Christmas Is Cancelled In The FOSS World

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  • čas přidán 23. 12. 2023
  • Random FOSS applications include a Santa hat icon around christmas but as you might expect they often get people coming through asking them to remove it so let's have a quick look at some of those instances.
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  • @roo79x
    @roo79x Před 6 měsíci +709

    "Snowflakes are offensive because I'm Australian and it's summer." I lost it laughing when you said that

    • @KingKrouch
      @KingKrouch Před 6 měsíci

      Australians are snowflakes so it tracks lol

    • @AURON2401
      @AURON2401 Před 6 měsíci +21

      Yeah, it should be a river because of our flood season, or rain which represents the water.

    • @KaiHenningsen
      @KaiHenningsen Před 6 měsíci +12

      @@AURON2401 Well, a river would also work for me as a German in winter. I mean, I remember when we had snow at Christmas. But climate change put a stop to that. Now we instead get reports of flooding.

    • @billeterk
      @billeterk Před 6 měsíci +5

      Well… summer might be an exaggeration down here in Melbourne ;-)

    • @AURON2401
      @AURON2401 Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@KaiHenningsen Climate change has ruined so many lives.
      Pity we all have to spend our times swimming, instead of singing and drinking.

  • @Willow1w
    @Willow1w Před 6 měsíci +353

    Fun thing about open source - you can fork the project and add your troll hats yourself.

    • @Drazil100
      @Drazil100 Před 6 měsíci +44

      Yeah but that involves work and no one would use your fork. It's MUCH easier to clog up the issue trackers with complaints and expect someone else to do all the work. Then when they don't do it you can call them culturally insensitive and feel morally superior for being the "first" person you are aware of to raise awareness to this issue.

    • @haxwithaxe
      @haxwithaxe Před 6 měsíci +7

      I like the idea of troll hats on icons. Except everyday is troll day.

    • @anarcus
      @anarcus Před 6 měsíci +15

      The best thing is being able to tell someone "go fork yourself" and it being both literally and figuratively

  • @Notu1512
    @Notu1512 Před 6 měsíci +451

    Remember: if it doesn't exist, make it yourself. That includes problems.

    • @glitchy_weasel
      @glitchy_weasel Před 6 měsíci +3

      They say the problem is "not being inclusive being enough"
      Bro, how about they include some bitches in their life.

    • @iFlxy
      @iFlxy Před 6 měsíci +10

      Honestly, this commend kind of sounds like the 34th rule of the internet... I'm sorry.

    • @SeanSMST
      @SeanSMST Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​​@@iFlxyThere's a bunch of rules of the internet that are similar in that, if x there is y.

    • @iFlxy
      @iFlxy Před 6 měsíci +5

      ​​@@SeanSMST​​I just thought of that rule, it's nothing deep really.

    • @papato20
      @papato20 Před 6 měsíci +1

      for real!!! xd

  • @zZGzHD
    @zZGzHD Před 6 měsíci +81

    i unironically like the idea of having LOADS of holiday themes for mpv

    • @USB3.2
      @USB3.2 Před 5 měsíci +1

      what if mpv had a different icon for every single day in the year

  • @ijursic
    @ijursic Před 6 měsíci +39

    And all the little programmers were tucked into their beds, and off in the distance a non descript voice could be heard saying, "Merry non descript holiday to all and to all a non descript holiday !"

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před 6 měsíci +6

      Joyous hannakwanzmas!

    • @deth3021
      @deth3021 Před 6 měsíci +2

      As though they would be giving people well wishes.
      They are definitely more of a bah humbug type.

  • @billy65bob
    @billy65bob Před 6 měsíci +23

    There is only 1 remedy for such disorders: more Santa hats!

  • @kiersplat
    @kiersplat Před 6 měsíci +108

    FOSS community having a normal one I see, as usual.

    • @Beryesa.
      @Beryesa. Před 6 měsíci +4

      Right? 😂

    • @clementpoon120
      @clementpoon120 Před 6 měsíci +7

      i thought atheists were a reddit problem not a foss problem

    • @starrymohannad
      @starrymohannad Před 6 měsíci +5

      ​@@clementpoon120reddit is also a foss problem

  • @elyassaa6136
    @elyassaa6136 Před 6 měsíci +122

    Vlc displays a Santa hat on the logo every year, I'm neither a christian nor live in a country where Christmas is celebrated, but i don't really care for it, never had an issue with this.

    • @GameCyborgCh
      @GameCyborgCh Před 6 měsíci +28

      I don't correlate the Santa hat as being religious. This guy 🎅is an invention by the Coca Cola company that is just inspired by Saint Nicholas, these to are quite different

    • @NorthernChimp
      @NorthernChimp Před 6 měsíci +2

      The actual logo of VLC comes from the guys starting up in a hanger full of these works marks and kidding around with them on their heads 😂

    • @Beryesa.
      @Beryesa. Před 6 měsíci +1

      Indeed

    • @freeman788
      @freeman788 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@GameCyborgCh No. The figure has its origins in St. Nicholas, who lived in a Greek community (in present-day Turkey). Apart from the protagonists of the Bible, he is one of the few figures revered in some way by the main traditions of Christianity - Orthodox, Catholic and Protestant.
      In the Netherlands in particular, St. Nicholas is an extremely popular figure. According to Dutch tradition, he threw coins down the chimney of a house to help three poor girls get married. His feast day is also celebrated in December - on the 6th in some places like Brazil and on the 5th in the Netherlands. In the Netherlands, engravings from the 16th century show St. Nicholas (without a beard) wearing a red robe and an ecclesiastical hat. He also carries a staff.
      It's likely that the strength of this tradition also has to do with the yule, a Germanic holiday celebrated in December.
      In any case, the Dutch brought the tradition to the colony of New Amsterdam, now New York, in the 17th century. Coca-Cola made some adaptations to the famous advertising piece that is credited with the genesis of the modern Santa Claus in 1931. But the truth is that the essential elements - the beard, the cap and the red cape - existed long before. The soft drink factory didn't invent Santa Claus.

    • @Mario583a
      @Mario583a Před 6 měsíci +1

      It's just people being uppity.

  • @NuclearFury8
    @NuclearFury8 Před 6 měsíci +47

    clisp (a common lisp interpreter) actually has a menorah as its logo, with it slowly being filled with candles during hanukkah. Other than being impressive that the guys calculate the lunar calendar locally as they do, it has sparked quite a few "offended" messages too.

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před 6 měsíci +9

      That's actually really cool!

    • @garrettrinquest1605
      @garrettrinquest1605 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I'm half tempted to try the project just for that, and I'm not even Jewish 😂

  • @orbatos
    @orbatos Před 6 měsíci +95

    Personally I look forward to seasonal icons, they're cute and occasionally remind me what month it is. I would love to see randomised multicultural ones as suggested so maybe I'll make a few when i have time, ....
    Rather than demanding someone else do it for free on their own time.

    • @4ngeldus739
      @4ngeldus739 Před 6 měsíci +12

      Yeah, adding more icons just adds to the fun. I don't consider myself religious but I was raised under Christian beliefs and I personally think the star of David looks kinda cool and dont mind seeing everywhere even though I'm not Jewish. If anything I prefer seeing all the different religious symbols because I love seeing people celebrating life regardless of my own beliefs

    • @softwarelivre2389
      @softwarelivre2389 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@4ngeldus739Christmas on US and Europe is fine, but for other parts of the world, it's western agenda trying to impose itself on Free and Open Source software. We don't need those cultural references in India, China, Brazil, Ghana, Taiwan, and many other places. That's why it is a problem. Those who have internet access AND free time to contribute AND the knowlegde to contribute are already an elite, and unfortunately those happen to be, from the most part, from places with a certain cultural agenda. Of course no one will see a problem on the US or Europe, it's their culture. But don't assume so in other places of the world. The religion complaint is kinda irrelevant tho.

    • @blambi_
      @blambi_ Před 6 měsíci +7

      Only issue I would see with adding for example say jewish and muslim holidays are well neither base their holidays on the Gregorian calendar. But thankfully there are libraries for that for example libhdate (jewish calendar), lets not get into details like when a calendar day starts.
      I wouldn't mind having mpv be able to save screenshots with jewish dates (i.e 13th of Tevet 5784) but dragging in multiple libraries to get fancy icons at the correct dates might be a bit overkill even if a nice gesture.
      My point isn't to reduce the will to add stuff, rather point out it's a bit tricky.

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před 6 měsíci +1

      I want apps to start adding easter icons, because I think it will be hilarious to see programs crucifying their logo once a year.

    • @liquidmagma0
      @liquidmagma0 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@blambi_ just add it as an optional dep/plugin.

  • @jorge28624
    @jorge28624 Před 6 měsíci +141

    I don't check the civil calendar, nor even the liturgical calendar to know if it is Christmas, I just check mpv issue tracker for that.
    Merry Christmas, Brodie.

  • @glitchy_weasel
    @glitchy_weasel Před 6 měsíci +114

    "Being offended is not an argument, and will never be."
    So true!
    Sometimes, people complain about others not being inclusive, but fail to realize they're the ones excluding themselves out for no other reason more than being annoyed.

    • @jasamkrava
      @jasamkrava Před 6 měsíci +19

      I feel offended when someone says they feel offended :)

    • @Mempler
      @Mempler Před 6 měsíci +9

      i am VERY OFFENDED by this comment delete it NOW!!!!
      if it wasn't obvious, this is a joke.

    • @KaiHenningsen
      @KaiHenningsen Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@jasamkrava I could see being offended when an American or European used the swastika as a symbol. Some things really should be seen as offensive. But those are extreme cases.
      Hey, maybe you should have your OS know which religion you are, so everyone can automatically display appropriate symbols! ... but make it optional, if you ever want German customers, who don't want their computers to know too much about them. (Google is finally filming again in Germany - after how many years?)

    • @jort93z
      @jort93z Před 6 měsíci +6

      I think some things can certainly be offensive to the point that they should be removed.
      For example, making the logo into a plane on September 11th to commemorate 9/11 would be offensive. Or making the logo into a swastika on the 9th of November to commemorate the Kristallnacht would also be very offensive.
      But taking offense to a Santa hat is a bit silly imo.
      If they don't like it they can "go fork themselves"

    • @Mempler
      @Mempler Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@KaiHenningsen Though, swastika is a symbol of piece and gold fortune no? just my country f*cked it up at one point lol
      _technically speaking austrians fault, but our fault for falling for it_

  • @ajwh0
    @ajwh0 Před 6 měsíci +219

    As a Jew, I find the notion of Jews getting that offended by a Santa hat etc. absolutely insane. Whoever they are, if they’re not trolls, they must be absolutely miserable a couple months of every year seeing those accursed hats everywhere when they should just chill and quietly celebrate Chanukah

    • @AURON2401
      @AURON2401 Před 6 měsíci +54

      If they're offended because it's a "Christian symbol", they should stop being offended.
      Santa and the santa hat isn't even remotely christian.

    • @le9038
      @le9038 Před 6 měsíci +9

      @@AURON2401 Though it does come from some Christian roots (Saint Nickolas, Celebration of Christ), you do not have to be a Christian to celebrate it. one of the key axoms of celebration is being a good person and to keep on giving. nobody should have an issue with it.

    • @AURON2401
      @AURON2401 Před 6 měsíci

      @@le9038 ?
      It has 0 Christian roots at all. It's origins has always been pagan to begin with, Christians adapted it into their religion, stealing it, even.
      It's almost like they didn't have any religion to begin with.

    • @myria2834
      @myria2834 Před 6 měsíci +22

      ​@@le9038 Christmas's "Christian roots" is actually a pagan holiday that was appropriated to try and trick the less devout into converting before resorting to more messy and direct genocide tactics. Same as the vast majority of other "Christian" events.

    • @blambi_
      @blambi_ Před 6 měsíci +5

      You are aware chanukah ended on the 15th? So not much to celebrate currently.
      Another jewish perspective, I don't care what other people do as long as they don't force me to participate. And if there will be some religious graphics in applications I use I would prefer if I could disable it. But then again I've never seen this specific even if I'm a long time mpv/mplayer user. But I would assume its not to hard to fix yourself if needed, I would suspect you don't even need to patch, compile etc just overwrite the chrismas logo with the normal one and done.

  • @cluesagi
    @cluesagi Před 6 měsíci +127

    It's the FOSS equivalent of being offended by a cashier saying "Merry Christmas"

    • @ordinaryhuman5645
      @ordinaryhuman5645 Před 6 měsíci +6

      I was just complaining because someone brought "Holiday Cookies" from the grocery store instead of "Christmas Cookies". Truly deplorable.

    • @clementpoon120
      @clementpoon120 Před 6 měsíci +4

      seriously though we really have better things to do than opening pr requests like these

    • @kreuner11
      @kreuner11 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Which nobody actually is by, most of these are pretty trollish

    • @kreuner11
      @kreuner11 Před 6 měsíci +6

      ​@@ordinaryhuman5645yeah it is truly the end of the world, it must be a merry Christmas and cannot be a happy holiday in any way

    • @TentacularTaku
      @TentacularTaku Před 6 měsíci +1

      In my experience, it’s “Happy Holidays” that’s gotten customers more upset.

  • @le9038
    @le9038 Před 6 měsíci +133

    This is the average attitude of a Santa Denier. Whenever they see anything Christmas related, they want it out of their sight complaining that it's a false holiday and they want it removed ignoring all of the signs of the big red man and his existence.

    • @MaartenT
      @MaartenT Před 6 měsíci +6

      While a lot of what Christmas is today IS somewhat of a "stolen" or "adopted" pagan holiday that as far as I know was adopted/used by the Christian to try and convert them to Christianity originally (lookup yule). I am pretty sure Santa was originally something that came from the Nordic countries (he was not red) and was adopted later on, not sure if the Christians used it, but possibly. But honestly, while I don't care at all for the atmosphere this time of year (probably my least favourite time of year) and I am an atheist, I couldn't care less that some icons have the Santa hat, I don't see how anyone could care about that.
      And overall, I assume most cultures and religions have stuff for Winter and Summer as it was very important to agriculture. The Santa hat has nothing to do with all of that.

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před 6 měsíci +15

      Santa deniers are worse than the flat earthers.

    • @stevefan8283
      @stevefan8283 Před 6 měsíci

      at least they are not satan believers

    • @LinuxPlayer9
      @LinuxPlayer9 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Santa deniers when logo with a hat : angry face and tears

    • @Mr.Heller
      @Mr.Heller Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@AnonymousGentoomanIn Roman empire, specifically a colony of it, which today is a part of Turkie.

  • @MrOrtmeier
    @MrOrtmeier Před 6 měsíci +3

    "Please stop using VLC. It will make us both happier" - LOL!!! F'ING BRILLIANT ANSWER!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @act.13.41
    @act.13.41 Před 6 měsíci +9

    There are people who wake up every morning looking for something/anything to offend themselves with. They are usually successful. These are the most miserable people you have ever met and they want everyone else to be just as miserable as they are. Tell them where to shove it.

  • @Lampe2020
    @Lampe2020 Před 6 měsíci +11

    MPV's christmas hat disabling option is named funnily though, if I understand it correctly after the Grinch XD

  • @danni222
    @danni222 Před 6 měsíci +18

    happy birthday jesus🎉🎉🎉

  • @gingerbeargames
    @gingerbeargames Před 6 měsíci +6

    if the response to someone bring up an issue like this isn't 'do it yourself or fuck off' then it's the wrong response

    • @BrodieRobertson
      @BrodieRobertson  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Removing the logo is one thing but demanding hundreds of hours of graphics work is insane

    • @MisakaMikotoDesu
      @MisakaMikotoDesu Před 6 měsíci

      No one is forcing you to use the software then. There are plenty of video players that are neither mpv or VLC. I'm sure many of them are great video players in their own right.

  • @SnakePlissken25
    @SnakePlissken25 Před 6 měsíci +82

    So many things can and should be solved with a simple "fuck off and touch grass"

    • @matthias6933
      @matthias6933 Před 6 měsíci +11

      Unfortunately a deserved rude response can get quickly turned into political ragebait materials posted all over social networks, if these trolls put their worthless identity in front and center of an issue discussion - and it wouldn''t surprise me for one bit, if they post issues like these solely to get maintainers in trouble.

    • @lucas7061
      @lucas7061 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Yeah, this kind of issues shouldn't go any further from the maintainer saying "I don't give a shit" and locking the discussion, and so on for every issue that pops up. However, that would eventually take a toll on maintainers that have to deal with it.

    • @matthewrease2376
      @matthewrease2376 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Well the second part yeah, touch grass.

    • @manitoba-op4jx
      @manitoba-op4jx Před 6 měsíci

      @@matthias6933ban them

  • @TourFaint
    @TourFaint Před 6 měsíci +9

    Why are people even feeding the troll? I don't understand, "don't feed the troll" was something i was taught when i first got an internet connection. The discussion on this topic is not warranted, as it was started by an obvious troll. Years ago it would just be ignored and i don't get why people started to feed the trolls everywhere on the internet.

    • @victornecromancer
      @victornecromancer Před 6 měsíci +1

      Hi, fellow 'don't feed the troll' user. I think that even people on the peaceful side seems to be eager to get into trouble nowaday.
      Just don't feed the troll guys. Internet would be a happier place.

    • @BrodieRobertson
      @BrodieRobertson  Před 6 měsíci +7

      Feeding the troll is how I make money

  • @comesignotus9888
    @comesignotus9888 Před 6 měsíci +18

    Well, the FOSS comunity already satisfied my ideological quirks this year by issuing kernel 6.6.6, so it would be absolutely fair to let other people enjoy Christmas.

    • @Poldovico
      @Poldovico Před 6 měsíci

      Maybe the ideological quirk in question is an appreciation of metal music ​@@hardikilusdopadikus5465

    • @cericat
      @cericat Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@hardikilusdopadikus5465 that one has been argued about since the 2nd century, with Irenaeus claiming that it was an error and also claimed that people who'd talked to St. John directly had confirmed it was 666 despite the earliest remaining recording of Revelation (Papyrus 115) showing χιϛ and the having it fully written out as hexakosioi deka hex. So yeah that argument is nearly as old as the church itself.

  • @keit99
    @keit99 Před 6 měsíci +12

    Merry Christmas to everyone celebrating it. And everyone Else have some nice holidays

  • @jangelelcangry
    @jangelelcangry Před 6 měsíci +8

    The fact that the code is open for everyone to see/edit shows that it's inclusive enough.

  • @edwardecl
    @edwardecl Před 6 měsíci +5

    If you don't like it fork it and maintain it yourself.

  • @rustymustard7798
    @rustymustard7798 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Starts singing: "De-ck the halls with virtue-signals.,,,"

  • @tato-chip7612
    @tato-chip7612 Před 6 měsíci +11

    People mad Santa gave them coal for Christmas.

  • @le9038
    @le9038 Před 6 měsíci +20

    We live in a world where people complain more than they solve. it has been a growing majority that has stemmed from years of inaction and constant nagging. the fact that people want to complain more than they want to solve shows that they are not the right people to rule this world. and though it may be unfavorable to mention this, but this has also stemmed into politics with people voting for naggers rather than solvers. we have ran out of things to complain about, so we have invented our own problems. you are not meant to please these people, tell them to do it themselves.

  • @Flash136
    @Flash136 Před 6 měsíci +33

    Sometimes, people who are offended deserve to be.

  • @MisakaMikotoDesu
    @MisakaMikotoDesu Před 6 měsíci +27

    Being polite doesn't mean being a doormat. You're going to get offended at some point in life, deal with it.

  • @MrOrtmeier
    @MrOrtmeier Před 6 měsíci +5

    That snowflake choice was brilliant! LOL!!

  • @tato-chip7612
    @tato-chip7612 Před 6 měsíci +71

    Brodie, first one is not actually a troll issue, he is the same outside github in his fedi account.

    • @doublinx2
      @doublinx2 Před 6 měsíci +39

      Oh, how pleasant, they are authentically that pedantic.

    • @fotnite_
      @fotnite_ Před 6 měsíci +1

      I went and checked, and it looks like they're one of those irony-poisoned schrodinger's asshole people where everything they say is simultaneously trolling and not trolling and collapses to one or the other based on whatever makes them look better in any situation.

    • @accountid9681
      @accountid9681 Před 6 měsíci +5

      are you sure his entire fedi account isn't also a troll?

    • @felixjohnson3874
      @felixjohnson3874 Před 6 měsíci +12

      ​@@doublinx2as a proud pedant myself I must point out that pedantry is being overly fixated on exact details/rules, al a "Frankenstein wasn't the monster" or, for double points, "the scientist's name was Victor von Frankenstein and you inherit your parents' last names so 'Frankenstein' was both the monster AND scientist", here however being rule fixated wasn't really the problem. My official diagnosis for this however is a severe jolliness deficiency and a terminal case of "just a fucking git" syndrome.

    • @Psychx_
      @Psychx_ Před 6 měsíci

      @@doublinx2 more like degenerate…

  • @excidium_
    @excidium_ Před 6 měsíci +12

    It's specially funny because associating christmas with santa actually pisses off christians the most

  • @LokiScarletWasHere
    @LokiScarletWasHere Před 6 měsíci +4

    I see that katakana.
    I see you're a man of culture as well.
    Meri kuri indeed.

  • @wannafedor4
    @wannafedor4 Před 6 měsíci +15

    This video may or may not have influenced my writing for my family’s Christmas cards…

  • @fotnite_
    @fotnite_ Před 6 měsíci +45

    damn the living embodiment of the antitheist stereotype really does exist
    Look, I'm down for trolling annoying Christians and their weird attempts to insert their religion into everything around the holiday season. But come on dude, santa and the holiday stuff around him is barely even religious at all, if you wanted to make your own MPV fork to do this that would be fair enough (and actually pretty funny) but insisting that someone else do all the work for it is very silly.

    • @lucas7061
      @lucas7061 Před 6 měsíci +8

      Santa is not religious at all. It's a fictional character made purely for commercial reasons. I don't get why so many of these guys complaining online fail to see that.

    • @comet.x
      @comet.x Před 6 měsíci

      since when is the fat coca cola man religious

    • @Psychx_
      @Psychx_ Před 6 měsíci

      It's because these degenerates are stuck in an endless cycle of feeling entitled and then offended, manifesting almost as if there was a mass outbreak of histrionic personality disorder. Such people need to be told to "f_ck off until they can properly behave" way more often.

    • @OSCrustacean
      @OSCrustacean Před 6 měsíci +7

      ​@@lucas7061 wdym? santa was my favorite part of the Bible

  • @unusedengine
    @unusedengine Před 6 měsíci +47

    The description has a typo: Instead of "santa hat" you mistyped "snata hat"

    • @JohnDoe-ou7br
      @JohnDoe-ou7br Před 6 měsíci +41

      Submit the typo correction as a pull request and I am sure he will commit it

    • @ayumitoshiyuki5619
      @ayumitoshiyuki5619 Před 6 měsíci +43

      with the amount of typos in brodie's videos, just be thankful he didn't mistyped it as "satan hat"

    • @arkvsi8142
      @arkvsi8142 Před 6 měsíci +9

      Satan is the true Santa

    • @IoraTera
      @IoraTera Před 6 měsíci +8

      Snata Clause

    • @ayumitoshiyuki5619
      @ayumitoshiyuki5619 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@arkvsi8142 i personnally agree with you on that one

  • @someguy9175
    @someguy9175 Před 6 měsíci +9

    is Christmas even a Christian holiday anymore? we just give presents to family and use imagery of a Coca-Cola mascot from the 60's and pine trees with snow.
    fun fact: Jesus birthday(or whatever it was) has nothing to do with coke, wasn't in December and there is no snow in Jerusalem.

  • @Kolor-kode
    @Kolor-kode Před 6 měsíci +5

    It should be more socially acceptable to close some issues with a simple "fuck off".

  • @ryuketsuekiofficial
    @ryuketsuekiofficial Před 6 měsíci +8

    And that is why you can't have nice things anymore.

  • @loxisito9533
    @loxisito9533 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Merry Christmas, Brodie!
    Next time record the outro and forget about the main part :0 haha you’re awesome, thanks for another year of whispering news from the FOSS world

  • @sweetbabyalaska
    @sweetbabyalaska Před 6 měsíci +11

    Santa is literally not even Christian lmao Santa gets his roots in the 1680s as an icon of festivity, it wasn't until way way later that a single person wrote a book merging the idea of St. Nicholas (the real person) and Santa. Its a long boring ass story tbh byt idc if they "adopted" it because December celebrations have almost nothing to do with religion for the majority of people.

    • @fotnite_
      @fotnite_ Před 6 měsíci

      my understanding of Santa is that he's derived from a combination of Christian folk tales of Saint Nicholas and Germanic Pagan stories about Woden/Odin and the Wild Hunt, which had already merged by the time Martin Luther came around.

    • @Mempler
      @Mempler Před 6 měsíci +2

      As an atheist, i do not believe in christmas, but i certainly do believe my stocks in the Coca-Cola Company.

    • @BobCollins42
      @BobCollins42 Před 6 měsíci

      You're not going to win here. There are religions which are offended by festivals and merriment.

  • @kxuydhj
    @kxuydhj Před 6 měsíci +39

    the santa hat is a representation of capitalist christmas, which is about as related to Christian Christmas as BSD is to Linux.

    • @jamesphillips2285
      @jamesphillips2285 Před 6 měsíci +3

      So your are saying they appear to be very similar: but have different philosophies?

    • @tux_the_astronaut
      @tux_the_astronaut Před 6 měsíci +13

      @@jamesphillips2285 santa was invented by a soda company to market stuff during the holidays

    • @BrodieRobertson
      @BrodieRobertson  Před 6 měsíci +6

      Was it a soda company, I actually don't know the origin

    • @jamesphillips2285
      @jamesphillips2285 Před 6 měsíci +12

      @@BrodieRobertson The Red and White Santa is from a Coca-Cola commercial.

    • @softwarelivre2389
      @softwarelivre2389 Před 6 měsíci +7

      ​@@jamesphillips2285the original celebration comes from Europe, it was a nordic celebration to Odin if I'm not mistaken. I could be deeply mistaken tho

  • @Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT
    @Eren_Yeager_is_the_GOAT Před 6 měsíci +12

    merry christmas everyone 🎄

  • @trevorschrock8259
    @trevorschrock8259 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Clearly what we need is an additional ISO standard following ISO 639-1 and ISO 1366-1 formats, where a chosen religious selection can be specified. So, for example, we'd have
    en-US-At for English-speaking American atheists
    de-AT-Ch for German-speaking Austrian Christians
    etc. Set your locale on system install, and all browsers and other apps an be tooled to respect the standard, and show only those custom icons appropriate to the deeply held beliefs of the individual user.

  • @linuxphile9436
    @linuxphile9436 Před 6 měsíci +5

    The most ironic thing at 10:45 is that the swastika is actually a Hindu religious symbol for peace and prosperity. The symbol used by the Nazis is called the Hakencrauz

    • @fredericjaquet3729
      @fredericjaquet3729 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Even more : the hindu swastika has it's "arms" reversed comparing to the "little bohemian corporal's" one, it explains pretty much in a single logo the very purpose of Dolfi's program : war and destruction. Merry Christmas linuxphile !

  • @ElderSnake90
    @ElderSnake90 Před 6 měsíci

    Merry Christmas, Brodie!

  • @INeedAttentionEXE
    @INeedAttentionEXE Před 6 měsíci +2

    Merry Chrysler and a Hail Santa!!

  • @davidturcotte831
    @davidturcotte831 Před 6 měsíci +2

    It's a Santa hat. Last time I checked, that was a secular tradition involving lying to children by telling them Odin is going to give them presents. There is no Santa in the Bible.

  • @minigpracing3068
    @minigpracing3068 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Uggg!!! We live in a clown world!

  • @mikehunt3205
    @mikehunt3205 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Now I'm wondering what a narcissist themed icon look like.

  • @iliqiliev
    @iliqiliev Před 6 měsíci +14

    I loved the part where Jesus said 'It's Christmas' time!' and Santaclaused all over the bad guys.

  • @13thravenpurple94
    @13thravenpurple94 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Excellent video 👍 Thank you 💜 and Merry Christmas 🎁🎄🎅

  • @Louis-L186
    @Louis-L186 Před 6 měsíci +38

    Wait … Santa is one of the thing Christians complain the most about since it's basically turning Christmas into a capitalistic holiday, I'm confused now 🤔

    • @Hamtarotaro
      @Hamtarotaro Před 6 měsíci +7

      This a US thing, in EU no one cares especially christians, mostly because we similar holidays like santa (Saint niklaas in Northern EU for example)

    • @MaartenT
      @MaartenT Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Hamtarotaro
      The whole Santa thing comes originally from the Nordic countries if I'm not mistaken, so it comes originally from Europe and it's very old, probably from before Christianity came to Europe. So that's why a lot of countries have something similar, like Sinterklaas for example in my country Belgium and in The Netherlands. It's a bit earlier (December 5th), but it's basically very similar to Santa. I really don't see the big fuss about the icons even though I really dislike the Christmas atmosphere, it's such an unimportant thing.

    • @rkdeshdeepak4131
      @rkdeshdeepak4131 Před 6 měsíci +2

      ”capitalistic holiday” based

    • @matthewrease2376
      @matthewrease2376 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Actually the problem with Santa is that you're literally lying to your kids, that's pretty messed up. And to make it worse, you're being a hypocrite, because you teach (hopefully) your children not to lie.
      Also also; it's very damaging to their walk with Christ, to make them believe something they can't see, only to do a rug pull on them when they get older and find out it's fake...

    • @anonymousalexander6005
      @anonymousalexander6005 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ⁠​⁠@@MaartenTIt started as kind of a mixture of Sinterklaas and Saint Nicholas, gained cultural significance in the old peom where he was originally depicted as an old elf, and then popularized by Coca-Cola with their brand colors (red and white) in a massively successful marketing campaign, much like KFC’s marketing campaign for Christmas in Japan. If there ever was a line between the secular and religious holiday, it’s definitely celebrating Santa over Jesus, the tree and date and festivities and such have no documented relation to pagan holidays besides maybe Sol Invictus, which recognizes December 25th as Christmas in its oldest document so it’s either way.

  • @GeekIWG
    @GeekIWG Před 6 měsíci +8

    Christmas is for everyone. Merry Christmas to all!

  • @quintit
    @quintit Před 6 měsíci +3

    This is like C# compiler (Roslyn, pull 3507) issue that replaced all instances of "whitelist" with "globalignorelist" 😂😂
    Or, basically any time they change the slave/master terminology. How do people become like this 😂

  • @nobloat5702
    @nobloat5702 Před 6 měsíci +15

    I know these people are being too dumb, but I somewhat understand the feeling. I am from a Muslim background and never lived in a western country, so the symbolism of the hat just doesn't invoke anything for me. It doesn't bother me or anything but it sometimes feels that the holidays of the west are taken to be the Universal holidays.There are some people in the west who are under the impression that everyone is celebrating their holidays. We always have this impression online. This is the effect of many projects being run in places where they celebrate these holidays, so it's understandable. But sometimes it feels strange when too many logos and websites change on you and assume you are by default celebrating. It's not something that warrants these teenage atheist rebellion, it's just a mildly nagging feeling

    • @BrodieRobertson
      @BrodieRobertson  Před 6 měsíci +9

      I totally understand not wanting to celebrate a particular cultures holiday, even if you live in it

    • @SlinkyD
      @SlinkyD Před 6 měsíci

      Be thankful you're experiencing it externally. It will show up to your door you gotta deal with it. No escape.

    • @pureheroin9902
      @pureheroin9902 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@SlinkyDwhat?

    • @arjix8738
      @arjix8738 Před 6 měsíci +2

      A huge part of the world celebrates Christmas to some extent.
      Even the japanese kinda do it, although they just eat KFC as a celebration lol.

  • @mariolis
    @mariolis Před 6 měsíci +1

    both MPV and VLC have based takes on this
    but i do expect consistency from my software , i dont have any problem with it it being a santa hat , i just expect the logo of the software I use to just be the logo , not the logo plus decoration nor do I expect the logo i see to change unless the official logo has actually changed ... this is why I believe that instead of changing it with the option to turn it off should not be the way to do this but maybe just include a notification informing the users how they can turn the decoration on if they want to , in a similar way to the VLC update notifications

  • @velho6298
    @velho6298 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Merry Christmas Brodie! I am eating a lot of food and doing some profiling of my embedded webserver to do some FPGA acceleration of the crypto functions due to my garbage processor! Happy holidays!

  • @dreamcat4
    @dreamcat4 Před 6 měsíci

    love it. absolutely great and made my day. such a nice carry on

  • @tux_the_astronaut
    @tux_the_astronaut Před 6 měsíci +4

    This is just the grinch’s latest plot to destroy Christmas. By becoming a Twitter user XD

  • @bippaasama
    @bippaasama Před 6 měsíci +1

    As an indigenous European I am offended by people complaining about an element of European folklore, namely the Santa hat.

  • @crusaderanimation6967
    @crusaderanimation6967 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Based VLC creator vs. Virgin vs code

  • @FroZZen98
    @FroZZen98 Před 6 měsíci +7

    honestly, you should just ban people who open political/troll issues, regardless of context

  • @Matt-kabob
    @Matt-kabob Před 6 měsíci

    Merry Christmas!

  • @Minty_Meeo
    @Minty_Meeo Před 6 měsíci +1

    Holy hell, the VLC maintainers in that issue thread are giga-based.

  • @-cj-
    @-cj- Před 5 měsíci

    I've had something very similar happen a lot. I used to run a community that celebrates Pride Month. Every single year, there was always someone saying we should be celebrating veterans day instead. And each time I would always tell them, our community leaders are free to create material and plans to do so. But interesting enough, once Pride Month was over, they would never mention veterans ever again (interesting). One year I got tired of it and kept up our Pride Month material for another month, that got them real angry

  • @inderix
    @inderix Před 6 měsíci +3

    I think it's funny how every year so many people get mad over an svg of a hat on a traffic cone

  • @KatzRool
    @KatzRool Před 6 měsíci +11

    Brodie I'm not getting drunk alone I am on Discord with my mates this makes me normal.

  • @MechMK1
    @MechMK1 Před 6 měsíci +1

    People offended by this quietly reveal how amazing their life is, so that *this* is the issue they deem worthy of their time.

  • @gmt-yt
    @gmt-yt Před 6 měsíci

    Brodie you are the quintessential muck-raker and I love it :P

  • @happygofishing
    @happygofishing Před 6 měsíci +7

    This is a certified Oy vey moment.

  • @KevinLyda
    @KevinLyda Před 6 měsíci +2

    I worked with a software developer who was a Seventh Day Advantist. He wasn't keen on any religious symbolism. There was a tool in our company that would spew out messages for different holidays. He wasn't keen on them - especially the Christian ones. Just a data point.

  • @007arek
    @007arek Před 6 měsíci +9

    Santa hat - bad
    LGBT ideology symbols - ok
    What don't you understand?

  • @pureheroin9902
    @pureheroin9902 Před 6 měsíci +4

    As an Atheist, there's nothing more cringe inducing than some other Atheists. I feel like they have become worse than the people they were against.

    • @xsael8501
      @xsael8501 Před 6 měsíci

      at this point, atheism is a religion. Its just on the other end of the spectrum.

    • @Tsudico
      @Tsudico Před 6 měsíci +1

      There are extremists of almost any topic. One can see that in the console "wars" or even in regards to which operating system you should run. It's almost always the people, not the topic, that are the issue.

  • @progste
    @progste Před 6 měsíci +2

    I've seen this way too many times, this is not just a troll post, this is how these "easily offended" people worm their way into a project to destroy it from the inside.
    Reject it all.

  • @8bitbunny_VR
    @8bitbunny_VR Před 6 měsíci +12

    i did a check through said user on their twitter profile and they have been banned from several streamers on twitch too. i wonder why... lol

    • @Mempler
      @Mempler Před 6 měsíci +11

      bet he/she/it/they/them/zhe/zher also blames other people for what "not gonna repeat that pronoun" did.

    • @bobbybologna3029
      @bobbybologna3029 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ah, one of "THOSE" ... has an opinion about everything nobody cares about lmao

    • @LabiaLicker
      @LabiaLicker Před 6 měsíci +9

      @@Mempler It was very funny when the Hyprland dev changed the "pronoun" tag of one of these whiners to who/cares on the Hyprland discord

    • @Mempler
      @Mempler Před 6 měsíci

      @@LabiaLicker LOL, WHAT

    • @_KondoIsami_
      @_KondoIsami_ Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@LabiaLicker lol based

  • @Darth12000
    @Darth12000 Před 6 měsíci

    So, the FOSS is this year's battlefield for the "war on christmas" ? No wonder there were no gingerbread this year on that theme...

  • @CoreDump451
    @CoreDump451 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Lol, as a Satanist, I find it ridiculous that people want to"satanic holidays" to be included. Our most sacred holiday is the person's birthday, so it's different for each person. Our other holidays are Halloween and Walpurgisnacht, which don't have satanic origins
    Plus, Christmas is really awesome
    Indulge in all the delicious food and candy, spend time with loved ones. beautiful aesthetics, receive and give gifts and buy shit for lower prices; sounds right up our alley

    • @comet.x
      @comet.x Před 6 měsíci +4

      i love how Satanists dont really believe in Satan and just exist to troll the fuck out of over religious Christians
      you guys are great

  • @TurtleKwitty
    @TurtleKwitty Před 6 měsíci

    The easy answer all around would be to have a popup the first time the docration would show and save that to their config "We have a special icon for the holiday period [icon image here]
    Enable | Disable" but somehow its always just "Bah being offended is stupid!" bullshit that comes up.

  • @skillaxxx
    @skillaxxx Před 6 měsíci +2

    If you don't like my FOSS, fork it or gtfo !

  • @JohnDlugosz
    @JohnDlugosz Před 6 měsíci

    I'd love to see different decorations on VLC or other programs, based on multi-cultural calendars. Just like my paper calendar has little notes in the date about some observance or another; does anyone complain about those?
    Different cultures solved the solar/lunar sync problems in different ways, but sometimes the lunar calendar used by Abrahamic religions and Chinese tradition synchronize have a coincidence with the Gregorian calendar as well: One time I went on vacation in Mexico, and had *an entire week* of holidays, including Chinese New Year, Valentine's Day, and literal parades in the street for Fat Tuesday and Carnival.
    This February, Ash Wednesday and Valentines Day are on the exact same day. It would be cool to see the logos combined, decorating VLC etc.
    Meanwhile, the Year of the Dragon starts on the 10th; pretty close.

  •  Před 6 měsíci

    As someone who's from the Republic of Czech
    it is weird to see hat of Saint Nicholas 18 days after Saint Nicholas Day

  • @Abu_Shawarib
    @Abu_Shawarib Před 6 měsíci +2

    lmao I laughed so hard at VLC guy response

  • @TheBackyardChemist
    @TheBackyardChemist Před 6 měsíci +4

    I thought this was going to be about the recent SSH vuln, and having to work over the holidays to update every SSH server and client...remember Meltdown?

  • @jongeduard
    @jongeduard Před 6 měsíci +3

    LOL. Mery Christmas everyone! (oh sorry I am offensive by saying that now)
    I remember that I explored some github issues around logos of VS Code with a LOT of debate indeed, but that was not even around Christmas as far as I know, it was just about the color of the regular logo or something. Apparently there is a lot to do about logos in general.
    I know that for the VSCodium project, which is that modified version with all telemetry removed, they simply do an election and to logo changes every once in a while.

  • @knghtbrd
    @knghtbrd Před 6 měsíci +3

    Close the issue, ban the user from submitting issues. Troll hunting has no bag limit.

  • @FireStormOOO_
    @FireStormOOO_ Před 6 měsíci

    Seems like maybe there's room for a free desktop standard for central configuration of your preferred festive calendar and icons? Super easy in principle to overlay customization onto existing icons or otherwise composite, and also simple to distribute collections of per-app custom icons. Just going to be a matter if anyone cares enough to write code or only enough to bitch at free projects. So much of the mess is how this debate is split across 1000 different repos instead of a project trying to connect folks to their preferred customizations.

  • @IgnoreMyChan
    @IgnoreMyChan Před 6 měsíci

    Brodie, honest question: Did you ever think about why you talk with your hands when reading others text? For the that reads like you're reading it like it's your own voice. And that's kinda the reason I ask this question: It's some times hard to know if you're reading some ones text or responding to/talk about the text you're seeing.
    Edit: Oof, I hope you take this lightly, as I intended it. It's a minor thing I think you could do 'better' (read: differently) in your videos. The content is just great. Happy holidays! 🙂

  • @erinw6120
    @erinw6120 Před 6 měsíci +2

    They obviously meant "Big Brodie Bunny Bellies". There's your idea for an Easter time thumbnail.

  • @somethingcoolgoeshere
    @somethingcoolgoeshere Před 6 měsíci +1

    If only this person heard of desktop files and any image editing tool

  • @IXPStaticI
    @IXPStaticI Před 6 měsíci +2

    I'm pretty sure that a santa hat isn't even a religious symbol, It's an economic one :v

  • @genstian
    @genstian Před 6 měsíci +1

    Happy yuletide!

  • @Ness_and_Sonic
    @Ness_and_Sonic Před 6 měsíci +2

    They implemented something in a configuration file, which is fine. However, just because it's FOSS doesn't mean they've to remove something because someone doesn't feel included by it as there's open source Christian software out there. Xiphos, for example. As for the snowflake icon, I suppose it is funny. I would have brought the hat back and said it's a tribute to Nintendo as a hybrid of Mario and Link's hats.

  • @GabrielTobing
    @GabrielTobing Před 6 měsíci +1

    14:51 Bro, vlc guy ultra chad damn man XD

  • @JacobP81
    @JacobP81 Před 6 měsíci

    1:52 What your reading does sound like trolling to me.

  • @dexterman6361
    @dexterman6361 Před 6 měsíci

    0:10 ... ouch that hurt
    I drink healthy stuff tho so a win? haha
    Merry Christmas and Happy New year fellas :)

  • @jwsxyz
    @jwsxyz Před 6 měsíci +2

    You missed an opportunity to tell people that a huge part of the point of open source software is that users can modify it themselves, that is why I was initially attracted to it. People who would complain to developers asking them to do something as simple as replace a jpeg should just switch to proprietary software.

  • @MelodyGoad
    @MelodyGoad Před 6 měsíci +3

    I wrote one of the comments on the second troll issue by PurryPlatypus that was deleted, and it wasn't even all that inflammatory or even rude in my opinion. I was literally just talking about how I'm an atheist from a COMPLETELY non-Christian family (mom was raised Jewish but converted to paganism before I was born, and dad was raised Christian, but became an atheist before I was born) that has ALWAYS celebrated Christmas, not as a religious holiday, but as a celebration of the spirit of giving. I also argued that that's how even most American Christians celebrate it as well, and have celebrated it for years. I forget if I also included the fact that Santa Claus isn't a religious figure of any kind, but more of a cultural figure in general, but I do know that I ended the comment with telling them that they're overreacting. Anyway, as an atheist who thinks that religion is a plague upon the human psyche, I am joining the War on Christmas, on the side of Christmas.