2024 CX400 Tour: Dunlop's Secret Weapon?
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- Dunlop CX400 Tour racquet review. Beckett explores how the CX400 Tour has improved on the flaws of the CX200, how it fits in today's racquet market and how it may me improved for the next generation.
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The distance between my mouse cursor and the unsubscribe button is quantum entangled with the distance between the 95D and the knee of your self from another dimension.
Good to see you guys on proper courts again, Beckett!
My outdoor club just opened up recently and I am THRILLED to be back out on court!
Happy hitting, TennCom Fam!
(Except for that bastard, Morpheous)
Haven't watched your videos in a while. FWIW your game on court has improved a lot. Keep up the great work.
thanks man!
Wow you took this review to a whole other dimension, literally 😎
@tenncom another video with good script and good editing. Keep it up.
thank you, thanks for watching and more to come!
I still like the 2021 cx 200 more. I just put lead on the head for more swing weight and stability and I'm happy
stopped watching at 1:44. bought this racquet because it's perfect without qualification. thanks beckett!
money well spent!
If you want a CX400 Tour with a tighter stringing pattern, just try the previous one.
It's 16x19, but the string pattern itself alone doesn't say the whole story. String spacing can is tighter on the previous CX400 Tour 16x19 than the 16x20 is on the Diadem Elevate.
i have one. denser in the sweetspot, sparser outside of the sweetspot. nice racquet
A cool video to do is a vintage budget racquet challenge where you and a friend, Simon if possible, get a small budget of $50 and go to pawn shops and thrift stores for old tennis racquets. The racquets have to be either graphite or any composite material (basically anything but wood) and within 90 to 100 sq. inches. Racquets have to be anything pre-2000. Leftover funds can be used for upgrades like grips, strings, and weights.
Reason for this idea goes out to all my poor tennis players (✊️🥲 I feel you). But on a more serious note, it's to see if vintage racquets are even worth using in a modern, competitive setting. Questions of whether or not the technology has improved massively and if all vintage racquets need to be usable are modern add ons like grips and strings.
I would go to these thift, bargain stores and be fascinated by the old gear they have, especially from brands I had never heard of. Would be interested to see a video like that.
This is a fantastic idea - Simon
You could try to do some point systems such as points for every $ dollar not spent (as meant to be a budget focused test) and points for acceptable performance such as comfort, overall weight, swing weight etc.; running those numbers against modern racquets to see if they are more or less the same or even better performing with the lower price.
The main thing is price, which is a big problem when it comes to getting into tennis. The racquet is one thing, other things include the string job, adding weight, applying grips, etc. which can amount to absurd prices just to get a basic setup to hold your own while learning the game.
More bonus points awarded for non-big brand racquets like ProKennex, Donnay, and even if you are able to find old Adidas racquets from the 90s like the GTX Mids used by the likes of Ivan Lendl.
Can you customize it to make it better and then share your thoughts? Review the CX200 Tour
Would also love to hear your take on the 2024 CX 200 Tour 16x19... Both w/ and w/o customized weight.
Great review, my feeling of the previous generation cx400t is the same as your assessment of the new one. Definitely too high of a swing weight for me and it felt very clunky on my ohbh. But yes, serves, hitting flat, and slices were amazing.
Really looking forward to your Regna video!
I also went up to 54 lbs and liked it on this racquet. 54 lbs natural gut mains with 48 lbs poly crosses
I use the old version of the cx400 tour, I thought about updating to this but Im a little concerned about the more open pattern
Dang that court is beautiful
I was thinking the same thing. The color grade on the footage really makes the court pop.
thank you thank you
Despite the difference in the two strigbeds can be made a comparison between this frame and the new pure strike 98 16*19? My doubt about pure strike is the smaller sweetspot.....
Good review. Tempting to give this one a try. Just hesitant about the stiffness with my past issues with shoulder and wrist. I’m still on my journey to find a replacement to my Pure Strike 100 2nd generation that I heavily customized to add weight everywhere. So far, I like Boom Pro, Gravity Pro (only on my best days) and Speed MP (on my worst days). Was not into EZone 100 and the new Blade 98, surprising since most love it. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching! I think if you are comfortable with the Boom Pro, the stiffness with the 400T shouldn't be an issue. I found that even the newer version of the BP, which is supposed to be softer, to feel more stiff than the 400T.
@@TennCom thanks for your reply. Much appreciated. Will let you know.
I'm glad to see these reviews. I used the same racquet for 20 years until I tried the previous version of the 400 tour.. Now it's better.. SHIT !
Great review! Love the scripting as always. Planning on a new pure strike 97 review? 👀
Thanks! I'm going to do the 98 16x19 and probably stop there unless I stumble across the 100 16x20. I hit the 97 with Luca and it was so similar to the PSVS that I lost interest, whereas I feel the 98's mark serious improvements over the previous gen
Higher mgr/i doesn't make the racket swing faster. It actually makes it less whippy for a more controlled contact point.
Your reviews are all great - thank you! If you don’t mind - I’m debating between CX400 Tour; Precept 97 and Pure Strike 100 16x20 (realize having the 97 in there a bit strange). I’ve demo’d them and it’s a bit hard to tell the difference in a relatively short period of time. I do tend to have elbow and shoulder issues so long term comfort a key driver here. I’m a 4.5 with all court game and feel I could benefit from the 100 size even though the Precept 97 does seem to have a nice soft feel (the Precept 100 I didn’t love). A lot of the reviews I read indicate the Dunlop may be best for arm issues which confuses me given the higher stiffness rating and less headlight. Would love any thoughts - thanks again.
Thanks Ted! Arm issues are always tricky. It's hard to know what about certain racquets really bother the arm. I haven't tried the latest Strike 100 so sadly I can't be of the most help. I personally would chose the 97 for my game. I struggled to really groove with the 400T even though I really think having the extra power is important. Do you know if the Percept 100 you tried was strung differently from the 97? I thought they felt pretty similar and I'm a big fan of the Percept 100.
Your FH suffers @ 330SW but not double handed backhands. Up static weight lower SW like the Popyrin 2016 Dunlop Precision 100 Tour its a PJ pro stock.
Any chance the CX 200 Tour 16x19 fixes some of the problems of the regular CX 200? Slightly stiffer layup of graphite (albeit a thinner beam), and they also widened the string spacing compared to the outgoing model. Hoping that slight increase in swingweight helps, and the smaller headsize - in theory - could lead to an ever lower twistweight? It looks like whatever Dunlop did to the 2024 CX series helped improve stability despite less overall weight in the hoop, which might be worth looking at for people chasing racquets with lower twistweights.
Hard to say, the reviews seem pretty up and down. If you like the CX200 and want something that isn't so obviously flawed I think the VCORE 95 is the way to go. Similar level of forgiveness, spin and maneuverability but way more stable and solid feeling.
Thank you for the video, na-Baron
King Beckett had never been wrong
How does it compare to the previous cx400 tour?
How does this compare to the 2024 speed mp?
The feel is more neutral and pure, but the Speed wins every other category I'd say.
I am still playing my srixion 2.0 tour frames all leaded up. I love them but am interested in trying a little more forgiving frame.
Demo the wilson ultra pro v4 , you should like or love it .
How would you compare CX400 Tour to the v9 or v8 Blade 100?
Sadly I can't compare as I haven't tried either of the Blade 100s
It might appeal to guys growing up with older style tennis. Like me. 😅 I play Speed pro and quite like it.
I just watched the video three times. But unfortunately I don't understand the disadvantage of the racket in practice. High and unconsistent launch angle? I'm a relatively flat hitter who loves the stability, feel and plow- through of the rf97, but I'm not fit enough for this weight. Is the CX400Tour worth a try for me, or there are better 300ish grams alternative to rf97?
When you frame it that way, I think the racquet does make more sense, you still get a lot more stability, feel and plow compared to a lot of other 100s. I guess my issue is that it still doesn't swing much like an RF, even though you still get a similar punch. Its pretty laggy and slow for its weight. I personally would rather the Prostaff X instead, I know they aren't in the same weight class, but at 315g with a 325SW, the PSX is still a nice step down from the RF and I felt that it swung more smoothly and had a more consistent string bed.
@@TennCom Thanks for the advice. I will try both (CX400T, PSX)
I know you love hearing from me , so I am going to add my 2 cents . I just demoed the cx 200 , 200 tour 16x19 and 400 tour last week . The cx 200 does not perform as well as the previous gen did . The box frames of the updated racquets make the 200 and 400 tour feel sluggish in the air . The updates desire for more comfort has taken away from its performance .
Dunlop is trying like other legacy control line companies , to access the general market space . In the process , they become less useful in control and spin . Dumbing down a racket does not help anyone . This is also the case for the percept 97 reg vs the vcore pro reg . Pure strike 97 lost its forehand control and power balance and the percepts heaftier feeling in its balance, has a loss of the backhand low height skid ball . Either way they feel less pro and probably why they droped the pro and vs names .
The best of the line for me was the cx 200 tour 16x19 . It was interesting on play. It did not enthrall me . Low to medium spin and not enough control but added weight was unnecessary vs the 200 that could benefit from having it in the head while the 400 tour in the grip . The 200 tour as a more open 16 x19 should be a high spin racquet balanced with control .
I tested all 3 with a size 2 grip . A person with a size 3 grip may benefit more from the 200 than I and a larger grip size for the 400 tour . To me the previous gen of the cx 200 tour 18x20 modded performs far better . There were no sacrifices made on the alter of consumerism . I have 2 cx 200 tour 2021 rackets .
Listening to their paying consumers is neccesary and they failed to do that . This is the price , in not doing so .
A great racket , if you have or will have the opportunity to test is the Wilson ultra pro v4 . It is a true , pure beautifuly performing 97 . The specs are in the same range of the cx's and is untainted by the general consumer market . This is a true successor to the pro staff v13 regular .
Yeah, I don't have much experience with last gen, but this gen feels like they really missed the boat in a few keys areas that led to the whole line falling short and I think they made some obviously dumb choices.
@@TennCom Almost all of dunlop / srixons current promotions and reviews are in and for the japanese audience . There color choices are very eastern inspired . They fail at this time to cater to the western identity of a British brand , that is Dunlop . Their current line up was supposed to be inspired by the origional and later edition 200G and my first major rackets as a child. The Black Max which was the sister racket to the McEnroe 200 G .
The racket is a bit more elegant and durable than the previous gen , but the orange in the racket fails it . They choose to not properly listen to their consumers .
They are very strategic though , they have a strong vested interest in slinger and kswiss . They pushed these oroducts to the european tennis association in 2022 . I would not doubt that a newer Dunlop sho would come out of it and poss golf with srixons other held companies . They own now all of dunlop Tyre companies divisions and so dunlop rubber makes sence with its own rubber compositions .
Remember Wilson utilizes the other company the chinese company that bought them owns , Solomon. So alon g with balls , they are weaving their way into everything including padel in europe .
What would you say if you compare it with dunlop fx500 2023?
The 500 is a lot more powerful and works better with my forehand and you get so much for for free in general. The high SW of the 400T makes it less accessible to more intermediate players as well, so for the 3.5/4.0 player, its easier to recommend the 500, not that the 400T is out of range for that type of player, just that it'll work less often for that type of player. Spin goes to the 500 too, but control and feel to the 400T
Do you have an opinion on the Tecnifibre Iga 298?
I used it only for a minute and it was nice but felt quite stiff... no real opinions tho
Have you tested any of the head prestige 2023? Not the classic 2.0 which you struggled with but the auxetic 2 versions?
Yeah, I did a video on the MPL which I think is a solid all-around offering and I've also hit the Pro, which I'm not a huge fan of. I don't the the feel/control was good enough to justify the lack of stability for that frame.
@@TennCom im looking at the tour version as its got better swing weight and still quite flexible at 62ra. Did you feel the pro was too flexible? 58ra sounds like a noodle
68RA? Wtf. Why did they make it so stiff??
What are the great racquets from your pov then, if this is just good?
Of the new racquets one can buy today, I think the following are great: Whiteout 18x20, Aero 98, Gravity Pro, Strike 98, EZONE 100, VCORE 100 and 95, Regna 98, Extreme MP... I even hit the new Boom MP recently and liked it a lot but that was only for a few minutes so can't say if its actually great.
why the Yonex 100's over the 98's?
@@SwagKnight420 I think there are better 98s out there whereas I don't think there are many better 100s.
My CX400 Tour strung SW is 323
Mine was 319
I have 2. One is 323, another one is 329
it’s notable how much longer the ads are now to watch these videos. i’ll go somewhere else
What’s the twistweight on your CX400 Tour, please?
14.1 strung so pretty reasonable for a 100
@@TennCom Thank you. TW 14.1 makes a racquet feel sluggish for me. SW of 345, no problem; provided TW is no more than 13.5.
@@jerome_morrow That's what I thought too for the longest time too, but my Whiteouts are like 14.5 and feel way faster the 400T, I just measured my APDO (huge mods though) and its 14 unstrung and feels plenty fast considering 360SW. The new Strike, also feels slow, I would have guessed 15TW, but no, 14 again, strung. It feels like I'm missing something when it comes to twistweight or specs that properly describe maneuverability.
@@TennCom I’m still trying to work out some sort of correlation between twistweight and swingweight, and their combined effect on how a racquet performs for my game. Currently, I’ve been experimenting with (TW*10 + SW = 480) and this seems to work for me. However, looking at your numbers there, the same doesn’t apply to you.
Being a gearhead is a rabbit hole with no end! Have to say that investing in an SW1 has been an eye opener and totally worth it.
@@jerome_morrow interesting... I wonder if we under utilize spinweight (swingweight but sideways) and that would track twistweight and swingweight at the same time. For example, adding weight at 4 and 8 would increase TW the same as 10 and 2, but SW would obviously be different.
Mr. Beckettson, welcome back
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Prince Tour Diablo MP
Head Size: 100 in² / 645.16 cm²
Length: 27.25in / 69.22cm
Strung Weight: 11.5oz / 326g
Balance: 12.59in / 31.98cm / 8 pts HL
Swingweight: 317
Stiffness: 60
Beam Width: 19.5mm / 19.5mm / 19mm
String pattern?
@@nicks8060 String Pattern:
16 Mains / 18 Crosses
Is the cx200 tour the best 95?
I hit the 18x20 for two seconds the other day when Luca was doing his 1hander video and i prefer the VC95 all day
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