Frank Turek Exposes the FATAL FLAW in This Muslim Objection!
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- How do you answer tough objections from Muslims? In this video, Frank speaks with a Christian rapper who was confronted with a theological dilemma from a Muslim friend. It turns out that Islam has a MAJOR dilemma of its own!
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You said, everyone (except muslim) believe jesus was crucified. Where is the evidence for such belief? The bible? But the bible is authored by anonymous men; this questions the bible as the evidence.
You said, muslim belief is based on the quran. Yes, the quran is the verbatim word of god; infallible, no errors nor discrepancies and perfect (check this out for yourself).
And, you said, the quran say that jesus was substituted by someone else. No, the quran does not say that (check it out for yourself). This substitution theory was originated by a christian theologian way before the quran was revealed.
I legit thought Frank Turek was going to rap battle in this video lol
Same here bahaha, however it still fulfills expectations
That’s why I am here!
I'd be afraid for the Muslim. When nerdy white men rap it's dangerous.
Lmao 😂
lol
It is known in the Old Testament that life is in the blood. The flesh is the Word.
"Eat my flesh and drink my blood" is internalising the word of God and partaking of the life of Christ. The Old Testament already gives us the answers to this.
No, Jesus was not speaking symbolically. He meant literally. The early Church fathers proove this is how it was understood and your version of it isn't true.
@@dman7668 If you are referring to John ch 6, Jesus was not speaking literally. He was addressing a crowd who had followed him for food after they had witnessed and partook in His miracle of feeding the multitude with 5 loaves and 2 fishes.. They were following Him for carnal needs and they were unbelievers. His words in that context meant exactly what @Jesse-ig8mm said. The words were meant to stop them from following Him just to see miracles and eat free food.
@@RationalJJ No. That is incorrect. Jesus did not say something to them to get them to stop following him. When he says to the people that they must eat his body and drink his blood he is direct about it. The Bible then tells us they say "This is a hard saying, who can accept it?" Jesus does not then correct their understanding of what he meant. They understood him and many departed him over this saying.
Jesus did not want to loose anyone. The Apostles understood that there was no where else to go but Jesus, and they did not understand really either but they trusted in him. Also, the early Church never interpreted it this way, they always understood they must eat and drink his body and blood in the form of the sacrament.
@@dman7668
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
The words that Jesus speaks, are life..That is how He is the bread of life.
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
From vs 66, it is evident that Jesus spoke cryptically to stop the carnal bread seekers from following Him. Had His intention been about not losing anyone, He would not have confused them there and that point with the hard saying...
You seem to confuse this passage with the Lords table that was ordained for believers, not carnal miracle seekers.. The Lords table is a solemn remembrance ceremony. Partaking in it will not save you. The scripture does not teach that. To the contrary, if you partake without following Jesus's teachings, you will be damned.
@@RationalJJ so ur theory is that Jesus was willing to stop carnal bread seekers from following him, instead of calling them out and bringing them to the light? Such behaviour is inconsistent with Jesus throughout the Gospels. When the many disciples thought he was speaking literally, he doesn't clarify any symbolism, but instead, insists on the literal interpretation.
Jesus being the Bread of Life is in context to the Manna of the Old Covenant (which Jesus references in John 6 btw).
And how do you interpret The Last Supper? A remembrance ceremony doesn't explain why he calls the bread His Body, and the wine, His Blood.
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"The Lords table is a solemn remembrance ceremony. Partaking in it will not save you. The scripture does not teach that. To the contrary, if you partake without following Jesus's teachings, you will be damned."
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So Jesus allowed the entire early Church, as well as all Christians to be damned until Luther came in the 16th century?🤦♂ Like do you really believe that?
Eat my flesh and drink my blood means to be appropriated by faith. To consume him as one needs food to survive and live. To believe on Him to sustain us as food does physically.
The Holy Communion is the real presence, body, blood and divinity of Christ.
@@ChristRisenLord
FOOLISHNESS 😈
JESUS CHRIST ✝️ Resurrected body CAN'T be eaten!!!
The new body can walk through closed doors🤔😠
✝️John 20:26
“And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.”
@@ChristRisenLord Please explain? Is there a corps in the closet? Is it magically transformed upon ingestion? I mean no disrespect just don't get it.
@@ChristRisenLord
No. Jesus never said that. In John 6 his disciples asked him about eating his flesh and blood. All the fair-weather folowers left him because he said thus... and he asked if the disciples were leaving also. He tells them specifically that the words he spoke are "spirit and they are life".
So Jesus, when pressed, clearly tells his disciples these are metaphors. He is also THE WORD in the same sense that He is the BREAD OF LIFE. He isn't food, but His Word is SPIRITUAL FOOD for life. He is the word and should be CONSUMED.
@@poppadan4270
I am a former catholic. The catholic church CONVENIENTLY forgets what Jesus says in John 6:63.
They also CONVENIENTLY forget when Jesus says to call No teacher or priest as "Father".
Catholicism adds to the scriptures about Mary being the "mother of God". She isn't. She is the HUMAN parent of the human Jesus. God is the GOD parent of the God Jesus. God only begets God who is fully God. The understand the trinity fully. They do not understand that Mary is not a deity nor is she a more special Saint.
Remember that God's Son cannot be any less God than God the Father. God clearly states there is one God. JESUS CLEARLY says "I and the Father are ONE " and further states "If you've seen me, you've seen the Father"! He is clearly talking divinity here.
Some religions foolishly teach jesus is an angel who became god or a man who became god. God clearly dispels this myth when He himself declared there is but ONE GOD and it is Him! Jesus is our Saviour because God alone is our Saviour. The catholics get this right.
However Catholicism teaches people to pray to dead people against scriptures. It says not to communicate with the dead but to pray to GOD...never a saint!
The miracle Jesus performed with 5 loaves and 2 fish at the beginning of John chapter 6 is essential to understanding what He meant by "eat my flesh and drink my blood." Jesus fed five thousand men and women near the sea of Galilee. A small of crowd of people followed Jesus to Capernaum the next day. They were looking for another meal, but Jesus knew their hearts. So they asked for a sign. Drawing from tradition the crowd said Moses provided manna in the desert as a sign. But Jesus explained it was God who gave them bread not Moses. Jesus told them He was the living bread that had come down from heaven. And Jesus started to speak in metaphors. (John 6:35) He said, "I am the bread of life, whoever comes to me will never go hungry." But the crowd was confused by this language. The crowd could not understand how a carpenter from a small town could say that he comes from heaven. Then Jesus went on to say that "unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you." (John 6:58) Jesus is using metaphorical language as a way to tell these people that He is the way to eternal life. Many were disturbed by the words of Jesus and walked away. How ironic that today people still refuse to believe that Jesus is only way that leads to eternal life.
Beautiful spoken 👌🏽✝️
Vodie Bachum has a great "rant" about the virtual impossibility of the corruption of scripture, I cannot do it justice by trying to explain it, but people need to hear it !
Please do you have some keyword to find the video ?
@@FTerrasson I believe he's referencing "Why I choose to Believe the Bible l Voddie Baucham"
@@FTerrasson lemme look for it and I’ll post the link here ☺️👈
@@MrCurtis61 Daily Dose of Wisdom CZcams channel has it
Yeah I heard that it was epic
Thank you CE.
Um, no.
@@edwardsmith1060
Too late chuckles.
@@gi169I see you in every Frank's video
@@Wildxgiyu
I have been trying to keep up, but no, I've only been commenting on these videos for about a year.
@@gi169
And yet you have still made no impact.
His friend is demonic for saying what Jesus is saying is demonic! 🫵😩👉🔥😈🔥
Right! Denying the Crucifixion of Christ and then calling someone else demonic seems like the pot calling the kettle black to me.
Well Frank never answered the question that was posed. He shifted to another topic and have a answer for that new topic. God wouldn't ask people to drink blood(literally or metaphorically) if he previously commanded people to not drink blood. A clear bible contradiction, which is probably why Frank didn't answer the question.
@@Watcher_of_the_HeavensAisha!!!
@@paulcaroline7697 Exactly!! 🫵😌👍✨
@@Watcher_of_the_Heavens You wrote: " God wouldn't ask people to drink blood(literally or metaphorically)"
Retoric question: Yes He say that about literally, but how do you know He can't say it in a methapor? Luke chapter 22 verse 19-20: And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.
See, Jesus was still sitting with them there and he was not giving them His literal blood nor body to eat or drink. That, just as you said, would have been a contradiction. However it shows your interpretation is wrong, as He for sure used it metaphorically as a picture of how He, Jesus, would die and give His body and blood on the cross.
There is no contradictions.
Wow, beautifully done! 🙏🏽💪🏽
Shout out to the Dizzle
Qur'an 3:54
“Allah, the Best Deceiver”
Revelation 21:9
"So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
Written by an illiterate. 😂
Interesting, so it is written in quran.
Keep in mind, the translation is 'Best of Planners' but the context is Negative action retributed with Negative action.
@@gooseman4177
Allah is the best deceiver the Arabic word clearly say he is best deceiver خير الماكرين. The Arabic doesn’t say best planner that a lie and false translation to deceive non Arabic speaker.
David Wood in the house.
He’s a liar
@@Moist._Robot source?
@@arthura.2587
His own testimony.
“How god destroyed my atheism”
Have you seen it?
A better question would be why Allah had to pull the old Prophet Switcheroo on the Roman soldiers. What, is he so afraid of them that he had to resort to trickery and illusion instead of simply exercising his will?
Muhammad believes in Jesus now. Gonna see him too as the great white throne judgement...
Amen brother.
Yeah he does. Maybe realizes who Jesus is suits him better.
@@greg3072
Kinda too late for him.
Amen.
I love how Chrstian think threats about future judgment somehow make it worth believing in God.
Is the CE site still down? Im trying to read the post "is the new testament reliable" but it doesn't load. The main site doesn't load either
I think they're doing some maintenance
If it was only metaphoric, then why didn't Jesus clarify it when disciples were leaving? Instead, He re-emphasized His point three times in John 6.
Lord if there's another way please , NOT MY WILL BUT YOUR WILL BE DONE , 😮😮😮😮😮 , whoaaa , SO awesome!!!!
That part of the Lord's prayer hit me awhile ago: "Thy Will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven." God loves you so much he will not force his Will on a person. Therefore, to exist in Heaven, you must align your Will to his. All parts of you need to conform willingly to God's Will.
My understanding is the word (DRINK) means to accept my blood as a sacrifice.
Same for (EAT) my flesh means accept my body as a sacrifice.
Drink means drink, eat means eat.
@@harryfaber, no it doesn't.
You eat the bread which REPRESENT His body and drink the wine which REPRESENT His blood in REMEMBRANCE of what He DID ONCE FOR ALL.
@@andrevisser7542 So, drink means drink and eat means eat, but you do not accept Christ at his word when He says 'this is my body, this is my blood'.
@@harryfaber, what part of represent you don't understand?
If you looked at early sources, the romans were demonising Christians, calling them cannibals because they were “eating” the bread/flesh of Jesus. I think early Christians fully believed it was Jesus’s flesh and blood, at least spiritually, not just a symbol
Why is there an organ playing in the background..? It sounds like an alter call 😂
SpongeBob me boy, it’s time - Mr Krabs
This is always best explained by Catholics and Orthodox who have a better understanding of Christs teachings here.
Except they believe it’s transubstantiation. 🤦♂️
His friend is like one those who walked away after this teaching .
That’s actually the pinnacle of His sermon and thats when many of His disciples left because it was such a hard statement. They said he was crazy and demon possessed
This statement is directly related to Communion.
The blood is the Blood Covenant which Christ makes with every believer for salvation.
Unless one makes the Blood Covenant with Christ they are not saved.
What is the Blood Covenant.
A covenant is an agreement.
The agreement we make is a similar agreement to what the Criminal at the Cross made with Christ.
Christ was placed with the rebels on the Cross and He replaced Barabbas, the rebel leader against Rome.
The one rebel wanted the Kingdom which Christ presented at the Cross and asked Christ to be His Lord in that Kingdom. Christ finished the Covenant agreement by stating that the rebel was now a member of His Kingdom.
His promise completed the Blood Covenant agreement. made
To eat of Christ's flesh is to admit that we the sinner who broke Christ's body with our sin of not loving God and others. Matthew 25:31-46. For as we grieve the Spirit we also grieve Christ and the Father.b
Please provide me with historical sources (date in history, place in history, person/people) who first defined what you are claiming. I don't accept any further explanations, I would like historical context please. God love you!✝
I don't think Frank Answered this guy's question. The question was about eating flesh and drinking blood. For me, in his response, he should've linked the actions of the Jews during Passover with the death of Jesus on the Cross.
His disciples called this a hard saying, going as far as to ask who could even understand it; hard sayings are parables, which are not to be taken literally. Christ says this again in a different manner in matthew, perhaps it's a little more clear than his food comparison.
Matthew 11:25-30 [KJV]
25 ¶At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
28 ¶Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
He should asked Catholics.
It all boils down to an exchange of lives the entire crucifixion of Jesus. The rebellion of man was based off of flesh, and the "death" that resulted was stored in the blood (for the life of the flesh is in the blood - Lev 17:11)! It therefore follows that Jesus had to exchange both his flesh and his blood in place of ours. That is the basis of the communion of bread and wine. Interestingly, no other religion that conducts a communion with bread and wine has as grounded an explanation for why they do it. The same applies to the virgin birth which in Christianity supplies proof of Christ's sinlessness because a virgin birth means that he circumvented the Adamic stain established at conception had a man (in this case, Joseph) been involved. No other religion claiming to have a saviour with virgin birth can ground their claim in similar fashion.
Amen✝️🕊️
It is sometimes difficult to answer questions posed by people who do not really want to know the truth but just want to win a verbal battle and malign our Faith in Jesus. People like Frank Turek, David Wood, Voddie Baucham, John MacArthur and Dr John Bennett have concise factual answers that close any 'argument' without causing one. They also give us a good starting point to research more so we can answer with the full Armour of God.
1 Corinthians 13:6 - Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
John 8:32 - And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
*How exactly do countless people Eat someone in Heaven, Drink Their Blood if they’re in Heaven. They clearly don’t understand it’s just a way of speaking. They’re lost people.*
Pray for the bodily safety of this Christian rapper if he repeats Frank's criticisms of the Quran to his Muslim friend.
Pray for the salvation of humans with more potential, than ANY rapper.
Shout iu the the evil Mike Winger Aka The Dizzle..
The flesh and blood thing is for us to have all of what Jesus is . And what HE is willing too give! As far as I am concerned . The warlord want to followed like, Jesus was so he became prophet .
David Wood and while you're at it check out the Apostate Prophet also
Listen to them on a regular basis, but, when it comes to beating Muslims using their own book, Christian Prince is the one to listen to.
@williamkettrey206 yes very much so because Christian Prince a bigger advantage of being a native Arabic speaker whiles these two reason from the English sources of which the islamist are quick to sometimes say seeee, you don't speak Arabic.
It's not as if Turek has no flaws in his own logic
It was not Judas on the cross, substituting for Jesus, no, it was Jesus on the cross, substituting Judas for betraying him. We are all Judas, but Peter in us gives me hope
Good answer to a question, but seems not to be direct to the question asked. Seems to deflect a bit.
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Matthew 4:4 ...Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
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John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
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John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Jeremiah, Ezekiel, John they are all made to eat the Word of God, in other words internalize it.
There are times when Jesus is speaking metaphorically but at the last supper he is not. Living off God's word is not what he meant during the last supper at all.
@@dman7668 i didn't cite the last supper.
@@supersilverhazeroker I know, I am merely pointing out Jesus intended for is to eat his flesh and drink His blood.
@@dman7668 are you talking literal?
@@supersilverhazeroker Yes, the early Church always believed that Jesus was present in the sacrament and that it becomes his real body and his real blood. Jesus clarifies later that this is real flesh and his real blood he gives for us to consume.
an omnipotent being says : no there is no other way?
Kjv ECCLESIASTES 7:13, 29
Isaiah 40:13-14. If He says there is only one way of salvation, that's it. Jesus Christ was born without a human father but all others are born from a man and a woman. Men may have options but His way is perfect.
@@phoenixanimations5233 Let us wait and hold on to our beliefs to other side of the world see what awaits us.
Not only that but the Quran also says that the "word of alla cannot be corrupted" yet, they claim the bible was corrupted...make it make sense. 🤔
That simply means the Bible isn't the word of Allah. Wasn't Matthew, Mark, Luke and John that wrote the Bible?
This was a total non-answer lol.
It’s not a literal consumption of his flesh/blood; although I feel inclined to say that it is not merely symbolic; there is some sort of anointing upon, or spiritual essence imparted into, the communion elements. As for why we are called to do it, we are to abide in him and him in us; he that is joined unto the Lord is one Spirit-it has to do with those sorts of biblical concepts. On the must fundamental level, it’s not demonic because demons didn’t come up with it and they don’t want you to do it.
I agree with the rapper.
So you agree with Dr. Turuk? They agreed with each other.
@@TEMPESTsonofThunder they keep deleting my reply to you.
@@gsit80 yeah, CZcams does that to me a lot too.
Is it me or did Frank dodge this question? I thought Jesus said this to offend the people following him around for “goodies” because after he said that very difficult teaching, only his closest followers stuck with him. Can you imagine if He was being literal? Peter is like okay Jesus, let’s start with the toes… 🤨. Later we see at the last supper what Jesus was foreshadowing.
Exactly what I was thinking. I wonder why Frank didn’t bother to mention this.
Dodging questions is what Frank does.
@@mattslater2603 I’ve watched most of Frank’s videos. This is the only time I wasn’t completely satisfied with his response. Frank does not dodge questions, like you claim.
Jesus was being literal, which is why people walked away from him..they understood him perfectly and Jesus did not say they misunderstood him.
But their prophet accepted everything in Scripture and accepted it as the Word of God, so why is he objecting to the words of Yeshua the Messiah ⁉️
Dr Turek - think about and maybe talk about it one day - Jesus could have ended his crucifixion… as a man he felt that intense pain , physical suffering … they test marines on the breaking their willpower - think how strong Jesus’ willpower was
.....it's just a silly story
@@mattslater2603 You are incorrect it is not a silly story It is actually a fact that Jesus died on the cross. No one argues that. What people arguing question and debate is whether or not Jesus rose again.
FRANK, lets check your hypocritically false teaching. Both liars and thieves and non heterosexuals AREN'T SAVED BUT BOTH SOLDIERS AND NON SOLDIERS ARE SAVED. How can I help save souls when you're disobeying Jesus's command DON'T DESTROY LIVES SAVE LIVES.
"Rapper"? "im a rapper...." "hes a rapper too"... "rapper"? What is rapper? I dont understand?
'Wrapper'. He works in a mail order warehouse, wrapping packages.............
Holy Communion
all must submit to ROME
And you stole that line from Hollow the don 😮
Thou shall not steal my friend
Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
He is the bread of life.
If you have Jesus, you have eternal life.
Amen
@@gi169How is fealty to the disintegrated corpse of a dead cult leader giving anyone eternal life?
god created adam as image of god then eve was created of whoes image
god created adam as image of god then eve was created of whoes image
@@akbarhussainjabrudeen8250
Genesis 1:27 King James Bible
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Both Adam and Eve were created in the image of God.
Jesus also said he's the bread of life. Was Jesus a piece of bread? No. Jesus said he's the true vine. Was Jesus a tree? No. He's the source of eternal life. You've got to read and know your Bible or you are susceptible to deception.
There are times when Jesus speaks metaphorically. But then he says this is my body. This is my blood at the last supper. That isn't the language of metaphor. He is very specific. Also the early Church never taught your symbolic view, which means the apostles taught Jesus was speaking literally. Try to keep up with Church history.
Ehhhh wrong! Leave it to catholics to alway interpret scripture wrong. The Bible interprets itself. That's how it works. Therefore it's most definitely not literal because it would contradict old testament dietary laws. Jesus wouldn't command something contrary to the law.
@@dman7668 islamic dilemma 😅
Yeshua is referring to passover. He is the lamb. His flesh is torn as the lambs were, his blood Is then the wine standing in for the blood of the lamb. Don't over complicate it.
Even in the Quran come on, Mohammed said that God‘s word cannot be corrupted and refers to those scriptures, and basically says that he’s the profit for the Arabs, but says that those scriptures are protected by God, and cannot be corrupted. He also says that Jesus will come again to judge the living in the dead, and he says that only God can judge which in essence, he saying, Jesus is God, and that his word can’t be corrupted, and somebody wrote it down a couple hundred years later, and ignored all that and started teaching people that the Bible is wrong, which disagrees with Mohammed which negates the credibility of the Quran altogether since Mohammed is the profit that was supposed to dictated all of this information in the first place
If Mohammad really believed Jesus Christ is God and died for our sins, then we don’t need the Quran, we can stick with the New Testament, Jesus actual words and deeds. Why waste time being confused by another writing?
Too bad you cant really understand his rapper name..
Wow. I didn't know the Quaran agrees that Jesus was a virgin birth. If you can believe that (which I do), then it should be far less difficult to believe He arose from the dead 😅
The problem with the Quran is that the one who dictated the Quran DIDN'T KNOW the scriptures, but claimed to be the successor of it, this is why he says to keep the law and the bible, but doesn't agree with its doctrines, he thought he did agree, because he didn't know what he was comparing to. He clearly knew some of the stories and histories but had a shoddy memory, and he got it all mixed around. It's basically a terrible fanfiction that somehow became the second largest religion in the world.
Edit: And no surprise he did not know, as even Islamic scholars will readily confess that Mohammed was illiterate.
I don't get it - interestingly enough I have never heard ever any Muslim or Islam acknowledge angels, fallen angels as demons or that which is demonic...
All I've ever heard is Jesus isn't GOD, LORD and Saviour, He isn't the Messaiah, their false god who is a failed creator is Allah and so much more.
I know the Quran is not Holy, sound or of salvation.
They accept that he is the Messiah(wich is very ironic! what is the meaning of Messiah in islam?) but they dont interpretate that the he died and got resurrected even though the quran is not very clear about that
Arabic Quran 9:31 Arabic language confirms Jesus is lord with Allah. اربابا من دون الله والمسيح ابن مريم. The Arabic letter و almost looks like number 9 in English means AND the conjunction. So Allah AND the Messiah son of Maryam as lords .
Also in Quran 3:55 Allah speaking to Jesus telling him will cause you to die or terminate your life the Arabic word is متوفيك.
Another thing in Quran 19:33 Jesus himself speaking saying And peace is on me the day I was born and the day I will die and the day I am raised alive.
The Arabic clearly saying Jesus will die أموت but Muslims change the meaning when translate to other languages.
Sura 4:157 and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him-it was only made to appear so. Even those who argue for this ˹crucifixion˺ are in doubt. They have no knowledge whatsoever-only making assumptions. They certainly did not kill him.
The footnote says: The popular belief among Muslims is that a conspiracy was made to kill Jesus, Allah made the main culprit who betrayed Jesus look exactly like Jesus, then he was crucified in Jesus’ place. Jesus was raised safe and sound to the heavens. Muslims also believe in the second coming of Jesus (ﷺ).
Notice that the verse itself *does not* say Jesus was not killed, it says "they killed him not". This can be read in a sense that Christians can agree with and does not deny the Quran. Namely, that is was not the people that killed Jesus, but rather Jesus Who laid down His life voluntarily. I do not mean this as a conceding to the Quran, but as a means to enable the preaching of the Gospel to Muslims, who need the Lord Christ as much as any of us do.
Islam, the religion that supposedly created Christianity and believers in Jesus by casting an illusion spell on people making them believe Jesus was crucified...for no reason. Islam has to make absurdities like this to get around the contradictions that arise from a false religion. If Jesus was crucified and rose again, Islam can't say "nah uh", Islam has to retcon the events in a an absurd twist of context that pivots the true events into propping up a false one.
All Abrahamic religions are false
Without lies Islam dies. Jesus is the way, truth and life.
Jesus lives ♥️ and is God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑
Without lies all religions die.
Jesus is not the way to anything, especially the truth.
If Jesus is god then Jesus is a monster.
Simple.
@@HUNTSMARTFASTHARD I wonder if you'll ever stop trolling
@@JadDragon
@JadDragon
Do you really think you continuing with the most ridiculous comment is going to break me?
Seriously, it's going to break you more than it will ever break me, oh hang on you are already broken.
@@JadDragon
10 “When you go out to war against your enemies, and the Lord your God gives them into your hand and you take them captive, 11 and you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and you desire to take her to be your wife, 12 and you bring her home to your house, she shall shave her head and pare her nails. 13 And she shall take off the clothes in which she was captured and shall remain in your house and lament her father and her mother a full month. After that you may go in to her and be her husband, and she shall be your wife. 14 But if you no longer delight in her, you shall let her go where she wants. But you shall not sell her for money, nor shall you treat her as a slave, since you have humiliated her.
@@JadDragon
15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Funniest thing believers believe is that sending people to hell is god's win.
Two misconceptions you have:
1) God does not delight in someone being in hell. “The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent.”
2 Peter 3:9
This implies that it saddens God to see someone in hell. He does not delight in the destruction of anyone.
2) God doesn’t send you to hell, but let’s you have separation from Him. Like the quote “if you love me, you’ll leave me alone,” God will not force you to love him. Hell is described as being separated from God.
I hope you come to believe and trust that Jesus died for your sins and you join the family!
@@Juliosguitarstuffs Loving god is pure absurd. I can say: I love mother... but god? I don't know him. Why should I love him? I heard stories about god and I even read that awful book about god where he literally kills kids for actions of some adult. I don't even like your god.
Jesus is the Lamb of God. The Passover lamb needed to be eaten, regardless of whether you liked lamb or not.
But it's a weird objection for Muslims to make. They say it's okay to marry and divorce minors, take slaves, lie to non-believers, etc.
The blood that shed by JESUS is the blood of a new covenant. The flesh of JESUS is the ultimate sacrifice.
Drinking JESUS' blood, and eat JESUS flesh is mark of the new covenant.
Eat my flesh drink my blood means for the acceptors jesus a common measure mean constant of life from nature for all itself world one as usw with its body carrying all humanity as onfa feeding as such life for all as suny all stars h1.1.ness uswonfa soul and spirit for all........
There’s no eye witness
How did you know? 😳 were you there to witness that there were no eyewitnesses?
@@kenmwaniki1331 Christian theologians historians and scholars all will agree the easiest writings of Jesus came 80 years after Jesus left. Nobody who wrote the Bible ever walked talked ate slept or even knew Jesus…. Just do a little research
@@kenmwaniki1331 I am unaware of any 1st hand eyewitness accounts of he life of Jesus
@@QasoMWhite it might be so but that doesn't disqualify the authenticity of what is being said.
Jews have always had a practice known as the rabbinic traditions where a few professionals are trained up to do the work of transferring, translating, recording and preserving scripture. There's also that which we call oral traditions meaning that it had to be a thought first or something stored in one's memories before it was put into writing.
Get this, the Bible was written FOR us and not TO us, meaning there was an immediate audience that the authors were addressing people who had either heard, witnessed or known someone who'd witnessed the accounts of Jesus. With this in mind, there are people mentioned real time people who had families, important people, places, events etc all the markers that make up the accounts of an eyewitness.
My question to you is this then, do you have documents in antiquity denying what was being claimed by the followers of Jesus, people recanting their testimonies documents that are almost at the same time of Jesus' Gospels?
Do we have people denying that fir example, there was no census, no crucifixion, that there was no day that Jesus went to the temple and tore down the money maker stands, that there were no person healed in the pool of Bethesda?
If the Bible was a fabrication, then the fabricators would have had to wait for every person mentioned by name in the Gospel accounts and their families to die, not only these but also the Apostles and their relatives, all the enemies of Jesus and the church, all the 5000 people He once fed to dies with their relatives, all the members of the Sanhedrin including the High Priest to die and their relatives in order to make sure that there would be no one to dispute their claims. In my opinion I think this would have taken more than 80yrs.
Do me a favour go and do your little search in history and uncover documents claiming that the people apart from His followers never encountered Jesus then I will believe you.
Finally today you know of stories concerning a relative maybe a great grandfather you never met who died a long time ago. Does this mean if you were to tell us these stories passed down to you by your father, uncles or aunts we should dismiss you just because you were not an eye witness? Stories that have been collaborated by more than one person? Even if you are separated from the actual person by 40yrs?
Use your logic!
@@kinggenius930 Gospel according to Matthew, Gospel according to Mark, Gospel according to Luke and Gospel according to John.
You could either interpret the term "according to" as "this is what Matthew actually wrote" or this is what was actually passed down to us by Matthew, either way Matthew was involved.
Also take note of the fact that the Gospel of Luke is an investigative work commissioned by one Theophilus. What were the findings? That indeed what was passed down to him [Theophilus] were the actual accounts of what truly happened.
It's funny how when it comes to the Gospel time is treated as an enemy in fact it should be the reason why we should trust the authenticity of the Gospels. By using the objection of the first respondent where he/she claims the gospels were written 80yrs after the fact this should actually be one of the reason to put your faith in the Gospels, why?
Think of it this way, by the time 80yrs had elapsed all the first hand witnesses of Jesus Christ had dispersed, where to? To different cities, locations, regions, countries and the like. Meaning that none of them could have been able to copy from the other or refer to the other person's work also there was no innovation of mobile phones where they could call each each other and make clarifications, so each had to either narrate/write from memory. However when it came to compiling the New Testament so that we may have it as it is day, these accounts collaborated each other, with more or less details depending on what exactly the person could remember. Collaboration was one of the criteria used to compile the New Testament, that despite the time difference the distance, death of some of the first hand witnesses the accounts remained the same.
I will use this example to bring home the point more clearly. I know your father or mother have once given you stories about your grandfather of great grandfather a man you've never met. Assuming they had siblings who grew up with them in the same household. Some of the stories they have told you are collaborated by your uncles and aunts with finer or less fine details. They might have been separated by years, maybe your Great grandfather died 50 or 60 years ago. However we have people who can collaborate accurate accounts of his life.
Does this mean that if you were to write a biography about him, it won't be authentic just because you were not an eyewitness? Infact the very reason as to why your story is authentic is because we have different versions of different people who have encountered the same person but seem to say the same thing about him, either he was kind, gentle, tough and this helps you form a mentle picture of him. Either there was a time he took them for a vacation, during Christmas of the year 1985, there was a neighbor whom he used to visit every day. My point is you cannot get such fine details of a person's life, his day to day footprint, people, places and events he visited if you not an eyewitness or you are not getting it from an eyewitness. It would be impossible to fabricate an almost day by day life of a person for an year let alone 3.5 years.
Just apply logic.
The religion whose followers drunk more blood than Dracula has such objections 😮
Science shows the fatal flaws in all superstitions.
Injeel in the Quran/ Islamic dilemma
Aal-e-Imran 3:3
He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.
✓ What does confirm mean?
Aal-e-Imran 3:48
And He will teach him writing and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel
✓ Does allah teach corrupt scriptures?
Aal-e-Imran 3:65
O People of the Scripture, why do you argue about Abraham while the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed until after him? Then will you not reason?
Al-Ma'idah 5:46
And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous.
✓ Allah gave Jesus the gospel which was before him?
Al-Ma'idah 5:47
And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient.
✓ Don’t follow the gospel and you are disobedient.
Al-Ma'idah 5:66
And if only they upheld [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to them from their Lord, they would have consumed [provision] from above them and from beneath their feet. Among them are a moderate community, but many of them - evil is that which they do.
✓ So the injeel is corrupt or not?
Al-Ma'idah 5:68
Say, "O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you uphold [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord." And that which has been revealed to you from your Lord will surely increase many of them in transgression and disbelief. So do not grieve over the disbelieving people.
✓ The Injeel is the standard?
✓ Ruh-il-Qudus (the Holy Spirit)
Al-Ma'idah 5:110
[The Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, remember My favor upon you and upon your mother when I supported you with the Pure Spirit and you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and [remember] when I taught you writing and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel; and when you designed from clay [what was] like the form of a bird with My permission, then you breathed into it, and it became a bird with My permission; and you healed the blind and the leper with My permission; and when you brought forth the dead with My permission; and when I restrained the Children of Israel from [killing] you when you came to them with clear proofs and those who disbelieved among them said, "This is not but obvious magic."
✓ The Holy Spirit again?!?!
Al-Baqarah 2:87
And We did certainly give Moses the Torah and followed up after him with messengers. And We gave Jesus, the son of Mary, clear proofs and supported him with the Pure Spirit. But is it [not] that every time a messenger came to you, [O Children of Israel], with what your souls did not desire, you were arrogant? And a party [of messengers] you denied and another party you killed.
Al-A'raf 7:157
Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel, who enjoins upon them what is right and forbids them what is wrong and makes lawful for them the good things and prohibits for them the evil and relieves them of their burden and the shackles which were upon them. So they who have believed in him, honored him, supported him and followed the light which was sent down with him - it is those who will be the successful.
At-Taubah 9:111
Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah, so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah ? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.
Al-Fath 48:29
Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward.
Al-Hadid 57:27
Then We sent following their footsteps Our messengers and followed [them] with Jesus, the son of Mary, and gave him the Gospel. And We placed in the hearts of those who followed him compassion and mercy and monasticism, which they innovated; We did not prescribe it for them except [that they did so] seeking the approval of Allah . But they did not observe it with due observance. So We gave the ones who believed among them their reward, but many of them are defiantly disobedient.
Jesus is God
I will provide you the true interpretation of that passage sura 157and it's said, ‘We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God.’ (They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, though it was made to appear like that to them; those that disagreed about him are full of doubt, with no knowledge to follow, only supposition: they certainly did not kill him-
This is one of the most misinterpreted passages from the quran.. MANY MUSLIM scholars have come to understand the original writings of the passage have been corrupted in there interpretations (yes the quran is corrupted) and have come to accept the TRUE meaning of this passage.
Simply put! It means this. "You (jews) never could actually KILL Jesus but it only appeared to you that you did(Not a BS substitutution) .. YOU COULD NEVER KILL JESUS ETERNAL SPIRIT BECAUSE HE IS GOD!! HOW COULD YOU EVER TRULY CRUCIFY THE ALMIGHTY ONE BECAUSE HE IS ETERNAL!!! You THINK you have ended JESUS on that Cross but you could never ACTUALLY DO THAT because you could only kill and crucify His flesh but His EVERLASTING FORM CAN NEVER BE KILLED. His spirt and Soul continue on!! YOU CANT CRUCIFY THE ETERNAL GOD YOU FOOLS IT HAS ONLY APPEARED TO YOU THAT WAY!!
NOT A FLIPPING RIDICULOUS SUBSTITUTE!! What a fake e mockery that is... nice try satan
This passage has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with some substitution and shame on those who have deceived so many people for preaching such a false message!!
This is an ALLITERATION style speech or even an analogy.. it's supposed to be clear to the reader that it assumes YOU ALREADY KNOW. Jesus is God and Eternal and really is arguing on JESUS BEHALF! it's point is that you could never take out Jesus BECAUSE HE IS THE ETERNAL GOD...is that not obvious people????
This sura is CLEARLY and now REPORTED BY MUSLIM SCHOLARS TO BE A COMPLETELY FABRICATED INTERPRETATION HAS BEEN PROVEN FALSE! It has been made up by the false teachers and completely taken out of context. Do some research and you will see this to be true of even the Muslims teach this. Seek out the Lord for real people.. dig for the TRUTH!! If islam was true i would be a Muslim but I have done my digging and it is NOT true, though it still can contain SOME truth, as every good lie has some truth! Long before islam Jesus stood as King and God and long after He will still be the Same.. THE ALMIGHTY GOD.
Millions of Muslims are leaving islam because they have started digging and found that they WILL COME UNDER THE JUDGMENT(by Jesus actually, and who is the only true Judge but God... yeah exactly).. they don't want JUDGMENT BUT SALVATION!! 🙌🙌✝️🙌🙌 Jesus already took upon that judgment FOR YOU AND US ALL on that CROSS!! He welcomes you into His Heavenly Kingdom as LORD AND fellow HEIR ..
what a disgraceful thing to try and steal this precious suffering and selfless act from God The Lord Jesus on the Cross such as this MISINTERPRETED CORRUPT teaching Islam has adopted.. I'm glad Some Prominent muslim scholars are converting to the proper interpretation of this... Jesus DIED for you and ROSE for you and SHOWED HIMSELF FOR 4O days after for YOU! And had the WOUNDS TO PROVE IT!
Romans 10:9-11
9That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved
Be saved my fellow ❤ Jesus wants you and your fellows to escape judgment. He really is The Lord. Amen
Jesus Christ did not instruct anyone to eat his flesh and drink his blood.
Jesus Christ was a perfect Jew, who completed the Law.
He did not abolish the Law like Christians believe. He completed it (meaning, we are eternally bound to it).
Therefore, Jesus Christ would have NEVER instructed anyone to eat human flesh and drink blood.
Not even in a metaphor.
Jesus said unless you eat his body and drink His blood you will have no life in you. He literally said that. You must not have heard.
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"Jesus said unless you eat his body and drink His blood"
---- No, he did not.
Eating human flesh and drinking blood is forbidden.
---- Jesus Christ would never say that.
Some pagan added those lines in the Bible, and attributed them to Jesus.
@@francmittelo6731 Well apparently all of Christianity believed that was what was going on since they all believed that consuming the bread and wine of the consecrated host was consuming his real flesh and his real blood. They were not confused about it like you. They were doing what the Apostles showed them. You have a hard time accepting that fact and I get it.
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Dude, Christianity is not the religion that Jesus practised.
If you want to be a Christian then go ahead.
But, if you want to practice the religion that Jesus Christ practised, then you would not eat human flesh or drink blood.
Even if you are just role-playing.
cannibalism is not okay
I don't know if you believe in evolution and common ancestors, at what point does meat eating cease to be cannibalism?
@@harryfaberLol... wow.
Your reply could only make sense if you have no idea what cannibalism is.
@@mattslater2603 You are safe, my doctor told me not to eat fatty meat.
This isn't cannabalism.
The Quran teaches the Trinity and Jesus is Lord, but it got corrupted.
Great job dodging the question. The blood thing is a clear contradiction and that is why you dodged the question and shifted attention towards another topic. I notice that no matter what questions people ask, you always shift to another topic and then give a answer, you rarely answer the questions people ask.
Tbf he’s getting at the root of the issue. Because with Muslims they will lead you through endless rabbit trails.
The question is answerable, but you have to go through a long explanation of the Passover lamb, the manna from heaven, water of life etc which no Muslim is gonna care about if they don’t believe it anyways. So you must strike the heart of the issue… the Quran and/or Muhammad
@@Brainboxreview The Quran has nothing to do with the question. An Atheist, Buddhist, anyone can ask that question. Frank just didn't have an answer to a clear contradiction in the Bible so he changed the topic.
@@Watcher_of_the_Heavens lol see what I mean? You haven’t even read the scripture of what Jesus said yet you’re shouting contradiction.
Reread what I said, the guy is arguing with a Muslim so he needs to get to the crux of the issue which is the reliability of the Quran. No point addressing these supposed contradictions because you’re just gonna get more objections
@@Brainboxreview I see avoiding answering questions runs in every Christian. I've read the entire bible plus the books that Christian's removed from it. Old Testament god said don't drink blood, so Jesus telling people to drink his blood contradicts what god said.
@@Watcher_of_the_Heavens it was wine dude 🤦♂️
The gospels are not eye witness accounts .They were written decades after the events by people who had never met him in greek . The puzzling thing is why did Jesus not reveal himself to Pilate or Caiaphus, surely this would have removed all doubt for his resurrection.
Mathew was a eyewitness mark the nephew of peter was peters eyewitness account John was an eyewitness Paul received the message of the gospel directly from Christ Himself when he was caught up to the third heaven read the accounts for your self get born again and the light will come on
There is no Jesus in islam.
Just check quran 19:27-28
Islam has an Issa, which translates to Esau instead of Yeshua.
Islam's Jesus is called "Isa", which is actually, ESAU, a Jewish insult name for Jesus, which was borrowed from Jews at the time Muhammad was around
Islam's Mary is "Miriam", borrowed from pseudo-christian Roman Catholics who were guiding or handling Muhammad
Notice that he doesn't answer the objection. Why? Cause we all know Jesus was speaking literally, and there is no logical way around it. Read the entire context, and it becomes even clearer.
Frank dodges again.....
Incorrect. His objective answer just went over your head.
I am Jesus
I thought you were Stephen...😄
You need to capitalize "I AM" if you expect anyone to believe you're Jesus The Christ...🙄
But you'd know that already if you WERE actually "Jesus The Christ" as revealed in The Holy Bible.
@@user-br3ou2cs9o I was trained by God, who was Jesus? a man, a God? someone rejected by his own people? put to death for claiming to be the Messiah, no one could reject him if he was doing what he was written doing, ask when is he coming again
@@stephenkaake7016
He was in fact rejected.
Just as He said He would be and just as He is now.
Jesus IS God.
God The Father, God The Son, God The Holy Spirit just as revealed in Scripture.
He is The Word of God, and The Word became Flesh and dwelt among us.
I know this to be True because I've met Him through and by The Holy Spirit.
Have you been Born Again, do you know?
@@stephenkaake7016 No you aren't.
@@user-br3ou2cs9o God's Spirit was on me, I was a Tool of God, my voice was God's voice, I was an observer to God's doing, I had to obey. I was as Close to as Jesus as anyone could be, like Peter, I learned one thing, people do not love God or obey him, Jesus would be kicked out of Churches
Buddha was a more profound and spiritual character than either Jesus or Mohammed …by far
It's still reverence of a blood sacrifice. Primitive, archaic, and embarrassing.
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This is what Ana Graciela Blackwelder does, she has changed my life.
After raising up to 60k trading with her, I bought a new house and car here in the US and also paid for my son’s (Oscar) surgery. Glory to God.shalom.
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Abrahamic religions are primitive