Decline of the Liberal Global Order | Prof. Doug Stokes
Vložit
- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- In this Direct Interview, John speaks with Doug Stokes, Professor of International Security and Strategy at the University of Exeter. As the liberal global order is further eroded by identity politics and woke ideology, Professor Stokes and John consider the impacts of these progressive movements and a way forward. They seek sources of hope for a divided West and discuss how we can properly equip our young people to wrestle with the many contentious issues they are facing.
Doug Stokes is Professor of International Security and Strategy in the Department of Politics at the University of Exeter. He specialises in US foreign policy, international security and debates on grand strategy. Professor Stokes has published a number of books, journal articles and book chapters in these areas including his most recent books; Global Energy Security and American Hegemony, (Johns Hopkins, 2011) US Foreign Policy (Oxford University Press, 2018).
His major developed research focus is on the durability of the US led liberal international order and the ways in which great powers can use military power to shape international relations in ways they deem desirable. This question becomes especially interesting in the context of economic power shifting to East Asia, the crisis of Western strategic agency and complex forms of global interdependence in a world of many states.
#GlobalOrder #DougStokes #Progressivism
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
00:00 Intro
00:20 Introducing Professor Doug Stokes
01:38 Opening remarks
02:51 Living and working in Bosnia
08:32 The nature of our international order
16:24 Can we maintain a liberal global order?
21:08 Does the divided West still hold a bigger vision?
27:02 The misery of devastating revolutions
37:26 Flaws in the new Woke 'religion'
43:13 Progressives ignore evidence and reason
51:15 Parallels between WWII and the growing threat of China
59:47 Does AUKUS mark a significant turning point?
01:07:30 Equipping young people for the future
01:15:53 Conclusion
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Conversations feature John Anderson, former Deputy Prime Minister of Australia, interviewing the world's foremost thought leaders about today's pressing social, cultural and political issues.
John believes proper, robust dialogue is necessary if we are to maintain our social strength and cohesion. As he puts it; "You cannot get good public policy out of a bad public debate."
If you value this discussion and want to see more like it, make sure you subscribe to the channel here: / @johnandersonconversat...
And stay right up to date with all the conversations by subscribing to the newsletter here: johnanderson.net.au/contact/
Follow John on Twitter: / johnandersonao
Follow John on Facebook: / johnandersonao
Support the channel: johnanderson.net.au/support/
Website: johnanderson.net.au/
Podcast: johnanderson.net.au/podcasts/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Follow Doug on Twitter: @profdws
Visit Doug on Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/doug-stok...
![[柴犬ASMR]曼玉Manyu&小白Bai 毛发护理Spa asmr](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/0TsXQ7z2Dh4/mqdefault.jpg)
A great discussion. It's heartening to know there are people like Doug Stokes in our rotten university system in the UK; I'll send this to my daughter who is an Oxford D.Phil working in university administration who has to keep her conservative beliefs under wraps. This isn't just the best podcast in Australia, it's competing for the title of Best in the World. Thank you, John.
Is cancel culture in student circles prevalent in the uk as well ? I thought it was just in the US?
I am asking as a plan to study in oxford as well ! It would be helpful if you could tell me !
@@NG-dc2pk I am not a British academic but I am certain cancel culture is every bit as alive and well in Oxford as any college in America. They notably stripped Jordan Peterson of honorary status and retracted a visiting scholar position previously offered to him on cancel culture or relatedly idiotic grounds. To keep up on cancel culture in the UK, I highly recommend the triggernometry podcast.
Prof Stokes is a former Prof of mine at Exeter. A rock solid guy and one of the best teachers I ever had. He has a mega brain and is also very plugged into a lot of political stuff in the UK. A real behind the scenes guy if rumours are true. When this woke madness ends, it's people like Doug and a handful of others who led the charge from the trenches. A warrior and yes I am a fan! 🙂
@@NG-dc2pk There is a fight back going on. See this recent Jordan Peterson podcast with Arif Ahmed and James Orr from Cambridge. czcams.com/video/9wjw3udMNBc/video.html
he’s my dad
I have found your conversations with so many different people to so apt and useful. Many thanks! As a Nigerian, I am struck by the apparent blindness of the cultural and political elites to the fundamental issues facing the West and the key contribution that the Christian tradition had in the rise to prominence of the West.
@@tomasina10 Can you please tell me what these people you wanted to speak with were?
It's all planned and predetermined. They're waiting for communist China to make their move, and meanwhile they're weakening Western civilization and economies as much as possible. America now is building a rainbow military, can you believe such a thing!?! The UK army has been reduced and apparently is at the beck and call of the EU. Australia, NZ, Canada and the EU have already become westernised authoritarian dictatorships, bought up by CCP money. Doctors, scientists and humanitarians are paralysed by threats of losing funding and licences. But as more and more 'conspiracy theorists' wake up to it, we're working on it. 🤩👍 They can't win!
PS The Church has to get over its fear of persecution in order to fight atheism and secularism, because otherwise it stands for nothing.
I do hope that this man can keep his job in a UK university.
the big question is how they managed to scare everyone in the universities away from criticising what was patently weak intellectual postmodern theory.
I studied French, thus saw Foucault very early (mid 90s) and how epistemological dangerous he was.
@@richardouvrier3078 - Did you write any critiques of Foucault?
he’s my dad
These days, it is cathartic to listen to a honest thoughtful discussion like this.
Knew instantly this would be great. Those life-threatening moments are so immensely valuable. The entire planet is under extreme stress right now as the struggle of the corporatocracy - governments, corporations, institutions interlinked - threaten to dismantle all the things we find worthy in our lives. This kind of sense-making is extremely important.
And those who expected lightning and thunder
Are disappointed.
And those who expected signs and archangels’ trumps
Do not believe it is happening now.
As long as the sun and the moon are above,
As long as the bumblebee visits a rose,
As long as rosy infants are born
No one believes it is happening now.
Only a white-haired old man, who would be a prophet
Yet is not a prophet, for he’s much too busy,
Repeats while he binds his tomatoes:
There will be no other end of the world,
There will be no other end of the world.
- Czesław Miłosz
Doug Stokes. Top man. I had never heard of him until now. Great fan of John Anderson for a few years now, so that’s the reason I watched.
Really enjoyed this talk. Enlightening to say the least. These kind of tête-à-tête are the things that layman needs. Quite brilliant 👏👏👏
I will listen to this again and again. It’s so extremely helpful. Bless you both.
Stokes himself is a case showing that wokeism has not become monolithic. Yes, he is in a minority, and it is a small minority in the roughly 50% of the university where wokeism has run riot, but because sensible, more traditional people speak reasonably for the most part it is very important that this minority is willing to speak up when necessary. In addition to the tiny minority who speak out, I suspect there is another minority where the members keep their mouths shut simply in order to keep their jobs.
Good to see more people like Prof Doug Stokes stepping into the limelight.
Superb discussion.
Living in Northern Ireland I pray the efforts of these modern heroes to protect in law that which was most fundamental to education within these islands...God bless you both in the cultural struggle ahead, 🙏💜
Listening to John Anderson is never a waste of time. Top notch analysis and commentary.
These discussions are wonderful, but I think we now have enough understanding of what is happening to Western Civilization. It is time to formulate methodologies to turn around the conversation and begin to restore a stronger Western Ideology that is inoculated against these "wrong" philosophies. How can we move away from analysis to synthesis?
Would heartily agree, an in depth focus on practical steps for those who are on board is overdue. Sadly so many are just now waking up to the starkness of our situation. Shalom
Fantastic guest. I hadn’t heard of him before but he definitely is a very important voice these days. Thank you for bringing him on.
Thank you John for pointing that out, “we all love to hate the Americans until there is a crisis then where are the Americans”. Western Europe is particularly guilty of this. Their defense in the post war era was subsidized by the US which allowed them to build large social welfare systems. If and when the US stops defense support it will be very interesting indeed to watch Western Europe fill the gap.
No doubt.
@Mephisto von Döbelstein MUCH more complex than that. Small, ethnically and culturally homogeneous, highly educated society with tight immigration controls. Also not a NATO member country.
Much of American defence spending is welfarism and Europeans owe no gratitude for that. You also seem to be unaware of how large European defence forces were after WW2 so the idea that Europeans were just spending on butter and not guns is sloppy ignorance. One also has to question the efficacy of American guarantess when they lose every war they fight so I'm not sure that there's much of a gap to be filled.
Europe will freeze this winter.
@Mephisto von Döbelstein and a civilized populace.
Thank you so much for this conversation with Doug Stokes.
I agree ☝️ strongly with the professor. Woke-ism is definitely a religion. I find this to be very much the case when I debate those who are woke.
People who did not reason their way into their position can not be reasoned out of it. Don’t waste your time arguing with them. It’s like arguing with a woke textbook. Hard times will pull them out of being woke. Nothing else.
Dear John gotta say...my respect for you has been greatly enhanced since listening to your utube presentations. Keep it up .We Australians really need your intelligent and creativity.
Nowadays, Australia is experiencing an unprecedented situation.....
They were disarmed first
@@LeeGee True!
@@LeeGee : I was not disarmed nor do I know anyone who has been. Can you cite anyone who has been disarmed ?
Oh, it's precedented
@@buildmotosykletist1987 pretty widely reported that 700,000 guns were confiscated in the 1990s. Thats alot of people.
The presentation from 27 to 37 is gold.
This is not about America this time but about the international Corporatocracy. The US is mired like the kleptocrats in power around the planet in a spirit of competition without cooperation. We’re all in a deep, twisting rabbit hole of Lewis Carroll complexity. Being grounded in basic, grounded human morality will either win or lose. When the corporate/government technofascists win we the people lose.
Agree, now to find a common path we can unite behind?
Most odd sense of, this conversation needs a great deal of digestion and yet.... I understand and experience a pervasive sense of direction not previously conscience/conscious Thank you both.
Thankyou to both John Anderson and Doug Stokes,
New to CZcams - started exploring seriously in last 6 months. Doug hit the nail on the head so many times I just had to post a comment.
Thankyou both, for enabling me to listen to your discussion. I thought I was beginning to imagine this was all happening in my own head. There are very good discussions going on in CZcams at the moment but this really captures the discourse we are in now politically. I am not an intellectual but was so pleased someone 'out there' was seeing this as I was.
Some really good questions here which really helped me get a sense of reality back.
In Australia you see this with the disproportional elevation of Aboriginal culture. Now we are expected to believe (and kids are being taught) that the aboriginal world was a highly sophisticated society. A "civilisation." It was not. The aboriginals had only fire and stone tools, a primordial system of law, no written history, no written language, and no nation states. The were very much prehistoric, stone-age tribes of hunter-gatherers who lived in caves and bark huts, wore animals skins and hunted with wooden spears and clubs. The cognitive dissonance demands this culture was on par with the British Empire, and deserve equal (if not more) reverence and respect as the Egyptians, Babylonians, Aztecs or Huron. Yes aboriginal culture should be studied and remembered, but elevated as aspirational? It is embracing barbarism and entropy.
I’m reading a book at the moment called 'Disciplined minds' by Jeff Schmidt (written over 20 years ago) which makes perfect sense of the ineffectual resistance put up to these daft ideas by so called Professionals. He argues as a professional it’s not that they have higher technical skills or what-have-you it’s that they are sensitive to their employers wishes and to the correct ideology and where they find ideological error in their subordinates they stamp it out.
A very thoughtful conversation. Makes me think that the UK has fallen over itself to make itself into a country that belongs equally to every single immigrant that chooses to come here for the life we offer. This multiculturalism has failed to the extent that, eg Muslims think the UK is theirs and have instituted Sharia law here with adherents rejecting our common law, etc. I suggest that what we need in order to sort this societal disintegration out is to make ourselves back into ENGLAND, according to our values, principles, common law, traditions and norms. (Given that Scotland, Wales and NI seem to think they no longer belong to this kingdom). When migrants come here to reside, they need to take on those values, until they ARE English. If they don't want to, they move on. After all, at the family level, as each child arrives, whether naturally or by adoption, the family dynamic might adjust, but every child carries the family name. They live by the family standards; we don't become a different family or take on the characteristics of the abusive family from which an adopted child has fled. Perhaps it's time to take off the blinkers of sjws and brainwashed globalist Marxists and reveal our own identity?
That's what we did in the USA from day one. We have long welcomed people from all over the world, but we have always expected them to become Americans.
"Australia's leading podcast"--fitting
A necessary discussion for us all in which to engage.
As an American who's gone through a public school and our university system, it is very easy to conclude the propaganda within public, and often private institutions of "learning" are a major reason for the divisions we see and the lack of critical thinking that is crucial for any free, sovereign citizen.
First rate discussion. Thank you both for sharing your ideas.
Once again, John, an excellent presentation. A very erudite guest. Seems to closely align with the work of Bella d'Abrera at the IPA also The Ramsay Institute. The debate is alive
God bless. Keep it going. Thank you.
Thank you John Anderson for sharing this vital conversation with your Utube audience. Can I ask you to invite Prof Dennis Hayes (The Dangerous Rise of Therapeutic Education) to discuss current education theories in schools throughout the Anglosphere which bears a direct relationship to the zeitgeist now exhibited by our Universities.
The scariest thing for me to hear is when Doug Stokes says there is "no pushback" against woke, "progressive" ideas. I expect Australia's political leaders to ENGAGE what is so obviously a destructive ideology with reasoned debate. The "media" is also infiltrated by university graduates who have been poisoned, so not only do we have indoctrinated teachers working with kids, but so-called journalists engage in "contextualising" rather than reporting.
Anyway, I love the discussion and insight here. Thank you!
Excellent discussion gentlemen, Thank you.
One of the Most Important talks ever
Australia has fallen
Critical theory is pedestrian intellectual dishonesty. Easily despised, frequently employed.
Far out Johnno, I'm 1minute 52seconds in and realise I should come here more often. I should probably delete all the other channels except for yours and Jordan Peterson's. You both have the ability to talk about idea's and things without getting me angry. Infact, I find you both immediately calming upon hearing your voices. Cheers for that. Everything else drives me up the wall these days in one way or the other (except for Pauline's new comic series obviously) You're a salve of the same level as Jordan when I take the time to listen to you.
Surely as the woke graduate from universities and take jobs in areas of influence, they will carry their wokism into those realms.
"If we forget our common humanity" this is precisely what stood out to me as I was reading in the Old testament portion of the Bible this morning, the simplicity of an easily accomplished arrangement instituted and outlined by God and spoken of by Him as essential to our quality of life, and yet if we neglect (He warns us not to forget) to make these things a priority our very existence rapidly crumbles.
Maybe young working class men choose not to go to university because they have enough sense not to waste time and money learning nothing that will benefit them.
Wonderful comment about religious aspect of wokeism.
Excellent, thank you for this interview
It’s sad we have to go to go to other platforms to see podcasts like this. Mainstream media won’t go near any discussions of this sort. That’s the problem.
Whilst I agree with much of what was discussed, I just can't agree Russia is this ever looming threat to the West.
Spot on
Perhaps if you view Russia as an influencer and a troublemaker?
Russia is a threat at least through playing parts, intentionally and unintentionally, in helping "the West" on the path of destabilization. Though the main motor there is the ignorance and stupidity of EU politics, which is growing to epic proportions.
@@juricakonsec2337 How could any Russian take the EU seriously? Add to that the rubbish Clinton and her crew peddled after the 2016 election and I can well understand the US wouldn't be on the xmas card list
It is worrying that so many countries seem to believe that they do not need to take care of their own defence and expect the US to bear the costs both financially and in manpower. It must be evident that the US is no longer in a position to defend the rest of the world
The new university in Austin is doomed to go the way of all the rest. Let us not forget that those who have joined forces in Austin are the very same professors and so-called influencers who created (in part) the mess of the universities they come from. Bret and Heather Weinstein are a perfect example. They worked at Evergreen in Oregon for decades and were part of the progressive mood in education - a collaboration between professor and student - instead of being part of passing on the wisdom of the ages to these young people - and then the whole thing blew up. Give students a torch and they will burn something down. Return to Faith, Family, and teaching again. Austin is just another experiment.
When you build a wall around your beliefs how does one convert? While I find Heather and Brett Weinstein a bit hippy dippy on some subjects, it is that very diversity of thought that brings innovation sometimes and food for thought to test your ideas against. I still think their greatest contribution has been the well detailed and documented (Mike Nayna YT) experience up close and on camera at Evergreen. The fact that 2x disciples, with decades of loyal service to progressive leftist causes got cancelled, threatened and thrown out got red pilled and revealed all should be watched by every citizen in the West 13 years and up.
A picture tells a thousand words.
Fantastic guest
Doug , John & Plenty of others have " common sense " , I am reminded of a quote " There are those who THINK they are good , and those who ARE good " .
What is occurring in Australia's NWT...
John , Always like your podcasts , very clear & thought provoking . I also like your choice of Interviewee's . Keep up the good work & stay safe in a troubled world , including to those who speak out . Hey i agree with Doug , Living in Hackney too i can agree with it being rough .
hitch once more, thanks for a clear & direct discussion
Love these thoughtful podcasts.
Outstanding. Unfortunately, these voices are faint ripples against the tsunami. And our children and future generations will pay the price for civilization lost.
Greatly appreciate the John Anderson podcast...conversations of reason, sanity and intelligence from a country I loved visiting three years ago. Best wishes from the US. Maybe the world needs to "enjoy" Chinese hegemony for the next 50/100 years?
The CCP is collapsing within quite rapidly. Sadly once again the West will be the ones to help the Chinese people rebuild.
@@buildmotosykletist1987 ?? Evidence for collapse?
Maybe when the Chinese property bubble (believe me the property bubble to end all property bubbles) collapses, then the Chinese economy collapses, then the people will push the ccp out of control and install an even more brutal dictator demagogue.
@@nonfictionone : Even state media are reporting it. It's too obvious to hide.
I am woke to the insanity of woke. Hopefully this will be the natural cure.
Woke is indicator of Left Communist Socialist tribal grouping. Post structuralism is new to me..
Truth is servant to the Tribal Group not People servant to Truth....
Deconstruction and poststructuralism share the goals as Marxism but denounce the rational aspect of classical Marxism. It was marxists themselves, or the Neo-Marxists, who shifted the side of the revolution from the working class to the oppressed in terms of identity politics -race and gender -, which was then wedded to the ideas of post-truth and the denial of objectivity, so that all truth and all facts correspond to a particular view of the world where none no one view assert itself over another, nor can a worldview be verified outside of subjective, 'lived experience.' Thus the importance of power: these movements rely on, and cultivate, power in order to overtake by 'deconstruction' the Western world.
Overtake it to assert what exactly?
@@joanofarc33 The Utopia they think will automatically arise once all the existing power imbalances have been removed.
Great comment, thank you
Most Interesting thank you! x
Very good points early on in the interview already:
- it really matters who wins the war (in terms of future prestige and influence)
- the fragility of the structure of a functioning society - like the ones in Western countries. And the difficulty to create a new functioning structure as good and as functioning as the one before.
This place(comments)is being throttled down in Tennessee
What is that, "throttled down"??
Let’s not get carried away by ideas of U.S. altruism post WWII; there was enormous self interest in U.S. support for Europe and Japan
Wait you're saying that the corporatists and the statists who worship collective identity politics are against fascism? On the contrary.
I interpreted it as them paying lip service.
@@jeffbinder3085 Yes, they are thinking of their bottom line.
It is necessary to distinguish between those who worship it and those who think they will just use it as a tool for their PR and possibly to try to steer towards changes that would suite them, perhaps even to create chaos they think they would be able to control.
Some of the former wouldn't object if they (foolishly) think they would be in grace with the ideologists.
The latter probably wouldn't like loss of their freedoms and liberties.
Great point that the Bosnian conflict was identity politics par excelence
Great discussion and good to hear some push back on woke politics, which is really a neo racist ideology based on racial essentialism.
For an eye opening book on this subject, see John McWhorter’s book: Woke Racism - How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America.
John, this is one of the few Australian podcasts i can take seriously. Who do you listen to?
I suggest you interview Yoram Hazony, particularly about what he calls the Liberal Construction, in contrast to the Protestant Construction (personally I think construction is the wrong word for the latter).
He makes the argument that John Locke’s Second Treatise is really the original manifesto, as it were, for the Liberal Construction, which is essentially based in the idolatry of consent.
That’s my wording. What I mean, and think is consistent with Hazony, is that when western civilisation effectively transitioned from a Biblical covenant world view to a secular social contract world view, based on the fallacy of the importance of consent (as if humans can will into being a new world order from a blank slate/year zero) this is the height of hubris, hence idolatry. Consent is often very important but it more often, these days, is about radical individualism (radical egotism) - what *I* think and especially want, without recourse to the wisdom of ages, or, more bluntly, God.
I watch your CZcams channel often and find it enjoyable and informative, however, as an American, I don't think this episode addressed the overarching issues that have been affecting policy and society, not to mention our standpoint with the China government (CCP). In a way, the discussion was a bit frustrating to listen to at the least but I do recognize the fact that this is an Australian podcast interviewing a British citizen on American issues. That being said, it is possible you're not getting the full grasp of how America is working through some of our most challenging issues, but I'm confident that 'We the People' will clean up the trash within our country and prosper again.
🇺🇸 🇺🇸 U.S.A 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
P.S. - If the host would like additional feedback then I would certainly welcome the opportunity!
Thumbs up boosts the channel and the msg! 😊
The classical role of government is to tax away economic rents and use it to lower the cost of production. This is done through subsidies for such things as public infrastructure, education, and health care, not raising the cost of living and therefore the cost of labor, as with monopolistic privatization.
The problem with economics as it is understood in America, is that there is no distinction between wealth production and wealth extraction. Production of goods and services speaks for itself, but monopolies and the banks (FIRE, finance, insurance, and real estate) extract what is called economic rent. The free market Adam Smith talked about is free FROM economic rent, not free FOR economic rent.
This is Industrial Capitalism (China) as opposed to Financial Capitalism (USA), and it is what the conflict is really all about.
American democracy is entirely theatrical with the majority having no more effect on the rentier oligarchy than the Chinese majority on the Communist Party of China.
If the US was a democracy, we would have a decent minimum wage, public health care, free education, parental leave, and gun control, to name a few, all by popular demand.
Although the world may seem to be being bombarded with seemingly silly problems at this time, it is important to remember that there has rarely been a period of time when it has not been, and these are only punctuated by periods of more serious and immediate ones. If there has been such a time then these certainly passed me by for the last 62 years or must have been many hundreds of years before I was born. The good news is that we are all here to witness these times, and the even better news is that one day soon enough we won't be around to witness any. What is not to like?
Countries go up countries go down, but when it comes down to it we are only as free as our spirits, while our bodies have always been slaves.
29:07 What Prof. stokes think the main reasons that caused the woke movement
37:31 What John thinks about the reality of our inclusiveness-obsessive society is
no worries , Klaus Schwab has a PLAN
@@lukehanley5392 haha, he will own everything and be very happy
Unfortunately most people don’t even know about it. Propaganda works.
Klaus Schwab is a wretched creep
The points were definitely well made, far ranging and geo politically interesting. I found the syntax & lack of fluency, staccato speaking, a little 'wearing' to hear & listen to. (that's just me, I guess)
With wokism in short, one's insightful rationalism based upon facts and personal experience of the real world is dead and long buried.
Another thing in the developed West is that woke things have created new industries, many new jobs, new bureaucracies, governance structures etc. My very rough guess is that wokeism might have added about 10% to the GDP to the Western countries that have embraced it. Although it is the state that sets up the public structures and rules, the private sectors provide lots of the supporting institutions and services.
That's a fallacy, because it produces nothing of value, it just inflates the bureaucracies and spending which won't return 10% of the invested money.
It is rather a big factor of instability, a latent driver of high inflation and hyperinflation, and sand in gears to any real structural change. The "progressives" very soon become obstacles to progress.
It seems hard to understand why Mr. Anderson is so focused on the existential threat that he sees in politics of the rest of the world when Australia is locking away its own citizens in COVID concentration camps and threatening physicians with incarceration and the loss of their medical license if they dare to question the safety and efficacy of certain pharmaceutical agents or consider prescribing safe and effective repurposed medications in an effort to save the lives of thousands of their fellow human beings. I would imagine China is most pleased.
As he says, they’re far away from Western cultures and close to countries where things can take a serious turn sideways.
@@sheilabright2091 It seems as though they have driven the bus sideways on their own.
@@canoedoc2390 yes. It’s astounding to witness it. They’re very cognizant of their history as a penal colony, according to what I’ve read, as their police force (or whatever it’s called there) they say, are all the sons or children of prison guards. I’ve always been curious about those citizens who are so willing to enslave their fellow citizens. As if they are not aware that they’re handing the entire populace over to tyrants!
Great interview. It would have been interesting to hear Professor Stokes speak a little more about his experience in Bosnia and Herzegovina (BiH). Just two points. First, Mostar is not part of Bosnia; it is the largest city in Herzegovina. Second, I think it is a mistake to speak too much about how multi-ethnic BiH is. The old saying about Yugoslavia was that it had seven neighbors, six republics, five nations, four languages, three religions, two scripts, and one goal: Brotherhood and Unity. In these terms, BiH is considerably less diverse: it has one language, Serbo-Croatian, three religions, like Yugoslavia, but to all intents and purposes only one script, as Bosnian Serbs almost exclusively use the Latin script. People who nitpick about Serbian and Croatian being two languages have less rreason to do so about the speech of BiH. Bosnian Serbs use the ijekavian variant of Serbo-Croatian, like Croats and Bosniaks (Muslims) and all nations in BiH tend to use more words of Turkish origin in their speech than Serbo-Croatian speakers in the other republics (Serbia, Croatia and Montenegro).
At the end, asks if the West can still stand against totalitarian regime?
Australia can't even do it at home.
Firstly, the reason a people stay together regionally is that they share a mindset which they consider is obviously, if imperfectly shared by everyone. In other words they feel at ease in their world; maybe even lucky.
People in the USA for instance currently exhibit a great deal of unease. Public forums, say the media and social programmes are not respectful of this natural need.
Russia is America's greatest enemy, not because of its might but because it has decided to engage in a "cat and mouse" game within the social networks in order to aid the destabilization of the U.S. China has very cleverly seduced western cultures to unbelievably, outsource manufacturing requirements leaving for instance their previously upwardly mobile middle class to decline.Do they feel lucky? No. Did Donald Trump understand this issue. Oh, yes.
Clearly in the USA the wealthy are at odds with the middle class - who have a social conscience. Woke-ism is an expression of that as much as any other issue. Both sides must return to negotiation and something akin to binding consensus. Following the use of the USA as an example, the halls of Congress are a clear example of the general disorder. Congress needs to remember what it was designed for. They are administers to the common good.
Great Conversation and a very important deep dive into the geopolitics and the state of identity politics in the contemporary university settings . I reject Wokeism in regard to the way it is currently used. I would rather say ‘ Wake Up “ . There is no need to confuse realities with religious bias and conflate sensible liberal world order that has maintained western democracy thanks to post war U.S. and the Allies efforts with the John’s Australian dysfunctional Liberal Party with its incompetent Messiah from the Shire . He needs to Wake Up and listen to John and his sensible thinking that I think has more to do with his genuine humanitarian instincts rather then what he believes to be due to his religious convictions which he is entitled to
Stokes had better study the security proposals put forward by Russia before condemning them. Britain is by far the most rabidly anti-Russian country after the USA, so Stokes' position on European security is approximately understandable.
The problem with the TPP is that it takes resources out of the U.S., so you're exacerbating the problem of Globalism that has lead to the rise of populism. You aren't going to solve the China problem by paying for peace with the exportation of wealth from the working class of our own countries. You might stabilise one region only to find your own country is being destabilised in the process. In fact the best way to deal with China is to stop enriching them at our own expense. If they want our investment then they need to start adhering to certain standards of behaviour those of us who would invest find acceptable. Right now we offer them far too much carrot and not near enough stick (financially speaking).
capitalism defined by boom and bust , more people now so the bust is catastrophic
That's due to people believing the government can fix it.
Well Mostar is another place where Muslims live on one side of the river and Christian croats live on the other.
As to the Republica of Sprka, that should never of been allowed. It is just a line that draws difference between people meandering through a big City. The Bosnians will never forget the ethnic cleansing.
We are currently in a moment where rationality and reason have been thrown overboard and replaced with emotion and self- absorption.
The mores of middle class trend setters have often taken our societies down blind alleys but time and again the undervalued but down to earth common sense of the working classes intervenes as a course corrective.
For example, the bourgeois obsession with racial equity stands in contrast to their habit of living in 99% white communities and the non existing percentage of inter-racial marriage. Meanwhile the so called ignorant and racist commoners live side by side with other races and freely inter marry.
You seldom hear any acknowledgement of this fact through the MSM.
This guy is wasted in the UK university system… I am glad he is there however…
Wonderful talk but I cannot help but sense that the Professor has to choose his words and language very carefully in the present PC and woke culture, especially as relates to his bosses. UK hate speech and other illiberal laws are stifling freedom of speech in the UK. But enjoyed the talk just the same.
Deleted comment ?
Not yet
@@LeeGee Not yet, but y tube has a new algorithm called *The Karen Algorithm*
Some of the most privileged people are the blacks & Pakastani muslims in the West. Why, because they receive huge amounts of taxpayers funds for their education, health, food housing, their children etc. There is no White privilege in paying for all of that & btw, working blacks, south & east asians are tended to be lumped together somehow as White. Black and minority ethnics (BAME) includes the high achieving motivated education of east & south Asians along with the low achieving blacks, this raises the apparent BAME education levels which is fuel for the blacks to say they are discriminated against.
I repeat, most whites are not "privileged" but there are some extremely wealthy blacks, whites, asians etc whose kids may get some benefit, they are definately in the minority!
The 19th century's "White Man's Burden" has been replaced by "White Privilege".
Post Soviet collapse, I feel Russia would be a more natural ally for the West (rather than with China). The problem seems to be a rather inappropriate continuation of Cold War rhetoric, with being actually substantive.
Well the Bosnian Government didn't work, they are still arguing NOW! Lol 😯😂
Does Australia have nuclear weapons?
Our Universities have done a great job of educating everyone except Australians. For profit.
Great discussion.
I believe the wheels of Western Capitalism were spun too fast, the (over unregulated) rampage for growth has worn out
the magnificent vehicle.
Curveballs like Wokeism, Race Theory, even UFO talk and the ol' 'having nothing but being happy',
may help us better accept a new vehicle, however less magnificent it may turn out to be.
Incidentally, I guess a public statement from our leaders clarifying their position on the WEF comments,
maybe a waste of time? Or how they may intend on insulating Australia as best possible, if possible?
Not trying to be alarmist, nor was I when I had concerns 15 years ago.
LIKE
surpassed by reality again. what about a very capable tennisplayer being banned from one of 4 high stakes tennis tourenaments for mere technicalities ?
.
Read my lips: A Leopard Can Always Change Its Spots No Matter How Hard It Try!
While yes, it is true that the current global peace can be dated back to america after the second world war - in all honesty: It's been the also americans fault as well that the 2nd world war happened. They tore apart countries after the first world war, countries that evolved over centuries. The mess we have in europe today leads back to what happened after the first world war which america really really wanted to participate in.
The 'forebearance' towards Japan shown after its subjugation is one important feature of modern US interaction with Asia - and if you believe in the advance of a particular set of values it is admirable, even praiseworthy. However it takes a vision of unified humanity and a global, longterm viewpoint to see it that way. There are competing structures of values which do not consider dropping nuclear bombs as anything more than an expression of dominance, and any subsequent forebearance towards the subjugated as meaningless in the shadow of that brutality. At best, it could be seen as 'teaching a lesson' in Western methods, which of course have been happily and wisely adopted worldwide. If you knew your neighbour had blown up the house on the other side of the street, you'd set about learning his ways and preparing your defense, wouldn't you?
So, as an imitator par exellence, China has grown into a 'big dog', and wants everyone to cower in fear or kowtow in awe. Unfortunately, just like the cultural beliefs which drove imperial Japan into its brutal expansion, Xi's modern China is teaching its people a form of ethnic exceptionalism and using it to exercise power over communities worldwide on the basis of ethnicity. Without a massive program of mature education this will result in brutality on an immense, coordinated scale. Yet what possible method could be envisaged by the West that might subjugate China as Japan was subjugated, when such methods are in the hands of those who think they are born to rule over everyone on the basis of race?
There's no doubt in my mind that humanity armed with the capacity for death and destruction that modern nations are devloping only possesses one option if it is going to avoid catastrophe - an awakening to our fundamental unity experienced unequivocally by all. This cannot be achieved without some external agency, a force dominating any and every human power. Naturally, various sectors of humanity have lain claim to be representatives of such dominant forces, including a God which justifies the actions of its servants, and that causes ongoing conflicts. (Another such force is 'nature', sometimes personified in Gaia, which is producing other conflicts.) Humanity is surely in trouble.
This is why I call on the spirit of Christ to save us.
The rest of the world has freely handed global power to China by outsourcing just about everything they need to production in China
Does Australia have nukes?
I'm sure the Indonesians loved the US liberal order in 1965. Where are the Americans? Hopefully over there and not here.