The Leg grab ban in Judo: The Shintaro Higashi show
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Peter and I finally talk about the infamous leg grab ban! What do you guys think about the ban? What do you guys think about our arguments?
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Banning all lower body standup attacks has been great - at watering down judo as a serious martial art. If the IJF wants to finish the job, they can take away all newaza completely. Just have people stand up immediately when anyone hits the ground. “Most TV audience don’t understand that boring stuff anyway”. You’ll attract more people who are into theatrics and showmanship, and push away even more martial artists.
Well said.😎🥋
Sport judo is not theatrics and showmanship, unless you think basketball and wrestling and boxing are also theatrics and showmanship. All of these sports are full-on battles of willpower, strength, agility, stamina, strategic thinking, guts, aggression, etc.
It is 100% true that banning leg grabs removes a lot of applicability to other combat sports, but honestly speaking, is that such a big deal? If you are doing judo thinking it's a complete martial art, well, that's just delusional. To really get a comprehensive understanding of martial arts you MUST train other disciplines. Just like wrestling, boxing, kickboxing, BJJ, etc, judo is NOT a complete martial art or combat sport, and it never was.
@@jsl8461 nobody said judo was complete ? Nah?
@@jsl8461 boxing isnt a complete combat sport, same for any other martial art or combat sport 🤷🏻♂️
banning lower body standup attacks has one advantage though - it's the same advantage Greco-Roman Wrestling has from the same rule. If you compare it to freestyle wrestling, Greco practitioners are standing much more upright since they don't need to worry about leg shots and grabs. This translates well to actual fighting, since you don't want your head at knee level in an actual fight. Still, I agree with you that it does water down the sport, and I don't understand the direction the IJF is taking since they're not trying to keep it a serious fighting art, the restrictions on ne waza are crazy
EDIT: I forgot for a second that judo was fine in the past when the leg grabs were legal. Damn IJF.
Leg grab shouldn't have been banned.
I agree
I agree. Now you have a sport is not progressing. A judoka from the 80s is way better then one now
@@treroney4720 self-defense is not the main reason why I train judo, but since the leg grabs has been banned, I am feeling pretty safe during randori that no one will attack my legs and I am not taught to actually counter it if such thing would happen on the street, I do not have that thing in my mind to move properly to not give my opponent an opportunity to grab my leg. Pretty sad.
@@ottpsfj Exactly. This type of ban just weakens judo and judoka. Now we have judo black belts who can easily be taken down by such a basic technique, because they've never been exposed to it. Sad.
@@ottpsfj in my judo dojo i have been taught guillotine as morote gari counter
You have many types of wrestling, freestyle, greco, folk. why not just have a Judo Olympic and Judo freestyle competitions?
I love this, add no gi judo aswell !
@@MrNoorIskandar In my opinion, it loses the essence of Judo too much. I think training no gi is important, but not competing
Great ideia!! I agree with you. We'have judô athletes and judô fighters.
@@MrNoorIskandar This is what I have been saying, no gi grappling/bjj.
@@dominicrossitto5890 with many rounds not just straight 15 mins 1 round match. Is boring
Dude is a monster, articulate, multi-disciplined....most important humble and more about the arts than himself.
A Kosen Judo division, would be interesting. Particularly because Kosen is a team sport. I don't think it will ever happen, but it would be interesting.
Kosen judo is very interesting, it's a lot closer to original judo (the predecessor of modern Olympic judo and modern BJJ), with an even emphasis on standup and groundwork. Some of the coolest newaza techniques that we see in IBJJF are also imported from kosen judo (along with Sambo, and in more recent years, BJJ).
That being said, kosen judo is not that spectator friendly. It's fun and interesting to practice, it's cool to watch for grappling nerds because they use some really unique moves and strategies, but it's also way less interesting to watch for casual spectators.
I really like current IJF judo ruleset, which is phenomenal when it comes to lots of big giant throws. The pace is blisteringly fast, and most of the matches end in giant ippon's.
Real Judo has leg grabs, regardless of what sporting bodies currently say.
This topic has endless possibilities, great talk you guys.
They gave you a shout out lol
Lol. Chadi!
Karate is actually in the olympics now lol. First time ever for Tokyo
and olympic taekwondo is way more boring than karate
Banning leg grabs messed up my combination sequence. Messed my right knee meniscus up.
I love mixing judo and wrestling.
54:28 Can you imagine judo as a world currency? You go to the car dealership, you get into a price dispute on the price of the vehicle, then you and the salesman can legally settle it by pulling out a mat and doing a 4 minute judo match.
Completely agree with a "unified" rules regime where pretty much everything goes. I actually think that ought to be gi-bjj's contribution to the grappling family legacy since its ruleset already kind of allows everything. Just modify the rules and point/penalty system a bit (different points for different types of takedowns, maybe 4pts for ippon, 2 for standard knockdown and three seconds of control, maybe keep the 30 second pin win, penalize guard pulls, etc) and bam, ready to go.
Yesssss
It wouldn’t be called bjj tho the ibjff would never concede to that ruleset/ being that the ibjff is already in talks with the IOC it’s probably not going to play out like that unfortunately. That sounds great tho.
I was wondering this myself I just started Judo and when I took a guy down I was told you can't grab the legs and it made no sense to me. Wish it weren't banned it makes Judo seem water down and actually has me questioning if I should continue.
If they dont allow you to even train it. I wouldnt continue
Any way if you just started judo you shouldn’t be grabbing them for the first couple years. Focus is on the other techniques for your level. So do continue, and once you are comfortable with Judo at green belt at least, then they will benefit you. If you have question go ahead
Yeah but most BJJ schools you run into the opposite extreme, they won't let you do any stand-up, and those that will, most people will just sit down and butt scoot and won't do any stand up grappling @@Balaclavaballistics
Train complete Judo, dial it back for competitions that live in the IJF rules. Don't make your competition game to dependent on them or on sequences/combos that to heavily depend on leg grabs... or any one technique, it's true that the jack of all trades is the master of none. But you do need at least 3 or 4 throws in your war chest.
A Very insightful and well rounded discussion, much appreciated
I Was wondering about this myself the Other day. So happy to be able to watch this
Bring back leg grabs and let judo be a serious martial art again
Great as always!
I agree Judo should have many more possibilites, freestyle judo, greco judo, kosen judo !
Something i have very strong feelings about, what a great idea to talk about for your podcast. Keep it up with the great ideas
Bring back leg Grabs !!!
Quickly checking France's most practiced sports list :
1. Soccer
2. Tennis
3. Horse riding ( 700 000 people )
4. Judo ( 600 000 people )
That is a surprise.
Great video.
Can I ask if you could please do a video 📹on the best knee braces/supports to wear whilst training
I’m persian I love Mollaei ! That story probably got a few more eyes on the sport.
Judo must be brought back to its martial roots. In randori, only grappling is allowed (Atemi Waza exists only in Kata). So, it is just unacceptable to limit even more the grappling techniques by removing leg grabs. Judo has been transformed in Greco-Roman with a gi. That's why many practitioners left Judo to train in other martial sports like BJJ or freestyle Judo.
Nice subject!
(Dad sigh)
I get it in theory... I do. Doesn't mean I like it.
Sport for Sport or Sport for Martial art and personal Development. Banning Leg grabs is like penalising the small guy in favour of leggy competitors.
Great ideas for 1) All in Golden Score
2) Two divisions with and without leg grabs and newaza, ala Kosen judo. 3) Kata competition Nage and Kimi no Kata . 4) Competitors could compete to get three medals one 🏅 for each part.
Could even do the two divisions sequentially ala two half’s of a match ie first Standing no leg grabs then second Kosen/BJJ. If a tie ie opposing Ippon then golden round or Kata competition result.
In my opinion, Every judoka should practice everything that's highly effective for self defense.
The sport competitors should adjusts themselves to competition rules. Sport rules can be crippling and have a short or long term effectiveness. Look at BJJ it doesn't reward take downs only two points and you must take down and pin for 3 seconds to get two points. Pulling guard and sweeping becomes so much more energy efficient. Finally penalties for double guard pulling. Also, the absence of heel hooks in no Gi. These rules are finally being modified again thankfully.
In my opinion, the lack of structure prevents it from becoming an Olympic sport but it also allows it to develop freely. I love the idea of it being under the Judo umbrella eventually in the future but politics and egos are a hard thing to manage.
I absolutely love the content of your channel. I trained judo in Brazil ( blue belt ) and became a BJJ Black Belt here in the US. I love both sports!!!
A little history from Brazil that many might not know. There were many Japanese teaching ju jitsu in Brazil and all over the world at the time.
Some raising the flag of ju jitsu, some straight from the kodokan dojo.
The Gracies didn’t want to fall under kodokan umbrella and their structure. ( the same thing happened to them decades later in the US )
The Gracies had their own vision and needed the freedom to do whatever they wanted. They focused much more on ground fighting. Kano’s blind spot let's say.
They knew the Japanese were years ahead and couldn't compete with them standing. So the focused on the opposite. That's also because they main focus were using and training Ju Jitsu as a real fight scenarios where you have to make the opponent quit and not as much as a sport.
Just like other Japaneses teaching in Brazil at the time, the Gracies were teaching ju jitsu and marketing themselves as a jiu jitsu, fighters and teachers. Exactly like all the others Japanese fighter that were in Brazil promoting and marketing themselves as ju jitsu fighters and teachers as well, and not promoting the kodokan from Japan. Remember they were immigrants starting a new life in Brasil. Trying to make money. Of course there were some Japanese promoting the kodokan as well. That's why Brazil has a solid Olimpic Judo and schools over there.
Ju Jitsu the original, became Kano ju jitsu that became kodokan judo. This linage is the most important. All the modern sports like BJJ, sambo, Olympic judo, even submission wrestling are all amazing branches from the same tree. Again they are all different sports from the same art.
When gracies took it to US they patented Gracie jiu jitsu. With the growth of Jiu Jitsu, a competition scene of the sport jiu jitsu started growing in Brazil. Because of the refinement of the execution of the techniques and growth of the “new sport”, many gyms were opening everywhere. People were getting promoted and opening new gyms or “business” all over Brazil and the world. In the US the same thing started to happen. People were migrating to teach the art after the boom from the first UFC.
So with the money opportunities in the US many people wanted to teach jiu jitsu but didn’t want to pay to use the Gracie name. ( History repeats itself as it had happened decades earlier in Brazil )
As the American scene evolved and grew, there was a need to create a federation and for marketing purposes, again the “ Brazilian “ jiu jitsu federation was created. The Brazilian was to show that it was the same art from the “Gracies “ without any legal trademark problems.
My point is Please you make sure to train both modern BJJ + modern judo = real ju jitsu
Best of both worlds. Respect both sports because it is the same ART. Respect all the pioneers that paved the way on both sides of the spectrum. Because of each person involved in the process we today have all these greatness of grappling around.
You are doing great work Judo is immense. Keep it up!!! Much respect. Osu !
I feel like they could've gone another route, maybe leg grab throws not counting as Ippon, or perhaps limiting throws with leg grab to one per match, idk, if they wanted dynamic user friendly matches, I mean, wrestling and BJJ seem popular enough with the leg grabs.
Lol this podcast is a G
Interesting chat! The problem with judo is that it’s simultaneously a martial art and a sport at the same time. People change rules in normal sports all the time and people just move on, like all the rugby scrum and rucking rules that have been changed in the past decade. I’d like to know the percentages of people who practice judo as a sport, a martial art, or both. Personally I think there is a fine line between sport and martial art in regard to judo, the martial art aspect of it is just Japanese culture and the amount of people that confuse this as “being the martial way” is pretty interesting to me.
Ironically, I practice the martial art aspect, but that begs for perfection and endless repetition. So that's always helped me and my school with tournaments. We won a few team medals, so those who practice the art more, in my opinion, do better at lower levels than those who practice the sport primarily.
It is unfortunate that the new Olympic rules are affecting how dojo’s teach judo. These two should be separate unless it is a dojo that it is known for training Olympic judokas.. I want to learn the art and the many different technics…
as a beginner at judo, I still think watching a well performed leg throw is beautiful and looks like judo. They could introduce it in a format where it doesn't dominate as much where for instance you have to have proper kumi kata before initiating a throw..Or limiting the techniques so that the attacks are limited in that way.
i started doing judo when the leg grab ban just started, so i had faced plenty of old school senseis that are just waiting to do sukui nage and what not, so i have been pretty indifferent about leg grabbing,
despite i think it's a sport and it's gotta take the spectator into account, the classical judo included the leg grabs for good reasons, and shouldn't be forgotten.
i love how Higashi sensei is keeping it very open minded and very casual to preserve the practicality and the application of the grappling art, keep doing what you do sir, i hope you do well despite the difficult times. Fans from Taiwan
yeah i mean i remember when I started, tai o they woudl just lift uou up as a counter they took that all aay
Wrestling was voted off because of the corruption of the governing body, then FILA. I agree the leg ban was instated to make Judo more viewer friendly.
Some of the leg grabs are very spectacular for TV it is just ridiculous.
Freestyle Judo in Olympia ... 😍
I dont think Kano would approve. IJF has ruined competitions in a way
Boy do I miss the good ole koka days...
Katagurma was borowed from kano in kito. Days
MMA is the closest to the true hand-to-hand combat martial art. Wrestling, grappling, kicking and stricking are the four essential arts of a complete fighter.
I personaly enjoy watching mma the most because it is the closest to a real fight (while still providing protection for the fighters).
Limiting any of the four arts makes the fighters less effective and the fight less realistic.
Tai garuma is a big leg throw!
Te guruma
@@Mtripp005 thanx
1 argument i think, is after ban more injuries or before ban? Because only if its more harmful it is reason to abandon ban
I'm ok with the judo rule changes, because I like the standing judo + transitions to newaza, but it's a shame that classic wrestling had to change just for the viewership. It's good that newaza also has that requirement of progressing and when it's in a halt, mate. Like everybody has seen what it's like when two beginner judokas go 100% defensive standing up and nothing happens. It doesn't look or feel like judo. Similar to avoiding the interaction by completely avoiding grips or shooting to the legs. I'll watch/play bjj if I want someone going straight to ground/dive for legs and avoid standing grappling. To me it stands for a reason that you can also get penalized for poor throw attempts in hopes of getting straight to newaza (some people would borderline do standing newaza takedowns). In fact that's what's so fantastic about the rule change. Now people can go to bjj if they don't like throws and prefer leg game. Or if they want throws with their leg action, they can go to wrestling. I'll claim most of us got into judo after seeing the throws, that's what sets judo apart for real, that's how you recognized it as judo and not as something else and got interested.
How about more judo medals: right-handed, left-handed, 2 minute matches, 10 minute matches, like you said newaza, kata, ukemis.
I got a shido for reaching for the belt and brushing a leg. Imagine if it was still a hansakou.
Around the world, many young men are in their military. I wonder what they have to say about martial functionality vs. spectator pleasing.
Correct. Judo is meant to be a martial art supposed to defend yourself from being fucked by bullies 😊. And leg grabs, mechanically speaking is the most efficient way to throw someone, because the base closer to the ground ( legs) are stripped off from and then it becomes easier to throw an opponent away.
Id practice freestyle judo than the watered down version consisting only of hip throws and foot sweeps.
Once you are on the ground of course you can grab a leg but not while standing up
Judo is being watered down to the point where it's basically Greco Roman with a gi.
I think the idea that grappling sports will ever have spectator value is flawed at its base. Their value has always been for the competitors in it , and thus should be
So basically the Olympics ruins everything got it. I do love watching the Olympics though but really wish there was a professional Judo League that uses leg attacks because that would be sweet or and open rules jacket grappling with like Sambo fighters, Judokas, wrestlers, and BJJ guys going out and can do anything (except like strikes, eye pokes, groin shots and other dirty moves.) Slams, Throws, Takedowns, Pins, Submissions - Neck, chokes, elbow locks, shoulder locks, knee locks, ankle locks ECT. Would be entertaining to watch with like boxing promotion style of hyper personalities and interesting to see how bjj guys adapt to pins. (Of course this would NEVER be made or done)
You mentioned how height matters more after the banning of leg atacks🤔
yeah gives the tall an advantsge
@@---tx9xx a MAJOR advantage. It seems like a purely marketing decision trying to exclude those tough Hairy Muslim wrestlers that are so good at snatching people's legs out. Let's face it they're incredible grapplers but not very marketable for the IOC/IJF advertising concerns.... they want tall slender good-looking western Europeans and Asians to represent their sport, not the same cast of characters that dominate WRESTLING and of course they're absolutely terrified of what's going to happen when wrestling finally gets the ax because it doesn't appeal to the real boss of the IOC... commercialism!
@@---tx9xx 6'8" Teddy Riner only became dominant after they banned leg attacks, this was not a coincidence
On the other hand, Judo has declined every year worldwide since the 60s
I’m a long time wrestling coach. It frustrates me that the wrestling community shows so little care for what appeals to casual fans. I love Greco-Roman wrestling but as a sports product it’s wildly boring to anyone not actively participating. Nobody wants to watch hand fighting and a gut wrench competition. Freestyle and American folkstyle suffer from this insular attitude too.
Greco should be something close to no-go judo but they refuse to make changes to enable more standing throws.
Judo at least is trying to appeal to a broad audience and deserves full marks for that.
The toxic attitude of the Olympic committee poisoned Martial Arts
Because of the Olympics trying to eliminate wrestling, there should be concerns that leg grabbing could lump judo with wrestling. I understand that the IJF wants judo to be unique. I also understand that judo does not want Sambo and wrestling practitioners to dominate judo competitions.
I do wish that they allowed throws that used legs such as kata guruma and would only reward points if the uke's body were lifted above the tori's waist.
How do you guys shoot in wrestling or do seoi otoshi in judo without knees hurting (not the bone or something similar but just the top skin layer of your knees)?
It just doesn't hurt. Because of the mat and pants. In shorts on tarmac would be a totally different story.
Wear knee pads or tight leggings if you need to protect the skin on your knees. Maybe not fashionable but it’s the only reliable solution.
Actually, karate wad scheduledto become an OlympicSport in 2020,...will see now that there is talk of the Olympics being delayed again.
NO GI Jiu Jitsu/grappling would be a better option to become an Olympic Sport.
As far as Ne Waza, if the general population was educated on the techniques (but we KNOW the I.O.C. would never make the time to research this), people would not find it so boring.
A completely different sport (MMA) but when ZUFFA purchased the UFC, many early fans were just interested in seeing "tough man competitions", punching, kicking and throws and slams, but had no real interest in technical wrestling or grappling because the casual fans did not understand what was happening on the ground. At the beginning of the early ZUFFA run UFC PPVs, they ran quick submission/BJJ demos and after a few months, live audiences did not boo anywhere near as much when the competition went to the ground.
But this will never happen. 🥋
I really dont care about leg grab being banned in Olympics - but why are all the moves now stripped entirely out of the grading curriculum and why are they not allowed in other tournaments like the worlds championships for example? I understand there being specific rules for the olympics but that should not remove those throws from Judo as a whole.
They should at least still teach leg takedowns.
The IOC committee vote to remove wrestling (obv they're not a dfemocratically elected committee) was also a "politically-correct/woke" one - ie becuase there isn't really a women's div
I like the current rule set. I think it highlights Judo's identity and area of expertise. I just dont like the "direct bear hug" rule.... that ones kinda lame.
The current rules are pretty awesome from a spectator perspective. I love them, the old rules really encourage too much stalling.
That being said, I do think that casuals and low level competitors should train with leg grabs, since that's pretty important knowledge. But once they get to a certain level they absolutely should transition over to the Olympic rules, which are more awesome.
Looks good from a spectator perspective. Not good from a real self defense perspective. If a bigger guy would try to bully his way into you, your easiest way to defend yourself is to grab his legs and efficiently trip him off balance. This gives a vulnerable person a great chance of survival. 😊😊😊
What they did from a viewer perspective doesn't add up anymore. They banned kansetsu waza while standing so that basically banned ude gaeshi and flying juji gatame nothing is more than exciting than that. And the recent reverse seoi nage ban is ridiculous. Then they're gonna ban sode tsurikomi goshi
They should bring back leg grabs in judo. I will say limit the leg grabs then band it.
Is no gi judo more bjj or wrestling ?
Wrestling if it had chokes or bjj if it had hold downs
That was the mane reason why the leg was banned. After that my friends Japan became unstoppable . 4-5 golden medals every time? Come on. Leg grabbing is a part of judo. Don’t put one handed man against 2 handed.
Swimming is not a sport. It's a way to keep from drowning 😉
With wrestling on The Chopping Block the IJF was petrified they would be BESIEGED by unmarketable hairy Russian Muslims and Mongolians instead of the good-looking tall slim athletes from Asia and Europe who sold so much more advertising opportunity... big advertisers don't want poor countries winning the medal because theyre so much less marketable!!
Advertising opportunity... thats All the IJF/IOC cares about these days. That's why they're more interested in extreme skateboarding than SUMO!
I practice(...ed - thanks covid! -_-) bjj and I have to agree: in the current ruleset bjj is just boring to watch, even for me, an insider. I rarely watch bjj competitions, and my few favourite competitors are cross trained in Judo and focus on less convoluted (i.e. more practical) straightforward stuff (my favourite is Xande RIbeiro with his kataguruma's in gi, and killer closed guard in no-gi). I do think worm guard and similar stuff are stupid and gamey and feel it would be better for the sport if it was banned or somehow limited as it is completely unrealistic and therefore nothing of practical value would be lost from the martial art. And that despite having a lot of respect for his creator, Kornelius, who is very smart and worked it out within the currently allowed rules (and besides at least he actually follows the spirit of bjj in trying to submit people, while most ibjjf competitors made a whole career based on getting ahead by minor advantages and then running around the area refusing to seriously engage - see Leandro Lo for one of the worst offenders at top level).
In fact, I had taken up judo too precisely because I do feel bjj in its current form is incomplete and I would totally be up for a ruleset which is a middle ground between judo and bjj, a ruleset where you do not *have* to engage on the ground like bjj does, but you *do* have to actually escape or reach a neutral position if your opponent does bring you to the ground (and without 50% of subs banned) instead of pancaking (which is the dumbest thing to do irl and yet what ijf newaza encourages) and get saved by a matte. You can't wait for the referee to save you from a bad position while standing, so why can you do it on the ground?
Regarding leg ban, tbh, imo they should simply adopt freestyle judo rules where you can use leg grabs but only AFTER establishing at least one grip. Meaning no shooting doubles from afar, but you can totally use kata guruma, or leg pick to counter
The results haven't changed much, at least not on the male category. Japan wins 1, 2 categories, the rest is all over.
Funny you guys mention BJJ as a boring Olympic sport. I heard they’re actually going for “combat” BJJ. So they would allow slapping.😂
bring your Judo to Bjj we need better standup game and you can do basically anything you want, or atleast start a secondary no olimpic branch of oldschool Judo, you are gonna end up like Taekuondo if you end up to sporty
I actually liked the 2010-2013 rules personally.
The more rules you put within your competition the less effective your art will be. The reality is, the sport of judo has gotten very far from what the spirit of judo was meant to be.
When striking is banned people crouch to avoid leg grabs. When people can strike they stand upright to avoid getting knocked out. Banning leg grabs forces judoka back into an upright combative posture making it MORE effective as a martial art not less. It does make it LESS effective as an art that can be used in other grappling rule sets but I'm not sure why we should care about that.
This is the worst and stupid thing they did to hurt Judo and not to mention that in tournaments they don't let any grappling. It's totally stupid . Thanks
In what tournaments they don't allow grappling?
I got into Judo for the self-defense and combat aspect and was competing actively around 2008-2010. Once the leg grab ban came, I said bye and left for bjj. IJF and IOC ruined Judo for me. Now it just looks like Greco Roman Wrestling in Pajamas. The best part is that Judokas now win World Championships and Olympic medals with shido. Just see who can rack up more penalties and we will decide a winner that way. This is so much better than double-leg takedown shoot stalling. 😂
throws are still effective
@@Supermomo2007 Who said they aren't?
Okay, so does it mean that Wrestling is superior to Judo? Since it can take Judoka down everytime and Judoka can't do anything
@@andl4481 Brick does beat wrestling lol
It depends judo still has the submission and ground game.
Without having heard the podcast before:
What about the leg grabs? I started Judo 3 years before. Never had them don't miss them. There is a whole generation of athletes growing up without them and the rest moved on.
I get it. Leg grabs is for a full curriculuum for Judo as a complete Martial Arts. But if you bring that argument: What about strikes? What about kicks? what about Kani Basami? I know there should be sth in Judo after you reached your 30s for the enthusiasts who dont or cant compete anymore but those arguments are all over the places.
Because judo is a grappling martial art and they made half of the moves illegal
so to make it exciting for who, get better commentator's that explain better?... more blood, bone brakes, chokes? or are they going to make it blindfolded, on raised tilted platforms, tag-team, females in bikinis
You forgot the moat full of crocodiles.
@@chaos_omega sharks with lasers!
Was interested in learning Judo. Now I'm not. Thanks. All these schools nearby teach according to sport rules. Sports ruin martial arts. I want to be a skilled weapon that can defend myself and friends and family, not a pretty stage performer.
I think it's a ridiculously stupid way to refer to it, obviously done by western europeans who want to denigrate these different throws by classifying them all as "leg grabs", when they are all different and technical techniques
I've never liked the term "Leg grab ban". They weren't really banned. They are still legal in newaza. If someone really likes morote gari, kibisu gaeshi, sukui nage, etc...They can still incorporate those techniques into newaza in order to score with Osaekomi.
Please tell me you're joking.
Nope.... im not
Judo is overall a boring spectator sport.