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Love how zero went to all the trouble of cloning boss when all he had to do was hypnotize a badass rando
Said rando was MSF's best and can 1v1 Solid Snake despite his age
@@Edo_Ginting What is MSF?
@@Haunuva Militaires Sans Frontières, Snake's private military force he established in Peace Walker (and which was destroyed in Ground Zeroes)
@@cyberspetsnaz Peace Walker DESPERATELY needs a 4k remaster from what it sounds like. Konami can even be greedy shortsighted imbeciles and sell the Big Boss Collection for like 80 bucks (MGS3, Peace Walker Ultra HD, MGSV: GZ+TPP upscale)
@@Edo_Ginting the best rando, but not unique. He didn't need the clones, just git gud soldiers
Venom Snake: Kiefer Sutherland
Big Boss: David Hayter
This is what it should of been imo.
I think that it couldn't be done because all fans would have known from the first scene who the real Big Boss was.
If you've seen some of the in game data files in mgs5 there was character that was to be introduced later on named David this character had no assigned voice actor I believe kojima would hire hayter to voice solids lines but as we know konami...
Solid Snake: David Hayter
Venom Snake: Keifer Sutherland
Big Boss: Some other VA
Obviously it should've been done during the days of MGS3, but it makes pretty much zero sense that David voiced Big Boss. Yeah, Solid is a clone but so is Solidus, the most perfect clone, and he had a different voice. There's just so much inconsistency.
But that's true for me, this guy is not a big boss there.
It would make more sense if the guy there was Gray Fox on mission to protect Venom Snake.
Personally I prefer solid snake having the hayter voice and big boss the Sutherland.
It was always my headcanon that Sutherland voices Venom and Hayter voices Big Boss
It would be great that during our first gameplay we hear David voice and then when venom snake discovers the truth he starts to hear his own voice (Sutherland's) and after that if we replay any mission we hear that voice
Kid you not, after realizing the ending my ex and I referred to Venom as Big Medic. Was a partly comedic play on the plot.
And its not like anyone would really know the difference since it was the 70s and 80s.
This has and will always be my dream. It would instantly make mgs5 such a more better game.
@Falfox One was under the assumption that we play big boss in ground zero but in mgsv we play the medic disguised as big boss while the real big boss snuck away
Keep the Prologue as is (as a way to fool Venom & the player) then on mission 46, Ishmael becomes Hayter.
It would make sense too. Venom Snake hearing Big Boss would just think its his own voice seeing as he thinks hes Big Boss
now I heat big boss for doing that because I feel like I was used as a baet to attract big boss s enimes
Would’ve made it worth having to play the dumb sequence again
Fool the player? Players were fooled?
@@badreedinedjellali1328oh boo hoo.
Your name explains your spelling.
Been saying this for 5 years, the ending of Phantom Pain would have been 1000 better if David would have voiced Big Boss in the last mission, that would have been the perfect way to reveal the twist.
And lord of the flies mission was put back in
When i beat this game, i slowly held pit hope id hear Hayter. I KNEW it was futile, but i tried to hope.
Well, you can blame Kojima all you want. And you absolutely should. But blame Avi Arad too.
Blame Kojima for that. Stuck up asshole.
I was hopping that to happen.
I honestly thought that was how the game ended. It seemed like something Kojima would do. Then I found out the Japanese VA was the same---so I was even MORE confused.
Honestly, if they had revealed David's voice just in the Truth chapter, they could have avoided the backlash and it would have been an amazing reveal.
I guess you're right.
If hayter says the truth, kojima jad no love for david.
Yeah. Either do that for a trippy, MGS2-style twist where we find out that the reason Sutherland voiced both the real BB and Venom throughout all of MGSV (GZ and TPP) up until the truth reveal was because we did the first playthrough from the perspective of Venom Snake’s false memories (with New Game+ changing “Ishmael’s” VA to Hayter,)
OR
a slightly toned down version of the twist where Hayter voices BB in GZ from the get-go, but then doesn’t appear again until the truth reveal and New Game+ in PP.
@@morsecode980 Feel like your latter idea would've given away the twist too early. Especially since the medic do sound like Sutherland, even with the voice modification. It was harder to tell that he voiced the medic in GZ because he also played Big Boss. A better idea would've been that after you played the truth chapter, you could transfer a save over to GZ where Hayter voices Big Boss instead and the medics voice is unmodified.
1:05 always makes me laugh. He’s like literally the greatest soldier who ever lived, and his first instinct is to start hurling shit at his foe. I love it so much.
Second greatest tbh. Also he was trying to distract her for when he throws the gasoline or whatever flammable liquid that was.
"Necessity is the mother of invention."
-Solid Snake
@@StrongArmElijah Isn’t that a Plato quote?
@@AesirUnlimited Not sure might be, but I'm quoting it from MGS2.
@@StrongArmElijah I looked into it. What Plato said was “Our need will be the real creator.” Which developed into the proverb “Necessity is the mother of invention.” So Solid Snake didn’t invent the saying, but it isn’t necessarily wrong to quote him for it.
Such a shame David wasn't involved with this game, I grew up with his voice as one of my heroes, he conveyed so much emotion in a character made up of polygons and no eyes! His range is fantastic and brings me to tears every time I replay MGS1 unparalleled performance by David Hayter and the entire cast for that game. Even though The Phantom Pain had so little dialogue I feel it would have been better received if David had voiced Big Boss.
@Uncle Crispy What are you saying?
MGS V was a BODY DOUBLE aka not the real Boss
David did voice Big Boss, though. Naked Snake, to be exact.
@David Hellewell He literally is in this scene.
It has so little dialogue BECAUSE.its keifer Sutherland which makes me wonder what the point was
Kiefer wouldn’t of been so bad if the only things he said weren’t just “speak” and “where are the others?”
Lol so true
His speech about Quiet was the coolest thing he said because it was the only thing he said. (Not to discount that though, shit was awesome).
Thot Exterminator to me kiefer was excellent (even though I do wish he had more voice lines)
The speech where he spreads the ashes was also amazing
Kiefers best line was the low morale scene... "your CQC is sloppy... Come see me later for a lesson you wonr forget"
8:03 Gave me chills. I've never heard David Hayter scream like that before.
He seemed sad kinda if that makes sense.
That audio was from Peace Walker (sorry for being late though)
He did that scream in Portable Ops, Snake Eater, and I think Peace Walker
@sierrakilo4322 yeah the sound is him firing the m63 or the mounted equivalent in peace walker so pretty much
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They really should have had Hayter voice Big Boss. Solidus had a different voice and so did Liquid.
Csn we get a mod of this
yes, he will do it if someone tells him and work with him for a voice mod, tbh that will be a good tribute for 33 years of mgs
Yo man can you do 'if Michael Ironside voiced Sam Fisher in Splinter Cell Blacklist'
Would have been such a nice little surprise to hear Hayter's voice for the actual Big Boss. For all his attention to detail, Kojima definitely made a bad decision this time
No but even in MGS4 big boss is not Voiced by David. He's always been Solid snake.
MGS 3 he was voiced by Hayter
It was probably Konami's doing tbh
@@foxgreygaming4646 most likely kojima since hayter has mentioned how kojima wanted to replace him so bad.
Foxgrey Gaming Not even close Kojima wanted a big actor because he just wants to be a film director over a developer. Hayter revealed Kojima wanted to replace him for years since 3. 3 they tried to get Kurt Russel but who didn’t want to do it.
i can maybe, maayyybe understand not using david for the start of the game to avoid spoiling the twist, but i cannot understand why they wouldnt have david voice boss during the flashback/replay reveal in chapter 2. they straight up change what you initially saw, so why not also change ishmael's voice too?
Why even have this twist? It's so worthless and meaningless
Wow I think you're right. That's the reason for not using David bc his voice is so recognizable it would have ruined the plot twist.
@@robertflinch2447 venom snake was already an antagonist in the Metal Gear games, I think only the first or second one, so hideo had to explain his existence somehow. Mgs5 did that pretty well.
Yeah, it’s confirmed that Venom Snake was the one Solid fought in Outer Heaven back in Metal Gear 1...that also means he (well, we) killed our own staff!!
Man, it would’ve been super cool to have green Solid Snake as a bonus ‘boss’. He has all your moves, but is faster, stronger, but not quite as experienced, similar to the fight with Eli, but with an adult this time. And if you do manage to win...time paradox.
@@robertflinch2447the one thing it does do is explain how big boss dies twice
They should've gotten Hayter to record Big Boss' lines having just replayed the crucial cutscenes at the very end when you discover the truth with Hayter's voice. It would've made a hell of an impact when you played it.
David Hayter stalks people at their jobs and harasses them.
@@gamingoneoone3685ow could you made up something so bad about someone you doesn't know? Lying does not change people opinions, and lying about those things says a lot about you
@@gamingoneoone3685
The fuck, dude?
This is how it should be
Hayter voicing the real one and Sutherland the body double
That yell at 8:04 gave me chills
It feels so natural that I forgot for a moment that we were looking some sort of novelty editing.
I’m gonna really miss Metal Gear Solid man 😕
Same bro
Just play it over again
Apparently Sony is trying to make a push for Metal Gear and Silent Hill. I dont see them getting Silent Hill but after mgs5 falling part towards the end and The huge backlash with Survive, i can Konami settling a deal with Sony for MG. Im sure Konami needs money right now
I get it man, but its always gonna be around,I re bought it on steam the other day for 6 quid with DLC and ground zeros, absolute steal. MGS will always live on, mother base however not so much ;)
@@prasad2897 "I'm going to miss my grandpa. It's a shame he died"
"Just watch the videos we made of him"
Big boss the kind of man who can *snipe* a person with a *Shotgun*
LMAO
Shotguns are basically snipers in real life. The right muzzle config and ammo should do the trick.
That final scene, when Naked screams and the Assault Rifle jams and he yells "Damn" as Kaz calls out to him; just that one moment links Ground Zero to Peace Walker so much better than the final product. I could accept the fact that Naked's voice had changed in the 9 years between GZ and TPP a hell of alot better than the sudden change over the course of a few months between PW and GZ.
Just imagine if he did this for free for the fans and dubbed the whole game for use as snake and then had it put in the pc version as a fan mod
I wouldn't say "for free" but I'm sure he's open to commisions. Don't know how much fans will have to pay him for a full game voice over.
If someone organized a gofundme so that he can be atleast compensated for his time when this game initially came out. I'm sure we could've made it happen, there is just no interest at this point. and tbh unpopular opinion, I think Hayter as Solid Snake and Kiefer as BB is great.
I think kiefers serious tone and quietness reflects BB's story better, and I think we need to differentiate them also.
You guys have seen what Konami have done to Fan Projects in the past. As saddening as it is, they’d have a field day with this particular project.
Would you go to your job for free?
he would only need to record like 5 minutes of his voice for the whole game, since Venom Snake barely talks. There's a video with all VS's lines here on YT, and it's less than 5min.
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Python its a rumor about metal gear its buying Xbox did you now about that ?
@@nerto5425 a Metal Gear is buying an Xbox ?
It would have been way too obvious from the start that Venom was a different person if Hayter did those bits.
Could have done it only at the end. "Re-remembering it correctly" as it were.
I had always hoped the Truth replay would have shown Hayter as Big Boss, while also replacing Midre Ure's cover of the Man Who Sold the World with the real thing.
Maybe in the ending.They should use David Hayter's voice
David Hayter is only real voice of Snake for me.
Same here 👍🏽
Yeah!
Totally agree...in a weird way I'm glad Kojima got Keifer to do Venom Snake's voice...that way he let us know that V was a true impostor. It's too bad we'll never see Kojima's plan come to fruition...I hope the rumors are true and that Microsoft bought the rights off Konami.(Actually heard Sony is making an offer to Konami for Metal Gear, Silent Hill and Castlevania!)
I like Hayter's voice in Solid Snake, but Sutherland's voice realy fits to Big Boss
I agree but Keifer really did a good job as Big Boss I liked his performance too
Amazing work on this!
As much as I forced myself to love MGSV, this makes me really sad David didn't get in... MGS Survive was hammering the last nail in the coffin.
Imagine if they got David Hayter to redub Big Boss! It's not as if it couldn't be done.
Yeah he would only have to say like 8 lines lol
If [they] can redub Peter Dinklage out of Destiny for the other guy then redubbing these lines should be along the same idea. But code is finicky.
The modding scene has been doing some amazing stuff. There's already one that replaces in-game voice with Hayter. He'd never do a full replacement, but we're probably only a few years from someone getting a hold of a really good voice cloner and finding a way to replace the audio.
David Hayter doesn't sound good as Big Boss. He sounds amazing as young Solid and young Naked, but Sutherland sounds much better as big boss.
David Hayter was approached about doing a redub by fans. He refused, saying that he couldn't think of anything more humiliating.
Man, having David’s voice in the scene really hits me. There wasn’t enough nostalgic familiarity in mgsv and this just brings it all back
The only thing is, snake has been beaten up so much in his franchise that I'd recognize the twist by David's grunts in a manner of seconds.
Kiefer's voice fits perfectly the Big boss character traits
- Natural authority
- Straight to the point
- charisma and great speaker
- intimidating when he needs to
Only malus is that we don't hear him talk that much, but everytime BB/Venom spoke, he nailed it
And the same goes for David Hayter as Solid Snake
Hearing David hayter as BB in Peace walker was quite painful and out of character
I disagree since they established his voice in mgs3 all David would've had to do is subdue his performance and talk less that's it
Having David voice the real big boss would have been amazing. I could see using Kiefer to venom and the real big boss in the beginning to throw people off. But in the "Truth Revealed" version of the mission they shoulda had David Hayter voice him. Would have made the ending 10x better.
Literally made the game perfect for me. Makes SENSE now too.Great job guys. You’re still pretty good.
CRAZY what a voice can do. Literally makes everything better! LONG LIVE DAVID HAYTER!!!!!
I can’t believe I met David back in 2018, one of the reasons why 2018 was my favourite year. His favourite game in the series is and not surprisingly 3.
Was the DD logo on the OKB0 container mystery ever solved?
czcams.com/video/IST4LZ8uwqk/video.html this is a theory that might explain it
Nope
Where?
What
Reused assets... I don't see why they wouldn't have just had some varying textures. There's just nothing concrete there or I'd say that it was a good lead
This was so well made it give me the FEELS, you're pretty good 👌
i enjoy MGS V but, it ain't the same thing without the real guy.
it feels like a Phantom pain uh?
honestly I don't care how good Phantom Pain was gameplay-wise, it doesn't feel like a Metal Gear Solid game.. I still love it though, but it feels more at home with spinter cell and ghost recon.
there's no memorable moments like in MGS1 or 2, not as much memes, not as much recognition
David hayder voiced solid Snake not big boss except for mgs3
Hayter..Forever the only Big Boss
Minor Agreed!
There's only room for one Boss and one Snake
Hayter will always be snake, keiffer did a decent job and he should maybe be given the job for any future venom snake roles(unlikely venom will appear in any others) but Hayter should always be big boss and solid snake, it was a mistake by kojima to take him out of mgsv
Keiffer Sutherland isn’t the voice of the boss, even in mgsv ground zeros, keiffer Sutherland is the voice of Ahab.
That's mad disrespect to the Japanese voice actor and Big Boss' mo-cap performance artists...and the guy that played him in the epilogue of MGS4...
Hayter is THE Solid Snake but he only a part of Big Boss' legacy.
That was pretty cool i must admit. Would be nice if David Hayter did the voiceover himself. But there wasn’t much lines either if i recall correctly
Venom is kinda mute the whole game, except for the noises when hes being shot or calling DD and so
I kid you not, there is at least 6 minutes of dialogue for Snake
So much of Sutherland's dialouge went unused
@@ryanbarrie9143 why? If the actor recorded it, then why did the production staff cut it? Seems a waste of money and talent.
From the top, Kojima has always been very auteur about his games.
Normally, it works fairly well, other times...not so much.
Originally, the intent was for Venom to be his own character with a strong character arc.
I don’t know if this was before or after Konami decided to force ship it (timeline’s a bit vague and there’s a lot of info locked behind NDAs), but Kojima changed his mind halfway through and decided to make Venom a silent protagonist to act as a vehicle for the protagonist. Due to the...half-finished nature of the game and voice acting laws, you can see the seams where the story appears it might develop Venom, and where he’s a mute insert for the player.
Speaking for myself, I think Venom would’ve played off excellently with Skullface if he were allowed to talk. Some of the removed voices have Venom comforting Paz, and Sutherland delivers a really strong performance.
There’s a rumor that Chico might’ve been meant as a boss/buddy similar to Quiet. In his case, he would’ve been changed to resemble an Oni, to draw allusions with Venom resembling a western demon.
I know that my comment may or may not bother many.
But for the first time, I feel Phantom Pain, like a true MGS, knowing that David Hayter is still the voice of the legendary Big Boss.
As in you don’t like David Hayter?
So good that I forgot David Hayter was surrogate voice actor on this video.
David Hayter , was the only missing part of this title! For me, it was almost perfect like any other MG game! Playing with Sutherland's was not the same feeling! Hope to see the real SNAKE, again!
Half of the game is missing
Let's just say.... After the nuclear radiation by The Boss and getting zapped multiple times after being captured, his vocal chords get fried and became Sutherland's voice as of we know now.
"There can be only one Snake... and ONE Big Boss!" Liquid Ocelot you couldn't be more correct!
I always loved the idea of Big Boss and Solid Snake have two different voice actors. It makes them their own separate characters.
Some people might say: But they are clones!
So was George and Eli but they sounded nothing like David lol.
Regardless, Hayter was the voice of young Big Boss for three games. Suddenly replacing him makes no sense and serves as a giant middle finger.
@@rinraidenwell originally kojima didn’t want hayter to voice big boss in 3 but due to budget and time, accepted it. Hence making him audition for the role again
It could have been so great! Nice job Bros. Also I really liked the banner vanishing as the helicopters door was closing.
I have a feeling that if Kojima was able to continue MGS V, he would've made an appearance for Solid Snake and have David voice 'em. Most likely in the lost chapter 3 .. to make a connection between MGS V and MG (MSX) game ... this is just an assumption lol
BoSaif kojima didn't like Hayter, tried to find someone to replace hin many times.
BEST ENDING would've been, after Big Boss looks up at the camera on the motorcycle, he says, in hayters voice, "Kept you waiting huh?" Then it cuts to black as an epic cliff hanger sorta thing surprising everyone with hayters voice at the end
I smiled as soon as I heard those grunts and growls.
Holy hell! Did you get David Hayter to do this? Or did you use his voice lines to overlay Kiefer Sutherland's? Either way, Damn good job!
Voice dialogue cut out from many games, especially Peace Walker.
Many Thanks! 😄 We used dialog & other sounds mostly from David's performances in MGS3, MGS4 & Portable Ops.
- Python & Selkan
@@PythonSelkan is it possible to mod Hayter lines into mgs v?
PythonSelkanHD probably but there would be some words that hayter hasn’t said in any previous mgs games and therefor you may have to get him to say them in order for it to work
I mean... He's on Cameo (www.cameo.com/guyversnake) so you could actually pay him say some lines
When the game came out I was like oh yeah makes sense for them tonuse a new guy since how can it be possible or a stretch to say the least for his replacement to sound exactly like him! Then i realised the real big boss was also voiced by Keifer which is still awesome but still... I was disappointed i thought as perfect as hideo tries to be that everything would be on point. That there was a definite downer.
Kojima was trying to get rid of Hayter since MGS1, he didn't like him... for whatever reason. Hayter *always* had to reaudition for the role, and then had to pay for the lunch that he was taken to when he was told he wouldn't be used in MGS5. Then he tried to sell us on he "wanted this Snake to have a different feel" meanwhile the Japanse voice actor remained the same.
Kojima got what he had coming to him over at Konami, and I don't feel the least bit sorry for how poorly he was treated. Karma's a bitch.
the hell? Kojima had vision to make the best version of each of the metal gear game. Hes a creative director who Im sure had the best interest of every game hes making. If he didnt want Hayter its because he didnt feel like he was fitting. There wont be MGS without Kojima, and there probably wont be any now that hes no longer with Konami.
Seriously I hope the Hayter fans dont become as toxic as Star Wars fans who starts bullying cast and crews...
Me personally I liked Kiefer as Big Boss and felt it was fitting in MGS 5. The game was vastly different in tone and directiom from past games. Its open world (a larger Peace Walker), it used motion capture (so they needed actors, not just voice actor), a new music direction (its an open world "adventure" game with stealth in it, and had an "indiana jones/uncharted" feel to it in some moments). Even the cutscenes had shaky cam effect like a hollywood movie. Considering the overall feel, and art direction of the game, I feel Hayter's voice isnt fitting at all.
@@giantqtipz6577 What an apologist mindset. Kojima got what he deserved at Konami. You don't feed fans bullshit about how you wanted this Snake to be different, then use the same actor for the Japanese version that has been doing the role since the first one. That's not making him different, that's making him the exact same and using an excuse to stroke your own ego.
You also don't have your publisher take a man out to lunch to tell him he isn't going to be used, and then make that man pay for the meal.
Kojima has, since MGS, had delusions of grandeur, thinking he was some Hollywood director, and when he got the chance to replace a loved actor with someone from Hollywood, he jumped at the chance while keeping his native language actor the same.
How you feel about it isn't relevant, what is is how he has consistently treated Hayter over the course of the franchise. Had he (Kojima) treated the man (Hayter) with respect, this wouldn't have even been a topic of conversation, if Hayter was used for 5 or not. However, you treat a guy like he has and it earns you no favor when you act like a cuck.
David said it himself. Kiefer is a good actor and a good man. But David Hayter, though. There can only be one Snake, and one Big Boss!
dramatically jumps into Metal Gear Ray
What makes me wish this happened from the start is that when Kiefer took over, suddenly everyone and their mother came out of the woodwork saying "I never liked David" (including Kojima, I guess). If David had just been there, that wouldn't have even come up in the first place. I'm also sad we're seeing this happen again, but with Bayonetta (albeit more vindictive).
Thanks Phyton for give us the Snake's REAL voice. David Hayter is spectacular
honestly, Sutherlands voice fits Venom and a man who thought in so many wars much better. I dont dislike Hayter but his voice is just not as deep and worn.
in my opinion someone like Sutherlands should have voiced big boss from the start in the series
@@Marianrest it makes sense for big boss to have the same voice as solid when he was younger, after all solid is a clone of big boss.
Still it also makes sense that his voice changes as he grows old.sutherlands doesn't exactly feat the older version of hayter but it does the job and somewhat feat venom perfectly and gives some forshadowing to the twist
The problem isn't the voice change itself but rather how sudden it feels(ground zeros happens right after peace Walker so it sounds really weird to ear snake in a different voice). I would rather preferred Hayter (the man has already proven that he can make snake sound like snake but old in tired like mgs4) but I kinda understand why the change was made.
@@diogomartins4408 I see your point and I agree something shouldve been done to make the transition smoother for new and old players
@@diogomartins4408 the change was only made because hideo didn't like David as snake for some stupid reason. He tried to get a different voice actor with every installment, but ended up "stuck" with David. Kiefer Sutherland agreed to the role of snake and i legitimately hold a petty grudge against him because of it lmao.
I seen Konami hideo kojima wanted a guy to sound real old and so they didn't want David hayter because come on he sounds like freaking Rambo
_The David Hayter to..._
_...Surpass Kiefer Gear!_
snake is the one who told me once there is no glory on the battlefield.
Watching your other analyses - this was my conclusion. The reason we never heard David Hayter voice anyone in MGSV is because big boss was never in the game
He is in the beginning and the end right? Or is there a reason why Big Boss's voice would sound like venoms to? I don't get that part... why didn't they cast him for only the last episode?
I kind of prefer kiefer's voice for big boss, i liked it that hayter voiced him in mgs3 but as he's older in mgsv, i like kiefer voicing him.
I personally accept Sutherland voicing Big Boss. He got older and therefor could sound a bit older and more distinct from Solid Snake. I mean Big Boss doesn't look like Snake at the end of Guns of the Patriots, so, clone or not, there were parts of Snake's genetic code that let him grow as his own man as opposed to being a complete carbon copy of Big Boss.
I kinda like the fact that they changed the voice actors. It gives much more credibility to the idea that Snake didn’t knew that Big Boss was his father until he reveals this to Snake on the second game. Also, if you want to blame someone for Hayter being replaced by Sutherland, blame Kojima. He never liked Hayter’s work.
Missing David voice is part of the Phantom Pain Kojima wanting us to feel
Ah that was an inch desperately needing scratched.
How do you get him to do these voiceovers? It is so cool.
Many Thanks! 😄 We used dialog & other sounds mostly from David's performances in MGS3, MGS4 & Portable Ops.
- Python & Selkan
I think a way Kojima could have used Hayter's voice was making all characters interacting with Venom during the scape sound with Hayter's voice so we could think Venom was allucinating
My headconon is that David Hayter is all the young snakes (Naked and Solid) while Keifer Sutherland is the older snakes (GZ Big Boss, and Venom snake.) And the reason he still plays MGS4 Old Snake is because the accelerated aging effected his voice slower.
Never cease to amaze! Thanks guys!!!
There's only room for one Snake, and one Big Boss!
What do you mean I'm solid Snake and I'm a weapon that surpasses metal gear
I'm the only
Should have been like this:
No Sutherland in GZ, David Hayter voices Big Boss in it.
After GZ, Hayter and Kojima tell everyone that he's being replaced by Kiefer Sutherland in TPP.
Kiefer Sutherland voices both Ishmael and Snake until the "The Man Who Sold The World" mission.
Enter David Hayter. During that mission, "Ishmael" is voiced by David Hayter, adding even more of an impact to the twist.
This was a hell of an edit.
And yes it would have made things super awesome.
We need mod for Big Boss voice-over only with David Hayter's voice
They have one that replaces his in game voice. So calling DD and interrogating people. But it sounds a bit funny. They pulled from different games and the quality is understandably lacking
Better start forking out that Cameo money lol
Everyone else: Replace Kiefer Sutherland with David Hayter.
Me: Replace Troy Baker with Josh Keaton.
Yeah, I hate that bitch Troy Baker. He is in every fucking new game.
All these techy advancement in cloning and implants and Snake still chooses to be a one eyed pirate
I forgot about the GZ ending...goosebumps the whole way Big Boss at its finest
I remember your theories about mgs 5. I didn’t agree with most of them but I sure respected them. And they were interesting to watch. I’ll give you all the props about venom snake being a body double though. You got it right. Cheers m8. Awesome job on the video and I hope you continue your stuff. Also GG on getting love from David hayter!!!!
I don't know why, but I dont have much to say about the phantom pain segment of this but the ground zeros segment is just perfect.. It just feels and sounds right.. Ground zeros always felt less like phantom pain and more like peace walker to me.
That part of ground zeros was always heartbreaking for me.. knowing that's my lovingly built mother base from peace walker being destroyed..
I think I'm gona go do another playthrough of the series, it's been too long 🦊
That scream from Portable Ops was damn well implemented!
You're pretty good!
I was totally expecting him to say "That takes care of the cremation after he burned quiet."
@David Hayter You've done your fans proud. Slowly restoring hope that you'll be able to return to the role. Welcome back, Boss!
I must say, I really liked the voice of Kiefer Sutherland as big boss... After all, he's not solid snake.
Can't wait to see this video! Your MGS V videos are the best on CZcams!!
I remember how when MGS V came out, they didn’t like how Sutherland was voicing Snake but eventually they accepted it as they understood that we didn’t play Big Boss
If we take into account that MGSV as a whole is supposed to be viewed through Venom's POV, we could assume that BB's voice is still Hayter's and what we heard throughout the game was just what Venom heard, through all the brain damage brainwashing. Even Ground Zeroes was never the real deal, but part of the brainwashing simulation which Venom was submitted to. We have a couple of hints, like when Miller acts as though he wasn't aware of Paz's true nature and the Pseudo Historical recreation subtitle before every side op
To be honest, I love both performances. I think it would be interesting to have a DLC for the game that allows you to switch between the voices as you like. Just a thought.
They really should've had big boss voiced by david, that would've been a cool way to clarify the twist for the fans
honestly if the actual big boss was voiced by david that would have been so cool. and it's not like the twist wasn't already ruined since kiefer already voices both rn
4:50. Best moment in the entire series..
I'm glad to see someone did the thing I've always though about.
Miller: they played us like a damn fiddle
David Hayter: me too
If the metal gear solid franchise gets famous again maybe one day Kiefer Sutherland like a damn fiddle Miller has done it he played me like a damn fiddle and he played me good so good
What would have been cool, is the whole game, instead of hearing Kiether Sutherland as Big Boss/Venom, we hear him as David Hayter, and once we beat mission 46, Venom's voice changes to Kither Sultherland
i literally tweeted at hayter years ago because i dreamed of this. now make it a mod for the pc version atleast and ee can finally be in peace!!
Still a damn shame Kojima replaced him with Keifer.
This is the perfect compromise. David Hayter remains Big Boss/Solid Snake and Keifer still gets to be Venom Snake.
Keifers delivery always enhanced the emotional intensity of the scenes
The one and only snake in my books.
Come to think of it. Kojima and mgs ain't doomed yet. He's got the ace all along. The real Big Boss has no stand-alone missions yet of his own after operation intrude n313.
I liked the twist that u didn't play as the real big boss
Someone needs to mod Ground Zeroes and MGSV and insert David Hayter's voice in for the REAL Big Boss, then play the games to CZcams. AI is capable of doing it, with only a few seconds of listening to his voice from previous games... PLEASE, SOMEONE MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!
That's how god intended.
I like Kiefer Sutherland more David hayter was solid Snake not big boss it doesn't match why did David hayter voice Big boss though
Even though I prefer Sutherland as Big Boss, it is so good hearing Hayter again. Like getting a glimpse into another timeline.
I think every blind man and his dog knows Hayter should have NEVER been replaced.
Venom: "What... what happened to the woman?"
Ishmael: "Huh, is that a woman?"