Bodyweight to height ratio | Ask Rip #51

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  • čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
  • A very dense Starting Strength Seminar Q and A in which Rip and staff field questions about training vegans, programming considerations for intermediate women, making weight for high school sports, the use of orthotics for barbell training, and the optimal bodyweight to height ratio for powerlifting.
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  • @dylanl9532
    @dylanl9532 Před 7 lety +265

    I spotted Alan Thrall from untamed strength in the audience.

  • @askdhuwuw
    @askdhuwuw Před 7 lety +102

    His chair looks SUPER comfortable

    • @jordemort5359
      @jordemort5359 Před 3 lety +2

      Poor dude in the blue sitting in the metal folding chair 😂

    • @crankymcgee
      @crankymcgee Před 3 lety +1

      @@jordemort5359 lol I was gonna say...he's probably an intern or something. The dude in the baseball cap is probably Rippetoe's right-hand-man and gets the decently comfortable chair.

    • @Jordan-hz1wr
      @Jordan-hz1wr Před 3 lety +1

      MercuryNSJ Haha he’s the youngest of the bunch which means he gets the crappy chair

    • @billmiller2308
      @billmiller2308 Před 3 lety +1

      @@crankymcgee that’s Austin Baraki. Definitely not an intern. Check out Barbell Medicine to see more of him.

  • @Nokaut600
    @Nokaut600 Před 7 lety +207

    Rip's been hitting the doughnuts for sets across

  • @dawgsmycopilot
    @dawgsmycopilot Před 6 lety +57

    I so wish I'd been there for the fat client question! I'm that person ya'll are talking about. Starting Strength was a perfect program. I wasn't naturally athletic so I didn't feel like I could play a sport. I couldn't do a whole lot at that weight. (550) But I could stand there and pull heavy shit off the floor and I could push up heavy shit. So I did. And it forced me to eat correctly. I had to address all the shit that got me there if I wanted under that bar. So I lost weight and I've gotten stronger. I took notes, experimented with it. Did all the HIIT shit and cardio but it's just not as efficient as barbell training. I do activities. I garden, I swim some, I walk my little dogs. But I'm not doing the "exercise" that the women at the gym whose bodies haven't changed in six years are doing. They always ask me what I'm doing but when I tell them they mostly tell me reasons they can't do it.

    • @MxBell212
      @MxBell212 Před 4 lety +8

      While I don’t think all vegans have an eating disorder I developed one by becoming vegan I’m vegetarian now and I eat all of the eggs and mike and butter and ice cream and I’m fatter stronger and happier

    • @robertlevy4613
      @robertlevy4613 Před 4 lety +1

      dawgsmycopilot how are your results now?

  • @dawgsmycopilot
    @dawgsmycopilot Před 5 lety +42

    My fellow vegans bitching about Coach on here need to realize some things: 1) That ain't his area. He ain't there to teach you how to eat, he's there to teach you how to lift. If you need nutrition information go to another vegan who happens to also lift. Patrik Baboumian comes to mind. If you aren't vegan he has others on his forum who discuss nutrition- go check it out- there are even some vegans on the forum. 2) So what he thinks we have an eating disorder. It doesn't make his lifting information any less valuable. And if you are stupid enough to set aside good lifting advice because he doesn't agree with us on nutrition then fine but that's only hurting you. He's not here to coddle us and be open to our ideas. He doesn't owe us anything. But if you want to lift, he will help you. Listening to him will help you put weight on the bar. 3) He doesn't recommend everyone drink the gallon of milk, ya'll need to read the program. There's plenty of us who don't need to do that. He recommends the milk thing for underweight people, especially young men and people who have a hard time gaining weight. You do not have to drink the gallon of milk a day to do the program as it is written- it's a lifting program not a drinking program.

  • @MixedMartialHelp
    @MixedMartialHelp Před 7 lety +90

    11:30 I agree 100% that kids should not be cutting weight or dropping weight categories, and that anyone who makes them should go to jail. People chuckle after you say that, but I don't think it's funny, I honestly think Rip is right, and that it is a problem, not only in the USA.

    • @nathanielsoh7783
      @nathanielsoh7783 Před 6 lety +7

      The people we're talking about here is probably different. You're looking at kids who are probably putting in 8 - 16 hours a week training. I'm quite sure most of the kids here aren't overweight or obese.

    • @daxisperry7644
      @daxisperry7644 Před 4 lety +7

      Nothing wrong with losing weight. But people need to get off this philosophy of the number on the scale has to be lower. So many people I know who are not fat want to lose weight, not fat, just weight. I told him he should train strength because muscle mass and lifting weights would help him burn calories. "But if I gained muscle and lost fat, I might still go Up in weight." His response blew my mind.

    • @timlamb1156
      @timlamb1156 Před 3 měsíci

      Most people chuckle because the sport specific training of wrestling will cause you to drop weight, most states if not all has alpha to deal with weight cuts

  • @MrWillDart
    @MrWillDart Před 2 lety +5

    God bless coach Skip Johnston, he had us basically on starting strength in high school. I wish I was smart enough to continue it for the next 7 years. I’d be much stronger than I am now. But live and learn 5x5.

  • @matthewharris2971
    @matthewharris2971 Před 7 lety +33

    When you are sedentary and obese, barbell training IS cardio. Start with barbells. Supplement light cardio as needed to facilitate the barbell training. Once they are strong enough to handle serious cardio activities without their fat bodies destroying their joints in the process, increase cardio.

    • @Francesco-cj3oi
      @Francesco-cj3oi Před 4 lety +2

      I guess what they meant is that nutrition makes an obese person, or anyone actually, less fat. Resistance training will help if the person is able to perform the movements, but I quote what Mark said "The nutrition becomes the training" meaning that for an obese person the amount of will ti takes to adhere to a diet plan is already pretty hard, so adding strength training on top of that right from the start, might interfere with their adherence to the weight loss program

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian Před 4 lety +2

      Cardio is overrated. As long as you are strong and walk enough during the day, you should be fine.

  • @CyrillicTM
    @CyrillicTM Před 7 lety +58

    Alan Thrall! :D

  • @rickscheck5330
    @rickscheck5330 Před 5 lety +4

    17:00 Question 17:20 A: Pronated feet. Flat feet need support. Keep knees out. Orthotics can help support "medial arch".

  • @00Noontide
    @00Noontide Před 7 lety

    Fantastic content guys, thanks!!

  • @Sean-ly8fm
    @Sean-ly8fm Před 7 lety +7

    So what is a good general guideline for body weight on Starting Strength?
    Maybe wrongly but I thought the main topic would be that.

  • @scottmoyer3854
    @scottmoyer3854 Před 7 lety +3

    Best ask rip yet

  • @erickellye.k.3686
    @erickellye.k.3686 Před 6 lety +16

    I see Alan Thrall Train Untammmeedddddddd!!!

  • @ExtendedPachiderm
    @ExtendedPachiderm Před 7 lety +6

    I see you there, Alan Thrall. Don't think you can hide from me.

  • @BitsOfEternity
    @BitsOfEternity Před 4 lety +4

    Regarding the question about an obese person and how strength training can help them - and yes, this video is from 3 years ago, but the point is still relevant - I have to say that, when I first started working out, I learned enough by reading and watching videos to educate myself on the subjects, and I came to understand how diet matters, because, after a workout, I knew my muscles were going to grow, even just a little bit, because of the workout, and they needed good nutrition - they wanted good nutrition - and I had worked so hard to get them to the point where they were sore, that I wanted to reward them for working so hard, and the only way to properly reward them was to eat properly. I set my mind to understanding the relationship between the workout, with the intended result being to become stronger, and the diet that was required to do so, and it became a self fulfilling prophecy - I didn't want to eat garbage after I had worked my ass off in a heavy duty workout - my muscles were sore, and it was a good kind of sore, and I wanted to be able to do that again, and so I changed my eating habits. It really does work, if your client understands the purpose of 'soreness' of the muscles after a workout (during recovery, not due to injury) and the relationship between that soreness, and the gains from the workout, via that soreness, and the power that a good diet has over whether or not the gains will be what they could be.

  • @drycell_gaming
    @drycell_gaming Před 7 lety +13

    Allan thrall on deck

  • @idpagroup6525
    @idpagroup6525 Před 4 lety

    Very informative also entertaining !!!

  • @lim974
    @lim974 Před 7 lety +7

    Hey there. Could not you guys get microphones for Matt and Austin as well? It is sometimes hard to understand anything, especially when English is not your mother tongue.

  • @scottwidiculous
    @scottwidiculous Před 4 lety +8

    Can we get the poor dude on the left of Rip a better chair? His back must hurt

  • @l7521Opp
    @l7521Opp Před 5 lety +8

    Sorry bro, theres something called "Light Infantry" we walk everywhere.

  • @andrewhezekiahdaniel
    @andrewhezekiahdaniel Před 5 lety +20

    Lots of people mentioning Clarence who is an incredible athlete, but he is juiced to the gills, so his example isn't applicable here.

  • @eisenhorn7588
    @eisenhorn7588 Před 7 lety

    Regarding the discussion on warming up:
    I was under the impression that, if cold due to weather, doing a very short warmup (3-5 mins depending on the need) on a rowing machine was a good idea. I remember seeing it mentioned somewhere (either in the book or in one of the SS website articles, I'll have to find it again.) I have found it to be useful before starting my warmup sets, but is it the opinion of the coaches that this is not necessary?

    • @sleepingtube
      @sleepingtube Před 7 lety

      For very cold temps, yes. Otherwise, probably not necessary.

    • @pbmackatt
      @pbmackatt Před 6 lety +2

      Here is a quote from SS third edition-
      ..."Warm-ups serve two very important purposes. First, warm-ups actually make the soft tissue - the muscles and tendons, and the ligaments that comprise the joints - warmer. General warm-up exercises increase the temperature in the soft tissue and mobilize the synovial fluid in the joints. These exercises include walking fast or
      jogging, riding an exercise bike (a better method, due to the greater range of motion the knees are exposed to during the exercise, better preparing them for the squat), or using a rowing machine (the best method, due to its range of motion and the full involvement of the back and arms as well as the legs). Specific warm-ups, like the empty-bar sets of the barbell exercise itself, also serve to warm, mobilize, and stretch the specific tissues involved in that particular movement. This step is important for injury prevention, since it is more difficult to injure a warm body than a cold one....
      ...It is foolishness to neglect warm-ups. Many government school programs, in an attempt to implement a strength program without allotting sufficient time to do it, omit most of this crucial part of the workout. The coach in charge of a program that does this commits malpractice. Please heed the following rather strong statement: if your schedule does not allow time for proper warm-up, it does not allow time for training at all. It is better to omit strength training from your program than to suffer the inevitable injuries that will result from lack of warm- up. Yes, warm-ups are that critical."
      I guess things have changed since the book was printed.

  • @Bentley2
    @Bentley2 Před 2 měsíci

    When do you go from novice phase 1 to novice phase 2?

  • @patrickvanmeter2922
    @patrickvanmeter2922 Před 6 lety +7

    The only thing in this video I can agree with is no warmup and no cool down. Over 50 years of lifting and have never done either. At 76 years old, still don't.

  • @joshuaworsham120
    @joshuaworsham120 Před 7 lety +28

    I'll be consuming animal protein until I die, but some people are vegan for moral reasons, which I understand. We had a vegan Olympic weightlifter in the last games. it must be possible to be strong, just not optimal.

    • @sweetcheex
      @sweetcheex Před 7 lety +10

      I don't see how it's not optimal there's no science that's projected in what Ripp is saying. Having 2-500% BCAA profile and adequate protein a day in a caloric surplus is what I'm getting. Exactly how isn't that optimal?

    • @monkeyxpwner
      @monkeyxpwner Před 5 lety +7

      Yes it's very very possible to be jacked, strong and vegan. And if you think otherwise than honestly you don't have a grasp on nutrition. And no I'm not a vegan.

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian Před 4 lety

      @@sweetcheex Vegans have to supplement with lots of b vitamins and amino acids and protein in order to stay healthy.

  • @gettingstrongerfriend2738
    @gettingstrongerfriend2738 Před 7 lety +17

    Please set up mike so we can hear other people besides Rip. Although I come here for Rip, it would be nice to hear others input and questions not just the sage's answers. Rip the sound quality on a lot of these vids is poor.

  • @klevdavful
    @klevdavful Před 7 lety

    I'm telling you guys And I've never met him in person or talked with him on the phone but rip knows what he's taking about

  • @machomarmot5070
    @machomarmot5070 Před 7 lety +5

    I found this to be slightly informative and very entertaining! Lol

  • @ksurmacki
    @ksurmacki Před 7 lety +2

    I beg you Rip, make a new video about front squat

  • @zachlloyd9392
    @zachlloyd9392 Před 5 lety +10

    Actually really big people are surprisingly naturally strong once they lose the weight due to muscle mass gained from carrying thier weight. I have fat guy calves from weighting 315 for a few years, now at 260-280 My calves are huge for my weight and get comments from people on how to get big calves. I tell them get really big for a few years and BOOM! you're off team no-calves.

    • @phalanx1790
      @phalanx1790 Před 3 lety

      fat people have no more muscle mass than any other untrained person.

  • @RoadToDocByRoidAlex
    @RoadToDocByRoidAlex Před 7 lety +4

    12:44 the way he looks at Austin 😂😂

    • @Alex-lu3pn
      @Alex-lu3pn Před 4 lety

      His thinking:
      You look at 198, 181lbs men?
      Every man should weight at least 200, regardless of height.
      He actually said that weight doesn't depend on height in another video.

  • @sixonesevenauroch8683
    @sixonesevenauroch8683 Před 7 lety +11

    I have been vegan for 3 years and 7 months. I have been on strength training for about 6 months and can bench 318 lbs, deadlift 540 lbs and squat 415 lbs at 200 lbs (was 155 lbs when I started), still on linear progression, adding (to the training weight, not sure how much to the PRs) 4 lbs/week on the bench press, 10 lbs/week on the squat (recently turned to low bar, Rippetoe style squats, allowing for a newly discovered massive posterior chain usage) and 10lbs/week on the deadlift (recently entered a gym that allows chalk, allowing for my weak link to fade away). My diet consists exclusively of avocado, blackstrap molasses, sesame, linseed, pumpkin seeds, brown rice, beans, pasta, sweet potato and soy protein; supplemented with creatine and B12 vitamin, wich is the only nutrient you need to supplement for, as a tradeoff to the way foods are produced and processed nowadays.

  • @Jalfred92
    @Jalfred92 Před 7 lety +11

    I ate 5500kcals, 200g protein plant based fairly easily: I ate microwaved sweet potatoes with guacamole, curried lentils with coconut cream, protein shakes with bananas, mixed veg strifrys with chickpeas and wholewheat noodles. These are all quick and easy meals.

    • @Bradington
      @Bradington Před 5 lety +1

      Compared to what? I'm sure you can eat a lot of processed crap designed in a laboratory, but how is your gut health? What studies do you have that show the long term efficacy of such an unnatural diet?

    • @rohitmalyala8951
      @rohitmalyala8951 Před 5 lety +2

      Bradford Bradington none of that was lab food. Millions and millions of people live their entire lives as vegetarians. They’re perfectly fine-you can really get away with a lot when it comes to nutrition

    • @aymanlafaz
      @aymanlafaz Před 5 lety +1

      It took u 5500 kcal to achieve 200 g of protein yet in an omnivorous diet u can get 200 g of protein and not exceed 2500 kcals easy

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian Před 4 lety

      Carbs lead to diabetes.

  • @GrungeRockGod
    @GrungeRockGod Před 7 lety +45

    clarence intensifies

    • @gasbaroni
      @gasbaroni Před 6 lety +21

      First of all, he hasn't been vegan for that long, second of all, he's an athletic freak and a work horse, third, he's on steroids.

    • @Alex-lu3pn
      @Alex-lu3pn Před 4 lety +6

      Gotta check if his steroids are really vegan, cause they definitely aren't natural.

    • @gasbaroni
      @gasbaroni Před 4 lety +1

      @@vusaltahmazli5917 He actually adressed this in his previous videos and was very open about it.

  • @hjaltalinator
    @hjaltalinator Před 7 lety

    What do you think of the platz squat?

    • @johanhansson4574
      @johanhansson4574 Před 3 lety

      Haha butt in the ground for 30reps. Ripoff a toe will explode.

  • @Menello
    @Menello Před 7 lety

    Need to mic the other two dudes too! Sounded like they had good input too. Appreciated the video though.

  • @battledabully
    @battledabully Před 5 lety +1

    lav everyone up or us a boom mic bc this is hard to listen with different audio levels lol

  • @patrickdreesenreactions4553

    Peep Alan thrall in the second row on the far right

  • @verfugbarkite
    @verfugbarkite Před 7 lety +21

    Marks answers remind me of his programme, i.e one size fits all. There's no point asking him these kind of odd questions, that's not what he's about

  • @altemple5322
    @altemple5322 Před 7 lety

    need to have all staff micd up

  • @christianporter6842
    @christianporter6842 Před 5 lety

    45x5x2 to warm up and whiskey to cool down. Can we substitute with vodka?

  • @KRSapphire
    @KRSapphire Před 7 lety +153

    cue vegan outrage..

    • @benjaminx7822
      @benjaminx7822 Před 7 lety +30

      Did all this vegans just GOMAD?

    • @ezioauditore5616
      @ezioauditore5616 Před 7 lety +6

      I hate the fact that vegans like to preach and talk BS trying to change people life like those damn Amway People
      It's people choice to eat what they like, same as people who drink coke or not

    • @jokecukie
      @jokecukie Před 7 lety +17

      Johnz Bobz You don't have to kill to drink coke. If you don't think killing animals begs a moral question you are pretty ignorant. I am not a vegan, but your argument is weak and you sound dumb.

    • @brianeverill3537
      @brianeverill3537 Před 5 lety +2

      Cue 'outrage' at bigotry!! What's wrong with outrage at 'bigotry'

    • @Re3iRtH
      @Re3iRtH Před 5 lety +13

      "He's got an eating disorder"
      Says the guy with the 48" waist.

  • @MrWaitwhat1
    @MrWaitwhat1 Před 3 lety +3

    Lol i cut from 140 to 125 when i wrestled. That was a shit couple years

  • @147DegreesWest
    @147DegreesWest Před 3 lety

    Wow!! 8 sets of 3 is ok? Thank you!!!

  • @RustyIronloins
    @RustyIronloins Před 7 lety

    Who are the other panelists?

    • @LumberDrum
      @LumberDrum Před 5 lety

      Austin Baracki (Barbell Medicine)
      Matt Reynolds (Barbell Logic)

  • @StrongButAwkward
    @StrongButAwkward Před 7 lety +36

    Like, how hard is it to just say "eat lots of beans" in response to a question about protein for vegans?

    • @MixedMartialHelp
      @MixedMartialHelp Před 7 lety +12

      Because then on at least a sub-concious level he would have to admit it's not really fair to kill stuff for brotein, when you can just eat lots of beans. Far easier to pass it off as something else.

    • @MultiSoccerMan
      @MultiSoccerMan Před 5 lety +2

      @@ajasen jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-014-0064-5
      Here is a study comparing Pea Protein to Whey Protein for muscle building which concludes:
      "Since no difference was obtained between the two protein groups, vegetable pea proteins could be used as an alternative to Whey-based dietary products."
      The only protein source deficient in essential amino acids is gelatin which contains no tryptophan. Where do animals get the proteins that build their muscle tissues? Plants are the original source.

    • @JM-fo1te
      @JM-fo1te Před 5 lety +2

      Because he enjoys triggering people. Just laugh.

    • @c6q3a24
      @c6q3a24 Před 5 lety +6

      @@MultiSoccerMan
      Humans are not ruminant herbivores for fucks sake.
      We do not have the digestion system of ruminant herbivores.
      Try eating grass all day and see if you can grow the 400kg of lean muscle a cow can...

    • @stevenzwier8974
      @stevenzwier8974 Před 5 lety +4

      Rip is a training coach. Real old school. Not the guy to ask about vegan-specific nutrition. Calories are calories, protein is protein. It's not hard to figure out. Get a bag of pea protein and a bag of brown rice protein and mix 1:1 and you have an outstanding protein supplement with no carb, 1 g fat per serving, and no farts or acne. Peanut butter has 2,800 calories in a 1 lb jar, 3 quarters of which is fat. Rice, and black beans with a peanut butter sauce is filling and fuels gains. Don't ask the 60 year old overweight bbq fiend for vegan diet advice lmao

  • @IRONMAN79101
    @IRONMAN79101 Před 3 lety

    Legend

  • @idkisaidit
    @idkisaidit Před 3 lety +2

    Lol rip fielding questions is always so difficult to watch good lord

  • @roasticle
    @roasticle Před 7 lety

    need better mic'ing for these... like mics for each guy up front and a free mic for the people asking questions

  • @StrongButAwkward
    @StrongButAwkward Před 7 lety

    I feel like if your goal is to have fun as long as you have the time and money you can compete whenever the hell you want to.
    If you goal is to get strong enough to ever be competitive and actually win on a large stage, interrupting your training to compete too early and too often is going to stop you from ever getting really strong. It's a waste of your valuable training time to hop on a state stage ever 6 months from your first year of training on if you have any aspirations of being on a national team. Take the time to build a base of strength before you spend your time and money to test it.

  • @Jasonsprague1981
    @Jasonsprague1981 Před 7 lety +2

    Allan Thrall!

  • @brettpacker2779
    @brettpacker2779 Před 5 lety +1

    starting strength will get you to the plateau maybe a bit quicker but there's no magic

  • @michaelstuparich5473
    @michaelstuparich5473 Před 7 lety

    I wish they'd fix the sound issues on these videos. Can hear Rip fine and sometimes the questions, but everything else is a mess.

  • @rajinfootonchuriquen
    @rajinfootonchuriquen Před 7 lety

    I like the answer about stretching. Animal dont stretch, why do we stretch?

  • @jabberwock14
    @jabberwock14 Před 4 lety

    What did he say @ 21:10?

  • @Rhye_
    @Rhye_ Před 7 lety +153

    so he gets a legitimate training question about a vegan trainee, he says he not only calls him a psychiatric patient, he dismisses the person who asked the question, and also refuses to help.
    my biggest problem is that Austin Baraki started answering but he interrupted him just to dismiss the question, what the hell...

    • @MAGAMAN
      @MAGAMAN Před 7 lety +38

      Being vegan is stupid. I was stupid for almost 10 years and it was terrible for my health. There are things in Animal based food that your body NEEDS. This is why Vegans tend to be small and weak.

    • @disposablebeast3683
      @disposablebeast3683 Před 7 lety +27

      Yep. The recipe for being miserable is being a vegan. I know from experience. It was an eating disorder.

    • @VegetoStevieD
      @VegetoStevieD Před 7 lety +55

      Here's the problem. Mark has been asked most of these questions so many times that he needs to be able to draw a line, so he can stay within his realm of expertise.
      Here are some example questions that cause the same problem-
      "What do I do with an athlete that doesn't want to squat or deadlift?"
      "What do I do with an athlete that will only train once per month?"
      "What do I do with an athlete that wont eat meat or drink milk?"
      "What do I do with an athlete that doesn't make payments when I bill him/her?"
      Why should he bother answering those questions?
      Most of those questions are 'You're not doing the program". If you don't squat and deadlift, YNDTP. If you don't eat, YNDTP. If you don't train regularly, YNDTP.
      "Hi, Mark, what does a Starting Strength coach do with a client that refuses to do Starting Strength?"
      WTF, how can you possibly find a way to criticize Mark here?
      VEGANISM is NOT DOING THE PROGRAM. Mark is only responsible for Starting Strength, not some other bullshit.

    • @selfcritical
      @selfcritical Před 7 lety +7

      There's not reason you can't supplement protein/creatine and do the program. The sum total of changes will be "your food is going to be more expensive than it would otherwise be"

    • @benjaminx7822
      @benjaminx7822 Před 7 lety +7

      Khechari Im highly plant based and I cant do nothing but agree whit what you are saying
      edit:with

  • @tanisj2470
    @tanisj2470 Před 4 lety +1

    Holy crap it’s Alan thrall

  • @TheJmeier9
    @TheJmeier9 Před 5 lety +2

    how do I join this cult?

  • @fewhavestrength
    @fewhavestrength Před 6 lety

    Fucking awesome videos !

  • @james_games9684
    @james_games9684 Před 7 lety +48

    Yea rip may be fat but even in his 50s he is stronger than 90%+ of the kids crying about abs

    • @georgechristiansen6785
      @georgechristiansen6785 Před 7 lety +21

      I believe he is over 60, but the real comparison is how fat is he compared to his peers?
      He is not nearly as fat as MANY older folks and WAY stronger than almost all of them.

  • @dude157
    @dude157 Před 7 lety +2

    Best weight class is simple. Keep gaining size and strength till your deadlift leverages get screwed, then you know you have gone one weight class too far.

    • @Re3iRtH
      @Re3iRtH Před 5 lety

      So 5'11" in the 74kg weight class is too light? My first meet is in one week. Small state so looking to place.

    • @Alex-lu3pn
      @Alex-lu3pn Před 4 lety +1

      @@Re3iRtH that's far too skinny even for women

  • @dalebraithwaite6890
    @dalebraithwaite6890 Před 4 lety

    Are bbm bbl and ss the same company then?

    • @tombarry4777
      @tombarry4777 Před 3 lety +1

      No they had a falling out. Baraki and feigumbaum set up bbm.. thrall went with them too. I guess the egos were too big for one company. I'm more an ss fan

    • @dalebraithwaite6890
      @dalebraithwaite6890 Před 3 lety

      How about bbm?

    • @dalebraithwaite6890
      @dalebraithwaite6890 Před 3 lety

      What was the falling out?

    • @reggie7716
      @reggie7716 Před 3 lety

      @@dalebraithwaite6890 programming protocol was part of it, I believe political opinions might have been part as well. Barbell medicine put out a letter making a statement that kind of addressed the falling out.

  • @GrandmasterFerg
    @GrandmasterFerg Před 6 lety +3

    Pumpkin seed has some of the most luecine per gram of any food.

  • @gravitatieconstante8974
    @gravitatieconstante8974 Před 7 lety +31

    Eating disorder? 😂

  • @FirstLast-mq3mv
    @FirstLast-mq3mv Před 7 lety +17

    Shame that almost all of the discussion in this comment section is about the first couple of mins of a 20 minute video

  • @realSpook
    @realSpook Před 7 lety

    Holy shit that's alan thrall

  • @MrDmac9996
    @MrDmac9996 Před 4 lety

    maybe mike up the other two dudes as well!?!

  • @whatdaheck32
    @whatdaheck32 Před 5 lety

    I HAVE FOAMY MUSCLES!

  • @TheBlooRayChannel
    @TheBlooRayChannel Před 7 lety +44

    Mark Rippetoe is a very knowledgeable man, but he undoubtedly is also a narcissist.

    • @oiseo4498
      @oiseo4498 Před 7 lety +6

      TheBlooRayChannel wow you are soo right. The thousands of people that he has gotten strong and drastically improved quality of life(including me) must have all been accidents.

    • @TheBlooRayChannel
      @TheBlooRayChannel Před 7 lety +23

      You don't get the point I'm making, do you? I'm not vegan. But putting vegans down outright claiming it to be an eating disorder is a bit pathetic.

    • @HDloly
      @HDloly Před 6 lety +5

      Don't eat for guilt is a eating disorder. Vegans thing they are "eating clean", when there is no "clean living" in civilisation. They believe they are saving animals lives even livestock production only grow, and people who eat meat are "killers" when 90% of them never even saw a cow or chicken alive.
      Veganism "for the animals" is eating disorder. Call honey "bee vomit" is eating disorder. Eating only plants to raise awareness about animal production isn't the same as thing and say meat is poison or murder.

    • @willnill7946
      @willnill7946 Před 5 lety +2

      Vegan is a religion

  • @duncanshaheen6517
    @duncanshaheen6517 Před 3 lety

    When you spot Allen thrall

  • @hjaltalinator
    @hjaltalinator Před 7 lety

    To the first question about the vegan: does he have a problem recovering?

  • @teachingsofneville
    @teachingsofneville Před 7 lety +55

    Rip, I have a tremendous amount of respect for your knowledge of human physiology, lifting, and programming, and I've learned a great deal from you.
    To declare that eating a plant-based/vegan diet is an eating disorder....not only is that simply untrue, but its incredibly inappropriate, insensitive, and unprofessional.
    Dr. B.... As an MD, I KNOW you don't agree with Rip on this one. It's clear that you were going to attempt to actually answer the question with a dose of value before Mark completely disregarded a serious, legitimate question being asked by someone who was genuinely looking to help her client.
    There are FAR more vegans than you realize following Starting Strength, and I promise the number will continue to grow.
    I sincerely hope that Dr. B and the other medical professionals in the SS community can find it within them to bring some real value to people following a plant-based diet.
    Or, at the very least, put a stop to the sort of ludicrous and ignorant statements from Mark at the beginning of this video.

    • @jk3639
      @jk3639 Před 6 lety +8

      Moving Millennials no. Veganism for retards

    • @ghollisjr
      @ghollisjr Před 6 lety +6

      Moving Millennials
      What is an eating disorder? If you have a physical flaw with your jaw, teeth, tongue, etc. that would get in the way of eating, would that be an eating disorder? As far as I've seen the term used, it applies to psychological reasons for failing to eat a healthy diet in a healthy way.
      Vegans eliminate meat and all animal products from their diets. Some people think this can be done in a healthy way, and others disagree. It comes down to the definition of a healthy diet. Is it healthy to consume industrial products to replace missing vitamins from your diet which would have been supplied by animal products?
      Rip could make a very strong case for his claim that veganism is an eating disorder if he did so from the perspective of attacking the motivations of most vegans. Are you a vegan because you think animal products are bad for you? Then you're demonstrably wrong, and your refusal to accept your mistake could constitute a delusion and lead to the diagnosis of an eating disorder, just as how anorexic people have delusions about their appearance. Are you a vegan because you believe it is morally wrong to use animals? This would fall closer to religious dogma than psychological problems, but depending on the level of delusion involved in this conclusion, it could also be evidence of an eating disorder.
      The medical establishment is in the business of being the medical establishment. Psychology is especially prone to quackery followed by sweeping it under the rug later, introducing more quackery, etc. I am concerned about people who seek out radical ideologies and ethical systems such as veganism in general, simply because it is typically a sign of unsolved personal issues that are being projected on the rest of the world instead of being addressed as part of individuation.

    • @gwarf5555
      @gwarf5555 Před 6 lety +4

      Vegans have an eating disorder. Their world view doesn't make sense. They are a waste of time.

    • @shanecorrigan8524
      @shanecorrigan8524 Před 6 lety +1

      I think he meant the specific case of that person

    • @0Arman0
      @0Arman0 Před 6 lety +1

      i agree with you millenial he needs to approach this with the same logic and thoughtfulness that he approaches everything else and he fell short

  • @grahamstephenson1505
    @grahamstephenson1505 Před 7 lety

    Does he have the the same attitude towards vegetarians too? Anybody know?

    • @filipposlioukas2892
      @filipposlioukas2892 Před 6 lety +1

      Graham Stephenson are you asking so that you have the right to criticise him? Lol

  • @Delabeled
    @Delabeled Před 4 lety

    Rip is the best. He gives no shits about peoples feelings. He isn't here to make you feel emotionally safe. He is here to make you strong. He's blunt but he knows his stuff.

  • @anarchic_ramblings
    @anarchic_ramblings Před 2 lety

    The strongest men in the world DO have the most muscle mass. Brian Shaw is over 200 kg!

  • @jojojlc7070
    @jojojlc7070 Před 6 lety

    Are these guys fitness youtubers? I can see Alan Thrall or atleast a look-alike on the side, beside the red poster.

  • @robbyx6846
    @robbyx6846 Před 11 měsíci

    Calling a vegan having a eating disorder when mark has a protruding gut and multiple medical procedures like his diet is so much superior

  • @laynenortonslawyer5791
    @laynenortonslawyer5791 Před 6 lety +1

    Next time anyone has a diet and nutrition question for Rip I want you to look at his gut in these videos and ask youself, should I really be listening to his advice?

  • @poomuncherful
    @poomuncherful Před 7 lety +2

    Eating disorder my ass

  • @jasonblahasfilthyfoot8427

    No one in that room looks like they lift.

  • @MrDtempest
    @MrDtempest Před 7 lety +9

    Not sure why Rip doesn't respond to reasonable questions in a reasonable way. Bill Pearl is a vegetarian - he seems to have done OK. Rip is hurting his Starting Strength coaches... He is starting strength, and when he pontificates on things that he's not an expert in - he only sounds like an ignoramus, which hurts SS coaches.

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666 Před 5 lety +5

      Pearl became a vegetarian at age 39 which means for 39 years he ate and trained with a meat diet. That means I could train as a powerlifter for 20 years, break a bunch of records, switch to being a vegan and now I'd be the vegan powerlifter that broke a bunch of records? C'mon now.

    • @KamSwope
      @KamSwope Před 4 lety

      Goodbye snowflake go cry somewhere else fuckin buffoon

    • @michaels7159
      @michaels7159 Před 2 lety

      @@KamSwope LMAO you're clearly the snowflake. Look how triggered you got over a critique of Rippetoe's nonsense. Cry harder.

    • @michaels7159
      @michaels7159 Před 2 lety

      @@ChernobylAudio666 Clarence Kennedy has been vegan for years and can outlift everybody in that room. And he looks way better than all of them. Vegan diets are compatible with strength training. Rippetoe is wrong all the time.

  • @Jmack7861
    @Jmack7861 Před 4 lety +3

    I love how at IPF worlds almost none of the 181 lifters are under like 5”10’ lmao

    • @murozman
      @murozman Před 3 lety

      That's quite surprising. I didn't know that. Almost all record holders seem to be short little guys for their weight.

    • @michaels7159
      @michaels7159 Před 2 lety

      You mean the opposite right? Your comments is stating that they're all 5'10" or taller.

    • @averagejoe5016
      @averagejoe5016 Před 2 lety

      Could be wrong but I’m pretty sure they cut weight. So 181ers aren’t really 181

  • @temperedwell6295
    @temperedwell6295 Před 6 lety +2

    Rippetoe is a primitive blockhead. His entire approach way oversimplifies the most complex machine in the world-- the human body.

  • @emailjwr
    @emailjwr Před 6 lety +4

    Welp, here we have proof that Rip is not an evidence-based thinker. Feelsbadman.

  • @JohnDoe-bx1bw
    @JohnDoe-bx1bw Před 7 lety +1

    Everyone's so crazy about the veganism point that no one seems to care about stretching/mobility work bs. Of course you don't need it if you don't plan on staying actually healthy and injure-free.

  • @shilohsanders5475
    @shilohsanders5475 Před rokem +2

    The vegan question really isn’t a difficult one. Put him on a vegan protein powder and have him blend in a big scoop of peanut or almond butter in twice a day, and make sure he has at least a cup and a half of beans or lentils with lunch and dinner every day and he’ll get results 80-90% as fast as the people without an “eating disorder”.

  • @profitfever
    @profitfever Před 4 lety

    Dont get me wrong Veganism isn't something im a fan of. But RIP was rude about that at the start. He could have given a more compationate answer. Also give the dr a microphone for gods sake.

  • @PlugThePull
    @PlugThePull Před 6 lety +5

    INB4: "Mark Rippetoe worst of the fitness industry" hahahaha

  • @neemshunter6951
    @neemshunter6951 Před 7 lety

    So post workout stretching's a waste of time?

  • @HammerBlow500
    @HammerBlow500 Před 7 lety +2

    Holy crap, Austin's legs look like tree trunks! 💪🏼

  • @NicoDevs1998
    @NicoDevs1998 Před 4 lety +2

    203 people are vegans

  • @MrTrenttness
    @MrTrenttness Před 7 lety

    I Like Rip and have two of his books which really set me right with weight training. Having said that, I wish he'ld loose weight. The labored breathing while sitting is too much.

    • @tezwoacz
      @tezwoacz Před 7 lety

      at his age you would not give a fuck, he is basicly retired

    • @ChernobylAudio666
      @ChernobylAudio666 Před 7 lety +1

      He's 60 and still lifts more than you. What's your point? Why is everybody so damn concerned about the choices he makes? Worry about your own back yard.

    • @MrTrenttness
      @MrTrenttness Před 7 lety

      You two guys think his health is a good reflection of the strength sports? I don't. And he doesn't get a free pass on being two or three years away from a major heart attack while representing strength sports any more than anyone else. This an opinion but it's an opinion shared by veterans of fitness, body building, has well has strength sports. And just has importantly alot of young men looking in at these sports and seeing the broken bodies of out of shape gurus wonder what use is this knowledge. I see becoming strong has part of a deeper search for value, porpoise, and meaning in a person's life has well has embracing masculinity and control over yourself. Has a culture we should embrace fitness, which includes strength, without makeing strength the end all result. Could a person say defending Ripatoe's weight is part of the fat acceptance movment? Yeah, and that's garbage.

  • @JergenSplergen
    @JergenSplergen Před 5 lety +3

    The really important thing he said about veganism was "it's not compatible with strength training." That's the answer to all the veganism questions.

    • @dibdap2373
      @dibdap2373 Před 4 lety

      @@simonadventures3727 how exactly is it cleansing?

  • @jasonswanson5770
    @jasonswanson5770 Před 7 lety +22

    Cool. Now try answering a single question without being completely condescending. Nothing like pupilage from an instructor who treats you like your stupid.

  • @ladev91
    @ladev91 Před 6 lety +1

    JAIL TIME! 5 YEARS MIN!!!

  • @mactimo333
    @mactimo333 Před 6 lety

    is it so hard to tell the other 2 guys to grab a microphone before speaking otherwise don't record it and put it on youtube

  • @kozz1984
    @kozz1984 Před 7 lety +3

    109 triggered vegans lol

  • @daiserob251
    @daiserob251 Před 6 lety +15

    It's unfortunate that this guy keeps teaching outside of his scope. I love his message when it comes to strength but he's becoming more and more of a turn off when he shoots his mouth off about things he knows little about.

  • @Jmack7861
    @Jmack7861 Před 4 lety +1

    If you’re under 200 lbs you’re a woman doesn’t matter height