Realistic implications of MONSTERS and MAGIC: FANTASY RE-ARMED
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How would monsters and magic realistically effect the society and life of a fantasy world, such as their towns, farms, traditions and so on.
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"We humans, we don't like being killed." -Shad 29/06/2019
As a human myself I can agree with this statement
Such a beautiful quote, speaks through the ages
Hello, fellow hoomans.
@@BE02Raziel a greeting fellow homan
"96% of Humans don't like to kill" - On Killing
Ah. As one of the elven scholars who are tasked with trying to write the history of your species this was the one thing I never quite got. I was always under the impression you guys loved being killed, it's the only way I can explain the arctic expeditions.
In North Carolina (USA) they once had an aphid problem. So they got ladybugs to take care of it. Then they had a ladybug problem. So they got stinkbugs to take care of it. Now there's a stinkbug problem. Imagine this in a world with monsters:
"We had a goblin problem, so we brought in a few ogres to take them out. Then we had an ogre problem, so we brought in dire wolves. Then uh, you get the picture. Anyways that's why we need you to slay the dragons."
Anyway, that's why we need you to capture the adventurers.
@@IrvingIV Ugh, and now we have to deal with the bounty hunters we brought in for those adventurers... Anyone up for that?
@@TheGoodluckjonny Mercenaries they'll listen as long as you got the cash
it solve I'll LORD DARK THE called I'm
Back in the early hundreds the Anglos had a Celt problem, so they
brought in some Saxons and Jutes to take care of it. Then they had a
Saxon and Jute problem.
Be careful when you hire people better at fighting than you - because you have money, and they can fight better than you.
"We humans, we don't like being killed." - Shad
"Oh, please. There has not been a single documented complaint about being killed by me from anyone who has experienced it." - Monster
@@pinkliongaming8769 maybe they have a complaints box installed on the other side.
Sarduche hiValshan local necromancer lawyers would like to object
Facestealer: "I'd like to see your manager please, your opinions have been very biased against us."
It isn't just your victims who don't like being killed, it's their families as well.
for food, can't you eat the monster ? goblin meat ?
One thing I now know... if monsters started to exist, there would be a sudden, inexplicable shortage of toilet paper.
LOL
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i didn't get it, can someone explain?
@@hasanmuttaqin464 the comment was from 10 months ago... maybe it's a refernce of the first wave of Covid-19
*Shad:* What about the regular person?
*NPC:* THANK YOU, finally someone takes notice
The bandits are coming!
* quicksaves *
-Runs bravely away-
But what about DRAGONS!?
Duchi watch the magic
But Shad, your country already has vicious monsters roaming the land that you have failed to wipe out: *Emus.*
Nah, mate, they went one better than wiping them out: they started domesticating them. It's the Cassowary you've got to be scared of...
Don’t forget the venomous snakes ... the violent spiders ... the sharks ... the crocodiles ... the jellyfish ...
Why do I feel like Shad researched this video by just walking through his neighborhood?
Nah the army failed to defeat them. But when the farmers were allowed to hunt them, the emus got *decimated*.
I think you mean Cassowaries
@@pathfindersavant3988 Thanks-be-to-God Cassowary are solitary: I mean, those psychos figure out this Pack Tactics business and its the Dynonicus all over again!
I could imagine wizard doctors magically altering the four humors or trying to remove bad air from the patient. Additionally, I could imagine an absolute explosion of quacks claiming to be wizards, selling totally ineffective cures and procedures with little way for patients to check before the traveling hucksters have moved on.
Like Galen?
Oh yes the bubonic plague!
Shad: If magic can produce food... *shows harry potter*
House Elves: Damn right I'm a joke to you.
Thank you!
There's a scene in one of the books where Mrs Weasley is cooking and produces a sauce of some kind from her wand. In book four Fleur Delecour makes water to put out a fire. Even making clean water at will would be a huge game changer
@@RaeHadzega
In chapter 15 of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows:
"My mother," said Ron one night, as they sat in the tent on a riverbank in Wales, "can make good food appear out of thin air."
"Your mother can't produce food out of thin air," said Hermione. "no one can. Food is the first of the five Principal Exceptions to Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfigura --" "Oh, speak English, can't you?" Ron said.
@@Ele- " Food is the first of the five Principal Exceptions to Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfigura" This always bugged me in the Harry Potter universe. "You cannot create food" they say. But you can create water (see Aguamenti), you can create fire (see Incendio) and you can create birds (see Avis). So just create a bird, kill it and boil it for f*ck's sake and you just conjured up food. In a world were conjuring exists, especially conjuring of living beings, claiming that you cannot create food is preposterous.
@@mihaiandrei12 Wizarding society is also constantly shown as fiercely traditionalist and almost deliberately uncreative when it comes to spell use. They're a stagnating, un-innovative society because they _deliberately want to be,_ to the point where they marginalize, oppress or even destroy anything that doesn't fit into their little boxes. One of Snape's few redeeming qualities is that he's one of the few people who grows at least _somewhat_ beyond that. And Voldemort grew so extremely powerful precisely because he dared to think unconventionally and try out stuff that was deemed inappropriate - it's just that the flipside of this is that he's also completely immoral. I somehow think most members of Wizarding society deliberately use social pressure to prohibit themselves and each other from even thinking about how the food problem could be solved with magic, because doing otherwise would risk to uproot their economic system, and thus their entire society. Hermione is a good little pawn herself in this regard by book 5. Despite her book smarts, her actual innovative power is completely limited to semi-misguided (and by "misguided", I mean "by far not radical enough") House Elf rights activism.
I remember playing DnD about 10 years ago and someone in the table said "this is DnD, even the gardener has a weapon"
Have you seen gardening tools?
*Ahem!* samwise gamgee
The Scythe can be used as a Weapon
It was made for cutting down crops but was weaponized
I know this is necroposting but there are actually stats for sickles, and I guess pretty much everyone has a dagger or spear
@@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 This CZcams, feel free to necropost as much as you want.
Uruk-Hai voice: *Looks like Shads video is back on the menu boys!*
😂😂 You made my day
While I enjoy that line; that was from Peter Jackson, not Tolkien. Jackson took so many liberties with the entire franchise, that when he wanted to do the Silmarillion, the Tolkien estate had to pass.
saw thumbnail and came for this
Orcs cheer: YEAAAAAAGGHHRRR!
No more magotty bread!
As far as the why are monsters still alive. I've always imagined it as one part hostil environment and rapid breeding but the other part is strategy. Your nation keeps pockets of monsters alive in strategic locations to prevent enemy nations from coming in or to keep your population under control through the fear of the monsters.
Can I..steal this?
Or keep some manageable number around for the resources that can be extracted. Hides, scales, blood for brewing, fangs, venom for antidote or medicine, etc.
A common trope in anime/mangas/manhwahs and light novels would be normwl animals and plants could mutate if magic levels are high enough and even higher levels of natural magic levels could just spawn monsters periodically. The other trope is for these monsters to consolidate the natural magic/mana into magic crystals within them which could be sold as magic items can be powered by them.
The existence of magic could also mean that guns never developed as just firing magic missile spells or using magic items to cast magic missiles might just obviate guns. There's also the concept of fortifying melee weapons or even your bodies with magic.
Nah. It's like asking "why are there still wolves or tigers". The wilds of the real world have bears for Christ's sake.
Monsters would still be alive because no one enters the swamps where the cursed trolls live, or the dense tropical jungle from where the cursed goblins come from, nor would any army march through the desert to try to hunt down some small pockets of the feared reptilians humanoids.
Monsters would be alive because they live in the places where the "civilized" races do not: deserts, tundra, mountains, swamps, deep under water, jungles, underground, even from other planes of existance.
Those monsters do not come from the fertile plains that the farmers grow their crops. That's why the monsters are still alive.
Heh, on monsters bringing about less racism, reminds me of Sir Pterry's line "On the Discworld, black and white lived together just fine, and ganged up on green."
Rhaenys Aryan hold up.. Do you mean race like our version of race or the fantasy version of race?...
Leo Cook didn't notice Aryan in his name... that doesn't bode well
That’s why I thought it was always strange how in Skyrim, a Redguard was viewed equally as foreign as an Argonian or Khajiit
I think you're right. If monsters were around for generations, it would mean that they are horribly hard to eradicate and a constant threat. People wouldn't want their armies to be around fighting other humans and there would be a lot of political implications about powerful nations lending their extra forces to smaller ones.
@@GBS4893 it would probably lead to most of mankind being unified under some sort of Mega United Nations with every country providing soldiers to face the continous onslaught of monsters, or a Theocratic Rule with a super religion where human God/s promise victory over the monsters and the monster hunters are seen as brave holy warriors. Precepts like "Every man and woman is equal in the eyes of the God who opposes the evil monsters" would arise.
Another point is.....Are monsters organized?
If not: Humans are intelligent, so certain monsters would learn that attacking humans is a bad idea, and would turn to fight other monsters for food. Trolls would compete for food with Dragons, which would lead Dragons to burn trolls upon sight. Large herbivore would band together and live nearby human settlements...leading to super cattle being used as defense against other carnivorous monsters.
If monsters are organized under some Dark Lord / Demon Lord, then expect a world war to arise every 20-40 years with opposing factions seeking to annihilate each other.
Person: I'm going to be a farmer.
Shad: *BUT WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS?!!*
WHAT WILL YOU DO WHEN THE BOMBS DROP TIMMY! WHAT THEN WILL YOU DO!
_Reign of Fire_ all over again.
but why male models?
Is there a spray for those pesky dragons?
If I ever wrote anything fantasy-related, I'd probably write dragons to be somewhat like bears, except many times more dangerous, in that they wouldn't mind people unless they're given a reason to mind, such as feeling threatened. Perhaps a settlement could encroach on their territory and limit their food sources. Livestock could attract them. Of course, people wouldn't build things out of wood, and a wall wouldn't keep a dragon out.
"There is a massive sword culture within this world's setting" - well of course there is, it was world builded by Shad :D
Yip
Massive machicolation culture
Shame, I prefer spear culture.
Swords as primary weapons? But... Shad himself taught us this never happens!
@@taelim6599 Swords are a primary weapon...
For self defense.
If monsters were real, I'd assume that like in medieval Britain with wolves, there'd probably be regular organized hunts/culls and most densely populated/civilized areas would be relatively safe and monsters would naturally avoid these areas. Along with the rich probably going on hunts like they did in medieval times, except hunting goblins and trolls instead of bears or boars or wolves or foxes.
Bears are definitely stronger than some common monsters in RPG. Definitely not monsters like trolls, dragons, etc but monsters that are smaller (like wargs and slimes) and less intelligent (intelligent monsters are like goblins and orcs).
Imagine, dawn arrives. The local farmers lounge next to the town walls of thick stone. The y number a few hundred. As they wait they hear the clanking of metal armour as the town guard approaches led by the lord's personal guard on beautiful destriers. The time has arrived. Now, they must FARM! The gates open and the guard advances securing the the fields. When all seems quiet the farmers join them and begin weeding. Suddenly, the ground shudders. The farmers immediately begin retreating to the gate as the ground erupts with the form of a giant insectoid creature. The town's stone foundation prevent them from entering but the fields have no such protection and the small wooden palisade surrounding the fields does not prevent their subterranean infiltration. Archers fire, pikes form up. Angered, the beast charges the line but the lord's cavalry strafe behind it, throwing javelins as they pass and leading it out of the fields. The crops must be protected and an open battle isn't healthy for the turnips! After a few more moments the beast lies dead and the the farmers return this time to strip the creature of it's meat and carapace. It may not taste good but it'll fill a belly if properly prepared. With the fields cleared the guard takes their positions through out and the farmers having loaded the meat finish taking care of the fields and quickly return to safety.
This would not be a fun world to live in.
But those that live there would be an extremely hardy kind of folk.
Ah, such an exciting short film passed through my mind.
@@haillobster7154 Yeah, that was a fun film to watch.
This comment does not have enough likes, probably because most people didn’t read the whole thing, I liked it!
@@The_Keeper like Fremens from the Dune?
That's why the OG Warhammer Fantasy is so good. Because it actually takes all of this into account.
My most favorite point would have to be that the practically safest place for a regular farmer to live in is in the province of a Vampire count. Bandits don't want to die and be made into undead, Orkz find hitting corpses to be boring so they don't visit and all of the monsters in the area belong to your boss, so if you pay your taxes you are just fine and dandy.
Thats interesting! I never thought about it like that.
My Warhammer Fantasy brothers and Sisters UNITE!!!
Is sad that GW killed off the world that was. It was pretty great.
Aaaand some of those taxes had to be paid in blood...
@@docartemis2878 The problem with GW's marketing is that why would anyone want to buy more of their miniatures if you can't use the ones you already have. They have single-handedly killed the entire miniatures industry, not just their fantasy line. In the 40K Universe, the Dwarves had the lowest sales, so they killed them off by saying that the Tyranids ate them. There is not a single ethics course that could endorse their business practices. GW is a prime example of shit rising to the top, and people know where the stench is coming from.
"My cousin's out fighting dragons and what do I get? Guard duty"
Funny thing is that his cousin is probably dead ?
who, who is fighting dragons? after all this time i have never seen city guards actively hunt dragons... ever...
You sound like a Veteran
For me, one guard said this LITERALLY five seconds after we killed a dragon flying over (yes, inside) the city of Riften.
Tamara Atum fighting dragons? Realistically speaking you are the lucky one there
Several dnd campaigns I've been in have involved the party being hired to escort a caravan between cities as a convenient way to get paid while moving around to continue our primary quest.
Maybe to follow on from the "what weapons would ____ use?" series, could we have a "what battle tactics would an army of ____ use?" series? Subtopics to cover tactics against various kinds of opposing army, fortifications and the ensuing arms race.
For pretty much every single species capable of wielding tools: Their armies would be much the same as Humans'. There would be archers, cavalry, skirmishers, bannermen, heralds, signalmen, cooks, leaders, advisers, artillery, tradesmen, etc.
The tactics of individual combat might change, but the strategy of war would remain the same:
Make your enemy no longer want to fight you.
I feel as if guerrilla warfare would be common among smaller armies as well
@@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 Goblins?
@@jesuschrist138 yeah, like that
Goblins: Zerg Rush
Shad is a master of understatement. "We humans do not like being killed...." It is all the more hilarious he can say it with a straight face.
Legal scene in Shad's world.
Lawyer : Objection! What about DRAGONS?!
Judge : Sustained.
Prosecutor : Damn, that really is a good point.
I laughed out loud after reading this comment for a good 5-8 seconds :)
Berserk Knight I don’t understand
@@papaofthejohns5882 it's kinda a meme on the channel
churchboy4 Oh, I’ve been following the channel for awhile on and off, must have missed it
Papa Of The Johns Yeah, I dunno, I’ve seen it before but only in the comments
I imagine travelling parties from city to city that take more than a day would have rest-stops that are well established. Probably have a fence and/or magical circle of protection/alarm (depending on the rules of magic), a small stable, and toll booth.
This tends to be the case with real life. Folks only travel during the day, and rest during the night. Frequent places where folks have camped develop into permanent communities, even if they're only a small hamlet with a couple buildings.
This reminds me of the disc, in most areas the coaching inns are a safe zone of sorts, as soldiers don't bother them, bandits know better, and the place is secured against the local threats.
like gas stations.
This is how my home town of Bakersfield was founded. Originally it was a field owned by Col. Thomas Baker (literally Baker's Field), and it was a convenient stopping place between Los Angeles and Fresno. It started building up, and became a town. The town became so large that it became the Kern county seat. We're still a convenient stop, because Bakersfield is a nexus of several major highways.
In my DnD setting I've toyed with a solution to the question "how have humans not genocided the monsters" with a old real world concept of the sin-eater.
In old times, there was a certain underclass of people called sin-eaters, who where vile, degenerate and shunned by polite society, who would be tolerated because of their role in a ritual where when a person died, a loaf of bread was placed on the body's chest, to "absorb" the sins of the deceased so they would not trouble their entry into the afterlife. Sin-eaters would be paid to consume the bread, and by implication the sin so that it is instead they who carry the burden of the sin.
By this principle, fantasy villages who don't have many warriors or cant afford mercenaries may enlist a sin-eater, someone who is innately infused with darkness and evil, may treat and bargain with the evil creatures that are too powerful to be fought. Evil creatures (especially the more mindless and unintelligent ones) instinctually understand that this "thing" is enough like them to understand them. And the sin-eaters are human enough in their wants and needs that accommodating them is a relatively simple matter.
So like... Angra Mainyu in the Nasu verse but not quite?
What about hiring the intelligent monsters as mercenaries, their bloodlust might make them more reliable than typical mercenaries.
Ooh! I was reading a story about sin-eaters … I had no idea that there was historical precedence for that! Now I wanna incorporate something like that in my world!
It's sad how the most crucial members of society (sin-eaters, farmers, butchers) are often the most shunned.
@@chloej1611 farmers and butchers are shunned? Since when? And especially farmers (I’ve never heard either but farmers???)
@@chucksolutions4579 Traditional shunned castes like the untouchables in the Indian caste system and the baekjeong in old Korean society often carried roles relating to the slaughter of animals, the handling of meat, and the burial of corpses, all essential roles.
Farmers less so, but they’ve traditionally been viewed as “lowly peasants,” even though their work is crucial to the survival of their civilization.
The reasoning for treating butchers as “untouchables” is because it was believed that the act of killing over and over again every day would corrupt one’s morality and soul. This also displayed itself more recently in … British society I believe? Every citizen was permitted to take part in a jury except criminals and butchers, on the belief that such individuals were not capable of making sound decisions on the fate of an individual who was accused of committing a crime.
19:22 a massiv sword culture?! In a book by Shad?!
What's next?
MACHICOLATIONS!?
Or POMMEL OF MASS DESTRUCTION!
I'm very fond of using the wandering monster trope. Most monsters live far away from civilization (being hunted whenever they establish territory too close), but some occationally wander close to settlements causing trouble either by competng with hunters or attacking towns and travelers.
This keeps the "brave new frontier" feel alive if so desired.
There's this old school 4x game called Dominions that has a really intriguing idea for a setting. Basically, powerful beings - wizards, dragons, monsters, etc. - were all once kept in check by the head god of the world, the Pantokrator. But Antagonist, the chief evil, managed to steal a portion of the Pantokrator's powers and the two killed each other in mutual combat. Now the world is full of incredibly powerful beings - some good agents that once served Pantokrator, some monsters that were chained beneath the world by Pantokrator but have now broken loose, some just plain powerful wizards that have ascended to demigod status, liches, etc. - and they all want the ultimate prize: to seize the Thrones left behind by Pantokrator, his source of infinite power, and gain his former godhood for themselves. And so they all enslave, charm, or promise to protect their own little groups of mortals, and start to build civilizations in an effort to seize the Thrones and become the new chief god. Each of these aspiring demigods are so powerful that they exert dominion over the lands of their worshipers - and much like the Fisher King from Parzival, their Dominion changes the form of the land. Industrious rulers make the lands productive and inspire their people to forge better weapons and tools, evil rulers have dominions that can drain the life from the land and eventually turn it into a land of undead horrors, etc. It ends up being a great way to explain such common fantasy tropes as "I live in a frozen climate, but the next kingdom over is a sandy desert, and to the south you will find a land that is just filled with lava calderas, etc. The monsters - and why they don't die out - also make sense, because they are minions of the demigods, creatures bred in their dark pits or summoned through prayer, so there's always a fresh supply of new monsters being made and sent to invade the territories of the other demigods. And since prayer can actually work in this setting (it makes demigods stronger in magic and in Dominion), the main way the common people defend themselves against monsters is to pray and worship enough that their own demigod gets enough power to create their own monsters to fight off invaders.
So in my own project, the prevalence of monsters varies wildly from region to region. In the more wild regions, monsters are very prevalent and _everybody_ is armed.
For my RPG and fiction setting I assumed monsters would strength the fuedal contract, not weaken it. A feudal lord and his knights is expected to keep the monsters from killing the peasants who farm on the lord's behalf. That wouldn't change the medieval paradigm a while lot.
That's a very interesting idea with magical healing stunting the growth of mundane healing. You could also say that adventurers stunt the growth of anti-monster protocols. In my setting, most magic is an extension of normal skills so to learn healing magic, you first have to learn how to heal without magic.
What about feudal lords hiring monsters? Like a troll would make a great soldier.
@@rhorynotmylastname7781 Or a taxman at the kings bridge :D
@@Norwyn taxation is theft
@@rhorynotmylastname7781 but theft in the name of the king. Thats a difference ;-P
The feudal system in Europe came about due to Vikings.
First when vikings sailed up the local river, the local lords had to wait for the main army of the king/emperor to arrive, allowing the vikings to raid and pillage at will until the slow royal army approached. The vikings then just got on their ships and rowed away. Occasionally they also took advantage of the fact that the royal army was away from the capital so they went there to raid, knowing that the army had to march all the way back...
-So the local lords needed to be able to quickly form sizable armies that could engage and/or drive away the vikings who had sailed up the local river, and thus the feudal system was born.
If Vampires existed, they'd surely ignite our garlic farms!
depends.
how big of a tread are they? do they kill all of their victims, or are they just really big moskito's?
how common are they? many settings have vampires being very controlling of their own kind to keep their populations low enough to not be problematic.
how integrated into society are they? they live for long times and are generally smart. a wise king would probably want these brilliant and ageless being to join his court. the problem would be that they'd need to be provided with food, so the question becomes how much would it cost for someone to donate blood/how many prisoners are being executed?
Are you a garlic massacre apologist?????
@@rudolphantler6309 pretty sure i'd be the opposite as i come with reasons why it wouldn't work.
(also it depends on the setting if garlic actually does anything, in setting it might just be a worthless old wives tale)
Hehe just joking.
Man, this did not age well.
In my D&D group we have a running gag where whenever our characters encounter something ridiculously dangerous, we threaten to retire and become a farmer. As a result, we occasionally joke about farmers potentially being high-level retired adventurers - who could single-handedly handle monster attacks better than a decent sized village.
Side note, Goblin Slayer was great, and you should read the manga "Claymore". Don't watch the anime, they cobbled together a really bad fake ending. Or at least be mindful of this and read the manga afterwards. I bet you've already read MHI.
Shoutouts to Ninja Slayer pfp
@@mslabo102s2 Domo
Something which came up fairly commonly in live roleplay in an online setting is humans aiding monsters. Cultists, consorters, funders to beat a common enemy, etc. These things attack people often, so enemies could easily push a wave a certain way to topple or weaken a foe using monsters.
Good content though.
hey mom im going to see my friends
ok just be careful not to get killed by goblins zombies skeletons giant rats .....(a few hours later) werewolves and vampires....
hmm on second thought lets barricade the door and sleep and the basement
'but what about land sharks and were-worms mom?'
"well i guess we are moving to the castle tomorrow my child"
Giant rats... don't you mean "rodents of unusual size"?
At least you can possibly reason with vampires
The omnissiah - tell them to go away because you ate garlic ribs for dinner
"How would fantasy elements affect the everyday life of an average random person"
Terry Pratchett wrote over 30 books over that concept.
And not only that, the books showed the clear evolution of the Discworld from a medieval fantasy world, to a more Industrial Revolution type of era. Just because there was magic and monsters didn't stop the people (and dwarves and trolls) of the Discworld trying to make life easier.
What is the series called?
@@Jackb290 Discworld. Maybe something a bit more technical like "tales from the Discworld" or whatever, but just by looking up Discworld you'll find it.
For the record, Discworld novels do build upon one another, so it's good to read them in order, but they are also written so that you can pick any at random and start from there. I'm only saying that because Pratchett's skill as a writer evolved a lot during the series and the first couple stories aren't his best :p They're good, just not the best.
@@Jackb290 commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Discworld_Reading_Order_Guide_3.0_(cropped).jpg#mw-jump-to-license
Well I would hardly call rincewind and twoflower average
Edit: twoflower has the luggage and rincewind has the spell
the anime "overlord" has a good explanation. essentially humans are more concerned with money then they are wiping out monsters
Considering the fact that my MC lives on the edge of a forest infested with intelligent trolls and ogres, and dire wolves bigger than horses I should probably add some sort of conflict.
Before watching video:
"Where do you live?"
"Outside of town."
"Oh, well, that's boring."
After watching:
"Where do you live?"
"Outside of town."
After reattaching their jaw, they say, "Woah. You're brave. What's it like?"
If undead was very common, there would be a sweatshop of clerics producing holy water everyday. :-D
Now I'm imagining a bunch of clerics running on treadmills while someone goes around collecting their holy sweat.
@@BlissfullWulf if undead were common id imagine the religions would like in dragon age be big advocates of cremation to reduce the dead bodies around to form ravaging undead hoards.
There would be no cemetaries.
@@danielapavel4523 just take their corpseknees and corpsehands before burial
Or heavily advocate the use and education of Necromancy, undead can't be a problem if you control them plus free labor
and heavily regulate this practice in case of rogue necromancers
I enjoyed this self-promotional advertisement for your book.
Agreed, it's not like he keeps going on about, say, "do you have 90 minutes?" =P
@Baleur
WTF son?!?!?! I'd rather he advertised his fantasy novel (ON HIS OWN FANTASY COVERING CHANNEL) than kicked off another off topic religious argument ..... Did i mention that this is HIS OWN CHANNEL ... LMFAO
Blowfeld20k rip ur sense of humor
The undead problem is something that I addressed in my world with burning bodies actually lol. Prior to a large-scale undead attack, normal burials and traditions were performed. Afterwards, they realized necromancers could keep raising undead so the Emperor decreed that bodies had to be burned from then on. The funeral traditions changed, but every now and then sneaky necromancers found new ways to "acquire" bodies, but thankfully an undead attack on a larger scale hasn't been replicated since.
With The Elder Scrolls video game series, teleportation magic really annoyed me. It was abundant throughout the world (scrolls, magic items, spells) for the player to use. But in a real fantasy world, nobody would use carts or ships or horses or wagons because they could just teleport themselves and goods everywhere.
Honestly, if anyone had the power to teleport in a high-tech setting, it would be a much better way to launch satellites into outer space.
@@AvengerofWarcraft Dragonstar, teleport magic is the standard method of interstellar travel, that whole "any point on the same plane" range taken to the logical conclusion.
Bethesda annoys me with teleportation. They have it in Elder Scrolls and Fallout but they don't think about most of the logical conclusions of including it.
@@browneyeofsauron1244then don't use it or play survival. You opted into it my dude
@@alphanoodle1877 I am talking about institute teleportation, not fast travel. Fast travel is fine, but the institute has the ability to teleport, and they do not care that they have one of if not the most overpowered technology on the planet.
For the undead; in my setting, undead are generally kept in necropoli. They aren't considered evil, they're just bored. So the necropoli are fitted with puzzles and mazes to keep the undead occupied.
There's a specific date where people visit the necropoli to spend time with deceased family members. This tends to only be done by those who could afford to pay for the corpses of their loved ones to be either mummified (if they are rich) or 'stripped' (if they are poor), or turned to skeletons in other words.
Sometimes, necropoli try to organize to bust out. This kind of rioting is mostly just a fit of boredom from one of its royal inhabitants yearning to lead armies once more. They will weaponize unstripped corpses (aka zombies) to sicken the necropolis guards enough to break out of this reverse siege.
There are skeletons that live outside the necropolis. The Nuns and Sons of Charon respectively live unlives of piety or partying. They're usually seen as positive additions to the city landscape, though they're frequently disconnected from their previous lives as opposed to those withering and ruminating in the necropoli.
The necropoli are kept around out of respect for old kings who serve as advisors to the present ones, should they return from the dead. They are given corpses as part of this covenant, to serve them in death. Undeath always changes the personality of the deceased, usually for the worst, but only in making them more callous and blunt than they were on life, not necessarily making them evil.
Undead can be commanded by necromancers, though, which is highly dangerous. Necromancers who do these sort of things for their own benefit are considered to commit sacrilege, though more because they don't respect the king of the local necropolis they're 'stealing' from.
And undead dragons are not generally interred into necropoli; they're a threat even to other dragons who are happy to lose otherwise immortal rivals. Undead dragons are considered poor sports by the living dragons. Undead dragons immediately flip this opinion, naturally, rationalizing that the loss of any dragon is a tragedy.
That sounds amazing. I'd read a book about that if one existed.
@@ebonslayer3321 Thank you so much! Maybe one day, I'll write a novel about it or release a setting guide for it! Right now, I have my own company to take care of first, though!
That is a very unique take on the undead, and I enjoyed reading through your comment. For a while, I have tried to imagine my own explanation for how ghosts, magic, undead, etc. would operate in a fantasy setting. If you would like to critique the ideas/rules I brainstormed, here they are below...
*1.) Hypothetical Definition of Magic:* The ability of an earthly creature/object to use the soul it harbors to manipulate the physical world, sense the spiritual plane, etc.
*2.) The Corporeal and Supernatural Being Two Separate Planes of Existence:* I envisioned the supernatural realm(s) being a separate dimension, where disembodied ghosts and eldritch beings can exist and perceive the physical world, but have little to no ability to directly interact with it. However, loosely borrowing ideas from Silent Hill, I imagine that there could be some areas, where the two planes can start to become one, leading to things like haunted towns/landscapes or even pocket dimensions people can lose themselves in.
*3.) How Human Ghosts Operate:* Humans would be one of the creatures in this fantasy world, made up of both a corporeal body and a soul. However, one trope I wanted to figure was how a person’s ghost can come back, with some awareness and personality, while a normal person can lose memories/awareness just from suffering brain damage, even if he/she is still alive. To explain this, my ghosts would need to stay anchored to the supernatural realm, if they are to remain conscious and and able to perceive their surroundings, independent of their body. So once a person dies and his/her spiritual self fades away, the ghost can pretty much only appear to people in those paranormal places, where the two dimensions are merging together.
*4.) Humanoids Using Magic:* Because magic relies on a person using his/her soul to do things and most normal people only know how to act/perceive with their bodies, it is rare for someone to be gifted with an affinity towards magic right from birth. Even in those cases, it would take great education/practice to wield magic to one’s fullest potential. Those areas where normal people can encounter spirits are also rare, mostly limited to a mysterious holy or unholy sites.
*5.) Purely Spiritual Entities:* These entities would be entirely non-corporeal and somewhat fit the angel/demon archetype. They are naturally much stronger than a human soul and have always existed in the supernatural plane, giving them far greater knowledge and power than a typical humanoid wizard. However, their non-corporeal nature means that they are almost powerless to affect the physical world (besides planting an idea/inspiration/temptation into someone’s mind), unless one meets them at an eldritch location or they are specifically granted access. If one wants to add some Lovecraftian elements, there could be some entities that harbor an amoral attitude towards man, rather than a strictly benevolent/malevolent one.
*6.) Magical Beasts:* Creatures like dragons, griffins, fairies, etc. can be established as other earthly creatures with souls, which possess their own unique supernatural powers. If dark magic and/or hell-spawn creatures are to be incorporated, that is perhaps how manticores, chimeras, or worse monsters can operate.
*7.) Magical Devices/Potions:* Taking notes from the trope of genies being imprisoned in a lamp, these kind of magical items could be extremely taboo in this hypothetical fantasy world. They would involve a spirit being magically bound to an inanimate object or drinkable substance, often against its will. For instance, a flaming sword could be created, by mortally wounding a dragon and ensnaring its soul to the weapon as it dies. Cut off from its body and/or the supernatural plane, the spirit loses all self-awareness and will unconsciously lend its power to any magic-user, who wields the object or ingests the potion. However, if someone brings such an object to a haunted location, the soul will regain its consciousness and may fight against its bonds.
*8.) Undead Monsters and Werebeasts:* This would pretty much takes notes from Bloodborne’s playbook. In that video game, the scourge of ghouls, vampires, and werebeasts started with people consuming or experimenting with the blood of Great Ones, Lovecraftian creatures with supernatural powers and the ability to travel between dimensions. In this hypothetical fantasy world, there could perhaps be unholy abominations of a similar nature, whose fluids can partially restore dead tissue, mutate living tissue, and turn them both into conduits for their magical power. Given how dramatic it would be to create undead monsters or transform people into beasts, this would be presented as a power that defies all concepts of the natural order and is alien, even to people with some understanding of magic.
This book has me excited already. Mainly because Fantasy Re-Armed demonstrates Shad’s ability to analyze and understand how the “rules” should work in fantasy. Hope your main character wears a Shabbard ;)
Shad studied not only the Blade, but also the bow, the crossbow, mideval lighting, practical armor, design, and writing.
He is the god of knowledge
Interesting thought:
Magic can make food, but it’s inferior to normal food (tastes noticeably worse, has a much shorter shelf life, maybe slightly less satisfying as well).
Make magic common enough that the average person could get food from someone with powers.
Now, the rich would almost certainly prefer normal food, along with armies who need to pack month’s worth of food, and merchants wanting to export.
That makes a tension between the classes:
The poor don’t *need* to farm to live, but everyone in power wants them to farm.
considering how hard logistics can be for a large millitary, why wouldn't they just bring a couple of mages to make food on spot as their main source of food. (2 years late to raise this question). Why would armies want to pack month's worth of food to use or to supply to another army when the army can just bring wizards?
@@xianwu5070 you raise a good question.
It would depend on how nourishing the food is and how much magic is required to conjure it.
So if it takes a pretty competent wizard to summon 10 people’s worth of food, I doubt Fantasy Rome can spare 1 Wizard per contubernium. They’d probably have logistical issues having 1 per century as well. But when you start seeing 1 per cohort you’re getting into the realm of not really needing real food.
To think of it another way, if making a meal is a cantrip, armies wouldn’t need real food at all. If making a meal is a very low level spell slot (whether you think of slots as limited in number, or merely that your access is higher spells is limited) then it could be an effective _supplementary_ tool. If every meal is a mid level spell slot then armies have no real use for them.
Of course, if it’s common enough that most regular people don’t need to farm it’s also probably common enough that armies don’t need mundane food either- again, assuming it’s nourishing enough for a grueling military campaign, which I’ll point out MREs are extremely calorie dense.
Shad: "We humans don't like to be killed."
Me: "You teach me so much."
>Cremation would become universal
The ash spawn say "hi".
Oh yeah
The problem is that cremation would only be available in civilize areas, I highly doubt bandits or an enemy nation is going to take the time to burn the corpses of their victims if they going to either abandon the area or move to another area.
@@DarkBattleMage0407 Use the corpses of your enemy or killed civilians against them.
@@ls200076 Sounds like a plan
@@ls200076 wasnt gengis known for catapulting the dead of his army into city walls to spread plague? couldnt something like this happen, catapult zombies as theyre starting to turn?
Shad : "You might see less conflict between nations because of a vindictive and prominent common enemy"
The whole of European History : Allow me to introduce myself
Love this comment!
15:50 Like weeds and other invasive species they’re EXTREMELY HARD to get rid of, for they adapt and are resilient
If my memory of mythology is correct... then goblins breed at about the same rate as boars do and need to be hunted just as often as boars do, since both are equally destructive to their surroundings.
💀dear god
Goblins are just boars
The concept of nations allying with each other to wipe out monsters is actually shown in LotR. Elves, dwarves, men, and hobbits all joined together to wipe out Sauron and the orcs. Just a comparison that I liked to point out.
Walter Mattiko yeah, and the US, France, and Britain allied together to wipe out the Nazis, basically the same
what about allying with monsters to fight your neighbours.
I think we’re going to need a lore video (or three) on Chronicles of Everfall. That sounds like a fascinating way to 1) see these analyses applied in an actual fantasy setting, 2) explore a unique fantasy world, and most importantly, 3) promote/market your novel.
please make a video talking about the implications of beast masters/tamers who can tame not monsters, but monstrous animals, like direwolves!
16:10 a common one that I see often bean used in novels, especially Japanese ones, is that monsters appear from miasma, or places with hi concentrations of mana or similar, so it's an endless fight against the monsters.
and when monsters are directly tied to emotions and stuffs, boom, instant character development.
2:24 in Harry Potter food cannot be magically created (Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfiguration), its made by the house elfes end then teleported
Sonntags Gamer except for that one time in the second book that McGonagall conjured juice and sandwiches for Harry and Ron after they crashed the Ford Anglia
Edit: there’s also that part during the Yule ball where whatever they say to the menu magically appears on their plate
@@maggiep6387 HP isn't known for its consistency.
@@maggiep6387 She could've summoned them, technically. But yeah, they can't conjure food out of thin air... but you can transfigure something into food or multiply existing food. You could Jesus your way out out of every mass famine with a piece of bread and a fish.
@@darkblood626 It wouldn't surprise me if the teachers have their own stock of food from the kitchens, to be summoned at their leisure. But definitely a point without sufficient explanation.
So the moral of the story is that magic is good but slavery is better?
JK Rowling has some splaining to do.
I'd expect the settling/colonizing of new lands to go much slower if there's monsters to deal with. This would likely lead to much larger areas of uninhabited wilderness unclaimed by any nation, but in lands that have been claimed by a nation, I'd expect there to be a conflict zone on the borders where patrols routinely have to deal with monsters encroaching on their lands and people, but with a safe interior as long as the nation maintains strong border defenses.
This would also mean any attempt to settle a part of the wilderness would have to start with a military campaign to clear out enough of the monsters to make it feasible for a civilian population to move in and claim the lands for their nation.
I do agree we'd be less likely to see conflict between nations in such a setting and a likely trigger for conflict would be a nation not doing its share to keep the wilderness monsters at bay. Another situation where conflict between nations could build is in areas that are very highly settled and most if not all monsters have been driven out already, and nations share borders with other nations, with few or no wilderness areas that have not been thoroughly cleared of monsters exist in the region.
Another source of conflict could be a nation gaining control any monsters of or making pacts with intelligent monsters for some sort of gain by using them against a rival. A nation using monsters against another nation would be a sure way to trigger a war as soon as the victim nation learns of this.
Or conflict between people will arise inside the safe zone, where no monsters are.
This is a really good point actually. I always wondered why in LOTR you would see fast stretches of country separating different nations. It makes sense now, I know that I would be a lot more cautious about leaving if I knew there were hordes of orcs out there. Also it makes sense why Gondor walled off Pelenor Fields. Like Shad said, people would be much more defensible.
One last thing, if people were to hole themselves up wouldn't that make them much more isolationist? Trade, travel and the spreading of news would slow down significantly with each nation being forced to create a relatively self sustaining economy. Yikes, I've really gone down the rabbit hole haven't I?
@@thecolorfulsalesman8354 In the case of Middle Earth, the isolation is also heavily contributed to by Sauron. He inflicted wars, plague and other calamities on the Western nations like Gondor, Lothlorien, and the Northern Kingdoms. The Dwarves were driven completely out of one of their largest kingdoms in the form of Moria, which was overrun but both orcs and a Balgog survivor of from all the way back to the wars with Morgoth. Then there's the northern Elven forest kingdom in what would become Mirkwood, their lands were severely pushed back by Sauron's corruption from Dul Goldor.
West of the Misty Mountains, the lands are so isolated because the population that once lived there was decimated by the war between the 3 kingdoms of Arnor and Angmar, which lead to the fall of all of Arnor, with places like Brie, and The Shire being the scattered remnants of that once mighty kingdom.
So the isolation of Middle Earth was brought about by a campaign of depopulation by Sauron and his minions. Not necessarily because the world was too dangerous to tame. Many of those empty lands were once populated, and in many cases, heavily populated.
If you look at other fantasy worlds like Forgotten Realms or Dragonlace, you'll still see plenty of wild, monster filled lands, where progress into them is slowed or halted because the monsters are that dangerous or the investment to settle those lands is too big to be worthwhile or needs significant preparation before settling is feasable.
Terry Brooks' main fantasy world, Shannara world is also full of wild, monster filled, uninhabited regions.
Terry Goodkind's world in his Seeker series also has wild, monster filled empty lands as well, and he also has very densely populated areas too.
This interplay between densely populated, rural, frontier and wild lands is one of the cornerstones of fantasy, it would seem. Many worlds have this, each for their own reasons.
@@Seriously_Unserious You bring up some very good points. I applaud you.
It is funny how you see this even with much lighter fantasy’s like MLP. Even there there are very notable stretchs of land between cities and settlements.
shad, this video has inspired me to create my own fantasy story. I have hated fantasy and anything with magic for a logn time, but this single video just sparked something to life in my brain.
I'd say the best way to solve the "overpowered abilities" of magic would be to set strict limits to it. One good example would be for magic to rely on energy, different types/ intensities of spells would have different amounts of energy required to cast (aka a mana system); overextending said limit would cause physical damage to the caster (depending on how far it over extends, the damage may be permanent like a normal scar). Another would be to make it so intense and consistent training would be required to learn a spell. For instance, being able to cast a small fire (say, like a torch's level) would be a basic spell that everyone could pick up easily (and would definitely be used fairly often) whereas a higher level fire spell (such as a flamethrower type spell) would take time to build up the mana and physical ability to use. This gives them good reason to use normal physical weapons, as not everyone can use high level spells, and not all can use them for that long. This also gives them good reason to experiment with technology like we have, as they'll want more wats to work faster while saving mana
D&D has a really good system of spell slots that are regained via a spellcaster taking a long or short rest, and expended whenever they cast spells where a caster has less uses of higher level spells than lower levels of spells
The Witcher series did a really good job handling magic. Its use required concentration and being able to memorize specific sigils and hand movements. It also show what happens when magical energy goes haywire and the consequences.
Ash Zombies: When cremation is simply the WRONG ANSWER.
Oh god D:
I bring forth the Cyber Undead. No need for flesh, bone, and the limitations of mortality. No need for constant war which amounts to nothing. Only to improve and to exceed God. lol
or skeletons made from magically compressed ash that looks/act like bone :)
Solstheim in a nutshell.
Hotwheels !!! you mean like in the first Return of the Living Dead?
Okay, okay, you sold me. This video was probably the best way to promote your book.
Another reason all the monsters haven't been wiped out is if they are in some way essential to the environment, to keep nature working properly, so the humans can't wipe them out without, i dunno, rendering the land unlivable somehow.
2:25
Actually magic can't create food. There is food prepared underneath in a table that mirrors the one above and the plates are swapped. While the students eat the servants clean the plates and prepare the deserts.
This part was cut from the movies.
"It’s bandits! It’s my first time seeing actual bandits!
In this world filled to the brim with monsters, there are
actually people who take up such a useless way of life!"
In a world filled with
monsters, it was hard to understand why anyone would
decide to live outside the walls of a town or city, so to think
that there were people that would actually pursue a life of
banditry…
If one was capable of surviving in a place filled with
monsters, instead of waiting for prey that might not even
show up, it would be better to work as an adventurer, and
live a more stable life.
Adventuring might not be that stable a line of work, but
compared to fugitives that couldn’t enter towns and live in
constant fear of monsters and knights, being an adventurer
was far better.
(Gifting The Wonderful World With Blessings!)
@@thundermarkperun1083 If it's a known dungeon then it must've been robbed clean by adventurers alredy, and if it's an unknown dungeon - good luck waiting for it to be discovered.
@@thundermarkperun1083 You still may or may not get anything for maximum amout of risk. I mean, if it's a game -then people are reckless, but usually people are hestitant to risk for risk sake.
@@thundermarkperun1083 Adventurers are basically vagabonds, they don't have a stable job so they spend time as freeters.
Maybe they're bandits because they resent society and things like authority and taxes and such. Why don't chop shop workers just become legit mechanics?
@@konstellashon1364 Because theu live in the sity? Also I am not sure, but aren't most chop shops are legit mechanics, but with side (backside) business?
Only a dead goblin is a good goblin, SO LET'S MAKE THESE GOBLINS GOOD!!!
A pig? What's a pig doin' in here? Oh well.
Goblinslayer
Goblins are cute. Dumb, but cute. Perfect species for domestication. And they make for perfect kebab, marinate them in garlic, cloves and blackberries with some salt and carrots. Then spit roast them over an open fire, nothing better than a well cooked goblin, except for perhaps human blood dumplings. - Grigorij Strigoivich. Head chef of the Vampire Lord Johann Rozenkreutz.
Actually as a normal human being, from the cold north, blood is a delightful ingredient for cooking. Preferably Beef Blood. You mix it with water and flour and you can make it into bread, dumplings and a lot more, you can fry it, boil it, and a lot more, soups, sausages, etc.
Bone Daddy eat dat me
I know an anime you'd like
This is exactly the question I asked when I read Percy Jackson and the Olympians. If demigods, as a race that's literally born for war, have had to deal with classical Greek monsters that eventually respawn and try to eat them for thousands of years, why aren't their weapons, tactics and armor optimized for that kind of fighting? Why don't they have some way to detect where new demigods are so they don't get eaten?
I loved the books but the fact that demigods basically haven't advanced anything in thousands of years of fighting the EXACT same enemies, with the amount of resources and skills they have is quite hard to believe.
" We humans, we don't like to get killed".
Shawn Bean crying in a corner*
If you swallow a flashlight and then spend 24 hours in the dark would you still turn into a monster? Technically you're still having contact with light.
Any volunteers for some human experimentation?
All your talking about Everfall has made me so excited. I love in-depth world building and it sounds like Everfall has a lot of neat twists and mechanics that I'd love to explore!
Interesting proposal, maybe not a flashlight but If you could put something luminescent into a glass sphere that could work in a less advanced society. If you were captured and taken into the dark you'd only be adding an extra day or so to try and escape, You'd have the risk of poor craftmanship in the glass orb itself in which it could break and fail inside you which would be pretty unpleasent and likely means it's not really designed to be swallowed, only as a last resort. Then youy've got questions such as where would you get something luminescent on a world or perpetual light. unlikley on the land, maybe some sort of marine life. Hmm would that source be viable to have an economy around it. It depends on the illumination, usage and the ease of gathering the product, it might simply be a byproduct when fishing. Wouldbuilding is always enjoyable.
@@drln1ghthaunter Fortunately there are "sunstones" in this universe. Stones that appear to be emitting sunlight.
Though they can get weaker with time, they might buy you a few days. Not sure how good for your stomache they are though.
Humans do generate a small amount of infrared light. Does that count?
@@peytonmac1131 um we do???!!!😜😜😜🤯🤯
@@princessthyemis yes. Everything above absolute 0 generates a small amount of infra-red light. Humans emit quite a lot of infrared light, due to being living, organic material at about 37 degrees
Wow, you got the Wheel of Time narrators! Two of my favorites. Congratulations on your book. I’ll be sure to get it.
Damn it Shad. Just when I thought my story was getting somewhere, you go and make me realize how much work my world building skills need! Where would fantasy writers be without you?
"Why the heck haven't we wiped them out ?!!" a good question.
_sees thumbnail_
*Looks like meat is back on the menu, boys!*
One of my favourite quotes from LoTR XD
What about them? They are freshhh Imao
Why am I not surprised the book has “Shad” in the title🤔😜
He has to, on principle.
One of the biggest factors I have in my high fantasy arcanepunk project I'm working on in limiting how effective and impactful magic can be, even though it is prevalent, is bureaucracy. Almost everyone can use at least basic level magic to some extent, but you have to be licensed to use specific magics legally, and even the most basic occupations all use some kind of magic or another that one has to learn in order to be effective and in demand at their occupation, but with the way education is set up and with how many hours one has to put into their occupation in order to live off of it, basic citizens are generally forced into a niche where they are only given the time and opportunity to learn what magic they need to learn to do their job and nothing more.
Primary school is called Instructum Arcanum, and most of the populace graduates from that into either Instructum Bellarum, which is basically military school, or Instructum Proletarum, which is basically trade school. They all go in with a specific occupation or role determined for them, and they only learn what magic and skills are necessary for that role. It is only those privileged individuals who graduate into Instructum Esoterum, which is basically like universities, who get the opportunity to learn a wide breadth and depth of arcane knowledge and have any real amount of freedom to choose what magic they want to learn.
ugh sounds like that sucks, I take it they take umbridge with unlicensed schools or other teaching institutions and whatnot which surely would still exist even illegally?
@@Sara3346 Most definitely. The setting is in a hegemony, and most of what I said goes for the core region only. The fringe territories have their own ways of doing things, and in the wilderness and in certain mercenary outfit circles it's basically anything goes. However, none of that is recognized as accredited or legitimate by any official bodies.
Have you seen the movie, 'Cast A Deadly Spell'?
I’m a starting writer and I’m focusing specifically on this!
I’ve made an entire timeline tracing from the first animals and plants and I did the entire evolutionary process to a futuristic world .
Note: EVERY SINGLE living being can use magic
my head hurts...
holy crap dude, that's intense
What’s your book called? Sounds very interesting.
I would very much like to read that!!
Now I feel bad about all the poor shanties I robbed in Skyrim and Witcher.
Interesting thought: How does this setting element gel with feudalism?
If every person knows how to use a sword, does that limit what a feudal lord can get away with before there's an armed rebellion?
Alternatively, do feudal lords have greater standing armies who are exceptionally well-trained because they regularly clash with monsters? Can they tax people extra because of the monster threat? Are they unwilling to war with each-other because whenever you take the army away, the monsters will have a field day?
There might not be a feudal system in such a world. There would be a ruling class, but I think the fighting class would be citizen-soldiers conscripts.
@@TanitAkavirius or monsters.
Would depend if "levels" exist, if some people can become overwhelmingly stronger than others, those people would naturally gain leadership positions and then ensur that their offspring achieves similar strength/power in order to survive, thus creating "noble" bloodlines.
People always were armed during the middle ages, feudalism never prevented people from having weapons, it was more early on the cost, later it became quite cheap, many cities wouldn't even allow you in if you werent armed, because the guard can't be everywhere and in every back alley so you should be able to defend yourself until they could respond, even police with all the comm technology we have is extremely slow to respond and a lot of people nowadays die because they aren't allowed to walk around armed and aren't able to defend themselves, also prohibition on weapons is a very recent thing.
On taxes, i would say it wouldn't affect taxes because it would be the norm, and the nobility would still lead the armies and protect people from monsters, hierarchy is natural.
Irl main roads would have small patrols, I would say in this fantasy case maybe a system like the Imperial Roman fort system with small contingents of troops ready to respond in the immediate area, scouts would be very important aswell.
It would never prevent war between human kingdoms or different human peoples, anyone who thinks that is very naive.
And if encounters with monsters were regular than yes you could expect large more experienced and hardened professional armies, it wouldnt be long until the humans would wipe them out or drive them into a precarious and weakened position, humans might even try and be able to domesticate certain monsters.
This unless the monsters are extremely strong and intelligent than the usual primal ones, let's say ogres or giants, but that poses the question why haven't they overrun and destroyed any human kingdom if they are far stronger than the humans and are hard to fight against (this assuming humans wouldnt develop tactics and strategies to effectively counter them)
@Questa Semplice Animazione yes I didn't say alliances wouldn't form, but I doubt on the "they would break less often", but its very circunstancial and it depends in alot of different factors, on culture and how it values honor, if the conditions are favourable to take the down a potential future threat that another human kingdom that might be a rising power might pose, because you always want your people, nation and culture/religion supreme above all other no matter the cost, so backstabs will always happen out of necessity and duty to your own being far above what any alliance or anything else will ever be worth.
As an example my country, Portugal, and England have the oldest alliance in existence 700-800 years or so if I remember correctly, but whenever it suited them they "circumvent" the alliance to their benefit many times outright working to undermine our governments and empire, others times usually early on helping us.
I dont blame them, my country and any other in their place would have done exactly the same or much more.
Even now with the fickle threat of nuclear weapons dying which is the only thing that has prevented war at least direct or total war between the great powers, but is losing its threat, because nobody will use it, and at the end of the day wars are inevitable and like Nichollo Machiavelli said "Wars are not something to be avoided for in doing so it is only to your own disadvantage" a little paraphrased.
Interesting vid; I've given much the same kind of thought to realistic implications of fantasy elements except that my focus has been more on the monsters themselves, specifically the more animal-like ones, because something that I haven't seen done often in fantasy novels is consider the ecology and behaviors of the monsters in relation to themselves, other monsters, and non-monster animal species. For example, just like humans don't like to be killed, animals really don't want to die either and ALL animals will preferably avoid situations in which they are likely to get hurt, because even a small injury can kill you either by infection, or hampering your food acquisition and escaping dangers (exceptions of this behavior include parasites/diseases that change the host's behavior to self-propagate or the desperate individual that will take on a greater risk for the chance to succeed), so apply this to the monsters and animals of the world.
For example: is the frequency of monster attacks on humans/crops/livestock as great as humans think they are, or is that the rare case that gets blown out of proportion because it's a monster
Do monster hunts change monster behaviors over time? Wolves have been persecuted for hundreds of years, so the wolves that have survived and reproduced would pass on genes that code for behaviors that make them more fearful of exploring new things because the less fearful would be killed without prejudice.
How would the presence of monsters affect the predator-prey relations between them and the non-monster animals? Could you have a situation where a normal crocodile can hunt, kill, and eat a griffin or do the monsters so dominate the landscape that regular animals become endangered/extinct?
Would a normal animal consuming a monster affect their own physiology in some way as the body breaks down and uses the nutrients provided? Is that how monsters continue to self-propagate once the initial monsters exist?
If they regular animals extinct, then do the monsters diversify to fill these ecological niche vacuums? What /do/ the monsters eat and how do they acquire food? Are humans their only diet item or are they an occasional meal? Or are there times when a monster specifically targets humans for food, such as a pregnant/gravid/recent mother monster seeking out high-magic humans as an essential diet item to feed her developing offspring either before they're born/laid or after?
If monsters are so prevalent, then do the humans try and hunt them for food as well? Are there any that are poisonous to consume? Or only poisonous to consume if not prepared a certain way? Maybe there are famous local dishes that specialize in cooking local monsters because they're just so dang prevalent. Would consuming monsters in any way affect /human/ physiology?
I could go on, but I think I'll just leave it at this for now.
One way that many fantasy settings avoid having to deal with much of the effects of magic is by having magic (arcane and divine) be a fairly rare thing, certainly not the sort of thing the average commoner would have access to (could not afford it or no magic user powerful enough in their local area). I far prefer this solution over having, for example, the magical creation of food throw the economy on its head like you mentioned.
That artwork looks like something from magic the gathering. I love it
Giving you a chance and pre-ordering your book. Keep it up Shad.
Edit : Went for the Paperback.
Its good :)
About the undead and corpse cremation, there is an anime that expands on it really good, its Hai to Gensou no Grimgar, or Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash in english, its also a really good anime in general with good twists on a lot of common tropes.
As a writer, I really love that you do this stuff; it makes me think more about the world I'm building and improving it and my writing in general. Thanks.
Shad: "something about Goblins"
Goblin Slayer: **shining eye intensifies**
Honestly what I like most about the story/setting in that property is that goblinslayer himself is written from the point of view of the poor pleb. Goblin's don't get taken care of for farm villages. It's not a problem in big cities because they have garrisons. Adventurers don't take care of them in less important villages because they don't get paid well for it, and there is no glory in it. Therefore people take these creatures far less seriously than they should.
goblin slayer is a horrible show pls stop watching it past the 1st episode
@@marcy1442 that sounds like something a GOBLIN would say...
@@kyzorend.tirrem4457 More like someone who couldn't take the rape scenes I imagine. I still remember the outrage Game of Thrines caught back when that one scene happened
I say we make a wall around our village and make the goblins pay for it!
Hamarbi Ljungskile let’s make fantasy great again!
@@spartancraig6000 Let the world tremble as it senses all we are about to accomplish! Reeeeeeeee!
Tell me.......How well do you think that'll work?
@@recklessabandon5678 We did that to the fairies fifty years back. Can you see any today? No? You're welcome!
Adventurer: "You're just saying that to justify a tax on adventuring loot!"
Please, do a part 2 of this kind of stuff... We Need IT!
I'm making a D&D campaign, your videos are helping out so much to make it interesting with homebrew rules, monsters, and general mechanics!
Food is not created by magic in Harry Potter. Magic only conjure the pre made food (cooked by the elves, in Hogwarts case).
But we got your point =)
Danilo Téo food teleportation would be amazing regardless, saves time in transportation and storage
@@Audiotrocious though truth be told, in the Harry Potter series it is only being transported up 1 floor. The house elves set it out on tables exactly underneath the ones in the main hall and then it get transported straight up through the floor. So it may be limited in the distance it can travel, and how it can travel
But still amazing.
It does actually.
The only real cap is the amount of time you can do so through replication.
@@Lithiticus There is a teleportation spell widely used in Harry Potter, that seems to have no limitation !!
@@QazwerDave Are you referring to disaparating and aparating? They do have limitations. Users can splice themselves, also places can be shielded against it. (Like the Hogwarts grounds) The other form is flumes, and that requires a fireplace.
To be fair: we don't hunt animals that kill and eat humans out of vindictiveness. We do it because normally, most predators do not consider humans a viable food source.
Predators have to expend a lot of energy to hunt down prey in the wild, and so they are opportunistic and conservatives. They eat what they can get their paws on as easily and with as little energy expended as possible.
Now being humans, we're pretty weak. We can't run as fast as most predators. We're not as strong as most predators. And on our own we have a great difficulty defending ourselves against wild predators unless we're armed with firearms.
So if you let just a single predator realize that lone humans are easy pickings as a food source, then you're inviting further attacks from that predator in the future.
By leaving that predator to live, you'll alter it's normal behaviour in avoiding humans to start seeking out humans. And this might potentially rub off on it's offspring as well.
So if you've got a "maneater" on your hands, then you have to hunt it down quickly or else it will go after other members of your human community in the future.
We used to kill animals that ate humans of vindictivness. The reason that most modern animals don't consider humans food is that we killed those that did.
If we kill the animals that attack humans, we have the chance that their "human attacking" genes will never be passed on, if they are killed before getting offspring. I might misread your comment, but it seems like you are taking a stance that nurture has more effect, even over several generations, than nature, even for predatory animals. I don't think science back that opinion.
But odds are, if they're strong and skilled enough to hunt and kill humans, they would most likely be successful enough to mate and have offspring. Those genes would still be out there.
@@KickyFut Not really though most grizzlies are strong enough to kill humans, that doesn't mean most do. Also some of the most infamous man eating lions were wounded weaklings among their kind so...
@@KickyFut It's far more about behaviour than genetics.
I'm glad to say I just ordered your book :) I look forward to reading it
Another potential point of food production: The monsters themselves. Unless they're supernatural monsters, or unless they have rather disgusting meat, the monsters themselves could provide a source of sustenance for outlying settlements.
eh i dont think a 3 headed chimera meat can be a source of sustenance
hehe. I forgot the title, but there's a web comic where goblins started a restaurant serving Hydra meat. And it's just the one Hydra, because what they cut off to cook will grow back.
Not necessary food. Materials also. Venoms, poisons, skin, bones, glands, diferent substances. Also inspiration for innovation. When we want to live, we humans tend to be very inventive. Maybe something like man-made flametrowers from existing natural dragon ones .
I recently started running my first full campaign of "The Mines of Phandelver" for a couple of friends who've never played D&D before, including my wife. I'm going to spin this concept into the campaign. Thanks Shad!
My world can create food, but only a little. The priests run the equivalent of soup kitchens.
Do they have bread as well?
Where do they get the food
Jacob M. Magic
@@LibertyLocalizer Ah yes, Magic
Just finished your book and I loved it! It was the most entertaining book I've read in a long time. Possibly ever
One of my favorite castles (idiotic/fort) in tabletop RPGs is the one first encountered in Pathfinder's 'Kingmaker'. It is a humble wooden fort out at the outskirts of a kingdom. It has since fallen into disuse by the kingdom (hopefully to use something more practical) and is presently serving as a trading post. The basic structure remains with ten foot high falls and fifteen high foot turrets. The area is a cold area known for bandits, various swamp creatures, trolls, giants and centaurs.
That all said the fort is kinda good at its job. Being wood it will last much longer in the cold as most fire breathing creatures are found someplace hot and avoid the cold. This also makes it cheaper to replace. Being on a relative hill gives Centaurs trouble and the fort (pretending to be a castle) is effective against anything man sized. The Stolen Lands (the wilderness its on the border of) lacks a central unified force (beyond a bandit lord) so it does not need to stop an army or even a warband. The problem is the ten foot high wall. Trolls won't even need to go on their tippy toes to be eye level with the defenders and can pluck them right off the walls. Giants can even look down at the defenders (smaller giants are troll sized) and so for an area known for monsters and fire wielding bandits I found the fort to be a bit of a joke.
in D&D, you NEVER want to siege a castle full of clerics. They will never run out of food, and are extremely capable fighters with their divine attacks, healing, and utility magic. Can you imagine trying to attack a stronghold of an order of Tempest clerics? By Kord, you'd never even reach the front gate!
No, you know who you _really_ don't want to piss off? An entire fortress cathedral dedicated to Sarenrae... Bolts of Solar Plasma literally raining from the sky... You're going to have a bad day.
Now imagine those clerics are of evil alignment and have used dominate spells on an army of trolls, or have "hired" by creating massive amounts of food. Even if you deplete all available resources to make alchemist fire and acid you not going to kill more than maybe a handful of trolls due to the clerics healing any damage their regen can't take care of.
@@DarkBattleMage0407 If that's the case, you just call on that guy with an army of liches. The Chill Touch cantrip prevents ALL healing, and thus allows you to completely nullify the troll army with a few targeted AOE spells and a bunch of cantrips. Then, it's just a matter of the evil clerics themselves. See, the issue with evil is that it doesn't work well with itself. So if you can create discord within the keep, say, create a power struggle; then you can weaken them from the inside while you dig under the keep with Move Earth. It's not rocket science; It just takes ingenuity.
@@CanisMythson The same ingenuity can be used by the evil clerics, also how can you trust the guy who has an army of liches not to be in league with the evil clerics?
I mean I was in this forum based d&d game where all us players who didn't agree with the DM's girlfriend got to play the villains of that campaign, it was her attempt to have her revenge on all the times we ruin her "twilight" based campaigns.
We all could only imagine the look on her face when it was revealed my character, who was a lich, had manipulated her and her little party to kill all the other villains and hand me the very means of becoming that world's God of Magic. As reward I "gifted" her the immortality of a zombie miner.
I still wonder was it the fact I had manipulated her Lawful Good Rogue to deliver the very thing that would "doom" the world or the fact her "vengeance" killings were only made possible because I had provided her and her party armor and weaponry designed to overcome my fellow villains armies.
@@DarkBattleMage0407 The fortress falls in under 50 Days. Evil's biggest problem is and always has been that its people will sell each other out for personal gain. Good won't do that, because Good has morals, Good's code is engaged from within not enforced from without.
Are there machicolations in your book? Otherwise it might be a no-go for me lol
Only one way to find out..😁
Will there be any flubber in this book?
I think you meant MACHICOLSTIOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNS
@Naren Gurrier-Jones yes, becuase flying types are weak to rock, (obiously)
These videos really help with my worldbuilding for a campaign I'm working on. They really help flesh out the world more and make it feel more like like a real place and not just a setting for a game.
Thanks Shad! I'm writing a small fantasy piece and I found this video really helpful!
The D&D world of Eberron was designed with this in mind. Magic has become an almost industrial thing.
I think that in most D&D settings magic blends well with the medieval theming, because it is not hard magic. The concept of spell slots makes it very limited, and usually spellcasters are said to be kinda rare. The easiest way of becoming a spellcaster is by spending pretty much your whole fucking life studying, and even if you manage to do so, there is even less chance that you will come to be a high level one.
@@samuelaraujomedeiros6682 In every magic system I know of in role-playing games, huge amounts of studies are required to be able to do even simple magic. Usually, it is easier to make technical inventions. But when magic comes at a high level (which is almost impossible for a human being), it becomes mighty if used intelligently. That level would probably be so uncommon that it only has local significance and society as a whole is almost unaffected.
@@niklasmolen4753 Not in D&D. Well, I said that in D&D the easiest way to become a spellcaster is to spend your whole life studying, but that's just the easiest, most sensible and most expontaneous way. But there's other paths. You can be a sorcerer, for example, someone who is simply born with magic in them. Like an anime protagonist. You could also be a paladin or cleric, who are people chosen by the gods and draw their magic power from their faith or a sacred oath. Warlocks make pacts with higher, magical beings called patrons. There's also bards, who make magic through music, and druids, who tap in the magic essence of Nature. All this classes (except paladins, who are kind of a hybrid class) can have very deep impacts in the world. Once they get acces to lvl 9 spells, things get a little out of scale. There's even a spell that lets you tap into the fabric of reality itself, its called wish.
@@samuelaraujomedeiros6682 I have never played D&D and am not familiar with the rules. Druids and Barder with such opportunities for magic clearly have an impact on the development of society (I think I have a clue how powerful magic they have access to).
But recurring to many games is that high-level magic and being God are almost the same thing.
Samuel Araújo Medeiros IDK how well you know Eberron, but this is sort of the case. Actual wizards, sorcerers, etc. Of the class verity are stated to be rare in setting. The higher proliferation of magic comes from many things. It's straight up more common/is said to permiate the world. The 12 dragonmarked houses that have magic birthmarks that let them basically function as continent wide guilds that are able to provide both mundane and magical services. the presence of artificers who basically treat arcane magic as a science and specialize in crafting magic items. Magical dragonshards that preform a verity of functions. Magewright npcs who are crafters that learn a small selection of general spells, notibly the magecraft spell, which let's them make high quality goods both easier and faster. There aren't like 20th level wizards around eather. The only npc explicitly capable of casting a True Resurrection spell, for instance, is the current Voice of The Silver Flame, and she's only that powerful when inside the cathedral that houses the Silver Flame itself.
TL;DR Eberron has many low level casters, but but high level and especially high level PC class casters are rare.
With your unique view on world building (judging off of your fantasy videos) I look forward to the book
I really like the way magic works in the Eragon books. Everything you do with magic consumes as much energy as you would need to do it without magic. You can bind a magic effect to an object like whriting a programm to a computer and store energy in gems. The purer the gem, the more energy it can hold.
Very insightful. Just bought your book, can't wait for it to be delivered.