"Tribes" (1970) - Vietnam War Jan-Michael Vincent Action Drama
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- In this social comedy/drama aka "The Tribe" - Iron-willed drill instructor Drake (Darren McGavin) is faced with a difficult task: breaking hardened hippie Adrian (Jan-Michael Vincent). The outspoken Hippie draftee wants nothing to do with the war in Vietnam. Ironically, he's also a skilled marine who excels at every stage of basic training. Although they butt heads, and despite their their philosophical differences, the commander develops a grudging respect for Adrian that puts him in conflict with his own superiors.
This movie was first released on November 10th 1970 (which happened to be the Marine Corps' 195th birthday). For education, entertainment, enlightenment and inspiration. We hope you enjoy and even learn something. Never forget!
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Went thru Marine Corps Boot Camp in 1971 at Parris Island, S. C. What they put you thru back then was for your own good, but you can't put it on paper, with what they could do to you and I saw plenty and took plenty. I made it out of bootcamp with PFC stripes (meritorious) and a whole new attitude that has gotten me thru ruff times in life to this present day. Haven't had a hair cut in years, but I honor my Senior Drill Instructor Sgt. Edward Hart who was a Vietnam veteran. Wish I could find him to thank him personally. Namaste. Semper Fi! From a Vietnam Era Marine Corps veteran.
I went to mcrd 1987 .I was from San Diego so we got meps with Dr jelly finger and cradle cup nuts dragon lady. Shaved head bleeding when barbers ran over moles. Working party and up for 23 hours 1 hour sleep and then day 2.
@@ericpanissidi6761 Thank you for your comment, my Marine Brother and thank you for your service! Take care of yourself and be strong and well. Namaste. Semper Fi!
Marines like that hard ass Master Sergeant didn't last long in combat. Let's just say that they took friendly fire from behind.
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HMC-2 RETIRED.
73:-79'
THEY SPEAK OF VETERANS DAY AND MEMORIAL DAY AND SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THE ONES THAT TRULY DESERVE OUR THANKS ARE RESTING IN THE TOMB OF THE UNKNOWNS, FOR THEY PAID THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE.
THEY STAYED BEHIND SO THE OTHERS COULD GET OUT.
THAT'S WHO I'M TRULY THANKFUL FOR.
I HOPE AND PRAY THAT I'M WORTHY OF YOUR SACRIFICE.
SINCERELY YOUR'S
A VETERAN.
Wow what a blast from the past. What a time. The scenes where Adrian is meditating holding up the buckets like a statue became riveted in my mind. Several years later in basic I conjured up that stamina although we didn't have to hold up buckets. Jan Michael Vincent was a great actor. RIP
Nobody. Arrives in daylight to Paris Island
@@johnthompson9850 They do in Hollywood. ;)
The only part of that movie I still have a distinct memory of.
I hear you. I did the same at Parris Island several years later.
A 'great actor' like Wayne, Cagne, Bogart and others?...
i'm a Hollywood Marine from that time period... PLT 3098, Aug.-Nov 1971.. last series to drill/qual with the M14. Didn't know at the time, early on, why the Drill Instructors had that "looking over their shoulders" feel, was because this flick had just wrapped up filming and many of the production crews were still in the area," packing their trash". I think this was a CBS production and didn't air till the following year. Have to admit, when gathered around the TV, me and all the bro's who where there, had a good time pointing out all the "landmarks" of our MCRD. For TV, we all thought it was well done, and I think it won a few Emmys. Jan Michael Vincent was "the bomb" at that time, and was well on his way to movies..RIP... and Darren McGavin wasn't chopped liver either ! SEMPER FI TO ALL JARHEADS... NO MATTER WHAT ERA
This movie was vary authentic for the marine corps depicting this time frame,thanks to all who served.
I bet the DI's had their heads on a swivel 😂
This movie was originally on the ABC Movie Of The Week
thanks.. been a long, long time and I couldn't remember I@@davek5027
Plt 2071 1968 S.D. I still get chills watching a platoon on the "grinder"
Saw this film at 10. It made an impression on me as it seems to have done for nearly everyone. Seeing JM Vincent this young really underscores his self-destruction. He had it all & lost it all to substance abuse. Such a shame.
IKR ,he was a beautiful man and talented ,however he was sucked into a world of drugs ,decadence and debauchery, what does it profit a man to gain the world, and loose his soul 😢
I enlisted in the Navy as a Corpsman later became a 8404 combat medic, my greatest honor was to serve alongside My Marines!
Thanks Doc. Few are respected by Marines, like Corpsmen.
Thanks Doc, for taking care of our sorry asses ! I'm old school ( 1971-74) and I say to you : CALM SEAS AND FAIR WINDS..... SEMPER FI
Thank you from the mom of a US Coast Guard veteran son (only child). My Uncle was 20 on Iwo Jima - mid February- ??? 1945 & saw his brothers raise the 2nd larger flag. My uncle and his great nephew - my son - were close because they (and my dad) were the only ones who served. I served while he was gone from age 18 to 30 helping veterans, wounded & their families. In fact Joe Mantegna and I correspond often because he, Gary & I helped the same horrifically injured Marine here in NorCal. Some in Hollywood are great men & women & do care. God bless you all- SEMPER FI from SEMPER PARATUS ❤
@@uscgmom9796 Thank You for your reply as my time gets shorter words and testimony are a blessing! Semper Fi,Doc
@@robertkmartin5815 You're very welcome, Doc. Wherever I go, when I see a veteran, I go up to talk, listen if I'm so blessed to hear them, sometimes get to hug, thank immensely and say WELCOME HOME. God hugely bless you, Doc.
I watched it 50 years ago and it’s still good!
Me too.
@@williammasselink: Me too.
It might be good but it's definitely not historical possibly hysterical but not truly historical
Me too… as a former RAAF airman, I recalled this movie and the motto of ours was ‘per ardu ad astra’… through adversity to the stars.
I was young when me and my father watched, at the end of the movie I had to ask him what the term " Went over the Hill" meant.
This movie was made for Jan-Michael Vincent he was excellent. The best part is that visualization with the buckets. One can do the same now and really mess up people. I very much liked this movie and thanks for putting it on. RIP Jan-Michael Vincent.
My mom had me watch this movie when I was going off to Fire Camp. It helped. The bucket thing I still use today. Had a root canal yesterday and zoned out thinking about being on the beach.
Have you seen "Baby Blue Marine"? Another good JMV movie. See if you can spot a young Richard Gere.
Marines the best and will always be the best Semper FI.
@@rockridgewoodshopJill m
I’m 64 and miss the Marine Corps everyday. Many of my best memories come from those days.
Semper Fi. I am 76 and I miss Navy boot at Great Lakes in February LOL. Company 407 NATTC (nat center).
My dad went through Navy Boot-Camp, at Great Lakes; he reported there on 13 FEB 1951.
Semper Fi, 1980 Hollywood Marine
Semper Fi. Miss it every day.
Semper Fi...I'm 63. MCRD San Diego Platoon 3006, 1980.
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I was a Marine DI from 1966-1969 at MCRD San Diego and I think that he the DI did a fair job only. You just needed to be there to see the real thing.
My dad was a DI from 65-69 MCRD San Diego 1st Bn. I had the blessing to meet some of his recruits years later. As kids, he would take us to work during the summer. Had no clue about where these men would in up. Dad has a book of his recruits with a lot of MIA or KIA next to their names. I stood on those yellow foot prints a few years later. 76-97 and retired as a CWO. Semper Fidelis
I think DI Hartman's declaration in "Full Metal Jacket" summed up the DI's job: "I am hard but I am fair."
i actually remember this made for TV movie vividly
it is probably the most underrated made for TV movie in history
"The Day After"
@@Rob-yr3vw , it was pretty much in the late 70's that i gave up on TV so from 77' to the very first 90's that TV was a blank till a discovered a little cartoon gem at a girlfriend condo that brought me back to occasional viewing and i always thank the Simpsons for that
South Park Post Covid
Hands down
Except "Duel" with Dennis Weaver, directed by Steven Spielberg.
@@Rob-yr3vwBrian's Song.
I was a corpsman on an LST. We carried 400+ Marines and some became my closest friends. There was a special bond between corpsmen and marines.
The Marines have their Few Good Men,
Navy Corpman
Many o their lives to yous. We are eternally grateful you are not forgotten
I was a junior in high school (11th grade) when this was broadcast.
I also was in the Jr. ROTC program.
Two years later I entered Army basic as a PFC.
That fact got me special treatment.
You don't want the Sr. Drill Instructor's Special Treatment.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I suppose you mean Drill Sergeant since the Army doesn't have Drill Instructors. We had a former airman in our platoon; no problem.
Air Force are TIs. Training Instructors😅@@hml3672
What a pleasant surprise. I saw this when I was 13, never forgot it.
I watched this movie in 70, enlisted 73 at 17 yoa., Plt. 2090, MCRD, Diego. My SDI/3 DI's had Strack high/tights and provided verbal/physical discipline as required. Best decision I ever made, Semper Fi my brothers.
Plt 2071 1968 MCRD S.D. I admired the hell out of my DI's. Their knowledge kept me alive later.
Few peeps remember that that was was filmed and presented well over 50 years ago. WW2 had been over just 25 years earlier, the Korean war wasn't even over 20 years and Viet Nam was still heated up.
One of the best made for TV movies ever made.
I haven't seen this flick in years.
Darren McGavin did an awesome job at Acting in this movie.
I am so glad that you put it up.
Thank you.
I served 20 years in the US Army, and reading this brings back memories. I joined roughly right after the Vietnam War. Sadly, due to the breakdown in society (sex, drugs, and rock and roll) and, of course, Vietnam, the military underwent a new transformation from top to bottom during the peacetime army that volunteered for service. I remember it as a difficult time, and changes had to be made for the military to move forward and be effective not only physically but also mentally.
The country was deeply divided in all aspects of life, and our government made costly decisions that affected the lives of many veterans and their family members. I often wonder why. This is no different with the Gulf War and the pullout of Afghanistan, especially considering war in general. Thank you; the movie brought back memories!
Yeah I see how the military moved ahead with wokeism and it’s disgusting
That's your side of the story... The only division was between the young & old world people, (in society). Today, since the 90s there has been More racism; hatetred ; and prejudice than there ever was in the 70s & 80s. - back then,, We Were All Just American's,, even old world people from WW2 accepted that. My dad did since the 60s. (a WW2 marine vet.) When Nixon stopped the war & draft, I was relieved. 35 years later, I started hunting 300lb black panthers. Something with a reason to kill (thanks to the idiot organizations that let these predators roam free) And what Nixon got busted for,,, we live by today and for the past 4 decades... That's America for ya.
My experiences are rooted in my military service during that time period. Having your own perspective is perfectly acceptable. I became part of the military culture in the 70s when I was just 17 years old and was deployed to Central America. The military faced numerous challenges during that era. My experience is more than just a story; it is a profound life experience. If you also served in the military during that time, we can share and discuss our respective experiences. I am well-informed about the events of the 60s and 70s. My family's history traces back to the Revolutionary War and even later wars. Your opinion is respected, and we can agree to differ on certain matters.@@lucan4042
WERE YOU WEST POINT
OR DID YOU COME UP THE RANKS❓ MY CO CALLED ME YOYO OBVIOUS REASONS BUT KNEW I'D GET THE JOB DONE,. STILL IN TOUCH WITH MY OLD GUNNY.
SEMPRE FI HMC/USMC
Thank you for your service! I was a high school dropout due to personal reasons. Subsequently, I enlisted and progressed through the ranks during my 20-year military career. Of those 20 years, I dedicated 9 years to overseas deployments in various countries. Pursuing college education undeniably played a crucial role in my career advancements. My Military Occupational Specialty (MOS) included serving as an Airborne Infantry teacher and instructor, along with fulfilling various other roles. @@davidfredenburg8283
Classic made for TV movie. Jan Michael Vincent had so much talent. Sad that drugs and alcohol ruined his career and life.
JMV was in a severe vehicle accident, which injured vertebrae and caused traumatic anguish, resulting in his abuse of drugs and alcohol. He had his leg amputated above the knee as a result of physical ailments. His later years were truly sad, as he fell from grace. My favorite JMV movie is White Line Fever, has been for decades. Now as a truck driver I can appreciate even more the times and the trucking industry; albeit, there are plenty of goofs that I can pick out as well, beings I know the business and how trucks operate, it’s still a good movie.
Yup but he enjoyed his drug and alcohol abuse which isn't a waste of time...If you didn't enjoyed your addiction then it's a waste of time
alcohol does more harm than any other drug in the world. according to all science.
There wouldn't have been a Full Metal Jacket without this movie first.
My friend Morton Siglio ate the DI's wife after he was in training for only two weeks!!
She divorced the DI after this!😊😊
morty sig works fast@@davidcarothers3311
Especially the Boys in Company C we loved that movie
this was not at all genuine. laughable to this MARINE. mcgavin can't pull it off, and neither can the pretty boy
Hippy Dreams, bring on Billy Jack!@@nkel6111
I went thru boot camp in 87 not as tough as this was, I remember watching this movie years ago, thanx for posting it, good movie
I went through boot camp in 88 and i was stationed at MCRD til late 1990. Boot camp was still tough. We had recruits committing suicide very often!
Best advice my father ever gave me when I was young and stupid. "You aint joining the army!"
Loved Darren McGavin in the "Night stalker" series, but he definitely makes a decent Drill Sargent in this.
Not a drill sergeant dude he is a DRILL INSTRUCTOR.
@@davidreed6264 don't be a pedantic twat, you know who I was referring to .He was drilling recruits and he was a sergeant, if his official title was an instructor woopty do get a life.
He was neither it’s a freaking Hollywood made for TV movie, So who gives a rats Arse
Not in 1970
And the Director should’ve probably made sure his actors actually abided by Marine Corps grooming regulations, the length and styling of their hair was atrocious. And drill instructors with a head of hair like that? I guess maybe it was different back in the 70s, not really sure.🤔
This was a movie about the collision of two worlds. In one, was the hippie Adrian, who could have fit in as a Marine but chose to remain loyal to his credo of non-violence. In the other, was the DI SFC Drake, whose job it was to convert all his trainees to adopt the mindset of a Marine. Of the two, SFC Drake was the more interesting, as he was portrayed as a man who could change, and little by little he did. Then there was MSG DI De Payster, who could not change, and was determined to destroy any trainee who would refuse to adhere to the mindset of a Marine. The tragedy of this movie was that each actor was right. Both DIs noted that war cannot be avoided and there will always be a need to train young men to kill. But private Adrian was right too as he was and is needed to sound the voice of reason even if no one listens.
Well, technically, he was a gunnery. Sergeant, Marines don’t have Sergeant first classes. 😀
Brought back memories of Navy boot camp in the summer of 61, as an enlistee. A bit less intense than Marine boot training, but it still separated the men from the boys. I found I could do the heretofore impossible. It changed my whole life course.
I barely remember the film, the pvt holding up those buckets brought back a memory!
My time in the service started at MCRD San Diego, and I will admit that I have benefited from these scenes!
So much of the MARINES CORPS Bootcamp is off camera! Momma wouldn't let her baby become a baby blue MARINES!
80 Different civilians suffering their own agony to become a part of something bigger than themselves! The pain inflicted on you will keep the non-hackers out of my MARINES CORPS!
Did you guys really do that bucket thing? In the army we just did push-ups and squat- thrusts and ran until we either puked or shit ourselves. The bucket thing would have just been another horror, that I'm glad the army didn't think of.
Gave this country eight years, I look at it now and realize we were all being played.
Still are, right to this day.
Why? Been a soldier made a real man off me, A negative, unfit, undisciplined lazy mammas boy. Made me strong to become a commercial pilot later on w GI Bill. Maybe you were negative. and still are i can see.
@@CFITOMAHAWK I gave six years and I agree we are being played. It is hard to wake up..I use to tell people the same thing, they took a boy and out came a man. All the world is a stage. Wake up.
@CFITOMAHAWKSheep will be Sheep...carry on.
@@CraigOlove If you are stupid or lazy negative. I was not. Progressed with discipline and hard work US AirForce gave me.
I've been looking for this movie for at least 10yrs. Never forgot the bucket scene.
Same here. I saw this film on TV when it came out. I was 11 yrs. old & the bucket scene was unforgettable. 💪
I was born in 1970 when this film was released. I went on to serve in the Australian Army Reserves as a Truck Driver. This film makes me wonder if it was the genesis for Stanley Kubricks 'Full Metal Jacket'. Hi from Down Under to all you Vets, & those serving 🫡
I thought the same thing, for sure.
No; 'Full Metal Jacket' was closely based on the book 'The Short Timers' by Gustav Hasford.
G’day back to You ANZAC!
Thanks for your service and your continued service and Valorous Actions since 1902 thru Now!
Loved Working Around with you dozy lot sine 1980!
Aussie Humor when under fire is still one of the things I admire most about the Fighting spirit of you ANZAC Warriors!
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The fact that this film was a made for tv movie in 1970 showed how far attitudes about the war and militarism had changed. The Adrian character was a protagonist, something that couldn’t have been mainstream just a few years earlier. This was the year of the Kent State killings. As a young teen, me and my friends all knew we’d be facing the draft soon. We all talked freely about the option of going to Canada. This was new territory for young men in the US
I am 74 & I spent 4 years in the service! I spent from '69-'70 in Viet Nam! I have 4 medals, and spent time, also in Japan, Taiwan, Philippines , Thailand, Hong Kong (before it was turned over to China) Viet Nam, Guam, Midway & 2 years in Hawaii. I was in BOOT CAMP in San Diego July to October, 1968! WHEN I WAS DISCHARGED, I SPENT 35
YEARS WORKING OBEDIENGE & SECURITY DOGS. This helped me...I was on PM Magazine ( reality TV program) and had 2 newspaper articles on wolves that I trained, also SD Tribune front page. Also the San Diego Union! I kept myself in business with what I knew best. My entire family along with my brother at the same time. My family goes back over 100 years in the service !
....oh yeah, and the Kent state shootings were not murder. They were self-defense.
@@palerider964You just complain about everything and anyone don't you ?
I think you are a democrat that hates everyone but another democrat!@@palerider964
I was 15 and watched the News every night ....
This movie had a big impact on me when it came out.
This was made with anti-Vietnam sentiment in 1969.
You couldn't have "Full Metal Jacket" or "Platoon" stuff on TV then or even in the movies.
I drank the "kool-aid " in 1965, joined the USAF and spent 4 years in TAC as a weapons & munitions specialist.
Vietnam was a loser from the start, put upon us by Lyndon Johnson and Robert McNamara.
After the Ia Drang in Nov 1965 Col. Hal Moore told Gen Westmoreland you couldn't win a war of attrition against the North Vietnamese, who had been fighting enemies for hundreds of years.
Robert McNamara didn't care and LBJ wanted a war win as his legacy. At that point the US had lost 305 personnel.
10 years later, 59,000+ Americans killed, hundreds of thousands physically and mentally messed up and billions of dollars wasted and it was over.
Iraq and Afghanistan are proof the US govt either doesn't learn, doesn't care or both.
Such a shame and profound waste .
Kill any kids? I ask because you’re crying about the Yanks that got greased overseas, yet not a peep for the estimated 1-3 million people you helped kill in Vietnam Cambodia and Laos. Boo hoo
Amen, sir. Amen. No kidding. My Dad, a WWII vet, had exactly the same thoughts about the Vietnam war, and would have agreed with your last 2 statements. God bless, and thank you for your service.
You hit the nail on the head
There is a speech by President Eisenhower on You Tube I intend to watch. I have read it before. It was his warning about the MIC- Military Industrial Complex and it's effect on America and the world.
1970 Ft Jackson , Was Pick Up while Going Downtown and all this guy could talk about was this movie! Years later I finally saw it and it is a great film!!!!!!!!!
This was one of a few TV movies that I remember fondly from my teen years. “Silent Running” (science fiction), “Blood Sport” (1973 about high school football), and “Kung Fu” are three other favorites of mine.
Very good Grasshopper... now, try to grab the pebbles from my hand. When you can, it will be time for you to go
What about 'Duel'?
A made for TV movie by some guy named Spielberg.
Dennis Weaver, a menacing Peterbilt tanker truck and a namby pamby Plymouth Valiant that wasn't very V
valiant. I was 16 or 17 and a Jr in HS!
Remember 'Tribes' as well. McGavin, Vincent and Holliman....wonder if Kubrick got some ideas after seeing this??
@@roberthevern6169 - I only saw a small part of that movie by Spielberg but I heard that it was very good.
I can't believe i have never seen this. I had 2 roll models who fought in Vietnam. Both uncles. 1 in the navy on the uss Franklin D Roosevelt, 1 in the 🪖 army. Some of the greatest men i have known. I was fatherless and they stepped up as much as they could. I have nothing but love for all vets but a special place for Vietnam vets.
Got a thing for baby killers?
I did my Boot camp in Ft. Jackson SC ! In the old 1945 barracks on tankhill ! It was straight hell ! But I made it through thank God 😢😅😂😊! It was in the fall time 1982 , Wow 42 years ago! Times really fly so fast!! God bless all the veterans in all the branches!!!!!!!!
I was there in 1984...
I was there in 69 I remenber the coal herders I was A,7,2 3th platoon in those old buildings And don't walk in the middle of the floor
Try Ft. Bliss Texas, nothing but dirt and flying cock roaches
I went through in 1980
Gunnery Sargents Hartman and Drake two of the best Marine Corps DI portrayals in the movies...March 8th 1974 San Diego here... Semper Fi!
Jack Webb was a good one too in 'The DI'.
@@stevecochran9078 For sure!
OoooRah !! cpl 68-72
My first thought when they were running to the barber shop was, "What a nasty mob!" Semper Fi 83-89
@@stevecochran9078 Jack Webb narrated many of the training films we watched in Recruit Training. Lots of people thought he was a Marine.
i was 9 years old when this movie debut on ABC in 70 watch it with the family my dad real like it because he was in the marines
EXCELLENT. Story of my life. Except the end. I stayed my 4 years, and even considered reenlisting.
I’m 67 and have always remembered watching this movie when it came out.
I'm 67 also - I saw this movie then joined the Navy
This video helped me make it through boot camp back in 76. I would go to a safe place in my mind every time they pit bulled on me.
i still have to employ NEW techniques every so often..... I had trauma in Catholic school and a mark i live with til I die.... and the seemingly never ending superstitions and psych of everyday living.... then 1986 January and my quantum entanglement with space program and Challenger ripped from me a lot of rationality I work everyday to maintain an objective view of life..... Now instead of pit bulling it is never ending Gaslighting.... Semper Fi... God Bless......
And you made it through, good on you, Marine! 👍
I grew up with a father that used to yell at me in my face and beat me and we couldn't show an emotion. I got beat to a pulp for shrugging my shoulders one time. When I joined bootcamp, the drill instructors made me laugh compared to my father. They couldn't see me laugh, but they knew they weren't breaking me. So they gave me firewatch 3 times a night. Lack of sleep broke me! lol
I watched this movie a few months before going to basic training in the Army as a draftee. A great made-for-TV production!
I did the same. I went in in 1972. I tried to do what Adrian did. It was a great movie to get you going. Won the final P.T. test for the whole cycle. Scored 498 points out of 500.
Ft. Polk 1975
I went through MCRD San Diego in 79, India Company, Platoon 3071. The cadences brings back memories.
Coming from a military family. Truth and honor was only on my mind. To betray and run was cowardice period.
I remember watching this as a kid when it aired
From the old ABC Movie of the Week, when there used to be such gems on TV.
RIP, Darren McGavin and Jan-Michael Vincent.
Was a sophomore in HS when this came out. The Vietnam War was real and my draft number was 80 when I turned 18. Then Nixon discontinued the draft right before I was to be called up. Really dodged a bullet there...
Yea you would've been out in Nam 3am heavy rain, not showered in weeks bout to get ambushed ptsd guaranteed war guy!! Shit scary scar scary!!
@@rilorobinson7685Fear the Rice Farmers
@@reycesarcarino4653 those rice farmers/ NVA were no joke!!
@@rilorobinson7685it's a term of endearment
Every time some ignorant fool slams President Nixon, I tell them he said he'd end it and bring our men & women home & he did. I'm very glad you didn't have to go. God bless you.
McGavin ideal Drill Instructor. Fabulous actor.
Brings back memories of June 1968 Paris Island. What a crazy time!!!
Just a year later, I stood on those same yellow footprints. Semper Fi
I arrived at Parris Island in 1964. Had a great 4 years. Now I'm retired in the country near Louisville,
Earl Holiman is the last known star living in this flick and Earl is 95.
Wow
Washington is still alive.
PLT 2071 1968 S.D. His name was SGT. Fell he and I both from Kansas ( lucky me ) NOT ! acted and sounded just like Earl
I remember him from Police Woman
@@pauladouglas9891 yep, Also the western Tv show Wide Country in the early 60s.
My Dad used to always yell at me "You're the grass, and im the lawn mower." He is a Vietnam nam vet Marine Grunt. Purple Heart recipient. I joined in 1997. Semper Fi
I went to MCRD San Diego in 1983, I'd seen this movie but didn't realize it helped me a great deal. I used visualization to cope with some of the challenges but I'd learned that in playing football. I was shocked at how well a good solid coach can prepare a person for life and for the military. I smoked Recruit training and was recommended for a commissioning program. The reality is the same techniques are used by those who embrace the system as well.
I learned how to deal with the negative response when I got home by working dogs! I did work dogs in the military.
I saw this movie on tv when it came out and asked my father,who was in the Marines in WWII,if it was really like this. He just laughed and said no. I found out 10 months later at Parris Island what he meant.
Did you accept the commission program??🤔
Parris island 77 thanks ,DID YOU LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT LIFE AND DEATH COME ON PEOPLE THINK OHRAA😊😢😮😅😊😊
Was Mr Gavin a Marine shure portrayed a good one 😊
Just shows a “ positive mental attitude “ gets you through any amount of bullshit in life 🤷♂️ it’s worked for me so far and I’m 63 this year 😃👌
I enlisted US Navy 1972, the recruit training center where I was trained no longer exists, but I remember all of it like it just happened yesterday. The Vietnam war was still on going, the draft was on, people I knew was drafted and some volunteered. Most people was against the war back then and many were in the streets protesting against the war. There was draft dodgers and people burning the flag and burring their draft papers and some were leaving the country for Canada. The sentiment of most of the USA citizens was against the military and service men back then. You were much more likely to be cussed or spit upon and nobody said, "thank you for your service", like they do today.
Went through MCRD San Diego back in 75. It was the best experience.
It was pure misery every second of every day, and I thank God for it today.
It was contrived in parts. Yes, there are Marines on power trips (that’s why I got out), but there are also very insightful Marines like Adrian. In fact, some of the most interesting people I ever met were other Marines, and it wasn’t about fighting for the country. It was about the bond we had and saving each other. That was the most valuable lesson I learned in the Corps.
Got out because of toxic leadership?
@@Brotherken1234 That’s the main one.
It was about people who were in the same position as you. But it was great being young
HILARIOUS! to hear all those teenage girls cry out and shriek when they put Jan-Michael in that barber chair and shave off that LONG hair.
Thanks to all the young men who served so i can live in the best country in the world as a free man!
What country is that?
@@user-lf4ux7dm7g The one that lets in millions of illegal aliens as "asylum seekers" and showers money on them while its own citizens, including elderly VN vets, sleep in the street.
I guess you didnt get the message of movie.
I was 8 when this came out. Saw it on TV around 72. Really loved it.
Good flick. Reminds me when I got drafted in the Army in 1971. I was #1 in the draft lottery. Went to Vietnam.
Got out of high school in 1971. My lottery number was 361. Worked part time jobs and got my mechanical engineering degree. Worked around 31 years as a gear engineer in Detroit. Even did a little work on the turret gear for the army tank m1a2.
Thank you for your service. Welcome home. Thank you for my benefits you earned.
Apparently this movie impacted a large number of people. It certainly influenced me. It's a subtle anti war message.
I saw the original telecast when I was a kid. I remember how the DI came to respect the hippie (Adrian) and see his point of view.
This was hugely controversial when it appeared as a made-for-TV movie. Could feel the generation gap while watching it with my Dad. In a couple of years after this, he became a vocal critic of it. But in 1970, he was still in his McCarthyism hangover of "John Wayne is god, you don't question your government, you salute and say "Yes Sir".
Should have specified "vocal critic" of the Vietnam War.
@@carseye1219 Ironically, now the left want's big government.
Your Dad was and is right. This movie started the whole anti war hippy movement. Hated them then and still do.
Didn't read the whole thing. My dad became virulent anti-war. He said voting for Nixon, who signed a peace treaty that had much worse terms than were offered at the beginning of the peace talks, was the worst vote of his life. All smart people have come to the conclusion that Vietnam was the wrong war, in the wrong place, at the wrong time. All we did was bankroll and make millionaires of corrupt South Vietnamese politicians who had no interest in running a country, in addition to the millions of deaths. @@mitchl.7276
@@mitchl.7276 You aren't alone,good to hear reality instead of remanufactured fables to protect the no hackers!!!
Great Movie. As an officer we went to Basic Course, one summer, and advanced camp junior- senior year summer. There were a few blanket parties. My DI was a Special Forces E-6. He was going to Greece for his next tour. I speak fluent Greek. So at night while everyone slept, I was awake teaching him Greek. I also volunteered to clean the latrines everyday. Previously I worked at McDonald's and I cleaned the latrines there so I was used to it. I also worked at night cleaning the pig pens at the state fairgrounds. So latrines in the Army were nothing to me and no sleep was candy for me.
I must had seen this movie when I was 12 years old. It left an impression on me to this day. Mostly never judge someone by your first impression. I joined up in 1976. It took me two weeks before I could see that my DI were humans. After that Basic Training became more of a learning experience, instead of thinking I had been sent to hell. I joined to bring back those men we left behind, our POW/MIAs. This haunts me to this day, that our president believed our enemies word, when our own intelligence said the opposite. I SHALL NEVER FORGET
Thank you for posting this movie. It is an excellent movie that I only barely had heard of before. The characters are believeable from the perspective of this older veteran of that time. I cannot believe how well done it is and that the Marines approved, although I can understand from certain ways they would like its' portrayals and all the excellent footage of Marine Boot camp. This takes me back to the similarities to my Army Basic Training in many ways. It is difficult to transition a group of civilians from varying backgrounds into a potential (potential because only real battle does it) efficient fighting force. I became a 'hippy' after my war experiences to a limited degree. I was one to agree to authority and accept the role assigned me and to fight in that god-awful war in Vietnam. I am proud of what I did but would not wish it on anyone in the future. Still, though I dislike nationalism, we do need an effect and efficient fighting force to protect our country.
Correct. The issue is not a simple one, and it's not to be ignored. Our national survival is at stake today much more than it was then. I was Army, 2 tours in Vietnam.
Good movie love the part where everyone are holding the buckets
That's the scene that stuck with me. I was 8 or 9 when I watched it on TV.
I saw this movie thirty years ago and often wondered what it was called since. I only remembered the bucket holding scene from the whole movie, but I liked the actor Jean Michel as he was in The Mechanic with Charles Bronson. The uploader titled this an action movie, he must be an ex marine LOL
Honestly surprised at how similar some shots and scenes are to Full Metal Jacket's first half. Did not expect that from a Jan Michael Vincent flick 17 years before Kubrick made his movie.
Having been through Marine Corps Boot Camp at MCRD PISC, I can tell you that this movie is a very light/watered down dramatization of what boot camp is like. Full Metal Jacket on the other hand gave me raw flashbacks!!!
It was made for TV. It had to be watered down.
Surprised Darren McGavin & Earl Holliman didn’t get real DI haircuts to be authentic. They look like hippies compared to my 3 DI’s at PI in ‘72.
This is awesome. Being a "Hollywood" Marine from 2003 timeframe. There's a lot that's neat to see in this from the airport in the background. Also, awesome to see what the Depot looked like "back then". A lot of the cadences lasted to at least my time, if a bit modified.
most affirm !! I too am Hollywood from that time period.... PLT 3098.. Aug-Nov 1971.. last series to drill/gual with the M14. Did'nt know at the time, early on, why the Drill Instructors had that "looking over their shoulders" feel... was due to that this flick had just wrapped up filming and many of the production crews were still in the area, " packing their trash". I think this was a CBS production, and didn't air till the following year. Have admit, when gathered around the TV, me and all the bro's who where there, had a good time pointing out all the "landmarks". For TV, we all thought it was well done, and I think it won a few Emmys. Jan Michael Vincent was the bomb at that time and was on his way to movies. RIP. Darren McGavin wasn't chopped liver either ! SEMPER FI TO ALL JARHEADS... NO MATTER WHAT ERA
@@pattipelayo1389I took my boot in CA and went to Nam in 65 back to the states in 72 and then a civilian again
@@pattipelayo1389 I went aboard MCRD San Diego in 1976. It looked the same as it did in this movie. Sounded the same, too. 😁 Except I recall it being a bit more "salty".
Una grata sorpresa toparme con estos clásicos filmes con tan buenos actores que son ahora de culto para todo cinéfilo que se jacte. Simplemente buena de principio a fin.
Saludos y bendiciones a todos los cinéfilos de corazón desde Venezuela.
The first night at MCRD San Diego, the DI said before our heads were shaved " If you have anything protruding through your skull, it's going to be gone in a minute." He wasn't kidding, one recruit had blood running down the back of his neck.
At least a couple of scenes missing from this presentation, such as the scene where Adrian is punished and forced to do a shitload of squats while holding his rifle above his head.
When I was in high school, late 60s to early 70s, my gym teacher treated us guys like recruits. We were literally in boot camp, and he told us that he was getting us ready for the military, that we would hit the deck running as Marines, and maybe God forbid, one of the other services. We did just about every physical activity you would expect of a USMC boot camp.
Good movie!
Some similarities to a movie from 1958, called: "The Drill Instructor", starring Jack Webb as the hard-nosed D.I., (later he was in "Dragnet")...
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And I can't ignore the fact that both movies had an influence on Stanley Kubrick's Masterpiece: "Full Metal Jacket", 1987!
I loved Jack Webb!
As a kid, we loved JMV in the Banana Splits serial shorts Danger Island and of course McGavin as the lovable dad in Christmas Story. I remember a kid in sunday school telling me about this movie and he had long hair (early 70s) and was describing the haircuts and "Sir, yes sir!"...
I remember watching this in junior high school (middle school) when it came out, and being horrified at seeing those guys having their heads shaved. People today may not realize the cultural significance of long and short hair at that time. It wasn't just a stylistic choice, it represented who you were and what you believed in. It was your identity, and a very visible indicator of which side of a huge social divide you occupied
Hippie, Stoner or Jock. You could tell by the hair. It was our badge. Well said.
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I'm 68 and Canada was looking mighty good if the War had gone. In High school in Georgia my Headmaster took me out of class to get my hair cut.
A different world.
That's why it is so important to have all that hair sheared off. I remember it was such a weird feeling how it felt afterwards, but I understood it later on.
Hair length was definitely demarcation of values back then.
I've had my hair past my shoulders and crew cut twice in a decade , all depended on my state of mind ...53 and strong
I remember watching this on TV back in the day.
I ran across this one by accident. I remember watching it decades ago. I was excited to see it again, only this time with 66 yr old eyes. I was a stoner in those days, but only because I wanted to fit in. My best friend was an ex-pat who came to Canada to avoid being drafted. Can't say I blame him. He basically taught me everything I know about the world. RIP Dan. I miss you.
Went through Air Force boot camp in 1980, and our drill instructor was a terror everyone feared. Darin McGavin is a great actor, but he just wasn't hard core and in-your-face enough to convince me he was the real deal like R Lee Ermy was.
1:55 I was there in early 1973. I was first off the bus, first on the yellow footprints, first into barber chair, only one pulled out for OCS which I turned down because I was only 17 for three days when I joined - making me the youngest yet the tallest man in my entire platoon. I was not ready to be an Officer, I'm up to my neck as it is, thank you very much.
11:30 I got punched in the chest in front of a well made rack in the DI office several times for grinning like the moron I was at the age of 17. They slug me in solar plexus, I bounce off the bed, they get mad because I messed up the sheets. They tell me to make the rack again (make the bed) then stand up against it again. Another punch to solar plexus, sheets are a mess. This went on several times. They beat the smiles out of me. Took me five years to smile randomly once again like humans do.
That was the rough part, the good news is no one ever started a fight with me again.
The Marine Corps turned me from a gangly goofy kid into a smirking (no teeth showing) maniac. One thing they build into your brain is that attack solves everything. Survival, surrender, prisoners, all technical terms that do not concern us.
Jan-Michael Vincent may he RIP. I told my daughter he was the Brad Pitt of his day, but she didn’t believe me. This movie was a lot better than I expected. Despite the haircuts of the DI’s being way too long and use of “soldier” to describe a Marine. Darren McGavin & Earl Holliman, always a huge fan. Obviously, no FULL METAL JACKET, but for the times, really good. I also liked the description of the title, TRIBES.
Well you can't expect much from Hollyweird concerning how it's really like in the military.
They started getting better when Dale Dye was in Hollywood as a technical advisor on military films.
When I joined the Canadian military in 1979 little did I know that within a year of me finally retiring in 1999, I'd become a drill instructor myself. It was great to experience both sides. I don't believe I'd ever seen this movie before, though there would be many others over the years that many of us would enjoy and of course critique as to their accuracy in bringing forth what bootcamp was all about. "Tribes", like all the other films definitely present elements of what we all went through. The closing discourse between McGavin and Vincent's characters upon the very principle of purpose within the theme of recruiting a nation citizens was excellent. McGavin was fully correct in the bedrock traits of man and the inviolet supremacy of the state. Vincent's thoughts were correct in that an individual will only always see their own newborn utopian ideals as to how life and liberty should be interpreted. Individuals will always have a place within the state but only if they learn to most loyally say; "Yes Sir"!
Who knew Ralphie’s Dad was a Marine Corps Gunnery Sergeant.😂
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I saw this movie before I went into Army basic. There were parts that helped get me through too.
Really??? LOL
No doubt you were part of the powder-puff squad????
@@rider660r nope I just did what I was told and kept my nose clean. The part about concentrating on something else really works. Especially on 35 mile road marches and stuff. You should try it sometime.
I hear 'ya. I had no idea how much of a nightmare army basic would be. I imagined it to be coach / player relationship or something. My recruiter, after dropping me off at the induction center, said basic training will be rough. He told me that at the last minute! lol. Anyway, made it thru and did my 4 years.
Army basic training for me was easy, so easy, I said to myself " heck, I'd like to do it again" I had been in many juvenile detention " forestry work camps in my youth, I lied to the recruiter about having a juvenile arrest record, D.O.D. never found out, 🇺🇸🪂🪖 Geronimo ! 💣💥
Were you E3
I"made the circuit", from Fort Leonard Wood,"Misery"Missouri, 1956, Fort Campbell, Kentucky, Fort Huachuka,AZ, ,Fort Bragg, NC,1st/10th S.F. Bad Tolz, Germany, to Dien Bien Phu, South Viet Nam 1961 . . . God bless "Our Fighting Warriors !
First time I've seen this movie..i was working night shift at ford.. I've been to parris island to visit my brother .. it was kinda scary..my brother went to Vietnam in 68..he made it back ok my family was worried the whole time..god bess the marine corps.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
The fact this movie even came out during the war was a feat. The only 2 marine movies I remember from the 70s is this one and boys in company c. What I can't believe is a farce of gomer pyle
It has been years since I watched this movie. I would love to see the "Boys in company C"
What great movie. I saw this as a teen. Found it love ❤️ to Jan Michael
A enlisted friend of mine gave me the best advise. Shut up and do as I was told! Worked like a charm!😮😅
A great movie. Great message.
Jan's story is one of the all time Saddest Ones and I always admired him when he was young but developed a dislike for him because of how he ruined his life that any man would have killed to have his looks and talent~!!
Thanks for posting this movie I am a former Marine myself graduated from Parris Island in 1981 love this movie brings back a lot of memories it was not easy
Ditto, as a Vietnam Era USMC veteran, I agree with the quality of this movie. It has been 50 years since I last saw this movie.
What, no pronouns and rainbows in this movie?
I remember this! Was an ABC Movie of the Week I think ❤
My 2S deferment had just expired and I was 1A. I had spent the previous week with a marine recruiter signing up for the PLC program. Everything was done short of taking the oath. Then I saw this movie. I realized the marines were an outstanding organization, but it wasn't for me. That recruiter chased me for a month, but I didn't change my mind. A mistake? Maybe but I'm alive.
What an exceptional, moving, rare gem. Deep. New addition to my top ten war related films surely ❤ thankyou for posting.
My dad was a marine and he loved being one. Paris Island in the late 50s .he was one tuff dude
Ditto that. My father proudly displayed his Corps tattoo
Same with my pops. He graduated PI in 1954 and served 20 years as a Combat Engineer, retired in 1974. 2 combat tours in Viet Nam and barely survived Khe Sahn. He was seriously wounded on each tour (65 and 68); tough as they come. GB our military members, and RIP Dad.
Stay safe my friend.