Coleman CT200U(EX) Mini Bike | Upgrade Those Nasty Stock Footpegs! [4K]
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Same goes for BT200X, CT200U, CT200U-EXR, CT200U.. (and Maybe Trailmaster MB200-2, not sure yet, will update!)
I need to put a reminder on here, these sharper pointier foot pegs are probably more dangerous if you crash! Always wear boots, jeans, a long sleeved shirt and gloves, and a helmet while riding!
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Exact pegs I bought on Ebay:
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I think these are basically the same on Amazon but cheaper:
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And I think these are a little higher priced but probably better quality:
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Regarding stainless magnetism:
There's a lot of different types of stainless steel and some are magnetic and some aren't. I wasn't using it as a test to see whether or not it was stainless though, just curious. Those black ones are cast "aluminum" (probably pot metal) and falsely advertised as stainless steel. The ones I used are stainless of some sort, maybe not 409 or 304. It's Chinese cast "stainless" which you saw had a very little bit of magnetism but were more than twice the weight of the falsely advertised black aluminum ones.
It's not 304 stainless like on a nice car muffler that isn't magnetic. But 409 stainless is magnetic, I just installed a cat-back exhaust on my car made out of that and it is magnetic and also stainless steel..
help.summitracing.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3932/~/what-is-the-difference-between-304-and-409-stainless-steel%3F
"409 stainless steel can be almost 90% iron. This means a magnet will stick to it. It will also develop surface rust over time, especially after being exposed to heat"
"304 stainless steel has a much lower concentration of iron. A magnet will not stick to it. It will also develop a golden color over time, after being exposed to heat.
"Welded or bent areas of 304 stainless steel could be magnetic. If you do check it with a magnet, check a straight section that has not been welded."
"All stainless steel contains chromium and other elements. The added elements make the metal harder, stronger, and resist corrosion. The 2 main types of stainless steel used for exhaust parts are 304 and 409."
"The difference between the types of stainless steel is the amount of chromium and nickel found in each. 304 stainless steel contains a much higher percentage of chromium and nickel. This makes it much more resistant to rust. 409 stainless steel is still more rust-resistant than Aluminized Steel. However, neither type of metal is 100% rust-proof."
I followed your advice and added these pegs to my coleman bikes. I drilled the holes and slightly bent the tabs. It was pretty easy. 100% better! Thank you!
That's awesome! Aren't they great? Hey something I forgot to mention.. They will do more damage to you in a crash than stock ones, so I'd always were boots and jeans if you run these types of pegs. These aren't too sharp but probably worse than the stock ones. Just something to think about.
Thanks for the help and links! I just ordered a pair of pegs
🤘😎🤘
Love the ct200u ex videos
Thanks for watching! ✌️
Great upgrade. Thanks. Thinking to originals can be used as foot rests forward with a tube and u bolts.
I'm afraid that would conflict with the forks.
@@cwmaxfield2000 👍 Yeah they're a lot better than the stock pegs for sure. I think you could mount a second set of pegs though if you wanted. Might take some fabrication though.
@@bwxmoto maybe for a small passenger ??
Those new foot rests look as if theyre worlds better than the factory ones
Took a little ride today.. Much better grip on the pegs! Didn't do anything crazy but I can already tell they are a lot better. Definitely worth the trouble of installing them.
@@bwxmoto ill probably be ordering some for my bike too those aluminum suck
Fore sure!
Nice foot peg upgrade, I think I'll try a pair on my new build. I was thinking of getting a bobber spring seat kit for the rise and comfort.
I've seen people do that with the seat and it seems to work. You have to fabricate some sort of plate and hinge though but it would be worth it I bet. I might try it someday too. Yeah try these pegs and see what you think. I took a short ride today and they work great!
I also bought those aluminum footpegs for my TW200 but I was not able to install them on broke a spring in the process, but i don't think I got the right ones though. Those Stainless Steel ones look a lot better! And by the way stainless steel isn't suppose to be magnetic, but it can be if it is cheap and lower quality.
TrailWayMarc LOL yeah I’m sure it’s low quality 😆 But for these mini bikes it’s ok. Those Krator ones work great on the TW200. Sometimes they go out of stock for a long time. Right now they are only about $17!
Those black “plastic” foot pegs are new wonder material called aluminum.
That being said.
I really didn’t have a problem with the factory pegs. Actually was surprised they weren’t more slippery than they were. Wanted the red anodized as I saw them in a video and thought the looked sharp. Have after market pegs in my KLR so thought I’d give em a try.
Cheaper out and got the black aluminum like in this video. Did not drill out the bike. Reused original pins. That way I can replace original pegs should the break.
That being said. Yes they are grippier. The return spring is nice. But … they are shorter and have less surface. Not sure I like em.
But those Stainless steel ones look longer.
Just my two. Ride on.
More like chinesium pot metal. I'd eat my hat if it's pure aluminum, probably a lot of zinc and other dirt and garbage scraped up off the floor and thrown in there. Seller listed them as stainless steel. 😆
Awesome video thanks
Thanks for the vid man. I purchased the nicer pair through your affiliate link.
Thay seat riser is pretty neat
Im gonna do that to my bike
It's worth it, stock seat height makes me feel like I'm about ready to fall off the back all the time and you sit pretty low too. I like the seat a little higher for sure. It's still comfortable though.
@@bwxmoto i know what you mean i slide too and it gets annoying always having to stop to abjust position on the seat
Yeah it's a lot better with seat raised a little for sure. I guess one reason to keep seat low is if you want smaller kids to be able to ride but other than that it seems too low to me!
Hey I just bought one a week ago I was wondering if you could do a video on how to remove the throttle screw to unlock it's full potential to go 25 mph
I would but I've never had to do that. I think most people just cut it or drill it out. I would actually drill it out and use the threads to put in another one and use that if a new rider or child wanted to learn to ride it. On all mine I have Predator motors with throttle screw in tact. On the one that is the original engine, I don't think the throttle screw is welded, they only did that starting in 2019 or something like that. But yeah I'd just get a hack saw and cut it or drill it out with a drill if you want to remove it quickly.
Great video.!!Quick question
Why don’t you add suspension springs under the seat? I did to mine and it’s a big difference.
Thanks! Yeah I've seen some cool seat suspension mods out there. I actually just bought an MB200-2 with rear suspension. I have a bunch of minis.. still. LOL
Love the shop. Great review. Need to replace some on my minis, but why would you even drive in weeds like that in the first place? Dude. Never had my foot pegs pop up. Going in my amazon cart. And subbed your channel. 3/4 plywood would work good for seat riser and cut to follow seat form.
Thanks! 🙏 And I guess I drive in crap like that because sometimes you have to to get to another trail or get around trees that are fallen or stuff like that. Stuff gets overgrown like crazy out here in the summer!
Yeah I think that’s what I’m going to do with that seat riser. Three-quarter inch plywood to follow most of the seat pan for support and paint it black. Should work good!
Well even at 6'2" I didnt think of a seat riser (so used to the shorter mini's I was happy the seat is as good as it is), now Im intrigued. Think I even have some 1" rough cut somewhere.
John Bass Yeah I mean if you’re just cruising around on easy terrain I don’t think you need it really. But if you start trying to climb some really steep stuff it does help quite a bit to be a little bit higher up. Especially since that seat kind of makes you feel like you’re falling off the back sometimes if your front wheels in the air or something like that! LOL
Yep, the footpegs are the only thing I don't like about my mini bike. Having them flipping up is annoying. I'm going to swap them out like you did.
Yeah makes a big difference when riding!
Thanks my friend on the 411 concerning the wide glide front end.. Be safe. But Ride...>. ★""H*A*₹*D'™★ .
What tires do you have on that bike?
Kenda scorpion 20x7x8. Very nice tires for these bikes.
Where did you get the pipe from???
Link in description but maybe hard to find: ARSPORT Short Header amzn.to/3hGgJUQ Very high quality pipe. The guy makes them in in the USA.
I think this is the same but maybe longer with a slash cut on the end. ARSPORT header slash cut amzn.to/3rAkDqz
The muffler in an RLV 1" but it's a little too small for the pipe. Had to force it on there. The guy made me a smaller 1" OD diameter pipe custom that I have on my BT200X with a 1" RLV and it fits on there a lot better.
I was looking around and there's even another one similar but longer yet, and has a curve on the end. Pretty cool. amzn.to/3uAXeaz
Is it hard to install these scorpion tires? Or new tires in general ?
Yeah it’s s huge pain to get them on if they’re tight. I ended up taking them to Mavis tire. Best 15 bucks I ever spent.
OK I searched over Amazon and I can’t find that muffler could you let me know where you found it I ordered the same header you have so it should work
The 1" one won't fit the stock ARSPORT header because that is larger than 1", I had him make me a custom 1" O.D. header and that does work with the 1" RLV. I think if you got the regular 28mm header you need a 1-18" RLV and might need a shim not sure.
1" (can find them different places)
www.ombwarehouse.com/rlv-exhaust-silencer-1-1.html
First one I saw on google search 1-1/8" RLV
www.kartpartsdepot.com/Silencer_Stock_Class_p/sm-wkas118.htm
Can find them on ebay and different places. They go in and out of stock a lot so just have to search around google. I found the last one at BMI karts I think.
www.bmikarts.com/search_results.html?k=RLV&search=
But you have to search around for best price + shipping + tax all added up. It's worth it though, they quiet it down a lot and still make good power.
@@bwxmoto Pipe Diameter. OD: 26.86mm ID: 21.70mm
@@AngelHernandez-lv7xy Hmmm..
26.86mm = 1.05 in
Mine was 26.86 mm and that was big enough to make 1" RLV not fit.
Yeah because 1" = 25.4 mm. So yeah I think with that pipe you'd still need a larger 1-18" RLV and then might need a shim.
I did end up getting my 1" RLV on there but it didn't go on all the way and I had to smash it on with a hammer and it wasn't pretty. I would get the larger RLV and shim it up if needed.
Then on the next one I bought for BT200X I had him make me a 1" O.D. header and the 1" RLV fit perfect.
@@bwxmoto thank you
Can you help me out and tell me where to get that tube suspension for the ct200u. Man I cant find one anywhere please advise thanks T~ from the flatlamds
Oh yeah they are out of stock right now. People have called Coleman and some reported they'll be back in stock in April, others were told June apparently. Sucks because it's a nice upgrade but worth the wait.
There's a link in my how-to vid for installing them- in the description in that vid..
On the Coleman web page it doesn't say "out of stock", it's a bad website design so it just has no button to add to cart. They'll be back in stock pretty soon though so that's good news. I'd just keep checking that link once a week.
what brand is the torque converter
Probably MOOSUN or whatever they call it. But it really does not matter. If it's not a an original Comet brand (made in the USA and expensive), then it's a Chinese clone TAV2 and they are all the same across "brands". There's a link for them in description. But I'd just get the cheapest one that is the correct size from a seller that looks legit on Amazon. Sometimes ebay has them a few bucks cheaper.
Follow these links, but see if there are any cheaper ones, and then buy the cheapest one you can find that is the correct size. That's what I always have done and never got a bad one.
30 Series TAV2 3/4" Torque Converter:
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@@bwxmoto how did you get the torque converter to fit if the shaft on the engine is 5/8 and the torque converter in the description is for 3/4 I've seen adapters but the reviews for every one say they dont fit
Are they any wider than stock?
Good question! I never compared them like that. They feel about the same, but they are obviously much fatter back to front so they feel "bigger", but they might not stick out as far. Next time I'm in the garage I'll check.
@@bwxmoto just installed a tav 30 on my EX and I hate how it takes up half the peg now
Ohh.. hmm, is it a smaller mini bike? On my bikes the pegs still start about where the TV cover ends. Plenty of room. I wear a size 11.5 and have no problems getting my feet on there.
I noticed you said EX - it seems ok on my EX 👍. I’ll still measure them when I go down there in the garage.
First thing I do to all my mini bikes and then I pull the motor because every time I go to harbor freight I buy a 212 my son and 2 son in law's like to race mini bikes been messing with small engine for years I'm a Diesel mechanic by trade and a fab welder work on a lot of heavy equipment my boys run motor for about a session then I build 3 fresh ones in the winter for them I have a mb200 full suspension I ride normally basic predator 301 build runs about 55 I've got a Baja200 with a build 212 tillotson it runs 60 and the bike the boys started racing is a ct200u it's a tillotson 225r built out to a 236 a 68 vw smog pump mikuni 28mm 8 sec nos shot blow off is springer for 16 pounds of boost it ran 93 with a 5 8 110 pound son in law on it he lost a pound and a par of shorts but lived another day
LOL Nice! You have a 301 on an MB200? Many mods to fit it on frame? I like the sounds of a 301 on that bike. Obviously would need motorcycle gas tank.
@@bwxmoto Only thing I did really was a riser and shaved the torque converter to fit motor has springs governor delete oil kill switch deleted and I did the small cam and wrist pin connecting rod since the oil pick up in them things are known to break off plus I did a billet flywheel it's pretty much stage 2 it's a great bike not the fasted but I have an 86 Honda 250r 3 wheeler with a rocket kit I have paddle for it set up for sand I've had a tire on it and it's really to much for street power band is a killer
@@bwxmoto oh and I did a 2 gal Harley tank I found on eBay for 114 bucks
@@davidpayne4084 That sounds pretty nice. I bet the 301's torque suits the MB200-2 nicely. I'm gonna go stage 1 and see how it feels. It's pretty gutless stock, more gutless than the Hisun stock feels on a Coleman, but it is a heavier bike.
@@bwxmoto yes it runs smoothly and 50 with no problems I've thought about re-gearing take the 70 tooth to a 50ish for more top speed but bike is perfect all you really need
Where can I get the seat riser
I just cut it out of 3/4” wood I had laying around and painted it black. Could use metal but that would be overkill. Maybe some sort if poly or thick plastic would work too.
@@bwxmoto thank you
Can you please put a link to the torque converter that you have? I am interested in one of those I just don’t know which one to but
Buy*
The cheapest one you can find on ebay or amazon. That's what I always do. The exact link to seller I bought from I think is in description but prices change, I'd just get the cheapest one you can. Just make sure it's for a #420 chain.
why did you remove the headlight? i want to know
Kevie Junior has a Hemi Predator 212- no lighting coil. I use a good flashlight mounted to bars or I might install a light bar. Lithium rechargeable flashlight with good LED works great though. Not a fan of those giant chrome lights really either.
My stock pegs had no bearings to start with
They must have fallen out!
@@bwxmoto nope just took everything off and painted it and found it out after watching you video
Riley Dunn hmm. I guess they never got installed. Or isn’t there even a place for them? Maybe they changed the design?
I don’t have snap anymore but I’m @bwx232 on IG. Send me a pic if you want. That’s interesting. 🤔
What muffler or exhaust are you running?
RLV muffler. 👍
Can you tell what 60t sprocket and what size and length of chain I should get I appreciate the the help I have a ct200u ex camo
For length that RK 98 link I gave you a link to in other comment is plenty. You will have to take a link or two out. Alveytech 60 tooth on Amazon. Link in the description. They go in and out stock a lot. They also sell them at Monsterscooterparts.
Thank you
How'd you get your money back yet you still have em?
I told them I'd send them back and Amazon said just keep them. They were more expensive than the identical ones being correctly advertised as aluminum at the time. So it was false advertising. They are definitely not steel (those black ones), probably not even aluminum, probably cast "pot metal" which is total garbage.
Not even sure I'd use them as a spare, I think they might break and leave jagged edges, could cut your leg up if not wearing high boots if you break them riding. They feel lighter weight than even solid aluminum would.
@@bwxmoto Nice!
Where did u get your exhaust
I got it in ebay from a guy who makes a bunch of different styles and shapes of headers but last I checked it was out of stock and listing was gone but he had another one just like it but it was a little longer towards the rear. I’ll see if I can find the link. I think he sells them on Amazon too.
Shawn seller link on ebay ebay.com/usr/andrei-x
Shawn here’s the link but it’s out of stock. I bet the dude would make one if you contacted him though. www.ebay.com/itm/273889693988
Shawn He’s on Amazon as ARSPORT but that header is gone there too. This is not like mine (link below) but you can see his profile there. He makes really nice stuff.
ARSPORT www.amazon.com/dp/B07H746ZGQ
Where did that exhaust come from
ARSPORT from Amazon. Link in description about 8 down from top of links section. Gotta get the one that sticks out 4". Also Adrei-x on EBay is the same dude. He makes them in Florida and they're super high quality.. And RLV muffler on the back.
So, how the actual fuck do I out pegs on my mini bike because there are no videos that exist on how to
I showed exactly how I did it.
What chain is that
#420 CHAIN amzn.to/32Xbvg7
There’s a lot of links in the description of lots of the stuff I use. Shop around for best price though because sometimes the prices go way up and another seller will have price closer to when I put the link up.
Magnet don’t stick to stainless steel
Actually it depends. There's a lot of different types of stainless steel and some are magnetic and some aren't. I wasn't using it as a test to see whether or not it was stainless though, just curious. Those black ones are cast aluminum and falsely advertised as stainless steel. The ones I used are stainless of some sort, maybe not 409 or 304. It's Chinese cast "stainless" which you saw had a very little bit of magnetism but were more than twice the weight of the falsely advertised black aluminum ones.
It's not 304 stainless like on a nice car muffler that isn't magnetic. But 409 stainless is magnetic, I just installed a cat-back exhaust on my car made out of that and it was magnetic and also stainless steel.
help.summitracing.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3932/~/what-is-the-difference-between-304-and-409-stainless-steel%3F
"409 stainless steel can be almost 90% iron. This means a magnet will stick to it. It will also develop surface rust over time, especially after being exposed to heat"
"304 stainless steel has a much lower concentration of iron. A magnet will not stick to it. It will also develop a golden color over time, after being exposed to heat.
"Welded or bent areas of 304 stainless steel could be magnetic. If you do check it with a magnet, check a straight section that has not been welded."
"All stainless steel contains chromium and other elements. The added elements make the metal harder, stronger, and resist corrosion. The 2 main types of stainless steel used for exhaust parts are 304 and 409."
"The difference between the types of stainless steel is the amount of chromium and nickel found in each. 304 stainless steel contains a much higher percentage of chromium and nickel. This makes it much more resistant to rust. 409 stainless steel is still more rust-resistant than Aluminized Steel. However, neither type of metal is 100% rust-proof."
Grip tape !
That might help in muddy/ wet slippery conditions. Wouldn't help with the stock pegs getting stuck in up position though. That is the biggest problem really, for me.
A good way to stop your pegs from coming up is keep your feet on em
Except when you're walking your bike through some brush or had your feet down to stop in tall weeds as shown in video, anonymous smartass.
I would rather the aluminum foot pegs because I rather them break then bending the foot peg bar on frame.
They flip up - I don't see how they would bend the frame. These would also break before the frame I think, they are cast steel which is much weaker than forged or even steel tubing which frame is made from.
@Quirin M. It is a mini, a Trail Bike' not a YZ450r dirt bike Lol'
They are Not Designed for Jumps Bro'
real stainless steel is not magnetic what you have is probably mixed with some stainless in it
Interesting: www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae546.cfm
I pinned a comment and updated description regarding this. After re-watching the vid finally I think I understand what you were saying, or why anyways.