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Wendy's says the square burgers are the key to their success because they don't cut corners. The CEO said that once. lol
They originally did it to fit more patties on their grill.
the principal didn't lose pension. he just lost his severance pay. teachers usually get a lot of pension after retirement. he's still 60? so he needs to use his savings for 5 yrs or work another job until he gets pension. a lot of workers in small companies don't get any extra pay when they retire. yes, he lost a lot of money, but he just lost a part of his previleges which other people would never had.
It wasn't like he was doing it for his entire life. They should have given him the chance to pay back that 500 yen and just give him a warning. Completely losing the pension sounds like they just want to save some money.
This is the crazy part though. It's not like the school owns the pension. The pension would have been saved or invested by a third party institution or something of that sorts. So it's not like the school or any body involved would directly benefit in his pension.
Especially when you look at serious crimes going unpunished... Like wtf
He's not alone, they literally ruin lives over there disproportionately for what we consider small misdemeanors, it must lead to so much suffering.
@@KerenWang It's a mistranslation or misunderstanding. They took away his 退職金 (taishoku kin), which is like severance pay or redundancy package, a chunk of money the employer rewards you with at the end of your contract, provided certain criteria are met. Low-effort copy paste news outlets picked up the pension mistranslation and it snowballed from there.
The guy's name is 藤田晋一 if you want to look up sources. They also quote him as doing this repeatedly and intentionally, and the school board noting that this conduct is not suitable for a public servant in education. A school principal is held to a high standard and the school wants to save a bunch of its own cash.
Sweethearts and Sweet Tarts are two different candies. We have something called 'conversation hearts' here around valentine's day, with little messages printed on them. These are the sweethearts or love hearts we have, in little pink boxes.
Came here to say this
Pete was definitely talking about Sweet Tarts and not Sweethearts though, because he was excited about eating them. Sweethearts taste like someone coughed and blew a few grains of sugar onto a pile of chalk.
Guys, do a follow up with the coffee story that looks at Japanese online comments with regard to the story. I want to know what the Japanese think about this.
People were really mixed on this subject but most Japanese commentors thought that he deserved it and in general was an idiot for even taking such a big risk to gain so little. But there were also many who thought that the punishment was too severe given the crime that was committed.
The Japanese have no opinion outside of what the acceoted TV version of events is@@reinron
We have sweathearts in the US. Or atleast something very similar. But its only sold for valentines day. They have short messages like 'i love you' or 'hugs'.
However they are nasty, they taste like chalk. There is also a sour version that tastes like sour chalk.😂😂
Hello from Kuwait 😂 Just wanna say offense not taken and never expected I hear Kuwait mentioned in your podcast! I was in London last month and walked across the shop you mentioned. It looks like something a Kuwaiti would own LOL.
Kuwait bros unite! 💪🏿
Japan will do this kind of extreme punishments on some measly coffe theft and will give 3 months of house arrest if the same old man touched a kid..... Just mental
Yep insane
Objectively speaking, It'll cause less damage than someone legally buying a gun and going to town in said school. Which you can fairly easily do in a certain country.
Sure, the person gets a more severe punishment but the damage to society is much bigger and multiple people may lose lives.
Definitely a weird punishment to do with the coffee theft, but every country has messed up stuff going on so singling out Japan as being an outlier in weird laws is hypocritical at best.
@@LukasVokrinek It's not "singling out japan". The video is about Japan so we talk about Japan. There are more than enough channels and videos where ypu can discuss american gun control.
I am embarrassed to say it took me way to long to realize Pete was not saying "Q8"
Me too, had to listen to the podcast twice ! 😂
they are related in a way. the Q8 or (Kuwait Petroleum International) is a Kuwait oil company.
But i did also make the mistake at first but realised during Petes story telling that it's just one of those tiny shops with one staff member and a sun bleached picture of a fruit jelly they might sell.
Karaoke room D&D sounds great
Congrats on finally hitting 3 million subs. Very much deserved.
The thing you'd have to shout while busting in the karaoke place with the D&D people would be something like - Roll me a charisma check!
In which you'd roll a 1, and everyone would real life beat yo ass. xD
As for the school principal case... my guess is that they are hiding something there. I dunno what it is, it could go both ways, but it's not about the coffee.
Let me elaborate a bit for those who don't mind reading long comments. I read about the case on the Asahi Shimbun piece.
Ok, so, nothing about this story makes sense. Firing a principal and taking his pension away because of such a small crime is sure to cost far more to the school rather than just reprimanding him. Because obviously, that principal will have to be replaced. If the guy did his job well so far, applying such a harsh penalty on a misdemeanor, I'd see as a crime myself - that's abuse of power.
Just to be clear, I know that Japanese law is different and perhaps there isn't a concept of misdemeanor there, but the equivalent of it - a minor crime, etc.
But the more likely case considering Japanese culture is that there is something behind this story that the school, school board, principal and people involved are not willing to share.
Now, what it actually is can go both ways. Could be a crime far bigger that the school is hiding to save face, could be some power struggle involving someone who wants to take the principal position, could be something else entirely. It's naive to think it's to set an example, even if they are saying this is what it is.
Look, I don't see anyone on the Kishida faction committing seppuku for the fundraiser scandal, right? It's not like corruption doesn't exist in Japan, contrary to what some might think. Corruption in Japan is everywhere, in politics, in representative positions, in leadership positions - it's everywhere.
But there's also a widespread "saving face" culture in Japan that tends to resort to that sort of thing - things getting hidden away with harsh punishment handed so that one side saves face, and the other pay his/her dues.
This is often how scandals gets suppressed and some form of justice gets done in Japan. There has been all sorts of major problems in Japanese schools that have been dealt with this way - sexual abuse cases, power harassment cases, financial fraud cases, a bunch of others. It's just that when it involves a school, there is often a priority in not letting the institution be tarnished by the crime of an employee, or in this case, the principal himself.
Again, this is ONE of the possibilities.
The other is a conspiracy by the prefecture school board itself, who decided on his penalty. Kinda obvious, but in cases like these the school board has liberty to apply different levels of sanctions depending on what the problem is. What this principal got was basically the worst possible sanction. They are citing past cases that resulted in similar penalties, but it just does not make sense. Perhaps the school board was already in talks to replace the principal, they had some grudge with the guy, or something similar to that. So they just used the thing as an excuse to punish the guy.
Now, like I already kinda mentioned - if this is about setting an example to students and saying the guy needs to be a perfect little robot in the height of puritanical and moralist stance, which also does exist in Japan - I think this is not only stupid, but also criminal. It's power harassment, abuse of power. You can't just ignore who knows how many decades of work this principal had to punish him in this manner for a misdemeanor that doesn't even involve the school itself. This is more than obviously a case for reprimand at most.
As a tool for teaching, this only teaches bullying, puritanical and moralist crap, authoritarianism, and using the system to run over the rights of people if they commit even the smallest of mistakes. As Chris already put this well, this is Japan, not North Korea. And as I already pointed out, what is the lesson here if when a school principal commits a misdemeanor he gets his life ruined for it, while politicians involved in a huge corruption scandal taking millions from fundraisers and becoming millionaires by fooling people not only are not in jail for it, they are still keeping their positions despite all that? And notice, the corruption scandal has been going on for half a decade or more.
It's like, who are you trying to fool there? Nah dude, there's likely to be more on this story. That's what it is.
Am I the only one now imagining Chris forcing Connor to sleep in karaoke bars instead of a hotel on their next Wacky Weekend (of course the next day he needs to Joey to one of the country's top royans to rub it in).
Sitting here painting miniatures while listening and then Pete starts talking about Citadel. You should try again Pete, I'm happy to give you a couple suggestions ahah 😄
Woah, definitely didn't expect to run into another WH fan on the abroad channel. Just finished painting my Mortarion mini a bit ago and it was a pain in the ass lol. Luck to your future painting endeavors.
Praise be the Emperor
I hope you enjoy Philadelphia next week Peet! I haven’t been in a while but I’m nearby that city and I can reccomend the Redding terminal market for food food but it’s a lot of booths of diffeent restaurants. Great way to try to variety of food and support local businesses! Been a few years since I was there last but I enjoyed it. I have a lot of memories going there as a kid. Such good food. I swear it’s near where the convention center is if my memory serves me right.
Also I would go to a grocery store to get candy and not a candy store since purely candy stores tend to get more expensive. But yeah enjoy the beauty of Pennsylvania!
Maybe even walk by Independence Hall and see the Liberty bell from the window outside since there is like no point to go into the museum if you just want to see it
Been there before and I concur.
The stories about the consequences of drug taking is also terrible to hear, they literally ruin lives over there for relatively small breaches like stealing some coffee, it's no doubt causing all kinds of unforeseen nasty consequences because every action has countless consequences, if it's not a proportional re-action, it's not just or good for society.
Wooo new episode
Still waiting and hoping for the full version of the closing music!
Agreed! Need more!
Yep thats a wombat. It poops cubes
2:40 We have them they're called Sweethearts by Brach's.
Sweet Tarts makes hearts during the holidays. So does everyone else. It's fun!
When I first tried Tsukemen on my Japan trip last year, it was one of my favourite meals. I have tried to recreate it over the last year and I think I have finally reached a point where I am happy with my recreation!
About the Tsukemen, I love having it cold. Cold noodles with a warm/hot broth is perfect! In fact, it's my favourite food in all of Japan (I had it in Kichijoji)
Those lollies you’re talking about have been around in Australia since I was a kid and I’m now 65. I loved them as a kid but haven’t had any for years..
Sitting here painting Citadel miniatures while listening to this podcast, was rather surprising lol
“u can” is definitely a love message these days. as in permission. 👀 eh-hem. & we have love hearts in canada. or we did. but i haven’t gone looking for them lately. maybe that’s what i’ve done wrong… 🤔💕💝
We have Love Hearts in Norway 🇳🇴
I took a year or two to get used to Hershey's chocolate after moving to the US. Now it's my favorite kind. At first it was like expecting a donut when you eat a bagel. I just had to expect a bagel, and bagels are awesome.
Chris, your cat must be a fur ball 😂 so squeezed their slender frame through the slightest of gaps haha 😂
Sal I. Vate is my Sicilian uncle on my mother's side. Great guy.
Wendy's burgers are square because you can fit more of them on a grill than round burgers. It's purely an efficiency hack, to help keep the grill from being the limiting factor during a lunch or dinner rush.
(Dave Thomas, founder of Wendy's, wrote about this in his biography.)
american chocolate sold by hersheys is made with milk that is treated to sour it because it makes the chocolate stay solid longer when subjected to heat. so unfortunately that is the most popular type of chocolate
About the coffee thing, How does public pension work in Japan? Cause in most developed countries employees with government pensions will pay part of their own pension and the employer (the government) will pay the other part. Then normally they could deny the government part, but they would still have to pay you the part that came from you, or else they are basically stealing your money. Also I hope that the principal will hire a lawyer cause the punisher is way too big for the crime, you don't destroy someone's life for like 3$ theft, they could have assigned him to do community work and maybe little seminar on why you should not do petty theft.
A long long time ago, I use to play D & D with my brother and one of the table top rpgs we played was a Ninja turtle base game.
Q T = Quick Trip ' is a convince store in this area (Nebraska . USA) has a wide array of candy
I had a similar problem but with cat food. Got to love love heart sweets and any sherbet base, and especially sherbet lemon
laughing way too hard at "napsuki"
Pete’s following around pensioners idea was terrifying lmao.
We have the pressed sugar chalk heart shaped candies in in the U.S with such messages as be mine and your cute ect.
If Personable Pete is poppin' into Philly, he has to try John's Roast Pork. Best cheese steak in town. If you're feeling fancy stop by Barclay Prime but just know that it's an experience not a cheese steak. Helluva Old Fashioned too!
Best cheesesteak in Philly is Dallesandro's.
The way Natsuki says "wow" reminds me of how big cats say hello "Waaoo!"
There are love hearts in the US during Valentine's day they are called Sweet Hearts
Man kinda insane losing pension over that, it is way above the top for that. Probably no one sat and saw a weeks footage of how many did that, there'd be a lot more than just that 1 guy for sure...
Other people have mentioned Sweethearts. Which have a long history, going back to 1866. Considering that I’m surprised that Love Hearts, which started making them in 1954, were allowed to do so.
Good grief, for a coffee faux pas, they lose their pension. Talk about over-reacting! If they repaid the difference this could have been avoid. Instead, they were treated like terrorists and bank robbers.
Right, Kids we are moving to Kuwait to open a sweet shop so Mary-joe and Billy-bob pack up your shit. I have been working my ass off working at the supermarket here in Montana and it's time for the Kuwaiti dream to begin.
Montana? Is that a country?
We have candy hearts with messages on them. We buy them for Valentine’s Day. They taste like chalk lol
I love the Q 80's
1:24 i thiigh nothing of the cotton all on the terth until i was thinking about it and got shivers up my spine from just the imaginary juxtaposition
6:52 Good, as it's not safe for human consumption. When those shops were raided, a lot of the sweets were out of date or had illegal chemicals in them.
Enjoying the banter. To the officials who decided to severely penalize the school principal I say “those without guilt caste the first stone” 🤨
25:51 yes
It was a matter of "principal" :)
As an expat in the US I have never acquired the taste for Hershey's, to me it tastes like vomit. Cadbury's for the win any day...
Awesome job chris with the podcast drop a like
at least watch the pod first
Richard Madeley is turning more into Alan Partridge every single day.
Seems a bit extreme to take that amount of pension away just for a little bit of coffee, i bet thats the sale price calculated too and not the cost price.
This has not been handled by proportions at all!
I understand this is based on values from like the 1500's, but it really, really HAS to change.
They better over rule revoking that mans pension.
That's beyond absurd.
In America, we don't call the shape "love heart," just "heart," and neither do we call the candy that either, but we do have it.
speaking of burgers what are your assessments of mos burger in Japan?
We used to have Sweet hearts in Canada. We may still have, I don't have much of a sweet tooth anymore.
What's next? A Netflix series about the Coffee Case... THE MAN WHO STOLE COFFEE, a greedy criminal who couldn't get enough of just one small coffee and wanted to take over the world and lost everything...
I swear I heard that coffee story before o.0
I recently found out that Japanese weapon laws are so restrictive, it's almost impossible to get steel fencing equipment and simulators for modern HEMA, Kenjutsu, etc.. Even steel feders (big bendy things) are forbidden. Ironically, shinai for Kendo hurt a lot worse than a feder.
Now we know where that old Japanese saying, "Gaijin; Duck!" comes from :)
Slightly related to the karaoke room question, there was a video done by another channel called the Japan reporter, that detailed his experience in working at an internet cafe….
He noted people would rent out rooms at an internet cafe and have sex in them, especially on Valentine’s Day.
America might be a capitalist wasteland but at least most of our major companies offer free coffee to employees.
Man, this is what we mean by saying there is no "greyzone" in Japan. When there is no black and white answer, it's a blank stare. Really weird considering this is the country of haiku's and reading between the lines of what's respectful and what's not. I mean, let him pay for the coffee, could've been an honest mistake. I mean, how many foreigners can't read the coffee machine and don't even know the difference of the price?!
This is not the case when you learn the details of the incident.
He committed a similar act a second time at the store where he was caught and four times at another store, and was marked and caught because he repeated the act.
The school's teachers' committee rules originally stipulated that repeated acts of theft would result in "dismissal".
And what's more, he is a school principal, right? If it had happened once, it wouldn't have been so serious.
By the way, do you know the 7-Eleven coffee system?
You buy the size cup you want in advance, and then just push the size button directly on the machine.
Can't you read? Then there is no way you can buy a cup. If you're choosing a cup, it should recognize the letters and the size by "coffee" and "S/M/L."
Just operate the machine and press one of "S/M/L". The clerk can see what you pressed.
Please don't make excuses. It's not Japanese, it's English, and it's an almost universal unit.
@@noxnox7445 I've never used the 7/11 coffee machine, but thank you for the explanation. If it's a more than once occurrence, okay, yeah maybe deserved. But in a fair trial with evidence and a just sentencing that matches the crime.
@@lifeontherally The convenience store's security cameras, cash registers, and machine operation records are all on file.
He was arrested by the police, but he confessed to the crime, and it was a minor one, and the case was dropped (suspended) and ended without even going to trial.
Apart from that, the severance pay is in line with the rules originally set by the school's board of education, and it is for the act, not the amount, whether he stole expensive or inexpensive items, and he was only dismissed on disciplinary grounds and will not receive severance pay.
This is controversial news, but it is even more sad that the western media sensationalizes and omits stories from the Japanese news and creates further misunderstandings among foreigners who pass it on🥲
This is hilariously "Ironic". As I will never pass up a free Refill of Coffee & Tea/Iced !.....I left my Wallet at my favorite "Indi-Coffee & Tea House" here in Woodland, CA this morning ( MORGAN'S MILL ) & I made certain to get that 3rd refill for free when I went back to retrieve my Wallet !
Chris shoulda try the Cyberpunk TRPG
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That sounds like cruel and unusual punishment. In the States we have certain rights which are ensrhined in our constitution as they are natural rights. Taken those rights away is wrong.
Openly carrying swords is legal here in Vancouver, as long as its openly carried/visible and not concealed in any way then yes its fine. Cops might still stop you and asks questions like why you're carrying that, just answer its a fashion accessory and you'll be fine.
Norway: We've had Love Hearts for ages.
The US does have a version of Love Hearts and they are terrible, but one know WHY they keep selling them every Valentins Day
Generally speaking, some of the things that sticks the most with my peabrain: The first and last things mentiones.
Pete's hands smell like dog food. Gotcha.
Maybe the store should pay an employee to serve coffee and then people wouldn't be able to steal 50 cents of coffee.
I totally swear by tsukemen (dipping ramen). Once you go tsukemen, you just don't go back to regular ramen anymore.
I like a good tsukemen, but there are so many kinds of ramen it doesn't work for or exist for. But if I'm going to eschew the actual soup I prefer mazesoba or aburasoba.
Pete, you gotta get a bag of SweetTarts JELLYBEANS. They are incredible.
We have love hearts. We just call them something different. And they taste like chalk.
4:13 yeah they put the chemical that's in sick in our chocolate. I get imported chocolate. 😂
"Cats do not abide by the laws of nature."
-Charlie Kelly
Wendy has square burgers because 'they don't cut corners'
ramen, tsukemen, boku ha ikemen!
hersheys chocolate is not real chocolate lol. we do have other chocolates in america. some premium brands. they taste better
Hershey is fine. They're just being babies.
I've tried the "premium" chocolates and 95% of them are overpriced nonsense and barely taste better than the major brands.
Hersheys is garbage, Ghirardelli is good(they are owned by Lindt now). I think pretty much every chocolate maker in the US is better than Hersheys.
how legally can doing a crime affect your other stuff. like you dont lose social security cause you stole a tv. you might have your social security taken to pay for the tv but like it doesnt stop.
Poor guy got treated worse than Stalin and Hitler!
They really need to take a step back. Everyone can do wrong.
Japan, the place where homeless and hopeless youth is a growing problem, people (redacted due to CZcams censorship) after being overworked, but at least they annihilated that $1 coffee thief. Seems like the wrong thing to take from that saying "it's the little things in life."
It could be worse, you could have cat food on your hands.😊
SHHHOOGGUUNNN
Hershey’s chocolate tastes the way it does due to WWII. In order for GI’s to be able to get chocolate worldwide (from the Arctic to the South Pacific), Hershey had to add all sorts of shit to make that possible, which gave it a…distinctive taste, which the GI’s grew to love. Once they came home, they wanted that beloved Hershey’s taste. So Chris, just because you ate a certain thing “from America”, when you were 9, from 1 company, stop acting like that is “American chocolate.”
hmmm,... in Japan the majority of theft is done by the LDP,... they don't like any competition ...
This honestly can't be the full story. I simply can't believe it lol wowww...
If that's all he's ever done wrong in his entire life and I had the money, I'd totally make it a point to give him the $135,000 and make it super public.
That's a worse theft, invalidating a lifetime of work and service. In the land of parables and haikus, haven't they ever heard that "two wrongs don't make a right"
Like the video! let's make Chris more famous than he is comfortable with!
Americans do have love hearts, super chalky things.
We have "love hearts" in America. Their chalky, awful and shaped like actual hearts unlike Pete's discs there lol
On the subject of having to go to a karaoke place in order to make some noise, I'm engaged to a wonderful Japanese woman and it was when we stayed at our first hotel that it because very clear to me that while it wasn't a budget hotel the walls were still paper thin. My lady was afraid that if we made any noise that instead of the staff calling us due to a noise complaint they would instead just call the cops. I asked her what couples were supposed to do and she said go to a love hotel, because apparently only love hotels know what sound dampening is. It's wild to me if you want to make any noise in Japan you're going to have to pay someone for the privilege. Since then I have managed to find better hotel rooms but I normally end up having booking the nicest hotel in the area. I'm baffled that at some point Japan didn't start designing buildings and homes with more sound dampening, but Japan is going to Japan.
Who tells Pete, that you can wash your hands?
mmm tastes like red dye 40.
Meanwhile, in America, the day before I left for my trip to Japan, I was getting stuff from a convenience store in Atlanta, Georgia, and two teens grabbed random stuff off the shelves and hopped in their car and drove away without paying as the convenient store owner yelled at them on the way out. The Japanese legal system seems so pure by comparison.
Pete you are right, wombats do poo in cube form 🇦🇺