First time hearing BTS - Rocker Reacts: "Black Swan"
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- They're a worldwide sensation, yet somehow I've never heard a single song of theirs! 😱 At least, I don't THINK I've heard them…
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00:00 - Teaser
00:04 - Intro
00:46 - Before We Rock…
01:23 - Song
12:15 - Review
14:38 - Shameless Self-Promotion
15:14 - End Screen
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#reaction #BTS #BTSarmy - Hudba
What’s up BTS Army? Welcome to the channel! Before you comment, I have just a couple addendums to the video:
1 - I will be returning for more BTS every 8 weeks. My channel explores 7 different genres, and I’ve decided to add BTS as their own 8th category. I know that’s a long time for you to wait, but I hope you’ll consider subscribing and listening to the other songs with me in the meantime.
2 - There have been many misinterpretations of my video, so I want to clarify that I am not a regular reactor, nor a music theory instructor, but somewhere in between. My goal is to find what rocks in every genre, and discuss what I hear. I talk a lot about autotune in this video (because that’s what stood out to me at the time), but I did not dislike the song. Quite the opposite! I am very excited to see what else BTS has to offer. 😊
3 - I know I skipped over the lyrics. Hundreds of you have told me so, haha! I’ll focus harder on them in the next one. 😉 See you there?
I replied earlier, but I’ll put it here too. I’m excited to see what you explore next with BTS. There IS a reason they have the support they do, and it’s cool to see people find out why. I loved your informed and respectfully honesty opinions. People use them and ARMY sometimes for their own gain and it’s sad. So when people are honest, we know we can trust them while we watch them explore their art. Thank you! 💜 Also, the majority of ARMY are of similar thinking, so I hope the ‘fans’ that are rude won’t deter you. They exist, but they aren’t the majority.
You were so far off what this video has to offer, I won’t be tuning back in.
I think you should try a live performance to hear his voices without effects. I recommend you their Room Live from 2021 Festa (a mix from bside tracks) or another live performance because they are amazing performers and sound better live imo.
I want honest reactions, but you didn't put any real effort into seeing the big picture and artistic beauty that Black Swan has to offer. You need to learn more about them, their journey, and discography. They are a global phenomenon for a reason.
How dare me! Can’t believe I didn’t know everything there is to know about the artist on my first listen. The nerve! 😆
The use of autotune was very deliberate in this piece, it’s intended to compress their individual timbres to a singular voice. They’re essentially playing a single character ‘the artist’, who is struggling with their Jungian ‘shadow’, the fear of losing their love for their art.
The costume switches are also a deliberate part of the storytelling, not just aesthetics, To begin with they’re in white with a touch of black/shadow when performing on stage and in black (shadowed) when offstage. By the end they’re fully shadowed even when on stage.
You missed the depth of the lyrics and performance because you’re approaching a psychological artwork without quite a lot of background knowledge (not your fault) and a somewhat superficial set of expectations of what ‘boyband’ music should be.
BTS are really not a boy band in the sense of a western manufactured pop group. Best to avoid trying to make those comparisons. It’s probably more useful to think of them as a performance art group combining music, dance, acting, visuals and fashion/costume to tell stories and explore themselves as developing humans through ideas, art, culture, philosophy, psychology, history and a questioning of society and their place within it.
Okay, now that’s a deep level of art that I can get behind.
Thank you.
Also, the parallel between the movie and this MV and song is intentional as well.
@@MidnightNotion what caught my attention with bts is how they build everything around the message they wanted to send out. the music, the art, the visual, the dance, the lyrics, the whole album - it all connects to the story or message they are telling. There's so much psychological and emotional intelligence that is weaved into the presentation of the message got me too.
They believe that the music people listen to have the power to influence and impact one's life and psyche, thus they are intentional. that started me off this journey anyway :)
Great explanation! I do feel like people miss the depth and complexity of their music and mvs sometimes because they come with western expectations and/or prejudices against boyband stereotypes
Thanks for your honest reaction. You'll find that most ARMY appreciate that type of review over the faked enthusiasm some reactors post. When BTS use autotune in their studio versions and in the MVs, it's a stylistic choice. This is why many people much prefer their live versions. They are amazing performers. I hope you continue to listen to them. Their discography is huge and they sing about topics that most shy away from. And as for the switch back and forth from white to black clothes? It has everything to do with the music. Put the captions on and you'll understand it's about their fear of losing their passion for music and performing.
Wow. Ouch. I didn’t know critical analysis was considered “nagging.” 🤷♂️
I hope you don’t dismiss me simply because I’m a man-my dream is to push back against toxic masculinity. I’m here to help, not to harm.
@@soniap1217 Ah, I see what happened: you wrote "men… to much nagging....," and I thought you were saying "men nag too much." I think you were trying to say "man" as a filler word, not as a noun.
Either way, it sounds like you have some unchecked anger in your heart. I hope whatever is bothering you resolves itself soon.
When someone has a different opinion, they don’t accuse the other person of nagging. The proper discourse is to say “I disagree because,” not “you are wrong/bad/naggy/etc.” You focused your opinion on me, as a person, not on my views or on the subject of the video. That is not feedback, it’s an attack, and only someone with unchecked anger in their hearts could be so aggressive with someone they’ve never met.
Still trolling. Guess it’s time to use the block button. 🤷♂️
@@MidnightNotion"... and only someone with unchecked anger in their hearts could be so aggressive with someone they’ve never met."
These last words define what BTS has suffered since their debut in 2013, and the way they fought everything and everyone was turning that pain into music. That's how it happened to me and I believe most ARMYs, who felt comforted, confident, hopeful and loved by seven young men.
I'll leave the rest of ARMY commenting to give you details, but I thought I'd suggest their FESTA Room Live video. It's a 10ish minute live medley (live vocals, music track) that includes a short sample of tracks from each of their main albums. It's a good example of how versatile they are while giving you an idea of their personalities. For a lot of us, it's not just the music but the people. BTS is made up of 7 truly great humans who have given ARMY a lot of positivity in our lives. czcams.com/video/RRhjdYsNwAk/video.html
Yes to the festa!
I agree with The Festa.
1 song from each year from 2013-2021. All b-sides. You’ll see their range and versatility and their personalities.
Yes that would be great to react to!
yessss
If you want to hear them live singing please do react to BTS room live FESTA 2021. Thy sing live and medly of their songs
2nd suggest this. 💜
That and Proof live are both good!
Sadly you did not read the lyrics which is half of what makes there music so great. There live performances are also the best. They have over 350+ songs in every genre you can think of. Why not watch thier tiny desk live performance that might be more your style.
The ONE TIME I skip a lyrical analysis, because everyone says my videos are too long, just happens to be the time when I should have. 😂 🤦♂️
@@MidnightNotion for further reference if you react to more BTS. We appreciate the analysis and deep dives into lyrics, cinematography ECT.
@@MidnightNotion when it comes to BTS, we don't mind long videos...seriously, an hour flies by quickly
@@MidnightNotion ARMY doesn't care how long your videos are - we're down for it :)
Noted! 😉
if you want to hear their voices I would recommend "film out" live, the live is fantastic.
Lots of people are recommending live stuff. I guess I’ll have to come back to them again soon! I like to cycle through genres, but I’ll make BTS its own thing, just for all the wonderful people commenting.
@@MidnightNotion Thank you
@@MidnightNotion hi, just to say, you can very well do only BTS and you will still be cycling through the genres LOL, their discography is impressively diverse....I can imagine Lie, then Baepsae then Thruth untold, then UGH, then Idol and ON and I could keep going ...and you still will not have two similar songs following one after another for quite a some time :-)
I COULD do that… Or I could test the BTS fans who are new here to see if they REALLY like every genre. 😉
This channel is all about exploring music, so please come along with me. I’m not going to base my channel around a single group or musician (besides myself), but I promise there will be more BTS to come.
@@MidnightNotion whoops I didn´t formulate that correctly, I just meant that ASIDE from doing your usual thing, with BTS you will still get the cycling through the genres whether you want it or not 🙂 sorry English is not my first language, sometimes I don´t make myself clear enough.
I really DO hope you will continue on your BTS exploration journey, though....
I am pretty sure that most Armys have a pretty wide range of genres they enjoy. It is my fav thing, going through comments sections and finding all sorts of backgrounds, from metalheads, to rap fans, R&B, EDM fans etc...it is all-encompassing and it makes me happy
bts are so popular because they tick every box for most people: catchy songs in every genre, poetic and relatable lyrics written by the members, amazing performances, and a lot of extra content that lets people learn about their personalities. If you're solely a person who connects with the audible listening experience when it comes to music it may be a bit more difficult to pin down which songs you may like out of their discography. My recommendation is to watch their recent "Proof Live" show as many fans would probably agree that you can get a real feel of their passion when live. The full version included 3 songs off their anthology album - Born Singer, Yet to Come and For Youth (there is a talking portion in the middle that you can either skip or watch haha)
Proof live is a good start to discovering who they are. Just by the law of numbers millions and millions of people wouldn't be their fans without all the boxes that they check. They're extremely talented in singing, producing, visual arts, layering lyrics, aesthetics, and crazy trap like beats on some of their songs. I'm from Detroit and Big Hit(their label) reminds me a lot of early days Motown and how they got started. These boys are the real real and they are definitely invited to the cookout. 😏
Yes to Proof live! 💜
@@melgaye0 and rapping too... All while doing elite choreo :)
Thank you for this reaction! I'm an ARMY, and I know that you'll probably receive a lot of rude comments from people who wanted a more positive reaction, but I think the genuine fans will really appreciate this! What we're looking for is people who go into BTS with an open mind and stay honest and respectful, and you were great! I understand how you feel about the autotune, and I'd just like to clarify that it's being used as an artistic device here. If you take a closer look at the lyrics, you'll see that this is a song about BTS's fear of losing their passion for music, so the monotone-y autotune was actually a really clever way of expressing that in the sound of the song! The lyrics are really deep, and that's true for all of their songs; one of the many, MANY reasons that ARMY loves BTS is that their lyrics are expressive, relatable, poetic, and always have a deeper meaning. If you want to see a live version of this SPECIFIC song to get a sense of how it sounds without the studio autotune, they did a fantastic performance of it on the Jimmy Fallon show, and it also really showcases the choreography! If you'd like to explore their other music, I'd suggest the Festa Live Room 2021. It's a ten-minute medley of some of their b-sides, and it's a fantastic display of their versatility and just how much they're capable of conquering genres! It's also produced specifically for their fans (unlike an award show, for example), so they're very comfortable and you get to see a bit of their personalities. Again, thank you so much for your genuine reaction: everything that you said was reasonable and thoughtful, and you were very kind about it, so thank you! I'd really love to see you continue to explore BTS and hopefully come to understand why they mean so much to so many people. Have a great day! 💜
Thank you so much for this. I definitely thought I was being fun and reasonable, but many had major problems with me. People gonna people, I guess. 🤷♂️
Anywho, welcome to the channel. I’ll be back to BTS soon enough.
Unfortunately it goes both ways too, where the media sometimes knows it's better clickbait to say something based on a stereotype about Army, being unreasonable in whatever way. When often people are completely incorrect and uninformed about BTS and make an incorrect or unfair statement, and given everything they are up against, when fans correct them it's labeled as something it's not...
Apart from everything else the comments explained to you, I would also strongly recommend using good headphones when listening to BTS. Their production is extremely complex, with lots of layers you would miss without good headphones. Every little detail about BTS' art is intentional and is part of a narrative they tell. That goes for the production as well.
Most of the times the harmonies done by all 7 members in ON,Black Swan are mistaken as autotune too
@@rikhmjustsomeguywithmousta4971 In general I think they use a lot less autone than a lot of people - also some fans - think. When they use it it is to create a certain effect, like in Black Swan, as others explained. Their vocal skills are so excellent that people sometimes mistake them for autotune...
I'm sorry but wasn't friends a duet between V and Jimin? I'm pretty sure that it was so why not give these songs as winter bear and singularity!
Thanks for listening to something outside your usual zone. I get that you're a musician so musicality is what you focus on, but one thing BTS is known and loved for are their lyrics - I'm not exactly sure why you completely overlooked what is being said in the song, it's a deeply personal reflection of something the group experienced that they articulated based on a quote from famous dancer Martha Graham....For me, as a 53-y.o. Texan with a lifelong love of 80s BritPop (Tears for fears, psychedelic furs, The Cure) and then alternative rock in the 90s and 00s - BTS stands out as an entire package of talent NOBODY has matched in the west. Who else combines multiple music genres, rap, vocals, professional-level dance talent, and unique live performances all in one?? Personally I barely even notice auto-tune, because I'm so familiar with their voices, and electronic music is never anything I turned my nose up at (so much BritPop was 100% synth-driven).... That's fine if you feel a sense of purity within music with real instruments, but I have never really limited myself like that so I have to admit I don't really understand people who do. I sincerely hope you continue your exploration of BTS' music and that you find something that you can connect to and appreciate. But if you don't, that's ok too! My dislike of death metal has zero effect on the integrity of it as a music genre to its fans, and if you end up not liking BTS, it is not the end of the world!
I am with when not noticing the auto-tune in Black Swan all that much. I too could hear every member's voice and distinguish them... I thought I was the only one that felt this...
Well said Amy, I too am an older fan and really appreciate their breadth of musicality. Stunning really.
The bar is set so high because people especially reactors and interviewers sometimes 'hype' bts so much that others are finding it so weird, if you do that, this is what you get. The full experience can be found on the lyrics, music, mv & live performance (singing & dancing) + their personalities. The fans arw captivated with BTS as a while. It's all connected, including the fictional storyline.
As for me it's not that i heard one song i become a fan already. My daughter, some relatives and some friends love them for years but i never gabe them any chances not until something about them made me interested to check them out. Then that's it, i started my journey with open mind, i tried watching MVs, okay, i started rrading the oyrics, oh wow, i started watching introductions, makes sense, i startwd watching run bts, ok im def an Army. Some might love them instantly but for me it's a journey.
This is not really the song that you should begin with. Not your fault, I realize. BTS’ albums are thematic and Black Swan is smack in the middle of the Map of the Soul album series. To fully understand the song, you have to understand the psychological concepts by Carl Jung. The dancer, Martha Graham, is also a huge influence on the meaning behind the song. I’m not really a fan of autotune either, but for this song it helps us grasp where they are going with the song. They are afraid that music will no longer move them. The autotune demonstrates that lack of passion. The shadows signify their doubts and fears. Again, the fear of losing that passion for music. Everything BTS does is intentional. Every movement, visual, lyric, composition. THAT, my friend, is why people everywhere love them.
Martha Graham once said; The day a dancer realizes they can no longer dance is the first day of their first death, ( paraphrase). I think it might be like that for all performers who love their craft, no matter what it may be?
Great explanation @SusanGrayson. Oh; it also helps new army to know that RM ( Namjoon, has a IQ of 148, reads philosophers, studies art, and is constantly looking for ways to better understand people, and life. His lyrics are genius.)
yeah i agree
Thiiiiis 💯
I recommend watching Proof Live where BTS sings 3 songs live if you're looking for the live performance feel.
I respect your honesty i like that in reactors and you did it respectfully!! I get what ur tying to say. Bts stands out to me is that they do not do only one genre. They literally do everything, and i mean like every genre!! I also love their lyrics it’s really meaningful most of the time (about self love, social injustices, mental health and all the important stuff that is not often talked about). You should read the lyrics, this song was about their fear of loosing their passion for music. I myself really liked the song. But also i don’t really mind the autotune. They do have great voices they often sing live (while dancing!! Really hard and impressive) and the youngest, jungkook, often goes live for army and sings his favorite songs with or without music.
I recommend RUN BTS (not RUN thats also a song but a different one). For a bit slower song but really beautiful lyrics I’d recommend the truth untold (sung by only 4 of the 7 members)
I also really liked louder than bombs!!
Would love to see you react to other stuff of bts!! Their live performances are immaculate. I’ve never seen artists with that much stage presence!!
Keep going ur doing great💜💜
They’re also do a lot of stuff aside their music which gives us armys to get to know their personalities. The love and respect they have for each other is so wholesome and sincere (mostly bc they have been living together for 9/10 years if i’m correct)
Their variety show called RUN BTS (yes they also have a song called RUN BTS) is my fave.
Here they do different challenges and games. It’s really fun!
Now I’m regretting not reading the lyrics closer-those are all topics I am very supportive of. I used to dissect as much as I possibly could, but I’m trying to keep my videos shorter.
Knowing now how important the lyrics are, I’ll have to try again. Maybe with RUN BTS.
(I have a similar problem with titles, where I have a song, album, and podcast called “Somewhere in Dreamworld.” Accidentally made it harder for myself to differentiate between them-whoopsie! 😆 )
@@MidnightNotion ARMYs love lyrical analysis and long videos 💜
@@WhalienDNA right💜
@@MidnightNotion Please know that longer and more in depth videos is what Army love to see, so don't worry about that. The music and lyrics and performance are all inextricably linked and go far deeper than you may expect so don't worry about getting deep into it. Then you'll gain an understanding of why they are so loved and respected by fans
BTS are the biggest boy group in the world with most awards 787 awards,2 Grammy nominations.
All members are certified songwriters, composers and producers.
The autotune is stylistic choice here, especially the rapline uses it most. React to BTS Black Swan Live performance.
Bts has one of the best vocal ,dance lines, best rapline from kpop. BTS rarely talks about love but about passion in making music, haters, fan love.
Black Swan is about losing passion in music, hope you will re read lyrics
Songs I think are unique, some as a group and some are solo work: Interlude: Shadow, 134340, MORE, Lie, Outro: Tear, Dionysus, Singularity, ON, Idol, everythingoes. I would also recommend the use of headphones or a good set of monitors (if you aren't already) because sometimes they play with layering and location and some of their songs are a different song when heard with good equipment
Thank you for the suggestions. Just off-camera, I have a production desk with some nice speakers, and I’m trained enough in audio production to catch what I need to for now.
@@MidnightNotion great! They have a lot for you to discover!
Dionysus is one of my favs, is a such unique song
The boys in BTS cover literally every genre in their music & don't let your ears deceive you, in 99% of their songs they like to maintain a mix between real instruments & digital. Their lyrics, dance & visuals are always deliberate. Working together to tell a story. In their video Blood Sweat & Tears even the small design on the wallpaper was intentional. To get a good idea of the scope of their range I recommend BTS Festa Room live 2021. It's a compilation of several of their songs from 2013 to 2021
The men, in BTS. They are no longer a boy band.
@@LPnerd Yeah, I know they're all grown up now. My daughter is almost exactly Jimin's age. (Born the day after) and it's hard for me to admit she's grown
Bts stands out because of its lyrics mostly, they don’t sing about love(they do but rarely). Black Swan is about losing passion in music.
It would be great if you see the lyrics too.
they definetely do sing about love
-self love at the least.
and there's nothing wrong about it
there are a lot of different types of love you know
@@myhopeisjhope8315bts는.. 보통, 다른 가수들이 노래하는 사랑 ( 이성적인 사랑을 보편적으로 노래하죠)이나 이별에 관한 노래를 하는 단순한 가수가 아니라는거죠. 모든 노래에 메세지를 담고 있고, 공감과 위로, 감동을 주는 노래를 하는 bts를 너무 사랑합니다.
I think romance is what you mean here, since love is very broad
Dep breath. I will try to keep this short. I am a 69.5 years old American. I saw the Beatles debut on the Ed Sullivan Show on a black & white TV. I am a fan of several genres. The Stones, Jethro Tull, Wynton Marsalis, The Doors, Simon & Garfunkel, Alabama, The Beach Boys, Carly Simon, Garth Brooks...you get the idea. I have never loved a group like I love BTS. They are very different. What sets them apart is not necessarily their music, although I agree with all comments praising their lyrics. It is their humanity. Their goodness. Their genuine personalities which they willingly expose to the world. Their generosity. Their humbleness. They have addressed the UN General Asssembly three times. They have diplomatic passports. They were invited to speak at the White House. THAT is BTS. Nothing short of a phenomenon. They love each other & they love their fans. I am proud to be a silver ARMY.
Agree. While they have many aspects that makes fans love them, beyond everything else, I think most deep purple armies are in it bc of their PERSON, their humanity as you said. Sometimes I step back from it all, look inwards, and felt a kind of observant of their existence in this world society, the effects they bring and brought and still bringing. It made me think I need to live a long life in order to see where they go in the future. I don't want to miss out on their ending! (But I am mid-40s already, so for sure I will go first, but I at least get to see them grow up! We've gone thru their teens and 20s now... looking forward to their 30s and 40s... and if lucky for me their 50s? Haha...
If you want to hear them with no auto tune to get a better listen at them as artist, I suggest watching them in "Tiny Desk" they perform live and with a band. You can see a bit more of their personality's along with hearing each members voice and unique style. No need to worry about how long your videos are, army will watch with you from start to finish! I've sat through reactions 5 hours long when it comes to BTS.
Yeah long reactions are no problem, I actually prefer them. It is more in depth and interesting :)
Army is doing their thing and filling you in - I just wanted to echo the recommendations of Festa Room Live and NPR Tiny Desk next. That should give you what you’re missing. And def take the time to read the lyrics to their songs - it’s one of the reasons why they’ve made such a profound mark on the world. Their messages have always been deep and meaningful. Don’t skip out on that part.
Thx for reacting to them! They’re the best!
Thank you very much for reacting to BTS, they are a band made up of 4 vocalists and 3 rappers; they have 3 songs in English that are pop; which for sure were the ones you heard, they brought it out in the pandemic to encourage everyone who listens to them because of the terrible situation that has happened because of COVID-19. However they have a wide variety of genres and individual music; they have over 300 songs; so there is surely one that you will like depending on your tastes; they have ballads; Pop, Latin pop, Hip-Hop, Electronica, R&B, New Wave, Electronica, R&B, New Wave, Rock, Classical, Reggae, Gospel and more.
-GROUP: Save Me, I Need U, Dope, Baepsae, Best of Me, Not today; Make it right, So what, Fake love; Mic Drop
-INDIVIDUAL:
V:Stigma,Friends
Jimin: Lie, Filter
Jin:Epiphany
Suga: Agust D, Daechwita
Jungkook:Still with you; My time
J-Hope:Chicken Noodle Soup, More
RM:Intro: Persona, Joke
Please react to BTS's Let go, it's live, and you might like it.
Link: czcams.com/video/HEN7Xwoxz5c/video.html
Thanks for the suggestions! I’ll definitely do more BTS! I like to cycle through genres, but I’ll be back to them in a few weeks, for sure!
first of all friends is sung by both v and jimin so it isnt a solo.
second, why would you recommend just one seokjin solo?
i want to add yours and awake to the recommended solos by him.
Jin: Abyss
30 seconds into this and I knew where the comments section was going to go. I highly recommend their tiny desk performance if you want to hear them live and with a band. To understand why BTS is so popular is a very complicated thing to explain. It's different for every person. They have lived the last 9 years of their lives almost entirely in front of a camera sharing their pains, struggles, failures, growth, successes and have done so in such an open and honest way that it's hard not to root for them and want to see and hear more. If you watch even 1 of their "come up story" videos you'll have a much better understanding of how hard they had to work to get to where they are today. I know many bands work hard but their story is profound and has touched many in a way that is hard to describe. They write and produce a large portion of their music and are highly involved in their performances. Nearly every song and video tells a story and the behind the scenes and dance practices are also worth a watch. They fill the world with so much positivity, love and light and while you'll hear plenty of hate spewed at these boys, you'll never hear a word of it coming from them. As a 50-something woman from the USA, these young men give me hope for our future as a society and I will be cheering them on through whatever they choose to do in the future. I enjoyed your review and appreciate trying something new. Honestly is always welcome! I really do hope you'll do more! Along with tiny desk, I'd suggest Mic Drop, Daechwita and Fake Love for a nice variety. 🙂
And On kinetic Manifesto Come Prima too. 😊
Thanks for giving them a chance. But please dont force yourself to love them. There is an Amry saying that BTS finds you when you need them the most. I really hope you get to discover their magic and that process will feed your soul just like what happened to each and every Army. Their music, artristry, passion, and values are what we hold dear and we are not merely fans we are an extension of their family. So, I apologize in advance because some Armys might come off strong but we have been strong believers of their art and what they represent. Again, thanks. Subscribing and looking forward to your bts reactions.
I like your honest reaction! Black Swan is a song that has quite a bit of auto tune giving that it is more hip hop oriented and less vocal oriented in my opinion. BTS have a lot of diversity in their music and there’s not a single genre they haven’t dipped their toes in at this point.
A lot of people come into BTS expecting a pop boy band with more good looks and less on the vocal ability. Their vocals in fact are one of the main reasons I became ARMY.
This song wasn’t a great representation of the amazing vocal skills they have.
BTS have 3 rappers and 4 outstanding vocalist and they all sound very unique! If you decide to listen to more music of theirs you’ll quickly be able to hear the diversity in their voices!
I would recommend Run BTS, the lyric video. Not to be confused by Run by BTS but - Run BTS by BTS.
That’s a lie! 🤣 I have yet to hear BTS do a country song. (Thank goodness!) and I don’t think they’ve done any real opera, even if there are clips of V singing opera backstage. But other than that, yeah, you’re right. They’ve done pretty much everything else with well over 300 songs in their collective discography.
If you like rock try:
Danger and then the Blue version.
Run BTS (not the variety show)
Fake Love with their rock version
And then try their real foundation, as they are a hip hop group with a pop influence:
Mic drop (Aoki version)
Ugh
Ddaeng
Outro tear (although May be too soon)
Live:
Festa 2021 Room
Proof live
And there’s a badass triplet of Come back home, no more dream (debut song) and mic drop.
Good luck.
I live for this recommendation. It's so good!
Black swan is one of the criminally underrated songs of BTS.. It's amazing how your reactions are honest.. and If you wanna know what truly makes bts special then you've gotta listen listen their raw vocals.. we have 4 really amazing vocalist and 3 insane rappers. I'm not exaggerating.. just do your own research and you'll find out ..
As you can see from all of the comments, there are a lot of things that go into how a BTS song sounds - talents of the group members, album theme, position of the song within the album, song genre, group/rap-line/vocal-line/solo song, Korean cultural influences, etc. If you are just listening to the music composition and production, then you'll only "get" a part of the song, which is fine. I appreciate that you were honest about what you heard.
For me, the lyrics are what I appreciate about their music. Having a bad day, then Zero O'Clock might be for you. Pissed off about the state of the world, then Am I Wrong or Ugh are what you need. Need to get hyped, then Fire or Dope might do it. Feeling like your kid thinks you're made of money, then play Spinebreaker. Need a good cry, The Truth Untold will do it. Need to feel like someone in the world cares about you, well, there are a lot of BTS songs for that.
But I also like that some of their songs have Korean references that foreigners have to work to understand and appreciate. They are, after all, Korean. (The string instrument you hear in Black Swan is supposed to be a gayageum - czcams.com/video/IbjkdQk_T5U/video.html, which reverberates like the autotuned voices and adds to the emo feel of the song.) The rap songs, in particular, have a lot of wordplay that uses cultural idioms and metaphors. Ddaeng is awesome, but you need to watch an explanation video to fully appreciate it. And as you noticed in Black Swan, the use of both Korean and English allows for some cool sound scapes and structures within the music.
And the MVs add a whole additional layer of complexity and storytelling to their music. So it can be a lot to try to take in the music, lyrics, and visuals all at once. But I hope you check out more of their music. There's usually something for everyone.
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I feel like "idol" is a song you wouldn't expect to sound the way it does 👀
BTS' versatility in their music is what stands out to me. The more you go down the BTS rabbit hole, you'll understand what we mean and by versatile I mean they are VERSATILE
In all honesty, I was very sad since I absolutely love this song. That being said, thank you for being honest and genuine…the vast majority of army will appreciate that the most(please don’t judge us on the handful of hatred you will probably find at some point, every fandom has some extreme members)…anyway, as I know you’ve been told- the lyrics are key, and we (army)will watch hours of breakdown if you’re genuine and respectful, which u were. Bts hits just about every genre. Their performances include many with heavy choreo, amazing vocals or straight rap etc…I have no doubt we can find a song you’d enjoy as auto tune here was a stylistic choice, not a necessity and def not something they use for everything. Imo everything they do is better live.
Your eyes tell- vocals, Japanese. Omg amazing vocals, but please watch the live….the studio version is great, but the live Is just better
Magic shop - my fav live that shows their bond with army
Armypedia or tiny desk are both great lives that have no audience, or choreo- just them sitting and singing.
Outro tear-includes only the 3 rappers- one of the 2 best songs i have ever seen live…again the live at wembley really showcases their emotion….and the other half of that- the truth untold -which includes only the 4 vocalists ( stage mix is great& easier on copyright)
Ok I will stop there as I’m sure you will get many suggestions and maybe you’re not interested in continuing that far….
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What makes bts stand out to me is their exploring with different types of music/genres, lyricism, their positive/ important messages through their music, unique voices, AMAZING stages, choreography and stage presens.They are funny, humble and really nice guys that connect with their fans. They are always grateful and expresses their love for army often. I seriously love and adore those guys so so much
Thanks for this honest reaction!! You were very respectful and I get where you are coming from. BTS actually really have nothing to do with the rest of Kpop groups or Western boybands and I believe this is a very important point to understand them and their music. They started as a hiphop group and are made out of 3 rappers (2 of them coming from the underground) and 4 vocalists. They take part in writting, composing and producing their own tracks. They are also really passionate about their craft and "Black Swan" was a song they made about their fear of not being excited about any song anymore, comparing that feeling to their first death. BTS really shine in live performances, so if you are up to it, great recommendations are "BTS Room Live" to to see how broad their range actually is, "House of Cards" live for the vocal line and "Outro:Tear" live at Wembley Stadium to see the rap line in their element. Also, please do turn on CC to read the subs, because they are a lirically outstanding group and to appreciate their songs you really need to know what they are saying. For other singles in different styles maybe try checking out later "I Need U", "Mic Drop (Steve Aoki)", "Young Forever", "Dope", "Butterfly" "Blood, Sweet and Tears", "Fake Love" or "On:Kinnetic Manifesto". They also have individual stuff since years back, but maybe we can recommend that later on 😉 Only thing we ask to anyone reacting is to keep an open mind and be respecful, that's It. Hope you enjoy the journey!!
One thing that really makes BTS stand out are their lyrics. For all international fans it's sometimes not easy to grab everything they're saying and so for some of their songs there are explanation videos, mostly made by Koreans, to explain Korean wordplay and cultural context.
If you are curious what I'm talking about, watch the rapline song called 'Ddaeng' and afterwards the DKDKTV explanation video.
Their popularity and the unwavering love ARMY has for BTS is something you will grow to unterstand if you choose to invest your time and get to know them as individuals and their different personalities. If you continue your journey you'll most likely at one point watch The Rise of Bangtan (a fan made documentary), Run BTS (the show, not the song), Bon Voyage and In the Soop... you'll learn about their way to where they are today, about their struggles and their achievments... and at one point you'll notice, that yes, you finally get it!
Oh, and don't worry about long videos... we're here for them.
As others have done, I too would recommend the 'BTS ROOM LIVE' from Festa 2021 - it's a medley of songs that contains tracks from when they first debuted up until 2021. The medley will give you a nice little taste test of some of their work.
Thank you for your honest thoughts. First exposure to BTS is always a hit or miss for non kpoppers, BTS covers so many genres of music that there is a possibility the first song you hear is not your cup of tea. However, people most definitely agree they are way better live. I see some people have recommended BTS Room Live, which is a good one. In addition to that, may I recommend some of their stadium concert clips? Some of my favorites are the Dionysus and Not Today Live performance czcams.com/video/aNu0DEWPuL0/video.html and their medley at Tokyo Dome czcams.com/video/eEZP8I0yP90/video.html. Best thing about their concerts - all the instruments are played by a live band. I really think you'll enjoy them.
With all due respect, If you want to hear their voices then watch live performances not an MV or listen to the studio version. It will also be great if you can try to understand the theme and the meaning of the song coz they don’t just sing pop songs, they are more than that. They can do various genres. Also, its fair to review the song that you listened/watched at the moment but not their entire music, voices or performance based on one MV. There’s a lot of content out there to review anyway. Thanks for the reaction though!
I love bts because of their discography. It has no skips(in my opinion ) and maybe i didn't listen to a lot of pop artists but their music doesn't sound like anything else to me-it does sound unique. They literally have songs to your every mood and in so many genres.
You probably won't get it if you just listened only to one song but their albums are amazing, they have interesting concepts and tell you a story. And one of the most important things is their lyrics. There are not so many artists or musicians who can move you/touch your heart but bts definitely can. Some of their songs destroyed me mentally but also healed me,being my light in the dark.I'm not even joking.
I appreciate your honest reaction. Music is subjective obviously so i totally understand if it's just not your cup of tea. But because you were asking why are they are so popular i decided to share my story.
Also they are insanely talented musians/vocalists/rappers/performers who absolutely love what they are doing and it shows.
This song was different for them, it’s something you would like after listening to a lot of their work because it was different than their past stuff. Watch Fake Love or Blood Sweat and Tears. Their lyrics are important because a large chunk of their work is based on literature, or psychology. A recent theme was Carl Jung and Black Swan was about befriending your shadow and also linked to a quote by Martha Graham.
Now you're the third new reactor i found today. Is it because of lolapalooza 😭😭. Glad that you want to check them up. Please try bts 2021 festa room live, you can hear them sing without any effect and it show diversity of their song. From all of the song in the video I'm sure some of it is your cup of tea😁💜
despite this not being your favourite song ever, this is one of my favourite bts reactions, from your open mindedness to your honesty, all your points and opinions are valid. you just gained a new sub. i personally don’t mind the auto tune, but i understand how people may not feel the same. i recommend checking out one of these- bts room festa live, film out music blood live, run bts, and for youth :)
also, bts has 3 rappers and 4 vocalists, and they all dance (and they dance and sing live in most performances which i’d love for you to check out)
I appreciate you saying so. Based on the overwhelming response to this video (especially the frustration that I skipped over the lyrics-whoops!), I’ll take it as high praise to be considered as one of your top BTS reactors. Inspires me to keep going (after a couple other genres first).
Thanks for subscribing! I hope you’ll like the other stuff on my channel as well!
@@MidnightNotion Haha don't feel too bad about the whole lyrics situation. Many reactors don't even turn on CC their first time. I think so many people are mentioning them because you seem like deep analysis type of person and it's always a treat when someone like that really delves in. Can't wait to see where your BTS journey takes you!
“It’s the same stuff over the 5/10 years “ well yea it’s a fairly older song that was produced around the time that type of music was made also
Touché. In the end, I never said it was bad, I guess I was just expecting something different. The Army has been QUITE informative about all the stuff I missed 😆
Like many others have pointed out...
Not reading bts lyrics (if songs in korean) is basically a crime... 😭
One another huge thing people aren't mentioning is the fact that bts are album artists.
Their albums are stories about themselves.
And it usually comes out in trilogies or duologies...
Map of the soul 7 which is the album black swan belongs to explores an artist's shadow and persona and ego based on carl jung.
Black swan is basically in the second part of the album and written by the leader of bts, it goes into what might be an artists biggest fear, which is loosing the passion for music.
So why did they use auto tune for such an important song in their career? They wanted to blend the 7 voices together, making it seem all 7 are one person.
There is another version of this song that was released first, that uses more strings. The auto tune is sooo heavy in that version that when it first came out people who've been fans for years couldn't distinguish their 7 voices. It sounded like one person.
Also the video for that version showcases a modern interpretative dance done by a foreign dance crew.
You might wanna check out bts albums in order, or entire bts albums, otherwise you are missing out on gorgeous storytelling.
The bts members right now are exploring their individual careers, and the first member to release an album was jhope.
His new album Jack in the box is worth checking out, the 10 tracks are supposed to flow into each other.
He also put on an incredible performance of the new album live on lollapalooza yesterday. That's worth checking out too.
BTS can pull of any genre and all of the members are individually very talented. They like to experiment with different styles so you can’t really get to know them just listening to one song. Please check out more of their songs or live performances.
YES BTS rapper writes about 95% of BTS lyrics and produces 70% of their songs and have been writing unreleased BTS songs since 2011 and some of the rapper like RM and Suga has been writing rap lyrics since 2006, and Suga produces song for other artist like Halsey,Coldplay,Juice Wrld,OMI,IU,Epik High,Heize,Samsung,etc.
Thank u for the honest but respectful reaction. We have no problem if the song is not ur cup of tea. For me though, I love this song so much especially the live version, because the choreography is top notch. Wish to continue this journey with u, that's why I'm subscribed ur channel 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 u nice keep going
Seems black swan is not the right song for you to start. Not sure why u chose it. But this one is a masterpiece if u only understand the lyrics. They have a wide variety of songs that will surely blow your mind. You can start with fake love, blood sweat and tears, mic drop, ON kinetic manifesto. They have mv's but u can also find their superb live performances of these songs. Hope u continue to react on them. We'll look forward to ur videos.. 💜💜💜💜
You are going to have such fun on this ride! For their voices, try the Tiny Desk Concert
This song says, “The dancer dies twice. The first death is when the dancer stops dancing. And this death is much more painful,” the legendary contemporary dancer Martha Graham made its motif. Just as a dancer faces his first death when he quits dancing, it contains the fear of the moment when he will no longer be able to stand on the stage as an artist.
The music video of BTS' songs is great, but it's even more beautiful when you watch the live stage. We recommend you to watch the live video.
"The more I do music, the more I fear that music will no longer give me a lot of emotion or trembling, but the moment I face my inner 'Black Swan' from the depths of my heart, I paradoxically realize that there is only music."
[Suga] Ayy, they say my heart is not beating
no more listening to music
Tryna pull up
Time seems to have stopped
Oh that would be my first death
I been always afraid of
[RM] If this makes me cry no more
If you can't make my heart tremble more
How could I ever die like this
But what if that moment’s right now
right now.
Thank you for your reaction!! I saw that ARMYs recommended their Tiny Desk Concert and it's definitely a good suggestion but if your gonna react to it be aware that on dynamite (the first song) the boys have some effects on their vocals as a stylistic choice cause of the song's genre. Their performance and the live band are awesomeee tho!! Can't wait for the next content on them :)
One thing we ARMYs love about BTS is that most of their songs they write and produce themselves.
we love honesty thanks for this reaction bts covers alot of genres you will def fiind sumn you like
Love it, thanks for the honesty 💜
loved your reaction! waiting for more bts videos
They sold out sofi stadium 4 nights in a row and 3 nights in Las Vagas plus sold out wembly stadium in London as well. There well known in the states here the collaborated with so many American artists it's incredible but you gotta check out there live performances there absolutely incredible.
English is not mine first language so i hope you understand me. If you are musician that is only interested in music, sound, production and instruments you're probaly not gonna like or become a fan of BTS for their music. Don't expect something revolutionary and approach them without prejuice and an open mind. You will like 2-5 of their songs, but liking BTS is a whole expirience if you only focus on one thing you might be missing the whole message. The're not like the 90's boyband or girl groups, even in kpop they upgrade it to something more meaningful. Their lyrics, music, effects, videos, visual, dancing are there for a reason is a storytelling the same as their album. It's similar to when you read a book, watch a film( BTS do have short films for their albums) or watch a painting, is open to interpretation but when you hear its creator explain it to you it has a new meaning. They have a few shallow songs just for fun, but also many deeper and meaningful songs, if you lisent to them for the first time you will think is just a silly pop or love song, but there is more behind like an iceberg.
Anyway you don't have to look into it if you are not interested as it take some time and energy.
Why do us Army like BTS? Well liking BTS is a whole journey and it depends from people, but there is a conection between BTS and Army, that you can only fully understand when you are an Army. This is the reason why we support them and have archived many things, It's something that transcends language and music.
This song excels in the lyrics and the MV is very artistic and beautiful. The dance is also over the top.
Wow! Well, Black Swan was my intro to BTS and I loved it. I have Never heard anything like it. Like the movie, it has to do with fearing the first death of losing the ability or passion to sing or dance anymore and that death being worse than the real death. Anyway, I'm way down the BTS rabbit hole now. If you want to hear them with a Live Band, a few things come to mind: 1) Tiny Desk Concert NPR Music - they did 3 songs (one of their more Poppish songs (Dynamite - in all English), Save Me and Spring Day, 2) FESTA Room Live 2021 - a medley of mostly B-side songs - just them singing and vibing (both of these were in Pandemic timeframe), and 3) for just the 4 in the vocal line I recommend House of Cards Live with English Subtitles, or The Truth Untold. A BTS Japanese song - Your Eyes Tell - is all 7 just standing and singing and it's beautiful. Tons more - MicDrop, Fake Love, DNA, Idol, Fire, Dope, ON Kinetic Manifesto Film Coma Prima, Blood Sweat & Tears, UGH, Ddaeng, Outro: Tear.... Some of their songs have interpretation videos by others so we can understand Korean word play in them (e.g. Ddaeng and UGH interpreted by DKDKTV), or deeper meanings (like in Spring Day interpreted by an Italian ARMY).
Midnight Notion, I love that while the video is playing, you have it large on the screen, with you and your background smaller, so that we can distinguish the members and actually read the CC/subs. When people position the small video in the lower right or left corner, and we pause to study something on the screen shot, or read the subs, the subs are often hidden by the various items at the bottom, like the time progression line, the volume, CC, settings, etc.
Sometimes we watch reaction videos, especially with knowledgeable music industry reactors, to see one of their hundreds of works for the first time.
But mostly we are very familiar with the songs, the lyrics, the explanation videos and articles, the behind the scenes, etc, and never get tired of seeing them again, and often enjoy sharing someone discovering the wonder that is BTS and their oh-so-varied and multifaceted productions.
I like that you stop the video to opine or add technical knowledge, and don't talk through it thus missing what is going on.
I also give you a lot of credit for realizing this may be not illustrative of their phenomenal and finally well deserved acclaim and are willing to watch more of BTS' HUGE body of work and to learn more about them as people with their exceptional intelligence, talents, variety, humor, goodness, incredible dedication to hard work, the hardships and struggle they have endured and conquered, etc, etc.
I am a senior ARMY, introduced to them by my Phi Beta Kappa daughter.
TBH, their BLACK SWAN performance on James Corden's show, and finding out how interesting and complex their entertainments are, the work they personally put into it all, and their variety, such as the enigmatic BANGTAN UNIVERSE storyline in many of their songs, and their hilarious RUN BTS contest episodes got me hooked and developed me into a dedicated fan.
I appreciate this comment a whole lot. Thank you! A lot of people mistake my analytical approach as being complainy or judgmental, but I just want to dig deeper into what makes each song great. I’m looking forward to coming back to BTS in a few weeks and seeing what else they have to offer.
@@MidnightNotion PLEAE REACT SOON
Cracked me up about BSB! Someone is trying to set you up for a whole lot of hurt! 😂😂
There is just so much that is BTS, each person takes away something different from others, personally I love Black Swan for the back ground story as well as the theatrical side and also the song itself. Most of BTS songs have a story line behind them as well as a story line running between albums. If it isn't your cup of tea we won't hold that against you.
I would recommend Festa Room Live 2021 as well as Proof live, a lot of their songs are done live as well as a lot of dancing while singing. Their stage productions are amazing! [BANGTAN BOMB] 'Dionysus' Special Stage (BTS focus) @ 2019 MMA - BTS (방탄소년단) is my absolute favorite out of the live performance's.
Glad you had fun with my dumb little joke, haha! I’ll definitely have to check out a live performance soon!
Thanks for reacting to BTS. Not sure what kind of reaction you were trying to get from the fans by reading the comment that you were "supposed to read." It would be great if you came with an open mind next time and listen and watch without expectations and just enjoy. You missed so many important points about this song: the lyrics, the scene, the visuals, the production, the dance. BTS, as a whole, is ground breaking. I am not sure what you expected from that statement. I love boybands but if the part you liked about them are the 5 part harmonies, then no. BTS is comprised of 3 rappers and 4 vocalists and it's their group dynamics that make them extra special. I am curious to see what your next BTS move is. :) I am hoping for BTS Room Festa Live and make sure you turn on the closed captions.
I was specifically trying to get you all “riled up.” Literally asked my friend what would set the army off, and she said “compare them to boy bands.” Didn’t realize my little joke would be taken so seriously… 🤦♂️ 😆
@@MidnightNotion lol i didn't take you seriously. i love certain boybands in general. bts is a boyband.
Oh, I mean the other folks. Some people have been legit ANGRY about it.
You were honest and respectfull, I love that! Bts have lots of different types of music so im looking forward to see what you will think of the other songs :) I personally LOVE the lyricism in black swan
I don't get what you meant by "groundbreaking". Because this particular piece comes from their honest feelings and struggles as artists. What are the parameters to get a groundbreaking song exactly? I'm wondering.
I know I'm a bit late to the party, but I just wanted to add my thoughts. A lot of people have already sent suggestions and such so I wont do that, but I wanted to say my opinion on the song (and BTS songs in general). I can take or leave autotune, though I feel like in this song it rather fits with the message they are conveying. I first heard this song when I was dealing with some burnout at work and the lyrics really hit me and inspired me. For me, what really sets BTS apart is the messages they share. Don't get me wrong, they are amazing artists and performers (their live performances are amazing and I highly recommend them), but what drew me in was their lyrics. I grew up in the boyband era and I was not a fan. Not because the groups weren't talented, but because I felt like they shared very similar messages and most were typical love songs. BTS sings about some pretty heavy subjects and convey very meaningful messages. I work in the mental health field and it is amazing how many people have named BTS as the reason they were able to get through rough times. They have songs about learning to love yourself (actually there's a whole album about it), dealing with sadness and depression (i.e. Blue & Grey), speaking out on social issues (i.e. Baepsae) and so many more. They do a variety of different genres as well, and I love seeing how different they can make their sound and look for the different songs. I'd love to see you react to some other songs of theirs and see what your thoughts are.
They do have live performances if you'd like to check them out.
Backstreet boys and BTS aren't the same at all for one reason. Backstreet boys is a boyband with boyband music. The only "boyband" thing BTS has is the fact that they are a group. Other than that they are closer to solo artists than anything else, musically speaking since they don't limit themselves to a single genre. Their catalog is a lot wider and every little detail in their music counts and is related to the message, especially their music videos. No piece in bts's music videos are here "just for the aesthetic". It's always some kind of symbolism, even the outfits, sets, colors... etc
Because BTS lyrics are a big part of what make them so good I suggest either looking up the lyrics or watching a lyric video first then watch the MV. Their MVs can be distracting especially if your aren’t used to using subtitles. There’s a reactor that first reacts to lyric videos, then the MV (if there is one) and then the live performance in one video and a lot of people seem to like the format. Though be careful with lyric videos sometimes they try to get them out fast and the translations are off, usually too literal and not taking into account the cultural meaning/slang. Doolset is a good website for lyrics and will even have commentary as to the Korean references that westerners won’t understand. There are also some explanation videos for their MVs for songs like Spring Day which is really meaningful once you know the concept behind the MV and Idol which the video seems like just crazy fun but actually has meaning and a lot of Korean cultural references. Fans of other bands/singers may not like long videos but ARMY loves them and loves when people break stuff down and appreciate how good they are live. Don’t be afraid to check out their b-side tracks some of the ones released can be catered to a pop audience like DNA or Dynamite which have the most views but aren’t the most meaningful. Also don’t assume their lyrics are about a relationship most go deeper than they seem on the surface. They have three fully English songs (Dynamite, Permission to Dance and Butter) which are purposely more pop to attract more western audience but don’t really reflect their discography. I would suggest Fake Love. People who don’t listen to rock will call it a rock song in my opinion it has a somewhat rock vibe but isn’t a rock song unless you go by Billboards definition of rock who calls most rock bands metal and metal bands heavy metal.
Thank you for your honest reaction toward to the MV as a professional musician. I do understand that it’s complicated for you to focus on so many things in the same time. I appreciated that you spoke about the song from different aspects with profundity. Please keep your honesty and professionalism. I have to say that I enjoy their live performances more than MVs as well.
Other Armys explained everything so I just leave my recommendation. Festa Room Live. You can hear Live vocals and a little of their other songs. I subscribed and I'm waiting for more BTS reaction. If you'll listen to them without prejudice you'll gonna like them and maybe love them like we do.
Huh, I would be interested in what other song sounds like Black Swan. I don't think I've heard that critique before. I'm not offended I am honestly surprised. I have not yet heard the other songs that this sounds like. Thanks!
Thanks for keeping it kind, and for the genuine question. This has been a major request in the comments, and I hate to say that I don’t have any specific examples, which makes this even harder to articulate. I’m going to try:
I think it’s rhythmic familiarity, not sonic. There are so many songs with trap beats in 4/4 combined with light instrumentation on top. Those two elements blend together into something that sounds familiar. I wish I had specific examples-maybe something from the lo-fi hip hop beats to relax to channels? Maybe something from a TV show I watched?
It’s that thing where, from the outside, every Metallica song “sounds the same,” but as a superfan, I can instantly tell the difference between each one. Maybe Black Swan sounds unique to Army who have been following BTS for years, but as a first-timer, it just felt familiar (in a good way).
Hope that explains it better than the video!
Oh yes, that's true. They are very into trap beats and are heavily influenced by the trap hip hop of the 2000s to 2010s. Remember, they were between 15 and 20 when they started making beats and melodies (by them, I mean Suga, PDogg, Supreme Boi, RM). While I agree that their (RM's especially) lyrics are too deep to explain here (word play, yes, but also paradigm-shifting concepts that go way beyond boy bands or even great bands I've heard in the last twenty years) I have also been intrigued by their musicality and even their unusual take on the trap beat genre, which I was not a fan of 15 years ago. Growing up in the 90s, my favorite bands were Green Day, Chili Peppers, Alanis, Cypress Hill. In the 00s I got into Ban Folds and Linkin Park. I was pretty tuned out of "modern music" until BTS came along. They do almost every genre but their roots are definitely in OG hip hop and 00s trap house. I love their rapline, so my favorites are Bapsae, Ddaeng, Ugh!, Dope, Blood Sweat & Tears. RM did an incredible collab with Wale a couple years back that is just mind-blowing called Change. Still can't believe that didn't catch on. Our loss. I'm subscribing to your channel (I'm not just into BTS and I like your reviews). I'll look to see if you have a Patreon. With appreciation.
I love your honest reaction and hope you continue to react to them! I think you would enjoy their 2021 festa ‘BTS room live’. It has parts of many of their songs with many different genres!
Sorry for all the comments heheh. But I think you would also like MORE by jhope. Jhope is one of the 7 members of bts and he just released a solo album which he performed at Lollapalooza (even non kpop fans are praising hom for his amazing performance) and more is a hiphop with some rock song and i reaaaally loved it. He really did a 180 with this album of his. Equal sign is also good. Gives me where is the love by Black eyes peas vibes. The lyrics are also really important in equal sign.
I feel like other ARMY have made lots of solid points about the depth of the lyrics and what makes BTS special so I’ll just comment on harmonies. As far as I know, there aren’t any BTS songs with 7 part harmonies - mostly they do two part or maybe three part harmonies. I think what’s more interesting about BTS is the juxtaposition of voices. They tend to do really high high notes and then follow with someone singing/rapping in lower register. I find this really interesting but I can understand if it’s not everyone’s cup of tea.
the first time I heard "Black Swan" I didn't really like the song, precisely because of the autotune. Then I read the lyrics and made recherche to understand the message of the song and it became one of my favorite songs. For me the use of autotune amplifies the message of the song (go deep within yourself to face your fears)
I have a question. You kept saying in your review that "Black Swan" was like many other pop songs and that you had heard it all before ... that it sounded like most other pop songs out there in the time period! Please can you tell me what are some of the other songs are? I would be very interested to know. Also, your initial comment about auto tune was that you would move past it - however, you continued to mention it many more times in your reaction. I guess I would be interested to see what happens if you do focus on ... the auto tune?! A couple of other things most of which were previously mentioned - lyrics are the most important; some songs are more heavily dance focused than others; this song is always performed, meaning some version of the dance (and there are multiple versions) is done when presented live at a concert or show; auto tune is always a stylistic choice for BTS and is the exception rather than the rule and I think I am correct in saying that is mostly when the rappers of BTS are singing and rarely the vocalists; the fact that they do not stick to any one genre is one reason that sets them apart and finally, I can't think of another band from the west that both sing and dance at the highest standard live! I do hope you check out more of their 200+ discography plus their back stories because BTS treat ARMY like no other band has ever treated their fans in my lifetime and I'm 63!
I can’t name specific songs because my main genre is rock. I’m not well-versed in artist and song names in hip-hop, but I work in audio production, and I know enough music theory to understand what is and isn’t standard.
I get that “trust me, I know what I’m talking about” isn’t a very good answer, but I don’t know what level of music theory knowledge you have. This song is in 4/4 (common time), uses a western, 12-note scale, and a stringed-instrument loop; it has a simple kick-snare pattern with a trap hi-hat on top, and occasional reverse cymbals for transitions. All of those things are extremely common.
But remember: “common” does not equal “bad.” I never said the song was bad, I just pointed out what I was hearing. It’s fine enough on it’s own, it just wasn’t as fresh as I had expected.
@@MidnightNotion Definitely not a good answer, but yeah... at least you recognize that I guess 😅
That one also got me. I was like "what music are you listening to that sounds like this, because I love this song and wouldn't mind something similar". I guess what you describe has no meaning to me, as long as the song sounds unique and exciting to me, which this definitely does. I can't name a song that I feel sounds very similar to this, the lyrics are deep and interesting, and their mv is artistic and beautiful... so to me it is definitely "fresh" in all the ways that matter to me.
BTS is the only band I know that sound better live than the studio version. Dive into the BTS rabbit hole and I will journey with you.
Oh, I will. Slowly, but surely. 😉
I didn't realize every pop musician is doing emo hiphop these past 5 years. Would've appreciated more if the lyrics were commentated on. Thanks for the video bro, enjoyable video and watched the whole way through
BTS aren’t pop lol. BTS are mostly a hiphop and r&b based group but also does other genres like neo soul, ballad,rock type music, pop,.. BTS has only 7 pop songs out of their 400 songs.
BTS has two underground rappers Suga,Rm(leader)
BTS has been doing hip-hop since debut, it was originally their main genre. BTS started doing pop music later on in their careers and not the opposite. They were originally formed in 2010 to be a hip-hop group and they branched out debuting with many genres of music.
@@rikhmjustsomeguywithmousta4971 Oh yeah ik I was just saying in a teasing tone bc this guy thought the music sounded like what everyone's been doing. Should've added a /s
@@-amel-9896 Oh yeah ik I was just saying in a teasing tone bc this guy thought the music sounded like what everyone's been doing. Should've added a /s
I love your honesty! Please react to more!!! I want you to love them as much as we Army do!!! I’m seriously looking forward to seeing more of your BTS reactions and watching you fall down the rabbit hole!
You can't judge anyone's music with just one listen and from just one music video. Personally, I find that I only like one or two songs from famous US artists in their album or anywhere else for that matter. Also, I'm not a fan of any MV music so much - I actually prefer to watch live vocals so I watched almost all of BTS' award performances such as MAMA, Melon Music Awards, etc. That's how I got blown away by BTS. You really see all their Blood, Sweat, and Tears in their live performances. In addition, with BTS, you don't just fall in love with their music or their performances, but also who they are as people.
Thank you for your genuine reaction, I wish you keep reacting to bts ✨💜
I will! Gotta do other genres first, but I’ll be back to it soon enough.
Okay to be honest K-pop is heavily inspired by the west from music to clothes to trends so there isn't much difference for that matter the reason why is because Korea has a relatively small home market so they had to branch out to promote. BTS are very diverse from doing rock hip-hop EDM rap ballads Latin Pop and they want to do all the time it's a stylistic choice but if you want to they're known for having amazing live performances I would recommend tomorrow from their school love affair album the live performance has English captions
This is a song about the first death being the death of creativity. Before the final death.
Their hair is wonderful, they are beautiful, boyband, etc. I already know where this reaction is going... not surprising when a person is used to a singular lense when experiencing ideas or concepts foreign to their everyday norms. I appreciate the reactor for not being rude tho. I also love the debate and education that's in the comments! ARMYS are well versed in Bangtan's artistry and I'm betting it surprises reactors since they pretty much expect 15yr old fangirls of boybands 🤷♀️
Let the record show that I’ve never been the kind of person to hate things that are popular with 15-year-old girls, and my musical background is atypically eclectic. Love me some rock, but I’m here for all the genres, which is the whole point of the rocker review: break the stereotype, enjoy something new, and hopefully learn something along the way (I certainly did here).
Hope you stick around for more. Maybe you’ll find something outside your lens as well. 😉
@@MidnightNotion eeewww very very off putting. it reeks of deep rooted insecurity here. blocked
Huh. That’s…not the reaction I expected. I got accused of having a singular lens, so I defended myself, and now I’m insecure and off-putting?
Sometimes I wonder why I still use the internet. 🤦♂️
@@MidnightNotion "never been the kind of person to hate things that are popular with 15-year-old girls" that's where you messed up lol. i get the sentiment but that wording was awful. 😆 not sure how that reeks of insecurity though? can't please everybody.
It’s weird, because that’s a real thing! If teen girls like something, men typically go out of their way to actively hate it. Never been that way. Never understood that energy. Oh well.
Reacting to BTS is definitely an art, so I never expect much from Western reactors who judge them on a shallow level in their rookie reaction.
We will see what the next reaction brings!
It's OK, song preference is very subjective, you are musician, so you looked into the musicality part and you like 90's boyband, that's why you are looking for the similarity to enjoy. Shadow, mirror, black and white in the video, all carrying different meanings, such as fear, greedy, weakness, passion, obsession, etc, are the main messages of the song and album. For me, I like this song very much out of BTS songs, I like the fusion of modern and traditional instruments in this piece. And also BTS spice it up with contemporary dance that they rarely do.
There is an introduction to these guys it'll help you understand them better for sure it's super helpful
please listen to house of cards by bts live it’s really good and i feel like you will like it!!
With "Black Swan," BTS divulge their most harrowing shadow yet, one that any person who lives for making art faces: losing the passion for creating.
"A dancer dies twice - once when they stop dancing, and this first death is the more painful." Martha Graham. This quote is at the root of the sentiments inlaid in "Black Swan." Much like a dancer feels purposeless when they can no longer express themselves through dance, BTS contends that the day that music no longer fills them with the same passionate fire as before, or even if there came a day when they stopped creating music - what they feel is their life's purpose - it would feel like death.
RM sings, "If this can no longer resonate / No longer make my heart vibrate / Then this may be how I die my first death."
Once again, BTS affirm that despite their countless record-breaking accolades, the wealth they've amassed, and their ever-increasing fame, they are artists. What means most to them is the art - music, visuals, dances - that they create.
You can check out their BTS Festa Room Live for a medley performance and find a certain song you'd probably love. They sing live but they did have backing vocals to meet the product they wanted and their mics are sort of tuned. If you'd rather hear their raw voices, you can listen to their medley performance in their Love Yourself Speake Yourself concert tour.
my main though is: it wasn't just the song for you and that's fine, you know why? the one of the reasons BTS have Soo many fans it's because every single song is different that the other, this one may be with the basic line but then in their menu they have... happy pop songs, some hardcore rap, hiphop, rock, ballads, pieces inspired by classical music and traditional Korean music, r&b, and more and more... every of this songs have something different to offer, if u don't like autotune and you are curios about their vocals listen to louder than bombs or house of cards, if you want to hear their rap listen to ugh, cyphers etc, if you want something moving and with deep lirycs listen to blue and grey, visually pleasing with catchy chours then fake love, and i can go on and on about it! there is always something for anybody and the deep meanings they put behind the songs can make even those "simpler" beats turn into something delightful. i have been fan for ten years, before even they debuted, because there was always something to which i can relate to. sorry for my English it's not my native language, greetings from Poland :)
you can hear them live at the recent Grammy Awards, their performance was voted #13 Greatest Grammy Performance of All Time by Rolling Stone magazine. You might want to enjoy the official mv first tho (Butter). The 3 all-english songs don't represent them as well though.
There is an orchestral version of this song, that was the first time it was released as a single with a dance performance video. I definetly recommend you watch it
Looking forward for more bts reactions !
Bts is more like a bigger package to real fans. Its ofc about the songs, the lyrics the stage performance and amazing stage presence. But its also them being humble, allways trying to improve the themselves and encouraging their fans to improve themselves, to find their selves and find happiness. One of their members was performing in Lollapalooza to 100 000 people and their companys free live stream had 14,9 million viewers. And still this guy was worried before hand if there will be people watching, if people will come to see him. Another guy in Bts asked his friends "How do I talk to these celebreties" when they were on their way to a album release party. They are just so genuine and humble guys and without getting to know more about them, you cant understand why they are as big as they are. So, hoping to see you continuing this path cause you do seem to be openminded 💜
You might look at their live stuff. Known for their lyrics, all their videos are telling a story.
This definitely wasn't the best song for you to start with but thank you for being honest with the limited amount of information you had about the song.
1. As other ARMYs have said, the lyrics are often the most important part of BTS songs.
2. It's also recommended that you listen with good headphones.
3. ARMYs don't mind long videos! My favourite reactors start with a (good) lyric video to concentrate on the lyrics & sound so as to not be distracted by the visuals (which are also important). Followed by reading an explanation of the Korean references and the wordplay (usually doolset). They follow this by a reaction to the MV and/or a live performance. For particular complex song they may watch an explanation video. Those interested in dance will watch a dance practice.
As to my thoughts on Black Swan, when I first saw this MV I loved the dancing but since Festa this year (2022) this song makes me cry. Imagine living and breathing music for over 10 years and suddenly feeling you can't make music anymore. I understand why RM cried while writing Black Swan.
Same for me. This song hit different after their 2022 Festa Dinner. Whenever I listen to this now, it makes me cry. They were telling us what they're going through and that they're having a hard time. 😔
Thanks for honest reaction.
Thank you for your honest reaction, I really appreciate it. I hear you in your "wish to love them" and find a very special unique sound but as I'm not a musitian myself I could not help with that. The only I could do is to share my personal experience of coming to love BTS.
I think what makes them stand out for me is multiple layers in their artwork. In interviews BTS themselves state they do not work in a specific music genre but rather create a concept which includes music, dance, performance, make up, etc. So assessing the song from a musical perspective is just one layer which when combined with other elements could become something different and convey a great message. An example of this could be their song Blood, Sweat and Tears which from lyrical perspective is not impressive at all (at least for me) but when combined with MV references turns into a very deep message. The same goes for Spring day which lyrics get a different meaning when combined with MV (for this the explanation video is required).
Also they do not hide that they get an insiration from other artworks, so you could find a lot of references to books, musicals, paitings, installations and even films in their song and/or MVs.
So basically you could dive as deep as you want with almost any of their song. You could just find the sound you vibe towards, or you could explore the lyrics message, or you could reflect on the meaning hidden in MV, or you could find an insiration sources and references to actual artworks in order to process these youself and then link your thoughts and reflection to the BTS song. Or even get inspired and create something yourself! And whatever you chose is fine as it depends on your own unique way of approaching the art.
And I personally really like it. I like that by listening to one BTS song I could find 5-6 new artists I've never heard before. I like how respectful they are towards other artists, how they try to encourage their fans to discover new names and just keep eyes open.
Another reason why I love them is they are have really great public image. I wouldn't say they are 100% perfect but they are definitely role models for a lot of people in their responsible yet passionate approach to life. I wouldn't speculate how real this image is as I obviously are not familiar with them off-camera but I appreciate the amount of effort they had to spent ni order to create and maintain such image wheter it became or not part of their off-stage persona.
I would be very interested to hear your thought on your way of getting know BTS better if you decide to continue your journey. Thanks and all the best!
i actually DON'T think Black Swan sounds like anything, I would like to hear examples of songs you think it sounds like? eg, the Asian instrument used in the track. Also, in their On Kinetic Manifesto, they use an interval that to my Western ear has an Asian sound. Also you probably aren't a dancer?, I can't think of anyone doing a mv like Black Swan with contemp.dance and all the symbolism?
I appreciate your honesty, but will come back when you're ready to react to BTS live..😉
You’re in for a treat! 2 weeks til my next BTS. 😉