WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A POKER PRO | RYE Podcast with Jason Koon & Bencb

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  • Bencb is back with another episode of the Raise Your Edge Podcast! This time he's joined by the poker legend Jason Koon, where the two of them discuss just what it takes to be a professional poker player. Do you have what it takes?
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    00:00 Intro
    02:08 Does a cooler mindset help in high-variance games?
    03:48 Why did Jason start playing shortdeck?
    10:55 What is Jason playing at the moment?
    13:58 What would the young Jason Koon have done differently?
    16:28 How did Jason evolve as a poker player in his earlier years?
    18:33 Does poker need to be discussed in order to be "solved"?
    22:23 Advice for those who feel overloaded and struggling for motivation/focus
    36:43 Can anyone become a professional poker player?
    43:23 Who has Jason worked with to help him through any obstacles in his career?
    59:48 Has Jason considered streaming?
    01:00:41 Study routine discussion
    01:23:17 Has the growing amount of series and big online tournaments caused fatigue?
    01:35:48 Jason's upcoming projects
    01:37:21 Outro
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Komentáře • 240

  • @EnjoiEmerica83
    @EnjoiEmerica83 Před 3 měsíci +1

    3 years later this is probably by far one of the best podcasts out there by two of the most humble players. I revisit this when I am having a bad day or week of playing poker to ground me and give me some reassurance it's not all linear.

  • @jimmyjones8399
    @jimmyjones8399 Před 3 lety +16

    jason nailed it with 'getting lost in the game'. cheers

  • @vojtechbartos4990
    @vojtechbartos4990 Před 3 lety +71

    I look up to Jason alot. As a 19yo kid hes pretty much a role morel to me. Cant Wait to watch the podcast, take some notes, use his wisdom to my advantage. Thank you Ben for all your hard work:)

  • @j.sarnak1391
    @j.sarnak1391 Před 3 lety +7

    Hey Ben, great conversation, one thing from a "city boy" who had cousins who grew up on a farm. I think you are under the impression that on the farm you are just kicked back swinging in a hammock. That is only the case if you are super wealthy, if you grow up on a working farm you are going to be busy from sun up to sun down. You learn how to work hard and work smart. You learn how to prioritize, because if you want time for your self, you have to get the farm work done quickly and correctly. (smile) I stayed on the farm for a few summers and it ws tough at the time. BUT I am so grateful for the experience, it really helped me to become who I am today. I had no idea Jason K was a country boy

  • @BlahBlah-uh2yi
    @BlahBlah-uh2yi Před 3 lety +17

    Ben listens well and knows NOT to interrupt during questions. Really enjoyable to watch.

    • @J.Braxton
      @J.Braxton Před 3 lety +1

      Yes-Ben is Goated

    • @stevenkim9173
      @stevenkim9173 Před 2 měsíci

      is this sarcasm? he talks over his guests and drags his question all the time.

    • @TodaysThemeIs
      @TodaysThemeIs Před 26 dny

      Yeah... I think this is a super under-rated quality, so much content on YT is one person interrupting the other over and over again... It's nice to see each person finish their thought before the other person starts

  • @SoFasT99
    @SoFasT99 Před 3 lety +7

    thanks ben and jason for tor taking your time and making this content. we young players and newcomers to the poker world and life in general really appreciate the wisdom you guys are sharing with us. much love. thanks RYE ! really quality content !

  • @19Trigger
    @19Trigger Před 3 lety +7

    This is amazing thank you both so much for doing this... I loved the part about forgiving urself quicker n moving forward. I literally just went thru the same situation n hearing it from Jason is AMAZING... Thanks again

  • @openwork4761
    @openwork4761 Před 2 lety +2

    Just coming around to this video, great watch. I was on the beach w Koon in Melbourne after we both busted the Aussie Millions in 2012 and he was doing backflips while we had a convo about our biggest punts and future dreams. "We are gonna get there man" he said, referring to becoming the best in the game. What a privilege to have watched this guy do work over the last decade and a half and I'm sure there are many more highlight reel additions to come.

  • @valuablesandwich
    @valuablesandwich Před 3 lety +15

    What an unbelievably insightful and valuable conversation. Thanks to both of you.

    • @RaiseYourEdge
      @RaiseYourEdge  Před 3 lety +1

    • @toasty862
      @toasty862 Před 2 lety +2

      i love your user name. not a value sandwich, but a valuable sandwich

  • @DonDwan
    @DonDwan Před 3 lety +3

    Jason Koon's interview for the I Am High Stakes Poker (in 2018) was probably one of the best and deep interviews with an accomplished poker player I had ever seen and had a huge impact on my mindset. Since then, I always look up to Jason as a person and poker player. Amazing podcast episode, as usual, thank you!

    • @tiagomota4734
      @tiagomota4734 Před 2 lety

      Glad to see Romanians saying and talking about intresting things , usuay its just not the case! Are you a poker player or you watch for fun?

  • @JCK2012
    @JCK2012 Před rokem

    This podcast was such a blessing for me. Thanks, guys. The general life commentary was spot on. Wish both of you the best.

  • @tehlaget
    @tehlaget Před 3 lety

    This podcast was really enjoyable. Going through some struggles at the moment and pods like this always make me come out stronger. Thanks Ben and Jason :)

  • @WhAnNa_Be
    @WhAnNa_Be Před 3 lety +1

    Only 50% of the way through the podcast....brilliant Ben, love listening to Jason Koon. Great guy.

  • @MegaUmfufu
    @MegaUmfufu Před 3 lety +53

    Ben is becoming the Joe Rogan of poker podcasting. Great stuff here - I enjoy this podcast so much it has become one of my favorites

    • @RaiseYourEdge
      @RaiseYourEdge  Před 3 lety +3

      big words! Thank you

    • @tasoslefth8375
      @tasoslefth8375 Před 2 lety

      @@RaiseYourEdge A good question was to ask him about his investments outside of poker

  • @drestale
    @drestale Před 3 lety

    Wow, these podcasts are continuing to be really good! Thanks Ben.

  • @Ljouwert
    @Ljouwert Před 3 lety

    Great podcast once again. Really easy to listen to Jason talk. Thank you for the content, Ben.

  • @bekeneel
    @bekeneel Před 3 lety

    Thanks for these useful interviews btw, it's enjoyful to listen to it from start to end.

  • @G0DofRock
    @G0DofRock Před 2 lety +2

    Great info.. only a few months into studying/playing seriously, and this is great, I've been leaning more towards playing as much volume as I can and playing at the limits then working on curbing bad habits/mistakes.
    It's all about communication, information, deception, but most people are straightforward so it's like listening to what they say and responding the best way.

  • @gummersmcgummery2348
    @gummersmcgummery2348 Před 3 lety +1

    Amazing pod cast not just on poker on life I had a lot of tragedy in my life and did not even relies that it was holding my back in so many ways 🙌🏻🔥

  • @JoaquimBdO
    @JoaquimBdO Před 3 lety

    amazing talk between 2 very humble guys. Loved it ! More of this Ben plz !!

  • @3six967
    @3six967 Před 2 lety

    Really enjoyed this convo... Not sure why it stood out from the endless poker interviews, but it did. Thanx Ben 🙏

  • @alexkontogiannis3520
    @alexkontogiannis3520 Před 3 lety +1

    wow one of the best pods i ever watched thx guys

  • @chipdspenser
    @chipdspenser Před 2 lety

    This was an amazing interview.. I love Jason's candor. Thanks so much.

  • @Joseph-ny5rr
    @Joseph-ny5rr Před 9 dny

    This is the best interview I ever watched! I am questioning my personality, my actions and reactions. This is honestly a deep one. New subscriber for sure.

  • @Humanprototype-wh8qr
    @Humanprototype-wh8qr Před 3 lety

    could listen all day to j koon and thats a rare thing. thank you all for the great potcast.

  • @RickyFTOF
    @RickyFTOF Před 2 lety +1

    Great talk again. The psilocybin part that Jason brought up is spot on. The bad trips are the best, face your fears. They pulled me out of severe depression in 2015. But they are aren't for everyone don't expect a quick fix.

  • @jimmyhighroller5366
    @jimmyhighroller5366 Před 3 lety +1

    Great podcast once again, this is by far my favorite so far. It makes me realize a lot of stupid things I do when I play poker so I will try to be more mindful of that. I used to find that watching nose-bleed games and players massive successes discouraging because of my own small-time living at the game. So I stopped paying attention to that and focused on things more important, which helped a lot. Now it's shifted into watching bad regs streaming (and being honest about how good they are, but bad plays are bad plays), but having ridiculous 20k, 40k, or 100k days at times. Then of course when I lose my majors deep in unlucky spots it feels even more devastating. In general, I'm trying to stray away from focusing on other people's things and focus more on my own. As Jordan Peterson said, "Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not who someone else is today." Hearing you guys talk about your upbringing and things you guys have had to work on is just fantastic. It really makes it down to earth and reminds me that there are a lot of things I need to improve on besides poker, especially not being too hard on one's self. I feel like I've aged too much from poker-induced stress. It's not good for the soul. So a very long-winded and probably douchey way of saying thanks for this podcast. Keep it up Benny boy.

  • @MrMontageMan7
    @MrMontageMan7 Před 3 lety +2

    great podcast guys really appreciate it

  • @nathjohn3158
    @nathjohn3158 Před 3 lety

    Had the pleasure of playing with JAKOON quite a few years ago now and he is genuinely one of the nicest blokes I've come across.

  • @nathansmith7335
    @nathansmith7335 Před 3 lety

    one of your best podcasts - thanks

  • @sipopescu
    @sipopescu Před 3 lety +2

    Ben, thank you! Mr. Koon, admirable person u are, big fan of your mindset!

  • @AndJustlceForAII
    @AndJustlceForAII Před 3 lety +13

    you gotta do a podcast with Lex

  • @aalexandress
    @aalexandress Před 3 lety

    Great content as always, thank you Ben!

  • @antonsergheiciuc4666
    @antonsergheiciuc4666 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent podcast. You're a natural, and Koon was a great guest.

  • @kingkong-jm5fz
    @kingkong-jm5fz Před 3 lety

    What an incredible amount of world class life- and poker content ☺♥

  • @b.zitrone4675
    @b.zitrone4675 Před 3 lety

    This content is simply amazing..
    What a demonstration of intelligence and self-awareness !
    Speechless ! Keep it hot guys !!

  • @DejaquezernDenaster
    @DejaquezernDenaster Před 3 lety +4

    Fuuuuck, what Ben said about concentration really hit home. I’m writing this comment while working my job at my desk. I can NOT concentrate on work lately and I think it’s partly distaste for my job combined with social media addiction. ADHD doesn’t help either but I’m ready to overcome these obstacles and put in the work to be bored sometimes lol

  • @micaylinnundlall1266
    @micaylinnundlall1266 Před 3 lety

    Great viideo !!! insightful content Benchy thank you !

  • @isuckatgaming7225
    @isuckatgaming7225 Před rokem

    So good... Really great conversation.

  • @evangach9931
    @evangach9931 Před rokem

    Great conversations from my two of my favorite players!

  • @bekeneel
    @bekeneel Před 3 lety +42

    I would love you to interview Niklas Astedt "Lena900".

    • @kostaskonstantinidis7318
      @kostaskonstantinidis7318 Před 3 lety +1

      Does this guy still beating the game or was a very good player on a sick heater??
      Just curious, have no idea what's going on..

    • @minimon3000
      @minimon3000 Před 3 lety

      @@kostaskonstantinidis7318 yeah hes still crushing

    • @JoEnUtZ23
      @JoEnUtZ23 Před 3 lety

      @@kostaskonstantinidis7318 Lena still pwning mtts

    • @kartikchauhan7494
      @kartikchauhan7494 Před 2 lety +1

      And linus too

    • @sebastiankotke5725
      @sebastiankotke5725 Před 2 lety

      Guys all the Winners are realy good.!!

  • @darrendoyle2819
    @darrendoyle2819 Před 3 lety

    Deadly podcast, jason seems like a really humble dude

  • @4Sight1010
    @4Sight1010 Před 3 lety

    Dont know why, but i always perceived Jason as an aggressive american dude, but he is very cool, chill and down to earth. Great podcaast Ben!

  • @TheLukyntaky
    @TheLukyntaky Před 2 lety

    Im going to try and enjoy the process of life. Whether it is becoming a poker pro, or anything else that life may offer to me. I can't explain in words the happiness that poker has already given me, such as routines, habits, role and inspiration models and I'm still playing micros. Bencb I hope one day I can meet you, it seems that you are a great person.

  • @lordbenji1989
    @lordbenji1989 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the content!

  • @danielbergstrom4080
    @danielbergstrom4080 Před 2 lety

    Great podcast! Someone mentioned you becoming the Joe Rogan of poker podcasts and I actually had already thought about that before reading the comment. The thing that did it was how both you and JRE often (regardless of topic or guest) mentions good values, not being a victim, taking responsibility, staying healthy in mind and body etc. Thank you

  • @LeoMontebello
    @LeoMontebello Před 3 lety

    Great content Ben, please keep It up

  • @DejaquezernDenaster
    @DejaquezernDenaster Před 3 lety +3

    Jason seems like a really good guy. I’m currently considering trying to play professionally so I appreciate this content a ton!

    • @samdrewett3342
      @samdrewett3342 Před 3 lety

      Go for it mate! Least you can look back and say you tried if it don’t work out

    • @TheFartBreakersNr1
      @TheFartBreakersNr1 Před 3 lety

      True but besides playing perfectly there is always luck involved and thats what makes it basically impossible to become a pro

    • @DejaquezernDenaster
      @DejaquezernDenaster Před 3 lety

      @@TheFartBreakersNr1 impossible if you don’t manage your bankroll properly, sure. I’ve been fortunate enough to hit a pretty large score recently so I think with proper BRM it’s possible

    • @stavcho
      @stavcho Před 3 lety

      @@TheFartBreakersNr1 nobody plays perfectly , and most likely never anyone will !

  • @Lucas-iz9xh
    @Lucas-iz9xh Před 3 lety +1

    Another great conversation, thank you for the work!! Any chance to do the podcast with Dan Colman?

  • @johndawgsmoke1245
    @johndawgsmoke1245 Před 3 lety +2

    2 of the best minds in the game

  • @e.a4578
    @e.a4578 Před 3 lety +1

    The world needs more humans like Jason Koon

  • @mrvad3r198
    @mrvad3r198 Před 3 lety +1

    I recently found your channel and been binge watching these podcasts. You are an exceptional interviewer!
    Ps : has anyone said u look like Christian bale? 🤣

  • @robertneagu2880
    @robertneagu2880 Před 2 lety

    Great stuff , thanks !

  • @bossi_plays
    @bossi_plays Před rokem

    Ben is a natural interviewer. Great content.

  • @eyeq7730
    @eyeq7730 Před 3 lety

    I can relate to Jason with the flight or fight responses. I've only really became aware about five years ago that it was a real problem ,that most people I've come across in my life don't act/react like that and i'm no spring chicken. React is the the key word I suppose. I'm trying to be more aware of my reacting instead of responding, however every time it happens now, i'm kicking myself because it seems to be outside of my control until it's happened and pretty quickly I realize what has transpired, but the reaction has already happened. I think that not beating yourself up over it is a good start. Jason seems far from what he's describing about his younger self and I admire him for being open about it!

  • @pokerllama_
    @pokerllama_ Před rokem

    Great Podcast.

  • @mayanathao
    @mayanathao Před rokem

    "was great talking to me..uh you..."hahahha that guy doesnt let jason talk...was fun to watch :)

  • @shibasama4000
    @shibasama4000 Před 2 lety

    Great content!

  • @ScottHedley
    @ScottHedley Před 3 lety +1

    How long did Koon have the virus for? I’m curious how severe it got for him and what his recovery was like.
    Fantastic pod!!

  • @flatline1970
    @flatline1970 Před 2 lety

    Doug Polk's podcasts don't even come close to this level of conversation/interviewing. Good job Ben. Almost never interrupting your guests and when you do you apologize for it. Keep up the good work!

  • @pedrogrr7824
    @pedrogrr7824 Před 3 lety

    JKoon is a best. He should be the real role model for every aspiring poker player - and that includes me.
    Amazing guy.

  • @MRTatsaa
    @MRTatsaa Před 2 lety

    Jason Koon is one of those monster players. What a legend

  • @antoinevandenhende4953
    @antoinevandenhende4953 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome video thanks for the content

  • @misclic2408
    @misclic2408 Před rokem

    again ... ty for all the videos mr bencb

  • @roberthofmann2723
    @roberthofmann2723 Před 3 lety +1

    Now that I have seen the podcast my suggestion for a guest that I would like to see on the show is Jason Koon.

  • @andreialexandru208
    @andreialexandru208 Před 3 lety

    Thank you!

  • @frynfps93
    @frynfps93 Před 2 lety

    theese questions are so good

  • @neverdixs
    @neverdixs Před 3 lety +2

    i know this will be good so i did pay my entrance with the like button!

    • @neverdixs
      @neverdixs Před 3 lety +1

      i was not wrong, very good interview thank yopu to both of you

  • @mucho_poker6146
    @mucho_poker6146 Před 2 lety

    that was nice, thanks!!

  • @josemanuelgonzalez245
    @josemanuelgonzalez245 Před 4 měsíci

    Hard deeds by Jason!!! ❤

  • @goonjanmall
    @goonjanmall Před 3 lety +10

    Like in the dark.

  • @woopty8878
    @woopty8878 Před 3 lety

    "Dont watch Netflix on the side" :)) epic one B!!! Love your roast rants on twitch, keep it as spicy as you can...

  • @andrewhart6200
    @andrewhart6200 Před 3 lety +1

    Jason...you're fairness is admirable...don't change homie...it feels like people do IFFFFFFFF they have to and are backed into a spot but I like to think you wouldn't. There isn't many of us....u know

    • @RaiseYourEdge
      @RaiseYourEdge  Před 3 lety +1

      Great guy for sure!

    • @andrewhart6200
      @andrewhart6200 Před 3 lety

      @@RaiseYourEdge I saw both of your faces when bringing up the subject of ACR....I've been away from the game for a year...is it still as awful a place as the internet has?

  • @clausjuergenwalde7251
    @clausjuergenwalde7251 Před 4 měsíci

    Just ran into this today, what an amazing podcast. Holy #$*&.

    • @Joseph-ny5rr
      @Joseph-ny5rr Před 9 dny

      Same! Honestly the best I ever watched.

  • @stevenwalker9013
    @stevenwalker9013 Před 6 měsíci

    I agree most can’t become pro. Not because most will never have the ability, but because you have to be willing to lose it all. Most people don’t have the mindset to put it all on the line, then rebuild if it goes wrong

  • @Silvertrigger
    @Silvertrigger Před 2 lety

    Just stumbled upon this interview right after the Bryn Kenney cheating shitstorm this week and it was the perfect episode to help me shake off the serious doubts I am starting to have in the poker community. Jason is such a great guy. You are doing amazing work Ben. Vielen Dank!!

  • @paulthompson8642
    @paulthompson8642 Před 3 lety +1

    Nobody talks about the pain... loss.. well its part of the growth

  • @ramseyipe2120
    @ramseyipe2120 Před 2 lety +1

    hey ben, I dnt expect u to ever read this but as someone who has suffered in his early life from things that Jason alluded too, I just wanted to say i found this video incredibly inspirational. Seeing what a success he is and how he had to come thru a lot of personal growth to get there is really encouraging for those of us with a long way to go. I love ur content, its not only great for my game but it teaches one how to gto life - and long term thats more important. thanks. Im older then you and yet your one of my idols. gd luck

  • @technofeeling2462
    @technofeeling2462 Před 3 lety

    Fun thing: started poker again after one year forced break. Up 20 stacks after a week and then this happend:
    Run 20!!! stacks under ev in 3 ours of playing. That all happened on mistakes plo5 card. But I keep going. This time there is only looking forward.

  • @lothararywuen
    @lothararywuen Před 2 lety

    VERY nice&deep insight views, next Talkpartner Mr. Chidwick??, THAT would be very interesting too

    • @RaiseYourEdge
      @RaiseYourEdge  Před 2 lety +1

      You never know ;) Keep your eyes peeled! 🧡

  • @konservaskonservas1883
    @konservaskonservas1883 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video. He mentioned a couple of times that he played via ipad both cash and mtt. How does he do that?
    I thought top level sickos have a certain routine, play on pc with trackers etc.

    • @RaiseYourEdge
      @RaiseYourEdge  Před 3 lety

      If u play few tables in private games then you don't need t a tracker

  • @zakirmurji5953
    @zakirmurji5953 Před 3 lety

    54 min mark: I believe Koon is talking about the hand he played vs. Jake Daniels on High Stakes Poker. Koon had QQ and Jake had KK (top set). The following hand Koon talks about is (I believe) Jake vs. Dwan. Jake had A9 for ace high into Dwan’s rivered flush (97dd). Could be completely off though..

  • @doublea975
    @doublea975 Před 3 lety

    Is there a way to download the podcast to listen in the car ??

  • @d.139
    @d.139 Před 3 lety

    Ben, ist die für uns sichtbare cam auch die, in der dich deine Gäste sehen? Ich finde die podcast persönlicher, wenn man dein Gesicht auch sieht und nicht diese roomcam. Die Körpersprache ist bei solch deepen talks sehr interessant. Keine Kritik, nur ein Verbesserungsvorschlag. Danke für den tollen podcast!

  • @jimmyballs5662
    @jimmyballs5662 Před 3 lety +4

    You gotta have John van fleet on if he will come, he’s a genius and you two would interact well

  • @Patrick-np7qq
    @Patrick-np7qq Před 16 dny

    Bencb to Jason Koon: "Sucking you out, time after time" 😮
    Ben and his english😂

  • @howdiynot
    @howdiynot Před 3 lety

    I would like you to interview Daniel Craig. He is a great player.
    Everyone should always play 75s out of position

  • @andrewhart6200
    @andrewhart6200 Před 3 lety +1

    Great pod you guys! Jason are you back in West VA - doin ok? I'm in VA next door - thoughts and prayers

  • @sebastiankotke5725
    @sebastiankotke5725 Před 2 lety

    Ben seems to find solutions, i played poker for 15 years from nl100 to nl5k.
    To be honest in my option everyone i know like Viktor from nl200.
    Its a hard Grind, alot disciplin and Also good run.

  • @Zenji26
    @Zenji26 Před 3 lety +3

    awesome video ben!

  • @niels8195
    @niels8195 Před 3 lety

    31:55 This is the reason I'm thinking about floating (in a sensory deprivation tank), I've been interested in meditation for years, but I still find it very hard to consistantly do it. Even when I know how much benifits it gives me! I've experienced them! It's still not a habit. I really want to make it a habit and and try out floating. I think it would be very interesting.
    Have you every considered floating Ben? If yes, why would you try it or why wouldn't you try it?

  • @b1gstealer
    @b1gstealer Před 3 lety

    I fucking love Jason Koon. I have man love for Ben too and he knows that.

  • @BareBarre
    @BareBarre Před 3 lety

    Liked before I have listend! Love to see worldclass players on your podcast, so thats my suggestion!

  • @samronalds829
    @samronalds829 Před 3 lety

    JKoon might be the GOAT when it's all said and done

  • @yersonroo
    @yersonroo Před 3 lety +1

    good video

  • @dbow67180
    @dbow67180 Před 2 lety

    You can’t let your identity as a person be your illness or tragedy, that’s just something that helped redirect you. -Jason Koon

  • @AnujKodam
    @AnujKodam Před 3 lety +2

    Would love to see you talk to Charlie carrel!

    • @RaiseYourEdge
      @RaiseYourEdge  Před 3 lety +1

      Would love to have him on the show!

    • @AnujKodam
      @AnujKodam Před 3 lety

      @@RaiseYourEdge and Nick Howard too would be great!

  • @songoku-do3kg
    @songoku-do3kg Před 4 měsíci

    hab jetzt erst 20min geguckt und schon 7 mal werbung gehabt^^

  • @mikemcnally1190
    @mikemcnally1190 Před 2 lety

    So sick that Koon talked about mushrooms. Psilocybin for all!!!

  • @oj6580
    @oj6580 Před 10 měsíci

    Rewatching a week after his historic triton run