The Top 10 Songs You Didn't Know Were Industrial Pop | Tone Deaf with Daniel Graves
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This is so weird. I loved almost all of these songs in particular because of how gritty they where LONG before I got into industrial music and goth wave scene. It all makes so much sense now
That entire Janet Jackson album was ahead of it's time. I would argue a lot of industrial music followed it's influence (not the other way around). Very gritty, hard hitting, and mechanical yet still with groove.
100%
Thanks Daniel, I discovered your music with the song YOLO and I got into the album, now this is one of my favorite genres and albums
Should have included T.a.t.u. All The Things She Said
That's a great one!
Also fun fact about the dummy used for cpr, the face is molded after a death mask of a Jane doe who washed on shore in the 1800s.
I certainly didn't think I was going to end up listening to an entire Kanye album when I woke up this morning.
I think the people that have an issue with this are just too caught up in the semantics of what "is or isn't" considered a certain style of music.
If people didn't experiment, you wouldn't even have your "beloved" industrial. It is, in its roots, "experimental music".
The way I see it, if mainstream artists are influenced by something "out of the norm", and then it gets people to open up to a whole world of music that isn't on the "weekly top 40"...then they are doing the best public service! 😸
Janet and Michael =iconic
Depeche mode samples..were industrial and at the time extremely unique to the game. Some of the remixes are just phenomenal.
Another Song that comes to mind is "Bionic" by Christina Aguilera. She even said it was inspired by her taste in Futurepop and the dark electro scene.
Blixa Bargeld from „Einstürzende Neubauten“ said once in a Interview that they where in the Hansa-Studio Berlin before Depeche Mode.
Their sampled Industrial Percussion was stored on the tape machine and was then partly used by Depeche Mode.
At that time there was no copyright for samples . . .
I didn't know they actually used EN samples! That's wild!
@@ClosetoHumanMusic Martin Gore has said in interviews that they saw Neubauten live shortly before working on Construction Time Again and it was a huge influence on their mid-80s sound.
"Rhythm Nation" is one of my fave songs ever and I was excited to see you include it because it's one of the first I thought of when I saw the title.
IT'S SO GOOD!
Toxic -from Britney Spears. Quite a few of us snuck that one in at clubs. Kylie Minogue -Slow. I agree with these choices, for sure, Daniel.
Oh yes! That's a good one!
Industrialier cover of Slow: czcams.com/video/X80Cha91YHU/video.html
Can't wait to see which artists/bands and which songs!!!!!
I feel like T3CH N9NE is another rapper that is definitely influenced by industrial music - especially his "K.O.D." album.
Tech was best underground imo. Anghellic and Absolute Power were masterpieces
@@Anonymous-fb9dn Agreed. His new stuff is still good, but his old stuff is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Word. He still has flow but different now. I do dig "For The City", surprisingly
Loved watching you nerd out over these inarguable FACTSSS!! Can't wait to see you in LA for the bajillionth time 😊
That Taylor Swift song was surprisingly good. Never heard anything decent from Billie Eilish till that song you mentioned. It wasn't too bad. But you forgot a big one. Call Me Maybe was mixed by Dave Ogilvie. Maybe the song isn't dark, but it has industrial production levels. Industrial musicians are way ahead of every other genre when it comes to music production, because you have to master every tool yourself. There are some more lofi bands, but guys like KMFDM, Skinny Puppy, Front 242, Rammstein, NIN, Ministry, FLA, Hocico, VAC, and you...all know how to write an entire song from start to finish, self record, mix, master, etc... Dial in all the effects, program all the MIDI, design synth patches, apply effects, routing buses, etc... what other genre has those skills? Closest would be rap, and they're 20% as skilled at music production as most industrial musicians. So I kind of think of Call Me Maybe as some industrial production techniques being introduced to top 40 listeners. No wonder it was such a big hit, he really polished the hell out of that song.
"Call Me Maybe" is an excellent song and definitely an honorable mention when it comes to pop mixing with industrial. I would argue that you're right that Industrial producers USED to be on the cutting edge, but I don't feel like that's true anymore. Most of them really phone it in when it comes to pushing themselves and their gear to the absolute edge. Trap producers are doing that as well as video game music designers like Mick Gordon, those folks are the true innovators of our age. Industrial folks really need to step up and take a page from the book they're writing.
Daniel, your voice is in my head playing in the background of my life constantly. My husband just introduced me to your music and I'm obsessed with your voice, your style, the way you move, the RAW emotion you harness and unique, crisp vocals. "Dead of Night" made me cry , from the way you perform. It's almost too beautiful to take. I grasp a pillow into my face as I melt into your vocals. You make my heart smile, and I'm so grateful you share your talent. Thank you from the bottom of my lil black heart.
That's so kind of you! I'm so glad you appreciate what I do. 🙂
Lost highway OST will always be near and dear to me, such a great soundtrack
Eh, some of it...
So many bangers in one place!!!
The entire Born This Way album by Lady Gaga too 🤘
This Is an amazing list! Loved the little facts you dropped for this songs 🖤
Wild Boys by Duran Duran would fit very well on this list.
"Heaven on Earth" by Britney Spears (Blackout album) sounds so much like VNV Nation that I had to check the credits to make sure they weren't directly involved. 'Piece of me' from the same album always reminded me of MSI. 'Radar' is also pure electropop. That whole album really is 🔥
are you high?
Depeche Mode is life, and I loooove the Pumpkins. I was thinking if you would include Katy Perrys “Alien” or whatever that song was, but maybe it’s not gritty enough?? Embrace the CZcams-erness and drop your skincare routine, please.
Oh it’s called “ET” and it features Kanye lol
Lovely video. I'm very much with this industrial pop warpath you've trod upon, if you don't mind the phrase, you've really lifted my spirits! A lifetime ago, I had the great honor of staying as a guest of MJ along with my late father for some time. He was an author of a mass market paperback written in 1983-84 on his time in the 40s-50s nyc foster system; gritty stuff but also read in public schools and for decades he and I went together to homes, schools to juvenile facilities. So yeah, contextually we worked at the ranch on a film project of the book right up until late '03. I just want to thank you because I have not smiled or laughed in so long as we're all going through these times of course. I felt comfortable to share because you put a fine effort to create a chill, kind yet real atmosphere for conversation; it's a great model of how to get it done.
Funny I was then such a rivethead kid who loved Skinny Puppy as if Smothered Hope were the lost words to a Psalm of King David. He would have played that one for sure. *"Everybody knows it's wrong . . . Why don't you care?!"* It's naked confrontation that only the popular idiom can handle, maybe not bumble gum, but the immediacy of all popular songs from all cultures have in common immediate often contrasting basic elements thusly producers and writers in the mainstream, perhaps not so accidentally, also loved those harsh pitched-down noise claps; especially when spanking a chordal wall of the DX7's factory finest "almost-a-woodwind" patch #2 w/ tasteless guilty horrible reverse reverb. Cheers! -P.S. Please do not put that combo into your daw. I might. Not.
The "warpath" as you call it, is simply about expressing the philosophy that drives my art. The fact that it's resonating with so many people is evidence that I'm doing something right!
@@ClosetoHumanMusic You are most def. on the right track! I hope I did not misspeak as "warpath" might be slang or a regionalism. I meant literally: "hot on the track of victory."
Naturally, I mean only jovial respect and maybe nervously feared mentioning my topic in public, at least outside the channels were people reach me (his fan community are awesomely kind people).
Writing this little even has convinced me I need consider just being "me" on the internet. I don't have the guts sometimes to put my name out, be googl-able and do video updates. Serious congrats that you just took that leap!
Omg, I literally only know "Army of me" from goth/fetish parties. I just straight up placed it as scene music, I didn't know that is was mainstream successful!
MJ (especially Smooth Criminal) was a childhood favourite next to everything Depeche Mode. It did start early I guess!
Rhythm Nation 1814 was one of the very first albums I bought with "my own money" as a preteen. It still slaps.
Very interesting!
I actually liked this video, most "Ranking" videos aren't so Niche nor so well informed.
Are you planning on similar videos in the near or not so near future?
Billy Corgans pre Pumpkins band was a goth band. And listen to Trilogy by Weeknd and the song titles alone hint at someone who is pretty familiar with our thing pretty heavily. Also I have seen Taylor live a few times - she is frankly incredible.
Disclaimer: I'm not an expert on industrial matters but I might have a few additions here... Visage - Fade To Grey, that would be a good example of industrial pop for me. Come to think of it, it's easier for me to come up with examples of "goth pop" though. Check out Kerli, Euzen or Shireen (from my native Holland).
This is such an awesome video. I used to play army of me and eye in my dj sets along with
Alice DJ - Fairy tale
Chumbawamba - mary mary(stigmata mix)
DJ Laz - Red Alert
Garbage - #1 Crush
Sylver - turn the tide
I would get alot of shit amoungst the goth elders but everyone else appreciated it or had no idea they just wanted to dance.
Now it all makes sense before discovered industrial I mostly listened to metal and Rammstein and hand full of Synth like Depeche mode. When I heard bad romance Something caught my attention i did not care for pop. Start drifting away from metal discovering Hardstyle and Other EDM and then discovered industrial Though Nachtmahr and Combichrist and I fell in love discovering new artists along the way Blutengel which lead me to Aesthetic perfection the rest is history. Lady Gaga inspired me to not care what people think of me and she eventually lead me to the industrial and Goth music scenes what you know
Awesome list! Also, When Doves Cry by Prince.
Janet taught me how to dance.
Great insight Daniel. Although not straight up Industrial style, I always felt "Frozen" by Madonna had elements of it in the song, but a little more along the lines of a world/new age sound in vein of Delerium.
Absolutely! "Frozen" was a close contender for this top 10!
This is super cool!!
This was an eye opening vid i may just grab a few of these songs
Thanks for this
two people are in the corner angrily smoking cloves
Fantastic! I loved Lost Highway when it came out. Got the cd first time around.
Thank you for this very interesting episode. Random episode idea: most chilling dark/industrial songs in your opinion. IMHO assemblage 23 has several that give me shivers.
More Top 10s?! Oh boy I could become quite the CZcamsr.
How about Hocico ? BTW your songs are really cool too special 'Gods and Gold' it so brilliant it total show whats going ON, I am surprise that the 'Elite' let you publish this :)
Hocico are great! But I said at the beginning, this is about pop / mainstream artists who have taken heavy inspiration from the dark music scene. I am, however, thinking of making a video about scene bands who have taken heavy pop inspiration. :)
I like that Industrial music has such a vast range that it goes with, and how it evolves. Industrial 'noise' goes way back before the synths and distorted drum machines we're familiar with-- back to the 1920s and 30s. Luigi Russolo is probably the Industrial OG back in the 20s with his avant-garde futurist pieces; lots of cred seem to go to him. There's also another avant-garde musician decades ahead of his time, Arseny Avraamov, whose "Symphony Of Factory Sirens" is really something else. There's avant-garde Industrial-style Jazz collabs, too! Pierre Bastien is similar to these progenitors of the genre and has been merging Jazz with instrument-contraptions made of meccano machines, motors, and more since the 70s. He does collabs with other artists as well; the album "Bandiera Di Carta" is a collab with fellow musical experimenters Tomaga, who have the more familiar industrial sound. None of these may be 'Industrial' as the world has come to know it, but its earliest forms and funky takes on tradition :)
I think the most important thing to recognize is that a genre label is just a general description, not a hard and fast rule. At its core, music is fluid and takes on many shapes and forms as it and the artists who create it evolve.
Thank you so mutch you make my ear open
Cool video 🖤💥thx
I also would give an honorable mention to early C&C Music Factory and the concept album An Uninvited Guest by Guante and Big Cats which both have elements interspersed throughout which harkens back or are influenced by our scene (or possibly the influences upon our scene - I can honestly see where similarities would arise when taking in influences from all over - esp within sample culture)
I feel that there was something very industrial about that "Euro-Dance" etc poorly named genre(s) of the early 90s that included any metallic wavetable-y or fm sort of bass usually with a pretty compressed and even distorted 909 kick. I'm thinking of something like "2 UNLIMITED - No Limit" or anything metallic on that KMFDM+ level of cheesy that you just go with the camp.
I put a few of the well known melodies to those dance diva/mc songs into my sequencer and with mild adjustment even What Is Love? was getting dangerous. Ok not that one! I tried.
@@gr3y_eminence I find just anything these days has elements I love - I fully admit I love 90s cheese like the Eurodance stuff - I cannot tell you how many comps of it I have bought over the years - probably more than modern industrial comps. I tend to follow a smaller number of artists I like these days than the entire scene - I have less money these days as well and the older stuff I find used I end up being able to get about 12 releases at a time than just one. It also lets me buy things like vinyl and cassette releases by people like Daniel.
@@dlvnmedia @Dylan Wheeler Yeah man very much where I'm at too. Since I'm into my 30s I try to find the highlights of current "scenes" often loosely similar clusters of acts or scenes I just missed out on or need more life experience to enjoy.
I'll try to pick up a 12" as often as I can but feeling the pinch. Slowly adding, more statisfying though. I pick the ones suited to turning off the world for 45 minutes, grabbing a book or something and having a respite from the overload factor of devices. I caved finally on spotify and frankly it surpised me. A lot of finds and niche stuff.
Glad to hear you appreciate the 90s euro dance phenomena, some great melody hooks, definitely it's more a one or two hit per group thing. I haven't taken a chance yet on cd old comps, maybe discogs if not ebay would do. Cds seem to be uncool thankfully! ahah. I think there are no guilty pleasures, as one extreme helps to enhance another's contrasts. I notice more things, helps with making music. Oh, if don't recall Mo-Do, check it, absurd/catchy. : )
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And today’s song (cause it helps me with going through rehab) is In Time by Robbie Robb which is from the Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure scene in the future and is also amazing - though admittedly not very deep since it’s meant to suggest at the bands future but fuck it - look for the lyrics version and it helps me where I am at current - sometimes a little positivity is all you need
"You should see me in a crown" my favorite song from Billie Eilish 👌
Lost Highway was probably my favorite movie soundtrack for a decade.
Hard same.
I love the Off The Wall and Thriller albums by Michael Jackson. There are some massively great songs off of both of those albums.
Fuck yeah!!! Well said :D
To add on to Industrial heads that talk shit about Kanye, fyi Trent Reznor himself has been noted as saying Yeezus was the best album of 2013.
I wasn't even aware TR said that. However, real gatekeepers would just say TR isn't "industrial" and doesn't know what he's on about.
@@ClosetoHumanMusic www.fuse.tv/2013/08/trent-reznor-kanye-west-yeezus
I find it cute whenever people say Trent and NIN aren't "true industrial" even though he's a pioneer and an early member of Pigface before NIN. Besides Genesis P'Orridge, Cabaret Voltaire and Nurse With Wound, you can hardly get that close to a literal pioneer of the genre haha.
This is why labels should be treated as reference points or tags, not the end-all, be-all. So much music slides between and overlaps many different spheres. It's all a huge, messy Venn diagram.
Absolutely! There are no hard and fast rules when it comes to art!
Wow, okay! I just also watched Look What You Made Me Do. She has gotta be one of us. And Billie Ellish certainly! I hadn't seen that video, but yes! Jaw - floor!
THAT SONG IS SO FUCKING GOOD
Number 9 and 5 really surprised me!
Can't deny ye on this list... however I would say he was probably tipped off on this path because of death grips.
On a semi-unrelated note, an opposite take of the list would consider Machine Age Voodoo being an early industrial band going pop really early on.
Out of respect for you Daniel I have to go listen to some Billboard top 100 songs. Thanks to the Internet I haven't even paid attention to the Billboard charts in almost a decade. I'm not so clueless that I didn't recognize every name on your list, but I haven't heard 7 of those songs.
That's totally okay! As a rabid pop music fan I thought it would be fun to share some of the music I'd noticed coming out of there with a heavy industrial edge.
Me neither. This made me realise I have no idea what's happening musically these days. I've always been on the periphery in terms of what I like but I think since music is now so easily available I just have no interest in the mainstream. I'll go down endless rabbit holes in search of "our" genres but I don't think I could name a single no.1 from about the last five years.
I'm still just as invested in music and I LOVE the availability (no more searching out obscure albums on the basis of hearing a 20 second burst of something amazing and tracking it down) but it means I miss some real gems. Evolution just needs to get a wiggle on and sort out more ears for us all ;-)
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Totally awesome list! I just have to say yes to every inclusion :) Came via Arca to Kanyes Yeezus album, and checked out Rhythm Nation just two days before i saw this video, because of its use of industrial glass-shattering sounds etc. New Jack Swing as a whole is a quite interesting genre in this respect, kinda like early Deconstructed Club imo. Taylors Repuation record, Michael Jackson, the Monster EP...very profound definition of Industrial Pop, Mr. Graves =^.^=
Somehow I knew a Depeche Mode song would pop up in the list... there are a lot of hits though. (My preferred choice would have been Barrel of a Gun)
Barrel of a Gun is a great one BUT it doesn't have actual samples of machinery or was produced by the same guy who produced Neubauten. Hehe.
My fav dark DM song is Fly On the Wind Screen. Lots and lots to choose from though.
Check out the hills KLOUD version, i think it sounds better and more industrial
I don't think I'd pick People Are People as the best Depeche Mode track for this list.
First, DM's inclusion at all is the least surprising one in the list. The electronic and pop worlds would both be COMPLETELY different if DM never existed. In fact, I'd be willing to say that they lead more to darkwave of today than Puppy.
As for the choice of specific DM music, I'd argue that something from Black Celebration would be more aligned with "industrial" sounds and sensibilities. People Are People's inclusion only makes any sense to me if you look at the video's imagery, or if you're limiting the list to songs which obtained commercial success. Taken on the aspects of JUST the MUSIC, I'd think that Flies on the Windscreen, or to a lesser extent, New Dress, fit much better.
I mean, there are so many DM songs that could fit here. However, I wanted to choose something people were widely familiar with. People are People is perfect because of the producer and the story behind the samples used. 😉
An artist usually deemed as problematic as Kanye but you should check out "Young Rapunxel" by Azealia Banks because it's absolutely a fit for this I think
Azealia Banks has so many bangers. The thing is that she isn't mainstream enough IMHO to be included on this list. I really wanted to focus on famous pop / rock acts who borrowed from our thing to make their music.
We need a industrial ver of people are people
People are People is already industrial!
@@ClosetoHumanMusic i mean like a band redoing doing it can you imagine suicide commando doing it.
Does everyone sample when the levee breaks?
Yes. It's like Full Metal Jacket.
I was hoping you would pick Rhythm Nation as your no.1 and you did! Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis made an absolute banger of a track.
Thanks for a list of music to for me to Check out, I was only familiar with GAGA's hit.. playing in one of local spaces, I checked out the Taylor Swift song. and I like it, Thank you!!!
Here's no.11 - check out "Today" by Talk Talk. It's earlier than all of these (1981?) and they were probably one of the first UK bands to start sampling - the animal sampling on "Its my Life" was waaaay before it's time.
But "Today" isn't a banger, it's intensely atmospheric with Hollis' unearthly vocals and there really wasn't anything else like that, most electronica was either poppy or the stark industrialism of Numan and Kraftwerk. I'm an old goff (a horrifyingly old one!) but those TT albums were as influential to me as any goff staple.
PS. Why have I only just found this channel? Now I have to binge-watch all your vids, sigh...it'll be YOUR FAULT when I don't do any work today. Feel bad, you monster!
"this song goes harder than most modern industrial .."
You're, you're joking right??????
Nope. Most modern industrial sounds like goblin trance.
These are great! What about t.A.T.u I’d argue most of their catalogue would fit nicely under industrial pop!
Government Hooker by Gaga also gives me some industrial vibes
Scheisse too. It even has fake German lyrics
Digital Allies feat Richard Luzzi - Without You : way before VNV NATION :-)
or Madonna's Frozen? Cheers
Frozen was actually a very close contender.
Depeche Mode is a staple. Perhaps replace with INXS.
INXS didn't have the same producer as Neubauten who helped them mix industrial elements with pop. 😉
Record labels control like Edward Bernays does...
Дякую тобі людина за крутяцький підгон!👍🏻♥️
I was gonna claim that you were cheating by including Depeche Mode...but your explanation made me accept it.
I am not a woman, I’m a god by Halsey
Great choice! Unfortunately that song hadn't come out when I dropped this vid. 🙃
So is Gary Numan industrial pop now?
Gary Numan is whatever he wants to be. However, I would say that much of his newer work is heavily influenced by modern industrial. It's a funny little feedback loop because the "Replicas" album was a huge influence to the artists that ended up influencing him.
Yeiiii
💜🦇💜
With the exception of the Jacksons and DM... no thanks 😉
To each their own!
Billy Corgan's voice is annoying AF...but, the music of Eye was one of their best.
I prefer dark Taylor. But she's already left that sound behind. Such a shame.
Artists grow and change. I feel like her singer songwriter phase right now is a fun return to form. I have no doubt she'll make some more industrial pop bangers in the future!
To me there is no such thing like „industrial pop“. Industrial is brutal. If its not brutal ist not industrial, end of story.
I politely disagree. If you look at the history of industrial music, it is anything but. I highly recommend you watch my primer video on the philosophy of the genre.
czcams.com/video/iEg1LmfWfqo/video.html
You can't be THAT naive...
Waste of time!