Pipeliners Local 798 working in Gillette Wyoming. Still missing is Shaun Thornhill, the journeyman spacer hand on this project. Go to the Charley Project: Shaun Thornhill.
my dad was rig welder 40yrs!! i am oldest of 3 sons been one now for 28yrs an youngest son been welding for 23yrs!! my dad actually passed away on a job at age 62 still burning them rods fast as we were at that age!! all i can say is im 50 now an i hope i can hold out till 60!! pipelining hard on a body an soul!!
@@abelguerrero144 very good question bro. Toxic fumes can really be bad for you if you’re not covering your face all the time. Shortens your life span by 10-15 years when you get older if you’re constantly welding for years and years
What a cool video! Just started welding classes at my community college. It is definitely an art but it looks like it’ll be well worth the time and effort put in to be good at it.
Its not the athlete or the movie star that are the heroes, its folks like this. Its the people that work hard to keep America moving in one direction. I love videos like this. Great job!
I think the word "Hero" is thrown around a little to often. Your not a hero for doing your job. A lot of us bust our asses, doesn't make us a hero. I agree, Athletes and Movie stars are overpaid crybabies, but thats our fault for going to the games or paying for their movies. They do NOTHING to keep the world going round.
Carlos Extromolo if you feel confident and can actually weld on the pipe you first must pass a test at the union hall...but an application must be made first...
Hey man I'm on The east side of the states also got all my certifications. What do I have to do in order to become a pipeliner ? Also if you ever need a helper I'm tryna get on. Thanks -Tyler
I'm a welding inspector and the welders at my job tell me they're going to leave and go weld on the pipeline. I shake my head and tell them "Not with the welds your making now."
@@m6ndohernandez339 inspectors have a ton of weight and responsibilities on their shoulders man I have respect for them. He said not with the welds the have "now" meaning you need to work on your welds. He was being honest. I was told I have great welding skills when indeed I do not. Any welding job for critical work needs the best of the best.
Steven Bernsen you know not what you're talking about. Those welders have to test at every job they go to even if they have traveled 1500 miles the day before,and if they bust out they go home. Then when the job starts, most gas companies require 100 percent xray or sometimes ultrasonic technology. I actually recognize a few of those guys because I've worked with them from time to time and I can say that 798 welders are the best. Not saying that they're the only good welders, but not many have to perform in the same rough conditions. I know because I've been working alongside them for 43 years. Knee deep in mud and dust in our eyes. We do what we do in an effort to get energy to the people of this great country safely and maybe more affordably. We do what we do with a certain amount of sacrifice. We spend many nights in strange beds in strange places while our wives, children, and other loved ones had to stay behind. Then you have to trust the Lord to watch over them and us. Yeah as you can probably tell, I love what I do. After 43 years, I'm fast approaching retirement and that is the goal I've been working for. There's a lot I won't miss but my pipeline family, strong, honest, caring individuals, I will.
@Stephen bernsen, plus ya might get one maybe two welds needing repair cause on the 3rd one yer down the road with a rancid baloney sammich on stale bread and a outa date roadmap.
That's my 798 brothers. Best of the best....the UA Pipeliners. Be safe brothers!!!....Arkansas' UA 155 Plumbers/Pipefitters, disabled retired. United Association.....we do it right the FIRST time. A Cherokee & Choctaw Indian. Look for the UNION LABEL...IT MEANS IT IS MADE BY AMERICANS, IN THE U.S.A.!!! R.O.B./
Anthony Mcintosh I wish everyone could make up their mind....I thank you for the positive comment...however this is shot with a Flip video camera...they're old and outdated, easy to use on a very rough terrain (for me) probably why the film jerks at times ... not only do I have to watch my step, I have huge equipment that could run over me!
You're wrong there Steve....I met my husband on a 36" Pipeline that run from Canada through Washington state....2006...I was a laborer at the time out of Local 32!
My grandpa spent much of his life welding for Phillips 66 pipeline. He and my grandma moved around a lot following the pipeline. Mostly through Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas. That was back in the 50's and 60's. I remember his name embroidered above the pocket of his shirts and the creases in the slacks of his gray uniforms. And his Phillips 66 flatbed truck he drove with the big welder on back. He always had a shop where they lived, with a little fridge full of beer and cans of Prince Albert laying around. Wish I could go back there.
John Smith I know it’s been a while since this comment but it brought back memories of me visiting my great uncles shop back in the 70’s. I bet you can remember how it smelled. My uncles shop had wood floors and smelled like mildew on cutting oil. It was dark, damp and awesome.
Real men real women real work and for real team work love to see it that's how America was built wish I could be part of this operation kudos to all you guys and gals
Amen brother! 🙏 we had a foreman that referred his pipeline to a rolling wheel and every spoke had their job to do...it works! Especially Union members busting butt out there!
I'm not sure I would be proud of any Boston union, esp after shit fell off a tunnel a ceiling killing a woman driving down the road, the big dig was a total rip off of tax payers money
Shop welding and pipeline welding are two different jobs. I know a pipeline welder that couldn't shop weld if his life depended on it. Of course I doubt if I could weld on a pipeline and be productive enough at it to keep up. @ 67 I can hold my own on structural and shop welding against most anybody.
Amen...yes ... we are now retired and he is working from his shop...and most pipeline welders cannot even come close to being able to fabricate and build what he does now!...yes I turn 67 in August...
Cheryl I am as a pipe welder with 40 yrs of exp. So I know a little about welding . You did a nice job . The guy at the beginning of video could be my twin . Really
Northern Sweden Welding Depends on the size of the pipe... usually 2 welders, 1 on each side...however, this job they ran 3 bead hands, to speed things up.
They have welding machines that do perfect welds every time for that exact pipeline project ! You still need the guys to set each weld up so skilled labor is still involved.
when i was at Boieng in Wichita , KS . i helped in the weld test shop. and knew some pipeline welders. two of which i had known many years before. i soon found out pipeline welding is a whole differant level of welding. so now i DONT call my self a welder.
I could have spent the entire day here asking hundreds of questions! Like do they bend the pipe on site or at the mill. Where do they do the epoxy coating. How do they weld the bottom of the pipe, how many passes, how many electrodes do they go through in a shift, do they cost the welded area before back filling?? This is so cool!
I am working on another video that shows how we bend the pipe...it's done right on the right of way...very cool indeed...The pipe comes coated already and then laborers coat the welds after they are xrayed...it depends on the size of the pipe on how many passes they will do....
Ha I just took a job as a pipe fitter helper. If you're not familiar with the material it's so easy to just ask questions all day long. Hell it's going on my second month and all I've learned is that I know nothing haha
for those that don't know these fellers are welding downhill progression. I have always worked construction where we only use uphill progression.the downhill creates a more pliable weld.this is needed in a pipeline for seismic conditions.someone out there correct me if I'm wrong or let me know better verbiage to explain why.been welding for thirty years and I never stop learning.its the toughest and best craft.put the wire in fire brother!
Couldn't have said it better...and I'm not a welder...my hubby is...so I ask him all these questions...all he said was PIPELINE WELDERS RUN DOWNHILL! Hey... Maybe the name of my next video...hehe
It depends on the application/process/filler. These guys are running an alkili electrode of the 10 series where the 1 stands for all position and the 10 series electrodes are all quite well suited to downhill (ie: 6010 (5P), 7010 (hyp), 80 or 9010 etc) progression due to the limited flux and slag produced, the extremely forceful arc burn (spray) of the electrode and very high deposition rates. It's a very deep penetrating electrode with very little slag produced that fills quickly and freezes quickly. Because of this many pipelines are welded out from root to cap completely downhill with a 10 series alkili electrode. Per API 1104 as well as the electrode classification and spec this is 100% acceptable. In the Construction Industry you deal with completely different codes. Most notably is AWS D1.1 code for Structural Steel as well as the AISC code book for construction and The UBC/IBC for building codes, all of which will refer back to the AWS D1.1 which specifies that structural members (classed as 1/8" thick and up, because less than 1/8" refers to the code for sheet steel/lt gage) must be welded with a cellulose low hydrogen (due to hydrogen embrittlement) electrode. None of which are produced that have the acceptable characteristics to be used in downhill progression. They are smoother (globular type arc characteristic), less deeply penetrating, have lower deposition rates and produce much more slag due to a different type and thickness of flux, which actually results in a slightly different and tougher alloy of finished weld metal. TOUGHNESS is what you're going for in the structural industry. You also use a different grade of steel that that on the pipelines. Most common pipe steel is A53 Gr B where most structural members must conform with A-36 or A992 for shapes and A500 for tubes. Thgere's way more than this that goes into it and I'd be here all day if I even remotely tried to scratch the surface. But in the end it's simply, different grade of steel, different subjected stresses (pipeline stress is internal and structural is external/compressive/cyclic etc) , therefore different codes are applied and different electrodes are specified. How you weld with those electrodes also by their very nature changes as well. For example you'd never get away with running a root weld on a moment frame with E-6010. 6010 is unacceptable in virtually every application under structural D1.1 code. However, by the opposite metric there are pipe applications where E-7018 is used and because it is an electrode that is specifically produced for uphill only progression, you'll never find a pipe welder weld with it downhill; because the code, the electrode specification and the manufactures specifically state you can't. So there are many pipe jobs where a 60 or 7010 root and hot are run and then it's filled and capped with 7018 or even dual shield flux cored and in the uphill progression. But most PIPELINE jobs that are manually welded are with 10 series electrodes that have the acceptable characteristics I described earlier that allow them to be used most quickly and efficiently in downhill progression that simply aren't acceptable for use in the building industry due to other characteristics that are undesireable in a structural load bearing application where the greatest forces are external (such as hydrogen embrittlement, low charpy toughness etc).
The pancake is to keep the sun from shining and glaring threw from behind where a regular hood is open on the back. There more sealed of like goggles and not as heavy..
Ivor Davies Every weld is visually inspected and then xrayed. .. the percentage depends on the classification of the line...example being transmission specs is 100% and low pressure gathering is not...
It always cracks me up how people post these videos like it's hard to weld pipe or something. Give me a clue stick is so easy and most of all 6010 and 7018 down-hand. Yes I was a welder for 24 years and now a CWI of over 15, yeah I know.
Anton Monteleonus They are stick rods/electrodes..A type of electrode with the flux on the outside as apposed to "inner core" or "inner shield" in which the flux is on the inside..Probably 6010/6011/7018 rods in which the numbers indicate the tensile strength of the completed weld.Ive only welded pipe a couple times but erected and welded up half of the skyscrapers that stand in Philadelphia today. Peace
BMR Studio the pipe will carry Johnny Walker Red Scotch Whisky from a distillery in Virginia all the way to Welder and Fitters heaven where someday we will all sit around and get hammered and share stories from tales of the dusty trail
Great video pipe welding is the whole reason I got into welding I have had a few starter jobs but does anyone know how I can find my local pipe fitters union/welding union in my state?
I did a year in Watford City, ND as project safety manager. Welders are probably the best shit talkers in the industry. They gave me hell just for being a safety guy but it was all in good fun and making the best out of -20 degree temps. From now on I'll keep my ass in south TX.
Sean Gibson It doesn't matter the industry you're in....MEN TALK SHIT! I retired after doing this for 12 years...before that I was a deputy sheriff and worked with men just like these guys! So I love these welders, and respect their work as professionals in their field....they're my ROCKSTARS! We worked in Tioga so you should watch my video... Don't Be H8ters, Because We're 798er's We got to -45° ... it was freezing!
Sean Gibson It doesn't matter the industry you're in....MEN TALK SHIT! I retired after doing this for 12 years...before that I was a deputy sheriff and worked with men just like these guys! So I love these guys, and respect their work as professionals in their field....they're my ROCKSTARS!
They worked out a flat rate for the helpers on this job since we're bouncing back and forth from Ohio to West Virginia at $29.78...welders here are making $53.94 to $55.94...working for Welded construction on some 20 inch currently.
Are you guys running your own business / trucks sub contracting on? In Alberta I've known a few welders who sub contracted on EOS pipeline and facilities when I worked there, they would clear 1000$ a day @ 120$ an hour rate, Some were there for months on end without days off. B-Pressure Journeymen welders, Nice video.
Cheryl Ann Lager i have some important questions to ask you, I got a job to build a ramp, I’m using 6x6 hallow section 4x4, 2x4, 1 1/2 galvanize pipe, 8” purlin and 4x8 corrugated sheeted metal an I will love for you to tell me how to charge for each please! Your feedback would be appreciated thank you
Rauh Welt okay...asked my hubby as he's the steel guy...are you asking about the cost price of the steel? Or the labor involved...are you welding or bolting it together?
Cheryl Ann Lager yes mate it’s the labor cost I would love to know cause I really don’t know. Only bolting up the pice in the column an the others is pure welding.
David Alard The 798 is out of Tulsa Oklahoma they have a welding school, other than that you just show up at the job site every morning ready to go and if you get lucky they put you to work
How would i get a job like this this is cool i would love to work there even tho I've never made a weld in my life... I think having the ability to join 2 metal pieces together to make it 1 is probably an awesome feeling lol
Thank you for making and sharing the video. Lol yes all those guys in that video are true professionals at what they do. You don't run across welders like them very often anymore.
been welding now for about 2 years. working in a fab shop doesn't seem to be cutting it for me. don't get me wrong the work is good but I feel im more suited for this type of work due to my personality. How in the world do i get me some of that???
Cullen Vuong Have you tried welding pipe? There is a huge need for union welders and helpers...you can try starting by getting a helpers book...they are desperately needing them now...make application at Pipeliners Local 798.
I have actually seen these guys in action. Very impressive. I believe they were 329. Pipelines . they were replacing faulty pipeline in California . I was on fire prevention.
They don't get paid. This is footage of an inmate work release pilot program. The only thing to look forward to is a hearty nutriloaf dinner at the end of the day. Still interested?
Levi, I am currently training at a school to become certified in Welding and graduation is near. I am excited but nervous about getting into this industry, mostly excited. What can I expect besides tons of hard work? Any advice?
Bocktai5 Are you learning to weld pipe? That is a whole different ballgame, than being able to just weld. These guys make it look easy...as many helpers that get into it find out! The work is booming right now and should for the next few years. We are union, and travel all over the US, times with family are lean, but the paychecks are big. Good Luck to you...
Cheryl Levi the class I'm taking is training us to be pipe welders. They teach us groove welding from all the positions first then let us get to pipe. Right now I'm on 4g SMAW and will learn flux core and mig soon. Then get to pipe
Bocktai5 Okay...that says more...my advice is apply to the Pipeliners Local 798 Union once you feel confident to weld downhill pipe. That's really the only way to go...my husband has been doing this for over 40 years and is one of the best in the industry. We are soon to retire and looking forward to staying home...as I said family life on the road is extremely difficult, raising children especially, trying to keep a wife interested in all the travel. The people on the pipeline become your family and you'll form strong bonds, making friends for life! Where are you located?
Georgia, My school has strong ties with the local 798 and I was definitely considering that if I can get a pipe cert, Though what is great about welding is theres so much opportunity and places to work for. One place I am really interested in is Aero Bridge Works.
Looks like there's a lot more than welding ...those pipes don't lay the am selves out to be welded greate crew... GOT TO LOVE THE OIL INDUSTRY WITHOUT IT WE MIGHT AS WELL BE CAVEMEN ...
the pancake masks are lightweight and also when you are out on a pipeline like that they give a little bit more of a breeze, if there is any, to the sides of your face.... They serve all the necessary needs.
Was a field service heavy equipment mechanic for many years. Anyone that can hang out in the southern heat all day having molten metal rain down on them is pretty tough! What's a union pipliner get an hour now?
Cheryl Ann Lager I just saw a post on facebook from Charley Project featuring Shaun. Was foul play suspected in Shaun's disappearance? Is it possible he just walked away from his life and started fresh somewhere? I read his DL and debit card were missing. Haven't the authorities tracked any spending? I share ALL missing children and eldery info., but when it's a healthy adult, I ask questions before I share the info.
This was a strange case, as we last saw Shaun on the job in Gillette, WY. There was a possibility drugs were involved, all I know is they found his truck and he has yet to be found...very sad for the friends and family involved.
I heard the real good money is in underwater welding.. Cause of the danger factor. Can anyone tell us the pay of a pipeline welder compared to an underwater welder?
cattleNhay there’s not a lot of wet welding work these days. Divers wages haven’t gone up since the 90’s. That’s why after 25 years I’m building houses for more money. That’s in Australia at least
My father and another welder would burn 60lbs of stick in a 10hr shift. Pass the weld around to him and load another stick because he had to catch the bead as it was heading back to him. Poetry in motion for 10 hours.
Alex Casas i understand that as i used to be a production welder. my fault shoud have been more direct as to why the helmet has a left hand face guard opposed to full wrap around face guard
Because we do down hill welding you only need one side protected, for right and left handed welders...they are made from Balsa wood which is very light and strong...each welder carves it to fit his face...There are other hoods with full face protection, and some use those....Most pipeline welders tho use the pancake hood...fyi
my dad was rig welder 40yrs!! i am oldest of 3 sons been one now for 28yrs an youngest son been welding for 23yrs!! my dad actually passed away on a job at age 62 still burning them rods fast as we were at that age!! all i can say is im 50 now an i hope i can hold out till 60!! pipelining hard on a body an soul!!
May I ask how did your dad passed away?
@@abelguerrero144 don't be rude now the man said in the job and that's all u need to know
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@@arozverde3994 I was wondering if he passed away due welding fumes which really concerns me
@@abelguerrero144 very good question bro. Toxic fumes can really be bad for you if you’re not covering your face all the time. Shortens your life span by 10-15 years when you get older if you’re constantly welding for years and years
@@MRJ37welp it’s not like I wan get that old 😅
Looks like a crew that gets a lot done and works well together
You could say they... Work weld together....
taylor bryan booooo
What a cool video! Just started welding classes at my community college. It is definitely an art but it looks like it’ll be well worth the time and effort put in to be good at it.
My husband has had an exceptionally long career as a welder..now retired, still pumping out amazing creations! Good luck young man...
Its not the athlete or the movie star that are the heroes, its folks like this. Its the people that work hard to keep America moving in one direction. I love videos like this. Great job!
I think the word "Hero" is thrown around a little to often. Your not a hero for doing your job. A lot of us bust our asses, doesn't make us a hero.
I agree, Athletes and Movie stars are overpaid crybabies, but thats our fault for going to the games or paying for their movies. They do NOTHING to keep the world going round.
Heros don't do it for money. Js
footage was so clear!
that's my dream job. I hope some day I'll be giving the opportunity to actualize this dream of becoming a pipeline professional welder
well I am a pipeline welder east side of the states with 6 years of experience as a welder good job on the video
I'm completely new to welding. I've only had my everlast welder for a while but completely love it. How do I get started getting a welding job?
I bought an everlast welder last summer and am practicing as much as I can. How's the best way to get a welding job?
Carlos Extromolo
make an application to the Pipeliners Local 798 union..they will be selling books as there is a lot of work starting up!
Carlos Extromolo
if you feel confident and can actually weld on the pipe you first must pass a test at the union hall...but an application must be made first...
Hey man I'm on The east side of the states also got all my certifications. What do I have to do in order to become a pipeliner ? Also if you ever need a helper I'm tryna get on. Thanks
-Tyler
Been steadily improving my welds on stick and mig through my shop class, one day I hope to work on the pipes
Never give up homie you can only keep improving! Welding is a great trade to get into
Me too. It’s amazing how much I have improved in literally 4 days.
FJB
I am a pipeline welder ! 30 years and still burning rod !
I'm a welding inspector and the welders at my job tell me they're going to leave and go weld on the pipeline. I shake my head and tell them "Not with the welds your making now."
No wonder they hate inspectors
@@m6ndohernandez339 inspectors have a ton of weight and responsibilities on their shoulders man I have respect for them. He said not with the welds the have "now" meaning you need to work on your welds. He was being honest. I was told I have great welding skills when indeed I do not. Any welding job for critical work needs the best of the best.
Great memories, thank you.
My favorite profession in the entire world. Rig Welder. Trying to get it all back again. Slowly but Shirley. But don't call me Shirley.
It would be nice to actually see the weld beads they are doing
strafe777 they won't pass no kind of xray I can promise you that
Steven Bernsen you know not what you're talking about. Those welders have to test at every job they go to even if they have traveled 1500 miles the day before,and if they bust out they go home. Then when the job starts, most gas companies require 100 percent xray or sometimes ultrasonic technology.
I actually recognize a few of those guys because I've worked with them from time to time and I can say that 798 welders are the best. Not saying that they're the only good welders, but not many have to perform in the same rough conditions. I know because I've been working alongside them for 43 years. Knee deep in mud and dust in our eyes. We do what we do in an effort to get energy to the people of this great country safely and maybe more affordably. We do what we do with a certain amount of sacrifice. We spend many nights in strange beds in strange places while our wives, children, and other loved ones had to stay behind. Then you have to trust the Lord to watch over them and us.
Yeah as you can probably tell, I love what I do. After 43 years, I'm fast approaching retirement and that is the goal I've been working for. There's a lot I won't miss but my pipeline family, strong, honest, caring individuals, I will.
strafe777, you could go getchya a block brush 'n go scrub some.
@Stephen bernsen, plus ya might get one maybe two welds needing repair cause on the 3rd one yer down the road with a rancid baloney sammich on stale bread and a outa date roadmap.
Nothing special
That's my 798 brothers. Best of the best....the UA Pipeliners. Be safe brothers!!!....Arkansas' UA 155 Plumbers/Pipefitters, disabled retired. United Association.....we do it right the FIRST time. A Cherokee & Choctaw Indian. Look for the UNION LABEL...IT MEANS IT IS MADE BY AMERICANS, IN THE U.S.A.!!!
R.O.B./
Great skills and great work ethic.
Learning pipe welding in trade school right now, can't wait to be able to start my career
Great quality video! I would have never guessed you shot this on a phone!
Anthony Mcintosh
I wish everyone could make up their mind....I thank you for the positive comment...however this is shot with a Flip video camera...they're old and outdated, easy to use on a very rough terrain (for me) probably why the film jerks at times ... not only do I have to watch my step, I have huge equipment that could run over me!
Cummins for a backbone too. Nice video and cool to see the real deal.
Never seen a 798er UP HERE IN WASHINGTON. There,s a reason why. You guys keep makeing the rules and big bucks. Lay that pipe. Have a good day.
You're wrong there Steve....I met my husband on a 36" Pipeline that run from Canada through Washington state....2006...I was a laborer at the time out of Local 32!
0:07 is that the welders version of sword fighting?
My grandpa spent much of his life welding for Phillips 66 pipeline. He and my grandma moved around a lot following the pipeline. Mostly through Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas. That was back in the 50's and 60's. I remember his name embroidered above the pocket of his shirts and the creases in the slacks of his gray uniforms. And his Phillips 66 flatbed truck he drove with the big welder on back. He always had a shop where they lived, with a little fridge full of beer and cans of Prince Albert laying around. Wish I could go back there.
John Smith
I know it’s been a while since this comment but it brought back memories of me visiting my great uncles shop back in the 70’s. I bet you can remember how it smelled. My uncles shop had wood floors and smelled like mildew on cutting oil. It was dark, damp and awesome.
That's badass!!! Thank God for grandparents willing to roll there sleeves up and do it!!!!✌👊😎❤🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💰💰💰
Real men real women real work and for real team work love to see it that's how America was built wish I could be part of this operation kudos to all you guys and gals
I gave up welding for a living to manage others in the industry. Can't beat a good crew of stick welders! All weather, any position and anywhere!
Amen brother! 🙏 we had a foreman that referred his pipeline to a rolling wheel and every spoke had their job to do...it works! Especially Union members busting butt out there!
I miss runnin pipeline offshore..good video!
Good weld billy, do that 10,000 more times please
the one welding gig I would've like to go on before my disability/ retirement. 537 Boston
I'm not sure I would be proud of any Boston union, esp after shit fell off a tunnel a ceiling killing a woman driving down the road, the big dig was a total rip off of tax payers money
Shop welding and pipeline welding are two different jobs. I know a pipeline welder that couldn't shop weld if his life depended on it. Of course I doubt if I could weld on a pipeline and be productive enough at it to keep up. @ 67 I can hold my own on structural and shop welding against most anybody.
Amen...yes ... we are now retired and he is working from his shop...and most pipeline welders cannot even come close to being able to fabricate and build what he does now!...yes I turn 67 in August...
haha I'm in Gillette and want to do some welding for the pipes. good video.
what fit-up/ bevel angle do they use on these pipelines
Cheryl I am as a pipe welder with 40 yrs of exp. So I know a little about welding . You did a nice job . The guy at the beginning of video could be my twin . Really
Dominick Gulizo
That's funny ... his name is Walter Ancell ... and he has a twin brother also!
That's crazy. All three should get together 😃
3:46 We get it, pipe welders vape.
currently going to school for welding in hopes of pipeline welding got any tips for me?
I didn't know Toby Keith was a welder.
How many people does it take to weld a pipe? Nice video by the way
Northern Sweden Welding
Depends on the size of the pipe... usually 2 welders, 1 on each side...however, this job they ran 3 bead hands, to speed things up.
Cheryl Ann Lager why does the welder need all the helpers and why do they sit in there truck all day watching movies🤣
They have welding machines that do perfect welds every time for that exact pipeline project ! You still need the guys to set each weld up so skilled labor is still involved.
when i was at Boieng in Wichita , KS . i helped in the weld test shop. and knew some pipeline welders. two of which i had known many years before. i soon found out pipeline welding is a whole differant level of welding. so now i DONT call my self a welder.
You will,takes time.
I knew a couple of guys out of the 798. One of them lived around Shreveport.
What type of fast freeze electrodes were they using for the gap?
i think i worked with the guy in the silver single cab pick up here in pa his name was robert good guy
Robert Good Guy...that's a funny name...
what's the best way to get into pipeline welding ? that looks like northern weld co. Colorado btw
I could have spent the entire day here asking hundreds of questions! Like do they bend the pipe on site or at the mill. Where do they do the epoxy coating. How do they weld the bottom of the pipe, how many passes, how many electrodes do they go through in a shift, do they cost the welded area before back filling?? This is so cool!
I am working on another video that shows how we bend the pipe...it's done right on the right of way...very cool indeed...The pipe comes coated already and then laborers coat the welds after they are xrayed...it depends on the size of the pipe on how many passes they will do....
I love it!! Its the little things that cause the largest problems
Ha I just took a job as a pipe fitter helper. If you're not familiar with the material it's so easy to just ask questions all day long. Hell it's going on my second month and all I've learned is that I know nothing haha
Jack Willis o 8th and 778 87u
Roger Klotz hellye
Alot of work plus it needs to be cleaned up and x-rayed to determine proper welding prior to sealing before setting into ground.
Never seen a welding hood like that before. Dope.
Can someone tell me the advantage to there face shield vs conventional welding helmet. Just curious
Heat, the mask they wear allows breathability but not much protection from skin ark burn
That's a cherry welding helmet where did you folks buy it from
i'd love this job
for those that don't know these fellers are welding downhill progression. I have always worked construction where we only use uphill progression.the downhill creates a more pliable weld.this is needed in a pipeline for seismic conditions.someone out there correct me if I'm wrong or let me know better verbiage to explain why.been welding for thirty years and I never stop learning.its the toughest and best craft.put the wire in fire brother!
Couldn't have said it better...and I'm not a welder...my hubby is...so I ask him all these questions...all he said was PIPELINE WELDERS RUN DOWNHILL! Hey... Maybe the name of my next video...hehe
It depends on the application/process/filler. These guys are running an alkili electrode of the 10 series where the 1 stands for all position and the 10 series electrodes are all quite well suited to downhill (ie: 6010 (5P), 7010 (hyp), 80 or 9010 etc) progression due to the limited flux and slag produced, the extremely forceful arc burn (spray) of the electrode and very high deposition rates. It's a very deep penetrating electrode with very little slag produced that fills quickly and freezes quickly. Because of this many pipelines are welded out from root to cap completely downhill with a 10 series alkili electrode. Per API 1104 as well as the electrode classification and spec this is 100% acceptable. In the Construction Industry you deal with completely different codes. Most notably is AWS D1.1 code for Structural Steel as well as the AISC code book for construction and The UBC/IBC for building codes, all of which will refer back to the AWS D1.1 which specifies that structural members (classed as 1/8" thick and up, because less than 1/8" refers to the code for sheet steel/lt gage) must be welded with a cellulose low hydrogen (due to hydrogen embrittlement) electrode. None of which are produced that have the acceptable characteristics to be used in downhill progression. They are smoother (globular type arc characteristic), less deeply penetrating, have lower deposition rates and produce much more slag due to a different type and thickness of flux, which actually results in a slightly different and tougher alloy of finished weld metal. TOUGHNESS is what you're going for in the structural industry. You also use a different grade of steel that that on the pipelines. Most common pipe steel is A53 Gr B where most structural members must conform with A-36 or A992 for shapes and A500 for tubes. Thgere's way more than this that goes into it and I'd be here all day if I even remotely tried to scratch the surface. But in the end it's simply, different grade of steel, different subjected stresses (pipeline stress is internal and structural is external/compressive/cyclic etc) , therefore different codes are applied and different electrodes are specified. How you weld with those electrodes also by their very nature changes as well. For example you'd never get away with running a root weld on a moment frame with E-6010. 6010 is unacceptable in virtually every application under structural D1.1 code. However, by the opposite metric there are pipe applications where E-7018 is used and because it is an electrode that is specifically produced for uphill only progression, you'll never find a pipe welder weld with it downhill; because the code, the electrode specification and the manufactures specifically state you can't. So there are many pipe jobs where a 60 or 7010 root and hot are run and then it's filled and capped with 7018 or even dual shield flux cored and in the uphill progression. But most PIPELINE jobs that are manually welded are with 10 series electrodes that have the acceptable characteristics I described earlier that allow them to be used most quickly and efficiently in downhill progression that simply aren't acceptable for use in the building industry due to other characteristics that are undesireable in a structural load bearing application where the greatest forces are external (such as hydrogen embrittlement, low charpy toughness etc).
Is that LH all the way thru or just after the stringer??
the hood's speak for them selves
what do they say?
Eddie Banda i have one of those and am not welder🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I wouldn't use it !!!!!!
The pancake is to keep the sun from shining and glaring threw from behind where a regular hood is open on the back. There more sealed of like goggles and not as heavy..
Are the rods actually that big on the line ?
thats freaking bad ass!
I think the actual construction of the rds that were made for you to use, the construction of the pipeline itself is a lil more exciting.
You bet it is. That's a big part of what I've done all these years. I'm a blasting foreman for the ROW and the ditch
Good job guys keep working hard
when welds are examined is it just visual or are every weld x-rayed?? also what percentage of welds have to redone?
Ivor Davies
Every weld is visually inspected and then xrayed. .. the percentage depends on the classification of the line...example being transmission specs is 100% and low pressure gathering is not...
hi Cheryl thanks for very good reply
It always cracks me up how people post these videos like it's hard to weld pipe or something. Give me a clue stick is so easy and most of all 6010 and 7018 down-hand.
Yes I was a welder for 24 years and now a CWI of over 15, yeah I know.
the title implies that this is the most extreme kind of pipeline welding or something??? Try welding oil pipeline in the ocean !!!
u did that and where?
shane ward lol uh well I saw another CZcams video haha
lol
God i wish i could have sex with the roughest men
Is that it?
recluse Wyoming is were i broke out in pipe line welding. lived in Gillette for 2yrs
Can some one tell me what welding rods were used and also what type of inspection on the weld ? Thanks
Anton Monteleonus They are stick rods/electrodes..A type of electrode with the flux on the outside as apposed to "inner core" or "inner shield" in which the flux is on the inside..Probably 6010/6011/7018 rods in which the numbers indicate the tensile strength of the completed weld.Ive only welded pipe a couple times but erected and welded up half of the skyscrapers that stand in Philadelphia today. Peace
Oh and they inspect the welds by x-raying them.
Great video by the way
3G structural and pipe welding
man I'm 15 yrs in retired and miss it. El Nino is my welding name
michael El is that easy
Have any of you hands worked with O. C. Abby Bridges or Don Bridges or Danny (Moose) Bridges out of 798 Tulsa OKC. ?
Making some good money here and they deserve it !
Amen...hard work for sure
What this pipe for? I can't recognize the insulation. Nice helmets, nice job, good guys! Thank You for show Us!
Epoxy coated, not insulation. I would have thought Uphand welding would be required.
BMR Studio the pipe will carry Johnny Walker Red Scotch Whisky from a distillery in Virginia all the way to Welder and Fitters heaven where someday we will all sit around and get hammered and share stories from tales of the dusty trail
This pipe runs from Canada to Mexico for transporting illegal aliens in pods like the ones at the drive thru at the bank.
Great video pipe welding is the whole reason I got into welding I have had a few starter jobs but does anyone know how I can find my local pipe fitters union/welding union in my state?
Do they can pass the x rays welding downhill??
I dont understand the video description.... some dude is missing?
I’m surprised no one is screaming about the apprentice passing him welding rods. Who knew that pipe could bend like that.
That's his helper....All Weldors have them...we are union...
@@CherylAnn798 yes I know this already.
I did a year in Watford City, ND as project safety manager. Welders are probably the best shit talkers in the industry. They gave me hell just for being a safety guy but it was all in good fun and making the best out of -20 degree temps. From now on I'll keep my ass in south TX.
Sean Gibson
It doesn't matter the industry you're in....MEN TALK SHIT! I retired after doing this for 12 years...before that I was a deputy sheriff and worked with men just like these guys! So I love these welders, and respect their work as professionals in their field....they're my ROCKSTARS! We worked in Tioga so you should watch my video...
Don't Be H8ters, Because We're 798er's
We got to -45° ... it was freezing!
Sean Gibson
It doesn't matter the industry you're in....MEN TALK SHIT! I retired after doing this for 12 years...before that I was a deputy sheriff and worked with men just like these guys! So I love these guys, and respect their work as professionals in their field....they're my ROCKSTARS!
I think I've worked with them first two guys before, you two ever worked for L-con in channel view
While you're busy welding somebody is stealing your truck
Muy interesante, no conosia ese tipo de careta para soldar, y muy buena calidad de video, muy nitido 👍. Buen trabajo.👍
Awesome !👍👌
Those " shields " say it all , serious dogs .
Great video! Lol at the grinder comments some people have no clue
Right? Clueless is a good word on this one
Cheryl Levi ,
Hi. What are the pay rates for helper and welder?? Great video.
They worked out a flat rate for the helpers on this job since we're bouncing back and forth from Ohio to West Virginia at $29.78...welders here are making $53.94 to $55.94...working for Welded construction on some 20 inch currently.
Are you guys running your own business / trucks sub contracting on? In Alberta I've known a few welders who sub contracted on EOS pipeline and facilities when I worked there, they would clear 1000$ a day @ 120$ an hour rate, Some were there for months on end without days off. B-Pressure Journeymen welders, Nice video.
Gosu Vu
No ... we are union ... so some of us are sent in from the union hall and some are contracted by the welder Foreman! thanks ...
Cheryl Ann Lager i have some important questions to ask you, I got a job to build a ramp, I’m using 6x6 hallow section 4x4, 2x4, 1 1/2 galvanize pipe, 8” purlin and 4x8 corrugated sheeted metal an I will love for you to tell me how to charge for each please! Your feedback would be appreciated thank you
Rauh Welt okay...asked my hubby as he's the steel guy...are you asking about the cost price of the steel? Or the labor involved...are you welding or bolting it together?
Cheryl Ann Lager yes mate it’s the labor cost I would love to know cause I really don’t know. Only bolting up the pice in the column an the others is pure welding.
is there a apprenticeship program for this? if so where you guys from? I'm
David Alard The 798 is out of Tulsa Oklahoma they have a welding school, other than that you just show up at the job site every morning ready to go and if you get lucky they put you to work
muy buen trabajo..
i love my HTP striker stealth helmet.. but i also see the benefit of these pancakes... sun glare is a real problem in my helmet
How would i get a job like this this is cool i would love to work there even tho I've never made a weld in my life... I think having the ability to join 2 metal pieces together to make it 1 is probably an awesome feeling lol
find your local union :)
Why did not used an Orbital TIG welder such as AMI, is that a better weld than TIG?
yes
Alex Choe conditions and production
Lol, that's my dad at the beginning of this video.
He's the best! That's why it has a million views! Hi Joe!
Thank you for making and sharing the video. Lol yes all those guys in that video are true professionals at what they do. You don't run across welders like them very often anymore.
Can’t wait to break out of the shop and do some REAL welding!
been welding now for about 2 years. working in a fab shop doesn't seem to be cutting it for me. don't get me wrong the work is good but I feel im more suited for this type of work due to my personality. How in the world do i get me some of that???
Cullen Vuong
Have you tried welding pipe?
There is a huge need for union welders and helpers...you can try starting by getting a helpers book...they are desperately needing them now...make application at Pipeliners Local 798.
I have actually seen these guys in action. Very impressive. I believe they were 329. Pipelines . they were replacing faulty pipeline in California . I was on fire prevention.
Did you work the Grapevine with us?
@@CherylAnn798 we were out by the 33. And highway 5
@@CherylAnn798 I was with Tommy's water trucks
@@carlossantacruz6248 Of course...we loved working with all of you guys...it was a fun crew...crazy drive up that mountain...huh?
Yeh but wot money they on.. 50k, 100k, 200k, 300k.. please explain
They don't get paid. This is footage of an inmate work release pilot program. The only thing to look forward to is a hearty nutriloaf dinner at the end of the day.
Still interested?
Levi, I am currently training at a school to become certified in Welding and graduation is near. I am excited but nervous about getting into this industry, mostly excited. What can I expect besides tons of hard work? Any advice?
Bocktai5
Are you learning to weld pipe? That is a whole different ballgame, than being able to just weld. These guys make it look easy...as many helpers that get into it find out! The work is booming right now and should for the next few years. We are union, and travel all over the US, times with family are lean, but the paychecks are big. Good Luck to you...
Cheryl Levi the class I'm taking is training us to be pipe welders. They teach us groove welding from all the positions first then let us get to pipe. Right now I'm on 4g SMAW and will learn flux core and mig soon. Then get to pipe
Bocktai5
Okay...that says more...my advice is apply to the Pipeliners Local 798 Union once you feel confident to weld downhill pipe. That's really the only way to go...my husband has been doing this for over 40 years and is one of the best in the industry. We are soon to retire and looking forward to staying home...as I said family life on the road is extremely difficult, raising children especially, trying to keep a wife interested in all the travel. The people on the pipeline become your family and you'll form strong bonds, making friends for life! Where are you located?
Georgia, My school has strong ties with the local 798 and I was definitely considering that if I can get a pipe cert, Though what is great about welding is theres so much opportunity and places to work for. One place I am really interested in is Aero Bridge Works.
well i don't know anything about this kind of work.but i do see the exact same supervisors standing around watching WORK :(
Looks like there's a lot more than welding ...those pipes don't lay the am selves out to be welded greate crew... GOT TO LOVE THE OIL INDUSTRY WITHOUT IT WE MIGHT AS WELL BE CAVEMEN ...
Good job
Is down hill welding easier than uphill welding, generally speaking?
same procedure inverted
quite like to see them weld the bottom, and wet conditions, not so happy then ,, and to make a sound weld.. you guys earn every dollar ya receive,,
Yea laying on pallets in th mud.
the pancake masks are lightweight and also when you are out on a pipeline like that they give a little bit more of a breeze, if there is any, to the sides of your face.... They serve all the necessary needs.
Most 798 welders are either left or right handed and don't switch back and forth. They are usually paired left and right
Was a field service heavy equipment mechanic for many years. Anyone that can hang out in the southern heat all day having molten metal rain down on them is pretty tough! What's a union pipliner get an hour now?
Try Louisiana in the summer
@@dominickgulizo8473 been there done that!
Cheryl Ann Lager I just saw a post on facebook from Charley Project featuring Shaun. Was foul play suspected in Shaun's disappearance? Is it possible he just walked away from his life and started fresh somewhere? I read his DL and debit card were missing. Haven't the authorities tracked any spending? I share ALL missing children and eldery info., but when it's a healthy adult, I ask questions before I share the info.
This was a strange case, as we last saw Shaun on the job in Gillette, WY. There was a possibility drugs were involved, all I know is they found his truck and he has yet to be found...very sad for the friends and family involved.
BRAVO !!!!!!!
How can i apply for a 6g job....?
I heard the real good money is in underwater welding.. Cause of the danger factor. Can anyone tell us the pay of a pipeline welder compared to an underwater welder?
cattleNhay there’s not a lot of wet welding work these days.
Divers wages haven’t gone up since the 90’s. That’s why after 25 years I’m building houses for more money.
That’s in Australia at least
My father and another welder would burn 60lbs of stick in a 10hr shift. Pass the weld around to him and load another stick because he had to catch the bead as it was heading back to him. Poetry in motion for 10 hours.
BS. I worked in a pipe fab shop for 20 years. It took me about a week to go through a 50lb can of rod.
May jet rods in a shipyard.
But never on a pipe job
interesting face protection
could some one explain im intrigued as to the design
thanks
Duncan Harris its an auto darkened helmet that protects against the strong uv rays the weld makes which is really harmful to the eyes
Alex Casas
i understand that as i used to be a production welder. my fault shoud have been more direct as to why the helmet has a left hand face guard opposed to full wrap around face guard
Because we do down hill welding you only need one side protected, for right and left handed welders...they are made from Balsa wood which is very light and strong...each welder carves it to fit his face...There are other hoods with full face protection, and some use those....Most pipeline welders tho use the pancake hood...fyi
These hoods are called pancakes and are not usually auto darkening
Man , it just don't get no better than that ! that's how it's supposed to be!