I got burned today at locals with the predaplant monster :( I had empen and on his turn he summoned the predaplant fusion monster in defense mode and said that empen was negated. He continued to go off and go for game. This videos are awesome keep updating the rulings it can mean more wins for the birds ! 🦅
Ah so Dragostpalia only negates ACTIVATED effects, idk if it would have affectes much, but Empen's floodgate would still have been live! (Not the attack reducer tho)
Yeah it has a problem with that unfortunately. I've been messing with some differing ratios but I'm trying to find a good balance between having enough consistency boosts and having enough play cards
dont forget that scary sea wont be able to stop summons from spells - like fusions, because you misstime it - the summon happened during resolution of chain, so you cannot activate it, it should still work against link and xyz though
Always a pleasure to review bird law 101. I saw in other comments you mentioned working on an updated decklist! Super excited for that, I think ultimate slayer is going to be super spicy, especially with some of the fossil warriors/generically good sends like garuda/n’tss. How do you feel about extravas? To me it doesn’t feel good and I was wondering what you thought. Please make that Floowandereeze and Floowandereeze and Floowandereeze card a custom field center / card and put it on your shop! I’m sure you’d sell out
I normally main deck drnm but since I was able to pull a playset of slayers (one starlight woohoo) I’m going to try using that instead. Added bonus is that if you open >1 it’s not opt so it doesn’t feel as bad as opening 2 drnm. Which from my experience you either open 2-3 or 0.
@@HenryA5438A My take on Slayer is it's either a) A back up to DRNM, or b) A good targeted counter to something where you only need to out one part of the board (Like vs. Tearalaments if they end of a Dragostaplia). I mean, def give it a shot, I just this for a main deck, DRNM gives you a bit more of a boost going 2nd if you need it, whereas going into G2 and G3, you can swap in Slayer depending on the situation and how specific you need to get. Also Vs. something like Spright or the odd rouge matches, if you need to out Main deck monsters specifically it can be a problem not having the DRNM
I lost a match the other day in real life because I didn't know the Trap into Barrier Statue ruling. I thought my opponent could solemn judgment the Statue. Now I know they can't...Thank you for these ruling videos.
Just to clarfiy, they only cant IF the trap is CL 2 or higher, since they cant solemn midchain, BUT if dreamingtown is CL1, they can, just so you know exactly!
@@keasbeytcg I was in a situation where my opponent did cl1 Dinomorphia trap to Fusion summon, I did cl2 Dreaming town. So...it would apply there. But, when you say cl1 dreaming town, are you saying they can wait for Barrier Statue to summon, then solemn judgment the summon of Statue in a separate chain? Or, can they only solemn the trap card?
So in the Dinomorphia case you described, they COULD Solemn Dreaming Town, but if they didnt then they couldnt Solemn Statue because Statue is being summoned essentially on CL2, and CL1 has to still resolve. From a gamestate where DT is CL1, they could Solemn DT OR Statue, because Statue is summoned after DT resolves, and nothing is left in the chain. Effects like DT with the "After this resolves Summon..." type effects are a bit weird in how they interact, I hope this helped make sense of it
@@keasbeytcg thank you so much. I totally understand now. And Sadly, in the Dinomorphia case, I allowed him to Solemn the Barrier Statue since I thought it was correct. The Statue caught him by surprise. But..I know better now. Thanks again.
Thank you as always Keasbey! I have a problem with the deck brick hands which i get more than often, so i would like if you could give a good ratio of cards for the deck. I play 40 cards deck .
Ahh it's the curse of this deck. I'm going to be doing an updated profile in the future, but if you look at my most recent deck profile, so far as the consistency ratios go, the only change was swapping out Harpist for a 2nd Empen.
Thank you very much for the video, Keasbey. It is great as always :) In addition I have a video request: How to play in a floowandereeze mirror match- especially going second? Would that be something to make a video about? :)
Thank you! And I'm not sure if I'll do a full video on the Mirror, but I can speak towards it a bit here. Going 1st or 2nd, it's a race to "Who can get Unexplored Winds first" and knows how to prevent the opponent's birds from Activating with it haha. Also Quickplay ST removal is king for dealing with Dreaming Town outside of the Main Phase. DD Crow is actually kind of useful at times, as you can potentially disrupt a Stri from resolving as well. DRNM isn't bad either if you can bait out an early Dreaming Town, making them make an early Apex Avian. Evenly Matched isn't too bad, despite the Small Birds almost plus-ing off of it haha, but again, it's good backrow removal, which is really key.
@@keasbeytcg Thank you for the extensive response. In the mirror crow and harpist are some good targets for robina i guess (better as statue, haha). Would you still go for empen as the first tribute-monster or would you prefer apex avian or something else?
@@michak.6736 i'm actually off of Harpist haha. Crow is very niche but yeah, it'll catch a Stri off Guard. Youre probably still going to veer to empen for the search unless you hard opened Dreamtown Town, Map, AND Winds haha, but Apex is a good 2nd search. You REALLY need Winds live for the mirror tho
@@keasbeytcg Thanks, it is really helpful to have kind of a standard-play to do in such situations. And the relevance of winds in the mirror cannot be emphasized enough. I wish you all the best! See you under your next flunder video! :D
Hey buddy!!! Loving the bird work! What’s your opinion about Draco utopian aura the new counter trap? I think it’s made for floowandreeze because it’s second effect of banishing a monster from your hand to steal the monster
Thank you! I actually don't like Aura for a few reasons... - So, counter trap so it is better going first, which, while not bad, isn't realllly what the deck needs so much, it's more getting our plays off the ground that is what we need - The Banish from hand is solid, but the rest of the effect is actually really detrimental, because we can't play on our opps turn because the special summon is mandatory, same for if the card sticks around to our own turn, yeah we can stop a play and get a card, but we can't do any small bird plays due to having special summoned. - It also only interacts with on field monsters, so no stopping hand traps unfortunately, which is a big stopper for us, since we can, under even semi-ideal circumstances, can just Dreaming Town a board face down before our opponent can make a threat! TL:DR, the face that you HAVE to special summon and that it doesn't interact with hand traps makes this card not really viable for the Floos
Just curious, hypothetically you manage to summon snowl more than once, do you get 3 extra summons for every snowl you summon? Because snowl's effects seem to be a soft once per turn
@@Lilac_BS If I'm reading it right, no, because Snowl isn't saying you can summon 3 additional times, it's saying you get 3 summons that turn, so if you summon Snowl, get the 3, then summon Snowl again, you already summoned to given 3 times, if that makes sense
@@keasbeytcg thanks! Another question, is the 3 summons a passive or an activated ability and if it gets removed off the board before I'm able to summon 3 times, can I still use the remaining summons? I'm still new to the game and floos is my first deck and I currently love it!
@@Lilac_BS So, it is an activated ability, but you do need to have Snowl on field even after it resolves, since part of the effect is controling her as a tribute summoned monster. And glad Flo is treating you well! It's a good time for it!
Hey Keasbey! Question about something you mentioned about map around here 11:00 1. So if my opponent normal summoned a monster you're saying that even though they are turn player map would activate as CL1? 2. If so what would happen if they have effects tied to normal summoning like Stratos for example? Would map still be CL1 or CL2? Thanks!
Hey! So... 1) It depends. If their normal summon also has a summon Trigger, Map will be CL2, since turn player's Triggers will always stack first. If they normal summon and don't have a Trigger, map is CL1, keep in mind, Normal Summons DO NOT start a chain on their own 2) In this case, would summon stratos, it would trigger as Cl1 and Map would Trigger as CL2!
Would you think that chain summoning has a place in the deck?, my argument is ch 1 bird, ch2 hand trap ch 3 chain summoning, so I can keep playing after 1 hand trap if I don't have map
I think its a bit situational. For example, if you open Robina, it gets negated, then you Chain Summon, yeah, you have more normals, but unless you have at least eglen, or empen and another small bird, it doesn't really help
The simorg package is more consistent, chain blocks robina and eaglen at the same time, gives you an extra body, an extra normal and makes empen be 1 tribute instead of two which can out zombie world by having the unexplored winds tribute only the zombie world as your one tribute
@@reesejackson5935 you actually can't out ZW w unexplored winds, as is still treats the summons as tribute summons, despite not tributing, and ZW prevents Tribute Summons, not the act of tributing
I am not sure if I heard right but at like 11:14 ish you said something about the map being able to normal any flunder monster which is understood but do you still require the cost to summon say empen would it summon without the need to tribute or would I still need to tribute off the monsters on field because it’s not stated on the card specifically. I think it doesn’t allow you to do it without cost/tributing cards but I might’ve misheard you
Ah yeah, so for the effect of Map the triggers on your opponent normal summoning, you can summon Empen, BUT yes, you would still need to be able to tribute for it as normal
@@keasbeytcg ah ok thanks for the clarification I was just double checking considering it’s never stated specifically but considering it was a normal summon i did think I needed to tribute for it.
This deck is awesome but omg it bricks hard. This deck needs a bit more support as well,probably some more good small birds, just saying. Also if you get imperm and veiler or ashed when trying to set up you lose. It has a lot going for it but it needs more 😜
Tell me about it haha. I've had a lot of success with it, but you just get some dead hands sometimes, or the worst are when you draw the power cards like Shifter and DRNM but no starters haha
Honestly no, I think people complain a lot about those cards, but I don't see them as ban worthy, and I don't think it's what would get hit if Floowander is going to get hit
I got burned today at locals with the predaplant monster :( I had empen and on his turn he summoned the predaplant fusion monster in defense mode and said that empen was negated. He continued to go off and go for game. This videos are awesome keep updating the rulings it can mean more wins for the birds ! 🦅
Ah so Dragostpalia only negates ACTIVATED effects, idk if it would have affectes much, but Empen's floodgate would still have been live! (Not the attack reducer tho)
If anyone aks me to learn Floowandereeze, I would 100% send them this video. Very insightful.
Glad it helps!!
Thanks for the tip with toccan to play around interruption. I didn't think of the chain order that way. 👍
Good video, I have watched all Floo videos since I recently got the deck. The deck is fun but my build tends to brick 2 or 3 times out of 10 hands.
Yeah it has a problem with that unfortunately. I've been messing with some differing ratios but I'm trying to find a good balance between having enough consistency boosts and having enough play cards
For a new Floo player this is so helpfull thank you so much !
dont forget that scary sea wont be able to stop summons from spells - like fusions, because you misstime it - the summon happened during resolution of chain, so you cannot activate it, it should still work against link and xyz though
This channel is a goldmine
These videos are so helpful man. Much appreciated. Little bird up !
Thank you. I am now slightly more knowledgeable of my birds.
Always a pleasure to review bird law 101. I saw in other comments you mentioned working on an updated decklist! Super excited for that, I think ultimate slayer is going to be super spicy, especially with some of the fossil warriors/generically good sends like garuda/n’tss. How do you feel about extravas? To me it doesn’t feel good and I was wondering what you thought. Please make that Floowandereeze and Floowandereeze and Floowandereeze card a custom field center / card and put it on your shop! I’m sure you’d sell out
I'm actually siding Slayer rn! I main the DRNM, but I think Slayer in the side feels good for the Spright Matchup!
And RE: Extrav, I think it's fine if yoy don't have prosperity, or even as a 7th Pot card if you feel you need it!
I normally main deck drnm but since I was able to pull a playset of slayers (one starlight woohoo) I’m going to try using that instead. Added bonus is that if you open >1 it’s not opt so it doesn’t feel as bad as opening 2 drnm. Which from my experience you either open 2-3 or 0.
@@HenryA5438A My take on Slayer is it's either a) A back up to DRNM, or b) A good targeted counter to something where you only need to out one part of the board (Like vs. Tearalaments if they end of a Dragostaplia). I mean, def give it a shot, I just this for a main deck, DRNM gives you a bit more of a boost going 2nd if you need it, whereas going into G2 and G3, you can swap in Slayer depending on the situation and how specific you need to get. Also Vs. something like Spright or the odd rouge matches, if you need to out Main deck monsters specifically it can be a problem not having the DRNM
I lost a match the other day in real life because I didn't know the Trap into Barrier Statue ruling. I thought my opponent could solemn judgment the Statue. Now I know they can't...Thank you for these ruling videos.
Just to clarfiy, they only cant IF the trap is CL 2 or higher, since they cant solemn midchain, BUT if dreamingtown is CL1, they can, just so you know exactly!
@@keasbeytcg I was in a situation where my opponent did cl1 Dinomorphia trap to Fusion summon, I did cl2 Dreaming town. So...it would apply there. But, when you say cl1 dreaming town, are you saying they can wait for Barrier Statue to summon, then solemn judgment the summon of Statue in a separate chain? Or, can they only solemn the trap card?
So in the Dinomorphia case you described, they COULD Solemn Dreaming Town, but if they didnt then they couldnt Solemn Statue because Statue is being summoned essentially on CL2, and CL1 has to still resolve.
From a gamestate where DT is CL1, they could Solemn DT OR Statue, because Statue is summoned after DT resolves, and nothing is left in the chain. Effects like DT with the "After this resolves Summon..." type effects are a bit weird in how they interact, I hope this helped make sense of it
@@keasbeytcg thank you so much. I totally understand now. And Sadly, in the Dinomorphia case, I allowed him to Solemn the Barrier Statue since I thought it was correct. The Statue caught him by surprise. But..I know better now. Thanks again.
Happens to us all! But now you know for next time!
In master duel it force the ns bird as cl1 and the banished bird as cl2
So, the way chains build for sumultainious effects slightly different in OCG and TCG, and if I recall MD uses OCG rules for that, so that may be why!
Floo Empen vs mathmech sigma
Thank you as always Keasbey! I have a problem with the deck brick hands which i get more than often, so i would like if you could give a good ratio of cards for the deck. I play 40 cards deck .
Ahh it's the curse of this deck. I'm going to be doing an updated profile in the future, but if you look at my most recent deck profile, so far as the consistency ratios go, the only change was swapping out Harpist for a 2nd Empen.
Thank you very much for the video, Keasbey. It is great as always :)
In addition I have a video request: How to play in a floowandereeze mirror match- especially going second?
Would that be something to make a video about? :)
Thank you! And I'm not sure if I'll do a full video on the Mirror, but I can speak towards it a bit here. Going 1st or 2nd, it's a race to "Who can get Unexplored Winds first" and knows how to prevent the opponent's birds from Activating with it haha. Also Quickplay ST removal is king for dealing with Dreaming Town outside of the Main Phase. DD Crow is actually kind of useful at times, as you can potentially disrupt a Stri from resolving as well. DRNM isn't bad either if you can bait out an early Dreaming Town, making them make an early Apex Avian. Evenly Matched isn't too bad, despite the Small Birds almost plus-ing off of it haha, but again, it's good backrow removal, which is really key.
@@keasbeytcg Thank you for the extensive response. In the mirror crow and harpist are some good targets for robina i guess (better as statue, haha). Would you still go for empen as the first tribute-monster or would you prefer apex avian or something else?
@@michak.6736 i'm actually off of Harpist haha. Crow is very niche but yeah, it'll catch a Stri off Guard. Youre probably still going to veer to empen for the search unless you hard opened Dreamtown Town, Map, AND Winds haha, but Apex is a good 2nd search. You REALLY need Winds live for the mirror tho
@@keasbeytcg Thanks, it is really helpful to have kind of a standard-play to do in such situations. And the relevance of winds in the mirror cannot be emphasized enough. I wish you all the best! See you under your next flunder video! :D
You should make a floowandereeze playmat with zones.
Maybe in the future, I gotta get through my current run of mats so I can print more haha
@@keasbeytcg haha I ordered one of these before and still use it.
Hey buddy!!! Loving the bird work! What’s your opinion about Draco utopian aura the new counter trap? I think it’s made for floowandreeze because it’s second effect of banishing a monster from your hand to steal the monster
Thank you! I actually don't like Aura for a few reasons...
- So, counter trap so it is better going first, which, while not bad, isn't realllly what the deck needs so much, it's more getting our plays off the ground that is what we need
- The Banish from hand is solid, but the rest of the effect is actually really detrimental, because we can't play on our opps turn because the special summon is mandatory, same for if the card sticks around to our own turn, yeah we can stop a play and get a card, but we can't do any small bird plays due to having special summoned.
- It also only interacts with on field monsters, so no stopping hand traps unfortunately, which is a big stopper for us, since we can, under even semi-ideal circumstances, can just Dreaming Town a board face down before our opponent can make a threat!
TL:DR, the face that you HAVE to special summon and that it doesn't interact with hand traps makes this card not really viable for the Floos
I will say tho, generically, it's a pretty interesting card that I think will find a home eventually
Just curious, hypothetically you manage to summon snowl more than once, do you get 3 extra summons for every snowl you summon? Because snowl's effects seem to be a soft once per turn
@@Lilac_BS If I'm reading it right, no, because Snowl isn't saying you can summon 3 additional times, it's saying you get 3 summons that turn, so if you summon Snowl, get the 3, then summon Snowl again, you already summoned to given 3 times, if that makes sense
@@keasbeytcg thanks! Another question, is the 3 summons a passive or an activated ability and if it gets removed off the board before I'm able to summon 3 times, can I still use the remaining summons? I'm still new to the game and floos is my first deck and I currently love it!
@@Lilac_BS So, it is an activated ability, but you do need to have Snowl on field even after it resolves, since part of the effect is controling her as a tribute summoned monster.
And glad Flo is treating you well! It's a good time for it!
@@keasbeytcg TYSM! You've taught me many cool interactions on the deck that I can utilise in my next locals!
Hey Keasbey! Question about something you mentioned about map around here 11:00
1. So if my opponent normal summoned a monster you're saying that even though they are turn player map would activate as CL1?
2. If so what would happen if they have effects tied to normal summoning like Stratos for example? Would map still be CL1 or CL2?
Thanks!
Hey! So...
1) It depends. If their normal summon also has a summon Trigger, Map will be CL2, since turn player's Triggers will always stack first. If they normal summon and don't have a Trigger, map is CL1, keep in mind, Normal Summons DO NOT start a chain on their own
2) In this case, would summon stratos, it would trigger as Cl1 and Map would Trigger as CL2!
Great video. Any thoughts on bird of perfection
Hey thank you! Personally Im not the biggest fan, mostly for deck space reasons, but it's an option for sure If Ash is a major major concern.
Would you think that chain summoning has a place in the deck?, my argument is ch 1 bird, ch2 hand trap ch 3 chain summoning, so I can keep playing after 1 hand trap if I don't have map
I think its a bit situational. For example, if you open Robina, it gets negated, then you Chain Summon, yeah, you have more normals, but unless you have at least eglen, or empen and another small bird, it doesn't really help
The simorg package is more consistent, chain blocks robina and eaglen at the same time, gives you an extra body, an extra normal and makes empen be 1 tribute instead of two which can out zombie world by having the unexplored winds tribute only the zombie world as your one tribute
@@reesejackson5935 you actually can't out ZW w unexplored winds, as is still treats the summons as tribute summons, despite not tributing, and ZW prevents Tribute Summons, not the act of tributing
@@keasbeytcg ah. True. Still love the simorg package for the rest though
I am not sure if I heard right but at like 11:14 ish you said something about the map being able to normal any flunder monster which is understood but do you still require the cost to summon say empen would it summon without the need to tribute or would I still need to tribute off the monsters on field because it’s not stated on the card specifically. I think it doesn’t allow you to do it without cost/tributing cards but I might’ve misheard you
Ah yeah, so for the effect of Map the triggers on your opponent normal summoning, you can summon Empen, BUT yes, you would still need to be able to tribute for it as normal
@@keasbeytcg ah ok thanks for the clarification I was just double checking considering it’s never stated specifically but considering it was a normal summon i did think I needed to tribute for it.
This deck is awesome but omg it bricks hard. This deck needs a bit more support as well,probably some more good small birds, just saying.
Also if you get imperm and veiler or ashed when trying to set up you lose.
It has a lot going for it but it needs more 😜
Tell me about it haha. I've had a lot of success with it, but you just get some dead hands sometimes, or the worst are when you draw the power cards like Shifter and DRNM but no starters haha
i am going to buy floo, but im kinda scared that konami is going to ban wind statue or dimensional shifter. do you think they will get banned?
Honestly no, I think people complain a lot about those cards, but I don't see them as ban worthy, and I don't think it's what would get hit if Floowander is going to get hit
@@keasbeytcg but let's say wind statue get's banned will flunder still be a good deck?
@@dezfun34 I think so. It's a very good card for the deck, and losing it would change some games for sure. But I win a lot of games without Statue
@@keasbeytcg meh i just hope it won't get banned
@@keasbeytcg hey, do you got your floo deck list?