We've Been Here For Years: A Yellowjackets Video Essay
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- We're taking a look at the brilliant foreshadowing in Yellowjackets for Natalie's fate in both 2021 and The Wilderness! We're breaking down how the costuming, editing, music, and visual references all gave us clues to the events of Season two starting in the very first episode.
This video is particularly focused on Natalie as played by Juliette Lewis and Sophie Thatcher.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro & Overview
7:08 The Antler Queen: None of Us Made It Back
16:30 It's Heliotrope: Color and Foreshadowing
21:34 It Was Always Misty: The Wilderness Chose
26:00 Wrapup
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Another thing is that when the group originally find the deck of cards, it's missing the queen of hearts, and Javi is the one who finds it, showing that he had already been chosen as the one to die, not Natalie.
Oh wow that's an amazing catch! If I remember the deck was missing all of the queens
Which episode was this in? I've been trying to find it
Thera is a line where Mari (I think it is her) asks Javi where he found the queen card, but you have to have the subtitles on because it is real quiet. As is the humming in “Qui”. I wish the showrunners would make those things a little bit more prominent. So, I guess Javi’s friend gave him the queen card. What a great friend! :/
It’s Akilah, not Mari who asks about the card.
Omg!! that just made me let out a scream, awesome catch
Say what you want about Jeff, but him sitting outside of the police department blasting f the police is iconic
Oh, I love Jeff, he's so much fun and really handling all the horror better than most would 😅
I love Jeff 😂
He's so great 🤣
i hated jeff but he is so me when he’s listening to music 💀
I definitely think Coach burned the cabin I saw a tik tok of the cabin burning scene and the caption was “how do you get rid of Yellowjackets? You burn the nest”
Omg that's great 😂😭
natalie being the AQ also explains mistys obsession with her in particular. misty goes so far out of her way for nat and to do things for nat in a way that she doesn't with the others. it also explains nats dislike for misty, i mean i know they all dont like her but nat REALLY doesn't. misty latches on to ben, he leaves her. she latches on to lottie, lottie gives up her power over the group. so of course misty is going to latch on the the AQ, she wants to make herself important to nat. thats why she is how she is in adulthood toward nat and thats why nat is so much more hateful toward misty. they remind each other of the wilderness, one loves it one hates it. thats just my theory anyway i could just be being dumb idk.
This is a fantastic observation and I think you're right on the money
Ben burning down the cabin is still a hotly debated topic. Unconfirmed. Insinuated yes, but there's a lot insinuated in this show.
I think it was him, just because it seemed so obvious to me, like he took the matches, we saw him staring in horror at them, clearly he thinks they're better off dead than eating each other 😅
Although I guess I could see it being something like the plane caching fire for Laura Lee
I'm sure you are familiar with the Cabin Daughter theory/Javi's friend being the one who lit the cabin on fire. Retribution for what was done to Javi. The doors were locked, IMO. No rope was seen on the door when Tai broke it open wit the ax, The locks on the doors were the antique style that needs a removable key to lock and unlock. But who would have the key?
As for LL's plane, people think Lottie's baptismal vision was a premonition of LL's death., I think it was more akin to a demand hidden within a request.
Nice video BTW@@renrants
Oh I actually hadn't seen that theory, but it's really interesting! My only question wild be why the cabin wasn't more lived in or something if that were the case
I think you're right about Laura Lee's plane and Lottie's premonition, especially because we've seen her see bad things before they happen before
And thank you for your kind words :)
Loved the video. I wish you'd dug deeper into the heliotrope symbolism especially with Lottie wearing so much golden tones, as heliotropism is the phenomenon of plants following the sun through the day. But everything else is bang on. I have been rewatching with someone who hasn't seen it before so I can't wait to show them this when we get there.
To 2025!
@SquishMum thanks so much for your kind words! ❤️
Great note on the symbolism! I actually didn't stumble on that until fairly late in my research, but the idea that Lottie is the sun and the flowers follow her is brilliant. Also, her wardrobe gets darker as she reunites with Natalie, almost like the sun being eclipsed!
I'm planning to do more videos on the other characters and maybe dig into Lottie a little more, so I'll keep that note in mind :)
Yellowjackets rewards attentive viewers SO much, and it has such an amazing rewatch value due to constant re-contextualization and foreshadowing. Everything is a very deliberate choice, whether it be the costumes, the set designs, the soundtracks, etc etc.
For instance, the antler queen's "costume" includes jewelry which resembles tear drops, and Nat wore the exact same jewelry during Doomcoming. She also wore a crown, like Lottie and nobody else, except her branches were smaller. Still growing.
Oh wow those are some great details too! It's so fun seeing what everyone else noticed
Natalie also wearing purple in the beginning of the adult storyline could symbolize ‘royalty’ back in the day that color was exclusive for royalty to wear
Great thought! I was so focused on the heliotrope symbolism I forgot that purple in general has its own meaning 😅
I really still believe the antler queen is a rotating role, we see the four antler queens in the first scene where they discuss what to do with Allie, Tai, Nat, Shauna, and Lottie. Each have their own season, figuratively and literally. Lottie, I think, is going to be the antler queen by the pilot point, they just didn’t have Lottie in season one, so they can’t exactly go and use any foreshadowing shots with her just yet.
Interesting! I think it being a rotating thing is definitely a possibility, although there's already been some foreshadowing for Lottie too!
@@renrants sorry I had meant to say adult Lottie! (In terms of season one at the least)
Oooh that's a great point actually! I could see it rotating to adult Lottie, especially as the others converge
Idk if this is a unique theory but a lot of things seem to be a metaphor for settlers and new relationship with land. There were signs of people before them, but they don’t understand it. There’s spirits but they don’t know how to communicate with them so they make meaning out of random coincidences. These settlers start cannibalising each other instead of learning how to tune in with the land (which I think is what Lottie is trying to get people to do via meditation). Lottie also tries to form their own tribal culture; but it seems like they’re going to corrupt it with “dominance” settler ideas in the future. Mari and Lottie’s actors are also of Indigenous descent which I don’t think is coincidental.
I think pit girl is a sike out. They’re probably chasing her for some other reason, she ends up unaliving herself accidentally and they eat her out of survival, like with Jackie. Because I think once their cabin is burned down, the last sign of western comfort, they’re actually gonna end up more teamlike rather than distrusting as they have been.
I do think there’s a spirit in the forest but it’s benevolent, it’s just Lottie being off her meds that make it seem menacing. It’s probably saying something like “give yourself to the land” as in, stop fearing it but Lottie interprets it as needing a sacrifice for instance.
I think that's likely honestly, but I kinda hope not. I hope the spirit isn't benevolent or evil, that it's sort of neutral with the ability to be both things depending on what is being put into it. I also hope that Lottie trying to commune with it isn't necessarily the good thing.
I think pit girl being a sike out would kinda be a let down. They're working towards selecting people and hunting them, so if she just randomly ran out and they decided to allow it as a hunt, it would feel kinda disappointing.
@@LeapThroughTheSky those are both good points also! The pit girl thing i have worries about because the producers have basically said it was only for the pilot but I hope they do build a proper storyline based on the fan’s anticipation to find out who she is.
@@whiro8945 that does make sense, I wasn't aware of that. But it makes sense because I was struggling to figure out who the girl was. I hope they do give us something cool, even if it turns out to be one of the last things that happened out there.
i think thats likely, theres seemingly a lot of inspiration from native american folklore of the region, with the wendigo specifically standing out to me, though it is more of an evil spirit. (large variation in wendigo folklore but in the regions closer to where the plane presumably crashed, it seems much closer to what actually goes on in yellowjackets)
I was absolutely obsessed with this show from November 2022- when it finished airing in 2023. I was one of those people on the subreddit daily posting theories LOL. More people need to talk about it!
Same! It's so fun having a show with a big speculating Fandom like this, it makes me happy 😅
I'm still so mad at the greedy studios for all the delays
my favorite detail in season 2 is Akilahs mouse. when she first finds it its very clearly alive and moving, but then the next time we see her take it out and put it on the shelf its definitely dead already. I find it so sad that her connection with the mouse is what kills it, if she had let it be it might still be alive ):
That's an amazing observation!
The mouse thing made me so sad 😭
i thought the mouse was never alive
That's what I thought too, but now I'm not so sure 😅
I think it was always dead
I don’t know how this showed up in my feed but I’m glad it did cause it got me to watch the show so I could come back and watch your video. I’m absolutely in love with it. Watched it all in 24 hours. I can’t wait for another season. I’m dying.
So happy you enjoyed it! It's one of my favorites
literally my exact experience- creepy 😂
I thought her adult fate was because Juliette Lewis wanted to leave the show and it was sloppy and bad writing, but I love this rationalization and I want the show to be good so I want to buy into it,
this is great analysis.
Hahaha, thank you! Imo she probably did want to leave so they accelerated whatever they had planned. I like it and thought it was well written, but I can definitely see why people were so upset 😅
that was probably the reason, but i still think they did it well. natalie was haunted by javi's death, to the point that she finally accepted the ritual by becming the antler queen, as a way to rationalise killing and eating him. i liked that this time she didn't hold back and actually saved the innocent person, which is what she wanted to do from the start.
That Vulture panel…I think the showrunners were…hey, let’s kill Nat off…when JL did her little temper tantrum. :)
I would have loved Nat to find herself and then when Lottie was taken to the hospital, Nat and Lisa ran the compound. They helped people, made honey and dyed socks together. Then Nat found out Lisa was her kid via Travis when she came back pregnant in 1998! I mean, they could have even ended Nat’s plotline there with the rest of the YJs upset at her decisions but Lottie giving Nat and Lisa her blessings in taking control of the compound. It would have been better than to have Nat find inner peace and then get stabbed…having the police ironically find her and say she died because she was a junkie. I mean, the police don’t think any odd play was going on when there is a woman who just won a political office, two women questioned for Adam’s murder, etc…Walter saying he made some false bank statements that could frame anyone was a bit of a stretch, even for this show!
Wait I thought the writers said that from the start Juliet wasn't meant to be in the full planned 5 seasons. I could've sworn I heard that but maybe it wasn't true.
this video is so good!! :D If you make more, i’d love to hear your opinions on Taissa! Her whole plot line is really odd and I honestly can’t tell where it’s going,, the other girls make is seem like she’s possessed by an evil more cool alter ego, but I never noticed how ruthless she could be when she’s awake until a second watch! i’m starting to think her sleepwalking just exacerbates the already existing dark layer her character has. Especially since it comes with other stress related symptoms like pica and hallucinations.
Thank you! I do plan to talk about Taissa because she's fascinating, especially since she started seeing the man with no eyes before the Wilderness
What a great video and had alot i myself missed. I was superbitter by season 2, especially by the ending. But now i'm feeling excited for season 3, and i'm gonna rewatch the seasons very soon!
Thank you so much! I'm glad it was able to shift your feelings about season 2 a bit! ❤️
Mistys character both young and old are PERFECTLY cast. Easily the best in the show by far.
Which is saying something, because they're all great!
Yesss yay I've been looking for yellowjackets analysis' since I watched it! Please make more 😄
thank you, sincerely I love this show and it's so nice to see more fan analysis content being made
Thank you so much ❤️
such an awesome video! please make more! i'm so obsessed with this show and need content to hold over till season 3!!
Thank you! Don't worry I definitely plan to talk about it more
I appreciate your throughline! I didn't catch any of those hints, and i think I'm due for a rewatch. Come ooonnnn season 3!!
I didn't catch them the first time around either, I started noticing them when I restarted the pilot immediately after the season 2 finale 😅
you are amazing for putting all these pieces together! the down by the water foreshadowing shook me :O
Thank you! 🥺❤️
Purple... Such an awesome color!
It is my favorite 😎❤️
I appreciate this video essay so much and I'm so glad I clicked
Thank you so much! 🥺❤️
Whewwwww needed this excellent analysis tysm
Thank you! 🥺❤️✨
I was insanely obsessed with the first season of YJ. Less so but still loved S2. Good video and analysis! Thank you! Bring on S3!!!
Thank you! What did you like less about season 2? Just curious :)
@@renrants as someone else who was obsessed with S1 but not so much S2, i think it may have something to do with the mystery. i was so hooked in S1 on the mysteries of the adult timeline, as well as invested in the teens desperately trying to survive the wilderness . in S1, i felt super immersed and was trying to figure out the myseries as they evolved. in S2, however, it felt like a lot of the mystery was built from dramatic irony- as the viewer, i felt we already knew most of the answers, but the characters didn't, so i wasnt trying too hard to put pieces together as i went. i still adored S2, and am very excited to see what happens next!! just feel like- for me- S2 lacked a little in the mystery element, particularly in the adult timelines :)
i also watched S2 incredibly sporadically, over the space of probably two months... so this probably has more to do with me than the show!! i'm planning on rewatching soon, so i may enjoy S2 a little more this time around, when it's all fresh!! thank you for this video, i loved your analysis
@summerbrown4781 that's really interesting, I guess I can see what you mean, there really weren't as many big questions in the adult timeline in season 2, we found Lottie's cult, we know who the blackmailer was, etc. That's such a good point
i need more of this show asap im so obsessed w it
I'm sorry but Nat seeing Misty after taking LSD at the party is terrible foreshadowing for Nats death. foreshadowing the antler queen I can see, but not her death, if it foreshadows her death that's some of the worst I've seen
I don't think it was just that that foreshadowed it, I think it was just an omen of her future significance
Enjoyed this exploration - thanks!
Thank you!
How so crazy awesome and thoughtful! This was so insightful and definitely a hard character to loose but truthfully I think you are right!
Thank you! ❤️
I love love love your analysis of Yellowjackets thus far!!! Great writing and amazing delivery! BTW- you’re really pretty and your voice is perfect for this. Thanks a lot!
Thank you so much, that's so sweet 😭😭😭
Thoroughly enjoyed this video and your analysis- really insightful and well reasoned. Would love to see more Yellowjackets content. You’ve gained a new sub 💗🐝
Thank you so much! :)
There's definitely more YJ content in the works, although hopefully in the meantime some of my other content also appeals to you
Great video!!! Can’t wait for season 3
Thank you so much!
Great video and analysis, a lot of insights i completely missed. This is a great show, really curious as to where it will go moving forward. Natalie’s arc felt complete by the end of the second season. So much still to explore though
Thank you so much! I'm definitely interested in where things will go next for sure!
What a phenomenal video, I love it! Great observations! 💞 I am a liitle bit late to the game, finished season 2 today. So it is still all very fresh to me, and looking for some interviews I stumbled across your essay. I subscribed to your channel so that I don't miss when you do a possible next one. Please do!
Thank you so much for your kind words! :) I'm slowly but surely getting to work on the next one, although it won't be my next video, this one was months in the making, haha
@@renrantsI believe to remember that you said you did not have watched so many interviews. But there is a YT channel that I can only recommend. It is "Collider Extras", Perry Nemiroff runs an interview series there under the name "Collider Ladies Night", or now "Collider Forces". Being a big fan of Yellowjackets herself, she was talking to several actors from the show. What I like about this talks, and what makes them special, among the fact that the interviews are in a very chilled mood, is that the actors dive deep into the characters and also talk about the backstories that they made up for their characters. If you don't know it by now you should check it out. Very entertaining and very informative.
Great video! I enjoy Yellowjackets and found this informative!
Thank you so much :)
Thank you for this great video!
parabéns! melhor vídeo sobre a série que eu vi até hoje (e olha que eu já vi muitos). não tenho outra alternativa a não ser maratonar seu conteudo e divulgar seu video em todos os locais possíveis, pq o que é bom (e seu vídeo é) merece ser visto e enaltecido.
I love love love this show! Such a great video and makes me feel better about the ending of season 2, which admittedly was a little messy so thank you for this analysis!! (Also you look similar to young Shauna imo, so beautiful)❤
Thank you for your kind words! ❤️🥺
I'm glad the video had some value for you :)
more on the heliotrope that i've found: the garden heliotrope (which i believe is the most common purple heliotrope - the most common wound-treating heliotrope is heliotropium indicum which is not purple) is also toxic if ingested, and wikipedia has this to say about it: "the plant is not very palatable, but will be eaten by animals with no other forage" ... and the mineral heliotrope is known as the bloodstone for its distinctive red splotches that look like blood's been spilled on it. just some things that sparked my thoughts in re: the colour-coding and specific labelling of it as such by lottie for her cult and the symbolism it carries for nat's storyline.
Wow these are amazing connections thank you for sharing!
Idk if anyone else has said this but imo you look a lot like young shauna :) you have similar faces to me
That's sweet of you to say, one of my friends actually said the same thing! If only that meant I'd age into Melanie Lynskey 🥺
I was gonna comment the same thing!
it is crazy how much you look like Sophie Nelisse !! also I loved this video essay so much!
Thank you! To both statements 🥺❤️
I innitially watched this video bc I had no plan of watching the show. About halfway through, I decided to come back after I'd finished watching the show. So thank you for putting me onto Yellowjackets!
Omg thank you, so happy the video made you want to check out the show! Can't wait to see what you think :)
@@renrants I finished it about 30 minutes before I left my comment and it has been a WILD ride. I've already recommended it to my friends 😅
Amazing! So happy you liked it :)
I just realized I watched the entire premiere on my other account haha. Oops. Great job either way!
Thanks for tuning in either way, haha :)
Really interesting video! I’ve still got my money on Lottie being the one under the antlers in the pilot (especially with the scripts using the oracle and the hunter as their titles) but I enjoyed hearing your argument for why it’s Nat.
Honestly while working on the video I kept convincing and un-convincing myself 😅 I still think it's ultimately going to be Natalie, but now that she's gone I wonder if it'll be Lottie in the adult time line
@@renrantscan’t wait to find out! I honestly tend to have a different view of the show than a lot of the fandom (to my mind, the adult timeline is actually pretty hopeful if not always happy, and tilted towards the adult women healing and finding out the answers they never received as teenagers) so my predictions about the future have a lot less to do with repeating the mistakes of their past and more about correcting them, and Lottie taking on a leadership role again does feel possible even with that spin!
Also, just as a sidenote/quibble in wording: I don’t know if I would say Nat allowing Javi to die is an instance of her humanity faltering, so much as a deeply human desire to survive showing up in a way that necessitated she allow something horrible to happen. I totally get what you meant, but as someone who is really interested in how the show is taking the usual Lord of the Flies racism where the untamed wilderness drives Good Civilized People™️ to madness and subverting it, I couldn’t help but wince a little at the wording there.
I'm so mad at the studios for drawing the strikes out so long, I need my YJ fix 😭
I really like your framing of the adult timeline as well, and I think it jives with Natalie correcting the mistake of letting someone die for her by sacrificing herself to save Lisa.
Reasonable criticism, perhaps I should have approached it with a bit more nuance since I think the instinct to save someone else and to save one's self are both innately human instincts that were warring for Natalie, but I think the survival instinct is more primal and animal than compassion if that makes sense.
I do love your interpretation of the refemaing of the lord of the flies archetypes, and I'll add one interesting element I've come to appreciate more and more is how much darkness there actually was in all of them before they even got to the wilderness, just manifesting in different ways
@@renrants oh yeah, no worries at all! I find myself trying to edit out anything where I imply the girls are somehow devolving/feral/less human from my own writing all the time, despite my own feelings on the issue-we tend to talk about things being “inhumane” or whatever when what we mean is “terrible”, so picking over my own language when I talk about this show is a constant exercise in how we only have the vocabulary we have, and trying to find the best way to phrase something an endless effort.
Not to tldr in your comments yet more, but since it’s relevant: I’m also incredibly interested in the idea that their rules in the wilderness are no more or less brutal/feral/savage than the rules of our actual world, just more honest and immediate about it. (And obviously violent: to be honest in my own bias, my issue is remembering the cannibal cult has downfalls as well, and isn’t simply a better version of the same old shit.) For example: my principles and politics run counter to the things I allow my government and general society to do, but because I am not the hand that deals out the killing blow it’s always easier to internally justify my actions. I’m really hoping the vibes I’m picking up on in the show that echo that ideal come to fruition, and fingers crossed I’m onto something v seeing what I want to see.
I think being precise in language is so important, thank you for the reminder!
I do think there's an interesting push and pull between the human animal and what we see as higher human ideals, but it's hard to talk about without falling into tropes that don't accurately represent the story
I love your analysis, it's so well thought out! I also think you're onto something, especially with the darkness in the women in the adult timeline that they're fighting against, and Shauna saying there was no "It" it was just them, implies that the wilderness wasn't the deciding factor in their darkness or willingness to act brutally out of self preservation
Grrr I’m so excited to watch this bc I don’t get to talk abt the show w anyone 👹👹
finally youtube is recommending the good stuff (and during my rewatch too woohoo)
Thank you 😭🥺
Another show that's definitely not up my alley but pretty interesting to hear you discuss. XD
It's certainly not for everyone 🤣
Please make more Yellowjackets related content!!!
Working on it 😎❤️
YAS QUEEN!!!!! 💖
I wouldn't say I saw Natalie's death coming, like I saw Jeff being the blackmailer coming but it didn't feel surprising, like it felt like where her story should end.
End of season 1 was way more shocking, Lottie having a cult in the wilderness was obvious but for that cult to still be running in 2021 not so much. 😂 At that point I was starting to think there may have been 2 groups in the wilderness, 1 run by Lottie and a second run by someone else but it looks like it was just 1 group.
To me it felt inevitable that that was how it would end for her, but not necessarily so soon.
I didn't see it coming the first time around, I only noticed the foreshadowing during a rewatch
Unfortunately, there are still active cults in 2024
@@yegra well yes, I meant I didn't think HER cult would still be active
@@TheDreadedScotsman ohhh 🥲
@@yegraBut not all cults are bad. Many, but not all.
Great Yellow Jackets video
Thank you!
@@renrants Don’t mention it !
I feel validated 😅
Honestly, I was never a fan of Nat, so I'm not sad to see her gone. Her death worked well and made the most sense. The juxtaposition of Nat being crowned the leader in the past and dying in the present beautifully shows how different their lives are now. Once Nat was the leader everyone looked to, the one who was fated to die but didn't, the one who kept them alive. But in the present she couldn't cope with that after she lost her purpose as the leader, turned to drugs and alcohol, and eventually ended up being killed by the very person who saved her life the first time around.
But killing Nat wasn't just narratively a good choice. Killing Van or Lottie after they were just introduced would've been a boring, less emotionally impactful choice and out of the other four, Nat's story was the easiest to conclude. They would never kill Shauna or Tai this early because there's too much material with Shauna's family (and if anyone is "the" main character, it's her) and Tai's alter ego to explore. And Misty is the quirky, crazy wildcard of the show, they wouldn't kill her off early either. Besides, the emotional impact on the other characters wouldn't be very high with Misty dying. They all clearly valued Nat (if only for what she did for them in the past), while Misty is perceived as an annoyance none of them are close to on any level.
I admire it when writers actually kill characters off that are beloved when it fits the narrative instead of opting for the safer choices. They already did that in the teen timeline, which I understand. Ben, Akilah, and Mari are literally the only more major characters left they can still kill. With the introduction of Lottie and Van, killing someone in the adult timeline also leaves room to explore their stories now.
What season two did really well too, was showing characters change and adapt and prove everyone wrong who claimed someone like Nat turn out to not have particpated in the worst of it. No, everyone but Ben participated in cannibalism, everyone but Lottie and Ben agreed to sacrifice one of them via the drawing of cards, Nat chose to sacrifice Javi to live, Van, Shauna, Tai, and Misty actively took part in the first hunt, Shauna was the first to eat human flesh, sceptical Tai was converted to the wilderness religion, and Nat ended up as their leader. The show is about a group of people collectively committing unspeakable acts and starting to believe in a higher power (whether real or not), not about the "good" and "bad" survivors. Even Ben, the only one not partaking in any of it, tried to kill them all. I think Ben might be hunted down in season 3 for attempting to kill them and it would make for a good storyline to show how far gone they are if they include a hunt in the summer when they actually don't need to resort to eating human flesh.
I do wonder how much was truly planned from the beginning because I think somewhere it was said that the season isn't planned out yet (or wasn't when they started season 1 at least) and with them originally wanting to kill off Van and now she's one of the survivors, it's clear they're still changing things around and might not even have decided on the fates of Akilah, Mari, and Ben yet. I do think you're right that they knew Nat would be the AQ from the beginning though. Whether they always planned to kill her, I'm not sure.
Thank you so much for your insightful comment! I totally agree killing Nat was a good narrative choice even if I really liked her. It raises the stakes a lot and reminds us there's no "plot armor" even for beloved main characters. Your analysis for why it made the most sense for adult Nat to die over the others was spot on!
I think the writers at the very least have a loose outline of where they want the whole show to go, but it probably changes a lot when they actually sit down to write as the story and characters inform them of what actually works and what doesn't, for example they were kicking around the idea that Adam might be Javi, but then decided it's actually more tragic if he was just a normal guy who loved Shauna.
So I think they may have had a general idea of where they wanted to take Natalie and that they were going to kill her off, and I think having Lottie and Misty involved was planned from the start, but I kind of suspect they originally planned to kill her off later but ended up moving up the timeline because it did end up feeling a bit rushed
@@renrants I agree, the foreshadowing you pointed out in the video would be quite the coincidence if they didn't have any plan to kill Nat from the beginning. I think that's why it works so well and isn't just a big shocker, although strangely many people seem to think it just happened because Juliette Lewis wanted to leave and not because of its narrative value, so I'm glad you made this video. I wondered what the point of Nat's vision was in season 1 but never thought about it further and your take on it makes so much sense!
@blackk_rose_ thank you! :)
Yeah, I think people were kind of right that it felt pretty sudden, but when you really look at her character arc combined with the foreshadowing it feels beautifully inevitable. I think it's probable that Juliette wanted to leave the show and that's why they moved it up to the end of season 2, but I don't know if we'll ever get confirmation, haha!
Idk...but i still think Lottie is the Antler Queen, but i like the choice of Natalie becoming the new queen @ the end of S2. I'm still mad 😡 they killed off Nat. Juliette Lewis was AWESOME as adult Nat. Coach Ben is definitely in trouble, he set the fire to the cabin [like Fuck them kids!!! I had a enough! 😂] BUT i feel that the wilderness had a role of the cabin burning down as well.
I like your interpretation of the cabin fire, it's interesting that he was so horrified they killed Javi he tried to kill all of them, although maybe it was just to save himself
It could definitely be a transitional title that goes to the others I thought it was interesting how they all seemed to think Lottie was going to make them the leader
@@renrants Oh yeah. The wilderness at this point is supernatural (I believe) especially when they discovered the symbol on the tree. I have weird feeling that the crash was meant for them, and to be stranded there for that long.
@ashleysummers8337 part of me wants it to be supernatural, but part of me wants it to just be them and the darkness that was already with them
@@renrants thanks for replying back! Really like you're reviews for this show compared to other videos. The ones I've seen & heard are AI and they can't pronounce Taissa & Javi's names right! 😂 Can't wait to see more when S3 comes back.
Thanks so much for your kind words! :)
Ugh, I hate the proliferation of AI content, happy to be an alternative for sure 😅
All I want is for Marni to make it out of the wilderness alive.
I kind of suspect she's pit girl, but we can hope 🥺
I heard that people think Mari freaks out, like when she saw blood on the cabin’s walls and runs outside in the snow…and falls into the pit accidentally like either Cabin Daddy set it up years ago or something similar. It does fit her character and could be another “accidental” death with the Wilderness speaking.
Foaming mouth fan earned you a subscription
Glad someone appreciated it, haha :)
The color purple is also a symbol of royalty. It could mean they saw Nat as regal
Great point! Especially with all the bee queen stuff Lottie talked about
Ugh I just realized I should have mentioned in the video, but Lottie could even be the new queen emerging that causes the death of the other prospective queens starting with Natalie :o
don't think misty is the reason they didnt get rescued she destroyed the flight recorder but thought it was the transmitter even though it only works in the ocean.
I had a bit I cut from the video where I mentioned it seemed unlikely she'd be able to break something designed to survive a plane crash (video was getting too long 😅)
I do think it's narratively more interesting if she was responsible in that regard though
idk because i don't like how people put everything to blame on her for that but i think it is still interesting that she thought it was a transmitter. @@renrants
Yeah, even if it didn't actually stop them from getting rescued, she thought it would, and she was so desperate for people to like her that she was willing to strand them there indefinitely, but realistically I don't think she thought in that moment they'd be out there for 19 months, she probably imagined a few weeks where she'd be indespensible before they were rescued
@@cripsdubs i feel like even though it by itself wouldnt have worked she clearly thought it would've and the girls after the crash do talk like they also think the transmitter would help them be found so either the show is fudging reality a bit, but also it doesnt matter much because misty was under the impression it would help them be found so her intentions remain the same. i also think the show does frame it like its something to be upset about because *gestures to crystal* so i wouldnt be surprised if they're fudging reality a bit
you just made that season finale acceptable to me. I didn't like it but now at least I can understand why it happened.
Glad to be of service, haha 😅
I'm sure season 3 will be great but I am worried now that Nat is gone literally in the adult timeline and gone mentally in the teen timeline that new episodes might lack balance and grounding in reality with her gone as the voice of reason. Her and coach Ben were so important because I would be getting second hand anxiety from all the silly shenanigans the others were getting up to and then Nat or Ben would be like yeah they are crazy and dangerous we gotta try to stay alive and sane. It was weirdly cathartic and reassuring. I guess it just made things seem more real and helped with suspension of disbelief. At first adult Van seemed like she could be a good way to fill this role but I guess not after the hunt. Maybe Callie? But she seems a bit too connected to Shauna.
I'm not saying there always needs to be a straight man character, I think that's what it's called when a character is always the 'voice of reason' and the realist of the group. Some shows can get boring and bogged down by constantly referring back to a straight man and prioritising grounding a story with logic and reality over story quality and it can limit them from exploring more interesting absurd and abstract ideas in cool experimental ways and creating an engaging amount of ambiguity.
I love the show Always Sunny In Philadelphia I think in part because they abandoned the idea of having Dee be the straight man after a couple episodes and it got so much better when they let them all be extremely flawed and funny characters and the role of straight man would be volatile and fragile and shift every couples minutes, the voice of reason would often be entirely absent or put on a minor guest character.
idk what my point is I loved this video essay and was sad when I went to your profile and couldn't find any more Yellowjackets vids. I subscribed in the hope you will make some more. Made me feel like I was back in English class analysing the symbolism in a novel (this is a compliment I adored that class).
Thank you so much! This was my first video on Yellowjackets, although I do have more planned down the road. I make a lot of content on different shows and movies.
I'm definitely interested to see where they go without Nat in the adult timeline, it's certainly a hard loss to adapt to!
If you're looking for another fun mystery show to watch while we wait for season three I totally recommend FROM
@@renrants Thank you so much for the reply and the rec! I will check it out!
Any time :)
@@renrants I love 'From' so much & almost never see anyone talking about or mentioning it. I wish more people talked about it, but ill subscribe to your channel now & see what else youre watching & discussing!!
@ar4203 thank you so much! It definitely feels underrated for how good it is, thank goodness it's by far the best thing on MGM so it's kind of become their flagship show, makes me less worried about the prospect of cancelation 😅
That doesn’t seem like foreshadowing at all tho, it just kind of seems like they’re crafting scenes with “signs” that point to all of them being something and doing something and then the audience is selectively picking the ones that fit the narrative.
Lost did that a lot and it was interesting in the beginning but at some point people caught on to it and got tired of being tricked. Because that’s what is is, its a trick so they don’t have to commit to one story and run the risk of someone figuring it out and ruining the ending. They do this to craft a mystery without having to actually write a good mystery because everyone is a suspect if they never choose the person.
I think different things are foreshadowed for different characters, like the plausible foreshadowing for the Antler Queen applies mostly to Nat and Lottie, the stuff with Shauna is about her relationship with Jackie, Taissa's stuff is mainly about her dissociative episodes and the man with no eyes, and Misty's stuff is primarily related to her relationships with the others and desperation to belong and role in Nat and Javi's deaths.
I never finished Lost, but I know everyone was disappointed. I'm not saying Yellowjackets definitely won't turn out that way, but so far we've already gotten a lot of set up that had very clear pay off.
This is an ensemble story, so we can expect each character's relationship with The Wilderness to be explored. From what I've seen so far I think the writers have a fairly detailed outline for where they want the story to go by the end and they flesh out each season accordingly.
Yellowjackets is a show that encourages fan speculation, and so far when Fans have guessed things right they haven't changed it. They even acknowledged that we were right to guess that Adam might be Javi, because it was a storyline they had considered, which doesn't make me feel like they're trying to outsmart the audience.
Also, we already knew from the very beginning that all of the survivors feel guilty about the things they did out there, none of them escaped with clean hands or consciences, they have all done something and they all are something to The Wilderness as well.
I get being skeptical if you've been burned before, I've watched more than a few mystery shows that went horribly off the rails (*cough* pretty little liars *cough*) but with YJ I think the writers are going to give us satisfying answers to some of the bigger mysteries, I think Nat's death was always planned down the pike, but I think they moved it up because Juliette Lewis wanted to leave the show so it did feel a bit rushed
started Yellowjackets yesterday morning, just finished it. The second i saw Lonnie i clocked her as a psychic. I just read an article that said S3 is currently in production! We'll probably have it either end of this year or start of next year cause of the writer's strikes. I'm desperate to know who pit girl is!!! I think it might be Mari, but why would Mari have Jackie's necklace? I doubt that Shauna would have given it to her.
Also I didn't clock Nat as the antler queen, I thought it would be Shauna...
To be fair Shauna also thought it was gonna be her, haha
I think they might give Jackie's necklace to whoever is being hunted as part of the ritual, but it's just a guess
@@renrants omg i didn't even think of that! It makes sense since she was their first to be, yknow, nom-nommed
@rue...whenwasthis poor Snackie, haha 🤣
Thank you. God review. Was there any significance for using Yellowjackets as the team name and as the title of the series?
That's a great question, with a quick Google search here's what I found: "The show's title is a playful nod to Golding's book (Lord of the Flies); flies may have been a fine analogue for boys, but girls require the ferocity of wasps, with their venom and their stingers"
@@renrants Yellowjackets, being social wasps are omnivorous. and provide meat for their larvae. Adults mostly eat nectar, fallen fruit and carrion. They capture insects, spiders and caterpillars to hold them in their nests to provide food for their larvae. Also social bees are mostly workers (female), queens (female) and some drones (male) Wasp nests can have from 2,000 to 4,000 workers, some drones and up to 50 queens. Workers need to be fertilized by males. Queens, too. But drones are unfertilized. Yellow jacket hunt and are mostly female. Food for thought. Thank you.
Yellowjackets reminds me of yellow wrasp that stings
This is the video you upload for Valentine's Day?
And this is the video I watched on Valentine's Day. Great!
Yup, this was completely girly things, which I will never ever understand why they do whatever they do? Hahahahaha
Hahaha glad you liked it 😅 my original intention was to upload it last week, but I was feeling a bit under the weather so things got delayed
Ngl Yellowjackets captures something about high school girls' friendships that is incredibly interesting
@@renrants High school girls' friendships, okay I get that point. Yes, that was interesting.
But all of that cult thing was so bizarre, sick and weird. I actually was feeling like I never want to go out again.
Can you imagine if your girlfriend was a part of that cult? I cannot handle that kind of thing. It scares me.
@giyanvice oh yeah, it's objectively terrifying, one of the best horror shows in recent years imo in terms or presenting a lot of genuinely chilling stuff
It's definitely not for everyone, but I find I really love this show and its messy broken characters so much 😅
If you want something that's almost pure fluff for valentines day I recommend Heartstopper, it's such a sweet show
@@renrants I would say this horror shows breaks a lot of social norms and taboos. Yes, a lot of genuinely chilling stuff.
I find that the messy broken characters is the humanity itself. Many try to hide it, but in reality there is no perfect person on this planet.
I watched the trailer for Heartstopper, and its definitely not for me, because I hate annoying teens.
Have you watched "The Promised Neverland" I like that kind of horror. It is better kind of horror which is genuinely chilling as well.
im p sure theres an interview w the writers where they confirmed that nat hallucinating misty was deliberate foreshadowing to nat’s death
That definitely makes sense!
How did Ben found Javi's hiding place ? It's not like he could've crossed the lake without drowning like Javi. And I don't think he could've just go around the lake, it's too long and exhausting for him
That's a good question!
It is possible he successfully crossed the lake though, the others didn't fall in while Javi was drowning. I think he figured it out from what Nat told him about Javi worshipping a tree
@@renrants yeah that's possible, but like, he must be in good form for going to the lake, crossing it and coming back while starving and missing a leg. And it's not like the lake is really close to the remote. I kinda admire him XD
Totally true, there's honestly lots of unrealistic stuff, but watching people sit around and starve isn't actually very interesting so they have to take some liberties 😅
@@renrants seems legit indeed 😂
@@renrants It's crazy, but during the real life event it was inspired by (the Andes plane crash 1972), the survivors had much less food and a more rudimentary shelter and two of them hiked through the snowy mountains for ca. 10 days with only enough food (frozen human flesh btw) for half that time to get help after starving for ca. 2 months and surviving two avanlanches. And they actually made it. While none of them had lost a limb and the total time they were starving was shorter, they also didn't have a real shelter with fire, a summer with enough food, and had a much harsher terrain to navigate. Since I found out about that, I'm willing to believe a lot is actually possible. Although of course Ben's survival and agility is still a huge stretch
Yo, this show is just Lord of the Flies.
It definitely shared a lot of themes with it 😅 I think it was an explicit inspiration
omg I had no idea who Van was, I love santa clarita diet
I'm still so sad it was canceled 😭
@@renrants my heart dropped bc I thought you meant yellowjackets hahahaha. and me too :(( it was so good
@grlfromvenus omg sorry 🤣😭
I still don't get why Netflix is so bad at giving their shows a chance, or at least a real ending 😭 like stop letting the writers write cliffhangers if you're go a cancel half the shows
If you have an Nvidia RTX card, you can use it to have your eyes look at the camera, instead of off to the script.
Which is quite distracting.
Excellent video, BTW.
Thank you, I do have Nvidia on my desktop, but I film my videos on my phone. Unfortunately, the setup just is the way it is right now, as I can't afford a more professional prompter setup yet, hopefully down the line though
Did your post get removed from that other website?
Which one? I think I posted it in a couple Facebook groups and on reddit
The YJ sub on Red it.
On a side note, I tried replying to your comment on my other comment but it looks like YT is not allowing it. Were you able to see the comment, I tried 3 times. Just weird that they are being hidden.
It looks like it's still up on reddit!
I think I saw and replied to all your comments, but CZcams does funky things with the notifications and stuff on my end too
My bad if it is still up. Only asked because the mods of that sub are removing a lot of posts for weak reasons these days.
The last comment I sent was about how I believe cabin guy in the attic was ended by someone and not self ended. Maybe its the wording I used to describe that situation that was the cause of the comment being hidden.
@thisone. No worries, it's worth asking about!
That's a fascinating theory, especially with what Lottie said about using the symbol for protection.
Allegedly we're supposed to get a bonus episode that tells us more about cabin guy, I hope that's still happening
I personally think Ben was actually trying to burn down the meat shed and accidentally set the cabin on fire 🔥 in the process!
That's an interesting possibility!
Yellowjackets reminds me of yellow wrasp that stings
I think that's exactly why they chose that mascot
Great Video! but OMG i just need to mention how you look a LOT LIKE SHAUNA
Haha thank you! :)
Watch society of the snow, it’s loosely inspired by this real life event.
I'll check it out! Ask A Mortician did a great video on it
Op reminds me of young Shauna
You're not the first to say, haha 😅
I grew up in the country and rats are very good swimmers and can get out of a pool, so I never got the connection Misty was watching a rat drown. I thought maybe Misty saw herself as the rat. Misty at the keg party I never got. I find it weak writing. You say you think Misty there is foreshadowing. You think is a good phrase…that scene is extremely vague. But the first time I watched the pilot, I thought Nat was having memories of what people call the “cannibal council”. I thought it was a flashback Nat was having so it is cool you made that connection too. I guess if they split into warring tribes…I think it will be the believers vs the skeptics in regards to the Wilderness.
Allegedly they can't easily get out of pools and drowning in them is pretty common, but they can tread water for as much as three days.
(I googled it, I also grew up in the country, but we didn't have a pool, so I can't speak form experience 😅)
The Misty foreshadowing has been confirmed by the writers, as far as I know, at least as far as being a spectre of death for Natalie, but it was definitely vague at the time.
Nat is having flashbacks during the therapy scene, but during the party scene those are flash forwards
@@renrantsSo, do you think Nat is having a flash forward of the cannibal council then? To me, it would make a lot more sense for her to see Misty then get a flash of cannibalism. Her just seeing Misty isn’t enough for me personality to think, “wow, that was really great writing”. I know others might debate me on this point, but I guess maybe if she was wearing heliotrope or had a syringe in her hand…Misty just standing there doesn’t really do it for me. On a separate note, I heard the writers were bringing back a pilot character and I was really hoping it was Nat’s “show me your tits” friend that is in this LSD scene. I am curious what happened to him, not so much Allie. :/
@@renrants I guess my pool was unique because rats crawled out of ours regularly. I feel if they can crawl up a toilet, they can navigate a pool. :) Now that I think about it, we had a rope with floating type things on it…they were blue and water and so was the rope…and it separated the shallow from deep ends…they probably used that to get out. I don’t know if you got that Reddit link but that rat almost dove into the pool, swan across and easily got out. So, it is just very hard for me to imagine the rat drowning.
I don't think Nat actually sees the flash forward to the Wilderness, that's for us, although she might be having a flashback in the therapy scene as an adult.
I don't think the flashback of Misty alone would be great writing for me, it's combined with all of the other little things, like the kitty motif we see her wear because she stalks prey and toys with it like a cat. There's an intentionality to all of that the I really appreciate, if that makes sense. Just like the match cuts between Nat, Misty, and the wilderness scene in the Pilot
You had some great points, found the whole video very interesting, so much so I bought a subscription just so I could watch the show. Small presentation tip, maybe put your notes above or below the camera and not to the side so you're not always looking off to one side when talking. Also Heliotrope can make a purple dye, but it's not Heliotrope in color and not the plant you showed pictures of, that is the one the color is named after but Salt Heliotrope is the one that makes dyes and is used in healing and is white in color. A totally irrelevant side bar I know which changes nothing about the plot or the meaning of it in the world of the show.
But like what do you look like young shauna
I've gotten that a lot both on this video and irl from a couple friends 🤣 although I'm almost definitely older than Sophie Nelisse so really she looks like me 😎😅
hot take: Theres no supernatural element i think it's a wrap of many metaphors. But whats relevant is that they believe theres a supernatural element, specifically lottie because she's off her meds and no longer needing to mask, and almost everyone takes her seriously.
also fuck jeff all my homies hate jeff, he should have known better than to marry a girl who clearly didnt like him as a person and was just using him to punish herself, but thats an aside.
When it comes to nat, she's NOT the antler queen. i know it seems that way, but all she's really been crowned as is the Leader, and Leader is notably distinct from antler queen, a role that hasnt been properly invented yet and in the script is referred to as shaman or oracle, neither of which fit nats role in the group (but it does fit lotties), i think people are jumping the gun here and its way too early into their wilderness time to say that the current "Leader" is going to become the oracle/shaman that sanctifies their cannibalistic feasts. That being said, her fate definitely is foreshadowed, i just dont think it's emotionally satisfying for her to die at this point, mainly due to the issues with the adult timeline in season 2, but i do think that her dying during the shows run was an inevitability.
okay... did anyone else kinda maybe ish wanna start a cult in the wood after this show- or am i just insane?
It sure sounds better than living under capitalism, just need to have the preparedness to not need to resort to cannibalism 😂😎
S1 is amazing, so so good. But S2 seems to be written by other people, because the quality just droped.
What did you think was different on terms of the quality?
Personally, i wish s2 was more satanic, i think whatever burned the cabin was the entity that burned the bear, the thing that didnt want her to leave and the thing that wants ben gone.
Did the plane crash into wendigo territory?
Misty’s best friends have the same kill rate as Jesse Pinkman’s girlfriends it seems…. 😢
Truly 😭
Not every CZcamsr manages to not just put a spoiler in the title, but make the title the defining spoiler of the whole series, open for everyone to see who gets this video in his recommendations. Bravo.
I don't think it's a spoiler, to know the quote in the title you have to have seen the episode already, the quote on its own doesn't give much away unless you Google it or something, which at that point isn't on me.
hey i like this video and i can tell i would really like your acc just from this video alone but i have some advice you didnt ask for but i thought i would put out there! maybe before showing something violent or bloody give us a warning or blur it out anyway you could if thats an option. again i really like this video!!
Hi there! Thank you so much for your kind words :)
I did include a content warning at the start of the video, but I'll be sure to keep that in mind when handling graphic subject matter in the future ❤️
Is anyone talking about how autistic coded misty is?
As a neurospicy little guy I'll definitely bring it up when I get to the Misty video ❤️ because you're so right!
Yellowjackets fell off so bad season 2. Especially with the current day plot.
How do you think it feel off? I've seen this complaint before so I'm curious what turned you off season 2
I don't care about the adult storyline without Natalie.
Sorry but it's true.
That's fair, she's the best 😭
Season one was so good, season two was wack I know it'll keep getting worse just to keep it longer than it should be
Dude, going from someone who is goth distains authority to growing to an adult who wants to be different and save people and do good is definetly a glow up, he saw hatred and violence and strived fight and improve the system from within. We need law enforcement and public servants to fix the problem and shitting on positive law enforcement charectors makes you part of the problem.
Respectfully, even good cops are working within a corrupt system. Disdaining authority in a system where people of color are regularly murdered by police, and where police often act as a militarized arm of the state to quell dissent like protests and marches with violence and arrests, is a good thing.
I'd love to exist in a world where cops are public servants who genuinely help people, but the reality is that they often hurt the people they're supposed to protect. For example, there are many cases where vulnerable women sought help from police due to sexual assault and were assaulted again by the police. Police are more likely to commit domestic violence and less likely to be punished for it.
Police often arrest innocent people even when they know the evidence isn't good just to solve the case on paper.
Additionally, thanks to some supreme court rulings they are not obligated to know the law and they are not actually obligated to help you when you call. (the case that established that involved police letting trapped children drown in a vehicle and another one where they refused to enforce a restraining order and a domestic abuser kidnapped and murdered his three children.) even more concerning, when police are disciplined for excessive force or even just committing crimes like domestic violence, theft, etc. IF they punished at all or terminated, they can generally just go to another precinct.
While individual officers may be well meaning, they rarely do anything to intervene when other officers do wrong, and if they do, they're driven out.
Finally, American policing actually arose out of slave catching patrols. Many of the laws used to harass Black people were established after emancipation to force freed slaves back into servitude.
The entire system is rotten to its core and needs to be dismantled. I am happy to provide reputable citations for any of the things I have discussed if you want to learn more.
Sometimes I think it's just a faze we go through. Obviously not all!
Why is there a season 3? I thought this show ran its course in season 1. The ending of season 1 was ridiculous. I found season 2 unwatchable but I did like the ending. Season 3? Why?
There's so much more to explore, the rest of their descent into the cannibal cult, the immediate aftermath of their rescue, what the "man with no eyes" and Taissa's "other" are whether there actually is anything supernatural about the wilderness or it's just the girls trying to cope with their harsh conditions, the impact of Nat's death on the survivors, etc.
If you didn't like the show from the start I can see the confusion, but for those of us who enjoyed it, there's a lot more story to tell. We don't even know who pit girl is yet!
hey just cause you don't like something doesn't mean it's bad, or that it should end
i don't see what is realistic about this series : plane crash near a lush cabin, mint conditions, big enough for all of them to crash, in 19 months this cabin has no visitors, duh;
they have no food, hence the c?nn?b?l?sm, the ch?ld s?cr?f,c?, but they still have their hair done, nice clothing, make-up;
they should look like annor?x?c girls with haggard eyes, going mad with unbearable hunger, having brain fog, they would not have the energy for drama, let alone a babyshower, they would not be able to go out a whole day for hunting, nor would they be able to chop wood to keep the cabin warm, cold wood does not burn and heat up a cabin, it produces smoke is all, when they decide one of them is going to be next as their dinner, the girl get a head start as if they would have the energy for all this DUH
Well, if you believe the supernatural element is real, it's more like whatever is in the Wilderness made their plane crash there, but honestly, I've spent a lot of time camping on the Canadian wilderness and there are remote cabins out there.
The cabin has no visitors because the man who owned the cabin died there. It's possible he was the only one who knew about it.
I'd argue as the series goes on their clothes have become a lot more ragged and makeshift. Natalie's hair has huge roots, Tai chopped hers off, etc. They have makeup for the same reason they had dresses, there was probably a formal dinner or something for nationals that they packed for, so they have whatever they had in their suitcases
I think they do a good job making the girls look hungry but you can only make actors look so gaunt without forcing them to do dangerous and unhealthy weight loss, which isn't something I think is a good thing to do for a TV show.
If you think the supernatural element isn't real, it's arguably the result of the girls' starvation hallucinations
never talked about the supernatural element, i talk about their energy levels that are unreal and hunger makes you lose your mind while they plan babyshowers and gifts, also if the man died he surely had no family and the cabin wasn't registered lol, you can make the girls look worse but than the public wouldn't really identify with them,
i guess
Again, it's totally possible that he was a solitary man without any family, or that he was estranged from his family, or they didn't know about the cabin. The only way to reach it was seemingly by plane, so unless they're also pilots who have their own plane, they'd have to charter a plane to get to it. Lots of people build completely unregistered cabins out in the woods. It's technically illegal, but there's not really anyone checking
I agree their energy levels are unrealistic, but it's a TV show. It would be pretty boring to watch them all just lie around and starve. Sometimes total realism doesn't actually make for a good story 😅
it is not that, it is that they use the excuse of insane hunger to preach c?nnib?lism that they than go to film as a ritualistic feast, they could have just used the supernatural element to justify it, they don't eat that girl out of hunger, they feast upon her, they celebrate c...ism, this is dangerous programming, their next victim is a child for crying out loud, these things linger in people's minds, the supernatural element is just there to smooth things over, but then again young people are obsessed with zombies too
Yall, I think this show might be straight-up bad... why are we watching it ;_; It's so badly written and doesn't make any sense but I still watch it because I like the cast..
I think it's pretty detailed and well-thought out so far, what aspects of the writing do you think are bad? 😅
Was it the "high-calorie butt meat?"
The first season was one of the best seasons of TV I have ever seen. The second had problems but I will still watch season three. It could have been a sophomore slump…but it had its good parts like adult Caligula and Nat/Lisa, etc.
You look so familiar. Were you in Weird Hill?
Oh wow, I totally was 🤣 small world
@@renrantsMay I ask what Weird Hill is?