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(1530) Review: Master 5900D Personal Safe (JUNK!)
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2019
- Several of you found this Master 5900D Personal Safe and asked me to do a review on it. Priced at $30 we really couldn't expect too much from it, but it really is junk! Plastic body, plastic hinge, easily shimmed lock... basically everything Master Lock COULD do wrong, they did.
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Fill it with junk, secure it someplace in plain sight, and use it as a cheap distraction for hotel thieves. While the good stuff is out of sight.
Looks like the packaging was more secure than the product.
How about you fill it with stuff and put it back in the packaging. Place it in a prominent location for the thief to see. The thief might ignore it thinking it hasn't been filled with anything.
vacuform plastic is just asking to slash an artery
Master lock: the protection rating on the package is for the packaging
10% of the comments are some kind of joke about the packaging.
Masterlocks are secure as long as they're still in the packaging...
LoneRenegade yep, nobody dares taking the pieces of junk out of it 😂
You can use it for locking up your collection of Masterlock keys.
Thanks! But why would anyone _need_ keys for them?
Thanks to you and the LPL, I now know if it has the words "Master Lock" on the package, it's junk. Cheers
When your packaging is more secure than the “safe” inside... Gotta love MasterLock
That was a tease, really thought you weren't going to destroy that PoS
i'd love to see more brute force attacks (after picking of course) even just simple stuff like trying to pry it open with a screwdriver, or a hammer like this
In the end it was quite satisfying...
@@aaaaaaaaaassssssssdf Yus!
I sat I watched I laughed out loud the speed you unlocked it . I think the packaging was tougher than the lock itself. Cheers Paul UK
Master Lock:
Made with only the finest unsecurium
That was fucking poetic.
Jason W Also the revolutionary Easyopenicus
The plastic clamshell was harder to get into than the safe
I am a locksmith and for the record, I pick master locks for fun. I rarely charge anyone to get through a master, I feel like they have been hosed enough by them and I'm not willing to make them pay again for a piece of junk like what master sells. I think it's a disgrace for them to still be in business for selling such junk. They are ripping people off and I find it offensive. The whole company needs a security overhaul. Just one man's opinion.
$30 for THAT!?!
Cigar boxes are stronger than that
No, $0.15 is the correct amount this should be sold atl
An Amazon box with filament tape on it is just as secure.. Actually, it'd probably take the beating better...
Home depot sells them for $13.50. People that think these are meant to safeguard valuables are nuts, they're literally made just for locking up medical marijuana or illicit items during transport and they serve that purpose perfectly; without probable cause or your consent, a police officer cannot open one of these boxes, period. No matter how weak the boxes are, no matter how easy it is to crack the combo. A judge in america cannot compel you to provide a combination either; yet a judge in america CAN compel you to provide a key, any relevant biometrics, or any other physical means of unlocking anything. These cheap little boxes are freedom-savers, and I say this from LOTS of experience having my freedom, and the freedom of friends that i've gifted these boxes to, saved by these combo boxes.
They're only 13.50, but if I had to pay Master for all the fines and incarceration they've saved me from, I'd probably owe them six figures and 15 years
Case and point: the internal dimensions of these things are just enough to perfectly accomodate four typical dispensary ⅛oz cannabis jars. Law enforcement in my state can attempt to charge you with a DUI if you leave the dispensary with your purchase just sitting on the passenger seat even if you haven't consumed marijuana in weeks, it literally happened to my cousin and he was convicted of DUI despite being completely sober. They absolutely cannot attempt to charge you if you lock your trees up in one of these $13.50 boxes. These crappy little boxes are nothing more than the cheapest possible route to a certain type of insurance policy.
Nice one Bill..... That new pick in the shape of a hammer worked a treat LOL!!!!!!!
Thank you for this video. I've had this box for many years and forgot the combination. Never having picked a lock or broken into one I realy didnt know what to do. Thanks to you I still have the box intact (useless as it is.) And I now have access to my important valuable jewlry.
Master doing their best at being the worst as usual..🤔
At least their padlocks usually provide some resistance against brute force attacks...
Lockable containers like this are good for travelers, but not for in-room security. We use something similar for beach vacations. Throw your room key, some cash, and your phone in it and lock it to your beach chair. It keeps people from pocketing your stuff if your back is turned when they walk by your chair. We have no illusion that our container is pick or smash resistant, but it does a great job protecting our stuff from someone looking for unsecured items to grab.
This "safe" packaging seems like an ad for a game show for thieves.
"Passport! Cell phone! Other valuables! All this and more can be YOURS!"
The one thing you overlooked with the Master 5900D is you can actually see the gate because the gap is so wide! My ex-wife bought one and asked me to look it over and tell her how secure it really was. I picked it up, saw how wide the gap was, and rolled each number until the gates were lined up, prayed they at least didn't put the locking bar in the front, pressed the button, and it popped open. Total time was about 15 seconds. "Not very secure babe."
Another big smelly deuce from Master Lock. Not surprised at the inadequate locking mechanism, but usually the outer shell of ML products are relatively tough against a physical attack. Thanks Bill!
Maybe that's why the packaging has to be so solid. I can imagine anyone who had valuables stolen while "secured" in this "safe" might go back to the store and leave a #2 present inside the other "safes" on the shelf. Looks to be the perfect size and shape for holding a big fat tootsie roll. :)
Spend $30. bucks to lock up your $10. buck sunglasses. LOL!!!! Really nice giveaway there Bill, I could definitely use that to help me out.
Wow, I never would have imagined it would be that bad.
I was going to say that it's a marginal upgrade from using a zip-tie and a batman lunch box, but after looking at all the pictures of them falling apart in customer reviews, I'm actually going to say that a child's lunch box might be more durable. At least a lunch box has a heavier hinge and an interlocking lip on the lid.
Survey of owner complaints:
the hinge breaking in half
the entire lock falling out (it's only screwed to the plastic on the side opposite the latch (watch when Bill breaks it open))
the cable coming unlocked when jiggled
the lid opening if the box is twisted or dropped (or shimmed, since there's no lip on the lid)
the printed numbers on the dials wiping off easily
the lock failing to open with the correct combination (or only unlatching either the lid or the cable, but not both)
the lock reset mechanism not working
the lock opening with the wrong combination or any combination
the latch jamming in the open position, making it impossible to re-latch the lid/cable
the code wheels jamming or spinning freely, making the lock inoperable
the crimped ends sliding off the cable easily
rubber flap falling off immediately
the latch buttons breaking off
the hinge pin sliding out when the lid is open, leading to the hinge breaking when trying to close the lid
sold as water-resistant when it's obviously not (holes for wires, no gasket, no lip)
Nothing says "appearances over substance no matter the cost'' quite like that fashion statement, though. Adding superficial aluminum decorations only makes it cost more and provides no benefit toward the ostensible raison d'etre. They could've made an equally ineffective product for less, but they actually spent extra money to give false impressions. That should clue you in on what goes into the design process.
Ultimately, making it secure is unimportant toward its actual reason for being. The product itself is an empty gesture -- merely an emotional stimulus in the form of a product-shaped object. The superficial features inflate the perceived value at the moment the product is fresh in the life of the purchaser. This moment is when you're most likely to associate the positive emotion of reassurance with the brand. Simply put, being functional or durable does not provide "impact".
I have one of those, it's okay to secure things inside of a backpack I have on my person, but past that I wouldn't trust it. I don't remember the combo; i just decode it when I need to get in.
That's the intented use - give pickpocketers an obstacle. It's safer to grab things and go away with them if there's no steel cable attached to it.
Masterlock videos are always the most entertaining ones.
Those Assa locks are very expensive. For those who don’t know, I’m a Locksmith. A gutted Assa twin mortice cylinder costs me about $75. The sidebar is close to $10. A key blank is around $6. Those Assa pins are very expensive too, so for the money, that lock is a good deal. The issue I see, and I didn’t see any in the bag - sidebar springs. They’re very tiny, and very strong, don’t lose them!
i just bought it...for my Mexico trip. It doesn't feel safe, but at least I feel a bit safe when I go on to swim and no one is watching my stuff. Of course, do not leave your passport and a lot of money in this plastic box.
Training locks giveaway! Yay!😍😍
Seriously ... MasterLock should be already out of business if people just know what secure quality their products is.
But there's one positive thing about this "safe": It is that kind of box which keeps stuff secured only in the public where it caughts attention if you apporach to it in an unusual way (e.g. opening with a pick instead of just rotating the numbers). It's not intented to leave it unwatched; it DOES prevent thiefs from grabbing your stuff laying around and give a run.
The gaps in the hinge are designed to limit how far the case opens.
Lol so I have one of these...and I use it for meds and this am I woke to found someone had pressed the delete key in my brain to my combo...like I couldn’t remember it literally to save my life...found this video and was like well this will be easy...but I couldn’t find anything thin enough to get down in there to feel the grooves..............a mayo packet from chick-fil-a will work just fine...I am mind blown....I literally picked a lock with a mayo packet...time for a new box!!!!!
The Clam is probably the Clamshell packaging of this particular SKU.
Bill that was so satisfying watching you smash it open, thank you!
I used to have one and forgot the combo and I used a pair of needle nose pliers and slid the hinge bar out very easy... but now I seen Ur vid I can pick and fix it :)
How is masterlock still in business? I dont think ive ever seen a master lock from them 😂
As much as we knocked it in the comments section, I liked the cable thought.
I like how the only piece of metal on it is glued to the top cover.
Only think I'd put into that would be a live angry scorpion. Imagine the surprise to someone opening it.
Hey Bill, I'll bet you and LPL aren't on Master Lock's Christmas card list.
Master lock sends them coal. They immediately pick it.
It’s Christmas every day for them when MasterLock releases a new “lock”
Just from experience with this product. I just bought a truck with one of these strapped to the seat mount. A single hammer strike on the top right of the box was enough to deform the case and pop it open. A three year old could get into this.
I'm glad you smashed it open! You know what your viewers want :)
Awesome give away Sir.
The hinge is made with those slots in it as a mold artifact. Instead of having a pin that needs to be extracted in the mold, they form the top with one mold half and the bottom with the other mold half. I believe if you took it apart that each loop is two offset halves instead of one piece that surrounds the hinge pin.
$75 is cheap for a current version ASSA Twin even here in Denmark. Just looked up online prices at a discount locksmith. Standard ASSA oval with home use twin (model RG1660) is about $100, the fully hardened edition is pricier.
Looks like a nice case for my sunglasses. But at $30. I can buy several pairs of cheap sunglasses for that.
It just depends what your using it for. There are situations where this is genius. I won’t divulge because it’s revealing more then I intend. But it is pretty handy. Think of it as a deterrent not a safe.
Very interesting design and idea, just needed better materials for the body, and shielding on the combination. I'm sure with their funds they can make that much better and keep the cost down
I have one, that I keep the keys to my handcuff collection in, just to deter any visitors from messing with my cuffs since there'd be no keys. But I would not want to use this product to protect anything really important in a public place. It would be ok perhaps to attach something to your chair that you are sitting on in a restaurant MAYBE but, yeah.. It's not great. Though my one has pretty tight tolerances and I have not been able to decode it.
You would think ML would at least start shielding the wheels on their combos...not even an offset 😆
What would you recommend? Desperate need for a portable safe with similar functions as this
What would you recommend? Desperate need for a portable safe with similar functions as this
A VAULT, no.... but consider the purpose: For use when you go to a pool, tennis court or gym bag. My gym does not offer lockers. This would be adequate, though the lock should be guarded. Your cell phone, billfold etc can be protected again a common grab-n-go. The cable is to attach to a chain link fence, or to a lounge chair. This is NOT a new item, I had them in my store for the above purpose 3-4 years ago. We sold them for 19.99. Amazon is getting how much? We even had pink ones with a factory donation going to the Komen fund. Same 19.99
Who'd expect that. It seemed such great quality 😆
Great giveaway 😎
7:59 Got one of those on my front door here
Ive had this safe for 5 or 6 years now and ive had to get into it with a metal dental tool by shiming the hinge above the combo dials because i spilled soda on the dials and the buttons you pish completely seized up and wouldnt even depress. It took 15 seconds.
I keep seeing videos all over about these boxes with people ragging on them for being junk, even though they only cost like $14 (NOT $30, that's absurd. 14 everywhere including home depot where I've bought all mine, going back like five years). What's worse is that all the haters don't even understand what these boxes are made for. Hint, it is NOT for securing your valuables! That would be insane, you can tell from a mile away that this device is NOT a "safe."
I own and have owned MANY of these things. Back in like 2015 or 2016, home depot was offering the black, blue, and magenta versions of these in-store for the holiday season... I cleared out every store in my area multiple times, I bought over 60 of them to gift to friends and family. Iirc their Christmas "sale" was for a buck or two more than the $14 or so they're now charging for these things, but its been years so I may be misremembering. I do believe the older models were a wee bit tougher (overall physical construction, I don't think the lock was any different). I could be wrong, but I did watch a few police officers spend over half an hour trying to break one open. Perhaps they were just inept, they did seem it. I got a great laugh out of it, most definitely a $14-value laugh.
Anyway, all you professional haters are egregiously failing to understand what these boxes are for. The point of these things is NOT a reliable lock, nor is it about a durable box. These things serve an important legal purpose and could potentially save your freedom; which is why I've purchased over 60 to distribute as holiday gifts in the past, and why virtually everyone I consider near and dear still has at least one that they use regularly. They've saved my butt more times than I can count and I know the 60+ I gifted have saved a lot of other butts too. These things are made for one thing only: keeping the eyes and hands of law enforcement officers off of whatever you choose to store and/or transport in them. The one time I watched some police spend sooo long cracking one open, It was empty and I had essentially handed them manufactured probable cause just to mess with them since they'd wasted my whole night messing with me over nothing. Under normal circumstances if you get stopped by the police and they have no reason to suspect you of a crime (probable cause), and you have this box or boxes im your vehicle or on your person and locked, law enforcement in America CANNOT open one of these things without your consent; no matter how weak they are, and no matter how easy it is to crack the lock combo. They cannot just sleuth out your lock combo if you've neither given consent nor probable reason to believe that you've got something illegal in the box. These things are for getting your medical or recreational marijuana home safely without getting a DUI, or your scheduled-substance prescription drugs, or your plain old illegal recreational drugs, whatever. Not only are police officers not allowed to open these things unless you've got other illegal stuff sitting out in the open in your car, or if you give them consent for whatever crazy reason; beyond all that, the reason they have a combo lock and ONLY a combo lock is specifically because a judge in America CANNOT compel you to fork over the combination, as it's an intangible that exists only in your mind. A judge can order you to produce a key to a lock, a judge can compel you to unlock a biometric lock like a fingerpint sensor, but NOT a combination. Doesn't that piece of mind sound like it's work $14 to you? It sure as heck is to me. FYI, one of these can fit four typical dispensary ⅛oz cannabis jars *perfectly,* or perhaps two ¼-½oz jars. Almost like they're made for eachother, huh?? They are!
I'm not a shill for Master but I do in fact use and enjoy several of their products (such as these LEO-safety boxes and MANY typical key box lockboxes for storing an extra key hidden somewhere on every property I own; but what I love most about Master is their customer service. They offer real American "we'll make this right no matter what it takes" type customer service and that is rare these days. My most recent interaction with Master: a friend of mine bought one of their crazy expensive $60ish bluetooth smart locks, and they accidentally included the wrong combo in the package so my friend could never even use the lock. She forgot about it and waited so long that she couldn't return or exchange it at the store she'd bought it at, in fact she'd waited like three years before finally just giving it to me and I waited another year just forgetting do to anything about it. I had read on the internet that to get the combo from master lock, I'd have to bring it to the retailer it came from (Lowe's) and have someone there call master to get the combo based on the numbers on the back. I took it to Lowe's and everyone their was befuddled, they all told me to just contact Master. So, I did just that, and a real human being immediately began correspondence with me over this lock. They sent me paperwork to fill out and send in for the combo, but I procrastinated for months and just kept forgetting to fill it out and send it in. All the while, the Master representative was checking in regularly to make sure I was okay and remind me to send in the paperwork. I kept forgetting, and at this point it had been *four to five **_years_* since the lock was first purchased. One day I opened my mailbox and found in it a BRAND NEW $60ish Master BT smart lock, along with a personal note from the representative explaining that Master would rather just give away an expensive lock than leave a customer SOL because they just couldn't make the time to mail in the paperwork. I still have the old combo-less lock, plus the new one that I use every day on one of my tool bags. How many companies out there today have customer service like that??? The very very very few that do, like perhaps Coast Portland flashlights and pocketknives, they usually charge you "shipping and handling" for a warranty replacement that's probably more $ than jt costs them to manufacture and ship a new flashlight to you.
*_ATTENTION_*
All of you talking about how terrible these things are, you must know of a better alternative product that uses ONLY A COMBO, NO KEY so is therefore viable for keeping the police out, but one that's also much stronger and with a much better COMBO ONLY lock. They must be similarly cheap too, since you all think this freedom-saver is a ripoff at $13.89/each that these cost. Since you guys apparently all know of such a solution, would you mind sending me a link? I'll buy one for myself and another to have shipped to you, just to say thanks!
Masterlock has outdone themselves!!!
Considering the pistol safe I bought for 10 dollars is atleast made out of stee.
There's a demand for quality portable lockable security enclosures. It would be nice to see the supply meet the demand.
Thanks I used a razor blade because I forgot the combination.
Great video!
Bill love the vids and no disrespect intended but aluminum isn't typically ferrous...(magnetic) so that wasn't the best way to see if plastic is a cover or not...keep the videos coming
Do you know what I find funny is that the packaging is harder to get into than the clam shell master lock lol..they are so easy for me to do just by touch and feeling. But good job Bill 👍
Thanks for another great video!
Nice for locking up my smencils
Nice revealing of this non-secure combination lock! There are some more secure combination locks out there - cost cutting strikes again!
The notches on the hinge are a stop so you can only open the lid so far.
Could use it as a decoy lock it up in your room with some rocks or sand in it, then put your stuff somewhere more secure chances are a thief will take the easy way and grab that thing and go and not bother searching. The eBay link goes nowhere for me says it doesn't exist.
I love it ! I wouldn't leave an empty beer can in there. Just a little further, aluminum shell and at least a key lock it could have been something more than the turd it is. I bet entry could be gained faster with a butter knife than the combo.
Have you tried the new v2 forever lock deadbolt?
wonder if a decent flat blade screw driver couldn't have just popped it open.
With that flimsy latch, a drop down the stairs might also work.
Withstood a impressive five raps of the hammer... Must be a new Masterlock record. (D Clam? more like a F Clam, because it failllllllled!)
This is not a safe for in your house, folks. I use it on my beach chair at the pool and wrap it around my cooler and chair (locking my beers up a little). Yes; someone can pick the lock easy. It does stop shady folks from walking by my chair (in front of usually many other bystanders) and just snatching my cooler or my phone. This is a deterrent well worth the money. I would not trust this (or most other bag/packages like this) for my passports, Rolexes, big cash, etc.. It is a nice deterrent from quick thieves trying to score my phone at the pool or beach. Don't read too much into this PEOPLE!
YES! Junk review, love these
Making the world a safer place one junked Master Lock product at a time.
Thanks for your help
Almost didn’t enter this week because it was a master But then the BFH master key did it’s job. Lol. Love the prize
Nice training locks
Man I'd love to learn lockpicking so fingers crossed all weekend that I get this one. Good luck to everyone.
this thing isn't new. i had it a few years ago (apparently released in 2011), got it on amazon for $15. its still at that price.. i think you just got the version with the clamshell packaging. it's good for putting under your bed or something to keep a couple things away from the cleaning lady just in case, but thats about it. the small nature of it also makes it easy to hide in a drawer or something. amazon.com/gp/product/B005K6JQXQ
That packaging is more secure than the crap inside it.
Hey great videos but just a heads up it's not fairly new I had mine for 3 years
i've had to fix one of these for someone, did it, but recommended they find something else asap. they're complete junk.
a safe is just a portable container full of your most valuable items.
A lot of these combo locks can be picked using your eyes. I "picked" one of those laptop kensington locks by LOOKING for the gates and lining them all up lol
I was just wondering if you could do that.
Hey Bill! Some of those empty beer cans are worth a few $, especially if it's one you have enjoyed.
Great review. Thanks, saved me 30 quid
The most secure part of this product is the packaging.
Typical Masterlock
introducing the brand new NotSafe.
How is master lock so bad at making locks?
It’s crazy. Especially as they have been around 1921
I'm so glad you smashed it!
i was about to write in strike it when you hammered it lol
By now Bill you know if it says Master Lock on it, just pass it by. Waste of time and money reviewing it. I understand that it's so much fun to humiliate their products though.
It's ment to be portable. Not bulletproof. It just makes going through your stuff harder. Lol
Ok. I lied. I should have finished the video. Lol
I wonder if you could fold a dollar or use the corner of a laminated card to use as a feeler gauge for decoding. Being able to easily improvise the tools to defeat a lock makes it infinitely more useless.
This is the most secure... eyeglasses case.
More junk from master lock.
You can keep your pencils safe with it. Not much else.
Well i guess this could be useful in places where pickpockets and crab and run theft is common.
Wow, thanks for that
It's a fair guess that you cannot fit all of the items in the picture on the packaging into it. Maybe safe enough to pack a lunchtime sandwich, or a pair of gloves. Thanks Bill.
It would be harder to get your car keys out of a crushed beer can than out of that safe. Duct tape, cardboard, ice cubes all might be viable alternatives to that safe.
You hide your stuff in beer cans..... now everyone knows