@@Debilinside ppl thought that when they stopped getting dressed up for a flight, now I have some dirtbag in sweats, open toe sandals, a dirty T that takes off his sandals in the plane bc he wants to be comfortable... complacency sets in real quick
Its a phyc thing. Heavily studied. If people look casual, they act casual. If they look professional, they act professional. and people treat you different based on how you look. For example the office i work in is pretty chill for most offices, but I still wear dress shirts and pressed jeans every day (Alberta business casual). Yet because of the way I dress and walk, even the more senior people treat me like an authority, resulting in me having more power and influence than my title would suggest.
Definitely. I got a promotion years ago at an old company. Office / Corporate but pretty casual. Upper management dressed business casual for the most part. The VP explicitly told me she took note of me presenting well consistently when she interviewed me for her department. That confidence she said she knew would translate to clients. I kept to button downs, dress slacks and business dresses in the office always and a lot of coworkers wore jeans and leggings. I think it's unprofessional to be too relaxed at work even if I would rather be dressed down for comfort. I work from home now and make a point to dress up a little during the week to keep my mindset in the office during the workday. Also helps for those surprise video calls.
@@DigitalSorceress Agreed, it does help keep focus. I see it kinda like a uniform. As long as i wear this shirt, it is go time. Take it off at home, then relax.
@@HungerGames_PJO the theorist prime has retired and passed the torch to the new generation. he is going to be around ocacionally but not involved in the process anymore.
It should not. It means u r driven by external psychological stimuli like wearing bunch of clothes to FEEL productive. U r not allowed to express crestivity or be ur own version. U r forced to wear the same and look the same like everyone else.
@@shehanchanuka15The workplace is not a venue for self expression. Having some standards-as arbitrary as they may appear-makes a huge difference. You don’t have to take everything too seriously, but your job/career is exempt from that mindset. Otherwise don’t wonder why you don’t get the upward movement you feel so entitled to in your field. Work ethic is essentially arcane at this point.
As someone who works from home and needs to be dressed from the neck up. It's a mental thing. It gets you in the mindset of getting things done. If your school had uniforms this was drilled into you without you knowing about it. If you feel like shit, try a different outfit. It sounds superficial but it's a legit thing
FACTS it makes you more productive and there is no reason you need to be in depressing sweatpants at work. You're supposed to be professional in your profession
@@1libra.but why make it so you can’t wear them at all? Don’t you want your employees to be comfortable in their work place? How does wearing sweats change how you work (unless you’re just lazy by default) or impact your work ethic?
100%! Even as a stay at home mom and I always get more done on the days where I get fully dressed instead of wearing "lounge around the house" clothes.
It should not. It means u r driven by external psychological stimuli like wearing bunch of clothes to FEEL productive. U r not allowed to express crestivity or be ur own version. U r forced to wear the same and look the same like everyone else.
I respected coworkers all the time. It's why I always made sure my corset was properly tied and that when it was my time to play Amazon, my chainmail top was shined. Respect gets shown in actions not what you are wearing (were the examples snarky? Sure, but also real, worked at events as a strolling actor.) at the end of the day. I've met a lot of jerks in $5,000 suits. Far more people dressed unusually have been kind, hard working and respectful. (Granted, half the time I was open carrying a non-costume built sword, so maybe we just all need to pass out longswords and bows to keep people behaving respectfully in the workspace?)
As a Gen Z, I absolutely agree with you on this. It is also a matter of following a certain dress code, that certain businesses have to follow in a formal environment. I myself love to be well-dressed in a business environment.
@@shehanchanuka15 You writing style and spelling accumen tell me that you don't understand the social situation of office work. You may think that how you dress does not matter but watch the better dressed coworkers get the performance bonuses and promotions ahead of you. Then you will start to understand.
I refuse to make people think I want to be approached in public when I go to Walmart. pj's it is. I'm also not putting full clothing on my kids to go grab something from the store real quick. I use that energy for better things
@@IAmTheGlovenorSolid color jeans without holes are acceptable for "business casual" Jeans with holes, overly faded, bleached or otherwise not solid in color are considered "casual wear" and not acceptable in many professional businesses. Most start up companies do not fit this mold.
It should not. It means u r driven by external psychological stimuli like wearing bunch of clothes to FEEL productive. U r not allowed to express crestivity or be ur own version. U r forced to wear the same and look the same like everyone else.
@@shehanchanuka15 They didn't say dress all alike like twins, but not to look like an unwashed bum when you show up for work. Express your creativity in your pottery class, not on the job. Have some respect, something that is SORELY lacking in the zeds.
Gotta disagree with Brett here. It’s about looking the part for co-workers, clients that come to the office, business partners, and more; being able to represent the business; contributing to a office and professional mindset; ensuring nobody wears anything inappropriate; and more. Also there is tradition. For a conservative that appreciates traditional values, I’m shocked this is lost on her.
I don't think Brett is advocating for no dress code whatsoever. Of course businesses need a dress code but that doesn't mean employees should have to be physically uncomfortable wearing formal fancy dress clothes.
When I take the time to put myself together on the outside, I feel more put together on the inside. People feel that and naturally gravitate towards put-together people. No, a suit is NOT going to fix a crappy personality.
I very much disagree, i have had much more pleasant experiences with people that have scragly beards and have patches on their clothes than with people who are groomed and in suits, to the point where i tend to avoid people on suits like the plague.
You’re not “dressing up”, it isn’t playtime. If you’re looking sharp, you’re feeling an acting sharp too. This is just one more downside to the WFH culture. Would you want your lawyer defending you in court wearing a T-shirt and shorts?
Lawyers, and politicians for that fact, will work it down to the color of the tie. Blue is trustworthy, red is powerful, etc. My BIL is in hospitality and what I found interesting was that their “uniform” in sales was based on their location and the type of clients they most often served. At Chicago, completely conservative, dark suit, white shirt (absolutely no colors), while Tahoe was a hotel branded polo and slacks. One was more business oriented and the other more resort.
Forget the clothes. My Gen Z worker had a meltdown because I moved her favourite colleague to another section (fyi she asked to go on another section.) But I got the arguments/accusations/whining & harassment for daring to move her. Gen Z, Work Is Not A Time For You To Socialise With Your Buddies!!
Okay but it doesn’t excuse the fact that it makes gen z look lazy when they go to school in sweatpants. I’m Gen Z and I show up in nice jeans and a nice flannel to school. Dress for success.
Yeah I wear a button-down and nice pants to school. Sometimes it feels like I'm overdressed, but I keep it up because it makes me feel way more productive.
@@thisguy2973 I never said they were lazy, I said they look lazy, creating that perception. Some people who do dress like that that I know, are some of the smartest people I ever met, but you should always strive for professionalism.
Professionalism says..... I'm not Lazy! I care about myself enough to get my ass out of bed and dress nice enough to tell a customer I care about my appearance!
This isn't about looking nice for the customers though, this is about sitting in a room full of other employees with no customers. Dressing up to impress customers is one thing and to an extent I agree with you, but this specific short video is not about the problem you are talking about.
@@trinityhall9707 a job someone cares about should require someone who can at least take the effort to dress for. Whether customers or not. Looking presentable means a lot more than just for the customers. It’s an attitude towards work. if someone came in their pajamas everyday to work it probably shows they are not very serious or productive and probably won’t get much done. Most supervisors or bosses never made it to their position by dressing poorly
@@josephmacy8327 I never said you should come to work in pajamas, I didn't even give an actual opinion on the video itself. I simply said that the original commenter was bringing up a completely different problem. You are also bringing up a different problem. I do not think that you should go to work in your pajamas, whether you are around only coworkers or if you are working with employees, unless it is your job to wear pajamas at work it should not be allowed. No one in their right mind should think people should be allowed to work in their pajamas unless under specific situations where you work at home. But again this isn't about working at home, it's about leaving your home and being out in public. You can look nice without wearing a full suit. My personal opinion is that more people would be happier at their jobs if they could wear casual clothes. And I do not want casual clothes to be confused with crop tops and shorts but with the more professional side of casual clothes. You can wear a good-looking pair of jeans and a good-looking shirt and still look professional.
Yeah, while I would be more enthusiastic to work in with a casual dress code, I don't know if it is office appropriate for some of us to be wearing shorts, others pants, various types of tops. Rules are definitely there for a reason. Will take business casual over formal any day
@@krismine99 I only see a point if you're meeting with different clients occasionally. But if you're sitting in front of a computer all day and socializing with the same coworkers there is no point in having a strict dress code
Except that it costs more, and if I have to sit in traffic for hours before work, my nicely pressed clothes will not make it, and it’ll be pointed out more that I’m “sloppy”. Seriously, if I had to revert back to wearing business wear, I’d find another job.
@@thisguy2973 Cry more. 95% of blue collar workers are in clean, branded, UNIFORMS. You children piss your pants because you have to wear a shirt with buttons on it.
I thought 2020, Covid, and the rise of working at home proved the point of why we “dressed-up” to go to work, it is to physically get us in the mental state of working.
Business casual dress is not a pantsuit that’s business formal dress. This was to make sure that there was a mindset of professionalism that was not only shown through behavior, but also reinforced through dress. It’s hard to be childish or unprofessional when you’re dressed like an adult professional.
That was my thought too. I always heard of business casual as a button up shirt and khakis or a skirt. Not a suit. And I think society is getting far too casual. Companies are doing away with dress codes, even with customer service employees, and it's not a good look. I remember my first job as a bagger at a grocery store (in 1998) and we had to wear black pants and a white button up shirt. No visible tattoos were allowed, no piercings besides the ears, no wild makeup, only natural colored hair... now I go to Walgreens and find a dude with Mimi from The Drew Carey Show makeup wearing a miniskirt and a corset top. No joke.
It's less humiliating then actually having a uniform. But it serves a similar purpose, I'd guess - a basic identity and removing miscalculations. With school uniforms part of the rationale is that without a code, people will visibly paint themselves as apart. But if your lowest level employees and your highest level are wearing version of the same thing, then it easier to have a group identity, I'd guess. These people should just be glad they don't have to work for the IBM of the 1930s - which apparently had a corporate songbook.
@@bucketofsunshine6366I am only 23, and agree. I understand modesty, decency, class, and professionalism, I uphold them in my daily life. sadly, people around my age and even older, are no longer upholding these values.. it’s embarrassing.
I was totally thinking of the professionalism. Im not ready to part with looking professional at work 🤷♂️. I think it does more good than harm, helps people stay focused. Its also a way to show respect, to your coworkers to the job youre doin about your own self.. of course not all jobs take the same level, but... i miss when MOST people knew whats appropriate when
If you’re not willing to get properly dressed, why should they trust you’re willing to put out the effort to do your job? When you’re dressed well, you feel better. It represents the business well. We don’t need to rationalize laziness.
I mean, you vote for people in suits that kill people everyday and make bad policies. But we should just trust they’re doing the right thing because they’re wearing a suit and tie? The mafia dresses up, for god’s sake.
I should be trusted because im competent, not because of the particular set of patterned fabric i choose to cover my body with, ill dress well when going out with my family and friends and when its a special ocasion, not because of a stuid dresscode.
I find I’m different, more professional, more focused when I’m ‘done up’. For me, it’s the button up shirt. Something about that action in the morning helps me be ‘engineer’ instead of ‘dad’
It should not. It means u r driven by external psychological stimuli like wearing bunch of clothes to FEEL productive. U r not allowed to express crestivity or be ur own version. U r forced to wear the same and look the same like everyone else.
@@shehanchanuka15 Whether it should or it shouldn't isn't for you to say. That's how it works across the board regardless of what you think. And it's not only about "feel", it's also about looking professional and put together. And there's a time and place to look a certain way, and within those certain ways, you still have plenty of styles to choose from to look presentable. Even if you're a doctor who wears a lab coat, what matters is that you're the one doing your job, not your clothes. If you want to be creative externally, do that elsewhere and at your own time.
No way. You are wrong on this one. Standards must be set or you will end up with nasty looking outfits or scandalous attire causing issues. Plus if I see another department looking like they all rolled out of bed a second ago I can safely guess that there will be poor attention to detail and no prompt responses.
There is nothing wrong with setting standards and having a dress code. But employees shouldn't be forced to wear uncomfortable dress clothes. Especially when working 8+ hour shifts.
Or it could be that employers dont what people dressed immodestly or increased false accusations when people dress poorly. Or it could be a military tactic that people use to show thay are on the same page. Wearing a uniform is ok.
They dont get the science behind it. Because gen z thinks they know it all because they can "google" everything😂😂😂 uniform or business casual creates the idea, you are there to serve and work. Honestly, i worked in an intl bank. They changed fr business casual to casual. It degraded the value of the company. It looks so prestigious seeing men wearing tie or "barong" going to the office and women dress up so well. Even if they changed it, some of us still wears biz casual. Dress for.success
@@spybreak23 it s a studied and documentaded fact , this generation think it has invented the air we breath , would you trust a mechanic who would be showing up with clean hands in a 3 pieces suit
This was a complaint with some teachers and now many don't dress up anymore. When i worked in the school district i always dressed up. It makes you feel good and look forward to the day and your students enjoyed a change from their peers styles. I had kids spproach me all the time inspired to put more effort into their appearance and i was taken more seriously
@@samanthaarmstrong4722 exactly! Thank you! I was a TA on paper but did everything a teacher did. Even when I worked as a Para in a temp agency I was mindful to dress professionally especially since im 5'2" and look young for my age. The only time I wasn't super professional in attire was when I was an after school tutor.
I was a high school teacher and am on the petite side. I taught science and had a limited wardrobe so if I was doing something messy (dissections, staining, reactions) jeans and a tshirt with my lab coat over were the norm, otherwise business casual. My biggest concern was actually being dressed appropriately so as to not be a distraction to myself (fidgeting with clothes) or my students (weave all seen teachers who look like they are for the streets). Would not wear leggings for either reason.
Both of my parents were teachers and both dressed up a bit. Dad wore dress casual pants, a dress shirt and tie. When he retired he threw the ties away and never wore another. My mom wore dresses or pant suits, and costume jewelry matching the holidays and seasons for the children.
@@thisguy2973 Private businesses have a right to make dress codes. If you don't like the dress code, don't work there. There's a difference between company policies and laws set by governments.
Maybe it’s a British thing, but I never regret wearing a suit. If it’s a more casual office just roll up your shirt sleeves and take your tie off. Takes all the guesswork out of dress codes. 3 suits (each with 2 pairs of pants), 5 shirts and 10 or so ties and you’re pretty much covered for the next decade.
It's not about clients, it's mostly for 2 main reasons: 1. Uniformity. Like the military has an outfit, we all are meant to feel equal, and an outfit does that surprisingly well. 2. Not looking sexy. That's the most important one. I mean, we all know that one woman who wears either the shortest mini skirt ever to catch the attention of every guy there, or the woman who wears a dress that is meant for a gala to attract attention. Plus, not everyone spends that much on clothing, either because of money, because they don't want to, or they can't. (Bonus) 3. Professionalism. A lawyer can't go into a court with a pink pleated skirt and a top showing off mid riff with pony tails... and for the male version, he can't walk in with shorts showing off his legs and go in topless or with a skintight shirt to show off his biceps or abs... it's disrespectful in a place of professionalism. I'd be fine with having a code that decides that everyone needs to stick to a certain amounts of colors, or like high school level guidelines on how short a skirt can be, or how tight a shirt can be for a dude, etc. But I'd personally just want everyone to dress professionally with a suit and not be treated like a child. And to anyone who wants to say "men just shouldn't look" or "women don't care what men wear" or "it's old fashioned to think people judge you on a first impression" just grow up. Be honest, that's all just LIES. Plus, just imagine the amount of sexual harassment allegations in a gen Z workplace with EVERYONE wearing the exact same outfit... now compare it to everyone being able to wear whatever they want to.
It's call a work uniform!!!! It distinguishes those that are at work from those that are not! Simple stuff.. Also haven't you ever heard of dressing a level up.. it is a way to get the mind to think in higher ways.. or in a way that makes your body perform as if you where the better person.... People act and work differently based upon how they are dressed...doh!
It should not. It means u r driven by external psychological stimuli like wearing bunch of clothes to FEEL productive. U r not allowed to express crestivity or be ur own version. U r forced to wear the same and look the same like everyone else.
It’s about showing how much you want the job. You can lie about anything you want when asked a question, but when you first walk in well presented, it shows the people hiring you that you actually want to be there.
The problem is it's gone to the other extreme. I don't want to work in a place where people wear sweatpants and look like they just crawled out of bed.
Just wait until we have to start accepting nudists in the workplace. The point is always to tear down society, not improve it. But if you can gain the necessary level of indifference, it is hilarious to watch.
It should not. It means u r driven by external psychological stimuli like wearing bunch of clothes to FEEL productive. U r not allowed to express crestivity or be ur own version. U r forced to wear the same and look the same like everyone else.
Because it stems from a "uniform" , and we rebelled so violently about that it can't exist anymore. Draw the line? Are boxers and booty shorts acceptable , no? Why not...what is ... where to draw the line. Bussiness casual has no mottos or offensive slogans that result in HR headaches. But because everyone is so freaking entitled they can't be responsible without guidance.
As a Gen Zer, I think business casual is a good thing. Gotta keep a certain standard and level of professionalism. I don't want anybody walking around my office in a tank top
Jordan Peterson has a lot to say about this. Gen Z is definitely wrong on this one. They're just children that don't understand the necessity for a dress code or decorum.
It should not. It means u r driven by external psychological stimuli like wearing bunch of clothes to FEEL productive. U r not allowed to express crestivity or be ur own version. U r forced to wear the same and look the same like everyone else.
@@shehanchanuka15 The primary function of work isn't to express creativity. Dress code eliminates the distraction of improper dress by imposing a standard. Schools have them, businesses have them, and gyms should have them. If you need proof dress code is necessary just look at all the women that create drama by dressing in their underwear and recording guys staring at them in the gym.
@shehanchanuka15 Regardless of what SHOULD be the case, the fact is that humans DO have subconscious psychological responses to what they see. It is natural to want to be judged only by your internal character, but it is equally natural to not be a mind reader. If you present yourself as sloppy looking, they will assume that you ARE sloppy. A big part of growing up for Gen Z and Millennials is learning just how badly our parents and influences misled us by saying that these fundamental aspects of our psychology were irrelevant. The ones who ignored mom's feel-good Disney advice are out there CRUSHING IT. Yes, it would be better if we judged people by character only. But no one does. No one. Look on the outside the way you want people to feel about who you are inside.
@shehanchanuka15 You are wrong about this. If you feel the desire to express yourself creatively at work by dressing in whatever the heck you feel like wearing, then you need to find a profession where that is acceptable, like working in a tattoo shop.
I do remember my first job interview at 38 yrs old after being a stay at home mom, and I was dressed more formally than anyone I saw. I ended up working for that agency. One of the draws was business casual.
I like dressing up. I worked at a job that had a pretty lax business casual dress code and I went to work every day in a full suit and tie. I just liked it. I wish men in suits and women in dresses would make a huge comeback tbh.
Its a statement of participation in a set of social norms surrounding how to operate in a work setting. If you don't understand that you likely are not following those norms anyways.
I like dressing to the occasion. I feel better when im wearing something nice. It really helps to put me in the right headspace. As my father said, "The clothes maketh the man."
As a wise wrestler once said, "it's all a mindset!" I put on a suit and go to a room in my house that I specifically use for work because it mentally reinforces what I'm using that segment of time for. When I don't do this I'm more likely to get distracted by dishes or chores or anything else.
My mom and I work at a small law office. The only time the principal lawyer dresses us is when he’s meeting face-to-face with a client, otherwise he’s in jeans and a t-shirt
I used to work as a corporate trainer for a dental office. I hate boring clothes and often wear bright colors and fun patterns. My manager printed out a page of stock photos with women in the most frumpy outfits and asked me to pick one to emulate. I laughed and kept wearing all my cute dresses (which were totally work place appropriate), knowing full well that managerial position had a super high turnover rate and that she’d be gone soon anyway. Now I’m a sahm and the biggest element that determines how I dress is whether I can easily nurse a baby in it.
You do need to understand though that it’s not about you. You don’t want your clothing to distract from your message. With all of the educational research, there are numerous studies that point out that only children respond positively to bright colors. Most adults find it overstimulating, especially those who are neurodivergent and might already have difficulty focusing for that long. Maybe teach kindergarten rather than training adults, especially with the snarky tone you have dripping in your comment.
@@TheBaumcm sure, it’s not about me but it’s not about anybody ultimately. I don’t need to consider the so-called neurodivergency of anybody when I get dressed. If the way I dress is “overstimulating” for someone else, they can learn coping skills to ignore it but putting the onus on everybody to cater to the autists is absurd. I already stated that my clothing was workplace appropriate. The owner of the company often commented how much he liked my style (this coming from a man in his 70s who would spend tens of thousands of dollars on custom suits). It was only this one single manager (a frumpy and overweight woman) who took issue with it. And uh hey, you’re the one with a snarky attitude 😆
I asked my hiring manager if I could appear in casual or does it have to be business casual or formal. I came in casual and got the job. He was 25 and is now the district manager.
I've seen several cases online, where business didn't require "dressing up" they had women dress in such relieving outfits the businesses had to intervene. All those cases led to lawsuits. SO, from a business point of view it's ALSO a great way to avoid that whole problem.
I worked in a call center and we never once saw a customer. We just answered the phones for AT&T. We had to wear business casual as well. It was so silly.
My company got rid of “business casual” dress requirement a couple years back and let me tell you… everyone is happier and more productive. It’s amazing how simple some things are. Happy workers = good workers
Take pride in your looks, specially at work. It speaks volumes on your self esteem, self care, your mental health, and the perception you have about clients (even if you never meet them). It means you deem clients important enough to be the reason you present yourself at your best to meet their needs.
I am 71 & recently retired. I went to work in sweat pants, nice pullover shirt with a collar, and regular shoes. My boss wore jeans, button shirt, and tennis shoes. Oh, I did not interact with clients, nobody in our building did.
The reason isn't just in case a client walks in. It's a mental thing about giving a hoot. It shows you put in that little bit of effort. It also creates unity, as you're all in the same boat, no different from wearing a uniform.
My Papa would dress up everyday. He would get up and put on a pair of jeans and a flannel shirt tucked in - just to sit in his recliner and watch old black and white westerns. I knew my Papa for over 24 years and I’ve never once seen him wear anything else. I don’t even know if he owned pajamas.
I was working on a lvl 1 service desk. We had to wear business casual and leadership started to push for full suit and tie. And the reasoning was exactly what she said: Sometimes (like once a year) customers come to visit so we have to be ready. You were sitting in an office for 12 hours a day with no AC... In a full freakin suit. In my next job luckily the sentiment was only front office workers have to wear business casual. They represent the company. Back office workers wore whatever they wanted.
@@TheBaumcm I dont live in the US. Here the law states the office in the summer has to be between 21-24 C but doesnt really specify how to measure it. So the company measures it in the management office with AC :D Service desk room was around 28-29, especially when the sun was shining through the huge windows.
My favorite job interview was the one where I went in a suit and tie while the people interviewing me had on tennis shoes and sweatpants. Really sold me on that one.
I'm retired now. Over the last 40 years, I have seen the decline of how people dress and act at work. Like it or not, these two things are directly related. We went from wearing slacks, shirt and tie to business casual on Fridays, to business casual every day (and consequently more casual Fridays, e.g., jeans), to jeans every day and eventually to sweatpants, torn jeans, and tee shirts with large (sometimes offensive) logos becoming acceptable. Along with that came a decline of mutual respect and work ethics, and the mocking of those who dare to hold themselves to a bit of a higher standard. I'm glad I'm outta there now, but I worry about the incoming generation of the workforce
Manners is what holds a society together. At bottom, propriety is concern for other people. When that goes out the window, the gates of hell are shortly opened and ignorance is King - Jane Austen
Exactly why I’m going into construction management. I basically get to wear what I want to work(jeans, hoodies, hats, and work boots). Dressing up does make us behave different, but I think it’s also important to find the balance between your style and work casual, that way you’re not a mindless robot.
I loved having my suit on at work, now working at home and hate having my home clothes on me. Even when I'm alone, I sometimes put on my suit and look at myself, it makes me look great, and it feels great.
Tells you how times have changed. Many years ago I applied for a job at a hospital....and got the job. Years later my boss was retiring and we were reminiscing about our time together. She told me that one of the reasons she hired me was the fact that I was one of the few who showed up for the interview wearing a suit.....it got me in the door.
It’s one of those “this is why we can’t have nice things” moments. If we all could dress up however we wanted to work someone would ruin it for everyone and most companies don’t want the headache.
It's about respect to yourself and those around you. Same applies to those walking your dog or going to the shops, take care of your appearance and dress up!
I wear a pair of slacks and a nice shirt in my little cubical. I get more respect from my clients that way. And when I am out in public in my jeans and a tank or regular t-shirt. They don't even recognize me. Love it.
I am so glad to work at a place is that is mostly virtual. The company gives us a wide selection of company shirts so we have different colors and styles throughout the week, and I rock jeans and sneakers every day. It’s incredible
Your clothes do have an effect on your behavior, whether you believe it or not.
There is quite a bit of wiggle room between business causal and pisstained sweatpants with a wifebeater on top.
Exactly
@@Debilinside ppl thought that when they stopped getting dressed up for a flight, now I have some dirtbag in sweats, open toe sandals, a dirty T that takes off his sandals in the plane bc he wants to be comfortable... complacency sets in real quick
Some People make up soo many excuses to show up looking like anything .
Do you have experimental studies that show it?
Its a phyc thing. Heavily studied. If people look casual, they act casual. If they look professional, they act professional. and people treat you different based on how you look. For example the office i work in is pretty chill for most offices, but I still wear dress shirts and pressed jeans every day (Alberta business casual). Yet because of the way I dress and walk, even the more senior people treat me like an authority, resulting in me having more power and influence than my title would suggest.
Exactly
Definitely. I got a promotion years ago at an old company. Office / Corporate but pretty casual. Upper management dressed business casual for the most part. The VP explicitly told me she took note of me presenting well consistently when she interviewed me for her department. That confidence she said she knew would translate to clients. I kept to button downs, dress slacks and business dresses in the office always and a lot of coworkers wore jeans and leggings. I think it's unprofessional to be too relaxed at work even if I would rather be dressed down for comfort. I work from home now and make a point to dress up a little during the week to keep my mindset in the office during the workday. Also helps for those surprise video calls.
@@DigitalSorceress Agreed, it does help keep focus. I see it kinda like a uniform. As long as i wear this shirt, it is go time. Take it off at home, then relax.
Yes! Your appearance does affect the way people react to you.
@millierader2517 everytime I try to tell this to you know who I get called racist....
MatPatt? In a Brett video?!
he has become a meme/reference now that he retired.
Matpat?? Whatchu talking about br💀
Rip mat😢
@@HungerGames_PJO The guy at the end? MatPatt? The most popular guy from The Game/Film/Food/Style Theorist channels?
@@HungerGames_PJO the theorist prime has retired and passed the torch to the new generation. he is going to be around ocacionally but not involved in the process anymore.
Respectfully, that’s wrong. Presentation and dress matters.
Exactly
It should not. It means u r driven by external psychological stimuli like wearing bunch of clothes to FEEL productive. U r not allowed to express crestivity or be ur own version. U r forced to wear the same and look the same like everyone else.
@@shehanchanuka15The workplace is not a venue for self expression. Having some standards-as arbitrary as they may appear-makes a huge difference. You don’t have to take everything too seriously, but your job/career is exempt from that mindset. Otherwise don’t wonder why you don’t get the upward movement you feel so entitled to in your field. Work ethic is essentially arcane at this point.
@@kaitlanparks8061 why shouldn't it be though?? why are you letting these random sets of "morals" govern your being?
To sit in a cubicle? Nah. Ur goofy
As someone who works from home and needs to be dressed from the neck up. It's a mental thing. It gets you in the mindset of getting things done. If your school had uniforms this was drilled into you without you knowing about it.
If you feel like shit, try a different outfit. It sounds superficial but it's a legit thing
FACTS it makes you more productive and there is no reason you need to be in depressing sweatpants at work. You're supposed to be professional in your profession
@@1libra.but why make it so you can’t wear them at all? Don’t you want your employees to be comfortable in their work place? How does wearing sweats change how you work (unless you’re just lazy by default) or impact your work ethic?
True! Brushing your teeth, brushing your hair, wearing a fresh set of clothes all give an energy boost to get things going and not being lazy
I work better when I have less things to worry about, like whether my shirt is properly ironed. Sounds like some shit a coke head thought up.
100%! Even as a stay at home mom and I always get more done on the days where I get fully dressed instead of wearing "lounge around the house" clothes.
This is the first time I'm disagreeing with her. Showing up at work looking presentable shows how you respect the people and your job.
It should not. It means u r driven by external psychological stimuli like wearing bunch of clothes to FEEL productive. U r not allowed to express crestivity or be ur own version. U r forced to wear the same and look the same like everyone else.
You don't have to be all gussied up and dressy to look presentable. There is a difference between professional and presentable.
I respected coworkers all the time. It's why I always made sure my corset was properly tied and that when it was my time to play Amazon, my chainmail top was shined. Respect gets shown in actions not what you are wearing (were the examples snarky? Sure, but also real, worked at events as a strolling actor.) at the end of the day. I've met a lot of jerks in $5,000 suits. Far more people dressed unusually have been kind, hard working and respectful. (Granted, half the time I was open carrying a non-costume built sword, so maybe we just all need to pass out longswords and bows to keep people behaving respectfully in the workspace?)
As a Gen Z, I absolutely agree with you on this. It is also a matter of following a certain dress code, that certain businesses have to follow in a formal environment. I myself love to be well-dressed in a business environment.
@@shehanchanuka15
You writing style and spelling accumen tell me that you don't understand the social situation of office work. You may think that how you dress does not matter but watch the better dressed coworkers get the performance bonuses and promotions ahead of you. Then you will start to understand.
It's called being presentable. We live in a generation that goes shopping in PJs and house shoes.
Pj's started out as daywear
Are you trying to say jeans aren't presentable?
Why would I dress up to pick up groceries? You don’t have to look good for the cashier, Kevin.
I refuse to make people think I want to be approached in public when I go to Walmart. pj's it is. I'm also not putting full clothing on my kids to go grab something from the store real quick. I use that energy for better things
@@IAmTheGlovenorSolid color jeans without holes are acceptable for "business casual" Jeans with holes, overly faded, bleached or otherwise not solid in color are considered "casual wear" and not acceptable in many professional businesses.
Most start up companies do not fit this mold.
It’s been proven that when you look good, you feel good. When you feel good, you’re confident, and your work performance can be better.
It should not. It means u r driven by external psychological stimuli like wearing bunch of clothes to FEEL productive. U r not allowed to express crestivity or be ur own version. U r forced to wear the same and look the same like everyone else.
@@shehanchanuka15 They didn't say dress all alike like twins, but not to look like an unwashed bum when you show up for work. Express your creativity in your pottery class, not on the job. Have some respect, something that is SORELY lacking in the zeds.
Gotta disagree with Brett here. It’s about looking the part for co-workers, clients that come to the office, business partners, and more; being able to represent the business; contributing to a office and professional mindset; ensuring nobody wears anything inappropriate; and more.
Also there is tradition. For a conservative that appreciates traditional values, I’m shocked this is lost on her.
I don't think Brett is advocating for no dress code whatsoever. Of course businesses need a dress code but that doesn't mean employees should have to be physically uncomfortable wearing formal fancy dress clothes.
Exactly
@@LenaRay-yt8rf the video was about business casual, not black tie
Dressing up is not a conservative value. Plenty of libs wear suits too. Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, etc.
@@Aaron-McDonald my point still applies. Business casual is still dressy and uncomfortable.
When I take the time to put myself together on the outside, I feel more put together on the inside. People feel that and naturally gravitate towards put-together people. No, a suit is NOT going to fix a crappy personality.
Exactly
Totally agree with you. I'd also argue that a suit will actually accentuate a crappy personality.
I very much disagree, i have had much more pleasant experiences with people that have scragly beards and have patches on their clothes than with people who are groomed and in suits, to the point where i tend to avoid people on suits like the plague.
And you wonder why they don't have a job
Exactly
You’re not “dressing up”, it isn’t playtime. If you’re looking sharp, you’re feeling an acting sharp too. This is just one more downside to the WFH culture.
Would you want your lawyer defending you in court wearing a T-shirt and shorts?
Exactly
My lawyer’s attire isn’t my daily life concern.
@@thisguy2973the point applies to everyone.
Lawyers, and politicians for that fact, will work it down to the color of the tie. Blue is trustworthy, red is powerful, etc. My BIL is in hospitality and what I found interesting was that their “uniform” in sales was based on their location and the type of clients they most often served. At Chicago, completely conservative, dark suit, white shirt (absolutely no colors), while Tahoe was a hotel branded polo and slacks. One was more business oriented and the other more resort.
Dressing up is my casual.
Forget the clothes.
My Gen Z worker had a meltdown because I moved her favourite colleague to another section (fyi she asked to go on another section.)
But I got the arguments/accusations/whining & harassment for daring to move her.
Gen Z, Work Is Not A Time For You To Socialise With Your Buddies!!
Exactly
As a gen z, this is facts
Alot of companies push being social though so not entirely true
Okay but it doesn’t excuse the fact that it makes gen z look lazy when they go to school in sweatpants. I’m Gen Z and I show up in nice jeans and a nice flannel to school. Dress for success.
Exactly
Yeah I wear a button-down and nice pants to school. Sometimes it feels like I'm overdressed, but I keep it up because it makes me feel way more productive.
Say what you will, but those “lazy” people developed the software you use for daily life.
@@thisguy2973 I never said they were lazy, I said they look lazy, creating that perception. Some people who do dress like that that I know, are some of the smartest people I ever met, but you should always strive for professionalism.
@@thisguy2973 You think GenZ developed all the software we use? And you think they did it in their sweatpants? You're joking, right?
Professionalism says..... I'm not Lazy! I care about myself enough to get my ass out of bed and dress nice enough to tell a customer I care about my appearance!
Too bad Gen Z is throwing that out of the window to wear strange clothes
This isn't about looking nice for the customers though, this is about sitting in a room full of other employees with no customers. Dressing up to impress customers is one thing and to an extent I agree with you, but this specific short video is not about the problem you are talking about.
@@trinityhall9707 a job someone cares about should require someone who can at least take the effort to dress for. Whether customers or not. Looking presentable means a lot more than just for the customers. It’s an attitude towards work. if someone came in their pajamas everyday to work it probably shows they are not very serious or productive and probably won’t get much done. Most supervisors or bosses never made it to their position by dressing poorly
You're right it's all about the illusion
@@josephmacy8327 I never said you should come to work in pajamas, I didn't even give an actual opinion on the video itself. I simply said that the original commenter was bringing up a completely different problem. You are also bringing up a different problem. I do not think that you should go to work in your pajamas, whether you are around only coworkers or if you are working with employees, unless it is your job to wear pajamas at work it should not be allowed. No one in their right mind should think people should be allowed to work in their pajamas unless under specific situations where you work at home. But again this isn't about working at home, it's about leaving your home and being out in public. You can look nice without wearing a full suit. My personal opinion is that more people would be happier at their jobs if they could wear casual clothes. And I do not want casual clothes to be confused with crop tops and shorts but with the more professional side of casual clothes. You can wear a good-looking pair of jeans and a good-looking shirt and still look professional.
Appearance matters, specially in a work environment. It’s really not that hard to dress professionally.
She's not arguing it's hard. She's arguing there's no point, that maybe it doesn't or shouldn't matter that much.
Yeah, while I would be more enthusiastic to work in with a casual dress code, I don't know if it is office appropriate for some of us to be wearing shorts, others pants, various types of tops. Rules are definitely there for a reason. Will take business casual over formal any day
@@krismine99 I only see a point if you're meeting with different clients occasionally. But if you're sitting in front of a computer all day and socializing with the same coworkers there is no point in having a strict dress code
Except that it costs more, and if I have to sit in traffic for hours before work, my nicely pressed clothes will not make it, and it’ll be pointed out more that I’m “sloppy”.
Seriously, if I had to revert back to wearing business wear, I’d find another job.
@@thisguy2973
Cry more.
95% of blue collar workers are in clean, branded, UNIFORMS.
You children piss your pants because you have to wear a shirt with buttons on it.
I thought 2020, Covid, and the rise of working at home proved the point of why we “dressed-up” to go to work, it is to physically get us in the mental state of working.
Also it’s a lot more expensive to replace work clothes when you start getting too fat to fit in them.
It did exactly the opposite but ok
Business casual dress is not a pantsuit that’s business formal dress.
This was to make sure that there was a mindset of professionalism that was not only shown through behavior, but also reinforced through dress. It’s hard to be childish or unprofessional when you’re dressed like an adult professional.
That was my thought too. I always heard of business casual as a button up shirt and khakis or a skirt. Not a suit. And I think society is getting far too casual. Companies are doing away with dress codes, even with customer service employees, and it's not a good look. I remember my first job as a bagger at a grocery store (in 1998) and we had to wear black pants and a white button up shirt. No visible tattoos were allowed, no piercings besides the ears, no wild makeup, only natural colored hair... now I go to Walgreens and find a dude with Mimi from The Drew Carey Show makeup wearing a miniskirt and a corset top. No joke.
Ikr, where tf did she get that idea from. She's never dressed up. In her life, just seen hillary & Angela on tv
It's less humiliating then actually having a uniform. But it serves a similar purpose, I'd guess - a basic identity and removing miscalculations. With school uniforms part of the rationale is that without a code, people will visibly paint themselves as apart. But if your lowest level employees and your highest level are wearing version of the same thing, then it easier to have a group identity, I'd guess.
These people should just be glad they don't have to work for the IBM of the 1930s - which apparently had a corporate songbook.
@@bucketofsunshine6366I am only 23, and agree. I understand modesty, decency, class, and professionalism, I uphold them in my daily life. sadly, people around my age and even older, are no longer upholding these values.. it’s embarrassing.
I was totally thinking of the professionalism. Im not ready to part with looking professional at work 🤷♂️.
I think it does more good than harm, helps people stay focused. Its also a way to show respect, to your coworkers to the job youre doin about your own self.. of course not all jobs take the same level, but... i miss when MOST people knew whats appropriate when
If you’re not willing to get properly dressed, why should they trust you’re willing to put out the effort to do your job? When you’re dressed well, you feel better. It represents the business well. We don’t need to rationalize laziness.
Exactly
I mean, you vote for people in suits that kill people everyday and make bad policies. But we should just trust they’re doing the right thing because they’re wearing a suit and tie? The mafia dresses up, for god’s sake.
When I'm dressed "well", I feel worse, and want to switch back into shorts/jeans and t-shirt, asap.
I should be trusted because im competent, not because of the particular set of patterned fabric i choose to cover my body with, ill dress well when going out with my family and friends and when its a special ocasion, not because of a stuid dresscode.
I find I’m different, more professional, more focused when I’m ‘done up’. For me, it’s the button up shirt. Something about that action in the morning helps me be ‘engineer’ instead of ‘dad’
It should not. It means u r driven by external psychological stimuli like wearing bunch of clothes to FEEL productive. U r not allowed to express crestivity or be ur own version. U r forced to wear the same and look the same like everyone else.
@@shehanchanuka15 Whether it should or it shouldn't isn't for you to say. That's how it works across the board regardless of what you think. And it's not only about "feel", it's also about looking professional and put together. And there's a time and place to look a certain way, and within those certain ways, you still have plenty of styles to choose from to look presentable. Even if you're a doctor who wears a lab coat, what matters is that you're the one doing your job, not your clothes. If you want to be creative externally, do that elsewhere and at your own time.
No way. You are wrong on this one. Standards must be set or you will end up with nasty looking outfits or scandalous attire causing issues. Plus if I see another department looking like they all rolled out of bed a second ago I can safely guess that there will be poor attention to detail and no prompt responses.
There is nothing wrong with setting standards and having a dress code. But employees shouldn't be forced to wear uncomfortable dress clothes. Especially when working 8+ hour shifts.
The fact MatPat just randomly showed up is wild to me 💀
The idea is if you dress professional you will act professional. That's it. Nothing more. 🕊️
That's a dumb idea
Or it could be that employers dont what people dressed immodestly or increased false accusations when people dress poorly. Or it could be a military tactic that people use to show thay are on the same page. Wearing a uniform is ok.
They dont get the science behind it. Because gen z thinks they know it all because they can "google" everything😂😂😂 uniform or business casual creates the idea, you are there to serve and work. Honestly, i worked in an intl bank. They changed fr business casual to casual. It degraded the value of the company. It looks so prestigious seeing men wearing tie or "barong" going to the office and women dress up so well. Even if they changed it, some of us still wears biz casual. Dress for.success
Right. Bill Clinton got a bloj from Monica Lewinsky professionally. Try again.
@@spybreak23 it s a studied and documentaded fact , this generation think it has invented the air we breath , would you trust a mechanic who would be showing up with clean hands in a 3 pieces suit
This was a complaint with some teachers and now many don't dress up anymore. When i worked in the school district i always dressed up. It makes you feel good and look forward to the day and your students enjoyed a change from their peers styles. I had kids spproach me all the time inspired to put more effort into their appearance and i was taken more seriously
@@samanthaarmstrong4722 exactly! Thank you! I was a TA on paper but did everything a teacher did. Even when I worked as a Para in a temp agency I was mindful to dress professionally especially since im 5'2" and look young for my age. The only time I wasn't super professional in attire was when I was an after school tutor.
I was a high school teacher and am on the petite side. I taught science and had a limited wardrobe so if I was doing something messy (dissections, staining, reactions) jeans and a tshirt with my lab coat over were the norm, otherwise business casual. My biggest concern was actually being dressed appropriately so as to not be a distraction to myself (fidgeting with clothes) or my students (weave all seen teachers who look like they are for the streets). Would not wear leggings for either reason.
Both of my parents were teachers and both dressed up a bit. Dad wore dress casual pants, a dress shirt and tie. When he retired he threw the ties away and never wore another. My mom wore dresses or pant suits, and costume jewelry matching the holidays and seasons for the children.
A uniform is important for a business. Even if no one sees you client side.
Just…no. Please don’t call yourself a libertarian if you believe in totalitarian clothing. That’s supposed to be the democrats’ schtick.
@@thisguy2973 That is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard and everyone who reads it will be dumber for having done so.
@@thisguy2973 Armchair revolutionaries... lmao
@@thisguy2973 Private businesses have a right to make dress codes. If you don't like the dress code, don't work there. There's a difference between company policies and laws set by governments.
Maybe it’s a British thing, but I never regret wearing a suit. If it’s a more casual office just roll up your shirt sleeves and take your tie off. Takes all the guesswork out of dress codes.
3 suits (each with 2 pairs of pants), 5 shirts and 10 or so ties and you’re pretty much covered for the next decade.
What does she expect for people to go in a bathing suit or night suit 🤦♀️ every place has rules and regulations and you need respect them
Exactly
I actually like business casual and formal clothing. I think it has an effect on our work and how we perceive certain work places.
Once again, gen z proving they can't even pretend to be respectful and grown up for a few hours a day.
This woman is that co-worker who wears pajama pants to work everyday until HR has to get involved
Probably or yoga pants lol
I literally watched this in my cubicle while wearing a button-up shirt & slacks.
Preach!
Put your phone away & work, corporate slave! 😂
You’re wearing business casual.
I liked this just for the MatPat cameo 😂
Never did I think MatPat would show up in a Brett video but here we are
It's not about clients, it's mostly for 2 main reasons: 1. Uniformity. Like the military has an outfit, we all are meant to feel equal, and an outfit does that surprisingly well.
2. Not looking sexy. That's the most important one. I mean, we all know that one woman who wears either the shortest mini skirt ever to catch the attention of every guy there, or the woman who wears a dress that is meant for a gala to attract attention. Plus, not everyone spends that much on clothing, either because of money, because they don't want to, or they can't.
(Bonus) 3. Professionalism. A lawyer can't go into a court with a pink pleated skirt and a top showing off mid riff with pony tails... and for the male version, he can't walk in with shorts showing off his legs and go in topless or with a skintight shirt to show off his biceps or abs... it's disrespectful in a place of professionalism.
I'd be fine with having a code that decides that everyone needs to stick to a certain amounts of colors, or like high school level guidelines on how short a skirt can be, or how tight a shirt can be for a dude, etc. But I'd personally just want everyone to dress professionally with a suit and not be treated like a child.
And to anyone who wants to say "men just shouldn't look" or "women don't care what men wear" or "it's old fashioned to think people judge you on a first impression" just grow up. Be honest, that's all just LIES.
Plus, just imagine the amount of sexual harassment allegations in a gen Z workplace with EVERYONE wearing the exact same outfit... now compare it to everyone being able to wear whatever they want to.
It's call a work uniform!!!! It distinguishes those that are at work from those that are not! Simple stuff..
Also haven't you ever heard of dressing a level up.. it is a way to get the mind to think in higher ways.. or in a way that makes your body perform as if you where the better person....
People act and work differently based upon how they are dressed...doh!
Exactly
Appearances matter no matter what you do
Exactly
It should not. It means u r driven by external psychological stimuli like wearing bunch of clothes to FEEL productive. U r not allowed to express crestivity or be ur own version. U r forced to wear the same and look the same like everyone else.
No it doesnt, thats bullshit.
It’s about showing how much you want the job. You can lie about anything you want when asked a question, but when you first walk in well presented, it shows the people hiring you that you actually want to be there.
You know how i show up that i want the job? By doing the job in a productive and efficient way, that dress code thing is bullshit.
Gen z is also pretty unprofessional
True
It’s called being respectful and not wearing inappropriate clothing being professional
Exactly
The problem is it's gone to the other extreme. I don't want to work in a place where people wear sweatpants and look like they just crawled out of bed.
Just wait until we have to start accepting nudists in the workplace. The point is always to tear down society, not improve it. But if you can gain the necessary level of indifference, it is hilarious to watch.
So genZ does not care about professionalism, it's about representing your business at all times while on the clock.
Exactly
It should not. It means u r driven by external psychological stimuli like wearing bunch of clothes to FEEL productive. U r not allowed to express crestivity or be ur own version. U r forced to wear the same and look the same like everyone else.
The uniforms are supposed to create a sense of unity. It doesn't these days, but that's what it was intended for
I was thinking the same thing.
Because it stems from a "uniform" , and we rebelled so violently about that it can't exist anymore. Draw the line? Are boxers and booty shorts acceptable , no? Why not...what is ... where to draw the line. Bussiness casual has no mottos or offensive slogans that result in HR headaches. But because everyone is so freaking entitled they can't be responsible without guidance.
As a Gen Zer, I think business casual is a good thing. Gotta keep a certain standard and level of professionalism. I don't want anybody walking around my office in a tank top
Jordan Peterson has a lot to say about this. Gen Z is definitely wrong on this one. They're just children that don't understand the necessity for a dress code or decorum.
It should not. It means u r driven by external psychological stimuli like wearing bunch of clothes to FEEL productive. U r not allowed to express crestivity or be ur own version. U r forced to wear the same and look the same like everyone else.
@@shehanchanuka15 The primary function of work isn't to express creativity. Dress code eliminates the distraction of improper dress by imposing a standard. Schools have them, businesses have them, and gyms should have them. If you need proof dress code is necessary just look at all the women that create drama by dressing in their underwear and recording guys staring at them in the gym.
@shehanchanuka15 Regardless of what SHOULD be the case, the fact is that humans DO have subconscious psychological responses to what they see. It is natural to want to be judged only by your internal character, but it is equally natural to not be a mind reader. If you present yourself as sloppy looking, they will assume that you ARE sloppy. A big part of growing up for Gen Z and Millennials is learning just how badly our parents and influences misled us by saying that these fundamental aspects of our psychology were irrelevant. The ones who ignored mom's feel-good Disney advice are out there CRUSHING IT.
Yes, it would be better if we judged people by character only. But no one does. No one. Look on the outside the way you want people to feel about who you are inside.
@shehanchanuka15 You are wrong about this. If you feel the desire to express yourself creatively at work by dressing in whatever the heck you feel like wearing, then you need to find a profession where that is acceptable, like working in a tattoo shop.
Yesss love the game theory reference!!!
I’m had a job interview one time and I was the only person that day who wore nice clothes apparently 😂
I do remember my first job interview at 38 yrs old after being a stay at home mom, and I was dressed more formally than anyone I saw. I ended up working for that agency. One of the draws was business casual.
I like dressing up. I worked at a job that had a pretty lax business casual dress code and I went to work every day in a full suit and tie. I just liked it. I wish men in suits and women in dresses would make a huge comeback tbh.
Its a statement of participation in a set of social norms surrounding how to operate in a work setting. If you don't understand that you likely are not following those norms anyways.
Yup
I like dressing to the occasion. I feel better when im wearing something nice. It really helps to put me in the right headspace. As my father said, "The clothes maketh the man."
As a wise wrestler once said, "it's all a mindset!"
I put on a suit and go to a room in my house that I specifically use for work because it mentally reinforces what I'm using that segment of time for. When I don't do this I'm more likely to get distracted by dishes or chores or anything else.
My mom and I work at a small law office. The only time the principal lawyer dresses us is when he’s meeting face-to-face with a client, otherwise he’s in jeans and a t-shirt
Rip Matpat 1986 - 2024
He's not Dead
Business casual keeping you big as hell
Thought I accidentally changed the video when MatPat appeared all of a sudden 😂 him showing up was a nice surprise.
I used to work as a corporate trainer for a dental office. I hate boring clothes and often wear bright colors and fun patterns. My manager printed out a page of stock photos with women in the most frumpy outfits and asked me to pick one to emulate. I laughed and kept wearing all my cute dresses (which were totally work place appropriate), knowing full well that managerial position had a super high turnover rate and that she’d be gone soon anyway.
Now I’m a sahm and the biggest element that determines how I dress is whether I can easily nurse a baby in it.
You do need to understand though that it’s not about you. You don’t want your clothing to distract from your message. With all of the educational research, there are numerous studies that point out that only children respond positively to bright colors. Most adults find it overstimulating, especially those who are neurodivergent and might already have difficulty focusing for that long. Maybe teach kindergarten rather than training adults, especially with the snarky tone you have dripping in your comment.
@@TheBaumcm sure, it’s not about me but it’s not about anybody ultimately. I don’t need to consider the so-called neurodivergency of anybody when I get dressed. If the way I dress is “overstimulating” for someone else, they can learn coping skills to ignore it but putting the onus on everybody to cater to the autists is absurd.
I already stated that my clothing was workplace appropriate. The owner of the company often commented how much he liked my style (this coming from a man in his 70s who would spend tens of thousands of dollars on custom suits).
It was only this one single manager (a frumpy and overweight woman) who took issue with it.
And uh hey, you’re the one with a snarky attitude 😆
I asked my hiring manager if I could appear in casual or does it have to be business casual or formal. I came in casual and got the job. He was 25 and is now the district manager.
not to be that person… but damn im early.
Oracle tried implementing a dress code at my office, we rebelled and now they provide fresh fruit and free fancy coffee daily.
Those 80's/90's style girl suits had shoulder pads like they were office linebackers. 😂
I've seen several cases online, where business didn't require "dressing up" they had women dress in such relieving outfits the businesses had to intervene. All those cases led to lawsuits. SO, from a business point of view it's ALSO a great way to avoid that whole problem.
To sit in our little chairs.. like a shrimp 😂😂😂
I worked in a call center and we never once saw a customer. We just answered the phones for AT&T. We had to wear business casual as well. It was so silly.
My company got rid of “business casual” dress requirement a couple years back and let me tell you… everyone is happier and more productive. It’s amazing how simple some things are. Happy workers = good workers
Why is she soo beautiful ❤, u are really beautiful and soft spoken ❤❤
Absolutely wasn't ready to hear MatPat's voice in a Brett Cooper video 😂
Whoever edits these shorts is incredibly cultured with that Game Theory clip
I love your editors Brett, we've had good ol MatPat and Minecraft cameos in here
Take pride in your looks, specially at work. It speaks volumes on your self esteem, self care, your mental health, and the perception you have about clients (even if you never meet them). It means you deem clients important enough to be the reason you present yourself at your best to meet their needs.
I am 71 & recently retired. I went to work in sweat pants, nice pullover shirt with a collar, and regular shoes. My boss wore jeans, button shirt, and tennis shoes. Oh, I did not interact with clients, nobody in our building did.
The reason isn't just in case a client walks in. It's a mental thing about giving a hoot. It shows you put in that little bit of effort. It also creates unity, as you're all in the same boat, no different from wearing a uniform.
I appreciate the Style Theory reference. I recognized that voice anywhere
Your dress sets the mood. Putting on a tie puts me in a state of mind to work.
Because looking out together makes you feel more put together and subconsciously gives you more confidence
The ominous whisper when she said shoulders💀
My Papa would dress up everyday. He would get up and put on a pair of jeans and a flannel shirt tucked in - just to sit in his recliner and watch old black and white westerns. I knew my Papa for over 24 years and I’ve never once seen him wear anything else. I don’t even know if he owned pajamas.
I was working on a lvl 1 service desk. We had to wear business casual and leadership started to push for full suit and tie. And the reasoning was exactly what she said: Sometimes (like once a year) customers come to visit so we have to be ready. You were sitting in an office for 12 hours a day with no AC... In a full freakin suit.
In my next job luckily the sentiment was only front office workers have to wear business casual. They represent the company. Back office workers wore whatever they wanted.
Better question is why did they not have AC. Sounds like an OSHA complaint.
@@TheBaumcm I dont live in the US. Here the law states the office in the summer has to be between 21-24 C but doesnt really specify how to measure it. So the company measures it in the management office with AC :D Service desk room was around 28-29, especially when the sun was shining through the huge windows.
My favorite job interview was the one where I went in a suit and tie while the people interviewing me had on tennis shoes and sweatpants. Really sold me on that one.
I'm retired now. Over the last 40 years, I have seen the decline of how people dress and act at work. Like it or not, these two things are directly related. We went from wearing slacks, shirt and tie to business casual on Fridays, to business casual every day (and consequently more casual Fridays, e.g., jeans), to jeans every day and eventually to sweatpants, torn jeans, and tee shirts with large (sometimes offensive) logos becoming acceptable. Along with that came a decline of mutual respect and work ethics, and the mocking of those who dare to hold themselves to a bit of a higher standard. I'm glad I'm outta there now, but I worry about the incoming generation of the workforce
Manners is what holds a society together. At bottom, propriety is concern for other people. When that goes out the window, the gates of hell are shortly opened and ignorance is King - Jane Austen
😂 I can’t -bahaha! I mean, her shrimp face is just the best! 👏🏻👏🏻😂😂😂
Not me bent over my desk like a shrimp watching this at work while wearing a nice dress and some bomb ass heels. 😂😂😂
THE MATPAT CLIP! we love you matttttt
Exactly why I’m going into construction management. I basically get to wear what I want to work(jeans, hoodies, hats, and work boots). Dressing up does make us behave different, but I think it’s also important to find the balance between your style and work casual, that way you’re not a mindless robot.
This is a great argument about dressing up for work.
I loved having my suit on at work, now working at home and hate having my home clothes on me. Even when I'm alone, I sometimes put on my suit and look at myself, it makes me look great, and it feels great.
Same with school like I’m literally sitting at a desk all day and like I just wanna be comfy😢😢
Tells you how times have changed. Many years ago I applied for a job at a hospital....and got the job. Years later my boss was retiring and we were reminiscing about our time together. She told me that one of the reasons she hired me was the fact that I was one of the few who showed up for the interview wearing a suit.....it got me in the door.
My mom works from home and still gets dressed up. I all for not dressing up just it does help get you in the right state of mind I feel.
To the editor of this short you did good for adding matpat in thank you for keeping his memories from the year he was hosting the channels
Everything reminds me of matpat 😔
Gonna miss you, dude
The style theory clip was goated
It’s one of those “this is why we can’t have nice things” moments. If we all could dress up however we wanted to work someone would ruin it for everyone and most companies don’t want the headache.
It's about respect to yourself and those around you. Same applies to those walking your dog or going to the shops, take care of your appearance and dress up!
I wear a pair of slacks and a nice shirt in my little cubical. I get more respect from my clients that way. And when I am out in public in my jeans and a tank or regular t-shirt. They don't even recognize me. Love it.
I love the Mattpatt bit in the clip!
I am so glad to work at a place is that is mostly virtual. The company gives us a wide selection of company shirts so we have different colors and styles throughout the week, and I rock jeans and sneakers every day. It’s incredible
Matpat in a Brett cooper video is absolutely diabolical
I love her facial expression after she says bent over the computer like... 😂😂😂
It's called having pride in the way you look, the way you present yourself to the public, even if it's just your co-workers. It's a sign of maturity.