't have been talking, she had seemingly never seen the paper in front if her be fire reading it aloud, possibly nervous because, / in top if that
@@whiplashfatigue1430 Marxists and Communists are the ones who suffer unjust persecution and silencing and lack of representation in the West. I proudly defend Marxists and communists for fighting for my freedoms and rights.
@@whiplashfatigue1430 What????
She had a lot of folks standing up behind her didn't she. Nice to see.
:)
I hate hypocrites who use their "god" to inflict harm upon others.
Me too
She praises the universe he says his god made and he belittles her for it.
It's pretty r3tarded to reify the impersonal universe
@@joshcornell8510 Yeah so good thing she didn’t do that.
@@joshcornell8510 can you elaborate and/or explain what you mean in much more detail?
It's really awesome how so many of her collegues stood next to her!!!
Yes, and sad to realize that they had to, because we all know she was at risk of being shouted down or otherwise humiliated _again_ for protesting so directly against bullying from the dominant religion.
It’s really sad and shameful how do many of her colleagues stood next to her!!!
Discussing isn't it.
@@lewisstreet7266 It's sad and shameful that all of them didn't back her.
You go girl!!!
There's millions behind you!!!
And will make heaven a lot less crowded. btw, it's "There ARE millions" not "there's"
Doesn’t matter, since heaven doesn’t exist. No eternal reward for your obscene pious conceit.
More like billions. All religions are steady dying out. thanks to the internet.
Aww, he has no friends and has to make up an imaginary one. Poor bloke.
Sadly for all who mock God is the truth that they will have to stand before the Judgement Seat of Christ someday
@@dianestafford6968
Diane, you are going to be really annoyed when standing before Odin that you chose the wrong god. Not as annoyed as Odin though.
@@dianestafford6968 who says your "god" is the real god????????? your god is just some product of imagination (and a way to make money for a lot of people)
@@mauriciomorro6693 one day every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord
@@dianestafford6968 you can bow to a mouse if you want to. It has about the same value as your "god"
so the guy is arguing that his imaginary friend trumps your rights.....
That's right. Get used to it.
@@deniss2623 No thanks. Keep your delusions.
@@deniss2623 "A government cannot be premised on the belief that all persons are created equal when it asserts that God prefers some." - Justice Harry Blackmun
@@Dr_JSH
God has mercy on some and hardens others. (Romans 9)
"god entered the gallery" - and no one walks in. If someone said this in ANY OTHER CONTEXT they would be absolutely INSANE - but when the invite their invisible zombie space friend in everyone pays respect. ABSURD.
Theres a reason why the founding fathers separated religion from gov, cause they thought it was DANGEROUS>...
No, they KNEW and having come from religious persecution, were adamant in preventing that from being replicated here.
@@lidex
The founding fathers weren't Puritan. They separated church and state not to protect it, but to protect people who _didn't_ adhere to it. Remember, the Puritans, despite wanting religious freedom, persecuted anyone who strayed from their specific denomination? Like the hypocrites they were?
Yeah. That's why there's a separation.
Yep. The separation of church and state is not to prevent you from practicing your Religion but to stop you from forcing me to practice your religion.
Correction... They KNEW it was dangerous!
@@TigersAreTerrific why is knew insted of thought? I am learning English. Just curious.
It amazes me when people laugh at bullying behavior.
Republicans, “This is the Land of the FREE, to be just like Me.”.
@Miguel Torres Name calling and complete misinterpretation of a platitude all within a simple (very simple, as in coming from a simple mind) nine word sentence, bravo.
@Miguel Torres IF the Majority Rules, HOW have Republicans gained the White House in the last 3 DECADES, without Ever gaining the POPULAR VOTE?!
@Miguel Torres u said,
“the MAJORITY “.
dementia?
@Miguel Torres I’m rubber, your glue. Everything you say, bounces Off me, and sticks to You.
Just figured I’d fight childish, With childish.
Ummm, it was the religious aspect, don't think political "affiliation" has ANYTHING to do with god pushers.
And once again the worst advertisment for Christianity goes to the Christian who sees things that aren't there.
God has bad snake oil sellers...since honest people leave him to persue science and education.
@Jordan Hitchens yes it is and yes they do.compared to atheist scientist their a minority and noone of em believes in a literal bible with talking snakes or donkeys and a tree of life, The only reason they couldnt be atheist before no is due to being executed.by religion to preserve faith. Or kill them for no reason like witchhunts ....religion doesnt really care. I saw ur comments and ur a real bully not better or smarter than everyone else.
@Jordan Hitchens but they join the church to have the sexy time with the pretty boys!
Gravity must not be there then. What do we breathe then, because I can't see it. I guess there is no such thing as WiFi, I can't see it so I must be getting internet service some other way. SMH 😒
@@dr.perspective8298 Yea right, gravity, air and Wifi can all be demonstrated, and thanks to you even apologetic bullshit as well.
This just made me livid! You go, Athena!
...spoken like an postmodernist.
I assume you are referring to me... I actually consider myself primarily a modernist. :-)
Just that constant pressure to treat religious people with respect and understanding, but they rarely return the favor.
Probably because, as you point out. You don't treat them with the respect that you demand yourself in the first place.
You get what you give. Thats how life works
There seemed to be no evidence of any god in the gallery. A perfect demonstration of the practical non existence of supernatural beings.
Science teaches to believe on evidence, religion teaches you don’t need evidence to believe
He was totally correct, i could see Zeus and Apollo over by the flag shaking their heads in disbelief that anyone could fail to believe in them when the evidence is so overwhelming.
I saw them at a wrestling match once.
@oops
This "jeebus" fellow is of course not real, no merit to it.
Of course Zeus and Apollo are. They are revealed in scientifically and historically accurate documents corroborating eye witness accounts.
Why did the ancient greeks worship Zeus & Apollo?
@Jackie Chan Thank U Jackie Chan, chinese sleuth. U caught me. Here's a cookie.
As someone who lives in Arizona, I am not surprised. As someone who lives in Arizona, I am proud to see State Rep. Athena Salman representing us.
on a tangent, athena is a really cool name.
@@BattousaiHBr Proud? Wow, I would be ashamed, she should go and hide under a rock someplace where she belongs. :)
@@Warrior99980 wrong reply bro lol
@@BattousaiHBr Laugh all you want, I've seen it happen.
I too live in Az and her saying what she did is a testament that atheism is a joke that has no moral foundation. You guys think your ancestors are fish.
Shows how substantial christian faith is - has to make fun of someone because they feel such insecurity about their own beliefs
If God is indeed everywhere and in everything as he claimed, then He is in Rep. Salman as well. He didn't just mock her; he mocked God as well.
I wish we had people representing us in my area with half the backbone she does.
Jocelyn - try this comment thread.
religios zealots have a backbone but what good is a backbone if there's no brain attached to it? brains and balls? Now that's a winning combo! lol
@Rob Lowe wow good one, real original. you really got me. lmfao.
God will crush her if she keeps bashing him!!!
@@j.oaklley8965 ohh no LOOK OUT⚡⚡
Great job standing up for separation of church and state.
OUTSTANDING Athena. I wish I would have heard this when it first happened. OUTSTANDING, thank you for standing up proudly for your rights and mine, to practice or NOT practice religion or a particular religion.
“Being a Humanist means trying to behave decently without expectation of rewards or punishment after you are dead.”
― Kurt Vonnegut
WHEN WILL WE MOVE BEYOND THE NEED FOR A SUPERNATURAL BEING TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE DON'T KNOW?
the word "never" springs to mind . . . probably because i've been observing the human race for more than 70 years and haven't seen any changes not for the worse.
[ i'm beginning to realize why Nicola Tesla preferred pigeons to people ]
Whatever happened to the founding fathers’ insistence, and reasoning behind the separation of church and state!!!
Cranky old white people know the founding fathers about as well as they know how to navigate Netflix.
I find religion to be an utter waste of time.
If it was just limited to a waste of time.......
@Cleo Fierro more like ranting at the dipshits who buy into this nonsense.
@Cleo Fierro
Thank you for that immensely childish knee jerk reaction, "gods-believer".
@Cleo Fierro
I forgot angry and resentful...
Cleo Fierro your god must be so proud of you.
There WILL come a time, when WE Atheists WILL be the majority. As science and knowledge expands, religious myth shrinks. As many atheists do, I respect the right for a person to believe whatever he/she chooses. However, I do not have to respect the belief itself. Spirituality is fine, but organized religion is a blight on humanity (in my humble opinion)
Too right mate!
Religion is for the spiritually bereft.
WTF ever happened to the separation of church and state? Religion drives this country in the wrong way almost daily!!!!
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
― Voltaire
I would point out that if this fella can see this “god” in the gallery and point “him” out that he should be held for an assessment of his mental capacity. That sounds like some kind of dissociative disorder or schizophrenia.
god serves narcissists well! :)
God's in all things. In fact, there's nothing that's not part and parcel of the Totality of God.
@@Kafei now that's it... put down that joint and go to your room.
@@Kafei If you want your god to be in everything then he is in the bad as well as the good. He is in the rape and murder of children in millions of cases daily all over the world. He is in the hearts and minds of the crazy people that set of bombs at a concert in Manchester UK. He is in the hearts and minds of people that fly planes in to buildings in his name. I assume you will now use special pleading in order to get you out of that!
....and some like minded idiots applauded him....fuck me dead.
GREAT FOR HER‼️ IT’S ABOUT TIME‼️
Thank God I was a lifelong trained gymnast, because the brain flips you have to perform to understand Christianity takes a ton of skill and agility
Not to mention delusion and self deceit.
1:41 "I would like to introduce my guest,god"
IF I was there I would have asked him which god he was referring to...then I'd say aren't you a bit old to have an imaginary friend?
When atheists ask me which God, I ignore them for asking questions they already know the answer to. Then laff in their faces for the infantile nature of the second one.
@@mrtadreamer On the contrary, there are thousands of gods you are an atheist in regards to, so you must be specific. And learn to spell.
@@mrtadreamer So, again, you make assumptions about other folks lives....then instead of correcting them, you belittle them...yup, sounds like a typical christian to me!
@@mrtadreamer "When atheists ask me which God, I ignore them for asking questions they already know the answer to. "
Oh? And what makes you think I know you are not Hindu or some other religion that has a pantheon of deities?
He says that and then proceeds to speak for himself. It's almost like he and his ideals are his own god...
Thank you, State Rep. Athena Salman. Some people you just can't help.
There is no hate quite like Christian love…
Its amazing what stories people make up to escape death
What do you mean?
@Mike Seork The way I've always put it when asked what I think happens when we die is "how the hell should I know, and furthermore, how the hell should you know". These things are not knowable, and anyone trying to claim the have the answers is a liar.
Kavanagh's introduction of his god was so pedantic and done with the pure purpose of insulting and being disrespectful that he even sounded as if he was being sarcastic and actually mocking god. He got me confused for a second there...
I was expecting “god” to actually hold the mike and speak
To them, god is just a tool for discrimination. They don't actually believe in heaven, or hell. They just know that religion is a control mechanism for the masses, and a means for power.
Yeah, sure which is why the rest of the room clapped as soon as he was done.
I think we can all agree that Kavanagh is a douchebag
@Joe Horn Yes a lot of people were clapping for Rep. Kavanagh then whoever made the video cut away from it because it was damaging her bitch session she was about to go on
Love it! Thank you for standing up that bully.
“I’m right and you’re wrong and you’re going to burn in hell for not believing what I believe” is the biggest problem with religion.
To paraphrase from "Kingdom of Heaven": "I put no stock in religion. By the word religion I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much religion in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What god desires, (If there is one), is here [points to head] and here [points to heart] and what you decide to do every day, you will be a good man - or not." As one who long-ago cancelled his subscription to the resurrection, these words ring with me. Cheers for Athena Salman!.
Idk how the legal process works but I loved the people standing around her in support.
I loved it too.
That just shows how much religion has infected sane peoples brains.
@Rob Lowe Why is she doing exactly what she is claiming he's doing??, l don't know.
@Rob Lowe They All think their invisible god is real.
@Rob Lowe Please don't assume things about me, science isn't a god, it doesn't demand worship or send you to hell if you don't believe it, science describes the best possible tested answer to things we examine. Without science we wouldn't have medicine, the internet or planes. What can you show anything a god did for us?. l mean real things.
Here's my invocation: "Meeting is called to order, let's get to work. Cellphones and imaginary sky-giants are not be heard from at this time."
I would argue if u believe in imaginary sky giants i don't think you should be working in anything that effects important decisions like these. You would be committed to an asylum if you told a similar story under a name other than god or jesus.
God? Are you there? Seems he’s introducing nobody but his own delusion.
Religion, is another form of control
*Give us the boy and we'll give you the man.*
_The Jesuits._
So, the Christians are so sure they are wrong that they need to mock others to feel better? The lack of self esteem is palpable, especially when the other lost fairytale believers join in the laughter. It's a shame that they die pretending they are immortal.
Jerome Thorp
You forgot to mention that they don't take responsibility for their actions because they think that J.C. is in charge of forgiving their atrocities.
@@ataho2000 God holds us responsible for our actions, and commands us to not only seek forgiveness, but to also to abandon our sins and with by the power of His Spirit, to change and to be transformed in our character into the image of Christ, and to not continue doing the same wrongs over and over. That is Biblical repentance.
Phillip, the Preamble may say this because of those in power push their religion on others - otherwise nobody would be following your religion. The bible describes your "god" as a serial baby-killer and very incompetent. They can put "god" on the money, preambles, the pledge, etc. but nothing will save your dying religion.
@Phillip Hickman Which says absolutely nothing about its value or truth.
Many religions way older. In time all religions die.
Folks like this think that their "god's law" trumps "man's law" and therefore any action taken to "defend" their religion (i.e. stepping on any other perceived competing belief system) is perfectly hunky dory. Then if they are held accountable for their actions under the law, they get to pull the religious persecution card. In other words, not allowing them to persecute other religions is religious persecution.
@Tiny Whiny Then most of them nearly died and their god didn't help them. Many gave up their beliefs and moved on with actual life.
Many years later, offspring of these people, some theist, some deist, and some atheist, wrote a constitution and left the religions out of it for a damn good reason.
Now that I've actually gone back and listened to her opening, I'm just confused why her words would offend anyone. Reflecting quietly on the grandeur of existence and focusing on interconnectedness isn't contrary to any religious belief that i know of....
Fostering a greater sense of interconnectedness can lead to compassion and more peaceful interactions amd reactions. It's one of many meditation techniques. How very dare!
They only offended the insecure and simpleminded.
From what she said he has belittled her for her beliefs on more than just the one occasion we witnessed, underlining the fact he's a bully that had to be called out for it.
If someone is a pastor,preacher,deacon and or any other type of religious leader .. they should be negated from holding public office...
Agreed.
Christian Bully is constant and relentless against other beliefs.
Including his own :)
Because atheist have never bullied people?
@@1969cmp If calling out make belief on the spot bullying, then I am all for bullying stupidity when is said.
@@insanisstultitia3119 Then perhaps that was the thinking of the old bloke.
@@insanisstultitia3119 Well I believe you are a degenerate.
props to her!!!
I wish someone would have said "well bring your imaginary friend from the gallery up to the mike and say 'hi' .
Why was this cut off so abruptly? I would definitely like to know what followed.
God turned up and was laughed out of the room, but he was offered psychiatric treatment for his over-inflated ego and neediness
Last we heard he was going for a few beers with Lucifer.
Why'd you cut it off? Right during the good part...
Where's the rest of it?
yeah it cut off too soon
JemmetGK also would have liked more background - and the video of the invocation and protest
Because the p.c. tears would have been too much.
1969cmp your apathy is unbecoming of a Christian, should you be one. You should probably turn to your favorite mythological holy book to tell you how to care more about the emotions of other human beings. People without empathy deserve the same treatment as they give others.
@Dj Luminol Hahaha, love the end. As soon as the Satanists wanted to do the prayer they just decided to get rid of prayer completely..
Finally. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happyness.
Thank you, young lady patriot for standing up and speaking for all americans.
Whether we like it or not. Game on.....
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
― Epicurus
U won't get argument here.
Facts !!
"God works in mysterious ways" and that is supposed to cover everything.
@@rmsmith2396 more like "god doesn't work at all" IMHO... so why worship them?
We'll see who ultimately wins rhe argument!
I am so proud of you for standing up for your beliefs publicly, boldly and in such a dignified way. I join you in confronting bigotry and prejudice.
Good on you Yanks!, proud of ya!, about time the religious were made to show respect to everyone
But most of them do, its the others that give them a bad name. The bible tells the religious to love thy enemy is if he were there own brother
@@shawkyt3174 unfortunately these positions are filled with older and more intolerable people but in 20 years i hope most of them will be flushed out
Jordan Hitchens
Hi, are you ask how are religious people regularly not respectful
Jordan Hitchens
? Forget it. Lol moments past😂🙄
@Jordan Hitchenspositions against proper education
positions that give private religious schools taxpayer money
positions like the man shown in this video
I'd like to call God to the stand to answer some questions. Hello? Anyone? Helloooooooo!
I wish. . . could you imagine that trial. Making him stand trial for the genocide of billions of people, for the release of chemical weapons (disease) against all of humanity, for blatant war crimes, for all forms of bigotry. The most evil of evil concepts in history ends up being real and his "creation" realizes it and holds him accountable for it. That would be a dream come true if it were even a possibility. But alas, how do you hold a trial for something that we have no good reason to even think exists. =/ Oh well, I can dream.
@@mxwolfie1567 - it's a biological weapon, actually. Significantly worse than chemical weapons. Chemical weapons don't self-replicate...
I think a good case could also be made for God imprisoning and torturing everybody too.
The only person I'd feel sorry for is God's defense lawyer. He or she would be in a continual facepalm as Yahweh pretty much confessed and boasted on the stand and such, and also in that book...
Prosecution: So, you admit that you killed almost every human in this flood you speak of?
Yahweh: well of cour--
Defense: YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT! ObjectioN!KLJ!#:;ksajdfklds
Yahweh: Hmph! Of course I did, and I am most proud of Myself. I punished those evildoers very thoroughly!
Defense: /facepalm
Prosecution: I'd also like to submit Exhibit A, Genesis 6:9-9:17...
Defense: Damn it!
Yahweh: Hey, watch it!
@@mxwolfie1567 That should be a movie. I'd watch God get taken to God Court.
Hey Kraven, U remind me of that idiot cosmonaut in the early "60s" who circled the earth a few times in his Soyuz capsule & upon landing asked by an equally idiotic journalist if he saw God out there; and the BOZO of a cosmonaut replies: I didn't see God up there. He doesn't exist. I'd say U both have about the same number of neurons firing. About a half dozen.
@@comanche66100 was it actually not the 60s? Lol
I would love to hear the rest of it.
It's mind-blowing how normal Christianity is in America.
Really?! When you go to court you swear on a Bible to tell the truth and nothing but the truth so help you God.
This country was Founded by Christians
@@dianestafford6968 again, something I always found odd. I’ve given evidence in court as a boy and thought ‘who gives a shit about this book? That’s not the reason i tell the truth’. I’m almost fifty and I don’t know a single practicing Christian.
@@dianestafford6968 when has a christian ever told the truth?
@@dianestafford6968 It is extremely mind blowing that in a supposedly intelligent, civilised country that a court would believe that someone would tell a different story because they had put their had on a book. That is mind blowingly stupid. Yet that is the US. It also unbelievable that such an unconstitutional act is seen as normal but then we are talking about a country where almost half still believe in angels in the 21st century. Even in the Muslim countries in the Middle East it is easier to find people with enough education to know the difference between fact and fiction.
@@TheRogueEmpire when have you told the truth?
God should have been asked to stand and be recognized.
It was, he said God is everywhere.
I watched the video again and I did not see anyone there who claimed to be god.
@@bigtt3398 Well, he didn't say God was a 'someone,' but God is 'everywhere.' Maybe you need to watch it again and pay attention this time.
@@Kafei Then it is insane that he claims god is his guest.
Insane and arrogant.
@@dozog He's merely stating the obvious.
Why did this video cut her off mid-sentence? I wanted to hear her entire protest, and the reaction, but she was cut off, which is not only disrespectful, but reeks of censorship.
Carol Jo Martin if it helps, she went on to say, she couldnt sleep, her hair had started to fall out, the hostile attack upon her character caused her mother’s cat’s kitten’s cancer to reoccur, and her pet goldfish had died thru the ‘traowma of id ahhhhhllll’, and now she’s looking to the state to pwotect her from all these howwible howwible people who are saying such howwible howwible stuff. dear oh dear. may God please preserve us from the corrosive effects of this entitled leftie nonsense that is flooding our lands at present
hey! dude! Are you too stupid to grasp the overwhelming irony of using the word “entitled?” Because it’s pretty thick, even if you did understand how to use the word.
hey! dude! Thanks for being the person other people cite as evidence. The Earth is round. Have a good day.
@@heydude7568 Yep you just proved what you are.
I get the feeling that she was about to break down into tears and whoever posted the video wanted to save her that while still showing her stand up to that douche bag.
“Religion is like an erection….
Feels great to the one who possesses it, and to a willing recipient…
but if you’re NOT willing, it’s the LAST thing you want to see or have shoved down your throat”
God must have been so proud when his believer creation bullied a sensible one.
No need to feel ashamed at all. The parents should be proud she stood up for what she believes. The Christian had no class.
YES, YES, YES! YOU GO REP. SALMAN! WE ARE BEHIND YOU ALL THE WAY.
I am an atheist and I have no time for any religious people, Christians as well, who want to push their religion on me by changing laws that force me to listen to or abide by their religious faith. having said that, I must say that the Christian statements made by that man did none of that. My skin is thicker than that of this cry baby woman. That Christian guy didn't belittle her or her atheism in any way. All he did was state what he believed. I think what he believes is nonsense but he can say it as much as he wants as long as he doesn't belittle me for my beliefs or that woman beliefs.
Get a grip lady and save your energy for someone who deserves it.
Well what the hell did you expect of a Christian, tolerance?
Wow! Thank you for sharing this inspiring moment. It is time all of us stand up for our rights and support each other. We are not alone! The "None" are becoming a majority while membership in religious affiliation is shrinking.
No no =3 No religion =3
I have a personal relationship with the Flying Spaghetti Monster... =3
As a non monotheistic spiritual person I want you to know that atheists are not alone in their plight. I have been told that I worship Satan just because I choose a path that sees nature as the creator. I have scars on my body that are from people of monotheistic faiths attempting to carry out their "stoning of a witch". The strongest maxim of my path is that EVERYONE has the right to walk their own path, because all paths, walked correctly, lead to the same place. I enjoy listening to atheist folks talk about their thought process, and I listen to monotheistic folks as well, as long as they are the ones who are respectful about me having a different view then they do and don't constantly tell me about how "you are going to hell and taking your children with you." All ideologies are sacred to the person who holds them, and none should be looked down upon. But what people forget all too often is that your rights as a person end where another person's rights begin. Stay strong, be who YOU are, and remember you are just as worthy to speak as anyone else! 💕
@@louseveryann2181 Is that the marinara or pesto monster?
@Rob Lowe I doubt any atheists want to rule qua atheist. Liberal, conservative, whig, tory, sure.
@@dawnmidnightsun2521 Thank you for sharing your experience. Might I suggest you look for the polytheist pagans? They are a breath of fresh air. Not just Hindi, but Norse, Egyptian, Wicca etc.