PGA Tour desperately trying to buy future loyalty from its players, disguised as "awarding current and past loyalty/contibution/performance to the tour"
Golf needs a Premier League (World Tour). I can see many different forms of that but it's inevitable going forward. The shotgun start idea from LIV is key, a 5 hour window where all the best players dominate the TV screen for a viewer friendly length. Then you have promotion and relegation from the second division etc. You need to revise the whole playoff and keeping your card stuff and the answer is a league format. However, the majority of players will try their best to stop it!
PGA Golfers are the one's stopping the LIV Golfers achieving ranking points 100% , Very childish don't you think ? As for the business side of things the powers that be are completely out of touch because for the last 25 years Tiger has essentially done there job for them. They need to forget this 1 man poster boy concept and get back to the way it was before Tiger f^@-ked it for everyone 🙂
So, Norman and Mickelson were right. The PGA limited player revenue. Had no interest in actually expanding the tour. They could've sought more investment well before LIV even existed, but were content to do nothing. Now everything is coming to light and they have lost control of the narrative.
Your right, the PGA were screwing players financially, when LIV appeared alarm bells started ringing, God we better start paying more, have elite events etc. Mickelson knew exactly what they were doing and no won believed him. I hope the PIF pull the pin and start negotiating with the DP and Asian tours and make it global.
If you listen to Speith’s entire comments, it’s pretty clear what he’s saying is the players aren’t making decisions related to matters they’re not qualified to make-presumably things like drawing up legally binding business documents, etc. He does say that the players have a big role in things about the actual golf-things they are qualified on.
Ratings wise you cannot underestimate the power of a well presented golf course like the Hollow. And there are a lot of Rory slurpers and haters (thanks GC for that). I too am glad Jordan and Tiger seemed confident and content with the proceedings. The only reason Jimmy made it this far is because of the whole Wall Street save face firing process. But that man has Been justifiably castrated by the players for a while now; and has been with one foot out the door until they could find an excuse for him to appear to go on his own terms. The pga tour players still need to be involved until they fully get rid of poor management and fill those spots with people whom allow them to sleep at nite like they are not in the final group of a major.
You're Wrong. Golf Ratings are UP. You neglect to add LIV and the PGA Tour with the Majors and Ryder Cup. When you do you'll see that Golf is actually doing fabulously.
Are SSG funding this to support the PGA Tour , or is just a bunch of Investment bankers trying to stop the worlds largest investment fund getting some sort of access into their world? Apart from the equity grants, which seem to be no more than an enticement to keep name players, nothing has been shared about how the remaing funding will be used to promote the Tour . Another podcast has proposed that the player equity may well be worthless, as it remains to be seen how the players can monetise that . Not a stretch to imagine LIV could be very attractive if direct access to majors is granted for LIV performances, as LIV pays their contracted players in dollars.
What gets me is the PGA players seem to think they know what's going on but do they. What about the LIV players surely they must have some sort of input, or is it as usual PGA and Tiger no best for the future of golf world wide. PGA is a joke, it's only US based, even the DP tour has lost out. I can't believe PIF haven't given them the middle finger by now. PIF should be brokering a deal with the DP tourer, Asia etc, take golf to the rest of the world.
The PGAT doesn't want to let go of their Monopoly is why golf is messed up right now !!! They have turned everything into a political war when there isn't one, and all these players shitting on each other is childish. The PGAT has never had any intentions to GROW THE GAME, they WANT to CONTINUE to CONTROL the game of golf !! I quit watching the PGA over 6 years ago, and haven't watched a major event in that long either as these guys THINK its a JOB, well I hate to bring it to them but they are circus clowns performing for us, it's the FANS MONEY that gives them their WINNINGS, not a PAYCHECK!!! Golf is ENTERTAINMENT, not a JOB !!!! Golf has gotten so STALE LIV is a shot in the arm for the better as the cameras hardly miss a shot from any player playing, and it goes by fairly quick, instead of watching a five-hour round with only showing the top 3 players. They have HATED Greg Norman for years and its is their way of showing him how deep that hatred lies and the PGA Powers to be are making their OWN PLAYERS do their dirty work trying to shit all over the LIV TOUR!!!! Golf is changing with all these new golfers coming into the game, the So-called tradition is moving along, they can still have the 4 majors we have today, but LIV can add many more throughout the world to make it a TRULY WORLDWIDE TOUR . LIV is growing the game by taking the game to other countries where it's becoming popular, the PGAT has never had any intention to GROW THE GAME!
The pga is a dying product you should be talking about the new world tour LIV it’s the future pga is the past. Figure it out and move on or become irrelevant 😉⛳️😇😊
PGA Tour desperately trying to buy future loyalty from its players, disguised as "awarding current and past loyalty/contibution/performance to the tour"
I think Jimmy Dunne made it pretty clear that the inmates are running the asylum.
Great take Matt on Max Homa's statement, agree completely.
Name one successful enterprise that is run by the employees. Crickets…
Golf needs a Premier League (World Tour). I can see many different forms of that but it's inevitable going forward. The shotgun start idea from LIV is key, a 5 hour window where all the best players dominate the TV screen for a viewer friendly length. Then you have promotion and relegation from the second division etc. You need to revise the whole playoff and keeping your card stuff and the answer is a league format. However, the majority of players will try their best to stop it!
Rory will be much happier on LIV
The problem with being player driven is they all have different egos. They are all self centered. To many chiefs
PGA Golfers are the one's stopping the LIV Golfers achieving ranking points 100% , Very childish don't you think ?
As for the business side of things the powers that be are completely out of touch because for the last 25 years Tiger has essentially done there job for them.
They need to forget this 1 man poster boy concept and get back to the way it was before Tiger f^@-ked it for everyone 🙂
So, Norman and Mickelson were right. The PGA limited player revenue. Had no interest in actually expanding the tour. They could've sought more investment well before LIV even existed, but were content to do nothing. Now everything is coming to light and they have lost control of the narrative.
Your right, the PGA were screwing players financially, when LIV appeared alarm bells started ringing, God we better start paying more, have elite events etc. Mickelson knew exactly what they were doing and no won believed him. I hope the PIF pull the pin and start negotiating with the DP and Asian tours and make it global.
If you listen to Speith’s entire comments, it’s pretty clear what he’s saying is the players aren’t making decisions related to matters they’re not qualified to make-presumably things like drawing up legally binding business documents, etc. He does say that the players have a big role in things about the actual golf-things they are qualified on.
Grants of ownership in a losing enterprise. This does not look good for the players.
Ratings wise you cannot underestimate the power of a well presented golf course like the Hollow. And there are a lot of Rory slurpers and haters (thanks GC for that).
I too am glad Jordan and Tiger seemed confident and content with the proceedings.
The only reason Jimmy made it this far is because of the whole Wall Street save face firing process. But that man has Been justifiably castrated by the players for a while now; and has been with one foot out the door until they could find an excuse for him to appear to go on his own terms.
The pga tour players still need to be involved until they fully get rid of poor management and fill those spots with people whom allow them to sleep at nite like they are not in the final group of a major.
You're Wrong.
Golf Ratings are UP.
You neglect to add LIV and the PGA Tour with the Majors and Ryder Cup. When you do you'll see that Golf is actually doing fabulously.
I believe Jimmy Dunne over Spieth any day of the week!
Not of the PGA TOUR now!
Rory could be on his way to liv. To pay for his divorce.
Are SSG funding this to support the PGA Tour , or is just a bunch of Investment bankers trying to stop the worlds largest investment fund getting some sort of access into their world? Apart from the equity grants, which seem to be no more than an enticement to keep name players, nothing has been shared about how the remaing funding will be used to promote the Tour . Another podcast has proposed that the player equity may well be worthless, as it remains to be seen how the players can monetise that . Not a stretch to imagine LIV could be very attractive if direct access to majors is granted for LIV performances, as LIV pays their contracted players in dollars.
What gets me is the PGA players seem to think they know what's going on but do they. What about the LIV players surely they must have some sort of input, or is it as usual PGA and Tiger no best for the future of golf world wide. PGA is a joke, it's only US based, even the DP tour has lost out. I can't believe PIF haven't given them the middle finger by now. PIF should be brokering a deal with the DP tourer, Asia etc, take golf to the rest of the world.
The PGAT doesn't want to let go of their Monopoly is why golf is messed up right now !!! They have turned everything into a political war when there isn't one, and all these players shitting on each other is childish.
The PGAT has never had any intentions to GROW THE GAME, they WANT to CONTINUE to CONTROL the game of golf !!
I quit watching the PGA over 6 years ago, and haven't watched a major event in that long either as these guys THINK its a JOB, well I hate to bring it to them but they are circus clowns performing for us, it's the FANS MONEY that gives them their WINNINGS, not a PAYCHECK!!! Golf is ENTERTAINMENT, not a JOB !!!!
Golf has gotten so STALE LIV is a shot in the arm for the better as the cameras hardly miss a shot from any player playing, and it goes by fairly quick, instead of watching a five-hour round with only showing the top 3 players. They have HATED Greg Norman for years and its is their way of showing him how deep that hatred lies and the PGA Powers to be are making their OWN PLAYERS do their dirty work trying to shit all over the LIV TOUR!!!!
Golf is changing with all these new golfers coming into the game, the So-called tradition is moving along, they can still have the 4 majors we have today, but LIV can add many more throughout the world to make it a TRULY WORLDWIDE TOUR .
LIV is growing the game by taking the game to other countries where it's becoming popular, the PGAT has never had any intention to GROW THE GAME!
The pga is a dying product you should be talking about the new world tour LIV it’s the future pga is the past. Figure it out and move on or become irrelevant 😉⛳️😇😊
TV Viewership is down, that’s all that matters.