Lost at sea: Ecological assessment around a sunken shipping container
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- Thousands of shipping containers are lost from cargo vessels each year. Many of these containers eventually sink to the deep seafloor. In 2004, researchers at the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute (MBARI) discovered a lost shipping container almost 1,300 meters (4,200 feet) below the surface of the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary. In the first ever survey of its kind, researchers from MBARI and the Sanctuary recently described how deep-sea animal communities on and around the container differed from those in surrounding areas.
The red dots seen in some of the underwater footage are lasers mounted on the remotely operated submersible. The lasers are 29 cm apart and allow the scientists to estimate animal size.
Video editor: Kyra Schlining
Script and narration: Josi Taylor
Production support: James Barry, Kim Fulton-Bennett, Linda Kuhnz, Lonny Lundsten, Nancy Jacobsen Stout, Susan vonThun
For more information visit:
MBARI press release:
www.mbari.org/news/news_releas...
Original publication:
Taylor, J.R., DeVogelaere, A.P., Burton, E.J., Frey, O., Lundsten, L., Kuhnz, L.A., Whaling, P.J., Lovera, C., Buck, K.R., Barry J.P. (2014) Deep-sea faunal communities associated with a lost intermodal shipping container in the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary, CA. Marine Pollution Bulletin
dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.marpolbul...
Special thanks to Yann Arthus-Bertrand and Michael Pitiot (PLANET OCEAN/HOPE PRODUCTION) for the beautiful aerial container footage.
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It's remarkable how well the container is holding up after 7 years underwater.
It's made from rust resistant corten steel.
The zinc based paint probably helps.
Oxidation is slowed lacking oxygen.
No, no it's not. It's cold rolled steel coated in paint and a corrosion resistant coating and it's not even been a decade...
So I doubt anybody would expect it to be altered at all after such a time... saltwater is corrosive but it takes some time... it ain't acid
Lack of oxygen anything will look good for a very long time!!
This container contains steel belted tires for anyone who is wondering what's inside.
Thanks, was wondering......
But Don't seem to be very good at clearing excess surface water, might suggest a set of Avon's or Continentals, better water clearing 🤣👌
How do you know that?
A new brand called micheswim 😆
@@japreet_kah They said it in one of the comments
Are they BFG 265-75r16's ??
It's been 8 years since this came out, I wanna know how the container is doing
Got married and had 2 kids.
@@berrytharp1334 ❤
Heard he just pass his entrance exams, he’s going to Yale
Same
I smoked a Fat BowL with his old lady and him they good folk
Shipping containers with more hazardous contents are shipped on a part of the ship that would be impossible for those containers to fall off. The containers that are stacked the highest and end up falling off have things like clothing, shoes, and other materials that are very low on the toxicity scale compared to the content of the other containers. Refrigerated and sensitive cargo containers are shipped inside the belly of the ships to where it is impossible for them to simply tip and fall off during a storm or other dangerous event. So it is very highly unlikely that this container or any others on the ocean floor have hazardous or extremely toxic materials inside. Just as the narrator said, it is the paint on the container that is the concern.
+Al Scarbrough Do you know if these containers have a built-in vent so they will sink if they do end up in the water? My biggest fear as a sailor of the oceans is hitting one. There are known containers still floating which have had numerous beacons, neon flags and other things attached by boaties to help others avoid them.
+Marina Batham That's actually a suspected cause of several small vessel losses. Sometimes the containers can be just literally awash, depending on the content. Hit one mid ocean with a fibreglass hull in a yacht or similar and it's game over.
+Choppington Otter I know the containers need to be air-tight to ensure their product gets transported safely, but I think they should put a pressure valve that pops upon dropping in the ocean. I'm sure they submerge 10 or 15 feet when falling off a ship, which should be enough to trigger it. Life rafts inflate upon hitting the water, which is triggered by a co2 cartridge or something similar.
+Marina Batham The containers themselves are not air tight. The items they contain might give the container buoyancy.
+Ronn Folk Thank you. That gives me more peace of mind. I know of a container near Fiji that was covered in old lights, flags and other identifying items still floating in the pacific. Obviously many yachts had passed it by, much to their horror.
Please do more videos like this! So interesting!
The real problem with lost containers is the the ones that don’t sink, many small boats have been damaged or lost due to collision with them.
Shipping company: lost cargo
Sea floor: it's free real estate
Everything is free real state in the wild.
It's got a pool in the back...
Make recovery possible again, mates! Steel cables will help that!!
While everyone is curious by whats inside the container, i just wondered how the container lay by its corner without tipping over, for years
It sits on its edge and corner like that because it landed that way with enough force to sink into the soft bottom, and now the bottom supports it at that angle.
😝😂
@Michel rood bruh, you're not even fully watch the video
@@rmdhndwi who is Michel rood?
@@ReubenWalton some stupid comments, the comment is gone, maybe deleted
Quite interesting. I worked on a pearl farm in the south pacific a long time ago. The pearl oysters are strung on cables suspended about 50ft underwater in the middle of an atoll's lagoon. The oysters have to be scraped clean every 6 months due to all the marine life developing on any surface it can find. I would have expected the containers to provide the same support, but perhaps there is a toxicity component to this.
Maybe the paint has something to do with iy
Perhaps its the depth and distance from shore or other coral areas that accounts for it or simply time as the narrator pointed out.
Who cares. Nobody
@@hotdog7346 you care enough to post a mean reply
First off it was covered and secondly its because it's steel how is that not obvious?
I just wanted to see what's inside of it
The tracking numbers on the containers made it so we could find out what is in the container. This one contains steel belted tires. Removal of containers from the deep sea would be very difficult and expensive. There are groups working on getting better systems for lashing down the containers, which would help prevent future containers from being lost at sea. Read more about it here www.mbari.org/news/news_releases/2014/container-animals/container-animals-release.html
Oh okay
They got the concordia afloat...it would be a breeze to get this container off the ocean floor
+Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute (MBARI)
Would opening it expose more surfaces to wildlife in any substantial way, as I believe many species make use of the spaces inside of rock formations? Maybe that would increase the number of predator/prey relationships and lead to more diversity.
Same here
That was brilliant. Non biased. Well done
I'm pretty sure just about everyone is thinking the same thing watching this. WHAT IS INSIDE IT D:
Same here
+8codeman8 The shipping label on the container was said to have indicated that this container was loaded with a shipment of tires.
My Amazon shit! Mind your own!
The answer is 1,159 car tires. Read the news I found below,
"Four months later, scientists from the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute (MBARI) stumbled upon one of these containers (numbered TGHU7712262) sitting at a depth of 1,281 meters during a research dive using one of their remotely operated vehicles (ROVs). Time to investigate was limited by a busy cruise schedule, but they shot some quick video and recorded the location of the container. Following up on the container number revealed its cargo to be 1,159 steel-belted automobile tires"
8codeman8
I wonder whats in the container maybe one of my eBay orders that never showed up. lol
+KoolBreeze420 1000+ tires
It's definitely already been opened. Look at 3:55.
Could be they have stolen the content at the container
and dumped the container overboard, so insurance
can pay the receiver
macpower72 At least you got the joke unlike the others. lol
KoolBreeze420 steel belted tires
Very fascinating...and informative. Thank you for sharing!
This is where Harbor Freight gets its inventory
awesome footage, thanks for sharing!
so they found the container just after 4 months. and look at me, I found this video after *6 loooooong years* 😅
Barring toxic or contaminating contents, what is the harm of the container being on the seafloor? For decades we have scuttled ships to create artificial reefs - and I assume those ships have similar paint to the containers.
+Brian Folks Not really, after the war we've found more toxic or synthetic compounds to prevent ship corrosion. But you're right that it shouldn't be a harm normally. Artificial reefs is a great idea in my opinion.
+Brian Folks anything unnatural is obviously uncharted territory. On an empty seabed you're adding a massive metal structure... its a habitat more suited for different organisms and thus upsetting the balance of that ecosystem.
Depending on the cargo, the containers do not always sink. Many float just beneath the surface damaging unsuspecting small ships.
The ships that are scuttled usually go through paint removal first. At least the military ships anyway.
@@RaheelPervaiz123On the contrary I would argue that it is the quite literally the most positive impact our species has on the ocean (if not the whole planet since that isn’t all that common). The abyssal plain is a desert of sediment pounded into dust by the ocean. Many ecologists might protest me characterizing the abyssal plain as a “desert” but that’s exactly what it is. That’s the terrestrial ecosystem it shares the most in common with, and even if it’s more like the Sonora than the Atacama, a desert is still a desert. They are defined not so much by life but by its comparative absence. Compared to the abyssal plain, harder substrates of any kind, pretty much always have greater levels of diversity than the surrounding plain. It matters not where that substrate came from. All that being said, the problems begin when the newer “additions” leak oil or other problematic chemicals.
Josie, does what the container have inside affect the surrounding sea life at all? was it determined to be a non issue?
Why do almost 4K people dislike this beautifully made video???
Nice report, but wtf was in the container.
Ah, so that's why my 1,159 car tires I ordered never arrived.
(That is actually what is in the container, 1,159 car tires)
How u know?
@@robotfighter3124 it has a label on it
Must be really small car tyres.
@@gavindillon1486 Don't know if the label means everything. Could be full of Cheetos :)
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This video was too short; very calming and education at once.
Its been another 7 years. Would be cool to have another update video.
It would have been interesting to know what was the contents of the container, obviously fairly innocuous if not mentioned.
The tracking numbers on the containers made it so we could find out what is in the container. This one contains steel belted tires. Removal of containers from the deep sea would be very difficult and expensive. There are groups working on getting better systems for lashing down the containers, which would help prevent future containers from being lost at sea. Read more about it here www.mbari.org/news/news_releases/2014/container-animals/container-animals-release.html
MBARI Thank you so much for that extra info, I was pretty sure you could track the exact contents through the tag number on the container. Thank you for the link and all your great work at MBARI.
thomasg74
You're welcome!
Sæwelō Id assume the toxicity of the container is mainly the contents.
indeed it would have
It's been a Goodyear .Think I'll re -Tyre !
I was reading about shipping containers over the weekend and found this video. Estimated 1390 containers are lost at sea each year.
Fascinating. Thank you.
Very interesting! Related to this I highly recommend reading 'Into The Raging Sea', the true story of the ill-fated cargo ship the El Faro that headed straight into Hurricane Joaquin off San Salvador Island in the Bahamas and sank to 15,000 feet with 100's of shipping containers and automobiles aboard. All 33 crewmembers aboard perished. The book is based on black box recordings of all bridge conversations until the final moments. Additionally the author diligently adds context by delving into owners of the vessel and industry politics surrounding maritime shipping. I think measures can be taken through technology to ensure that some containers can be retrieved quickly, or at least send automatic GPS location so that we can track and evaluate the potential threat to the seafloor ecosystem based on the container contents. But check out the book!!!
GPS useless a the kind of depth this container was found at.
2:46 i
wish they would have mentioned what was inside the container. it also makes me wonder what impact "artificial" reefs" have on the environment despite our most sincere efforts to build habitat.
Wcb
Interesting upload, thanks for your work.
3:54
crab: back off! I was waiting for this Amazon delivery for years! 🤣
Delivery: a place to camouflage
Be interesting to pull it up in another 10 years and see if any organisms have colonized inside. For now, drill a small hole and do a Spectrochemical analysis of the water inside of the container to see what is leaching. Since there is a high stagnation state there, should get some pretty strong results. Working at Monterey bay would be a dream job. Deep ocean physics are fascinating.
Go do it, Mate! Work at MBA, I mean. Just go do it.
Well. At one point someone with the right equipment will start to pick these up one by one. And sell the shit on EBay.
Great times ahead!!
Tamás Nyapi it’s at a depth of 1,281 meters and it’s full of tires.
What if, upon opening one, they find illegals entombed in them containers?
Mick Carson it’s happened before at the ports and sadly it’s usually trafficking victims.
@@DoctorSess geez, really? Do you have a link to a news story, or are you a worker on the docks?
Very nice presentation and information! Subscribed!
Excellent footage !
The container in the video had more than a thousand Steel Belted Tires inside it. Just for anyone curious as to what the contents were.
Most containers are not filled up completely. I've seen containers that only had 9 bulk items in them. It's just cheaper to ship a container then air shipping. It cost a average of $1,300 one way to ship by cargo container.
XVIRUSTV --- tires? that's energy gone to waste. those old tires could be used to fuel a furnace at a cement factory 🤔
You can’t get a thousand tires into one of those, bud. Guess again.
@@davidlanham99 There's exactly 1,159 tires in it, all you gotta do is read.
@@carlspackler91 A 53' can only hold about 350 tires. And read what, btw?
I think my Airsoft from G&G is in there.
it's almost 7 years from the upload date, will you do another visit?
That was pretty fascinating
The slow colonization by local species may be in part due to the container being a relative newcomer and deep ocean species are relatively slow growing due to lower temperatures and fewer nutrients in the seawater T that depth.
what is in the container?
Steel belted tires
The tracking numbers on the containers made it so we could find out what is in the container. This one contains steel belted tires. Removal of containers from the deep sea would be very difficult and expensive. There are groups working on getting better systems for lashing down the containers, which would help prevent future containers from being lost at sea. Read more about it here www.mbari.org/news/news_releases/2014/container-animals/container-animals-release.html
Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute (MBARI) so they decided to leave the container down their to see how it effected its surrounding environment. Thats foul to let it poison another environment just to study it lol. I wouldnt drink the surrounding water as im sure you all wouldn't either so why study that. thats like a child dropping mattel cars in a fish tank to see what happens.
rust debris is clearly in the water and will continue to decay for eternity.
its about a kilometer deep in the water niqqa, you think its that easy to went underwater and snatch a several ton metal box intact? Just take it as an example to help ease such disaster in the future.
it's good these things hold up so well. future archaeologists will be able to study the contents and analyze our civilization as it truly was. neat :)
What life may be expected inside the container? Or would that pose too much of a threat by the increased surface area of all the tires?
It's got 26tons of nitrate for farming inside 👍
I just wanted to know what was in the container
Tires
@@koltencruz2817 over a thousand, to be more precise
I have always asked myself why the shipping vessels do not have some kind of barriers or protection at the side, in order to prevent containers to possibly fall laterally.
@O.G Autistler balderdash! Just grab em from above by crane.
Seems like a small fee on each container shipped could core recovery of lost containers. Big metal box con be hoisted up with magnetic equipment.
Wow. Never knew we had lost containers in our own backyard.
there's also 25000 barrels of DDT off the coast of LA.
the containers in the cargo are not financially feasible to recover from the depths. however the responsibility that falls on mankind for the stewardship of the ocean should dictate that they be recovered anyway, if there is an ecological reason to. Good on the research at Monterey bay.
True. What they should do though, is put the 1159 used tires back around that container.. used tires are inside, and 1150 tires can make a REALLY good artificial reef for even more fish and sealife around that container.. that would be economically legit to do.
Her voice is sooo relaxing!
GOOD FOR YOU!
Yeah but what is in it?
The tracking numbers on the containers made it so we could find out what is in the container. This one contains steel belted tires. Removal of containers from the deep sea would be very difficult and expensive. There are groups working on getting better systems for lashing down the containers, which would help prevent future containers from being lost at sea. Read more about it here www.mbari.org/news/news_releases/2014/container-animals/container-animals-release.html
What species are the crabs at 3:39? I've never seen a crab like them and, trust me, I know my crabs.
These are Lithodes couesi dsg.mbari.org/dsg/view/concept/Lithodes%20couesi
Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute (MBARI) Thank you very much.
Great video.
It was posted 6 years ago. Does anyone know where I can find the results of this study??
Or something about it...
UGH! I WANNA SEE WHAT'S INSIDE!!
Tires
А когда его будут поднимать, хотелось посмотреть что внутри 👍
The real question here is why aren't shipping companies held responsible for the contamination, pollution and recovery of these containers.
Because no reputable marine ecologist would claim that all artificial reefs are “pollution,” and that’s what this effectively is.
I thought that it looked like quite a good community on the container, considering it had only been there for four months, and I have seen what those perfectly prepared boats/ships look like, after a similar time period in the shallows, where there’s a lot more life that can inhabit something that rises up from the sea floor like that.!.!.!.
I did wonder, which way the water runs down there, because if it was running from one side to the other, then the whole length would have a lee side(or both sides will be the lee side when the tide changes, if that happens down that deep), which is not as good for laying eggs on, because it cuts down the amount of water that runs over it, but if the water runs down the length of it, then it should end up with a uniform amount of life living over most of it, but there’s a lot of slow growing, long lived sponges that will take their time to grow, if they can find the right place to live on it.!.!.!.!.
My issue is why are there shippng routes across a marine sanctuary
Marine Sanctuaries typically don't prohibit all activities within them. There are lots of stakeholders and users (commercial, recreational, fishing) that may be restricted, but not prohibited. You can learn more here: montereybay.noaa.gov
MBARI
Yup. Recreational fishermen are definitely more of a danger to wildlife than "accidental" garbage or oilspills. Remember corporations>people! ;)
+LoverDino >Recreational fishermen are definitely more of a danger to wildlife than "accidental" garbage or oilspills.
Do you seriously think this or expect others too? Take a good look at Valdez and the Deepwater events. Recreational fishermen pay alot of money to fish, compared to commercial or damage from spills and that money maintains areas like this. Not to mention a HazMat route is for Hazardous Materials. It's all good until a drum of solvent starts to leak or many.
*****
I was being sarcastic mate. People like to blame recreational fisherman but never look at the real problems like polllution (MLPA allows pollution but bans regular fishing, what a joke) and MLPA is also headed by someone who was a previous Oil Chairman.
Gotcha lol. If people really knew why the Samoans turned to piracy they would be shocked. It had alot to do with barrels of radioactive waste being dumped off their beaches. Then the crap leaking and causing fetal deaths and deformations. It destroyed their fishing and lively hood. That's why they turned to piracy, after getting the run around from the global community.
Bodies, batteries, DOPE THE USUAL SUSPECTS
What is the oldest shipping container that has been found what where the affect if any
I wonder if we will get an update on the container
that's why I didn't get my item from eBay. it's lying on the bottem
Michel De Jong bottom
gaming Jehart sorry .. typing to fast
Ok. Its fine :)
My gosh what did you choose for your shipping option? LOL...I mean I get not paying for shipping, but damn hahahaha
jamie de jong eBay items are sent via airmail. Sea shipping is reserved for heavy bulk cargo.
Ten thousand containers lost per year sounds like a lot, but it averages out to less than one per thirty-six thousand square kilometers of sea floor. That's an area larger than the state of Massachusetts! Obviously the density is higher along shipping routes, but the overall ecological impact must be trivial compared to that from other sources of marine debris and pollution.
Nevertheless, this is fascinating research! I hope you are able to continue "checking up" on this container every few years to observe the long term changes.
So its been 9 years since this was made, any updates or returns to the shipping container since then?
Wow this video reminds me of research report presentation, well systematic
Edit: and it is really one of it
Now I know what happened to my hopes and dreams
@Gappie Al Kebabi 🛳 💨
This is actually how Mr. Krabs found the Krusty Krab😁😁
Waaaw, nice info with a lovely voice
Very very interesting! Thank you!
So.. Your NOT gonna tell us whats inside of the crate?
🆗🆒
_Dylan James2019_ car tires
1,159 tires.
Alright new idea. Cargo crate recovery buisness! As long as those crates withstand pressure what they are transporting is probably still worth a lot of money. And if they are reporting lost crates you could already have an idea of where they are at.
You'll spend more money on a recovery operation than you'd get from the typical contents of a single shipping container.
due to temperature Im ASSuming, I highly doubt its due to lack of oxygen but Im AMAZED at the condition of that box. 7 years on a ship and these things are rust buckets that you can stick your hand through. Kinda scarey that its holding up that good
The container is located about 4,200 feet deep. btw.
Those shipping containers will be time capsules for future archeologists.
Just as there are few ancient iron artifacts but plenty of bronze and copper artifacts due to corrosion. There will be little left of these containers for archaeologists of the future. The steel would've corroded away and sea life would've destroyed everything else. If it sinks into an hypoxic zone then maybe there will be something left for archaeologists to see.
they can be artificial corals so whats the problem unless there is something toxic in there i see no big deal
One problem is that depending on what's inside them, they don't all sink but float just beneath the surface. This causes havoc to any small ship that hits them. You can't see them on AIS, you can't see them on radar, you can't see them on sonar due to the clutter from the waves and they're difficult to spot visually by your watch. It's like hitting a steel iceberg.
Guy with many name Artificial corals? Wtf does that mean?
Kind of like to see one of these, wash up on a shore near me!
Could be a nice surprise inside, plus the container for storage!
any update on this ?! its been 8 years afterall!
If i could. I would loot the shit of out these containers :D
Yeah lmfao
Thank you. Great video. I had no idea that such a huge problem existed with container ships polluting our oceans. How about a Fifty thousand dollar penalty for each lost container.
Good built container. Well done engineers.
Lots and lots of treasures.
what's in the box 😭😭
Land O Calrissian ice cubes 😉😉😉
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The answer is 1159 car tires. Look it up, the owner of this video also proved this. Look up 'container TGHU7712262 contains tires' on a search if you want the facts
Gold
it's full of tires....research was being done to determine the effect it has on the sea life
Put a cable on it and pull it up! I bet it was full of made in China crap anyway.
The crap u and your mother buy.
You mean a 1250 meters reinforced steel cable? I don't think so....
Yeah, it's over 4000 feet deep soooooo... notsomuch
Im 99% sure whatever you used to type your ignorant comment was either fully or partly manufactured in China, ‘butch’
Like American flags?
Question is well that salvage that and scrap it or leave it there ? I wonder
I'd heard those containers are made of a copper alloyed steel, If it's the case I wonder if it has any effect on creatures setting up camp
But WHATS INSIDE! !!!!!
CBGB1994 how do you know?
CBGB1994 oh... boring
They are kidding, it was a bunch of PS2.
The answer is 1159 car tires. It says it if you google this, Container TGHU7712262 lost at sea
@@dertythegrower фильм
That crab looks delicious
I was wondering how many other people where thinking this also
please do a follow up on this!
there is any way to take the container off the water salvage operation raising the containers up
When she says a word with an S its like knives in my ear
Yup the prolonged sharp pronunciation is kinda irritating.
@@michaelangeloudarbe8480 If they ran the audio through audacity they could have removed the Piercing S spund
She's a snake
like the shipping company that lost the container in the first place, needs to be reliable to retrieve it...drop a hook down, hook it up and wench it to the top...no no lets leave it there.. lmfao PS it doesn't matter the cost, fix the problem!!
It's over 4000 feet deep.
That's not happening.
thats amazing paint, 7 years in the salty water!
could a reason for no sponges or corals be that there were no sponges/coral pre-existing on the container and sponges cant walk so they have no way to get there?
I really dislike people who pronounce the letter S in a grading manner.
മല്ലൂസ് ആരും ഇല്ലേ ഇവിടെ
Imagine that rapidly sinking to the bottom, poor sea creatures living where it fell
i wish they'd either put them out of camera range, or use non visible laser range finders. its so annoying to always see the two laser distance gauges in ROV footage, since most of the time operators forget, or dont think to turn it off.