Mehdi Sits Down with Two Ex-Israeli Soldiers to Talk Violence in Gaza
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- "After serving in Israel’s war against Gaza in 2014 and seeing their country’s military operations up close, Benzion Sanders and Ariel Bernstein, two former special forces soldiers, turned into anti-occupation activists and have been speaking out ever since against their country’s brutal oppression of Palestinians.
They joined ‘Mehdi Unfiltered’ to discuss what they learned from their own Gaza experience and how they view the current Israeli campaign in Rafah - and the right-wing trends in Israeli society.
“Destroying a whole neighborhood and all the buildings that we've seen and been inside for no apparent clear reason, seems to me - I don't know if it's a war crime or not, according to international law - but it seems like a crime. It seems like something that I am ashamed that I took part in,” Bernstein told Mehdi.
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Well done to these men to speaking out against the horrible crime against Palestinian people.
"O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice,as witnesses to Allah/Creator,even as against yourselves,or your parents,or your close relatives"
Holy Quran (4:135)
Especially because speaking out on this issue publicly will likely paint a target on their backs in regards to their own government and fellow countrymen. I fear for their safety because I can easily see this become a scenario of how "No good deed goes unpunished".
@@Molue_I see a lot of people that spoke out getting jailed .
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Your comment did sound like a nice comment. ZioN-ist perhaps?
The US government needs to stop military funding for these israeli psychopaths.
@@johnMCMANUS-pi1kd I remember reading an article of some Israeli high school principal (or whatever the Israeli equivalent of high school is) being intimidated by crowds that included *some of her OWN **_STUDENTS_* just because she _dared_ to *express concern about **_deaths of CHILDREN_** in Gaza.*
Israel must be held accountable for war crimes and Genocide in Gaza And Rafah....
Who should be held accountable for the war crimes of Oct 7?
@@R4NDLLThe IDF
@@R4NDLL those that committed them obviously.
@@R4NDLL Those that committed them, not the women and children of Gaza. You do know that collective punishment is a war crime and deeply wrong on all levels?
@@Sa.r.a.hkeyboard warrior 😂😂😂
Why is this genocide being referred to as a "war"... which kind of assumes that there's someone fighting on the other side ?? The dead children ??
Exactly! I hate hearing the word war !
You are correct.They are trying very hard to make it appear like a war.In reality it is just a wholesale killing of women and children and wanton destruction of infrastructure. There is no army on the other side.
Because you referred to previous genocides as "justified resistance".
Hamas is on the other side
Calling this conflict a war is like calling an adult beating a child a fight
Mehdi is right when he said "we don't agree on everything" i think that those two brave guys are still stuck on their belief that Zionism is nevertheless a good thing and that it's all the "right wing's fault". If i could i would invite them to listen or talk to some of their rare fellow anti zionist israelis like Miko Peled and Ilan Pappé. Their activism is pointless if they don't realize that their state's regime is inherently nefarious.
Yes what they said didn't sit right with me. Still on the wrong side!
@@aminatangomdiop7120 surely. They however sound like they are open to be a little bit more enlightened.
Zionism has immoral aspects about its implementation related to displacement and dispossession. It is not an evil concept, especially when it was formulated at the time of great Jewish persecution.
Thank you Mehdi Stop genocide Free Palestine
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Mehdi you’re a HERO. Go and clarify the clear truth for us. 🎉
God bless them for speaking out the truth ❤
Please don’t bless them. They are still occupying the land. They just wanna save their own asses.
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❤ ....
Inshallah
From the Sea to the River
Palestine will live for ever
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Thank you, Ariel and Benzi, for your courageous stand, humanity, and taking a high moral ground for peace and justice for all. I am a Palestinian doctor and have many Jewish close friends and colleagues. we are like you so horrified by the suffering of the innocent hungry, wonded and dehuminised people in Gaza. Lets keep talking peace peace and only peace ❤❤
Thank you Ariel and Benzi, you are so humane, appreciated
Three intelligent people having an intelligent conversation - no lies, no obfuscation and no dehumanising language.
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This is a conversation, not Piers
Morgan
Refreshing, isn't it?!
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Israeli children are being brought up in a toxic environment where hate and apartheid are the norm. Having lived in South Africa during apartheid and after liberation I can testify that freedom brings a sense of relief for all.
Thank you for this comment.💜🕊️
Thank you guys, for standing up and exposing the injustice. Thank you.
I’m glad I can watch Mehdi again
Well done Mehdi
Only respect for these two youn men for speaking out the truth.
He had a very hard time admitting they had committed war crimes, afraid to be held accountable? If you’re coming out against your govt, you have to tell the whole truth.
I wouldn't admit I did something wrong just because you said it was.
Germany had a "Jewish Problem", and created a solution.
Israel has a Palestinian problem and ...
What solution dud germany create? Shouldn't grrmany give up their land to j@ws?
Honestly.
@@veramae4098 ... should stop committing the same crime of all crimes
To Mehdi. Thank you for bringing these people on. May I suggest others? Lia Tarachansky a film maker born in Ukraine raised in a West Bank settlement. a recovering settler, Orly Noy on the board of B'tsellem born in Iran raised in Israel, and Noam Schusler Ellasi a commedian raised in Neve Shalom.
The world need to hear from Israelis who get it.
Greetings from Ireland .. BDS apartheid Israel .. Free Palestine!
I’m so sad for this world and humanity in general.
Much respect to people speaking out
Thank you and Allah SWT bless you Mendi Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇲🇦
God bless them for speaking out the truth
Allah bless you Mendi
Ameen
Mehdi*
I gather that the Israeli soldiers aren't trained in the Geneva Convention, if they don't know what constitute a war crime.
Palestine will be free! In sya Allah
Ameen Ya Rabb
Insha Allah
Inshallah
Inshallah
Ameen
My cat says:
It's not antisemitic to say what Israel is doing now is wrong!🐱👍
what they have been doing for 75 years plus you mean......they are the Nazis now after their grandparents suffered from Nazis. Unfortunately they learnt all too well from the treatment they got in the 1930/40s.
Your cat is correct ANTI ZIONISM is nothing to do with ANTI PALESTINIAN SEMITES
Salute to these two. This is unlike US army that has been doing this again and again in Vietnam, Afghanustan Iraq etc. Despite thay they have been defeated again and again but they are never ashmaed of it.
to be fair, there have been many brave american ex-soldiers who have spoken out like these two young men against the wars in vietnam, iraq, and afghanisan
These two humans show me that there is still hope
The IDF soldiers lives will never be the same again, they will need counseling for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.😥
y que de las vidas de los palestinos?? ahhh?? ellos eligieron en su momento asesinar a inocentes, no eran niños para tu información
Of course not, those who have or develop a conscience will be permanently scarred in some way by having participated in the blood frenzy. On the other hand,, according to Jewish-Hungarian trauma specialist Gabor Mate, the Palestinians don’t ever get to a post traumatic state as their trauma has been kept current and ongoing for decades.
@@alisoninchausti1080 Unless you are psychopath, everyone has a conscience, even people that do horrendous things. When Israelis claim antisemitism anyone criticizes the Israeli government or Zionism, that's their conscience in conflict with reality. They need others to agree that they are the good guys. Psychopaths don't care what the world thinks.
People will go to great lengths to calm their conscience. The best way to to realize what you are doing is wrong and adjust your actions. The worst way is to bend reality to your actions, suppress your ability to empathize and just keep doing what you are doing so you don't have to change. Israel is choosing the latter and as long as they do, they won't achieve peace.
My empathy is very limited. They choose to live under a violent Apartheid System, enjoying every privilege, and only after commiting atrocities, they develope a conscience?
@foxxyboxxy9348
Totally agree. PTSD at this point is luxury for the Palestinians.
Keep going Mehdi Hassan🫡❤️
Unfortunately only 2 soldiers who realised how heinous their actions were the majority or 99 per cent have absolutely no remorse
Bravo to these two young men for their courage to speak truth to power and for having a conscience to do what's right.
Thanks Mehdi !
These Israelis are calculating their words carefully, make no mistake they wanna see the death of the resistance they just don’t like “how Israel is going about it”. 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
There's not many good jews
You are speaking the words of one who is horrified by what is happening in Gaza, I am with you there, but you are not right on these young men. Do more research on them and what they stand for. Their needs to be more dialogue and these are the kinds of Israelis who also want dialogue. We need people like this! They are good folk who are trying to make life better for the current people of Israel and the people of Palestine.
They are helping.
DO YOU CONDEMN ISRAEL FOR THIS GENOCIDE !!!!!!!!!!!!
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I've heard Ariel and Benzion before, on other programs, and I can't tell you what solace and encouragement it is, to hear first hand and to know there are others who feel this way.
I attended a few public meetings of Breaking the Silence in Jlm, including one that prompted MK Miri Regev to shutter Barbur Gallery, and another after then Ed Min Naftali Bennett barred them from schools.
To fellow viewers I recommend their excellent publications, in Hebrew or English. These guys are our future.
Wow you can tell their experiences damaged them intensely.
Well done, Zeteo 🤟. These soldiers raise a great point, the endless occupation and violence has an effect on the perpetrator as well.... It feeds into a national psyche that is traumatized and caused trauma because that's all it chooses... Human beings should do better!
from the river to the sea,Palastain will be free.
Palestine
These men are heroes. We should remember that there are Israelis opposed to their fascist government.
Not that many and the majority of them are mad that the leopards are eating their faces now.
Humanity always kicks in...
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Mehdi Hassan, God Bless you.
Thousands of love and respect to these two great people and Mehdi for his hard work and effort to make the world a better and safer place 💙 ❤️ ♥️ 💜 🙏 💕
THE TERRORIST CANNOT SILENCE AND STOP MEHDI UNFILTERED.
Cannot silence? I I think you need to edit your comment from a grammatical perspective. Do you mean they cannot be silenced, cannot stay in silence, cannot silence others - many ambiguities there.
I think he means that Mehdi can't be stopped exposing the terrorists warcrimes ( in this case the IDF) but yeah I was confused as well
He means , I'd take it, that Mehdi will not be silenced by the terrorists who had him fired because of the way he asked questions of the zionist.
@@brenkelly8163 The terrorists, i.e, the zionists who have influence and/or own the media and narrative will not silence Mehdi. Mehdi was fired from his previous post as interviewer for asking questions of the zionists.
@@astro3213 thank you. Good thinking.
Hey Medhi how about inviting Sangita on to your show..
Hey Pete How about no
@AN-fv2zv How about yes to know why she got fired for speaking the truth SMH 😂🤣🤦♂️
IDF Standard operating procedure in ocupied Palestine for last 60 years. Only now someone noticed😢
Yep, they've been doing exactly the same thing since at least 1948.
I'm listening to 'The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine' by Ilan Pappé - which is essential btw - and I'm so struck with how much it sounds like now. Even before the IDF officially existed.
THANK YOU GUESTS AND MEHDI..I LOVE THIS UNFILTERED SESSION.❤❤❤FROM MALAYSIA, FREE FREE PALESTINE FOR MUSLIM, CHRISTIAN AND JEWS TOGETHER.
A highly informative, timely and insightful interview with these two gentlemen who are still coping with the horror of their mandatory military service from 2014. Though Ariel appears to be further down the path of healing, both seem to still be at a level of denial when it comes to the heinous crimes committed by their psychopathic gov't leadership and its gaslighting justifications for such brutality imposed on innocent civilians. Therapy as victims of narcissistic abuse (imposed by their gov't) could be a positive first step in their healing journey. Either way, this current catastrophe in Gaza must have opened up for them the horrors of 2014 all over again.
I think they’re a lot further than a “first step” in their healing journey
Somehow the Palestinians need someone to be their ,Voice.
The Tick Tock videos are showing, Benjamin Netanyahu's, affect upon ,his soldiers - drunk on the Love of Power --- instead of being aware of the Power of Love.
The fact is that the illegal stolen land from the Palestinians didn’t belong to (eastern) Europeans, who where shipped by thousands in the beginning of 1900. And isreali politicians had always the goal to expend the stolen land. So a peaceful society can never be achieved by those who sheet, steal, lay and kills.
A peaceful society (like before for hundreds of years, until the Belford declaration) can only be achieved by those who follow the way of the prophets (Muslims)! For us we have absolutely NO problems with living and sharing with others (Muslim or none Muslim), but we don’t like those who oppress and spread corruption on earth.
I appreciate the time this gentleman’s had taken. Very brave to speak out.
The problem with the Palestinian heralding his rights to their land as being superior to the rights of the Israeli to the same land, is that both tribes have been there for so long now that neither one can be evicted.
The ONLY solution to the problem is that both tribes live together in peace. I propose a Democratic One State solution. There is no other option.
As a Muslim myself, I know what Muslims are; they are human beings. Some are what you describe: tolerant, accepting of others, and willing to share with people of different beliefs. Unfortunately, there are also those who are violent and intolerant, and who view religion only as a tool to dominate others and use it to beat them into submission. The way I look at the world, this applies to people of all faiths; those who lust for war and dominance rise to power through their relentless obsession with imposing their will on others, and those who crave peace rarely stand in their way. That's why both Israel and Saudi Arabia are ruled by mad men who bomb and starve thousands of children without a second's hesitation or remorse.
Very well said thank you.
Yes, the US government absolutely needs to stop their military funding for these israeli zionist psychopaths.
@skyelark5511 The land is sacred to all the Abrahamic religions so its only fair for it to be a democratic one-state with them all living together. So I agree with your view. However, these two groups have this embedded hatred that has grown within themselves, so, to me, even though my dream is for a one state solution, this just seems extremely difficult to achieve. Children on both sides are taught to hate the other. I've seen videos of this from both sides, it's disturbing. As a Muslim, I feel that this notion that ppl think we "hate J3ws" is absurd. What's sad is Isra3l has tied their policy toward pals as a J3wish policy which I find absolutely wrong. Also, the idea of a country to be ONLY a specific religion is not possible because everyone has their own thoughts and beliefs anywhere you go. Here's to hoping some ppl (moderate pals and isra3lis) can come together for a resolution. ✌️
@@krazed1102 I agree with you all the way. One state would be nice, but it's unrealistic given what has taken place there in the last 100 years.
I think the further away we get from the time those religions appeared, the less sense it makes to judge people based on them. Some Muslims do hate all jews and will say the worst things about them while others don't, and the same applies for jews and how they view Muslims. Good and evil exist in all groups.
Yes, it would be nice for moderates to prevail, but moderates by their nature are tepid and non-confrontational as opposed to the loud, persistent, and relentless extremists
I'm furious and really don't want to look at these guys faces....But I gotta say great interview all 3 of you guys ✌🏻
Why are you angry at them though?
Events of past few months have left little doubt that there are two different factions of Zayo NOT-Z:
Those who are denying the Palestinian Hollowcost and those who are insisting to carry on with a Palestinian Hollowcost
*Rest* *in* *Power* *Aaron* *Bushnell* I will never forget you and your last words of " *Free* *Palestine* "
Great work Zeteo Team, the facts are plain for all to see on this platform.
This truth a little too late
It's never too late.
It's always better to be late than to never start.
Also these men have been activists for a long time, They didn't start speaking out on October seventh.
They're thoughtful and pushing for peace, these guys are alright. 👌
“A little too late” clucked the dipshit from behind his keyboard
Thank you for sharing their story!!! It’s good to understand what the activists in Israel are thinking.
Israel has lost all support from normal folk, it’s gone beyond retaliation
Very illuminating to hear these two courageous young men. Thank you, Mehdi.
Is the foreign lobbies in America going to shutdown Zateo the way Israel shut down Al Jazeera 😢
No they can't because he owns it.
Naaah
We in the US have a first amendment, which guarantees freedom of expression.
@@stevesmith291 yeah we do, at least in theory ...
Theyre also planning to shut down Tiktok
Well done to these young men to speak out against their own people when they don't really don't have to.
At last, the realisation that most ordinary people are just cannon fodder.
Salute to these two true soldiers who have maintained their integrity and are accepting the crimes they have seen. Hope many more IDF soldiers and officers soon realise what they are doing is criminal. USA would support Israel no matter what, only Israelis themselves can stop the carnage and move toward permanent peace without apartheid element.
*“Take advantage of five before five: your youth before your old age, your health before your sickness, your wealth before your poverty, your free time before your busyness, and your life before your death.”* Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
Only journalist I trust and show I like. Keep it up. May God keep you safe.
David Theo Goldberg perfectly sums up the necropolitical logic that underpins Israel's Zionist settler colonial project. For the Israeli Zionist regime, the security and life of Israelis are dependent on the death, destruction, and control of Palestinians, but, as Goldberg points out, this logic has and continues to motivate counter-killing that produces insecurity for those the Zionist regime claims to protect. Histories of colonial and settler colonialism have taught us long ago that colonial domination and repression produce resistance to the dehumanization, humiliation, and social suffering to which the colonizer subjects the colonized. Hence, I WILL NEVER CONDEMN HAMAS OR ANY OTHER ANTI-COLONIAL RESISTANCE MOVEMENT. The fact that one of these former members of the Israeli Occupation Forces still regards Hamas as a 'terrorist' organization tells me that he fails to see Israel for what it is: a settler colonial society.
You need to un-go to college
Respect for speaking out and showing your faces. I would be too afraid to do that.
Sorry but I need more than lukewarm words. Both of these x IOF soldiers “still” live in Israel, both have security of a job -they still enjoy their entitled Israeli “right” to freedom of expression while the Palestinian people are denied and have only filming their own deaths as their only expression of truth. Yes, indoctrination plays a role but is an insufficient rationale - genocide is a systematic process, an end goal never to be superficially justified or exploited. Where is the acknowledgment of root causes, underlying ideology that must be extinguished? To me, an indication that these men and remaining Zionists are believable is for them to acknowledge Palestine was never theirs and to leave peacefully on bended knee. Given the depths of atrocities and weight of moral guilt, this would be very small price to pay.
I agree. I showed how tone deaf he was to mention visiting his family in America (NY) recently. He doesn't even see how that is a problem! If there is a limited piece of land, and one people who HAVE HOMES and lives in another country keep coming to the piece of land to live while the other, who have NO PLACE TO GO bc they don't even have passports or an airport also no one wants to take them, are also living there- what do you think will happen? He struggled to admit that 30,000 civilians have been killed, when its likely MUCH more under the rubble. I COMPLETELY understand bc if I was in his shoes, I would also take whatever advantage was afforded to me. Its just hard to know that the BEST voices in Israel about this issue are so in denial themselves (and again, I'm sure I would be too).
Well good thing you don’t matter at all, have zero power and nobody gives a shit what you think 🤷
“Seven million people simultaneously uprooting themselves and moving to another continent as collective punishment for what their government has done is a small price to pay”
- some worthless dipshit from behind his keyboard
Danke für deine echten Worte und Nachrichten ❤❤❤
Problem is not judaism but zionism
Well spoken-the voice of justice is always good to listen to.. Must be difficult to speak up in that society..
What they are doing in Gaza, they did everywhere in Palestine for 76 years but thanks to social media we all get to see it unfiltered, 4K live.
Now just civilians and kids destroying aid truck, again on social media, 4K, live.
Its not just government, soldiers its 90%+ majority.
Tough days, decades ahead for these people as their true colors exposed in social media in 4K, live.
Apartheid period👌🏼
Who was she?
Who was he?
They died for just being Palestinian 🇵🇸
R.I.P you innocent people😔
Bless these two brave courageous souls for speaking out.
If they're soldiers then they are, and have always been settlers. No excuses dudes.
These are really the interviews we were all waiting for , the honesty that are getting out from the people who really know the situation(especially from Israelis) , one thing I got from this , all journalists should join independent media , should create their own social media platform to let them speak the truth otherwise these streaming media are lying to the world we won’t go away of their propaganda .
Thank you Mehdi thank you once again .
This channel is getting really polished and the information is fantastic. This is exactly what Mehdi sought out to achieve and I’m so glad that the vision is materializing
Real journalism
We have come to a place where the only people able to stop this violence against defenseless, innocent civilians, mostly children, are ex IDF. Who are also responsible for these atrocities.
America could ask similar questions: can we exist without military domination of the whole world?
Where Is peirs Morgan to interview this guys
Pier Morgan is monster
The women & men in Breaking the Silence and those who refuse military service in the IDF and those Israelis who strive for peace with Palestinians are a light to the world...
Americans need to hear testimony from Israeli soldiers who realize how horrific the policies of their government are.
Thank you so much for this interview
I don't know .... these men are very courageous and sweet but it's all same, same, same, same: Tell the personal tale of woe, ride on the ticket of being a member of B'Tselem but ultimately hold concern for the continued existence of an illegitimately established state. Where is the firm statement: 'As long as we behave like this, we have no right to be here!' ? (From South Africa, where things were done properly and full equality before the Law was established)
I'm so happy Mehdi created Zeteo. I'm watching everything. It's superb. At long last, some clear, responsible, and thoughtful journalism. What Bernstein said about Hillary Clinton at the end made me burst into tears. Bless these two brave activists and bless Mehdi in his work in bringing truth to light 🙏
All Oct 7ers need to watch this
It seems to me that the Israeli people would sympathize with their IDF and try to minimize 5he high levels of PTSD. Could this be a way to educate the people as to the real methods of their army?
You guys are true soldiers and true jews!
Well done to you for standing up for the innocents!
Very good reporting ❤
The ramifications will be far reaching, today's students are the politicians of tomorrow. Israel will feel the back lash in generations to come, ask the Germans about continual apologies for the crimes of the Nazi party
it doesn't have to be a war crime to be immoral human behavior.
You are such a great interviewer, Mehdi. These men definitely had their own experiences and arrived at their positions for different reasons, but you gave each the opportunity to share their perspectives, giving us insights into what some Israelis are thinking and doing.
Thank you for bring us knowledge.💜
Brilliant programme
Thank you so much for speaking up guys 👏❤️🇵🇸
"A noble heart will refuse happiness built on the misfortune of others " Saadi Persian poet
Fantastic interview. Thank you for posting
Appreciate 👍
Thank you for coming forward and speaking about your experience