just diving in to the hobby and have watched about a thousand videos in the past two weeks. Yours are by far and away the most entertaining and informative on you tube. thanks Bro!
First of all, I like what the filter looks like, no matter if the pump is not 800 gallons per hour. The filter looks so smooth and I like that very much. The feed button is a lifesaver. Secondly, the goldfish aquarium! I can't wait to see it, awesome 😃 Thirdly, a great video and everything explained in great detail! Like,like,like 👍
Bro, I don't normally comment on vids, but I'm loving your channel. Love the blend of unbiased information, backed by testing (unlike others) and most of all, appreciate your jokes! Also love that you find the time to reply to comments! You're doing an awesome job!
@@TankTastic bro, your vids are awesome, and they got jokes too! Hope the channel gets the 100k followers you want, it deserves it. Maybe try some non-fish videos too, your sense of humour has wide appeal, that's for sure! Anyway, cheers for making the vids, I never comment on vids, I just research stuff and that's it. But had to congratulate you on your work, has made my day quite a bit more funnier, and informative at the same time. Stay safe, and have a good one!
I never knew about this filter. I really like it a lot. This is something I would buy when needed. Yes I have watched many of Dr Novak's videos and I do use underground filters. Dr Novak is also a (almost used a harsh word) person that loves loves to talk and go on and on and on and on and on. He could certainly get his point(s) across in much less time, thus I really do not watch him any longer. Thank you for this video! I am an Eheim lover and like this FZ much more
Welcome dude! Yea I know what you mean lol, his style is more of the professor level, I like more punchy content. Yea its like a fancier version of that eheim classics, the lifetime ss canister warranty is a nice to have.
Dr. Novak did a great review on this canister & you too. I also use his filtration system And under gravel filter , The only thing I can really say is I noticed a lot less algae and the fish look happier you should really try it out
@@TankTastic yes you should try it out , and make the same Aquascape that you bin doing , but I have been noticing I’m able to keep more fish and shrimp without any deaths , I have to do water changes anyway
Smaller internal diameter and greater hose length both increase water flow resistance. Also, height increases hidrostatic pressure. Hose thickness or rather its elasticity also play part in resulting flow, but I guess its negligible for this application. Great content as always!
i did not go through all the comments so my apologies if someone already said the following. the flow could be restricted due to the way the 2 canister trays were inserted. this model has an issue with the wide metal plate legs. if not positioned properly a leg on the bottom tray can restrict the inlet port. this issue has been resolved in newer models. The top tray can (should) be inserted with the legs upward. Since the canister cover is flat, if the legs are downward then the top of the tray will be flat against the canister cover and can restrict the outlet port.
The problem with this canister filter are indeed the bottom and top plates that restricts water flow. If you are lot careful with the bottom plate, one of the legs will block the inlet hole in the bottom. Similarly with the top, if you are not careful with the top plate, for example pressing the top plate against the lid, will block the outlet hole partially or entiterly.
That makes sense, but with the hose size the flow is already restricted so this canister and much like any canister will never reach their full potential. For this canister, the cleaning is bit more annoying than anything else. But it does look good though.
A similar rated pump (SIcce Syncra SDC 3.0, 800gph, 35w) shows on its flowchart that at just over 3 ft of head pressure, it barely pushes 1/2 the GPH rating at 400gph. I'm just estimating you have about 5 feet of head pressure, which that Sicce shows flows about 250gph max, not accounting for the slight flow loss from the 90 deg bend feeding the pump. Since the pump is external top mounted, you also have to account for the suckage from the bottom of the cannister into the overall head pressure. With typical submerged pumps, even some reactors and skimmers with external pumps, they are mounted at the bottom. I wonder how much that gravity of water in the tank or sump helps with the pumps flow capability, counteracts the head pressure somewhat I'd think, versus pump having to both suck and blow. Ok, I'm talking myself into getting one of these now, for all the wrong reasons. I think it would certainly effect it in this mounting configuration as the filters clog up more if not maintained regularly, as the pumps flow is all coming through a 16mm hose feed by a slowly clogging chamber, rather than it sitting in the bottom of a tank/sump with access to larger water mass to feed it. Great video.
The question is what's the point of purchase of such a filter 🤔 you need to buy additional stuff😱 it is just like I will buying a car then separately engine wheels windows etc 😂😂 FZone no thanks! Oase biomaster yes please 😜 Good video Regards 😁
What is the optimum flow rate where you get the full use of your filter? Lots of variables, but I think you don't want to ram water through your filter at such a high speed to get the most out of your filter. In fact I like a little slower speed it seems to have what I'm looking for.
High flow is for heavily planted tanks and you need water to circulate the tank and move the co2, etc. heavily planted as in a jungle which most planted tanks get to.
That's not what I'm asking I know flows for the tank, what I'm talking about is the right flow to get the most out of your filter and it's ingredients i.e. bio rings and sponges.taking out the nitrates and turning into nitrites and beyond. The speed of the water through the filter,not the tank, that's what I want to know, I really don't think anyone knows or has done a study on this I guess.
4 times turnover for planted tanks 10 times for cichlid tanks. So if you have a 100 liter tank you need real world lph of 400. 55 G tank then 220 gph for planted tank and 550 for cichlid tanks. These are general guidelines. Ymmv depending on fish stocking but it's a good standard.
@@TankTastic Oh cool just a matter of time then, I couldn't find the filter nor the acrilic base nothing, and by the way do you speak German? All the links takes me to Amazon in German lol and ich verstehe Nur Banhof! 😅
Nice filter but ADA is still king for the best canister filter ever made in my opinion. When you copy someone else design that should tell you something. But nice video really wanted to see this filter. But I’ll stick with ADA.
The water pump is too powerful 3000l/h. You cannot use Stainless steel filter with 1 inlet. You need to have 2 inlets . And the outlet must have a diameter of 25mm
I do with it has a 25mm inlet and outlet, but it does not. and it will never reach the manufacturer rating, the power is only good for when you get lazy and don't want to clean your filter so you turn it up to supplement the loss of power LOL
I answered another comment with similar sentiment. But the biggest problem is the hose size, as this canister or any other canisters will never reach their full potential with 16/22mm hoses. Lets say the plates do affect it, just move it aside vs the hoses.
just diving in to the hobby and have watched about a thousand videos in the past two weeks. Yours are by far and away the most entertaining and informative on you tube. thanks Bro!
Haha appreciate that! Hope it helps
You want some of the the best and informative vids check out Cory from aquarium co-op. The early vids are by far the best and informative.
First of all, I like what the filter looks like, no matter if the pump is not 800 gallons per hour. The filter looks so smooth and I like that very much. The feed button is a lifesaver. Secondly, the goldfish aquarium! I can't wait to see it, awesome 😃 Thirdly, a great video and everything explained in great detail! Like,like,like 👍
Yup, I've given up chasing GPH with a canister. Yea man, seen you do some goldfish aquascape beautifully. So going to give it a go!
@@TankTastic Goldfish are super fun,you will see.
Bro, I don't normally comment on vids, but I'm loving your channel. Love the blend of unbiased information, backed by testing (unlike others) and most of all, appreciate your jokes!
Also love that you find the time to reply to comments!
You're doing an awesome job!
I appreciate comments like these. This is why I make these vids. Been slacking lately because of work, but more videos in the works!
@@TankTastic bro, your vids are awesome, and they got jokes too!
Hope the channel gets the 100k followers you want, it deserves it.
Maybe try some non-fish videos too, your sense of humour has wide appeal, that's for sure!
Anyway, cheers for making the vids, I never comment on vids, I just research stuff and that's it. But had to congratulate you on your work, has made my day quite a bit more funnier, and informative at the same time.
Stay safe, and have a good one!
@@resh7215 def want to get into that. Check out my tiktok for the not so serious side: www.tiktok.com/@tanktasticnyc
You have outdone yourself with this one. Great stuff
😂 thank you! Since I have less time for videos these days I try to make each one as good as I possibly can.
Thanks for doing honest reviews man
They're so hard to find these days.
Appreciate it, I try to be as transparent as possible.
I never knew about this filter. I really like it a lot. This is something I would buy when needed. Yes I have watched many of Dr Novak's videos and I do use underground filters. Dr Novak is also a (almost used a harsh word) person that loves loves to talk and go on and on and on and on and on. He could certainly get his point(s) across in much less time, thus I really do not watch him any longer.
Thank you for this video!
I am an Eheim lover and like this FZ much more
Welcome dude! Yea I know what you mean lol, his style is more of the professor level, I like more punchy content. Yea its like a fancier version of that eheim classics, the lifetime ss canister warranty is a nice to have.
@@TankTastic I was thin king about getting one of these to do the Dr. Novak thing. I bet it would work awesome.
Dr. Novak did a great review on this canister & you too. I also use his filtration system And under gravel filter , The only thing I can really say is I noticed a lot less algae and the fish look happier you should really try it out
You're not the first one that mentioned that they see less algae. I didn't want to say anything just yet, wanted to try it out.
@@TankTastic yes you should try it out , and make the same Aquascape that you bin doing , but I have been noticing I’m able to keep more fish and shrimp without any deaths , I have to do water changes anyway
Smaller internal diameter and greater hose length both increase water flow resistance. Also, height increases hidrostatic pressure. Hose thickness or rather its elasticity also play part in resulting flow, but I guess its negligible for this application.
Great content as always!
Yea, so much variables. I’m going to worry about it anymore lol its like those things that keep you up st night for no reason lol
i did not go through all the comments so my apologies if someone already said the following. the flow could be restricted due to the way the 2 canister trays were inserted. this model has an issue with the wide metal plate legs. if not positioned properly a leg on the bottom tray can restrict the inlet port. this issue has been resolved in newer models. The top tray can (should) be inserted with the legs upward. Since the canister cover is flat, if the legs are downward then the top of the tray will be flat against the canister cover and can restrict the outlet port.
Flow is rated at the nozzle of the pump, hence the lower results.
great editing and commentary
Appreciate that!
thanks for your excellent explanation. It helped a lot!
Glad it was useful!
The problem with this canister filter are indeed the bottom and top plates that restricts water flow. If you are lot careful with the bottom plate, one of the legs will block the inlet hole in the bottom. Similarly with the top, if you are not careful with the top plate, for example pressing the top plate against the lid, will block the outlet hole partially or entiterly.
That makes sense, but with the hose size the flow is already restricted so this canister and much like any canister will never reach their full potential. For this canister, the cleaning is bit more annoying than anything else. But it does look good though.
Like I said on FB,You had me at Dime Bag,Sub'd an liked
😂😂😂 appreciate it!
A similar rated pump (SIcce Syncra SDC 3.0, 800gph, 35w) shows on its flowchart that at just over 3 ft of head pressure, it barely pushes 1/2 the GPH rating at 400gph. I'm just estimating you have about 5 feet of head pressure, which that Sicce shows flows about 250gph max, not accounting for the slight flow loss from the 90 deg bend feeding the pump.
Since the pump is external top mounted, you also have to account for the suckage from the bottom of the cannister into the overall head pressure. With typical submerged pumps, even some reactors and skimmers with external pumps, they are mounted at the bottom. I wonder how much that gravity of water in the tank or sump helps with the pumps flow capability, counteracts the head pressure somewhat I'd think, versus pump having to both suck and blow. Ok, I'm talking myself into getting one of these now, for all the wrong reasons. I think it would certainly effect it in this mounting configuration as the filters clog up more if not maintained regularly, as the pumps flow is all coming through a 16mm hose feed by a slowly clogging chamber, rather than it sitting in the bottom of a tank/sump with access to larger water mass to feed it.
Great video.
That was hella comprehensive. You sir need to do a CZcams video.
Great test indeed!
🙏🙏🙏
1.5 months update video for this filter is here: czcams.com/video/nzUh8_Z8hig/video.html
Fine pad should have went after the sponges, then small muck wont get your bio material dirty. Putting it on top just collects dirt in the media.. 🙂
Wait what? Currently it travels through sponges first
Is there a prefilter module available with this one? I’m very interested and great video. Prefilter makes a hell of a difference in cleaning
Thank you
I just ordered one of these... I hope its worth it. My bank account hates me right now, LOL.
😂😂😂 hey man, if you dont like it you can always return it via Amazon.
Do you have to suck the hose to prime?
Yea man, thats one thing I don’t like. But there’s currently no way around it. Lol unless you use another pump on the end to replace your mouth 😂
The question is what's the point of purchase of such a filter 🤔 you need to buy additional stuff😱 it is just like I will buying a car then separately engine wheels windows etc 😂😂 FZone no thanks! Oase biomaster yes please 😜 Good video Regards 😁
What is the optimum flow rate where you get the full use of your filter? Lots of variables, but I think you don't want to ram water through your filter at such a high speed to get the most out of your filter. In fact I like a little slower speed it seems to have what I'm looking for.
High flow is for heavily planted tanks and you need water to circulate the tank and move the co2, etc. heavily planted as in a jungle which most planted tanks get to.
That's not what I'm asking I know flows for the tank, what I'm talking about is the right flow to get the most out of your filter and it's ingredients i.e. bio rings and sponges.taking out the nitrates and turning into nitrites and beyond. The speed of the water through the filter,not the tank, that's what I want to know, I really don't think anyone knows or has done a study on this I guess.
I’ve always known faster flow assists bio media. Slow flow assists mechanical filtration.
4 times turnover for planted tanks 10 times for cichlid tanks. So if you have a 100 liter tank you need real world lph of 400. 55 G tank then 220 gph for planted tank and 550 for cichlid tanks. These are general guidelines. Ymmv depending on fish stocking but it's a good standard.
@@TankTastic But that's almost impossible to achieve. Good video. Try to use 19mm hose.
I wonder why none of these products are available at Amazon now. 🤔
They are sold out, but new product will be in stock in less than 30 days.
@@TankTastic Oh cool just a matter of time then, I couldn't find the filter nor the acrilic base nothing, and by the way do you speak German? All the links takes me to Amazon in German lol and ich verstehe Nur Banhof! 😅
What other pump would you use with this
I stick with the same manufacturer but any brand of pumps thats similar to this one you can use. Just gotta find a way to attach it
Nice filter but ADA is still king for the best canister filter ever made in my opinion. When you copy someone else design that should tell you something. But nice video really wanted to see this filter. But I’ll stick with ADA.
I def dont think ADA will be replaced. But this is a cheaper alternative.
I don't know looks like a lot work and the glass parts looks so fragile
I think many people who have their plastic filters broken will prefer to switch to stainless steel.
Put the fine floss before your bio media or all the surface area will get clogged with fine junk. Great video
I usually would but the media bags will squish it. 🙁
@@TankTastic put a layer of lighting diffuser over it, that's what I do and its works pretty well
Wait, lighting diffuser? Shoot me a link?
@@TankTastic some people call it egg crate
Ohhh egg crate, that makes more sense. Lollllll
The water pump is too powerful 3000l/h. You cannot use Stainless steel filter with 1 inlet. You need to have 2 inlets . And the outlet must have a diameter of 25mm
I do with it has a 25mm inlet and outlet, but it does not. and it will never reach the manufacturer rating, the power is only good for when you get lazy and don't want to clean your filter so you turn it up to supplement the loss of power LOL
Filtr 230 Volt power Europe???
Your top plate is blocking the water. I think it is a design flaw
I answered another comment with similar sentiment. But the biggest problem is the hose size, as this canister or any other canisters will never reach their full potential with 16/22mm hoses. Lets say the plates do affect it, just move it aside vs the hoses.
Dime bag 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😭
"inspired by" the ada filters 🤣
Gotta keep it classy lol