Dana White calls Roy Nelson "the ultimate underachiever," talks fighter salaries
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White previews the upcoming season of The Ultimate Fighter while also answering questions about fighter salaries, the cancellation of UFC 151, his relationship with light heavyweight champion, Jon Jones and addresses concerns that fight cards are getting watered down. - Sport
Secretly Dana wants that mullet Nelson has, don't lie Dana...
^^ lol, it's funny coz it's tru!
Noboby wants that trailer trash cut
@@nickk2582 dana does
Roy Nelson would KO Dana in 10 seconds.
I give roy 2.3 seconds, max
Roy Nelson is a born loser.
not is he threw a cheeseburger at him first
Obviously yea
"were thinking about learning mma...cuz thats where the money is" said no one the fuck EVER
+Claire Lavezzi LMFAO
+Claire Lavezzi HAHAHAHAHA
SCARFACE ALDO - FJ24 ***** Dana I WILL BUY 100 Front row seats to see that, fuck head!!
But do you remember your weight when you were givin the presidency of the company from your boyfriends!! He never took ROIDS UNLIKE SOMEONE ELSE!!!
The UFC fighters should get a Union.
wish granted
Celtic Warrior uh no
Werewolf O. London, Esq. lol in 2020 really?
"It's not about the money..." Really? So you'd take a pay cut? Douuuuuubt it
I like Roy Nelson because of his "shape" He's one of us!
But he's not. He's suppose to be a pro athlete
Dana: "Here's the way that it really works... you see, most of the money comes to me. Period. End of discussion."
that's honesty. No need to sugarcoat things & lie.
I've heard that these fighters camps leading up to the fights can run them up into the 35,000-50,000 dollars. So if you're thinking 50,000 is nice money for one fight just think about that. It's super sad how much work these fighters put in and how little they get in return
"We don't disclose PPV numbers, it's no need to" Enter Conor McGregor😂
I've wondered the same thing about Roy. I honestly think he fights to eat, as he has said about his previous grappling tournaments. It's about the money.. not testing his skill or truly loving the sport.
Dana doesn't realise that the fat gut and mullet were used to make him look more like an average beer drinking guy, people like that...it's marketable
I feel like MMA fighter should get paid more than boxers
Don't have a name for you Sorry the average mma fighter in ufc gets more than the average boxer. It’s only the huuuge boxing matches there is a big payday. If you pick someone none ranked from the ufc and someone none ranked in boxing the ufc fighter gets more. Also in boxing they are building your record they make you box cab drivers and when you are 14 and 0 and get a legitmate contender and lose you are out of boxing forever, something that would never happen in mma. Also they make a lot on sponsors and when they have a name. Gsp made something around 35 million alone on sponsors. Also you are a free agent in boxing thats why they can hold multiple titles in multiple organizations. Mma fighters on a pro level are signed to one promotion only. Imagine if you are a freelancer if you build a name multiple companies will contact you and give you multiple numbers to do some work compared to a guy who has a permanent job with a permanent income. You can’t really compare boxing with mma when it comes to the business.
@@Simpletalk1337 I 100 agree with what you said but at the end of the day UFC making a ton of money why not to pay the fighters right?
Dana is quite skilled at bending the narrative to paint him in a positive light.
I'm the Roy Nelson at my job. The thing is if I took my work seriously I would fucking obsess about it and blow it. I need the I don't give a fuck attitude, otherwise I get anxiety.
I agree with you, fellow Downs.
sameeee
Unfortunately as long as the fighters are willing to fight for "low" pay, guys like Dana White will keep taking advantage of them. White is being disingenuous by implying that the reason UFC does not reveal their fighters' pay is because they care about the fighters. He does not want to risk the bad publicity and have the fighters really scrutinize the deal they're getting.
Very well said! Nailed it!
I never understood why Nelson doesn't just go on a diet, lose some weight and kick everyone's ass due to his new found speed and agility. Maybe he could even drop down to 205. But I guess if this is how he chooses to do it... Can't tell him how to live his life.
hes actually said he is thinking about moving down to 205, he said hes not sure he can do it or if he'll try but hes considering it
Cuz he likes food?
Yeah, because losing weight like that is so easy.... It's not like just dropping water weight.
He'll do terrible at light heavy. Dropping down in weight isn't a guarantee win. He's too slow and crude for light heavy.
Robin MX
Easy as fuck. Literally.
The way dana answered that question was genius honestly 🤣
Dana has a way with words. Thats one of the reasons he gets to be CEO. If he didnt have that charisma I doubt he would ever have made it so big.
@@GuyFromTheSouth he got the ceo position cause he bought the company you dumb bootlicker.
dana white is worth like 300 mill thats where all the money goes lol
Innovater6 prob more than that now since they sold it. That was prob what it was before the sale and he's lying.
300 mill is nothing dude when we are talking about this.
Look how nervous he becomes when the salaries subject come
It hasn't changed either. 5 years later and he still is under paying most of these fighters.
@@bevzilla8863 true
@@bevzilla8863 they don’t have to sign up do they?
Dana dont get nervous
Miguel Cotto, fan favorite but not even a top 3 name in boxing right now estimated net worth $15 million
Chuck Liddell all time HOF fighter and poster boy of UFC net worth $14 million
Anderson Silva all time P4P king net worth $12 million
Just saying
st V he was at one point
Yep ... just like christiano ronaldo ... was too played athlet
In the world now hes number 2 and Mayweather number 1 but imagine soccer player making well over 100 million a year plus endorsements lol crazy rite
Its not that ufc fighters dont make enough its that another athletes make too damn much.
+ThisYoungLibertine So you would fight 4 times a year for 48K???
+ThisYoungLibertine
Bullshit. HALF of a UFC fighter's check goes to his trainers, agent, and gym. And outside of the octagon, the fighter is responsible for all of his medical expenses. Can you imagine how expensive a UFC fighter's medical and dental insurance is?
profd65 I do believe that the UFC does pay medical bills, but not sure.
But you hit the nail on the head, when they got one sponsor then the fighters lose control.
Dana has all the control, and that's how he likes it.
João Filipe da Costa EXACTLY my point all along!! How is it the PRES of the company can go from DEAD BROKE to 350 million dollars? *****
Pay the bottom fighters a living wage you cheap fuck.
You are 100% correct.
rob roy
If the fighter is injured inside the octagon, the UFC picks up the tab. But outside of the octagon, the fighter is on his own.
Holy shit did i just hear him say " it isn't about the money! ?!?😂
Dana you aint much to look at either, but you sure do spin like a politician, bullshit bullshit when your lips move, oh we cant pay them too much because they will go broke like Tyson ? wtf
That's not what he said at all.
Jaime Van Hassel you joking right, Dana is running the show, he could be out of shape as fuck, he don't need to look like a fighter to get sponsors. He is a snake, no question about it, you dont get to net worth of 300mil with being honest guy.
wow dana really cares about his Fighters by imagining a distant relative coming to an MMA guy's house looking for a loan the mma fighter probably wouldn't know how to deal with that situation what a great guy Dana is
"Its not about the money" 1billion dollars later
Forked tongue snake!!
dude im pretty sure mma fighters are like gladiators of the 21 century
I'm fine with fighters making less for the fight purse if they can have there own sponsors like it used to be, but now they have the Reebok deal fighters should get a bigger piece of the pie
Lmao at him claiming boxers want to get into mms because "that's where the money is at"
Fuck, everyone needs to realize that UFC IS A NEW COMPANY, they have only been around for 20 years now, when they started they were only paying their fighters few hundred to a thousand, now they are paying their fighters anywhere from 10k - 1mil+ (depending on their status). Just wait another 20 years and UFC will be paying their fighters a hell of a lot more. You seriously can't compare salaries of UFC Fighters to Boxers...
MMA(UFC) = 20 Years
Boxing = Over 100 Years
Ofc top ranked boxers would get payed more... but soon they wont get payed much because it's a dying sport, so really.. UFC Fighters aren't getting fucked over.
20 years is a new company?
Tank Hulkington When im comparing salaries between boxers and ufc fighters, yes. 20 years is new, the past 4-5 years is when UFC really started to break out, now its huge, another 20 years it will be even bigger.
Not to mention, boxing is an international sport. Whereas the UFC is just now stepping into international bouts (mainly in South America).
EDIT: And, don't forget that most UFC fighters can fight twice to three times a year, whereas boxers will only fight once a year - or even once every two years.
its 2021 and people STILL rag on the UFC for their paying of fighters...here it is: the UFC has HUNDREDS of signed fighters at one time, yes most get paid very little until they make their way up the ranks and hopefully into a PPV spot where they can get % points and thats the Jones/McGregor/Rousey money. Oh and most boxers get paid shit too. Its just the top guys that ppl like to compare those figures to.
"Not about the money" lets Anderson fight diaz knowing both failed drug tests.......
I believe Dana but what he doesn't say is main and co-main get a percentage of PPV buys. and to get the "incentives and bonuses" he make those fighters jump through hoops to get it.
Roy is not the issue here the issue is that none of the guys are payed well lol i will say i read an article where some guys WHO dana likes will get a bonus other than the set amount lol Chuck said he got a 225 thousand payout with a 1 mill bonus when he knocked out tito lol I also saw where certain guys an its public info yet some guys again that dana likes are worth millions an did really well. Now look up nick diaz who is an amazing fighter an never backed out of a fight an had a fight every 3 months since he was 17 an he is worth 800 grand now does that seem right>?
If Roy Nelson had literally any conditioning he'd easily be one of the best p4p fighters in the world. You get that fool on the ground and he's gassed in 90 seconds.
He has conditioning. What you mean is if he had a aesthetically pleasing physique it would some how make him a better fighter. And he has a jujitsu black belt.
Roy's cardio isnt that bad.... However... Everything else old boy said was true. Roy says the dumbest shit, is literally uncoachable and is totally independent but he is the most powerful fight in MMA history and has the best chin ever. If he would have pulled a Jared cannonier he would have been the greatest middleweight of all time unfortunately he's the greatest underachiever in the history of the UFC
i would imagine guys headline main event guys are getting points on the ppv buys or a piece of the gate at the door
Big country is a more well rounded tank abbot
If the fighter's aren't telling what they are making then they are doing well. I agree with Dana on Roy Nelson. Roy, man why don't you just give the diet and training regime that most other fighters have a try? Just try it for about a year. That's about how long it would take to get yourself in good shape. Plus you would be much healthier. there's no down side to getting serious. Obviously you are serious when you get in the ring because you are one hell of a fighter. Just do it !!! Get rid of that gut dude!!
qynsar the thing with roy is a lot of his knock out power comes from the fact the his kinetic chain is concentrated in his stomach. it's like a free weight adding a shit ton of energy to his right hand. combine that with good foot work and you have one of the best rights in the world.
You missed the point entirely. He's saying Roy Nelson doesn't look like an athlete, why would these sponsors want a guy that looks like that advertising their stuff?
the guy is fucking amazing
love watching his fights
when i see him in octagon i know its gona be fucking interesting
one of the rair fighters that garantises interesting fight
regardllesss who is gona win the fight is gona be gooooddd
Dana White : the ufc has only the best fighters
Media & fans: how come you pay your fighters shit
Dana White: not all these fighters are the best.
I am so glad that Dana is just the talking face of the company while the Fertitto brothers are handling the real business because Dana has no clue about who's marketable! The UFC attracts a lot of NASCAR fans and Roy looks a lot like that particular fanbase, and that make him a likeable fighter and someone they can Identify with. Roy's look is just fine!
Ya know, I particularly tend to not give overweight people much slack.... but someone as decent as Roy Nelson would be worthy of sponsoring my product if I was a businessman.
Well you see this is how it works.......fails to explain
So what if he has a mullet and a belly?? If he had no cardio and made appearances on Cops every week then there is an issue. His belly makes him unique and reminds me of some berserker viking or scary gladiator guy.
Yoislandy Izquierdo, a fighter on that card, was paid 6000$
I think if your trying to make Roy more professional and a harder worker why is Dana using petty insults to put him down , Roy Nelson is good for the UFC he shows that all shapes and sizes have the ability to kick ass man ! Crazy
Dana "I lie, therefore I am" White
LMAOOOO dead!!
I think Roy Nelson Vs Dana White would make bank. I still think that you should a fight.
they'd make bank.... blood bank!!! cause Roy would murder Dana White & i dont think the referee would intervene lol.
if its not about the money what is it about ?
Some UFC fighters probably are underpaid, but I agree with Dana in keeping their actual salaries secret.
I think Dana should fight Ramsey Bolton...for The Watch!
Why does it matter that Dana has a opinion he should stick to match making and not trashing his fighters
I def think the fighters should be paid more...union is the best bet I think. But, Dana does have a point. I think it's better that salaries aren't fully disclosed. It makes everything about the money. So and so isn't worth that or whatever.....and the comment about the vultures coming out of the woodwork couldn't be truer. There's a middle-ground somewhere.
let us see Roy vs dana. I would rather see that than any fight they have planned.
Wow I have heard some lie from Dana White before but this interview is top 5 there is no Olympic boxer who would ever leave boxing to try MMA and the lie that were money at
Since then vikings have become a huge media thing and Roy Nelson would get all the attention today. He just happened to be a little bit before his time.
You may like or dislike Dana White, I'm not that big of a fan, but he is right here. If Roy got into shape and buffed up... forget about it, with his talent, he'd be unstoppable for years. Hall of fame material, easy.
nobody needs to be concerned with fighter pay but fighters lol if they had a problem with pay don't work for the guy and Dana White doesn't disclose fighter pay cause it's not anyone's business what fighters get paid
LMAO how fucking furious does dana look at 2:13
I feel like Nelson should be advertising flannel shirts and woolen hats.
Dana White is doing a pretty damn good job, when it comes to setting up the deals and making MMA more popular and accessable to anyone. He gives his honest opinion and numbers on everything he can think of. He is also the one who insists to have a huge UFC roster, even though they don't need that many fighters, but he keeps giving them a chance in order to find new talent.
Boxing is so much above MMA, when it comes to the money it's not even funny anymore. Stop being unedjucated, son.
not about the money........... XD really wish that was true its hard being an mma fan these days!!
Really Dana, As a fighter Roy is a huge overachiever. Who would look at that guy and say to themselves, he's going to KO noguiera, Chiek Kongo etc...
He is a good striker, everyone knows he is looking for that right overhand but he can consistently land the shot
Dang this video is old
Dana take the fighter pay question pretty well lol. Now a days he wouldn't answer with a smile
Well if he can market dc he would be able to market roy too, i know dc has a more energy personality to say the least but still. A big balde man who has a big belly come on. Only outlook difference is that dc is bald and roy has a mallet and beard. But dc looks similar to dana maybe thats why he favour him more
It's definitely about the money. But I see a little of his point. Or I should say his justification. If they disclosed fighters pay, the only thing people will talk about is money. Then fighters will compete with each other - for pay, and then some fighters will not fight unless they get X or Y. And then the UFC will have competitors who will offer more - this and that, and we have MMA becoming boxing. Probably a little exaggerated but I see how he uses that as justification.
"it's not about the money" YEEAAHH Right Dana.
He always changes the subject when salaries is being discussed and talking about Germany nd and i dnt know what. Stop man everyone single one knows that u r ripping ur fighters
i never understood why americans are so sensitive about disclosing their salaries.
i once asked a girl in NY how much does she make - and she almost slapped me . wtf ppl should share this so other ppl will know if the job is worth it .imho
+TheKoderius That is very rude. No-one likes other people to know what they're making to support their family and themselves. Someone could be making pennies and you would be like "That's sad....Maybe we should help them?" Then clearly that relationship would be terrible. Of course you could get the person that's making a easy million and then you would be like "That's not fair and way too much money" then that relationship would be fucked because you would be sad that your former friend is making way more money than you. Also it's just personal. If you want to know how much a job pays then look online or ask the employer.....Don't ask random people how much money they make....
People hide their salaries so it's easier for the employer to discriminate based on personal preference.
Actually Roy Nelson could land Oscar Meyers, Burger King, In & Out Burger, Fat Burger... he could get all kinds of sponsors like that lol.
dana white has some serious beef with nelson man, every interview every time nelson comes up, he talks about him like he fucking hates the guy.
you guys really want to know why big name fighters earn little in UFC payouts compared to boxing?
"they get exposure through us! Why would we pay them the money we earn?! I'm not following - listen to this tangent..."
Dana White admits it all the time. he's always reminding the viewers and fighters that the UFC is bigger than any of the fighters. he also set up Rhonda Rousey with a fighter he knew would beat her, since she was already contemplating taking time off and possibly retiring with the belt. Just ask GSP, he eont let that happen.
Ok so the UFC fighters on average make less than Boxers but they are still making some crazy amounts of money and i doubt you'll find one that's gonna complain too seriously about it, they are living their dream and getting paid a lot of money to do it, the media and fans are the only ones that care about comparing it to boxing
Great comments Dana.. but thats the perfect thing about the UFC, I think 90% of the fighters would fight for free if their training and living bills were paid for. Money cant buy you immortality, the UFC can..
:) my point is the ufc is like the premiership now, and I would play in that on a Sunday for free! and when I said living bills I was talking about all u can eat buffets and free entry to titty bars)..
I totally agree. Once you start raising wages, then it's hard to scale back down. Before the UFC got popular, guys were basically fighting for free, or for peanuts anyway.
But son, boxing is not MMA. Boxing is much more popular and when something is much more popular, there is much more money involved. Also, when you talk about boxing and the big money you probably have the biggest names in mind and the same applies for MMA. Big names in MMA do earn a lot of money. As much as boxers? Probably not but they're earning pretty damn good for people who don't have to be edjucated, but just go in and throw kicks and punches.
"It's not about the money." How much was your cut from the sale of the UFC, Dana? I know, I know...maybe someday UNICEF will get into the fight game but until then you're the guys to see.
Danas usually smart with this kind of shit but i cant disagree more with him about roy as much as i can understand where hes coming from, whats roy supposed to do? Shave his heard and lose his gut??? Those are huge parts of his image, literally and metaphorically
The numbers are consistent in the ufc because every fighter gets paid like shit
Roy Nelson would be a great face for Harley Davidson. He has a biker look to him
1:45
DANA SHOOK
Big Country is awesome
Dana just casually shits all over Roy Nelson. I agree in a sense that he is a underachiever he could be so much better if he lost that belly however it is absolutely absurd to say noone would be interested in sponsoring him.
If I'm correct .... key word " if "
.. I had read somewhere that the mma fights also generate quite a significant amount of money .... in some cases more than boxing .... so plz Dana... dont act like your doing these fighters a favor .... I love when ppl like him act like they're doing someone a favor bu paying them ..... seriously !!??!!!!?!!! Every fight can be life changing... physically and or mentally! .... now I know that the fighters are aware of this ....... but come on !
not one of my arguments were ad hominem. I never once attacked you personally. I simply said your math and english were wrong. Ad hominem would be something like "you're fat" or "it's because you're black" or something to that nature. if i came off as "i'm right you're wrong deal with it" then i apologize as that was not my intent. i could have definitely been more diplomatic about it, but it's hard to want to be diplomatic with someone who is already attacking someone else (in this case dana)
LOl it aint about him and his pot belly its the skill that wins him fights its the belly sticks out more then his fight carrer
Why is it that so many fighters hate dana? It gets to the point that, you ever think YOUR the problem, instead of everyone else?
B9King937 Most people hate their bosses. You build a business by pleasing your customers, not always your workers. Most workers are a dime a dozen. Some workers are very valuable and those are the only ones you have to compromise for.
+B9King937 Funny thing is fighters know how much they'd make if they got to the UFC. No one is forcing them to go in there.
sebastianzx6r What if every job got together and said "hey, let's all go down to minimum wage. that way, they'll be forced to work for us" is that right? Yeah, you can say "ill just go to an easier job" but those would be taken before you know it. So they need employment, they'll take anything.
Roy Nelson should be on cans of 16oz Mickeys. Belly and all. That would suit me just fine.
Mickeys should heavily consider sponcering Roy Nelson.
how fucking scary would a 'ripped' big country be
Big country rules..
Dana has never been in the cage and yet he has more money then any of the UFC fighters ever have. Even fighters that made the brand.
Dana didn’t even risk his own money. I really need richer friends..,
man this guy is great at interviewing
They robbing these fighters. "It's not about the money?" WTF? Who fights for free?
When roy nelson knocks everyone out and becomes champion, sponsers roll in, and Dana will say that he always liked Roy.
Say what you want about Roy Nelson, but he is a fan favourite and fans pay the bills right?
He throws peanut's out in the middle of that cage and has them wrestle for them
Fact is they sign a contract and if you don't like what's in it don't sign it and then bitch and moan about it.
The ufc is VERY particular on getting them to understand EXACTLY what they're signing too. They give them NO AMMO, so if a fighter then comes out and starts bitching its completely their own fault. Period. People need to learn a few basic business subjects so they don't demonize people undeservingly. If it weren't for Dana white NO ONE would be getting paid and we wouldn't even HAVE the ufc.
would be awesome!! but I don't think Dana would let two people THAT out of shape in the octagon together, would make it a laughing stock to any non MMA fan who happened to tune in that night....
Im a huge roy nelson fan, I think dana didnt ljke roy from day one because of his physique but unfortunately he is right about the sponsors.
The sponsors need to use somebody that actually looks like the all american man, over 60% of the country is overweight, roys ring name is "big country" what better all american to sponsor than roy nelson?