Gifts of The Spirit: With Matt Chandler (2019)
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- Gifts of The Spirit: With Matt Chandler
In this theology podcast, Josh Lewis and Michael Miller interview Matt Chandler from the Village Church. We discuss the charismatic gifts of the Spirit, how they have been practiced and pursued at the Village Church, how we can easily become reckless with the gifts, and how should we receive the gifts of the Spirit. We also talk about the pirate ship controversy, false gifts, and the second blessing theology.
If you would like more information about the Gifts of the Spirit, check out some of our other interviews listed below.
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Josh Lewis' Church Kings Fellowship Church
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Michael Miller's Church Reclamation Church
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So wild seeing a video like this! I have so much honor for these guys.
Thank you so much. this is really encouraging!
False teachers
So true, “seek the giver not the gifts”, remnant radio is my favourite CZcams ministry. God bless you all
Mine too
Excellent! At 15:26 Matt says, "Be men and women of the Book, read it, breathe it, know it, and then walk in the power of the Spirit. For whatever reason, and I think it might be a tactic of the enemy, people just have the hardest time marrying those two things."
I really appreciate to hear others on the balance between the Bible and gifts of the Holy Spirit. This topic has been something that has greatly concerned me about what the truth is in all this and the belief that there is common ground for the church.
We had a lot of fun filming this. I’m glad you liked it. We cover lots of stuff like this on the channel. We do have a playlist dedicated to the spiritual gifts, if you haven’t, go check that out.
@@TheRemnantRadio Thanks! I definitely will! I'm just happy to hear people who acknowledge the work of the Holy Spirit, yet believe that it is to be grounded by and filtered through God's word. It seems like I hear more of one extreme or the next. I have spent the past year earnestly seeking out what God says. Praying first and looking for resources be it podcasts, videos or books to provides some clarity. I have enjoyed listening to people like Dr. Michael Brown and have been reading the book Supernatural by Dr. Michael Heiser. Will definitely enjoy listening to more of your videos. Thank you for providing this type of content.
@@janeanjohnson3875 look for the Convergence Conference on the web. They have their conferences available for everyone to watch. I am super new at being a continuist and those conferences have helped me a lot. Some of the speakers have been: Sam Storms, Jack Deere, Michael Brown, Matt Chandler, etc.
Lord continue to use, expand and bless brother Matt's church for a restoration of the gifts within our more Reformed brothers!
Matt Chandler has been a blessing to me.
Great to hear a Reformed pastor changing beliefs and practises. Great leadership. I wonder if you guys could get someone like Daniel Kolenda on to talk about his practice of spiritual gifts and ministry and theology behind it....as a counter point.
Paul Robinson: sure. If called his ministry a dozen times. I just have no way to get through
@@TheRemnantRadio we (as in those here) could pray it thru
Bro the anticipation 😂😂 listened to pretty much everything brother Chandler has said about this subject
Right there with you! but I asked him questions about "second blessing" I have not heard him speak on that yet.
Pastor James here. Watching the insightful teaching from Nairobi,Kenya
Wow it so true how we first come to Jesus by experience than he reveals in his word who he is what he is doing.
wow wow wow i had no idea chandler was making a shift into continuism and the gifts.. and he speaks of it quite well
he has never taught cessationism in the 15 years i've listened to him, hallelujah!
Please invite David Diga Hernandez. A ministry that I believe is well balanced in the Word and in the Gifts. God bless!
Amazing.
Lots of nuggets for me in this video. May the good Lord keep and bless you all
Darren V. Thank you Daren.
Brother Bill Hamon of Christian International pioneered careful practice of prophetic presbytery years ago. Not that he's the end all, but there's arrogance in any brother who thinks he's needs to reinvent the wheel to get rolling. But good balanced theology is being presented by the Remnant Radio. It's time for the New Reformation. Welcome aboard the Good Ship Gospel to brother Matt. Take some time off the wheelhouse to check out the engine room.
I had no idea Matt Chandler was a continuist believer. I listened to him before I knew about baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Incredible video!!!
Thanks Josh, glad you liked it.
Something to ponder! Something I haven’t heard and would love to hear if anyone would affirm this.....
Love the gifts. On board with how Pastor Matt views the gifts. I’m charismatic and pentecostal. BUT.......why pursue, glorify or even practice the gifts to the point where we put them on pedestal when in FACT they WILL CEASE one day. Right? While they posses (if you will) properties of the eternal. The gifts themselves ARE NOT ETERNAL. But the one who bestows them is Eternal.
Thoughts? Why glorify and almost risk losing sight over the eternal one over something that ISN’T eternal?
Thoughts?
Great question Aaron. The gifts will not be in heaven because the miracle-working power of God is the inbreaking of the kingdom here on earth.
1 Cor 4:20 For the kingdom of God does not consist in talk but in power (dunamis).
Acts 1:8 But you will receive power (dunamis) when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”
Luke 11:20 But if it is by the finger of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
The Luke 11:20 verse helps solidify this idea. For example, people will no longer be possessed in heaven, yet we should pursue their freedom now. This is the wrestling between the "already and not yet" establishing of God's Kingdom.
I hope that helps.
The Remnant Radio Love it. Thank you for that insight. 👏🏻 love what is happening here.
so amazing to see. yay god
I always get excited when I hear of churches that want to go into this area but my litmus test for whether this is a sincere desire to pursue gifts or if it's not a true move of the Spirit would be if this turns into "conferences" or "ministry schools" which costs money.
Bad Association do you feel the Same about seminary?
@@TheRemnantRadio I don't know about that. My concern comes from Acts 8 when Simon the Sorcerer saw the gifts of the Spirit in action:
"Even Simon himself believed and was baptized. He followed Philip closely and was astounded by the great signs and miracles he observed.
When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them. On their arrival, they prayed for them to receive the Holy Spirit. For the Holy Spirit had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. Then Peter and John laid their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.
When Simon saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money. "Give me this power as well,” he said, “so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”
But Peter replied, “May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money! You have no part or share in our ministry, because your heart is not right before God. Repent, therefore, of your wickedness, and pray to the Lord. Perhaps He will forgive you for the intent of your heart. For I see that you are poisoned by bitterness and captive to iniquity.”
Then Simon answered, “Pray to the Lord for me, so that nothing you have said may happen to me.”"
I suppose I would feel the same way about seminary if Christians are paying money to go there for the purpose of receiving a laying on of hands.
Bad Association ahh so you I have no problem with someone being taught about to go to the spirit. You just have a problem someone receiving the Holy Spirit and or the gifts of the Spirit for money. I totally agree that’s like selling salvation. It’s a free gift.
@@TheRemnantRadio Yes. That's always the red flag for me. When it costs money it's unscriptural.
This is so helpful and relevant!
Poor Miller. He barely got a platform to talk. Other than that, great interview. Thanks for the content.
I appreciate this video. Please don’t take this question as snarky because it isn’t meant to be. Why are the encounter nights only in the church? Why do they not take these encounters to places like children’s hospitals?
The Keen Peach I can’t speak for Matt Chandler in the village. But I can speak for my personal context. Which is simply, we do.
Maybe not specifically children’s hospitals. But when we do evangelism we often go to Walgreens or the pharmacy section of Walmart and pray for the sick.
There are some “faith healers“ that teach there must to be an “atmosphere“ of belief present to heal (they would site Mark 6:1-6)
However I would deny this ideology.
Well, that is lovely. Thank you for your response! I really do appreciate it as I navigate this doctrine.
@@j.reesebradley4771 There are some faith healers who claim they can heal 100% of the time with the only exception of this convenient interpretation. That being said not all continuations believe in healings and miracles with such a black and white approach. We have been covering this topic thoroughly with Dr. Wayne Grudem and Dr. Craig Keener.
If you want to understand where we stand on this, the links in the video description may give you a thorough understanding of our beliefs.
That makes sense. It’s easy to forget that there is an in-between and that’s usually where the truth lies. And there definitely are a few crazy apples making the whole tree look nuts. 😂 I will watch those videos! Thank you!
LOVE THIS 💡 IDEA J. Reese Bradley
There's a very good reason it's "hard to marry the scriptures with the gifts of the Spirit." Especially when you " want them to love Calvin... " (At least Matt is for paradox!) Pentecost is a leavened feast. That's in the Book. Friends, not everything is subject to superficial exegetical exercises. You have to understand the typologies. Note: Joel's prophecy was that the Spirit would be poured out on FLESH.
Brothers, never let our theology be reactionary, that is to say based on a correction of something heretical. Always stick to the truth, as light expels all darkness. The Holy Spirit is not the one who needs restraining.
Like..the reformation? Haha
@@cazdl Well if I get you correctly, yes. But reformation ought to be a continual thing. It is the Lord's transformative power that ought to be our goal, in ourselves as individuals and in the Church, as a corporate vessel. The Reformation as a historical phenomenon is something amazing and its fruit worthy of study. That fruit ought to be looked at in our times with every lens of truth we can find. And no doubt we will find some good and some rotten. But as usual the Devil is in the details.
After MLK 50 I have a very difficult time to consider anything M Chandler has to say
Love you guys! May I make a suggestion? In the beginning of this interview, the guest frequently used some metaphors which I think could cause people to lose interest in the show,- simply because they don’t know what he is talking about. Also, I am finding that people, in general, do no know what certain mean, such as: complimentarianism, continuationalist, cessationism. Perhaps it would be helpful to keep things simple or, when a term is used, explain what it means.
love this
what about spiritual warfare and deliverance ministry? i feel the church is also dropping the ball there.
Great discussion boys. Decades ago went through same process. Have operated in most of the gifts. Traveled all over the world watching the Holy Spirit do remarkable signs and wonders to edify His church. My humble opinion, every believer has access to all the gifts as the Holy Spirit gives unction. The only sign gift you can own is tongues. In 1Cor if you look at Paul’s admonition to them he talking about what happens in a church service that can get out of order. “In the church” is stated many times...14:5 so in the church..14:19 but in the church..14:23 so if the whole church meets in one place...14:26.when you assemble 14:28..in the church....14:34 in the churches.... out in the public arena a believer can look for and expect any of the gifts to be available to confirm the Gospel and edify those being ministered to.
I agree on the potential problems that can show up. Seen too many churches split when a pastor gives the Holy Spirt free reign. Every place Jesus showed up the enemy was exposed and dealt with. Should a demonized person be in your service and the Holy Spirit want it dealt with it can be interesting. Faith and practice is necessary but when done with wisdom and knowledge the whole world of the supernatural opens up.
35 years of doing the stuff has cost a lot but worth everything to be used at all even when many come against you. You won’t regret it.
Wow!! Loved your video. Awesome subject learned allot..
Very nice video. Such a good and wise explanation about the gifts.
Great interview guys! Keep up the great work!
Great conversation! I give it an 8. Well, maybe a 7🤫
What was going on in Corinth when Paul was addressing the church. The Temple of Aphrodite, run by women. Therefore is it possible Paul was concerned about the role of women that could be looked in on by the public as similar? Good thing to study. Plus most women in that era did not understand the language being spoken in the service. They sat together apart from the men. Got a little noisy maybe? Therefore be silent? Another good study. Fun stuff
Awesome!
This is great!
Biggest correction here: God *is* the Holy Spirit. You can't invite Him in, He is already there. His gift of holy spirit is inside everyone who believes Romans 10:9, and all believers can do all 9.
Jesus, our example walked in the power of the Spirit! He went about doing good, healing the sick, raising the dead. casting out demons, having words of knowledge etc. If He is living in you and He is the same yesterday, today, and forever, should He not be doing the same as He was in the bible through you? Just saying!!
Every Christian wants wonderful things to happen ,but not at the expense of their own life ,we will leave that to somebody else .Death to self ,the gifts will take care of themselves .No shortcuts ,no substitutes ,no religious works will suffice .Take up your cross Jesus' said ?
All of these approved "prophecies" are focused on individuals by individuals. Conversely New Testament prophesies were about Christ. Pentecostalism is primarily about you as an individual and what Christ wants to do for YOU physically, financially or directionally. The very thing psychics focus on. Their healings go no further than what "healers" who use positive mental imagery do. Matt doesn't know squat about the "gifts". Hey Matt, try reading "The Seduction of Christianity" by Dave Hunt. At one time that shook the pentecostal world. But it's now been forgotten.
Those in Matt. 7:21-23 are all continuationists. Not a cessationist in the bunch.
Which book are they talking about at 11:30
Invite pastor John Lorenzana! I'm serious I think he would love to be on your show! Please message me if you are interested in more information!
I am not sure that I have heard of John. Could you send me a link to some of his content?
How is a guy saying you are a pup by saying you were in 2nd grade approx 8 and I was 14. Unless he was a very mature 14
To start, in order to understand scripture, you must have the Holy Spirit. It is the root of communication Yashua (Jesus) left us as a PROMISE in John to continue to guide, edify and comfort us to ALL truth. With that said, it is ONLY through the Spirit of Truth can we understand scripture. It was impossible for Yashua could have done his work without the Spirit of truth. To say the gifts of the holy Spirit are heretic is deceitful and wrong. The gifts can be summed up as revelation from our Saviour and Creator as promised by Yashua. Acts outlines the dependency the apostles had to guide them to where they should share the Word.
Lol it's not transgeminal, it's trigeminal. My mother in law has this. It's debilitating. Praying for healing for my mother in law; her name is Tina.
I pray your mother in law may receive the healing that Jesus paid for. May the power of the blood of Christ be present in her physical body according to the mercies of our God. Whatever evil has intended, let goodness and grace overcome! In Jesus' holy name.
A reformed Pentecostal. Interesting
Gene Williams matt chandler is not a Pentecostal. But he does believe in the gifts of the spirit.
There's a reformed pentecostal denomination in Brazil lead by a bishop called Walter McAllister. He wrote a book about it, but I guess it's only in Portuguese, even though he is brazilian-canadian.
Sam Storms is a Charismatic Calvinist. Check him out.
If they are not there yet ? ..... So what your saying is that in your words if a person is not ready to get ghosty then they are not far enough along on their walk...... Listen brother scripture says that Christ is the way not the gifts are the way, smarten up.
WeeBee Gold and Silver: I’m sorry you must be misunderstanding.
Jesus Christ has given us his doctrine through his Apostles through the agency of the Spirits work in the infallible and inerrant word of God(the holy Scriptures) in which he commands is to earnestly desire spiritual gifts. Christ Jesus our Lord (the only way) has given the gifts of the Spirit, teaching, evangelism, prophecy and tongues for the building up of the church. This is his way! There are some who are not ready to teaching, not ready to evangelize not ready to prophecy.
To say people shouldn’t teach until there mature would not be offensive to you I’d imagine. Why not make that same claim with the other Gifts God has given?
Hope that clarifies. Blessings
@@TheRemnantRadioif that were how it was intended to mean It would be nice however still incorrect because people are not saved half way, They were instantly filled with the Spirit, not in doses. Yes there is spiritual milk and different stages in learning however Matt was not speaking on this, he was saying that there are people who are given spiritual gifts in higher amounts and there are those who are saved that are not given it so they are not ready and should wait. However it is In Christ alone that we are saved and given salvation and I do see that you are in agreement to this as well so that is a blessing. I think it needs to be clarified..
Baptizing cats 🤣
“Not like the Heidelberg Catechism”
Really? As though the Heidelberg Catechism was just the throw of the dice and what ever we got we got? I’m sorry but that statement truly revealed your bias and ignorance. I’m sure the document on complimentarianism is well thought out and beautiful, assuming it’s biblical. But I assure you all one has to do is read the catechism to know it is well thought out and biblical.
Dear brother, I think you misunderstood me. The Heidelberg Catechism was so beautifully written and so masterfully inspired by God that the delegates all over Europe accepted it the first day it was presented. No one felt the need to change a single article or sentence of an article. The Heidelberg is one of my favorite Catechisms, I read it almost every day.
This document on complementarianism did not have universal acceptance. That I was saying.
The Remnant Radio thank you for the clarification. Now listening to it again I totally did misunderstand you. I appreciate your response, very gracious and loving. God bless you.
Please do your homework on Matt Chandler...from what i have researched and read about him is not good....a big part of the reformed big dogs are linked to cj mahaney...do the homework!!!
Past affiliation does not equal current affirmation of doctrine, morality, or beliefs.
When a person claims to be a continuatioist concerning the sign gifts, that person doesn't know what the sign gifts are.
YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE GIFTS WERE ABOUT NOR EVEN WHAT THEY ARE!!!!!
You dont know how the gifts were imparted.
Challenging orthodoxy? Ask him why he does conferences with heretics? Guilty by association?
Good point. Perphaps he is a mediator by nature ❤
Jacob Inglett What are you referring to