The Most Overrated NBA 2K Game
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- čas přidán 17. 03. 2023
- NBA 2K17 was and still is overrated. It was the start of 2K's drop in quality and care, and the end of 2K's focus on the offline player. Despite an insanely buggy launch, terrible AI, and predatory business practices, it blows my mind that some consider 2K17 to be one of the best NBA 2K titles of all time.
#retrospective #SOFTDRINKTV #game #review #sdtv - Hry
One of the terrible things they started in this 2K is limiting MyCareer to Online ONLY access, meaning you can't play any 2K MyCareer from 2K17 until now once they shut the servers off, so you can't even retrospectively play one of if not THE most popular mode in the game when you try to play it now
They need sued cause that's illegal to pay for a product n can't go back to play it fun fact back in the day they opened 2k14 servers back up before turning them off completely
17 had to be the blueprint for that because you can’t play my career if you’re not online on the most recent 2ks either
I used to love Mycareer it was a must play game mode for me. It got so bad I stopped buying 2k completely. Now, however, with the my eras franchises mode I just make my player in a draft class, set the game so I can only play as myself. I play about 10 games a season and slowly upgrade my player tweaking the game as I go. Playing a career through the 80s into the 90s is really fun. But it’s sad I had to abandon Mycareer completely. I’ve even gone back and played 2k12 on the ps3 just to experience the old mode as it was.
Literally, 2K19 has such a great my career plot and I can't even go back to revisit it
2k20 is the one that started to limit my career to online, you can access offline my career in everygame before 20
I remember how much criticism 2k17 used to get during its lifecycle.
I think it’s now shown in a more positive light because of nostalgia and 2k18 being so bad.
I remember the constant Dom2k and Agent 00 videos in 2k17 while it was popping complaining about how bad it was and how bad the servers were especially.
it wasn’t good until patch 3-4, and 2k19 was the only good 2k after that
@@Goose21 same
Park after Dark anyone???😂
@@AfroDevil exactly
2k16 was the 1st 2k to nerf our players, 2k17 turned us into straight up role players. People only Romanticize it because it was the last one with good parks
I feel like we've gone too far back in 1 direction tho lately. The imbalance in the amount of offensive badges and defensive badges is out in 23
I was fine with 2K16's limitations. 2K17 took it too far with the role player aspect. I made an Outside PG in 2K16 and was still able to get contact dunk animations, handle the ball, and of course shoot. You could even get every badge in the game to Gold. The best player I played with in that game had a 5'11 Balanced build that basically got contact dunks at will and was still a great shooter lol
Facts 💯
@@DonDeLem 5'11 dunking on people? thats realistic to you
@theonlygoodonehere2259 - No mention of realism in this thread.
And yes, it is realistically possible for a 5'11 person to be an elite slasher
I’m so glad somebody finally said it 😭
Was dead thinking the same thing 🤣🤣🤣
Ongod 😂🤣 it was mid
Ppl been knew this it’s the kids and Gen Z who’s first 2k was this game that love it
I Swear To God
Fr tho 😂
2K16 was so amazing, and I still play it today. 2K17 and 18 made it feel like 2K16 was a game from the distant future.
MyNBA is *SOOOOOOOO* much better in 2k17 than 2k16 though. Idk why people act like 2k16 MyNBA is good. The entire player management system is broken in 16. There were so many bugs that never got patched. They fixed all that in 2k17
@@michaelahurt it was my league btw
Well said
No NBA 2k 2011 is overrated
yooo, you guys are BS'ing in the comment section, play 2k16 and play 2k17 offline and see which one you last longer in, I play both everyday, 16 is kind of a better game, but 17 is much more fun and free, in 2k16, its hard to even get CPU curry to attempt enough 3 point shots
Funny enough I think this was the last 2K game where I genuinely had a lot of fun
Same I didn't play this game when it first came out so I never had to big issues I think I played this game a year or 2 after it came out I still play it
Did you like 19 or nah? That was probably my favorite, personally.
19 was good 16 was the best in my opinion. My career story was great, park was lit and fun, we had rookie-legend.
@@jaydenvert9168great soundtrack, fun playing defense in every mode, offense is awful tho
@@jaydenvert9168dude what are you like 8 years old
2K17 was such a , weird game looking back at it. In between what many call the Goat of 2K (NBA 2k16) and the worst 2K ever (2K18). For me it was a decent game like you said, but I feel a lot of nostalgia has blinded some people on how they feel about the game cause for me this was the start of the end of quality 2K NBA games.
it was definitely the start of the 2k decline the character all looked yellowish and spaghetti like it was a visually bad 2k
I loved 2K16 but I’m pretty sure 2k11 is considered the goat I haven’t played it though
@@timratliff5646 2K16 to me gameplay wise and even graphics wise still ages well. 2K11's gameplay to me hasn't aged well.
I love 2k but I didn’t become good at it until they introduced the pro stick in 2k13. I swear that made KD, Lebron, Kobe, Carmelo and so many more OP
I never even knew some called it the goat …. Although I was able to adjust to it as with every year, the shot meter, every player being skinny and lanky, the CONSTANT blocking fouls, it seemed like the games “focus” was on turnovers but they fucked up on how OFTEN they’d be animated into the game automatically
This game was a buggy mess and the paul george screen is infamous. But I sank nearly my entire freshman year of college into this game with friends. It'll always have a spot in my heart
Lol facts it was kinda horrible I forgot about that PG13 screen 😭
Same bro 😂
2K17 was definitely where the series started to go off the tracks.
L take
Have to agree with the other guy L take
2k19 was good tho
@@wano1216 it was
@@reidpribble3878lmao no 2K17 is was the start tho 2K19 is decent the series immediately returned to be midiocre 2K20 is trash
One seldom mentioned detail about 2K17 is that it was the last game to offer the rookie difficulty in My Career. For some reason (probably to push people into buying VC) 2K18 axed rookie from My Career altogether
“For some reason.” You hit the nail on the head
The thing that I liked about 2K17 was that it was the first 2K that allowed you expand the league to as many as 36 teams.
I know this game is overrated, but I honestly still adore it just cause I played a ton of it back when I was a kid and it just came out. I did buy a copy of 2K16 a little while ago I need to give it a try
If you were a kid in 2017 you are still a kid
@@MrShanester117 it was 6 years ago. That's just false.
@@MrShanester117 I was 14 years old in 2017. I'm 19 now
@@andymancan_ you a 03 baby too i jus turned 20 tho😂😂
@@andymancan_kid
I remember this game was so unfinished at launch that players really thought a patch update would include new parks 😂
I still vividly remember everyone hating on this game when it came out and then everyone turned around it blindly liked it because of 2k18. Reminds of a similar situation a certain Star Wars prequel is in🤔
Fax
Disney ruined Star Wars. It makes me sad lol
The reason why NBA 2K, 17 was bad is because Ben Simmons had a good three-point shot lol
Strictly offline player here-replayed Jordan Challenge in 2K11, and as you allude to, it holds up surprisingly well to this day. My “daily driver” 2K is 2K16. To my eye, it’s better looking on PC than all subsequent PC versions. Thank you for this great look at where 2K really started dropped the ball.
This guy really says what it is already on our minds about our favorite sports games. Thank you for what you do. I am curious if you have any opinions on NCAA March Madness 06. I love the College Classics in those games.
SOFTDRINKTV hits it out of the park once again with another amazing video
Calm down
The d riding is crazy
And I like most of his videos, too, but this one ain’t it
@@reidpribble3878 and that's your opinion to which I respect but my opinion is different
I like Michael B as Justice. That’s what I remember most fondly I think.
#orangejuice
I think 2k20 is up here too. I remember it being the worst game at launch at it being so broken and just garbage. However, people had to play it during quarentine and they link 2k20 to only that time and think it was a good game. It was just the memories. The game was awful
I'd love to see a video on what you think the most overrated games in other sports franchises are. Madden, FIFA, NHL etc.
Madden 12, fifa 11, nhl 14 imo
@@dustinnrussell madden 12 is def overrated but it’s also the last “good” madden. M13 was the downfall
I'm still rocking 2k16, and it's all I need for a solid hoop game.
👌
ill always remember how someone was spam dribbling in front of me while i wasnt touching my controller and my character still fell over from an "ankle breaker"
The offline mode was amazing. I really enjoyed it.
I love your content SD and I think you made some pretty valid arguments with supporting criticism. A.I was braindead as someone who played MyGm and mycareer all day, Multiple glitches in the park, and a downgrade in presentation from 2k16, but it all boils down to what you said fond memories. As of now 2k is extremely dry with expensive monetization, dull unfair gameplay and the community is less a community and more seeing who’s the best on the game (aka who can abuse cheese more). But 2k17 even with its cheese was fun. 2k content would leap forward with multiple 2k CZcamsrs creating content that you rarely see nowadays, the mycareer while corny at times was memorable and the storyline and character dynamics made it seem like you just weren’t playing games to upgrade and play in park but playing to also see what happened in the story, you could go into park with 55 overall centers and still do good , and lots of little gameplay changes such as them trying to dial back on animations made for funner gameplay moments. I was about 13 when it came out and I had a lot of good memories from the game you just don’t get with 23. While 2k23 is a better basketball game it’s not a better game if that makes sense.
You just cleared a lot of things up for me, I’ve always praised 2k17 but I first got the game months after launch when they fixed the game for the most part luckily, even when I got the game there was still the loading screen issues.
Oh man! Get to work, see a new SDTV video.. ftw! Can't wait to grab a snack and watch! I did enjoy this game. Was the last one that had KG active on the Wolves lol
FINALLY somebody said it. Real 2k OGs remember when 2k17 came out, everybody complained it was 2k16.5. Many players went back to 2k16 right after launch
Cap
I’ve been saying this for years now thank you for voicing this
Soft Drink do you think when Mlb The Show 23 comes out you could give your review on it? I’ve always been a Mlb the show fan. And they’ve actually updated Franchise mode. And added Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa sounds unbelievable right? This would be great.
Don't give MLB the show credit you franchise guys have been asking for improvements for years and still doesn't even compare to the PS3 era games. MLB the show would be on par with Madden if it wasn't for it's good gameplay.
@@11Pharcyde Agreed but being on par with Madden is a stretch. Madden is on a whole different level. 😂
Thank you i tell my nephew all the time just because you and your friends are having fun playing a game doesnt mean the game isnt mid
Great video. I went back to play 2k17 a few weeks ago playing some myleague and yea the cpu is shocking. The constant double teams when one of my players becomes slightly hot makes it borderline unplayable, because I want to dominate with LeBron, not just shoot constant wide open 3’s with iman shumpert lol. I loved playing park with my friends back in the day tho so this game will always be in my heart fr fr.
do yk how basketball works
lol i'll only start freaking out when you make a video about either the mlb the show series or one of the past 5 or 6 editions of the game. I really hope for that video one day!
It was not overrated. It was a good game. Some silly things like Paul George screen made it annoying but it’s still a top 3 2k of all time in my opinion
dawg you are still denying it for what. It had multiple problems. you making it seem like it only had a few bugs. It was the start of the end
@@bonystickmanking1250 i played that shit all day everyday dude, I know what it did and didn’t do. It was for sure top 3 regardless
@@AlwaysXO_you barely played 2k if you think its top 3 no matter if uts your opinion or not. Thats ridiculous
It's such a shame that THIS was the game that introduced what is still my favorite franchise-mode feature: expansion teams.
NBA 2K16 is the GOAT.
i’ve literally liked 2k17💀i hate the body types, the gameplay, and the fact that they put kobe on the cover with no game mode
I swear y’all so nostalgic y’all call anything in 2017 the best the gold
Idc, 2k17s my career will forever be the best in the series. Nothing will ever touch the greatness that was Orange Juice.
YES! #orangejuice was so fun!
loved the vid. please bring back the sarasota seamen 😮💨
I still play it to this day
NBA 2K17's MyLEAGUE introduced expansion teams and the ability to download custom team designs from 2K's servers.
I thought that was introduced in 16? you could at least download jerseys on my team, can't remember if you could on myleague tho
@@kobe240money4 2K16 did have the ability to download logos and court ads from the servers, but 2K17 introducing the option to download full custom designs from the 2K servers, where as in 2K16, if you wanted a specific team design you would have to manually assemble it yourself.
@@maxwasson2000 ah gotcha
I miss playing w regular and historic teams in Teamup sucks everyone just wants do glitch Myplayer mode with only 1 loadout that takes months to build plus $50+ to get started rather just pick up and play especially with all the Historic teams they added
Bro, off topic, but what is the instrumental used at the start of the video?
Damn.....I actually liked 2k17......it has it's problems but no matter the difficulty........ shooting worked lol
dang man....this is why i watch you....speak unnoticed facts
No😭 this was the most fun I had in a 2k
It is overrated but I absolutely love it. Shooting felt so clean and the story mode was endearing. I will never forget the feeling of throwing a lob to myself as Micheal b Jordan
This is spot on. Glad you started off with the launch. All I can think about is that stupid basketball loading everything that would either take forever or never load. The gameplay was a big downgrade. So glad you mentioned blacktop. 2k17 dropped my freshman year of college. My roommates and anybody that wanted to play 2k had to see us in Blacktop and even after 2k17 dropped we would still go back to 2k16 for blacktop, it is a grail. Moving into my career, I played a lot of offline 2k with 2k17 because being in college we would bet money on play now games but when I did play my career, the online was good but not the end all be all of 2k. Parks were recycled. I feel like that 2k17 gets so much praise for critics because of the time that ir dropped which was 2016, a simpler time and also Fredo leading the 2k community. I think Fredo’s run would’ve made most 2ks look great and since it was the peak of his run and this is the 2k during that time you just look back and think it was the best. Don’t believe? You can’t tell me the park era is the same as it is now as it was back then. 2k16 should get way more praise than 17. 2k19 was a great game to me as well. A big recovery
That Paul George loading screen was the worst
Review ncaa football 10. It’s relatively cheap and super fun. Great video here though!
ill take any nba2k game over any madden tho
still waiting for the fifa games retrospective but W video
Great video man 👏
What’s funny is that I been thinking this for a while, and then TSO Sage just said it in a video bout a week ago.
the overhaul to MyLeague and MyGM makes 2k17 not overrated for that reason. The draft classes could be carefully made, and it wasn't just a bunch of cookie cutter players. I ended up making like 10 draft classes, downloaded another 5-6 and had my own league last into the 2030's. There is nothing else like it. The amount of control and creativity with the simulation aspect of the game is incredible.
I do agree with others that 2k16 had the best gameplay but 2k17 franchise mode is legit AF
100%. I feel like this where any analysis really depends which modes you prefer but 2k17 took 16's MyLeague/GM to the next level. Hell the next two or three levels. It's probably the peak of the experience.
Or 18, which just added the MyGM storyline. (Otherwise it's essentially the same.)
But then 19 and 20 were re-skins that got progressively worse because the player generation system wasn't getting rebalanced with the new (inflated) player ratings and badges and because they stopped adding/cleaning up features. Then NextGen -- ugh. It just doesn't work. Contracts, player generation, UI, player progression, stat simulation, overall balance ... It's just bad. MyEras is a great concept in 23 and same for some of the newer features like assistant coaches but nothing works right. You just have to ignore way too much for my tastes to genuinely enjoy it.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS, FINALLY!
16 was so good I would play like 15-20 franchise regular season game but 17 I didn't even what to play a casual game with friends
Counterargument: my opinion is more valuable than yours
I remember 17 was so bad to me I was still playing 16 that whole year
Great video, but if i'm being honest, outside of 2k20, 17 was the last game that genuinely made me happy to play and I know i'm not alone, nostalgia plays a big part yeah, but even so I had unlimited fun on this game I think it's rated perfectly fine in my opinion.
no
That intro was fire ngl
The only thing I remember about this game is "Friction" and "Good Times"
Bro how you never miss I need some advice for my channel
You know how bad 2k18 had to be for people to go back and call 17 the GOAT!?!?😂😂😂
Bro I’m happy u said this, 16 is by far better. 17 had terrible animations. Just good dribbling and nostalgia
This is the game that I remember the least about from when i played 2k11 through 2k19, the mycareer was solid but mostly forgettable, the ui also was my least favorite of those 2ks
In terms of gameplay, this game was not bad at all. Loved the animations and Play Now against friends was entertaining.
The main reason I put this as Top 2 worst 2K (2K20 is 1 for me) is simply because of the MyCAREER. I was very disappointed with the limitations you had in creating builds because it just felt like MyRolePlayer. I made a Point Forward because it was one of the most balanced builds in the game, and it was the only build that got contact dunks without having to be a Slasher or glitch the game (Point Forwards got Big Man Contact Dunks). It was my transition from a pure Sharpshooter into a more all-around player though.
Im so mad i played every 2k until 2k15. I was on 360 at the time so i told my dad to stop buying the game since it was the same every time. When I finally got a ps4 I skipped 16 cause 17 was coming so this game is what i came back to and i love it its very nostalgic for me cause i was like 11-12 and played mycareer and league. it sucks i missed 16 but I probably would’ve hated 2k by 18
I've seen people put 2k17 up there with 2k16 and 2k11and its baffling. The only reason it gets praise is because pretty every 2k since has somehow been worse.
I thought I was the only one my friends praise this game and for me I couldn't get past the start screen without doing some workaround resulting in me not wanting to play game to give it a fair chance
So this is why I have fond memories of winning games in MyGM 2K17 compared to the difficult times in 2K24
You should do a retrospective on NBA 2k playgrounds
I don't agree on most points as a person who pre-ordered this game. In the year span it launched 2k17 only had the majority of these problems mentioned for less than a month post-launch.
The game had its flaws but nothing close to modern 2k issues. You mentioned the beginning of forcing players to be online in order to buy more VC. To an extent I agree, however, I must mention that if you play continuously everything in this 2k is more than achievable just through normal grind.
Modern 2k this is simply almost impossible for any working adult.
I don't think the archetype system was even mentioned once in this video, but man that new attribute system was so disappointing. You had rim protectors and Lockdowns making jumpers like they were DeRozen and Steph Curry. 2k failed to balanced archetypes in this game and the attributes were so limiting. Also, Kobe Bryant was not on the active roster. This was the first 2k game after he retired in the 2016 season.
Good video but umm…. We not gonna talk about how some of these clips have a TNT scoreboard, and 2k17 didn’t have that lol.
The servers for this game were SOOOOO BAD, it took 5 to 10 minutes to load onto the main menu and you’d get kicked out of everything, I didn’t play much park but I’d get kicked from MYCAREER GAMES. The gameplay wasn’t terrible, the AI was terrible tho, double teams were hilarious, also the shot meter for this game was my favorite OAT
This was my first nba 2k. I had just gotten a ps3 for Christmas, and I loved it.
@@B1inded3agle__ so much memories
Man I’m sorry but this game holds a special place in my heart😭😭
I understand that that this game is a really good game to you guys but I do have to agree with soft drink TV here he does bring up a good point even though 2K 17 is the worst 2K at launch. it wasn’t all that good and a lot of people had to make the best of the gameplay of what they have now and plus the gameplay was really bad too. I tried it out and I really did not like it but it’s OK for you guys to say that you like the game in your own opinion.
The best 2ks were when the cpu was actually challenging but in a realistic way. You couldnt just sprint past the defense every play as if it was a track meet, they didnt overly double super early in the game to the point where your best player has 12+ assists by the end of the first quarter. Back in like 2k14 and before, offline game modes eere actually fun. Doing a franchise mode, gm mode, all star weekend, the blacktop having games of 21, 1v1 up to 5v5 allowing you to choose full or half court, 2k12 having team usa 1992, 2012 teams along wirh international teams, i can keep going. Mycareer/myplayer you didnt have to oay to be elite. And the nba games within that mode were fun and difficult but again not in a super cheating way. I remember it being a challenge to get 50+ points against some teams when now a days you basically start out getting 40+ if you pay to upgrade your player taking away the progression aspect of seeing your player to from being ok to being a demigod. Oh yeah you could make all around players that were tall, fast athletic without habdicaps allowing full control of your player design. They had to asd in a ton of badges to kinda go back to how it was with 6'9+ guard like builds.
2K17 seriously started the downfall on the series and pretty much knew how bad it was when it came out. They completely screwed up the defense and movement and it never got better since.
Still wish 2K16 was still available to play online.
2k17 had one of the most fun parks ever after Christmas
Why don't these annual sports games operate on a live service model where the roster is updated every year with the same basic mechanics?
are you getting to NBA shootout 2001 through NBA 09 the inside?
Rather play 23 than 17 is crazy
Brilliant video
once christmas came around and the patches hit, 2k17 was cold af it was certainly better than 18 imo
Gameplay wise, I have the most fun and rage the least playing 2k17 vs any of the other ps4 2ks. You can actually read the defense and make the right decision to get open looks instead of animation hunting like in the other 2ks. Also you can time blocks and steals a lot better in 2k17 vs. having to spam steal and block in other years. 2k17 also has the most responsive controls of any 2k I’ve played. There’s almost no delay in the animations playing out and with the shot meter.
thats cause 2k17 easy, once you make it to the top, you make it to the top, with 16 though, what people don't mention is they use an engine thats algorithm based and hard coded, started from 2k14 on pc to 2k16, AI is the best in the game, but when you are are often leading, 2k does whatever it can to have role player guys score on you, even guys who can't shoot can score a 3 pointer or midrange on you, and then your team starts acting dumb and making weird turnovers they don't normally make, so you can lose the game
@@theonlygoodonehere2259 WHAT, "once u make it to the top you make it" your argument is flawed, first i could hop on nba 2k 17 on pc rn play a play now game and the ai would be fixed, defense was amazing, dribble moves was responsive, and the gameplay was all around amazing. also you couldnt just pick up 2k17 and learn all the dirbble moves in 1 second. so 2k17 being easy is wrong. u must have never played 2k17
@@yusukethemazoku9111 ugh, I play it all the time, games broken, its a good game, and not as bad as people make it out to be, but its very easy, dribbling does require skill though to learn, AI is also very dumbed down in that game to make it easy for you
My favorite thing for 2k17 was Allstar Mode. Loved it back then.
what is the best nba 2k version in terms of gameplay, controls, and offline content?
2K11 and 2K16.
2K14 has the best career mode.
@@WavyNZL- bro, mycareer from 2k10 to 2k14 is literally the same. just picked 2k16 tho, livin the dream was it
U finally missed on a take, this is one of the most complete 2Ks you’re TRIPPIN
People glorify it now but let’s not forget we all hated that game when it was out. The PG loading screen it took them all year to fix was bad. The archetype system was barebones so the builds were limited compared to 16 and meta builds became normal. My career was boring. And the servers took a step back from 16. Park after dark was garbage. And one place I disagree with you on is 2k20. 2k20 was slept on. The biggest issue I had with the game was the lies they told to start the year and how the game was fine at launch but people complained about being too hard to shoot on day one and then the patches screwed the game up and the game didn’t become better til about January of 2020
I stopped buying 2k after this. Not only because it was a bad game but I also lost interest in the NBA. It confuses me so much how people say this game was the last great 2k. Either 2k18 was so bad that it made people look at 2k17 in a better light or they forgot how good 2k16 was.
1) Yes 18 was that bad. At least in MyCareer anyway
2) Maybe a little bit forgot about 16 but more likely the person saying that plays MyLeague.
I know for me, a MyLeague player, having played 16, 17 and 18 this past summer, 17 was by far my favorite coming back to them 5 years later.
Definitely against you on this one, 2k17 wasn’t perfect but the my park was amazing even with the face scan glitch and speed boosters. I get the loading screens took forever but still 2k18 and up the badge grind is more annoying then loading screens
Man.. I actually remember 2k20 being good not as good as 19 but not bad. But I was a sophomore and played it a lot during quarantine so maybe that’s all it is
Yeah this game was buggy asf but i still had tons of fun playing it
2k17 was REALLY good. Of course I’m looking at the game at its best but when do we don’t?
W. Been saying this since the little kids who havent even played it been overrating a game they never even played
man I remember agent 00 playing it and him saying it was the worst 2k at the time and then 2k18 came out
I have been saying this for years adn receieved so much backlash. 2k17 is definition of nostalgia clouding your mind. This game marked the beginning of 2K falling off (in terms of quality).
I remember back in late 2016 when this game was still fresh when everybody was criticizing it, calling it the worst 2k of all time. Now that we have gotten worse 2ks, people appreciate it now. The nostalgia goggles are not coming off anytime soon. I wonder what reputation 2k17 would have if 2k18 didn’t stink so badly.