No-Input Mixing Board Primer
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- Presentation for the Australasian Computer Music Conference 2020.
Hear my "NIMBY" albums here: reubeningall.bandcamp.com or spotify/apple/tidal
00:00 Introduction
00:27 What is audio feedback?
01:01 What is a no-input mixing board?
02:39 Building up layers and effects
05:01 Visualisation with Lissajous figures
06:28 Should you try this at home?
07:34 Short demo performance - Hudba
I used to do noise gigs during the 2000's . But it's so weird to see a serious video essay about this ^^
Me too :)
That end jam was delicious.
the Sauron part with the kick was amazing
this is fascinating! especially as someone who's into noise music and power electronics ⚡ thanks for the info!
This is all you need to make all types of noise. Add a contact mic and some avant garde performance and go on tour!
Primal genius art.
i've been a musician/engineer guy for 40 years and never heard of this but you just changed my life!! this is incredible!!
Dude Bravo! I don't know if people really understand how cool it is to see something like it is you're doing. I absolutely love the way you revealed the frequencies to a video signal and then layered it on top of that gnarly mixer self made loop. Thank you!
man i was literally just listening to your music on bandcamp, looked up no input mixing on youtube and this was one of the first videos. very informative and creative!
Excellent video and wow, the jam at the end! Beautiful!
WOW!! This is incredible! You deserve so, so many more views and subscribers this is excellent work my friend!
Nice work!!! Very in-depth and informative!
Low pass filters are your best friend. 2 or 3 filters in series work especially well.
Great video, really enjoyed the ravey jam at the end, liked and subscribed!
holy shit your albums on bandcamp are amazing
This was excellent mate. Really well presented and explained. I'm using pretty much the same setup. Those Behringer's are quite robust little things. Subbed :)
So good Reuben
Really great job homie. Love this video, all the info, and your song at the end :)
love the speaker stands
Amazing ! Thanks for sharing this.
Excellent overview
Rad. That was excellent. Thank you :)
Thanks!
I just bought the Yamaha GA32/12 mixing console just for this purpose. Now I need a lot of analog scopes. The older the better. Feel free to unload any old equipment this way for experimental purposes.
Great content. 👍
Wow this is awesome!
I'm trying to use the same technique and this is really inspiring!
Subscribed 👍👍
Great tutorial
Cool stuff!
superb video!
Man ty for making this video.
Had to use this to prove my friends wrong
Bravo ! 🔥
oh yeah that beat so goooooooood
Nice ,now i know more thanks 🤓
Im gonna try this on my mixer finely get some use out the thing
holy shit the end is so awesome lmao
That’s why, when sampling, you must turn off the sampler’s channel. If not, you might just break a mirror or glass of champagne. You know, as I think of it, I’m guessing that the funky synching phenomenon you are witnessing between channels there, it might be because those chanels are sharing IC chip resources, so maybe there’s a quad op-amp chip with two of the op-amps going to one chanel and the other two to another chanel. These are pretty groovy performances!! I’m surprised by how interesting this sounds! ¡¡THANKS for sharing about your esoteric niche audio experiments!!
Цель этого мероприятия - крутить все подряд ручки, и делать вид, что получается именно то, что хотел. И так же надо делать очень многоопытное лицо с элементами важности, и старться в этом хаосе найти какую-то ритмичность или музыкальность....
I have a very similar mixer at the bottom of my closet in a junk box. Time to locate a power cord.
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i do feedback loops which is almost like no input .... with effects and routing to the DAW and back out ...things that get the noise in tempo and tune help alot ... but yeah complicated
Is there a way to incorporate external effect on the signal and feed it back in.....say like an oscillator, lfo or filters, like you can do with a synth.
Like say run it through a synth using the synths controls in a passive capacity, just to manipulate the signal?
Or even use a keyboard to manipulate the pitch and/or tone?
Great work, very interesting
Can this damage guitar pedals? Thanks
It is possible. My cheap yellow overdrive pedal has withstood years of NIMB workouts, but I have fried two loop pedals, I think by running overloaded signal into them for too long :(
the shapes created are amazing, and maybe pretty pretty, but the noises sound like bad synthesis... almost crap
question: whats the cassette in that jam at the end used for? and what can i use cassette players for in no input mixing?
The cassette is the source of the kick drum loop (hey that's an input! I broke the rules). Maybe a more 'no-input' way of using it would be to send mixer signal to an actual tape loop, or simply record snippets live and then play them back into the mixer.
@@ReubenIngall ah gotcha. how do i pick a cassette player to use for this kinda thing?
@@archive4389 you'll need a three head if your going to use it to run a loop through
how'd you sync the cassette and mixer in the end jam?
A few people have asked me similar things when I've played live, and the answer is... they're not synced. (The tape and the loop pedal are operating independently, and I never even attempt to match them up by timing my playing.) Feeding the kick into the mixer is certainly causing a side-chain-style ducking effect, but our pattern-seeking brains do the rest :)
@@ReubenIngall that's awesome, thanks!
do u need a mixer with 6+ channels or anything?
The mixer I use has 4 channels plus a few extra ins and outs such as headphone and aux which are useful for making no-input loops. I guess the more channels you have the more options there are for patching.
@@ReubenIngall thanks so much for taking the time to answer my question brother. very informative, i do appreciate it and hope u have a beautiful/musical day
Does is matter if patch cables are mono or stereo?
It can matter! If you use a mono cable for a stereo socket you may only get its left channel. If you use a stereo cable between mono sockets you can get polarity issues.
I think all the sockets on my mixer are mono (though some are 'balanced') except the headphone out, so I just use mono plugs (and pairs of mono plugs like the red+white RCA cable). Sometimes I use a stereo plug in the headphone socket and split the signal to send to two different places.
There's loads more detail around this topic if you search terms like: polarity vs phase / balanced vs unbalanced cables.
@@ReubenIngall Thanks!! Great vid
My mom told me to take it outside 😢
I want the demo to be a 8 min long song so bad
Many of the tracks on my NIMBY #2 and #3 albums are in that vein :) reubeningall.bandcamp.com/album/nimby-2
I was just wondering where you have your kick patched in? That ducking effect you get in the mix is gold.
Yeah I'm a big fan of how that works out sounding like side-chain compression! The cassette player is plugged into the aux return. Some times when I've played live I've sent a channel of the kick to the NIMB and another straight to the PA, so I get a 'clean' kick underneath as well as one that crunches up the feedback tones.
SpK SpK SpK Ok
1:45 that has to be the most eloquent way of saying "random shit" ive ever heard.
The only interesting album I've found using this method is Egrets by Tohsimaru Nakamura. He treats the sound to kill the harshness of the frequency and makes smooth waves of sound. His other albums and collaborations are unlistenable to me as the sine waves he uses are just too high of a frequency for me and give me a headache. A concept I want to like, but the execustion is just not physically listenable to me.
That's fair enough! Certainly some dog-aggravating type of tones available here. I think the thing that makes it more listenable to me is when there's a rhythmic/loop element.
How to pronounce "Behringer" (by Uli Behringer):
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haha yes we Australians pronounce many things 'wrong'
all australians sound the same
I don't understand, what is the point of using a mixer? I can do this same feedback technique in Eurorack using EVERY type of module.
Sounds cool :)
The point for me is that I have a mixer. My ethos is to use what you have on hand and explore its possibilities. The technique emerged with mixers because they predate the 2010s popularity of Eurorack.
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