Black Mirror Analysis | Crocodile
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This episode wasn't perfect but I certainly enjoyed it a lot, what did you guys think did you love it did you meme it let me know in the comments
I really liked the idea of everyone lying. Shazia lies about what happens to the memories gathered, I'm pretty sure only the police know it works on animals (or at least their versions do) and that connects well to mistrust; both of people's personal accounts and their subjective memories.
Protagonist means the main character of a story--not necessarily the "good guy".
In that sense, Mia is the protagonist and Shazia acts as both a secondary protagonist and an unknowing antagonist.
The antagonist isn't necessarily in the wrong, they're just working against the protagonist.
I felt like this episode was especially brutal despite the more modest high-tech, and I was especially concerned about the laws concerning it.
I wouldn't want to be legally obligated to let anyone look at my memories.
All the more reason to stay inside.
Harry's Moving Castle this was my first episode and it got me interested in the series.
Harry's Moving Castle It had some interesting parts but it didn't leave me wanting more.
This episode left me feeling so conflicted. I feel awful for Mia, but I also really don’t like her. She shouldn’t have helped her ex dispose of the cyclist’s body, but it’s pretty easy to tell she was in shock and freaking out after it happened. She also didn’t want to get her boyfriend in trouble. Then, over a decade later, he suddenly waltzes back into her life and threatens to use the situation that he put her in to ruin Mia’s life. I know that wasn’t his objective in coming clean, but he still would ruined her life. Again, Mia is shocked and in a state of panic when she kills him. A part of me was like, “Well, there’s a twisted act of justice,” because the ex (I can’t remember his name) put Mia in this situation in the first place. The ex basically started the events that led to his own death. So up until that point, I didn’t dislike Mia. I felt she made bad choices, but I could somewhat understand them. And it’s not like she was ravishing in the murder or killing for sport. She committed a crime of passion and felt immensely guilty afterward.
But then she killed the insurance lady and it completely changed my mind. I wanted someone to catch her at that point. Killing the husband added to that and then killing the child... Yeah, Mia definitely turned into a monster by the end of the episode.
I liked the story. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I’m left feeling so conflicted because I feel like Mia’s story - her life - was unfair. *She* didn’t run down an innocent pedestrian on the road, but *she* ultimately pays for it. Even if she hadn’t killed anyone in the story and the ex had come clean about everything, Mia’s life still would have been ruined because of a crime she didn’t commit. I know she helped cover it up, but she didn’t actually do it.
Great analysis, by the way :)
Me: "She's not gonna kill the baby"
Next line of the film: Investigator: "Who the hell kills a baby?!"
Exactly XD I feel like at that point she didn’t even have to kill the baby she probably left a bunch of evidence
@@shaymininfernape7088 well, no not really. The investigators said themselves that "they're skilled, i don't even know what I'm looking for here." it was really only the hamster
I was thinking, she feels guilty about leaving a child parentless.
I wasn't even thinking about the 'eye-witness' aspect so I was SHOOKETH with the investigators line haha
🎵I thought I had it all togetherrrrr🎵
I thought it was stupid of her to even walk in to the room where the baby was. Where the baby “COULD” see her.
Imagine Mia gets put into the White Bear programme and is punished...
Yeah, but what would her punishment be? With the other woman, they video taped her because she videotaped the child. What would Mia’s poetic justice be?
Being locked down in a crib without being able to move while people continually smother her she ends up in a coma. Then when she wakes up from said coma, rinse and repeat. A continuous cycle of becoming a vegetable.
So like a mix of white bear and black museum
NemesisJ maybe throughout each day her vision deteriorates, and resets back to normal in the morning after her memories have been erased? Just cause the infant was blind
SherIock Holmes Imo the perfect punishment for Mia in a White Bear scenario is to see her own son being murdered. Of course that's going to be acted. They can say it's her son with a lookalike actor or a child actor with a bag on his head. The murder would be staged each day with erasing her memory and she will be a witness to her son's "death" repeatedly.
She would feel the pain of losing a child & that would be her "poetic justice".
When Mia breaks Shazia's car window it legitimately scared me.
Same but i expected the insurance lady to fight back, I don't know why she didn't, she had nothing to lose
Me too!!! I literally thought it was ridiculous how I NEVER scream in movies but this exact moment got me. I was really emerged in the episode. Second time I saw the episode it did nothing though, first time was so...wow.
Sure she was Jason Voorhees by that point.
Moral of the story: always make sure your engine's working right.
I kept thinking that either Shazia is the weakest person alive or Mia is the strongest person alive. lol
One thing I wish you’d brought up is the possible manipulation of memories. We hear throughout that memories are subjective. When Shazia looks into the dentists memory he recalls the woman in the yellow jacket as having worn a lime colored jacket. When Shazia corrects him the jacket turns to a yellow one and he doesn’t argue with her about it. I imagine it would be easy to coerce someone into remembering something differently for a number of unscrupulous purposes.
ManAboutTown1000 never even thought about that, really great point though
Yeah it’s how memories work, if this technology did exist. It would be a bit unreliable in modern police work. You would need the memories of multiple people and try to piece the story of what happened together.
i noticed that too
@@oopsiepoopsie2898 she actually mentioned that. She needed more witnesses to puzzle out the scene.
she did try to manipulate her memories though (like what she did in the restroom). but she was just so disturbed about her crime that she failed to do so
I think we've found the new feature at white bear theme park.
Ken U I thought that too....
White Bear Justice Park it's not a theme park like Disneyland
it kinda is tho
Grace Eclavea It basically is...just not in name
“Justice park” apologies folks
the actress that played Mia just excelled in this episode. great acting indeed
Have you seen her in Oblivion? She's truly stunning
The scene were Shazia recites a prayer before her death was so powerful and emotional
yep , i got chill from that scene . In Islam if you about to die you must say that word for mercy in the eyes of god .
It's Arabic. She recites: "We belong to Allah (God) and to Allah (God) we shall return."
Ikr. Best scene on black mirror. I literally cried like a baby.
Btw she recited a Quranic prayer "Inna lillahi wa inna ilayehi rajioon" (2:156) from the Qur'an which translates to "Indeed, to Allah we belong and to Him we shall return
That was beautiful
@@mariomm9080 why?
Nothing about the
G U I N E A P I G M E M O R I E S ?
headbite alien I was waiting for that!!! Not even a mention 😩
I know right!
Such a shit moment.
Exactly haha
How did she not see the Guinea pig in the corner of the room anyway?
OMG I LITERALLY CALLED IT WHEN I WAS WATCHING THE EPISODE AS SOON AS THEY PANNED OVER TO THE BABY
I was interested to see how an animal memory looks like
I'm thinking the Guinea pig was incredibly lonely. Guinea pigs need companions otherwise they get stressed out and don't last as long..It's not encouraged to own a single Guinea pig..
Rhey stfu
@@wonderbread4323 stfu
@@user-trrwvfk get a life bitch
@@winonathequeen stfu
I genuinely thought that Mia was contemplating taking the baby to look after (since she just killed the parents) and I thought the worst outcome would be that she'd leave the poor baby abandoned. NEVER DID IT CROSS MY MIND THAT SHE WANTED TO KILL THE BABY- I was absolutely HORRIFIED!
how would that conversation have gone down with her husband?
"hey honey I've decided to adopt a child without having to sign any paperwork at all, surprise!"
Edit:"and there's no birth certificate either!"
Ikr. I initially read the scene as her kinda seeing the impact of what she’d done. Seeing that she’d killed the parents of that child. That scene never read ‘oh snap now I gotta kill a baby’
Guess everyones different. When i heard the baby i was absolutely terrified. knowing that she probably now thinks about killing it aswell. Terrible. Absolutely terrible.
So now shes in that situation. Thats pretty shitty. Obviously you want to
I justintime4u2bu I haha I was thinking maybe she'd hide the baby and sneak around
lmao you have such a pure soul, I can't imagine the horror you felt
Why does everyone hate the guinea pig scene? I thought it wasnt that bad, especially after 45 minutes of the darkest shit I've seen in black mirror I could do with a good laugh.
Plus the fact that she got ratted out by a literal rodent is kinda amazing
wdym, its a pig not a rodent
@@f.t.wibowo5260 LMFAO ARE YOU SERIOUS???! Having a pig in their name does not mean that they are a pig. GUINEA PIGS are NOT pigs nor are they from Guinea. Guinea Pigs are rodents and are somehow closely related to hamsters.
@@imafbiladidap2776 so according to you siberian tiger is neither a tiger nor it is from siberia, minnesota timberwolves are neither wolves nor it is from minnesota, and tasmanian devil are neither a devil nor it is from tasmania.
You finish your grade school yet? come back to me when you do.
@@chivasregal2124 here we go again. Im giving examples, funny you said that because it seems like you are the one who need to comprehend
@@f.t.wibowo5260 guinea pigs are rodents, not pigs as the name implies. The reason they have pig in their name is because their squeaking reminds many people of baby piglets noise. They can also be known as cavia porcellus. They have more relations and similarities to the rodent family, thus they are rodents. If you still have questions, google is a thing.
if that girl’s car started faster she would have survived
If she just acted normally after seeing those memories and made out like she didn't see them and only the pizza van accident then she'd have survived.
Kinda hard not to react to seeing someone being murdered. Remember, she was only expecting to see porn because that's what the hotel clerk told her.
Troy Bakeman if I've just seen someone's memories and know they are capable of murder I wouldn't do anything that would put myself in harms way and if that means acting normal then so be it but I know where you're coming from.
jonathan finch I agree, I mean I completely understand why she reacted the way she did, but if she had acted like all she saw was the pizza truck memory, then she would have gotten away
Hence don't buy Suzuki
I feel like Mia is an exercise in empathy. How evil does she have to be before we can stop truly empathizing with her and feeling for her? Running a guy over and panicking and hiding the body is bad, but her emotions are understandable and it was her boyfriend who urged her to cover it up. When she kills the (now ex-)boyfriend, it's bad, but you can still relate to her desperate desire to preserve her life (while the ex seems to have few to care about him, and is clearly struggling in general). As the episode goes in, her murders become less and less sympathetic, from killing the good-natured insurance agent, to killing the insurance agent's husband and finally her child. At some point, you realize that she is beyond redemption, that you are no longer okay with her getting away with it, no longer empathize with her as a person. That she is a monster who did monstrous thing, and here you were totally feeling for her for a shamefully long time, even after she murdered a couple of people. That's my hot take anyway
Just the Coolest Dude Yo I like it
Thanks!
I totally agree with you, the first thing I asked someone after watching this episode was "did you root for her?" but my thoughts did not go all the way like you. thanks for enlighting my brain lol
i empathized with her about the car thing but once she killed her ex bf i stopped empathizing with her. the car was an Accident and yes it was bad but this was cold murder which i cant empthasize with. I get if you can but i think theres a big difference between an accident that her bf caused and her helping cover up and choking someone out because you dont want to deal with what happened.
I think everyone has a different point where they completely stop sympathizing. It's interesting to read different perspectives of when that was for them!
I found it odd that her friend went sober while she began to drink obsessively.
juhabaka peci I liked the parallel of this guy who seems totally unchanged, and unsuccessful, whereas Mia appears different and extremely successful. In the end it’s the one that’s decided to move on that forgets about th murder, and the one that has stuck to his roots that wishes to make amends. He wants to make things right, she just wants to keep things right for herself. This causes her lack of sympathy.
Except it was his fault / idea in the first place
I mean in all honesty she had less to be guilty about because he was the one who actually killed him. Of course hiding it was bad but the guilt of actually causing his death in the first place would be much greater.
@@SaraStar7373 What if he turned out successful? Would he have had the same conscious?
@@rhey81 Probably not remember how Mia kept on saying that "you don't understand" . She has a family , is respected , a positive reputation , money , power basically she has it all she has a lot to lose a lot to protect whereas her ex has nothing but a guilty conscience.
When Shazia was talking about the "not since last year", I took that as meaning that the machine was no longer just for police work but now distributed for other jobs such as insurance, perhaps even therapy.
Carina Kriessman yeah me too
Exactly
Yup.
Connecting this with the "guinea pig memory", the police were only after a face match. And they were able to extract it because the memory was recent. Also, since police were the first people to use the recaller, they might have the more advanced version compared to what the insurance company has. Shazia was working on pinpointing the speed of the delivery van anyway, hence the need to crowdsource from different witnesses. And if people say a guinea pig's memory is shit, let's not forget that the machine may not even have humans as its first participants. Specimens from lab experiments are called guinea pigs for a reason.
because that’s what she meant lol
dammit I'm sad that while taking about visual representation of Mia's blending into her environment you didn't mention that one shot of her dark reflection in the car rearview mirror. She looked exactly like a crocodile waiting for its prey in the water with its head slightly above the surface
And the one scene when the lady's husband was in the bathtub, Mia was hiding in the stairs in the darkness like a crocodile.
I enjoy that you need the validation of a CZcams video
Bro.
I love the fact that the antagonist has to perform more and more monstrous acts as the episode goes on.
First, she is a witness to an accidental killing, then helps hide the body.
Secondly, she accidentally murders someone to protect herself.
Thirdly, she intentionally murders someone who comes to her, to protect herself.
Fourthly, she goes out of her way to intentionally murder someone with a connection to protect herself.
Lastly, she intentionally murders an innocent baby to protect herself.
I love how the speed of the murders only increases as she gets faster and faster in deciding in what she is going to do. Brilliant directing
The crocodile grew hungrier and hungrier...
" accidentally murders to protect herself ". The murder didn't look accidental and even if it was, that statment made no sense.
Pathetic what I meant was, killing wasn’t the intention, only stopping him was
You can't even accidentally murder someone anyway. It has to be premeditated to be murder, probs got away with Rob with manslaughter, say that he attacked her haha.
Rick Baker Murder is not defined by premeditation, but intention. The intent of the person is the defining factor, hence manslaughter is not with a purpose to kill, but murder is.
She did a very good job acting, I love this episode .
So...that brings us to Hang the DJ next.
Oh boy
Panic
Dylan Davies in the streets of London
I loved that episode right until the ending :/
Best episode of Series 4
Dylan Davies at the Disco
Guinea pig: *I'm about to end this woman's whole career*
That actress displayed Mia's emotions SO WELL, I cannot handle how well she represents the mix of so many torn emotions Mia feels, killing so much while being such an empathetic person, out of so much fear, panic, & helplessness. I just . . . DAMN GURL
I think so many miss a major theme throughout the episode. She is originally a witness to a crime (her boyfriend hitting a man and hiding the body). The reason she is guilty is for helping him hide the evidence though she begged him not to. What other choice might she have made? He was not a stable sort of person. Had she decided to not help, her body could have ended up in the lake along with the cyclist. But if she turned him in later she would have gone to jail as an accomplice after helping him. Then she witnesses the pizza truck hit a person and is later told she is legally required to witness to the crime. This is saying we are making criminals of witnesses, legal requirements to testify through subpoena comes to mind. Then the series of killings to follow are a series of witnesses, each victim of hers is the same as her in the beginning, a witness to a crime. She is symbolically killing more of herself, the humanity in her being killed with each victim all to silence the cries of her dark past culminating in her killing a defenseless baby. Symbolically she is killing her own innocence. An innocence she didn't have to kill (as the baby was blind) saying she as a witness to the first crime did not need to suffer for having witnessed it but legal systems would make her an accomplice to the crime and ruin her future. That is what I got from this episode.
Elias Dangar what a fucking novel
Great addition to the analysis!
Didn't they do drugs at the club or wherever they were at the start of the episode?? I mean if she does the honest thing, he goes to jail, she probably gets popped for what was in her system and that goes on her record and she never gets to do what she wants to do anyway.. Isn't the point then, don't drink and do drugs..
There's no way she would have gone to jail as an accomplice in that scenario. If she had any reason to believe her life was in danger, I'm pretty sure any police officer with the slightest bit of common sense wouldn't hold her accountable if she alerted police as soon as she could. Police would never tell you 'do the right thing, even if it's unsafe and could endanger you'.
Underrated comment.
I was hoping for an explanation as to how a 90 pound woman could overpower her victims
Lucian Gray Lol! I thought the same thing!
Lucian Gray adrenaline
I work out and probably have more muscle than this woman, but I'm skinny and around the same height and I probably still could not overpower all those men even WITH adrenaline. Just stupid.
Just by pure will power and murderous intention 😐
Rob comments her physic early on in the hotel
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no. please no.
Obey Amma yeah there are a lot of videos where they “analyze “ black mirror episodes but they’re just talk about everything we see in the episode, not what everything means.
Harry's Moving Castle I like your reply hahahaha. you're the only one who truly analyzes
You speak nothing but TRUTH! I came across this channel when I was first looking for analysis of Black Mirror and watched all this videos from season 1-3. At the time, he didn't have any reviews for season 4 up so I went searching elsewhere. To my disappointment, no one else actually analyzed the show, only recounted everything we already saw! And have the nerve to call it an analysis! (insert eye roll). So I learned to just wait for his videos to come out and boy, I couldn't be happier!
Funny how black mirror once again predicts the future with the self driving pizza delivery vehicles
Pentox I remember a kind of a bad 90s movie the net with Sandra Bullock. She ordered a pizza online. It seemed quite weird and lazy back in the day :) Who needs such a service. Fast forward 15 to 20 years and you can order a pizza online even in a small town.
It’s called predictive programming...black mirror didn’t predict it.....these technologies are already in development for some time..we just get to find out through media
Is it that funny?
If self driving cars already exist, one of the safest guesses you could make would be that self driving cars get more specialized like for pizza.
Why do people keep calling it a hamster? it's a guinea pig
THANK YOU. Its so easy to tell the two apart I'm starting to think people have never seen either of the two in their whole lives.
Idk my more tame guinea pig ran in his tunnel when I started watching this
I don't know why you said it was bleak my man. I for one loved the episode. That ending really got to me. I'm surprised you didn't mention it, but when her son is performing the song, there's a part where he counts to 4, "1-2-3-4!" and the camera really quickly cuts to Mia's face and she looks even MORE distraught. The line is then followed by what you pointed out, "we could have been anything we wanted to be."
You're right that song does make her reflect on what she had done. She herself had killed 4 people. Her boyfriend killed the innocent biker, not her. She only helped dispose of the body, but she didn't kill him.
The people she killed (In order) were Mia's boyfriend, Shazia, Shazia's husband/boyfriend, and the baby. I think that 1-2-3-4 part brutally reminds her that she killed 4 people, and I love that it's her child that is inadvertently telling her that!
Omg I didnt notice that. Good find!
I actually interpreted the title Crocodile after the fact that crocodiles hide under water for a very long time before a potential victim unknowably approach them and gets eaten. That's the case with almost all of her victims thoughout the episode. Shazia incidetally get to know about the first murder, and the rest of her family are killed just in order to not make them trace the dissapearence of Shazia back to her.
The episode was great, but the fact that police could read visual memory from a guinea pig made me laugh SO hard!
Also that tiny needle that goes into our head would seem much larger to a guinea pig, I imagine it could reach her skull and seriously harm her. Unless they have special small needles specifically for when they need to recall recent memories from rodents :D (their memory probably doesn't stay vivid for long).
when they showed the baby after Mia killed the husband, I thought it was her realizing what she had done, leaving an innocent child to be an orphan, especially since she had a child herself. when the policeman asked “who kills a baby?” I swear I got chills through my whole body. definitely one of the most disturbing black mirror episodes in my opinion.
Yay- new Black Mirror analysis!
Must say, I found Mia's killing/hiding the body of Rob slightly ridiculous as she only weighs about 6 stone and it just didn't come off as something she'd be able to manage alone.
I agree with everything you say prob adrenaline
I had the same thought ! But I have read that the story was originally written with a male protagonist, but Andrea Riseborough (Mia) suggested that the part could be rewritten as a woman... In the original version the murder and hiding of a body would have been more believable ahah
That makes sense that it was originally written for a male because that would explain why Shavia (sp?) was so helpless and couldn't fight back against another woman (Mia).
@thedarkoverlord6902 Not to go to a dark place but if what you were saying was true then rape wouldn’t be an issue. Adrenaline is a hell of a thing but it still won’t allow you to overpower and murder someone twice your size. Sorry.
This has to be the only episode that has bothered me this much. Mia's character is absolutely disgusting. It's impossible for me to sympathize with someone so vile and apathetic out of self interest.
I didn't sympathize with her, I was just wondering how she was going to get caught.
Prioritizing other people over one's self interest is nice and all, but would you if the alternative was to spend your entire life in jail? I think she's a very strong woman doing what was necessary for her, while most people wouldn't be able to do that.
@@EatYourVegs Taking responsibility is a much stronger act than hurting and killing those around you in order to evade responsibility for your actions.
im the opposite of your opinion , i always see my self as mia and rooting for her till the end , idk if that make me psico or something lol . i made mistake and try to forget that thing and gonna do everything for it not to be known .
Rama Drama the fbi wants to know your location
I would argue that Mia is the protagonist.
To me protagonist is whoever is the main character. The most prominent character who is opposed to the main character is the antagonist. So Shazzia would be antagonist.
Protagonists don't have to be heroes. Antagonists don't have to be villains.
Bobby Ranger you're right. It's not a matter of opinion. It's in the definition of the word
@@Marblewho exactly why are people even arguing about that.
@@alainlepain4808 because they're slow and don't know antagonist and protagonist mean
lol what? She's OBVIOUSLY the protagonist, she's just the villain protagonist. Which has been done MANY times before. There's nothing to "Argue" about, nor is it "to YOU" at all either. She's in FACT the main protagonist.
Mia is my most hated character of the entire series
And with good reason
Her dumb hair Cut doesn’t help either
Ahmed Shaltoot Psst. Mia was the killer, not the Muslim woman
@Ahmed Shaltoot She said MIA gosh
@@touko_nanami I think it's hot
I think Mia can't be a tragic hero because she is not truly remorseful for her actions nor given a sympathetic enough motivation to have killed those people. Maybe if the victims were unlikable and if the baby wasn't killed.
A) she was remorseful
B) Macbeth is considered a tragic hero and he also killed a whole family for no reason other than to stay in power
+Bemard Soul when did she appear remorseful? at what moment? if she reallg felt remorseful about killing shazia she wouldnt have went after her family. she was selfish and sociopathic
*wouldn't have GONE. Not using that to attack your argument, it just really bothered me.
You can see it in her face. That's how true emotions are conveyed in such media as television, as contrasted to a book, where you can read a person's exact thoughts.
@@bernardsoul5186 The whole point was you couldn't tell what she was thinking off her face because she's a sociopath.
night4345
Mia’s clearly upset in the last scene. Teary-eyed, disconnected from the performance (thoughts about the horrible things she did) leaned on her husband (emotional support).
When Mia kills the insurance agent, Mia is clearly distraught. Mia tells her to close her eyes and even lets Shazia finish her prayer before killing her. We then immediately see Mia run out of the building openly sobbing.
Mia wants to protect herself and her family from her crimes. All that hard work put into her career, loving husband and child disappears at the end. It’s a depressing double edged sword; keep killing until it goes away or confess and lose everything.
I kind of like the costume design. Where she wore warm colours and had long hair in her youth, but now is ice cold with a hint of Myra Hindly :P It was a great episode. Sort of a tragic anti-hero character.
Honey Suckle good eye!
She didn't ask for the thug life. The thug life found her. lol
Looks more like Ellen DeGeneres to me lol.
"Anyone who knows what love is" was 100% purposeful... The song is about an abusive relationship and how you end up staying because you love certain things about it but not others. Mia didn't want to kill people, she didn't like it.. but she did it because it protected things she loved.
wow spot on
@Ryanator true honestly. the more she killed, the less it seemed to be about her family, and the more it felt that she did this just to get away with it.
what pisses me off the most is that after ruining so many lives, she probably still feels sorry for herself.
It's about self preservation, why is no one mentioning this
Mia have mastered the ability of standing so incredibly still that she became invisible to the eye
I get the reference!
Lol
I think another important point is that if it wasn't for the recaller machine, there would have been less murders. And the fact that memories can be manipulated. You can make a person recall memories that never happened, just through manipulation.
i really wished you had talked about how shazia's (the middle eastern girl) car was not working that well in the begging and when she tried to get bak in the car wouldn't start
But that's just obvious foreshadowing. Not necessary to analyze.
I disagree that it was obvious because I totally didn't catch that. That's actually pretty smart foreshadowing/payoff as most movies/tv shows would just have the car not starting be completely random.
Troy Bakeman well it was obvious to me.
That was a really good detail and added to the tension of her escape scene from Mia knowing that her car has a tendency of having trouble starting.
Dude you're the best analyser of Black Mirror, other analysers just dont compare, I always get so excited when I see you have uploaded. Keep it up man, the details you spot and relate to the narrative are way past anything ive ever noticed
Great analysis! Crocodile belongs to my favorite episodes because of the beautiful composed scenes, the bleak storyline and her incredible acting.
I guess people don’t like it because of the baby scene and the guinea pig reveal and because they think her actions were irrational. But to me, whose eyes are glued to the screen looking for small details, this episode gave me the chills (and heavy depression for 2 days).
it always baffles when people expect rationality from humans 24/7 in all kind of situations (even when you've just killed someone) when we aren't even rational in our everyday life.
Eli N.S THANK YOU!
the guinea pig scene was the best one tho, for it's almost comical sense of justice.
Rick D exactly! And the baby being blind was the cherry on top that she didn’t even need to kill it.
OfficialEDC yes!!! You said it better than I could. I loved it!
does the guinea pig get a beer during the memory test lol.
I don't agree with seeing the technology in this episode as good. Yes, it could help catch murderers, but what other people could it catch? What other things could it do? It's the invasion of everyone's most private thing: our own minds. The fact that this technology is forced upon people by law is a disturbing idea.
Murdered anyone lately? 😂
It's also manipulatable
@@sharonshiku3273 nope but the memories can be tampered with. The one man originally remembered a green jacket and when shania said it was yellow the memory changed it to have a yellow jacket. Ita unreliable. Also the Guinea pig wouldnt have been useful as you have to think on the incident. How are you going to get a ginea pig to do that?
@@bluedragon8762 If the baby screamed or made a fuss it could have made the guinea pig nervous and maybe that was the main thing on her mind still.
Great analysis as always, although one little thing that you let pass is that Shazia didn't say that the police didn't use it anymore. She said that now not only them use it, but everyone. But is just a detail.
Regarding the episode's depiction of surveillance - yes, the murders wouldn't have been solved without it, but also the murders never would have happened.
Eh, I thought it was okay, the Shazia character was interesting though
eh, what was so interesting about her exactly?
I would've preferred if she was the main character
the technology of the episode was actually interesting, it's a shame this wasn't the focus of the episode.
headbite alien the tech is never the focus of the episode
Gioiscool Yes it is
headbite alien no it’s not. The people are.
The worst part is her ex boyfriend just wanted to give another family closure. she didn't technically do anything as she wasn't the one driving but now she's a cold blooded killer :/
I mean, even if he sends the letter anonymously, the tech they have in their world can be used to track them both and if she can be jailed for being an accomplice, her career is screwed.
1. The water on the screen also represents the water they threw the body into.
2. Shazia didn't lie about the police bit. She only said that it's not only for police since last year, meaning police still use it, but also other entities are allowed to use this technology now.
Isn't Mia the protagonist? She's the main character of the episode, even if she is "evil".
54321oiraMoiraM you can also argue that she is the antagonist to Shariva's protagonist
54321oiraMoiraM She's a villian protagonist
Yeah, protagonist is just the focus of the story so it's definitely Mia. If anyone's the antagonist it's the Recaller device because it opposes Mia's motives.
i liked how the trailer mislead us into thinking that Shazia was the main character. but in the end she was just another body.
Haku GT no Mia is the protagonist. She is the focus of the episode, the main character
I think 'crocodile' could be a reference to "See you later, aligator" because everytime she kills someone the murder comes up later in the story, but this is mostly shooting in the dark
Dávid Strenner I read on a website that it referenced a fable of a hamster being the downfall of a crocodile
or "See you in awhile, crocodile."
Crocodiles and alligators are two different animals
I still don't particularly like this episode, but I appreciate the cinematography a lot more 👍
Same. It was a little too messed up, even for Black Mirror. Just watched it, and pretty sure this episode is gonna mess me up for a week.
Sofia A. A bit too messed up is what I love about black mirror
your videos add so much more substance to the episodes for me than I could of imagined. I never studied cinematography, i dont know much about it, but when you point out the absolutely beautiful shots in the scenes I am amazed at the talent that goes into filming these. Thank you SO MUCH
In a series that has mastered twist endings in a way that would make M. Night jealous, this has one of the best twists in ANY movie or TV show. That they can synthcord the rodent to identify the killer.....
Nice video! I thought it was a good episode within the season. However, I don't think it would come close to the top when including every episode in the show.
i agree, i loved it in this season, but when you think about some of the other black mirror episodes it doesn't quite hit the bar
People are usually less accepting of the episodes with a female lead,
Fuck off.
When you realise that every episode of Season 4 had a female lead, but you still blame sexism.
James James I'm a feminist and i agree with you. The person you were arguing with doesn't represent us. I just felt that i had to tell you this. Have a nice day! 😊
I feel that this episode shows surveillance as a negative even though it ends up saving the day, it is also the prime motivation for the crimes to escalate and become worse and worse - the only reason she gets caught is because of something she didn't know about - and if she did, it would have died too.
I love your black mirror analysis, i seriously don't see any videos that go in-depth like you do. I always come back to check them out
your videos are absolutely incredible! I was so excited when I saw the announcement for this. I love seeing what I pick up on while watching vs. what other people notice. thank you for making these!
She is no where near perfect, but Robert lead her down a path of cover up and forget. Mia wanted to face the consequences then and there when it happened, but now Robert wants to take responsibility years after the fact. Mia had created a life to forget there horrible deed and it seems that Robert is just doing this because he hasn't bettered himself like she has. I believe Robert is one of the antagonists since it was his actions that lead pushed Mia down a path to eventually becoming a monster.
Wouldn't it make sense that Robert hasn't bettered himself if he's living with the guilt of what happened? He finally makes the decision to redeem himself and relieve the burden but Mia spent so long suppressing and denying any responsibility that she would happily murder an old friend instead of just listening to what he had to say
Mia allowed herself to become a monster by killing him which she didn't have to do. She also didn't have to kill the woman or her family. Itnwasnt an impulse kill. She chose to do it. And she shed crocodile tears not because she was sorry but because she wanted to cover her own ass by whatever means necessary. Sure it was Roberts fault to begin with but even if he hadnt come to her about telling the truth, she probably would have been arrested alongside him anyway because she was an accomplice. They were both in the wrong but she ended up becoming far worse.
Pathetic I think the point is that the accident was his fault as he was driving. She wouldn't have faced the consequences of it if they had come clean in the first place, he would. She chose to lie and by doing that she incriminated herself to protect him and then he decides to come clean which put her in danger not because she was involved in the accident but because she helped cover it up for him. So basically he pressured her into incriminating herself and then was going to basically turn her in to alleviate his guilt. So when she was confronted with this she chose to put herself first rather than putting other people first because that only blew up in her face and that is how she became a monster.
It's quite easy that while Shazia was digging around in her head looking for stuff on the accident, that she got a glimpse of the cycler's murder also...and bam, her family still dies even without Robert's interference. So yeah...no. The only antagonist in the episode, is Mia.
From a narrative point of view, I think it is safe to say that Mia is the protagonist, and both Shazia and Robert serves as antagonists (sounds really horrible, but that is kind of the point of the story). It is Mia's character arc we are following, it is Mia's conclusion we are landing on. Shazia and Robert are both antagonists because they are getting in the way of Mia's goal, which is to live life guilt free and with no legal chargers. This is not a story about moral growth, quite the opposite to be honest, which is why it is more or less impossible to root for someone like Mia. But yeah, it is still her story, she is still making the narrative choices, she is the protagonist.
Late comment but what I took the "police" comment was; is that it used to be *only* the police who had access to the recaller. As she says something to the effect of "we all have them now."
Love your videos as always man. I always watch these after the actual episodes religiously hahaha
i love your analysis of black mirror, really looking forward to new episodes for the rest of the series. Thanks for taking the time to make these :)
I think this is my favorite episode of the season. I don’t know why, but I loved it, the emotion of it all and the great acting (Specially the last scene of the episode. It’s incredible)
So how did you get caught? Well there was this guinea pig at a crime scene....
Tragic HERO??? Are you on glue?? She was the most loathsome character the show has given us yet! You've got to be trolling.
Tragic heroes can be loathsome; MacBeth, Titus Andronicus, Medea, Michael Corleone et cetera.
I mean she only did what was necessary to save her life from total destruction... Just that unlike other people she was able to do that because of her being a strong, acheiving woman and with low levels of empathy.
@@EatYourVegs Except of course turning herself in after the initial incident. If she got a good lawyer, claimed she only complied with the coverup out of fear for her life (which is plausible) she may have only faced a minor crime or even no charges in exchange for her testimony. The driver may have faced negligent homicide but that's far less extreme than 2nd (when she killed him) or 1st degree murder (when she killed everyone else).
I'm not saying if someone commits a serious crime the police are gonna be on your side, but it's a lot wiser to get yourself proper legal representation and go for a plea bargain than making the situation worse through efforts to cover it up.
Er, no. She is not a tragic hero. She is desperately human. She is confronted with the destruction of her own life but what she does in order to survive is unforgivable.
"Crocodile" is particularly striking for me because of how it slowly led me from sympathizing to utter frustration and fright. She seemed to be the one with more bravery and humanity at first, and later reveals her cold-blooded nature.
Really well done love how you look at what he camera shots represents.
Don't watch this episode before bed
Stevo Con The way she slinked around in that house before killing the insurance agent's husband was so creepy. Damn crocodiles...
Facts, I saw this every time I closed my eyes while I was trying to sleep
Can't wait for the metalhead analysis 😄
april may I’d love to hear your thoughts, this is one episode I didnt really get into
Sara Dickson i don't really know what i loved about it maybe it's the black and white filter or the thing that the entire episode is nearly speakless and he achieve to make you feel something or even the last shot that i find stunning. i am sad that you didn't appreciate :/ i think this is why black mirror is such a good series everyone has a different point of view depends on your personal experience you can love 15 million merits and hate black museum depends on what you been through i hope you enjoyed more the others episode :)
(Sorry for my bad english i am french and i am still learning)
april may I dislike metalhead but I agree with your points. all black mirror is good. it's up to us what to like most
yeah the metalhead analysis would be good, the endings of all S4 episodes (except for arkangel a bit) really turned the tables on the episodes which resulted in the narrative kinda getting a bit jumbled or at worst completely redundant
I agree completely! It was a different take on how technology affects us, with the theme being less about in-depth messages and more about how technology is moving towards an "ultimate end." The black&white really added to the bleak atmosphere and the acting (RIP Clarke) was amazing. The ending was really good too, giving you hope when Bella killed the dog and then bringing it right back down when she ended up full of trackers and committed suicide - all for some teddy bears.
Also, this episode introduced me to "Golden Brown" by The Stranglers, a really great song.
Honestly man amazing work with this one, your analysis videos have taught me a lot and I now notice a lot more when watching shows and movies which makes the experience even more enjoyable. I completely missed how Mia acts like a crocodile, and the connection with her trapping rob in her "jaws" was honestly genius. Keep up the amazing work, can't wait to see the next Harry Potter review!
This one didn't grab me like other episodes but watching this video made me see it in a whole new light Thanks!!!!
Is no one going to talk about the fact that a thin woman was able to hold back, pin down, and choke a pretty large man to death, AND was able to drag his body around afterward without much stress or effort? It completely took me out of the episode.
looks like it ,ignoring reality is the fashion these days
+MistuhWhite
The exact same thing happened to me! The problem was the man didn't even fight back! The best he done was to grab the back of her head and just kept it there! No pulling action or nothing! Typical feminist "average women can beat men up" bullshit!
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I take it you feel insecure about men being stronger than women? Playing little fantasies in your head is not reality. Enough with the female shaming language!
Yeah no way she would be able to overpower someone twice her size
He did seriously hit his head when falling. I'm guessing that was meant as an explanation. He got stunned, disoriented, something like that. He didn't expect violence and she got lucky.
Her dragging him around unnoticed though is tough. I get that there might be adrenaline involved, but even assuming she could drag him because of that, it would take a lot of time. Someone could have easily walked past her in the parking during that time. Also in the very beginning of the episode the guy was struggling hard with dragging another guy so in comparison this should have been near impossible.
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The entire point of the episode is that Mia goes on a killing spree because the memory machines left her no choice. It's extremely negative on surveillance.
Eric Taxxon yeah but then again if the tech wouldn’t have been there, she would have got away with it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
She would have gotten away with the first hit and run, no more murder needed after that.
Watch le whole video
Actually, she would have gotten away with two. Her "friend's" death was not a result of the surveillance.
She killed him because they would see her in the car with him when they read his memories. The subtext is very clear.
Great video, it was perfectly reviewed and analize. You remind me of my literature professor, always analyzing every freaking detail. Keep up the good content.
I LOOOVE YOUR VIDEOS AND ANALYSIS OF EACH EPISODE. KEEP THEM COMING :)
The final comment is, of course, on the striking difference between the kind of places that the insurance lady visits and lives in - very poor (particularly the lady she visits in the first place) and quite kind (the family is presented in a very positive light of course, but the house appears very basic) and the extremely rich house that our murderer lives in. In that, a comment is made perhaps on the stratification of society and the middle- and upper-classes preserving their status at all costs whilst keeping the lower classes in the dirt?
Yet another brilliant analysis.
I truly loved this episode and loved your take on it !!! Thank you for this video
Great analysis!!! I honestly couldn't figure out all the connotations to a crocodile, making it worthy of the title. Great breakdown man!
I honestly cannot wait for you to get your teeth into Black Museum! SO MANY EASTER EGGS
Yes another black mirror analysis
7:59 i like it how mia is so desperate to not let the secret out and wondering if shazia knows that she dosent even pay attention or feel pain when she steps on the rocks of her driveway and btw that stuff HURTS
This might be your best one yet.
Brilliant analysis.
These black mirror analysis are amazing! Can't wait for hang the DJ
Least favorite episode so far, it's so frustrating seeing her get away with all these murders especially the husband who saw her yet didn't block or anything, Mia's super skinny! I stopped sympathizing with Mia right after she murdered her ex, by then I just wanted her to get caught already..atleast she presumably got caught in the end with the Ginnie pig, Ginnie pig ftw!!!
It wasn't even like he wanted to admit to police or something. The chance it could be traced to her was very small.
I love your videos so much! As soon as I get my next paycheck I’m totally going to become a patron!
So many little details, black mirror is so awesome- and your analysis, the only ones i watch! thank you
Was i the only one rooting for mia to get exposed and arrested this whole time because she is willing to kill people before manning up and facing the consequences of her actions
Yeah, I have no sympathy for drunk drivers or people who abet them.
I was disappointed following Shazia uncovering Mia's memories. Up until then I was gripped. But killing an entire family jumped the shark for me.
I have to say your analyses are fantastic. I wish i could have a dialog with you about some of these episodes.
I’m so glad i found your channel!!
I love you harry ;)
Love you too whoever you are!
Blaine Truth hey....I saw him first!
yes cause the best hero's kill baby's for selfish reasons
I adore your videos!!! Absolutely brilliant :) Thank you so much for this!!
THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT! AN ACTUAL ANALYSIS! THANK YOU MY FRIEND- people need to stop recollecting what happened and calling at an analysis - I subscribed in the first few minutes- loved this!
The 'crocodile reference' appears to me as *moralism* .
The character Mia doesn't show "some guilt", but is *struggling* with EVERY single step on her path, when she almost constantly cries or is about to throw up - very much *unlike* *a* *coldblooded* (reference to a *reptilian* ) psychopath, who gains confidence by the ability to force his will upon others. All of her murders were *strictly* necessary in order to avoid a severe impact on her family due to a lapse of judgement in her youth: when Rob commits manslaughter by accident and refuses to take responsibility.
It is precisely because Mia feels *compassion* for victims and their families from the moment on, the bicyclist was run over, a haunting sense of *tragedy* can be experienced from this episode.
Everyone who easily judges and devalues her character's actions as "unspeakable", "monstrous", "wicked" ect. obviously feels no serious obligations to a family. The proper attribute for the depicted events, free from moralism, is simply that: *sad* !
And the technological progress that helps to solve the crimes can't prevent the escalation of these sad events that life unfolds...
True
@@deprofundis3293
The most popular comments appear as if uttered by children, watching a 'Punch and Judy' play, knowing what to say when _the crocodile_ enters the stage - because they sense how the other children react, up to the adults who arrange the play.
They are still children, because they have not yet experienced that without the antagonist, there can be no play.
I absolutely loved this episode. It’s second on my list. Don’t know why everyone is hating it. Also, love your analysis videos :)
inglourious basterds this is also my fave episode of all episodes. Shut up and dance is right there for me as well. 🍻 Cheers.
I loved Shut Up and Dance. I guess my mind is totally f***d.
Martin Rangel it’s number one on my list of all seasons. I guess i am too.
inglourious basterds what's is your second favourite?
People hated it because we didn’t get to see any justice
In my opinion crocodile is one of the most darkest episode of black mirror
I am in love with you.
Your stuff is massively on point. Well job.