Fun fact: It is actually possible to replicate this in vanilla Dark Souls III. In the Smoldering Lake, Knight Slayer Tsorig can be summoned as a white phantom for the Old Demon King boss fight. At the same time, the real Tsorig awaits the player further inside the area. If one carefully clears out/avoids the enemies it is possible to lure one Tsorig to the other and make them fight each other.
@@JohnDoe-ligma normal version is stronger i believe. Because i fought his red phantom version and killed him quickly. But human version was challenging
I actually always do this. But I bring Cuculus as well. They definitely have the same AI (unlike some npcs) but the real one must have like 30% more hp or something because I have to Intervene or my phantom dies.
@@adan1221 same. i was a sorcerer but i didnt read my little sign on the floor so had no idea how to use it. he taught me how to parry tho and im ever grateful for that
Before NG+ I always use the dark hand to get as much humanity as possible, and I always leave Laurentius alone. He really feels like a friend to the Chosen Undead, moreso than any other character
@@eloelo6944 I go Burg > Parish > Depths to get Laurentius and the Ember, then I go Firelink > New Loneo > Valley of the Drakes > Blighttown to ring the other bell, then I either kill Ingward or go after the Lordvessel, depending on when I want that next ember
@@thefreebooter8816 student to one of the most powerful sorcerers in the land and the best thing he can come up with is soul peashooter and using a fucking dagger an a broken shield. if theres anyone who deserves going hollow is griggs.
4:52 Hollowed Laurentius is so far gone, he goes to use his axe for pyromancies. Maybe he found Quelana who showed him some fire sorcery and he mistook his axe for a catalyst in his madness...?
...I remembered that Laurentius can't find Quelana cuz she have the spell which made everyone who don't have an upto lv10 Pyromancy Flame cannot seen her and...maybe he doesn't have it:))
@@Fibblethip nah, I don't think so. Creatures which was been reincarnated by Undead Rapport only attack who the user thinks that they are enemies. And if you know, the lasting time of skill are also applies to NPCs too:))
@@tempestkana6506 I’m going to elaborate on what I said, I think that laurentius goes to find quelana after we (he and the chosen undead) obtain equal talent in n puromancy from him. Eventually he does find her, and I think he catches her off guard when she isn’t invisible and she uses undead rapport on him. I believe that rapport basically turns the target into a complacent slave that does whatever you want for the duration of the spell and that they only attack baddies for gameplay reasons. When she used rapport I think she had him forget he ever saw her and then went invisible. By the time the spell wore off I think laurentius kept looking and eventually went hollow in his searching and that’s how we find him. I do like the fire sorcery theory though, it suggests that hollows do have some semblance of memory of what happened when they were human. But that begs the question: which came first fire or soul sorcery?
Vince of Thorolund: "I'll lose to anyone, even me!" Nico of Thorolund: Who? Griggs: (Choking noises) Logan: "I may have killed me, but at least I killed myself back!" Crestfallen Warrior: (parry sound) "Oh dear, how could you let THAT happen?" Laurentius: "Stay safe, friend, and don't you dare go Hollow." Solaire: "A Sun may make you stronger, but it won't make you better." (Fixed typo) Mildred: "Maybe being on the good side isn't so bad... At least I get some spicy spider meat!" Leeroy: (Mutual THUD noise)
solaire fight was poetic being alone made the fight greatly unfair, he couldnt make a dent at his madness. but being together (being summoned) gives him the strenght to overcome his weakness
(And also because he's supposed to be summoned in the two toughest (without dlc) boss fights, and it makes sense he becomes stronger when embracing the light of madness)
Leeroy fight went exactly like every strenght build goes in this game, and the way he look at the camera at the end as if saying "what did you expect?"
@@alexidu25 I think I've done it before on a mage build. Like maybe if I tried swapping between my melee weapon and my catalyst somehow the catalyst casting animation would activate while my melee weapon was still in my hand. Maybe i'm remembering that wrong though.
I mean technically you skipped Rhea, who has a living version and the hollow version from the Archive Tower, but given that Hollow Rhea only punches and hits like a whoopee cushion tied to a kitten, and Living Rhea has no self-preservation instinct at all, it'd probably be a very long, boring 'fight'.
If I was feeling particularly philosophical I would say this is symbolic of the internal struggle that goes on every day in an undeads mind, but I’m not so I’ll just sit here and w00t at the pixel men fighting for my amusement.
Vince of Thorolund truly loses against anything even himself, but that self wasn't exactly the same as Vince , hence that one actually having the ability to win
This is basically what happens on the mind of an Undead close to becoming a hollow, they fight with the Hollowed version of themselves... and if they end up losing....
Conclusion: hollowed and mad versions of NPCs are more aggressive but more impulsive. They also can seem more powerful due to this, but that isn't the case. They simply are more likely to attack. DS1 invader NPCs are also useless
You know... There's just something poetic about these fights. Vince and Nico both succumbed to the undead curse, and such they both get defeated by their hollow counterparts. Griggs also became a hollow, in pursuit of pursuing the knowledge of his master, Logan. But he didn't need to be, he could've remained unhollow, but as in the fight, he left it open for it to destroy him, and thus the curse won. Big Hat Logan went mad with the knowledge of seathe, and it destroyed him completely. Fittingly, in his fight, he could have won over his madness, but his madness took him down with it. In the end, neither he or his madness won. The next three are unique to me. The Crestfallen warrior is interesting. Yes, he hollows, but throughout the game, despite his pessimism, his nihilism, and his doubts, he still wanted to live, and still retained the skills to prove it. He was a man driven by fear and despair, but if backed into a corner, he was willing to fight to the death. And I suppose, that sort of drive trumps the curse of hollowing. But that depends on your choice to abandon him, or be with him. Laurentius is a similar story. Yes he can hollow, but like the crestfallen warrior, it depends on your choice. Only in this instance, Laurentius found a friend in you, someone who he could share pyromancy with, someone who he could care about. And that kind of friendship is what continues to give him purpose to defeat the hollowing curse. For as long as you keep him away from his ambition, he will never hollow. Similar thing for Solaire too. He is your friend, and an ambitious one too. And ultimately, your choices can decide whether he succumbs to hollowing/madness, should you abandon him to his short-sighted whims, or protect him from ambition, as you can with Laurentius and Crestfallen. It's with your friendship, he can overcome the madness/hollowing. And Mildred? ... well... Mildred as a summon is more stronger than as an invader because this was the most generous thing Fromsoft has ever done for anyone in any of their games.
It really was. Sometimes I forget that the Combustion pyromancies actually have decent range (for close quarters combat). It's why it's a great tool for shield-breaking enemies and other players (if they're turtling).
Regular Solaire vs. Mad Solaire... Mad Solaire has the advantage of having had the whole journey behind him. Regular hadn't even set foot past the Hellkite Drake yet.
It's strange to see how much more powerful the summons are than the invaders. In Bloodborne for example, the summons are considerably weaker than the hostile NPCs (there aren't really NPC invaders in Bloodborne in the same way as DSR, and DS3.)
Hollow Griggs made me lol . Everyone else's hollow looks like a dead version of themselves, but Griggs just looks like he put on way too much black eyeliner....like he's really into bands like Bullet for My Valentine and has stopped taking showers daily .
I find it funny that Solaire is massively stronger when he's helping others than just fighting on his own
Because when its about helping a sunbro, Solaire gives everything
Power of friendship
Because Jolly cooporation
Philosofal
Because power of friendship applies to Sunbro \[T]/
Griggs made the best comeback in anime's history, just to stay still at the last blow
Feels bad 😅
He was monologging!
I'd say its a heavy twist considering it was his hollow version !
Griggs: ITS KRILLER TIM-*thud* its never gonna be a thing...
i can't believe he actually threw that fight, he was so close to winning and choked
I really like that Leroy doesn't have a different strategy whether he invades or is summoned. It's all Leroy, all the time.
he has 2 attacks: bonk
retreat and cast heal twice while any enemy is still hitting me, flexing the power of POISE.
well as they say,
LEROYYYYYY JENKIIIIIIINS
Exactly.
Paladins share one single brain cell
Griggs: The definition for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
"Ya know, I didn't wanna win anyways."
Fun fact: It is actually possible to replicate this in vanilla Dark Souls III. In the Smoldering Lake, Knight Slayer Tsorig can be summoned as a white phantom for the Old Demon King boss fight. At the same time, the real Tsorig awaits the player further inside the area. If one carefully clears out/avoids the enemies it is possible to lure one Tsorig to the other and make them fight each other.
Gonna try that on my no bonfire run
I've done this irl but either the normal version is stronger or the phantom has terrible ai because I've never seen it win
@@JohnDoe-ligma normal version is stronger i believe. Because i fought his red phantom version and killed him quickly. But human version was challenging
You mean like this? Lol
czcams.com/video/bt-NHv5becU/video.html
I actually always do this. But I bring Cuculus as well.
They definitely have the same AI (unlike some npcs) but the real one must have like 30% more hp or something because I have to Intervene or my phantom dies.
That final one though, they just..bonked each other twice. Perfection.
Leeroy staring us down at the end tho
Seeing crestfallen beat his hollow made me happy
And with Style too. Parry god Crestfallen.
"I may be Crestfallen, but I'm not defenseless you rascal! You will soon regret this!"
@@CallMeMimi27"Now thats just embarrasing. How'd you let me to that to you?"
@@Anakin_SkywaIkerI get ptsd from that line because I fucked around in my 1st playthrough and found out
@@adan1221 same. i was a sorcerer but i didnt read my little sign on the floor so had no idea how to use it. he taught me how to parry tho and im ever grateful for that
The paladin leroy fight reminds me of two goats fighting each others xDD
Absolutely Leroy Jenkins meme :v
@@yuritrasimaco5201:vvv
I'm always overwhelmingly happy to see Laurentius succeed in one of these. He's a nice guy, he deserves every win.
Before NG+ I always use the dark hand to get as much humanity as possible, and I always leave Laurentius alone. He really feels like a friend to the Chosen Undead, moreso than any other character
yes, laurentius is best boy, i really feel like he cares for you
@@scalycoronet5198 I took all his humanity and aggroed him, but it made me sad so I went and resolved my sins so he wouldn't be aggro
@@scalycoronet5198 lmao i never meet this shit in my game because i never go to sewers always use master key
@@eloelo6944 I go Burg > Parish > Depths to get Laurentius and the Ember, then I go Firelink > New Loneo > Valley of the Drakes > Blighttown to ring the other bell, then I either kill Ingward or go after the Lordvessel, depending on when I want that next ember
crestfallen warrior parry's are on point
Like some real player PvP lol
Never missed once! :)
When you lose to your mad version but then you come back GROSSLY INCANDESCENT
Solaire's fate in this game makes me so sad.
Im glad I got to see his better version kick his own crazy ass
He's strongest when fighting for others
@@bwood6337 same here lol
@@bwood6337 Wow, that kind of hits hard. Good Guy Solaire.
Every time I see a comment about solaire, I feel worse for killing him
He found his sun, what's the issue.
I was beyond dissapointed with Griggs for throwing
Griggs came so far just to die by inaction. Sounds like his career as a sorcerer tbh
@@thefreebooter8816 student to one of the most powerful sorcerers in the land and the best thing he can come up with is soul peashooter and using a fucking dagger an a broken shield.
if theres anyone who deserves going hollow is griggs.
Griggs had that in the bag, and then just went naaaah.
The Crestfallen Warrior beat his inner despair. Nice.
"This is cruel, forcing me to look at an old mirror. There really was such a man once."
Griggs Emiya Probably before getting stabbed by hollow griggs.
Mad respect for that reference
Emiya?
@@Ayahuasca98 where was it from? It seems so familiar
@@asayai fate/stay night
@@Ayahuasca98 Lol thank you. Perks of being a huge fate nerd you remember random scenes.
4:52 Hollowed Laurentius is so far gone, he goes to use his axe for pyromancies. Maybe he found Quelana who showed him some fire sorcery and he mistook his axe for a catalyst in his madness...?
He simply realized that the most powerful pyromancy is hitting people with a weapon
...I remembered that Laurentius can't find Quelana cuz she have the spell which made everyone who don't have an upto lv10 Pyromancy Flame cannot seen her and...maybe he doesn't have it:))
I think she used undead rapport on him
@@Fibblethip nah, I don't think so. Creatures which was been reincarnated by Undead Rapport only attack who the user thinks that they are enemies. And if you know, the lasting time of skill are also applies to NPCs too:))
@@tempestkana6506 I’m going to elaborate on what I said, I think that laurentius goes to find quelana after we (he and the chosen undead) obtain equal talent in n puromancy from him. Eventually he does find her, and I think he catches her off guard when she isn’t invisible and she uses undead rapport on him. I believe that rapport basically turns the target into a complacent slave that does whatever you want for the duration of the spell and that they only attack baddies for gameplay reasons. When she used rapport I think she had him forget he ever saw her and then went invisible. By the time the spell wore off I think laurentius kept looking and eventually went hollow in his searching and that’s how we find him. I do like the fire sorcery theory though, it suggests that hollows do have some semblance of memory of what happened when they were human. But that begs the question: which came first fire or soul sorcery?
Vince of Thorolund: "I'll lose to anyone, even me!"
Nico of Thorolund: Who?
Griggs: (Choking noises)
Logan: "I may have killed me, but at least I killed myself back!"
Crestfallen Warrior: (parry sound) "Oh dear, how could you let THAT happen?"
Laurentius: "Stay safe, friend, and don't you dare go Hollow."
Solaire: "A Sun may make you stronger, but it won't make you better." (Fixed typo)
Mildred: "Maybe being on the good side isn't so bad... At least I get some spicy spider meat!"
Leeroy: (Mutual THUD noise)
The Crestfallen is a clear example of how being hollow affects the ability of parry!
Cringe
The mutual thud noise is the best part
Leeroy: Both at same time: LEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOY JEEEEEEENN- *dies*
This was the most accurate comment I've seen
It's so satisfying to watch NPCs parry other NPCs
Hey hey! Love your videos man!
solaire fight was poetic
being alone made the fight greatly unfair, he couldnt make a dent at his madness.
but being together (being summoned) gives him the strenght to overcome his weakness
(And also because he's supposed to be summoned in the two toughest (without dlc) boss fights, and it makes sense he becomes stronger when embracing the light of madness)
Such is the might of jolly cooperation
Did anyone else notice the second guy from Rhea's group was misnamed Crestfallen Warrior?
Justice for Nico
I was actually looking to see if someone pointed this out in the comments.
Hear Hear.
I was very confused about why the Crestfallen Warrior looked like that.
Yes.
Leeroy fight went exactly like every strenght build goes in this game, and the way he look at the camera at the end as if saying "what did you expect?"
4:54 he tried to cast piromancy with his axe? What?
It happens
How can you make that happen ? I'm really curious since R1/R2 would be axe attack
@@alexidu25 I think I've done it before on a mage build. Like maybe if I tried swapping between my melee weapon and my catalyst somehow the catalyst casting animation would activate while my melee weapon was still in my hand. Maybe i'm remembering that wrong though.
@@Knight_Of_Eleum_Loyce yes it's a glitch
He's crazy! Leave him be! That's why humanity rocks!
Laurentius and Leeroy were really in sync with they mirrors
Griggs performed so well but then just threw the fight
goes for both sides.
My bro Solaire is at his best when he's being a bro
The way Solaire looked at the player for approval after he won... This video has so many cool moments
2:58 that loss fucking hurt. One more hit… he was wide open…
I mean technically you skipped Rhea, who has a living version and the hollow version from the Archive Tower, but given that Hollow Rhea only punches and hits like a whoopee cushion tied to a kitten, and Living Rhea has no self-preservation instinct at all, it'd probably be a very long, boring 'fight'.
Like that sakura vs ino bs
@@mark0183 No, even that's a far harder fight. They don't hit like wet noodles like Rhea.
I kinda wanna see it.
I can just imagine rhea running for her life while hollow rhea desperately trying to punch her to death
@@pokimanefartcompilation Maybe she could try emulating Mushroom Kid
The Logan fight was actually sick though
I like bonk competition between Leeroys
Solaire's revenge:
Epic coreography with mixed animations from all his arsenal and great timing
Leeroy:
BONK
THUD
*proceed to fade out of existance
Leeroy:
*Stares blankly into the camera
"Ay can I get that cookie now?"
Leeroy looking at the camera at the end: "Are we done now, can I go home?"
If I was feeling particularly philosophical I would say this is symbolic of the internal struggle that goes on every day in an undeads mind, but I’m not so I’ll just sit here and w00t at the pixel men fighting for my amusement.
I'm sad, I thought I would see another video with Petrus losing to something.
Sadly petrus never goes hollow or crazy.
If Petrus had a mirror match, then that would mean one Petrus would have to win. And we all know Petrus can’t win against anything, even himself.
@@weskerrun9420 what happens when a stoppable force meets a movable object?
Leeroys fight was like showing that he was stronger when he had faith in his cause.
6:50 Perfectly symmetrical violence at it's best.
I love how he's just looking towards the camera.
@@nuclearsimian3281 "you're next"
It's interesting to see the damage differences on some of these when they are supposed to be the same character
One note Mad Logan has higher damage cause of his crystal sorceries though
Leeeroy!!! *trades bops*
Jenkinnnnns! *trades bops*
*invader dies*
*Leeroy looks over like "wassup".*
Hilarious finish.
Vince of Thorolund truly loses against anything even himself, but that self wasn't exactly the same as Vince , hence that one actually having the ability to win
You're thinking of Petrus. Vince and Nico are the competent ones.
@@watchfulwanderer6443 oh God you're right
I apllied for this, but appearantly bringing phantoms doesn't turn you into a different person.
Heh.
Request Corvians Vs Man Serpents
You are very dedicated
Battle of most bullshit enemies in the game.
3:47 He might be crestfallen, but he's still a warrior at heart.
This is basically what happens on the mind of an Undead close to becoming a hollow, they fight with the Hollowed version of themselves... and if they end up losing....
losing*
Logan’s went exactly how I expected
Conclusion: hollowed and mad versions of NPCs are more aggressive but more impulsive. They also can seem more powerful due to this, but that isn't the case. They simply are more likely to attack. DS1 invader NPCs are also useless
Love that the Sekiro sounds have become a recurring theme in your videos ❤️
Solaire's guardbreak into a stab has got to be one of the smoothest things ever
Finally, I can see solaire face....
You may have forgotten our old friend Shiva. Him in covenant forest vs blighttown with chaos infusion.
Love that little music you do when ever someone is next, you should keep doing that!
Ah yes, my favorite junior cleric from Thorolund: Crestfallen Warrior
Solaire shield-breaking then stabbing his maddened self is an Anime-Worthy scene.
Npc1: "Who are you?"
Npc2: "I'm you!"
Npc1: ...
Npc2: ...
Npc1: "That's it?"
Npc2: "Excuse me, What did you expect?"
You know... There's just something poetic about these fights.
Vince and Nico both succumbed to the undead curse, and such they both get defeated by their hollow counterparts.
Griggs also became a hollow, in pursuit of pursuing the knowledge of his master, Logan. But he didn't need to be, he could've remained unhollow, but as in the fight, he left it open for it to destroy him, and thus the curse won.
Big Hat Logan went mad with the knowledge of seathe, and it destroyed him completely. Fittingly, in his fight, he could have won over his madness, but his madness took him down with it. In the end, neither he or his madness won.
The next three are unique to me.
The Crestfallen warrior is interesting. Yes, he hollows, but throughout the game, despite his pessimism, his nihilism, and his doubts, he still wanted to live, and still retained the skills to prove it. He was a man driven by fear and despair, but if backed into a corner, he was willing to fight to the death. And I suppose, that sort of drive trumps the curse of hollowing. But that depends on your choice to abandon him, or be with him.
Laurentius is a similar story. Yes he can hollow, but like the crestfallen warrior, it depends on your choice. Only in this instance, Laurentius found a friend in you, someone who he could share pyromancy with, someone who he could care about. And that kind of friendship is what continues to give him purpose to defeat the hollowing curse. For as long as you keep him away from his ambition, he will never hollow.
Similar thing for Solaire too. He is your friend, and an ambitious one too. And ultimately, your choices can decide whether he succumbs to hollowing/madness, should you abandon him to his short-sighted whims, or protect him from ambition, as you can with Laurentius and Crestfallen. It's with your friendship, he can overcome the madness/hollowing.
And Mildred? ... well... Mildred as a summon is more stronger than as an invader because this was the most generous thing Fromsoft has ever done for anyone in any of their games.
Leeroy Looking at us like, "guys did you see that"
Never realized how loud clerics fighting each other must be with all those force miracles
Bonfire knows that if the definitive victory were for mad Solaire we were gonna be the mad ones
The detail of big hat logan going mad not hollow. Love this channel
Damn, I didn't know the crestfallen warrior came from thorolund
I love that both Leeroys just got to bonking.
Paladin Leroy was hilarious. After the summon wins he looks right at u like wtf
Griggs! You had one job! ONE! JOB!
Really felt like crestfallen completed a character arc there..
Alive: "hhhmmm, undead?"
Hollow: nah fool, UNBEATABLE
4:48 okay this was actually a badass comeback
It really was. Sometimes I forget that the Combustion pyromancies actually have decent range (for close quarters combat). It's why it's a great tool for shield-breaking enemies and other players (if they're turtling).
6:49
They literally did a: "ok let's do this LEROOOOY JENKINS"
Leeroy made me chuckle.
Just remember. If you have your shield up than remember to lower it once the enemy attacks
when solaire chose jolly cooperation he won
IT'S SNORES, IT'S NOISY... AND IT'S BREATH IS LETHAL!
Logan's fight was the most epic encounter of all NPC's battles
Regular Solaire vs. Mad Solaire... Mad Solaire has the advantage of having had the whole journey behind him. Regular hadn't even set foot past the Hellkite Drake yet.
And then Summoned Solaire has been all the way to the Kiln, therefore having the advantage over both Regular and Mad solaire.
Leeroys insync attacks was the best part.
Old Logan is too powerful to fight himself.
Leeroy's fight was the funniest. Bonk, bonk, death. XD
Bro summoned solaire puts in work damn.
crestfallen warrior out here fighting like he's fighting gwyn
Bro Logan straight zero-summed himself 😆
Griggs deadass choked at the end
5:58 Fact: 3 guy just sad on the same time
Logan: I shall drag you with me to the depths of Hell
Summoned sun bro is so strong he laugh at the mad slair
Leeroy really lived up to his name
Am I the only person to notice that Nico's health bars say "crestfallen warrior"?
No, I saw that too. It was distracting.
When hollow Laurentius tried to cast using the axe lol
6:51
the epic dramatic music that builds it up
and
***Donk***
It's strange to see how much more powerful the summons are than the invaders. In Bloodborne for example, the summons are considerably weaker than the hostile NPCs (there aren't really NPC invaders in Bloodborne in the same way as DSR, and DS3.)
Bloodborne has the worst npc summon of all series,just valtr is actually good,the best one in summon is DS2
@@braziliancreator7015 Damien Is very good too
@@bondrewd5935 yeah,but valtr is the best
@@bondrewd5935 I would see he as decent
Logan is such a glass cannon it ended in a draw.
That Laurentius fight!
This is like those anime episodes where the hero has to fight their evil selves or whatnot
2:53 bro ran out of stamina
finally, my man crestfallen warrior gets a win
Now, now, perfectly symmetrical violence never solved anything.
when it's nico vs nico hollow, it says crestfallen warrior
That Leeroy one was my favorite
Paladin Leroy fight went exactly like how Moon Knight fights Task Master.
Maaaan Griggs made such an effort! That was probably the best fight... besides the Big Hat Logan duel.
Crestfallen warrior have the potential to beat Gwyn with those parrying skills he display
I like to think Summon Solaire is when he starts trying
Hollow Griggs made me lol . Everyone else's hollow looks like a dead version of themselves, but Griggs just looks like he put on way too much black eyeliner....like he's really into bands like Bullet for My Valentine and has stopped taking showers daily .