Spot on! I’m in soil and have problems with low ph in runoff. Water in at around 6.5 come out 5.6 to 5.8 or so. So I flush with higher ph till it get in the low 6s. Then in turn you have to watch how far that drops your ppm’s. But you are right on with it!✌🏻
4yr old vid but definitely makes sense!! I'm in Aus,, outdoor grow just coming into flower,,, earlier on i had a lockout issue after an inch of rain... flushed one pot with neutral water and it came out at 6.2,,, flushed again and 6.8 was the result.. I've been fluctuating feeds from 6.7 to 6.9 and they're booming!! Subbed brother!! ✌🏼
PH is the most common problem growers have, luckily not the worst. A bit of advice. Use 2 ph pens, and calibrate before each feeding. Test runoff too. A healthy ph zone will rise. Oh, drip clean each feeding will keep the salts down. He covered everything elsd I can think of
cal-mag mix to a 100 ppm is an excellent flushing solution for flushing and you probably already have some, no need to spend money on a flushing solution.
not trying to be a jerk just think you're kind of misinforming people pretty much long story short you're explaining TDS total dissolved solids and PPM which is parts per million they correlate with ph but it's not the same thing
+4hydroponics.com love ur videos man keep up the good work. I have a question about the poseidonzyme I got from u. it seems to burn the plants. I was over doing it but now I'm only spraying once a week. should I add the zues juice to the foliar spray as well for uptake??
+Jorge Carrillo I would not add zues juice with a foliar because it has a bunch of extra hummic acid which has a bunch of micronutrients in it which could burn the leaves up... fulvic acid is the one you CAN add that wont hurt anything...I recommend ful-power..
4hydroponics.com like the video, it really helps,?I'm using rain water and it drove my ph up real hi ,causing lockout,so I check my ph in the soil and water I'm using promix soil so my water is real alkaline, I ph dwn it to about 6.0 ,my ? Is do I ph dwn the rain water every time I water and can I use my liquid nuks in the same water ? Thanks .
No wonder my plants are looking so hungry. My ph from the tap is usually 7 but Im not sure how long its been at 8.7. It makes so much sense because they are being fed well but still looking so hungry. Gotta fix it.
Yeah, I grew for a decade, but stopped 6 or so years ago. Starting back I hadn't found my old PH meter yet or ordered a new one, but remembered the tap water in past years being right at 7.0. I had seen on a video that ac water was often around 4.0 PH and both my ac's dump a couple gallons a day, so I was putting 1/3 ac water to my tap water and thinking it should be in the 6 range, but my plants, especially one, just seemed to stay so small and grow so slow. I finally find my old meter and get a new one and check and low and behold my tap water was now varying between 7.65-7.95 and both ac's water was 7.85. So I'm PH-ing down to low 6's now and heavy watering, hopefully it'll rinse all that near 8 PH water out over the next few days and the plants will start growing like they should. I bought a cheap RO kit as well, just have to hook it up, so using PH down on tap in the mean time.
One of my tomatoes started having lighter leaves (right on the cusp of yellowing) so I checked the EC and about 3.5 when I then checked the pH and it had shot up to 6.7. Would that be the problem? Everything is healthy looking but an entire branch of leaves about to yellow means something was wrong so I chunked the solution to give it some 5.86 pH, and 3.6 EC.
I recently flushed some new 707 and coco loco soil. I ran about half a gallon through a 3 gallon pot. The 707 drained fast but the coco loco took some time. I tested the runoff of each. The 707 was over 2000 ppm and the coco loco was over 3500 ppm !!! Is this way too high? I'm thinking of flushing it down to a level closer to 500-750 ppm. Why is the runoff so high in ppm?
I got soil straight from my compost and the leaves started turning down and wrinkled. I believe I have low ph. So I flushed it and then put a new soil. Leaves are getting greener but still wrinkled. How long should it take to get better?
I’m growing in organic my tap water (after letting it sit for 48 hours to let it dechlorinate) it’s between 7.5-7.75 ppm at 40 I’ve been using ph down with my great white, bokashi, and growers recharge. Should I not use the ph down while in organic soil?
I would use it to make sure what goes in is 6.0-7.0. All organic over here and just messed up, stunted heavily in the swelling phase of flower. Got high ph soil from over feeding and too much soluble seaweed. Also my water was 7.5 when I thought it was 7.0. So I recommend it to make sure
@@harmonicliving3507 don’t use seaweed in flower,it is to high in nitrogen. I use fish oil ,molasses Epson salts in a compost tea and the results are phenomenal year after year. Hope this helps.
if I add ph down and drop it to 6.0. If you wait awhile it won’t be 6.0 anymore and usually rises back up. My question is if it reads 6.5 when I water will it rise the same way in the soil back to what the ph was.
Geloto Cookies I use 7 gallon pots. I put The pot on a milk crate sideways in an39 gallon tote and run ph water to 6.4 To 6.7 and check the runoff after each gallon of water to see what the ph is and the ppms. I’m usiung happy frog and ocean forest and for some reason my ph likes to try to get under 6.0ph.
Feed at 1/4 strength nutrients after fixing lockout. Some people feed at the end of their flush so the medium has nutrients still but I prefer flushing and using microbes at the end and then after the pots dry out I feed at 1/4 strength and then work up from there as needed. Most bottle nutrients their feed charts are way to overboard. I never feed more than 3/4 of the bottle recommended even when not having issues.
Hey bro I have question I am using an amended soil mix in your video you said something about not to adjust the pH the the microbes with do it on it's own.... So your saying I do not need to change the pH in the water before watering just make sure I am using a clean water source??? Right now I am using straight tap water and adjusting the pH in the water before watering...
@Vittoria but if you regularly have to put 7.8-8.0 ph water that's unfiltered with ~300 ppm will it raise the soils ph? My runoff from 6.6 water is 7.0??
@Vittoria I've heard that ph in plus ph out ÷ 2 is about what pH is at the rootzone. I'm assuming my roots are having trouble up taking nutrients. They got fucked outside now I got a tent, and trying to nurse em back.
@Vittoria yeah I think I was dosing the nutes too high. So I got a salt build up over time. I used 7.7-8 ph water and thought my nutrients ph since it was like 6.1 would be fine enough to offset my tap water. My runoff is like 6.7-7.0. I'm assuming the pH is so high because I was watering for months with 7.8-8.0 and it was slowly bring my soils ph to that level too.
Yoo, I had a plant and accidentally put way too much white distilled vinegar in my water to water the plant and watered at 5.0, I have flushed with 4 gallons of 6.5 ph water and got the runoff to 6.4, what are the chances it will survive
hello peeps... I am attempting to be organic and find that my water, on average is low ph... I have top-dressed the pots with dolomite lime, and have since sourced that this will bung my microbes, etc... why is it so fning impossible to find a natural way to constantly ph up?
measuring the ph of runoff in coco is unreliable. feed it daily with nuts. ph 5.7..if you can use ro water and an airstone, supplement with lots of calmag.
I live in the boonies & have to use well water that is 7.7 on the ph scale....so i'm having issues.....cal & mag problems....heading to the grow store today to buy some ph down....guess i'll have to fill a large barrel w/ my water then use the ph down....then water by hand....shit....that's a lot harder than just using my garden hose straight out of the tap...I had lime in my soil mix but it's not enough...think I HAVE to lower the ph water going in...
I'm monitoring my pH with a digital meter 6.3 6.5 & in having crazy lockouts & I'm in earlyish flower. And my leaves still look like shit ! I don't have a ppm meter at the moment. She's my biggest plant did look the best now all leaves look just awful. I performed a flush once should I do it again & with what p.h water? I do have hurricane Harvest but that's what I used last time I'd rather just use water.
@@matthewdickson7371 do a flush with 6.5 ph water......check your first runoff ppm...if its over say 1200 ....flush it down to 500 to 700 ppm...let everything dryout and start over on your nutrients....
I use to use ph down to lower my water however I noticed the fish fertilizer also lowers ph. Do you think I can adjust my ph with the fish fertilizer??? If I’m guessing this right. The mixture I pour into the soil (outdoor). Needs to be 5.5 to 6.5.
Dude your videos are awesome! Listened to them the entire the 2 hour drive to my mom and dads this weekend and learned so much thanks cuz.
Spot on! I’m in soil and have problems with low ph in runoff. Water in at around 6.5 come out 5.6 to 5.8 or so. So I flush with higher ph till it get in the low 6s. Then in turn you have to watch how far that drops your ppm’s. But you are right on with it!✌🏻
Dynamite. Most basic form. Good job!
4yr old vid but definitely makes sense!!
I'm in Aus,, outdoor grow just coming into flower,,, earlier on i had a lockout issue after an inch of rain... flushed one pot with neutral water and it came out at 6.2,,, flushed again and 6.8 was the result..
I've been fluctuating feeds from 6.7 to 6.9 and they're booming!!
Subbed brother!! ✌🏼
If the in the ground the rain should help them. Use canna bio veg flower and boost. You won't have plants you will have trees.
PH is the most common problem growers have, luckily not the worst. A bit of advice. Use 2 ph pens, and calibrate before each feeding. Test runoff too. A healthy ph zone will rise. Oh, drip clean each feeding will keep the salts down. He covered everything elsd I can think of
cal-mag mix to a 100 ppm is an excellent flushing solution for flushing and you probably already have some, no need to spend money on a flushing solution.
This man knows his stuff.
not trying to be a jerk just think you're kind of misinforming people pretty much long story short you're explaining TDS total dissolved solids and PPM which is parts per million they correlate with ph but it's not the same thing
Great video. I learned alot. I'm a beginner so I didn't check the pH. I was watering / feeding in the 8s! !! I did hve lockout so now I now
NICE WORK +Jorge Carrillo ! It can be a "silent killer"
+4hydroponics.com love ur videos man keep up the good work. I have a question about the poseidonzyme I got from u. it seems to burn the plants. I was over doing it but now I'm only spraying once a week. should I add the zues juice to the foliar spray as well for uptake??
+Jorge Carrillo I would not add zues juice with a foliar because it has a bunch of extra hummic acid which has a bunch of micronutrients in it which could burn the leaves up... fulvic acid is the one you CAN add that wont hurt anything...I recommend ful-power..
+4hydroponics.com thanks for the help Matt
4hydroponics.com like the video, it really helps,?I'm using rain water and it drove my ph up real hi ,causing lockout,so I check my ph in the soil and water I'm using promix soil so my water is real alkaline, I ph dwn it to about 6.0 ,my ? Is do I ph dwn the rain water every time I water and can I use my liquid nuks in the same water ? Thanks .
No wonder my plants are looking so hungry. My ph from the tap is usually 7 but Im not sure how long its been at 8.7. It makes so much sense because they are being fed well but still looking so hungry. Gotta fix it.
What did you do to fix it?
Yeah, I grew for a decade, but stopped 6 or so years ago. Starting back I hadn't found my old PH meter yet or ordered a new one, but remembered the tap water in past years being right at 7.0.
I had seen on a video that ac water was often around 4.0 PH and both my ac's dump a couple gallons a day, so I was putting 1/3 ac water to my tap water and thinking it should be in the 6 range, but my plants, especially one, just seemed to stay so small and grow so slow. I finally find my old meter and get a new one and check and low and behold my tap water was now varying between 7.65-7.95 and both ac's water was 7.85. So I'm PH-ing down to low 6's now and heavy watering, hopefully it'll rinse all that near 8 PH water out over the next few days and the plants will start growing like they should. I bought a cheap RO kit as well, just have to hook it up, so using PH down on tap in the mean time.
what to do if my runoff is 7ph but i put in 4.5-5ph in to flush it for 6.5ph runoff?
One of my tomatoes started having lighter leaves (right on the cusp of yellowing) so I checked the EC and about 3.5 when I then checked the pH and it had shot up to 6.7. Would that be the problem? Everything is healthy looking but an entire branch of leaves about to yellow means something was wrong so I chunked the solution to give it some 5.86 pH, and 3.6 EC.
We need more good info like this Sweet!!!🍓✌️Thank’s
Thank you brother !! Big help!!!!
Good coverage. I use promix and have a low PH, below 5.5, I will monitor and adjust ! Thanks !
Ph is whether the soil is acidic or alkaline . Your range is 5.8-6.3
I jus use ph paper test my water before i feed it to make sure its between 6 or 7 put my nutes in and test it again before feeding
I flushed and it helped
I recently flushed some new 707 and coco loco soil. I ran about half a gallon through a 3 gallon pot. The 707 drained fast but the coco loco took some time. I tested the runoff of each. The 707 was over 2000 ppm and the coco loco was over 3500 ppm !!! Is this way too high? I'm thinking of flushing it down to a level closer to 500-750 ppm. Why is the runoff so high in ppm?
I got soil straight from my compost and the leaves started turning down and wrinkled. I believe I have low ph. So I flushed it and then put a new soil. Leaves are getting greener but still wrinkled. How long should it take to get better?
Sounds like the soil was too hot, from fresh compost. Basically fried your plant.
Very helpful...thanks.
I flushed 9 gallons threw my soil with it staying 5.3 range on run off never raised no idea how to fix
I’m growing in organic my tap water (after letting it sit for 48 hours to let it dechlorinate) it’s between 7.5-7.75 ppm at 40 I’ve been using ph down with my great white, bokashi, and growers recharge. Should I not use the ph down while in organic soil?
I would use it to make sure what goes in is 6.0-7.0. All organic over here and just messed up, stunted heavily in the swelling phase of flower. Got high ph soil from over feeding and too much soluble seaweed. Also my water was 7.5 when I thought it was 7.0. So I recommend it to make sure
@@harmonicliving3507 don’t use seaweed in flower,it is to high in nitrogen. I use fish oil ,molasses Epson salts in a compost tea and the results are phenomenal year after year. Hope this helps.
Why plastic and not glass?
if I add ph down and drop it to 6.0. If you wait awhile it won’t be 6.0 anymore and usually rises back up. My question is if it reads 6.5 when I water will it rise the same way in the soil back to what the ph was.
@William that will change the ph
Water till you get runoff and do a slurry test every watering snd every feeding. It should be the same ph coming out as it went in..
Great question I would love to know what you learned
Wait, you shouldn't measure Ph in a glass container? I'm suddenly doubting everything I learned in chemical engineering school.
I am wondering this now also!
Don't spend money when aloe vera grows free.
Hey bro first time grower from UK do I pH down the water after I put the nutrients in ?? Please answer 😀
Ben Hutchins , yes always adjust your mix to your desired ph . Good luck 🍀 .. growers love
Yes...PH after you mix your nutrients
Ph after everything in there you gotta put them in order depending what your using
u r the man!!! great info!!! new sub...ur channel is very helpful!!!!! #respect
So, if I’m feeding my plant 6.5 PH water and the run off tests at 5 PH what should I do? Add limestone?
What are your ppms in your runoff? I would flush it out good. That always helps me. I have the same problem at the start of my seedling and veg.
@@buckaroo8805 how do you flush your plants what do you use and how
Geloto Cookies I use 7 gallon pots. I put
The pot on a milk crate sideways in an39 gallon tote and run ph water to 6.4
To 6.7 and check the runoff after each gallon of water to see what the ph is and the ppms. I’m usiung happy frog and ocean forest and for some reason my ph likes to try to get under 6.0ph.
What kind of water do you flush with?
My strawberries are wilting. Not sure what to do. Ph..6 temp 68.
Your videos are some of the best. Hands up! Lol
What should I typically feed it after flushing it to get rid of the pH lockout?
Feed at 1/4 strength nutrients after fixing lockout. Some people feed at the end of their flush so the medium has nutrients still but I prefer flushing and using microbes at the end and then after the pots dry out I feed at 1/4 strength and then work up from there as needed. Most bottle nutrients their feed charts are way to overboard. I never feed more than 3/4 of the bottle recommended even when not having issues.
My pH is going in 5.5 but coming out 7 I'm growing a auto flower in coco should I just flush with pH 5.5 water and no nutes
Hey bro I have question I am using an amended soil mix in your video you said something about not to adjust the pH the the microbes with do it on it's own.... So your saying I do not need to change the pH in the water before watering just make sure I am using a clean water source??? Right now I am using straight tap water and adjusting the pH in the water before watering...
@Vittoria but if you regularly have to put 7.8-8.0 ph water that's unfiltered with ~300 ppm will it raise the soils ph? My runoff from 6.6 water is 7.0??
@Vittoria I've heard that ph in plus ph out ÷ 2 is about what pH is at the rootzone. I'm assuming my roots are having trouble up taking nutrients. They got fucked outside now I got a tent, and trying to nurse em back.
And I also feel like the soil can buffer sure, but only for so long imho
@Vittoria yeah I think I was dosing the nutes too high. So I got a salt build up over time. I used 7.7-8 ph water and thought my nutrients ph since it was like 6.1 would be fine enough to offset my tap water. My runoff is like 6.7-7.0. I'm assuming the pH is so high because I was watering for months with 7.8-8.0 and it was slowly bring my soils ph to that level too.
Can you use too much ph up and down? Would it ruin the water?
Yoo, I had a plant and accidentally put way too much white distilled vinegar in my water to water the plant and watered at 5.0, I have flushed with 4 gallons of 6.5 ph water and got the runoff to 6.4, what are the chances it will survive
Depends on what your growing. Most everything loves 6.2 - 6.8 so you should be good just water in range
So if I'm using all microbe I don't need to pH?
What ph would you recommend for hydro nutes in soil?
6.2
What do white veins on leaves mean? Is it a bad thing if so how could it be solved
Wind burn
hello peeps... I am attempting to be organic and find that my water, on average is low ph... I have top-dressed the pots with dolomite lime, and have since sourced that this will bung my microbes, etc... why is it so fning impossible to find a natural way to constantly ph up?
terry mcnickle I use baking powder to ph up... I prefer it to neat chemicals!
growmouse made an automatic ph monitor and adjuster. too bad theyre not for sale.
Jungles Bongles helpful
Im in coco and I am watering/feeding at about 6ph, but my run off is about 7.3? I can't seem to correct it?
measuring the ph of runoff in coco is unreliable. feed it daily with nuts. ph 5.7..if you can use ro water and an airstone, supplement with lots of calmag.
Cool hat.
I live in the boonies & have to use well water that is 7.7 on the ph scale....so i'm having issues.....cal & mag problems....heading to the grow store today to buy some ph down....guess i'll have to fill a large barrel w/ my water then use the ph down....then water by hand....shit....that's a lot harder than just using my garden hose straight out of the tap...I had lime in my soil mix but it's not enough...think I HAVE to lower the ph water going in...
Lime raises ph not reduces it
Use lemon juice.
Lime juice LOWERS the pH. Facts.
I'm monitoring my pH with a digital meter 6.3 6.5 & in having crazy lockouts & I'm in earlyish flower. And my leaves still look like shit ! I don't have a ppm meter at the moment. She's my biggest plant did look the best now all leaves look just awful. I performed a flush once should I do it again & with what p.h water? I do have hurricane Harvest but that's what I used last time I'd rather just use water.
Brian F what kinda nutrients are u using
Sound like u need to feed the plant's they can't live on just water unless you have a very highly ammend soil
@@matthewdickson7371 do a flush with 6.5 ph water......check your first runoff ppm...if its over say 1200 ....flush it down to 500 to 700 ppm...let everything dryout and start over on your nutrients....
Ok that's good but what about coco grows.
Coco is hydro. It's a soiless medium 5.8 is perfect.
I use to use ph down to lower my water however I noticed the fish fertilizer also lowers ph. Do you think I can adjust my ph with the fish fertilizer??? If I’m guessing this right. The mixture I pour into the soil (outdoor). Needs to be 5.5 to 6.5.
diamond nectar adjusts ph
Why are my seedlings stunted and pale? 8.9ph tap water..... oopsie.
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And this is y I stoped growing to much bs