5 Reasons Why I Bought The SIGMA fp L in 2023!
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- čas přidán 10. 04. 2023
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Today we are talking about why I purchased the SIGMA fp L and how it compares to the original fp, which I love! I think the results may surprise you..
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What is your potential camera of the year for 2023?
Lumix S5iix, perfect companion!
@@sixfoot6films I’m excited for that one for sure. Don’t know if I will buy it, but it has my attention
@@Ansonandco for me it has sooo many options and now I can take long exposure nocturnal pics at 96MGpxl....love it. Will always love my FP, but only for the highest end drama shoot.
@@sixfoot6films damn can’t argue with 96mpx hahaha I feel like there two different vibes with these cameras. Lumix offers the “Sony or canon experience” while SIGMA offers the “Leica experience” they are meant for two different purposes and they are great both at those purposes as well.
I just got the Sigma FP used, like new! I was originally looking at the S5 II but the sigma hits more of the boxes for what I'm personally looking for and I still kept my original S5. :)
Thanks for your purchase, the great video and your support overall ! Hope you enjoy the journey with fp L !
Of course! I’m pumped to showcase how good this camera is ❤️
Mattias I love your infectious positivity when it comes to your videos. I don't think I've ever heard you speak harshly about any camera. You seem to able to find the good in just about all of them. What a wonderful outlook on life to have.
Thanks so much! I try to keep things positive. It doesn’t always happen, but I try hahaha thanks for the support!
Thanks nice review , I've owned many Sigma cameras and they all have been brilliant and somewhat annoying at the same time :) The SD Quattro was a beast of a camera .. BTW love the Kupari picture, I walked to the site a few years back from Mlini and got some great shots. It was a strange feeling as went there in 1972 as a child . Thanks
Excellent photos. The Sigma FP L gives a lot of resolution. A lot of people talk about the crop-ability of so many MPx (and I agree), but few appreciate that if you downsize the images to 50% they really do pop, and you can easily do that with the fpL. Only thing you need manage is electronic shutter with so many MPx. That is also why the original FP is nice for photography.
It is true, the bigger sensor isn’t all good things. It’s a lot of good things but it does have its drawbacks
Also thanks! Glad you liked the photos
Just found your channel -- friggin love your aesthetic and the vibe, plus the content is fantastic. Keep killing it 💪
Thanks so much!
Those shots look great man. I am glad you had a good trip with great results. Sigma FP L for the win
Thanks! Fp L for the win indeed!
Great shots of your vaca!
Thanks!
Thanks for your video ! you make me think again to consider fp L to be my everyday camera in my bag.
🤔 also love your name!
Loved your pictures, thought I was on vacation with Les. Elinors hair is so long. I thought the man was Patrick until I remembered you had a friend coming along, I did see Patrick. Everyone seemed relaxed having fun. I love you, son- mom
I guess I did have a clip or two with Patrick… but yes everyone had a fantastic time! Love you too mom!
Just got one two weeks ago. Couldn’t be happier. A solid plus is the form factor. The size does matter !
It really does!
I just recently purchased my PF L; I love the color and the different build in aspect ratios.
I’ve decided to buy an fp L and it surprises me that almost all reviews and post for this camera are 2 or 3 years old. Why is it that almost nobody mentions this camera anymore?
It flopped on CZcams reviews initially and so it got written off. It’s a niche camera. CZcams reviewers are bad at showcasing niche cameras
damn dude, i love your visuals
black, minimalistic and with clear and easy editing. Deserved like👍
Thanks so much!
The in-camera crop sounds awesome.
It makes things SUPER convenient for sure
Nice to see Croatia in a camera review :)
I bought the Sigma FP a few weeks ago when it was 1300 bucks new. They had a special for a few weeks. I totally love it. Thanks for the content you provide. Im a new subscriber. Im still getting used to the camera but so far so great! Im also very familiar with cameras like BMPCC 6K , Canon C70, Fuji XT4 and many more. Im now saving up for the Sigma DG DN lens.
sigma dg dn - only if you want to take pictures with fp For video, in most cases, something else is better.
Awesome! Welcome to the community #fpFam!
Sigma cine? 😉
@@Ansonandco, No, I do not see the point in sigma cinema because of the cost and lack of experience with them. Of the modern ones, I really like Laowa optics, including those seen in Hollywood :), as well as old Nikon optics, and manual Soviet optics. These lenses have the necessary properties for video, well-corrected distortion and chromaticity, and a high-quality linear focus drive. Accordingly, the result in raw is immediately acceptable, requiring no geometric adjustments...
Good price for sure. I bought a kit, which came with the viewfinder, and the sigma 45mm contemporary lens for 1700, a killer deal. Enjoy!
Great video. The pictures look beautiful. Don't know if you mentioned it but what lenses were you using in this video?
Fully agree. Having both and since I have the FPL, I never touched the FP anymore. Might even sell it. But I am more photo oriented
Nice! Yeah that part didn’t make the cut, but the fp is still my main camera for video work. The smaller sensor helps with things like aliasing and moire, but the fp L is very good at video and AMAZING at photos, so it’s easily my go to minimalist set up.
How much bro
@@A1Bokeh new it’s $2500 but you can easily find it used. I got mine under $2k
After watching many of your videos about FP I purchased an FP, but after having seen it and held it in my hand for a few minutes I realized I made a mistake. I returned the FP and got the FP-L for exactly the reasons you described. There is no other FF camera in this form factor with 61 MP. As a few have mentioned, the lack of mechanical shutter is the only issue, but other than that there's no other camera that has the features I want/need - small being at the top of the list. I primarily use it with adapted m-mount glasses and I couldn't be happier. I currently have Voigtlander 40mm f1.2 glued to it, and it's everything I've ever hoped for minus fast action shots. If I'm out on a more serious photo shoot, I'll put the EVF on it, but most of the time it's just a manual glass on FP-L in my pocket that btw gives me the option to get some stupidly large prints if I ever want to. I've shot some videos with it, but for me I only see it being used mounted on a tripod or gimbal. I don't worry about AF because I only intend use manual lenses. I just recently got the Lumix S5iiX. Now, that does everything else that Sigma can't do well enough for me. I'm all set with just these two cameras. Got rid of all my Canon RF system and glasses and I still have some leftover to shop for more glasses.
This is fantastic! I LOVE The combo of the fp / fp L with the lumix s5iix. It’s freakin fantastic. I need to try the voitlanders but I do love the single shot AF on the fp L. I M fully in support of this comment lol
@@Ansonandco If someone made a camera incorporating the best features of fp L and S5iiX, I'd call that my perfect camera. Until then, this combo will suit me just fine. I sold my older Voigtlanders, but kept VM 28mm f2, 40mm f1.2 and 75mm f1.5. OMG, fpL is my dream come true for these manual M mount glasses. Relatively inexpensive for really high quality lenses. You ought to try some. I don't know why, but that combo of 3 primes just works for me. Great for low light shooting and you could fit all three lenses on the other pocket.
@@unclemets5359 Nice to here! I got the S5iiX a month and a bit ago; love it! I have been looking at something more compact to use a little more incognito with a prime lens so that I can do more street photography etc. I like this because it's full frame and I ca use my L-mount lenses. I wonder, is it ok using it without the EVF? I would prefer something more compact so would be keen to get it without the EVF.
I'm not a big street photography guy, but I've used manual wide angle primes on FP/L without EVF and it's a blast. It's so small and looks like one of those point and shoot cameras that people are generally oblivious to it. With colder weather, I can literally just put in my coat pocket and walk around with it. Doesn't get much better than this for me. Hope it works for you as well!@@belema22
Thinking about grabbing one but i have the SD Quattro Foveon sensor, & an R5 . I do like that there's adapters for EF & SA mount lenses, which I have a few of each.
That charging aspect is a great add! Great job, man. Let's keep the Sigma Fp line alive!!! 🔥🔥🔥
It really is! Also that is the plan, im pretty sure this video is an official double down on the FP line 😉 hahaha
@@Ansonandco I think I've found the perfect camera for my needs, with the Fp ♥️ put it on a small gimbal and you could do anything you want with it.
@@ansenvideoproduction absolutely! I said in another comment… the OG fp is still my A cam for video work for sure. But I’m not sad to have this camera in my kit as well
@@ansenvideoproduction also I feel like you and I should be friends with our similar names 😉
@@Ansonandco I didn't realize they sounded so similar 😂 well you've got a new friend
Both the FP and FP L are total beasts. I have the FP for the video and its one of my fav cameras ever.
Agreed! The fp is still my rigged up studio cam and my A cam for video work as it has a faster readout speed
Show me the best video for Sigma FPL.
I really love the stills out of the Sigma fp. Almost always have the kit 45mm on for capturing everyday life. Tough for me to justify also getting the L model now. Maybe if the price drops some more. Would love to see an iteration on the fp line and what comes of the Foveon sensor development.
The price 100% needs to come down. It may be because there is no camera coming up to replace it, they are not in a rush to clear the shelves of a previous model.
@@Ansonandco Makes sense. It was some time before the fp came down in price. Then suddenly a couple of times more and the L came out. I gave up waiting for a sale on the Ricoh GRIII and got it in time for a trip. The cost of supporting niche products. Maybe need a shopping trip to Japan and make our own sale with the current exchange rate 😅
Hi,how do you protect Fp screen,I always worried that it can easily break 😅
@@Ethan-mf9kf I put a glass screen protector on it to avoid scratches. The screen protector occasionally gets chipped on the side since it is about 1mm thick and on top of the screen/body. Once broke the protector when the fp accidentally got hit against the body of a vintage camera but fp screen was fine.
you making me want this camera.
Who is that handsome bearded guy on the photos and video samples? I need to know 😉
Do it! Do it! Do it! We can be brethren again.
Dude I know right?! Yes very tall 😍
Our GOAT Senior, Cole, seamlessly switched between the FP with a kit 45MM C and this FP L with a 35mm 1.4 A (for his Thesis Film) "Unmet Needs" - tried to talk him out of that title - and they both hold up incredibly well - the whole FP family is baller! Great review. Also, his GOAT title is self-assigned.
😂 this is awesome! Appreciate the love ❤️ this line is absolutely killer for sure. It’s why I love it so much!
THE GOAT!!!
@@colepatterson5651 lol I love it!
Kings landing! I love Dubrovnic. !!
Yes!!! Absolutely beautiful town
Hey Anson, how are you liking your fpL? Reason I ask is, I also decided to order one. I already have the fp, but like you, I am digging shooting stills now. So, how are you liking it now that you’ve had it for a while?
For stills the fp does not compare, primarily for the resolution and faster single shot AF. Also cause the AF is decently accurate. If I were doing a photo job, I would go fp L all day, video I would stay with fp
I see you've been in Dubrovnik;)
Yes! Beautiful area
I tried to buy two Sigma's FP for an upcoming project. No one had the camera in Canada, and I found out it is now discontinued.
The fp is in no way discontinued. It may not be available in Canada, but they are very much still producing FP bodies
S1Hii for me
That would be dope!
but size and price??
I still haven't found a camera that can top the Sigma fp... I just wish they had incorporated 6K readout of the sensor and super sampled [edit: not sure if super sampling works in RAW actually...] 4K 60fps... and a proper log curve. Then it would be the perfect camera.
Agreed!
I am considering the Sigma FP For my next cinema cam. My only concern is recording audio from multiple sources. How is the audio recording workflow on the FP?
You should check out my latest rig tour. I have a zoom f3 on my rig that feeds right into the FP. And it is baked into my footage. My last 4 months of CZcams videos have all been that set up
@@Ansonandco great to hear! I’ll check it out 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@flochfitness ✌🏻
dude you were in my hometown
It is a gorgeous location! Would love to go back sometime
Do you have anything more you can say about the fp-L phase detect? It seems everyone assumes the coming S5iix may be a complimentary camera to the fp, but I worry it won’t compare in image quality to my fp. On certain projects I need reliable autofocus. Is the fp-L still hit and miss for video? Cheers
For single shot it’s great, for AF-C it’s very sub par. That said I will be picking up an s5ii x for when I do need AF. But I do not plan to try and match them. BUT I do think you can get them to match. Does the s5ii have the same image quality? I don’t think so, but you can make them work
@@Ansonandco Thanks for the advice. I do need the cameras to match the fp so I'm curious to see if I can do that when my S5iix arrives.
I really want to buy this camera, but right now, even used it's too expensive for a stills shooter. With an EVF, it's basically the same price as an a7r4, with whom it shares a sensor. and used it sells for about the same as the a7r3, which is a much better stills camera in every way except resolution. Hopefully in a few more years the prices will come down a bit more to where it can make sense for someone not interested in video, because it is a really interesting camera. I have a strong feeling that before that happens it will start to become one of the best value cameras for filmmakers trying to do an upgrade but maybe not to full fledged cinema camera
It’s definitely got a weird pricing to it. But considering it does have better AF and that much larger sensor than the fp, I can kinda see how they priced it. But definitely, hopefully it will come down in price on the used market for sure
Does it still not have 4k60? If so i dont see any reason to buy it. The basics have to be covered
👏🏻
Chose the Sigma FP over the FP-L for full-frame slow-mo without cropping and a more affordable price. Using 4K CDNG with an SSD via USB-C, I need an external battery for longer shoots. While the FP-L can charge via USB-C, the FP can't, also other things doesn't bother me. 💪🎥
FP is still a beast camera, still own it, still is my primary video camera. So great call!
@@Ansonandco The original FP is used / Like New right now for like $1100. Seriously thinking about it.
Hello, please, does the Sigma FP-L also have such artifacts in the slowmo 1080 image? same as FP ? (skipping lines) In the examples in this video, it seems to me that I don't see any ugly artifacts during slowmo?
It didn’t because I tend to shoot with those artifacts in mind. So I try not to shoot textures that would make it worse. That said IMO I think the aliasing and moire is worse than the original fp
Are there any rumours about the release of the new Sigma FP mark 2, by any chance? :)
Not that I know of
for what reason? firmware updates are continuously improving the proven concept... a next gen F? would be a different camera, hardware related
Just dug out my SD Quattro and thought, if one could mount the EVF from the SD somehow to the FPL.... just dreaming. I mean I have the big chunky EVF for the FP, but its big and chunky :D
Between the FP/L and fuji XH2S which would be the go to for commercial videography and personal video projects?
Do you need to shoot raw?
@@Ansonandco presumably, I don't shoot client video atm but it'd be useful to know how to grade properly but also I like how funj allows you setup a more streamlined "grading" work flow
@@cine-ish if you want to grade uncompressed raw then fp L but if you want more modern tech then xh2s
but what if you don't THE best of the best giant file size raw files? but 4k, 10 or 12 bitrate, 4:2:2. ? can one shoot with a little less high mb-count? I like cinematic shots with as high a dynamic range as possible. I like it to be small so I can take it with me, maybe even hiking. I like to shoot a lot of different stuff. What route does one take for high dynamic range with more battery and a little less storage? like, not 2gb a second. but 300mb/s or so?
Form factor…. Combined with Contemporary Lenses - MFT size with 61mp sensor and industry leading price points.
All of the above 🙌🏻!
i wait for simga ff foveon )))
That is the dream!
It also seems like it performs better in the higlights compared to its predecessor. However for my personal use I`d rather go for the Lumix S5 mk2(x).
Interesting… I may have to investigate further into the highlight roll off. I do like the lumix s5 ii, but I will say I was shooting circles around Pav with the FP… until we need to film ourselves, and then he obviously was shooting circles around me with the superior AF
@@Ansonandco Cined made a review about it. But as far as I understand it should have a bit more DR but not much. If the rumors are then there might be some more intresting stuff coming out for the L mount. Hinting at a potential s1hmk2 . So at the moment it doesnt make much sense to invest in new cameras.
@@Ansonandco What do you mean shooting circles around him
@@A1Bokeh switching between photos and video on the s5ii was clunky, meanwhile I just flipped the switch and kept shooting. That’s just one example
@@Ansonandco you guys should do a video on how photos from each camera came out
I have 2 FPs and an S1H and some older Nikon DSLR... but I want an FP L.
I support this decision 😉
Secret Pav!
Yes! Always love a secret dash of Pav in my videos
Hope Sigma fp can have a new version has 4K 60p
Maybe, I’ve kinda given up hope on it. That said I talked to a couple of lumix people that said they still shoot slo mo in 1080 cause of the crop, so is it really a make or break?
The only downside to the Sigma fp L compared to the original Sigma fp, seems to be poorer LOW LIGHT performance. Similar to comparing a Sony A7SII(12.2MP)to a Sony A7RII(42MP), the A7SII has less megapixels but, those megapixels being larger, collect more light than the megapixels on the A7RII.
I need to do a comparison, I’ll be honest I’ve been shooting almost all my reviews lately with the fp L and I have not noticed a huge loss in low light between the two
the seems to be a myth, look at some comparisons - there is not much more noise with 61 mp than with 24...
I mean. I shoot sony for stills but ever since I got the new X-T5, I’ve been messing with film sims and doing SOOC so Sony is left collecting dust. Now seeing this small camera is great for both video and stills I’m gonna use it mainly for video. Just gotta sell the whole Sony kit and save up for a good prime for b rolls.
What focal length do you normally use for b roll?
@@Ansonandco never done b roll but I always like the look of 35mm or my 50mm does for my street photography.
Why not the lumix S5 II ?
I was waiting for the X
Can I use it for church livestreaming
Yes
@@Ansonandco thank you very much
what a Boss photo at the end Anson 😂 love it ! stop posting Sigma FP content man, your making me want one, really ! 😂 jk!
Lol right? I was like “I have to put this in the video!” Hahaha
Hey man I’m just existing, with possibly best camera under $2.5k… 😉hahaha
@@Ansonandco hahaha lol nice nice, I see what you’re doing 👌🏻😂 if I do go for one, I feel it would be the FP not the L, I’ve been eyeing it for a while now, I love compact cameras.
@@AndyLSB dude you know I’m not gonna say you shouldn’t 😉
@@Ansonandco lol yeah I know hahaha 👌🏻😂
Wait wait I need to ask ,is that Montenegro or Croatia on video? Ok it's Croatia,you can't miss that Oźujsko beer sign 🙂.
Croatia! My buddy went to Montenegro while we were there but we did not join him 😢
@@Ansonandcoam from Croatia ( Zagreb ) but working in Germany 🙂.
@@chwelio_jr that’s awesome! We stayed in Dubrovnik for the week. VERY beautiful country
@@Ansonandco thank you ,am really happy that you enjoyed your time. You need to come at summer🙂
Самое главное ее достоинство это цвет. Более корректный по сравнению с фп.
Watch in x1.25
My videos are already crazy short hahaha
I still want it, but the AF is mine concerns…
I love the higher MP, but the rolling shutter sensor speed is slower then the FP is self.
Hope Sigma will make a new line up.
have you shot with the fp L and tested the rolling shutter. it's really not any worse than something like the bmpcc 6k pro. its really not crazy worse than the OG fp.
@@Ansonandco
No i did not test the fp-l version for the rolling shutter, but i saw many reviews where they showing it. And i like more full frame sensors,compared to the blackmagic. Plus the 12bit that's amazing! However the Raw file is only compressed, and there is not uncompressed Raw, correct me if I'm wrong. There's no ability to edit the file on Final Cut pro.
I wanna rent this camera for CZcams views.
That’s how I feel about lumix cameras now lol
BHphoto blowing these out at $1699. Yes the new L.
REALLY? I just looked they are still 2499… I think you may be seeing the original FP
@@Ansonandco - nope. It's even out of stock now because of the fire sale
@@8020Alive you sure it’s B&H, I literally have the page pulled up right now and it definitely says $2499. Maybe it was on sale, but definitely is not any longer
@@Ansonandco - yes you missed the sale correct.
Die Grundausstattung ist einfach zu teuer, man braucht ja noch einiges Zubehör und das ist nochmals teuer, dann ist es nicht mehr günstig und klein, was bleibt also übrig vom Hype? der Sensor, kein klappdisplay ist schlecht.
Dont buy camera .this cam's color profile worst .don't waste ur money
Personal preference?
so much vignetting... every photo is laden with vignetting.... is that intentional?
Dumb
sad day. whomp whomp
…and the months later two hour video “why I sold the fpl”.
youtubers are such a joke, jfc.
Never worth the money just a expensive gimmick
This camera or blackmagic 6k pro? To many cameras these days 🫠
What are you shooting?