I love my Moster 185+, I've had essentially 0 issues with it and I'm at about 125h. When I see all of these little parts though, it really makes me wish electric paramotors were better and battery to energy weight ratios were better... there are just so many parts involved in making the Moster 185+ run so smoothly.
I am Working as a Helicopter technician and im glad to see someone actually cares about the engine and holding the maintenance timelines. Have seen so many people just run till the engine dies or clutch fails and so on, Instead of holding it in good condition and change parts after timeline even if they look good/Works. And also use the right tools to do the job!
Awesome video! Where on earth do you find the torque specs? (or do you just use intuition) currently replacing my exhaust gasket and have no clue how I should tighten the lock nuts. :-P
According to the user manual exhaust studs 25Nm and exhaust nuts 32Nm. You can find the user manual from vittorazi.com -> service -> technical publications 👍
How long did this take you? Do you have any recommendations for resources for doing that your first time? I have been looking for a step-by-step video, but your video gives a great overview!
hi please, can you help.do you know for a moster 185 classic paramotor engine what the squish clearance is from min to max.from the cylinder barrel to the top cylinder head.
Hi, i hope you can help, as you seem to have quite the experience maintaining your moster! After my 25h maintenance , my power band is not constant especially at cruise rpm, which is 6000rpm. My motor runs smooth, rich, yet when it reaches 5800rpm and while I continue to throttle slowly, nothing happens for like 2 to 3 mm of throttle abd then suddenly it jumps to 6800rpm (climb). I cleaned the throttle handle and its cable, and adjusted the hi/lo screws on the carb bit i still face the prob. Any advices?
This pretty common with the Moster...mine does the same thing, although I think its gotten worse as I near my first 100hrs. Hopefully a carb rebuild and the 100hour will smooth this out a bit. I do think its just something inherent with the 185 though.
Ok, Starter dogs & spring, cylinder head and gasket, piston, piston rings, gudgeon pin and spring clips, top end needle roller bearing, clutch bearings, micro v belt, belt re- tension, header pipe flange, air filter, reed valves and gasket, carby kit and a new plug. That's the easy part, but where do I find the GLOVES. LOL. Seriously though, nice work Kimmo. I'm looking at buying one of these bad boys early next year, so for future reference, was that a complete overhaul kit or did you need to order individualy? Thanks in advance.
I've think I've watch nearly all the Moster 185 Plus service video's there is on offer by now and besides the Vottorazi Factory video's your is the only workshop that looks like you could also perform brain surgery in, it's so clean.. Anyway, what type of stand are you using to support the engine?
Thank you Harry! It was really straightforward without any problems. What would I do different? I would fly at least 50+ hours more before this maintenance 😉 The engine was in so good condition 👍
Why did you disassemble the muffler? I don't own a para-motor yet but leaning toward the Scout, a lot of features I like but wondering if that is a wise choice for a beginner since it might need to take a few accidental bumps, this is the only reason I'm thinking flat top. Due to cost I really don't want to buy one then once I learn how buy another, any inputs appreciated. But back to the original question, Why take apart the muffler?
Hi Chris! Inside the muffler there is noise absorbing material that you can replace. I think Scout is a good choice for the first paramotor. Features that Scout have helps you a lot especially in the beginning. You don't have to worry about the behavior of the paramotor you can focus to flying. I think that is the key you don't need to take those bumps 😊
Thanks Kimmo, that sells it, just want to boost my savings first, till then learning what I can by reading books on the subject and watching videos of others.
I wish you lived in the states ! you would be doing all my repairs and maintenance. You do such precise work, its amazing to watch a professional at work. Thanks Kimmo
So a top end rebuild at 100hrs. Hell a 100hrs still seem like a lot for a motor than cranks out 8500rpms all the time. When to do a complete rebuild, like lower crank bearings and seals? I sure would think at 200hrs you would have to do a complete rebuild. And at that point its probably cheaper to just buy a new motor, if you had to pay someone to rebuild it.. Unless you have the skills. and tech to do everything yourself correctly. :) Thanks for sharing
@@Kimmo_Sorjonen Did this expert ever pay up!? ;) Nice rebuild man - I'm trying to decide between a 2 or 4 stroke paramotor.... How has this Vittorazi been treating ya?
looks like this engine did not really needed the maintenance like this. It could have done with another 100 hours. I gues you only know when you take it appart.
This video would have had more value if it was informative... I'd like to do my own Maintenance on my motor and this does not offer any methods and techniques...
I love my Moster 185+, I've had essentially 0 issues with it and I'm at about 125h. When I see all of these little parts though, it really makes me wish electric paramotors were better and battery to energy weight ratios were better... there are just so many parts involved in making the Moster 185+ run so smoothly.
It's fun to work on a clean machine. Being off the ground keeps it clean!
I am Working as a Helicopter technician and im glad to see someone actually cares about the engine and holding the maintenance timelines. Have seen so many people just run till the engine dies or clutch fails and so on, Instead of holding it in good condition and change parts after timeline even if they look good/Works. And also use the right tools to do the job!
I like more planned maintenances than unplanned landings 😆👍
I think i will buy a paramotor next year and get the license, Looks so awesome and relaxing!
Maintenance can be very fun too!!@@Kimmo_Sorjonen
Awesome video! Where on earth do you find the torque specs? (or do you just use intuition) currently replacing my exhaust gasket and have no clue how I should tighten the lock nuts. :-P
According to the user manual exhaust studs 25Nm and exhaust nuts 32Nm. You can find the user manual from vittorazi.com -> service -> technical publications 👍
Sweet video... Does anyone know if there is a mx manual that gives comprehensive guidance on the 100 interval maintenance?
por que cambiaste la culata???????
Very nice! Do you find the carbon fiber cooling shroud makes a significant difference in CHT?
Thank you! I haven't fly without the shroud so I can't compare. No overheating so far so it seems to work. CHT between the 160℃-200℃ (320℉ - 392℉).
How long did this take you? Do you have any recommendations for resources for doing that your first time? I have been looking for a step-by-step video, but your video gives a great overview!
hi please, can you help.do you know for a moster 185 classic paramotor engine what the squish clearance is from min to max.from the cylinder barrel to the top cylinder head.
Hi, I'm sorry I don't have specific info about the squish clearance.
Does loctite really hold up to air cooled 2 stroke exhaust temps,i dont think so,awesome video non the less bro!!!
Hi, i hope you can help, as you seem to have quite the experience maintaining your moster! After my 25h maintenance , my power band is not constant especially at cruise rpm, which is 6000rpm. My motor runs smooth, rich, yet when it reaches 5800rpm and while I continue to throttle slowly, nothing happens for like 2 to 3 mm of throttle abd then suddenly it jumps to 6800rpm (climb). I cleaned the throttle handle and its cable, and adjusted the hi/lo screws on the carb bit i still face the prob. Any advices?
This pretty common with the Moster...mine does the same thing, although I think its gotten worse as I near my first 100hrs. Hopefully a carb rebuild and the 100hour will smooth this out a bit. I do think its just something inherent with the 185 though.
Hi, why did you change the cylinder cap?
Gonzalo Pesquera Hi, though the old one was pretty clean it was faster to replace than clean 😀
Just wondering why you replaced the cylinder head and not clean the old one up ??
I just had an extra one, so I avoided cleaning 😅
Ok, Starter dogs & spring, cylinder head and gasket, piston, piston rings, gudgeon pin and spring clips, top end needle roller bearing, clutch bearings, micro v belt, belt re- tension, header pipe flange, air filter, reed valves and gasket, carby kit and a new plug. That's the easy part, but where do I find the GLOVES. LOL. Seriously though, nice work Kimmo. I'm looking at buying one of these bad boys early next year, so for future reference, was that a complete overhaul kit or did you need to order individualy? Thanks in advance.
I ordered parts individually. In owners manual you can find all parts what you need to replace and of course I can borrow the gloves for you :D
I've think I've watch nearly all the Moster 185 Plus service video's there is on offer by now and besides the Vottorazi Factory video's your is the only workshop that looks like you could also perform brain surgery in, it's so clean.. Anyway, what type of stand are you using to support the engine?
Oh thank you! The stand is just a self modified old industrial table with wheels 👌
Nice 1, thanks,,
What did you do to the muffler after removing the end cap off?
I replaced the noise absorbing material
Amazing. I am just about to have to do the 100h service. Was there any part that was difficult? Anything you'd do different?
Thank you Harry! It was really straightforward without any problems. What would I do different? I would fly at least 50+ hours more before this maintenance 😉 The engine was in so good condition 👍
Good to know. Hopefully mine is as easy.
Those yellow engine mount bushings look fresh. Where did you get those?
Made by viking ppg 👌
Why did you disassemble the muffler? I don't own a para-motor yet but leaning toward the Scout, a lot of features I like but wondering if that is a wise choice for a beginner since it might need to take a few accidental bumps, this is the only reason I'm thinking flat top. Due to cost I really don't want to buy one then once I learn how buy another, any inputs appreciated. But back to the original question, Why take apart the muffler?
Hi Chris! Inside the muffler there is noise absorbing material that you can replace. I think Scout is a good choice for the first paramotor. Features that Scout have helps you a lot especially in the beginning. You don't have to worry about the behavior of the paramotor you can focus to flying. I think that is the key you don't need to take those bumps 😊
Thanks Kimmo, that sells it, just want to boost my savings first, till then learning what I can by reading books on the subject and watching videos of others.
Flat Top!
Hienoja videoita oot tehnyt Kimmo :)
Hehe, kiitti Tuomas 😆
Came here from Tucker Gott page and had to subscribe, this gotta be the best video i have come across on the vittorazi reconditioning of the motor.
WOW
Damn, this was thorough. Is this yours, or are you doing it for someone else?
This was mine. My first maintenance so i was a little bit curious :)
@@Kimmo_Sorjonen Nice. It looks like you did a hell of a cleaning and maintenance job. Top notch.
I think I will have to buy a new motor every 99 hours ;)
Henrik I made this video especially for you. Like you can see on video it took less than 5 minute to maintenance the full engine 😉
Great video. Looks like you've service than required for 100hrs. Whats the total cost of maintenance? I'm interested vittorazi 185 plus. Thanks
Thank you Adam! Spare parts for moster are pretty cheap. Total cost for this maintenance was about 250€ (~300$). 👌
Kimmo Sorjonen Thats good news. Do you make your purchase from Vittorazzi or dealers?
I ordered parts from dealer.
Great video! Arrived from Tucker’s channel.
What’s the name of this music track please?
Hi Mike, sorry I can't remember what this song was. I found it in from youtube music library. I will try to find it again for you!
Very nice video. You seem very at home with your tools. Do you do it for a living?
Hi! Thank you! No I'm not doing this for living. I just enjoy to play with tools :)
I wish you could do the 100 hours on mine. Do you have a reference someone that would do a good job like on your video?
Missed the cylinder, dooohh.
Great video, where are you located at ?
Thank you! I live in Finland.
I wish you lived in the states ! you would be doing all my repairs and maintenance. You do such precise work, its amazing to watch a professional at work. Thanks Kimmo
Hienoa👍
Kiitoksia 👍
No actual information?
Not even one bit?
Did you close your eyes throughout the whole video??? He showed you EXACTLY what you need to do!!!!!
read the manual
Nättiä.
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So a top end rebuild at 100hrs. Hell a 100hrs still seem like a lot for a motor than cranks out 8500rpms all the time. When to do a complete rebuild, like lower crank bearings and seals? I sure would think at 200hrs you would have to do a complete rebuild. And at that point its probably cheaper to just buy a new motor, if you had to pay someone to rebuild it.. Unless you have the skills. and tech to do everything yourself correctly. :) Thanks for sharing
Thank you! Yes after 200 hrs you have to do complete rebuild. Engine is very simple and parts quite cheap so better to do by yourself 👍
i will bet my ballsack that motor aint done 100 hours run time
Just a little over 100hr 😊
@@Kimmo_Sorjonen Did this expert ever pay up!? ;)
Nice rebuild man - I'm trying to decide between a 2 or 4 stroke paramotor.... How has this Vittorazi been treating ya?
looks like this engine did not really needed the maintenance like this. It could have done with another 100 hours. I gues you only know when you take it appart.
Way too much work. My polini 130 takes about 10% of that to keep it running at 100 hours...just decarbon the piston.
Lose the rediculous"Epic" music!
Wish you would do this without the music and just talk us through it.
This video would have had more value if it was informative... I'd like to do my own Maintenance on my motor and this does not offer any methods and techniques...
Michael thanks for your feedback! This was my first maintenance for this engine so I was just learning by doing 😆
lose the fucking music