Roller Derby in NYC
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- Roller Derby in New York City. This was a segment on the MSG network called the MSG Vault. Shown are games at MSG's Felt Forum from August 11, 1973 between the NY Chiefs and the Red Devils. (Joan Weston and many Midwest Pioneers are skating as Red Devils); The NY Braves vs. the California Red Devils from Feb. 9, 1975 at MSG's main arena and the NY Chiefs vs. The San Francisco Bay Bombers from November 19, 1973. Former Roller Derby Star Bob Woodberry is also interviewed.
I’m so loving this vintage footage. Indescribable excitement!!!!!!!
God do I miss the real Roller Derby and the great stars during that time period. Today's skaters 2018 just are no comparison to the skaters of the past.
Agree I saw one bout as they call it today. Sorry nothing compares to the game of the past which had it on a banked track. I understand there are a few leagues that do utilize a banked track today however if it's anything that I witnessed, too slow with a lot of rules. Not needed. Yes one we loved may had been rigged or theatrical though honestly Skaters then had a lot of talent that is of no comparison to today's Roller Derby. Roller Derby @ least back then had some sense of realism too. Unlike Roller Games. Sad that league had great skaters too however too much over the top theatrics while Derby kept it to a minimum.
Pretty Cool! Thank You for Posting! Really Enjoyed.
Being a West Coast Boy (and a Life Long Bomber Fan), Real tough watching the Chiefs as ANYTHING but the Bad Guys!
You're welcome!
I always loved how every match came down to the last jam. Pro wrestling on skates!
replaybb kinda like the NFL lol
Roller Derby was a tough, mixed, carnival of a sport. Part competition, part spectacle, and part show. Not comparable to pro wrestling. The exciting thing was that you never knew what was real and what was played up for the audience.
@@charlesb.6434 In Roller Derby true. In Roller Games, it was pretty much all spectacle.
Bob was the premier bad guy in Roller Derby! Thanks for the video!
He’s dead. Bob’s my grandfather
@@reneewoodberry2271 So sorry to hear. We loved to hate him. One of the greats!
@@reneewoodberry2271Didn't know Bob passed. Wasn't in the papers. Same thing with Charlie O.
Thanks for uploading this video, it's one of the best Roller Derby tributes!
My pleasure!
Definitely! I agree with you!
Shout out to everyone who traveled to the Roller Derby training school in Philly every weekend back in the 70's.
Thank you for posting this. Fond memories of the Roller Derby & only wished it was still going today. Visited Madison Square Garden 2 years ago & sadly yes no sign of the Roller Derby ever entertaining within this mecca of sports & entertainment of America
You're welcome, George!
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@@donaldpaluga Sorry current Derby does zero for me. More as the late Jerry Seltzer said best described today's game as a "Rugby scrimmage" which does to me too. Doesn't even come close to the game before.
Bob--as with most skaters who were interviewed--showed a different side of himself off the track. On the track, there was no one any meaner! Loved the battles between him and O'Connell.
Definitely Woodberry held his own not only against O'Connell many others as well. Sad remember the few games Woodberry skated against the Thunderbirds shortly after 1974 & the ISC was formed, appeared to just go through the motions. I think he was even named Player Coach after Bill Groll left in disgust. Woodberry didn't last long either followed suit.
@@georgegong6813 You learn something new every day! I did not know this. Who was Woodberry and Groll skating for when they skated against the T-Birds? I know at one time, he and Groll skated together when they were with the Chiefs.
@@donniehagy5125 Thought I noted it was on the 1974 New York Chiefs. Like to say January or February. I saw the game on San Francisco UHF Station Channel 44, then an independent television station. Needless to say I followed Roller Games then too on the promise of the best of Games & Derby with stricter rules. Then no need to remind you that all ended quickly I believe March when there was literally a mass exodus of Derby Skaters. I recall one game Mike Gammon was made Player Coach I think in a game against the Philadelphia Warriors. Shortly after that both Mike & Judi retired as well.
Bob was UNBELIEVABLE. HE TORE IT UP. I LAUGHED WHEN HE WOULD HIT MARGE LAZLO..... THOSE WE'RE THE DAYS
BOB WAS GREAT SAW HIM WITH THE DEVILS SKATING THE CHIEFS IN TRENTON WHEN I WAS YOUNGER
I saw a game from that same series on Aug. 11, 1973 from MSG's Felt Forum. Part of that game is shown in the video above.
46:32 The organist is the late, legendary Eddie Layton!
The Bay Bombers were the heels when they went on their eastern tour. And the Chiefs vice versa in the Bay. Saw Bob many times skate in the Bay Area vs the Bombers. Great skater.
Loved Dynamite Mike Gammon
I always loved it when the Bombers skated "red."
If I recall correctly, the second half of the Roller Stars game (featuring the New York Braves) disappeared after Don Drewry loaned the master tape to somebody. All these years later, I hope the missing second half was finally recovered.
R.i.p to one of the realist guy I been around in my life I love him 💙 and he loved me more I will never forget him
I am on the Eastern Coast where we always went to all of the Warrior games, the best draws were when the Warrriors and the New Yory Bombers played in Philly, the New York Chiefs did come to philly but not a lot everyone hated Bob woodbeery and Sandy Dunn, Judy Arnold and Sandy Dunn had a match race and I know it was scripted but Dunn went to kick Arnold but Arnold went to move and Dunn kicked her in the face which drew blood and Arnold freaked and went after Dunn, that was a real fight. Good old days!
Man, I have to say Sandy Dunn was quite a workhorse for the Chiefs!
Legendary Organist Eddie Layton. 46:15
A 10 DOLLAR PERSONAL FINE BOY HAVE TIMES CHANGED
Do you have the last IRSL game at the Garden in December 1987 before that league (a reboot of the original Roller Derby) shut down?
No, I'm sorry I don't. I was there, too.
The way charlie looks at Don after asking that question.It would have been great if those two got together in their retirement years.I wish they had taped that match race.But,Jerry was against it wanted every one to show up at the arenas.
MY BIG QUESTION IS THE HOST SAYS THEY FOUND THESE TAPE REELS IN THE VAULT AT THE GARDEN I WONDER HOW MANY THERE ARE AND CAN THEY BE PUT ON DVD.
Doubt if much could be found other then what was provided to this show unless MSG had them within their archives or vault itself. Note last year I visited Madison Square Garden & took a tour of the facility. Many of the events past & present were of course displayed on it's walls. Sadly didn't find one even old Roller Derby picture. Roller Derby Hall Of Fame which was supposed to had been within Madison Square Garden no longer exists.
My family followed The Derby from 1969 until it went out in1973!!! We moved from Pittsburgh to the Bay Area!!! We were so happy that the IRSL brought back all the main skaters for awhile in 1977 until it folded again in 1986!!! Bill Groll did such a outstanding job after Charlie retired!!! The ESPN games are the last of the IRSL and that big 8 period game from Madison Garden Bombers vs Eastern Express!!! The recent Bomber games from the current league was terrible!!! No one could skate let alone play!!! Someone needs to assemble a ultimate Roller Derby collection From 1973 and put it on bluray!!!
@@grumpyluke8208 I agree with you luckily that last league you are referring to were promoted by the late Dan Ferrari were a total joke! More like an old timer's Roller Games then anything else. Many were too old & out of shape,. Nice to see they tried to keep Roller Derby going though sorry not worth the price of admission. Heard too the Skaters didn't even get paid & volunteered to perform since there was little profit made off of the low attendance as well as high cost of the arena, track transportation, etc.
@@georgegong6813 Sorry for taking so long. It saddens me that most of Roller Derby history is gone. By the way I was shocked to hear that Shawn Atkinson passed away. He didn't look like the steroid upped guy from Roller Jam.
@@grumpyluke8208 Yes more Skaters that pass. More like Chet Coppick, Ken Kunzelman, & the true voice of Roller Derby, Walt Harris that are now long gone & passed, any real legitimate way of bringing the game we all know & love will sadly not come back. I too yearn for those years again. Best time of my childhood! I follow the big 4 major sports be it Baseball, Basketball, Football, & Hockey. Call it sports entertainment if you like, Roller Derby will always remain a special part of that sports interest in me as well!
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I was at this game. Great skating and exciting to a fever pitch. Too bad the women's roller derby of today is so boring with mediocre skaters.
Forgot to ask when was this program 1st aired!? Hope they do another episode!
George, this was around 2004. I've been waiting for them to do another segment but they never did. :(
Mike
Thanks Mike I was wondering or better put...Hoping for more episodes! Hopefully there will be you never know! After all they are basing it on old games from the past!
Never liked the Chiefs, especially when they played at home. Didn't make a ton of friends rooting against them but who cared. I thought by 1973 Weston was a Pioneer, but it seemed like everyone switched teams constantly
T Birds Please!!!
Sorry, I was not a fan of Roller Games.
It be interesting to view the Thunderbird games in the early part of 1974 after the Games acquired a lot of the Derby Skaters. Of interest to me be the Games with O'Connell skating on the Thunderbirds. Though must agree with the person who posted this video. Not a big fan of the Games myself. Though they had some great Skaters, many a former Derby Skater too. Rarely were they able to really show their skills with all the theatrics that occurred within Games & the National Skating Derby
I actually saw the T Birds skate a game at Madison Square Garden. I think it was on a Sunday afternoon around 1982 or 1983.
Yes, that was in 1983. I never knew about the game but I wouldn't have gone anyway had I known. The real Roller Derby was gone at the end of 1973 and I hated Roller Games.
@@NYRNGR1 Roller Games was an inferior league and in my opinion a joke.
This is Roller Derby not BS flat track crap that they are trying to pass off as Roller Derby. How can you save the game when they are changing the rules. They made an exciting game lame.