Joe Rogan - Steven Tyler Takes on the Music Industry

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  • čas přidán 18. 05. 2018
  • Steven Tyler explains the Music Modernization Act.

Komentáře • 238

  • @ShaunJames596
    @ShaunJames596 Před 4 lety +379

    Damn that Spotify rant did not age well.

  • @leethoven
    @leethoven Před 4 lety +151

    I am from the future.
    Joe Rogan moves exclusively to Spotify.

  • @eljefescientist5726
    @eljefescientist5726 Před 6 lety +108

    Stephen has a point. Back in the old days people would hear new music on the radio and if they liked it they would buy the album. As a result, royalty rates were kept very low for radio (performance rates), while higher / market rates for albums (mechanical rates). This was seen as fair because radio acted like an advertiser for the songs and the real money would come via record sales. Streaming changed everything because the listener does not own the music (or mechanical like a record, CD or mp3). As such, streaming was given the low radio perf. rate as a model - even though streaming offered no benefit towards record sales. The MMA seeks to readjust the rates to today’s market. The US Constitution allows Congress to pass Law in context to copyright.

    • @keithjagger8095
      @keithjagger8095 Před 6 lety +2

      El Jefe Scientist Old days? Shit, it wasn’t that long ago that radio was the medium to promote your band’s album. Obviously, not the case anymore.

    • @Seriona1
      @Seriona1 Před 3 lety

      @@keithjagger8095 Radio for the most part still functions the same. Internet however has degraded that. Radio can still advertise your music, the actual issue with radio is that it is setup to be bias to whoever pays what station to play. Hence why pop stations will play Lady GaGa's new song three times in one hour. And they claim it's only a top hit because most people will listen to pop stations that happen to play three times per hour. It's an inflation device to claim your hit is "famous and big" but with that said, it doesn't change the fact that whatever radio stations genre can still by concept, advise your song.

    • @EnDependance123
      @EnDependance123 Před rokem

      Holy shit did you figure that out yourself man aaaahahaha

  • @2Sweeet
    @2Sweeet Před 5 lety +41

    I've listened to several clips from this podcast tonight, I've really enjoyed listening to Steven Tyler.

  • @tippersdad5152
    @tippersdad5152 Před 3 lety +145

    Dude, let Stephen talk!

    • @Rockin_Ross
      @Rockin_Ross Před 3 lety +18

      Agreed! Joe has interviewed a lot of music people, so now he thinks he knows more than the one he’s talking to.
      Irritating!

    • @thefolsta1
      @thefolsta1 Před 3 lety +5

      Fuckin seriously

    • @nonexistenceisbliss9528
      @nonexistenceisbliss9528 Před 3 lety +3

      Joe is an extrovert who doesn't know when to shut the fuck up and LISTEN. This is why I hate extroverts and NT's in general, they talk wayyy too fucking much without letting other people get their point across.

    • @Zwenn
      @Zwenn Před 3 lety +6

      Joe just went to Spotify dude

    • @CzarYe
      @CzarYe Před 3 lety +1

      who is stephen?

  • @MrBunnymaan
    @MrBunnymaan Před 6 lety +72

    wasn't prince talking about this for long time and people where saying that he was wrong to want to protect his art

    • @melsmithmel
      @melsmithmel Před 4 lety +9

      Yes indeed, that's why he wrote Slave on his face and changed his name. He was so obsessive about his Art and music.

    • @tubester4567
      @tubester4567 Před 3 lety +1

      Nobody said he was wrong. Musicians have been complaining about this since the business began. Prince at least was a very rich man. Many great artists didnt earn a penny.

    • @greenmatrix30seven
      @greenmatrix30seven Před 3 lety +1

      What prince was basically saying was artists nowadays arent making the money that they used to. Ppl tend not to value things they can get for free. For example there’s a thing called the compulsory license law which allows artists through the record company’s to take music at will w/o permission. Which doesn’t exist in any other art form. Intellectual copyrights.

  • @MatoMusic805
    @MatoMusic805 Před 6 lety +25

    Stephen showed great respect for Smoky Robinson. Even made a great example of true richness.

  • @quietwyatt4045
    @quietwyatt4045 Před 5 lety +22

    The problem, IMO, and speaking as a FORMER professional musician myself, is based on one basic confusion. When people use the term “The Music Business”, what they’re actually referring to unknowingly is The Record Business. A hundred years ago there was no record business. Musicians only got paid for playing live. Songwriters had it better than the musicians back then since they owned the publishing rights. But when musicians started making records - physical objects bought in stores - that’s when the potential to make serious money started. It might just be that the “Record Business” was kind of an anomaly in the music biz; and so far as I can see, those years are over. And the days of musicians having to “play for their supper” have returned.

    • @JokerzGallery
      @JokerzGallery Před 2 lety

      Comparing anything modern time to the good ol days is pretty pointless.

    • @Icebergslim91
      @Icebergslim91 Před 2 lety

      @@JokerzGallery it’s not the good old days though. Musicians have been around forever but serious mansion money really only started in the 60’s ( of course there are a few exceptions), it peaked in the 90’s and then started declining with illegal downloads and now streaming. Musicians have to make their money with shows which is how it’s always been the golden era where bands could sign a record deal and buy a mansion and 10 cars is a weird trend in the grand scheme of things. Obviously a lot of money for a few pop singers and rappers etc. but other artist have to make their livings with merch and live shows.

    • @joepermenter7228
      @joepermenter7228 Před rokem

      Play for supper unless your rich as shit already and can jack ticket prices through the roof because the dumbass masses have their pocket tv recording device they were programmed to purchase and live in a mostly false reality due to social media; so they can't budget their finances or their time worth a fuck to see they are being controlled to buy crap they don't need. All we got now in the "record business" is old troubadours unwilling to care about cutting new records for another yacht and up and comers who are controlled to be unheard unless they sound like everyone else in the establishment.

  • @kathberry2467
    @kathberry2467 Před 3 lety +8

    This is so needed. Management takes everything not just money they take life they take souls and happiness

  • @michellehawkins4448
    @michellehawkins4448 Před 3 lety +20

    Steven Tyler Tells It Like It Is. Period.

  • @EpyonRoyal
    @EpyonRoyal Před 6 lety +71

    Jamie: "I studied Lil Tay in college. I got an A!"

    • @skoal91
      @skoal91 Před 6 lety +2

      Lol yeah, I feel like Jamie says that in a lot of his arguments. Must've taken general studies for four years and not focused on a career path.

    • @tribeard5424
      @tribeard5424 Před 6 lety +1

      EpyonRoyal Jamie is such an idiot, when he was he getting all heated on the nukes with Eddie he was like ya I got an a. Then Eddie was like so you went to nuclear physics class? And Jamie was like no I didn’t go that class. Eddie is just to crazy of a dude to sound logical sometimes

  • @JokerzGallery
    @JokerzGallery Před 2 lety +10

    This showed everyone (well, me atleast) the different side of Steven way more than American Idol. Cool to see someone that is a big of a rockstar as can be, also be really cool and down to earth

  • @jamesfox8930
    @jamesfox8930 Před 3 lety +41

    lol Rogan talkin about Spotify aAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

  • @ryanh4975
    @ryanh4975 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This was 5 years ago. I swear it feels like I just watched this live. 😂😩

  • @wolfcounsel2824
    @wolfcounsel2824 Před 3 lety +2

    Mr Tyler m..he is been through everything!my guru !!🙏🙌

  • @thepredator4480
    @thepredator4480 Před 6 lety +14

    This shit makes me not want spotify anymore. If I listen to your music you deserve my money.

  • @Ndzzle
    @Ndzzle Před 6 lety +6

    The service provider (comcast) owns Media companies like movie studios. So they have a personal interest in going after people stealing their content through their network. Even I've gotten emails from comcast telling me to stop watching movies online (before vpn).

  • @jmm6593
    @jmm6593 Před 2 lety +5

    Love JRE. Had to chuckle at a little after 5:11 when Joe said he was not on Spotify. Listen to him daily on Spotify currently. What changed?

  • @lunarsatellitemusic
    @lunarsatellitemusic Před 3 lety +7

    The problem is that streaming allows for more competition and artistic freedom whereas a sales focused mentality sort of forces the artists to create something that will appeal to the masses.
    I think the best solution is to limit free streaming to selective songs from albums, or EP's/singles.
    Listening to Spotify these days feels like you're listening to musicians the same way you watch people in the Hunger Games.

    • @radidov5333
      @radidov5333 Před 11 měsíci

      you probably live in the moon Lunarsatellite lol competition and artistic freedom dont matter f if the same greedy pigs controls the streaming medias or the distribution. At the end of the day its all about money..and you cant give labels any power on that
      besides who decides what songs to limit ?? who can have authority on that besides the artist?..
      btw..listening to musicians nowadays on spotify is shit, same as HG

  • @Tommyboy6426
    @Tommyboy6426 Před rokem +3

    My Dad‘s friend has a house next to Steven’s house in Mass. My Dad told me a story earlier today about a time when his friend hosted a party at the house, he was drunk and decided to go take a piss in a bush in Steven’s backyard. As he’s taking a piss, Steven walks up to him and says “What… are you doing??” The friend said “Oh, I’m just looking for my wallet.” Steven patted his ass saying “You mean this wallet in your pocket?” The friend said “Oh yeah! That wallet!” My Dad’s friend went back to his house and Steven came along and hung out for a bit. The friend said he was very nice.

  • @decarlocalloway01
    @decarlocalloway01 Před 3 lety +5

    Ppl might confuse this & say “why is he complaining he’s rich” or something like that, but the point is someone else who didn’t do shit is taking their music to the bank not them. It would piss you off too.

  • @dwolivas
    @dwolivas Před 5 lety +7

    Steven's point is profound. Yes this is a small issue. Yes we're all going to go to bed happy healthy and alive at the end of the day. But no lies/cheats/steals even half as hard as the music business does

  • @gummibing8908
    @gummibing8908 Před 3 lety +13

    Hearing Joe Rogan saying the reason why he's not on Spotify.... Yikes considering he just signed up with them.

    • @johnnyrocker7495
      @johnnyrocker7495 Před 3 lety

      He's full of shit.

    • @tituscrow2402
      @tituscrow2402 Před 3 lety +5

      No he's not he finally signed with them when he got a deal that made sense. For a long time the deal was way skewed toward the service. He finally got the deal he wanted that made financial sense for him.

    • @Seriona1
      @Seriona1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@tituscrow2402 Except elements within are trying to fuck with his deal but so far Spotify has been cool about it.

  • @patpeon9007
    @patpeon9007 Před 6 lety +11

    Love in an elevator, Livin' it up when I'm goin' down...

  • @johngetek5211
    @johngetek5211 Před 6 lety +16

    Joe rogans lil tay number 1 plugger

  • @janjones8006
    @janjones8006 Před 6 lety +4

    Im a musician struggling w/ discrimination in this field men can break thru noooo problem w half my talent. Screw the industry I am stuck with......

    • @perrymason866
      @perrymason866 Před 3 lety +4

      Why haven’t you got any music up for people to listen? What makes you so sure that you’re so talented and are writing the right songs? There are a lot of professional female musicians out there who are killing it... If you’re as talented as you think then it’s time to commit to it and work as hard as you can to push your music out to people. For instance, Ed Sheeran played more than 300 gigs in a single year when he was trying to make it. That is a serious work ethic... Just think about all the time he spent travelling/networking/setting up shows to achieve that. If anybody offers to hand it to you on a platter, they’re very likely deceiving you.

  • @sinbaon2154
    @sinbaon2154 Před 6 lety +4

    Steven Tyler is sooo freakin awesome!

  • @ChroniclesofAJ
    @ChroniclesofAJ Před 6 lety +1

    ever since Napster had came out that's when the music industry changed alot

  • @HunterRouth
    @HunterRouth Před 3 lety +5

    This aged lovely.

  • @ruthcachia1980
    @ruthcachia1980 Před 3 lety +3

    Who remember About 20yrs ago Michael Jackson was protesting against the record companies "sony" that they steal from the artist and if the artist stop touring they go broke and at that time media made fun of him. The thing is record companies are nothing without the artist

    • @sallyhanson8317
      @sallyhanson8317 Před 3 lety

      Yep. That's who came to mind and how the record companies and MJ financial managers screwed him. Mike was bigger than the industry, influence wise. They destroyed a genius.

  • @Tesla_ofthe_Skies
    @Tesla_ofthe_Skies Před 3 lety +8

    Scariest part is, the money is just the first thing the Execs/managers want from the artist. There are too many depraved people in the industry, mostly men who abuse their power criminally and with impunity!

  • @Stryker_Cade
    @Stryker_Cade Před 6 lety

    Hi Joe!
    Would you check out Terrance Popp and have him on your show?

  • @sacto652
    @sacto652 Před 3 lety +3

    Steven Tyler underrated singer.

  • @up2me967
    @up2me967 Před rokem +1

    He's such a beautyfull soal. Never change!

  • @Lor00D
    @Lor00D Před 6 lety +1

    Why doesnt the music industry get all its affected or agreeing people to form their own "spotify" or "iTunes" where they can distribute the money amongst their own committee i.e. directly to the artists.

  • @justis4143
    @justis4143 Před 2 lety

    5:09 😅 not on Spotify

  • @zerkzy842
    @zerkzy842 Před 6 lety +12

    Tyler looks more like 40 than 70.

  • @jerzeyguy71
    @jerzeyguy71 Před 4 lety +1

    Joe better hopes Spotify doesnt see this.. wow, wonder if he will or if he has talked about this at all on his show.

  • @darrylbannon2727
    @darrylbannon2727 Před 3 lety +2

    360 deal, Jared Leto did a good doc about his bands deal and how much the label took from them.

  • @joeyhoward-williams8853

    "in there f*cking pockets" that look on his face was priceless

  • @arnoldles858
    @arnoldles858 Před 6 lety +4

    If every artist stopped giving music to labels and streaming services what would happen?

    • @JokerzGallery
      @JokerzGallery Před 2 lety +1

      Record labels own the master rights of the recording (in most cases) so artists have 0 say if their music gets added to Spotify or any streaming service.

  • @PIS187
    @PIS187 Před 6 lety +22

    Joe “ I know everything “ rogan

  • @dylantaylor2271
    @dylantaylor2271 Před 2 lety

    Funny how that’ Spotify thing that made no sense to be on is the only way to watch JRE now!

  • @samuelwoods164
    @samuelwoods164 Před 6 lety

    I love his tone when he says things like in their fucking pockets.

  • @carolmorris9449
    @carolmorris9449 Před 2 lety +1

    It is criminal what they are doing to artists these days. How long before nobody is interested in writing and performing music? Greed is ruining the world.

  • @curtthechameleon
    @curtthechameleon Před rokem +3

    Hes talking about NOT being on Spotify. That's hilarious. As he's rolling in Spotify money now.

  • @friendlyfireonkgrg5374
    @friendlyfireonkgrg5374 Před 6 lety +2

    Stanhope wanted comedy bookers to stop getting cuts from standups, too. Less lawyers=less leeches.

  • @tobiesoftstudio823
    @tobiesoftstudio823 Před rokem

    The prick at 7:27, I think Steven is referring to is Lars Ulrich, drummer from the band, Metallica. He went after Napster and took them to court. He fought the fight and lost. Steven said it best, " it's become the norm.".

    • @user-ux1vj9vx7s
      @user-ux1vj9vx7s Před 11 měsíci

      What are you even talking about? He’s obviously talking about Sean Parker. Why would he have any ill will toward Ulrich? You’re an idiot

  • @ni5hu
    @ni5hu Před 4 lety +3

    Well well, how the turn tables.

  • @vambo13257
    @vambo13257 Před 6 lety +2

    How did Smokey know exactly how much he was owed?

  • @debonaire_nerd
    @debonaire_nerd Před 8 měsíci

    5:08 - Jamie, fast forward a few years

  • @gonzalosanchez3767
    @gonzalosanchez3767 Před 3 lety

    2:50 ????? 🎶

  • @kyro3127
    @kyro3127 Před rokem

    Wonder what changed

  • @chelsiemartin3634
    @chelsiemartin3634 Před měsícem

    Just give these artists the money theyve earned they deserve it

  • @tritone3284
    @tritone3284 Před 6 lety +1

    The music business and the music makers is such a huge gigantic problem that not body cannot actually imagine! It's a problem that unfortunately will be not resolved for maybe another 20 years or so...

  • @chelsiemartin3634
    @chelsiemartin3634 Před měsícem

    Steven is a genius and totally right, love you forever baby ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @maxu8
    @maxu8 Před 3 lety

    annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd joes on spotify.

  • @christophersmith8486
    @christophersmith8486 Před 3 lety

    5:10 oh yeah Joe?

  • @craigsentme
    @craigsentme Před 2 lety +2

    “It’s called a 24/7 or summin like that.”
    I knew what he meant.. 360 deal. They are the devil.

  • @justis4143
    @justis4143 Před 2 lety

    3:55 deep

  • @billw8648
    @billw8648 Před 2 lety

    Zappa would be proud of you Steven!

  • @Dee___Jayyyy
    @Dee___Jayyyy Před 6 lety +2

    A lot of young artists these days get stuck in 360 deals 👎

  • @laurelwild735
    @laurelwild735 Před rokem

    I only buy music from Apple. I believe the artists should be paid for their work 100%

  • @Twinklez63
    @Twinklez63 Před 3 lety

    So many artists in the 50s 60s and 70s got royally screwed $$. You'd be surprised how many barely get by...

  • @Dr.Octogon
    @Dr.Octogon Před rokem

    Isn’t joe on Spotify?

    • @SnowBalling
      @SnowBalling Před rokem

      This clip was before the Spotify deal.

  • @danielsprague6921
    @danielsprague6921 Před rokem

    This ages funny with the Spotify comment

  • @ericcross7863
    @ericcross7863 Před 3 lety

    That's why you don't sign anything without you owning your own publishing rights.

  • @Acebush99
    @Acebush99 Před 6 lety +1

    "Fuck all this sick swinging contest. We all gon be dead in 100 years. Let the kids have the music." - Ye

  • @robjacobson7041
    @robjacobson7041 Před 6 lety

    Google says smoke robinson's net worth is $100 million. I think he could afford the legal fees

  • @camronmiles4810
    @camronmiles4810 Před 6 lety +1

    Joe “I’m not a reptilian overlord, but how do I know you aren’t one?” Rogan

  • @badbardsnetwork9100
    @badbardsnetwork9100 Před 2 lety

    5:10 this aged like real milk

  • @JB-cs4jt
    @JB-cs4jt Před 2 lety

    Funny how Joe talks about Spotify here.

  • @Tesla_ofthe_Skies
    @Tesla_ofthe_Skies Před 3 lety

    Cant blame Jay for saying this and taking the $100Mil bc he actually got/is getting paid a stupid amount which changed the game for all “artist” on digital platforms, let alone what he did for podcasters!

  • @boysagainstdepression
    @boysagainstdepression Před měsícem

    Streaming & Record labels absolutely killed music but the audience is to blame partly as well. Music was never supposed to be "readily available for free".

  • @AbCDef-zs6uj
    @AbCDef-zs6uj Před 5 lety +8

    Steven Tyler and Russell Brand would make a cute lesbian couple

  • @IntegrationalEdu
    @IntegrationalEdu Před 3 lety +1

    Stephen: "beautiful blonde lawyer...she's smart, she's my lawyer..." Dude we're not in the 80's anymore.

  • @craigsentme
    @craigsentme Před 2 lety

    Haha! Joe totally bashes Spotify in this cast. My, how 3 years can change things.

  • @pepp5150
    @pepp5150 Před 3 lety

    Where’s Joe. now...?????

  • @lucveasman9488
    @lucveasman9488 Před rokem

    they rethunked it

  • @eavitale055
    @eavitale055 Před 6 lety

    As good an idea as this is, this will never happen. If it is digital, it is free. It has been this was since the advent of the CD & the computer.

  • @benzracer9
    @benzracer9 Před 6 lety +1

    Hmmmm,curious to see steven tyler so concerned about other artists getting credit.....
    Isn't this the same guy that would unplug equipment from opening acts if the crowd was too enthusiastic about them?

    • @fbi6555
      @fbi6555 Před 3 lety

      I don’t think I can think of a single artist I know that hasn’t at some point pulled some extreme shady stuff tbh, but I do see your point.

  • @nywherebuthere
    @nywherebuthere Před 8 měsíci

    Joe 'i constantly interrupt guests' Rogan

  • @jacobarps5254
    @jacobarps5254 Před 3 lety +1

    So funny joe rogan said that about Spotify who would have known

    • @LukePiala
      @LukePiala Před 3 lety

      100 mil is a great motivator

  • @rachaeldjordjevic5415
    @rachaeldjordjevic5415 Před 3 lety +4

    Shut-up Joe let Steven do the talking

  • @Zwenn
    @Zwenn Před 3 lety +1

    Dude he went to Spotify

  • @thelolguy007
    @thelolguy007 Před 6 lety

    The problem is the whole streaming platform. It’s an insult to the artist.

  • @BarriersDestroyed
    @BarriersDestroyed Před měsícem

    Gee i hope they don't come after me for recording songs off the radio with a cassette tape back in the 80s lol.

  • @sjdhgydhfyrn1023
    @sjdhgydhfyrn1023 Před 2 lety +1

    “David Israelite.” I wonder what his ethnicity is.

  • @DeLuca101
    @DeLuca101 Před 27 dny

    Joe let him just tell it

  • @drebatista
    @drebatista Před 3 lety

    5:10 say what?

  • @ethon711
    @ethon711 Před 4 lety

    5:10

  • @DaveTomahawk
    @DaveTomahawk Před 3 lety +1

    smokey robinson worth like 100 million

  • @josephcamilletti6955
    @josephcamilletti6955 Před 3 lety +3

    This didn’t age well.....

  • @nicholasrosebush6182
    @nicholasrosebush6182 Před 4 měsíci

    One of the things that pisses me off about Aerosmith/Steven Tyler is they always focus on Joe Perry, who is overrated in my opinion. Brad Whitford is the better guitar player in the band hands down.

  • @shandonsahm3343
    @shandonsahm3343 Před 5 dny

    Didn't Spotify give Joe.. 100 mill.?? ..😂

  • @nywherebuthere
    @nywherebuthere Před 8 měsíci

    How the hell did Liv come from that!

  • @cj4664
    @cj4664 Před 2 lety +1

    Joe let the man talk ! You interrupt a lot of good stuff

  • @andrewjaman4697
    @andrewjaman4697 Před 2 lety +1

    How the hell DO you make it in the music business? It seems like you, the artist, need to do everything yourself...

  • @durdevdan6947
    @durdevdan6947 Před 2 lety

    as one of many poor 80's kids growing up in eastern europe I didn't have neither the means nor the money to legaly buy Aerosmith's music. If there were no P2P Networks I would have never found out how much Aerosmith sucks!

  • @cabo7907
    @cabo7907 Před 6 lety

    Like you never used , stole inspiration, or parts of earlier artists lyrics. Why don't you pay them a piece of the pie?