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Shimano SPD Pedal Overhaul - Clean/Lube/Install New Bearings
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- čas přidán 23. 09. 2014
- I show how to service Shimano SPD bike pedals (disassemble, clean, replace ball bearings, grease, re-assemble). The bearings are 3/32 inch size, and each pedal takes 24 of them. This pedal seemed kind of rough when turning. I probably could have just adjusted the cone on the bearings, but decided to to an overhaul instead.
The mini grease gun I use in the video is made by Dualco.
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I disassembled my pedals and forgot how to put all parts back. Your video helped. Thanks!
Thank you for taking the time to make and share this video!
After watching I feel courageous enough to try this myself for the first time.
I managed to screw up and get all the 3/32" bearings everywhere. Using your video I quickly got it all sorted. Excellent and thank you. Very clear, very easy to follow.
Very helpful video, good pace and explanation. Two XT pedals now rebuilt with new bearings, super smooth and no play. Thank you 👍
Great video thanks. With your help I just serviced my m520's after my lbs mechanic said they cannot be serviced. They are good as new now.
Greg Georgalli
Your LBS should have been honest and said that the labor costs that they would charge you is the cost or more than a new set of M520/M540 pedals, about $50 or less from an online store.
@@newttella1043 Especially since there are people, like me, who would rather them be serviced than buy new again. It isn't always about money, but it is just more of a reason to learn how to do this stuff yourself.
This was an excellent video. It showed exactly what to do in a concise yet detailed way.
You just save me !! I had torn appert everything as usual and was confused putting everything back ! 😂
This is what i needed!
My pedals started creaking at every hard pedal stroke, so i think they have to be overhauled.
Thank you very much for the explanation ;)
Also check the cleat mechanism on the pedal as that can cause creaking if the bolts aren't tight.
HTH
I’ve had 3 pairs of M520s that I’ve thrown away and replaced and wasted money thinking I couldn’t rebuild them. I could have bought a pair of XTs for how many sets I’ve bought through the years and am considering buying some right now BUT, I’m gonna try to rebuild my existing M520s before I do that. Thanks for the great tutorial! I already ordered the pedal tool.
So far the best tutorial for servicing shimano pedals.
You rule !
Thanks. Just did this job. I reused the bearings. I did most of the reassembly in the magnetic parts bowl so no bearings escape.
RJ the Bike Guy: Thanks for this tutorial - I had the right pedal axle threads for the crank arm go bad on my Shimano PD A-600 SPD / Road pedals and looked long and far for a replacement without luck. (Shimano has since replaced these pedals with a cheaper version.) After watching this video, I disassembled an old pair of MTB pedals and found that axle and other internal guts were interchangeable except the plastic 16 nub thingy but since I re-used my aluminum sleeve w/ hex nut it was not a problem. Now I'm up and pedaling again, no money expended, a great learning experience - keep up the good work.
Thanks! Just finished a 4 day ride on the GAP. Towards the end I noticed my right pedal needing attention. And since I work in a bike shop I snuck up today and grabbed the bearings!!
best bike repair videos on youtube! thanks again
Thanks for the video. I didn't have the grey plastic tool but found that a Stilson Wrench from my plumbing toolkit worked just fine.
I just had a clicking sound on my right peddle on my Damone and that had to take my peddle apart and clean it. I found this video to see exactly how hard it was.. I wish I would have done it myself now.. lol but good video I learned a lot..
Thanks!!! I couldn't have assembly the ball bearings without your instructions
Thanks, I needed to know how many bearings went on the upper/lower, inner/outer sections perfect video.
the best way to adjust cup& cone type bearings is to start off with some play,and tighten in small increments until there is JUST no play. because there can be play in the threads, it's important to check for play when the lock nuts are tightened onto the cones.
Thanks for the great video. I purchased new Axles and the ball bearing had me stumped until I watched this!
you really don't need new axle or bearings. these can be used until they break in half. all you have to do is readjust the bearings.
@@brucewayne3141 Upgraded the Axles to Ti. When I pulled everything apart I was confused as to why it was all 'loose' and how to get it back together.
Thank you for the video.
I just did the exact same service following your instructions!!
Another excellent video RJ. I have found your videos extremely useful in helping me in my bike maintenance and repair activities. Thank you
Thanks for the video. My Shimano pd-m520 pedals on my road bike feel a bit funky (think the bearings are gone) and now I how to overhaul them properly. Better then buying new ones as they scuff immediately. By the way, no one sees how scuffed up your pedals are when you're riding. Great info. Thanks again.
Great breakdown of setting bearing tension.
After the spindle with the bearings and races is removed from the cage, it seems to me that it would be easy to soak it in kerosene or alcohol for a while to clean out all of the old grit and grease. Soak, shake, empty, repeat, dry and then reassemble with grease. Maybe that is overkill but it would be easy to do.
Hello RJ, my master,
I didn't have to use vise, instead, used my foot~
almost tightening the bearings feels really good like new~
good for brushing up on forgotten skills
THANK YOU AND GOD I BOUGHT A RB SHIMANO PEDALS CLEATS PEDAL ACTUALLY AND IT HAS AN ISSUE THE HEARING IS OR THE WHOLE BEARING LIKE THE SPINDLE I THINK IS WIGLING LIKE CRAZY SO I BOUGHT EM A TRIED TO FIX EM AND VUWALA IT WAS FIX TRIED IT. AND YEAH THXXXXXXXX U DONT KNOW HOW HAPPY I AM
Worked like dream but my old XT pedals had total 20 bearings in there
Awesome, thanks for sharing! Great explanation and still relevant 8y later! Cheers
Hello everyone. I tried this on my pedals Shimano XTR M9000, and although fit, there is a small play in one of them. I think it's because of a small break in one of the race of the bearings. Very useful video
If the race has a crack, then it's probably time to replace the pedal.
Yeah, i think so. Bad news, they cost about 85 euro... remain whith my XT...
Thanks! This is correct for the PDA600's also, but they do not require the stupid plastic tool :)
All perfect.. I do believe Shimano suggest less grease than you applied.. The excess ejected shows the amount you overdid it... For the price of bearings and the time and effort needed I would suggest changing bearings at the same time as these demount servicing..
I managed to disassemble the pedal cartridge and i found out that the bearing balls are crushed and it ate the cone and the nylon bushing inside so I just replaced with another sealed bearing pedal axle cartridge from another pedal but thanks to this video I found out about it too bad the cartridge is shot tho.
Really helpful tutorial. Thanks
Excellent video. Just what I needed.
When you took it apart I noticed hairs in the top bearings.
In my experience this causes roughness/notchyness in the pedal.
HTH
thanks for your help i have a pedal slack... maybe the nut are not well tight :)
without the right tools and a vice this job is next to impossible
Brilliant vid i have the same pedals this is a big help
Great item very Portable and easy to clean.
Very helpful, thanks for posting!
Awesome video. I have a bunch of PD-A520;s, and I assume they are the same spindle style? One of my sets was loose at the spindle when I bought them(used) and I will now crack it open and replace the bearings and set the tension on them. Thanks!
Great video interesting
Thank you, very helpful video
massive help!
Thank you
Should the plastic piece be able to move a bit along the spindle shaft? I couldn't get mine together without it having that little bit of movement, so figured I had it wrong. But no amount of tightening down on the bearings will eliminate it.
So I took the spindle out of the body of my other pedal which I have not done anything to yet, and that plastic bit moves back and forth along the spindle also. The movement is along the spindle shaft, not a back and forth rocking.
Thanks for the video. It looks like the same instruction goes for any SPDs (except that more expensive have a 17mm nut instead of that proprietary plastic one). Even SPD-SL (road variant) has basically the same axle assembly. BTW, can you do a video on overhauling (or disassembly) of the clipping mechanism?
I don’t think it’s a really good idea to disassemble the clip mechanism, there’s a pretty powerful spring in there and you’d have a heck of a time trying to reassemble it.
My bearings are in good shape, but they somehow got magnetized! Now trying to get them assembled is like an Abbott and Costello routine with me playing both parts. 😅 Aside from getting new bearings, do you have any suggestions?
Muy buena explicación. Excelent
Great video, it really helped me with an old pair of Shimano PD-1056 pedals. By the way, do you know if it's possible to completely disassemble the cleat system? I have this old pair and the paint is damaged. I would like to sandblasting the aluminium body, but apparently the axle for the cleat system was introduced without intension of being ever removed... Greatings from Germany.
Nice work
Super video ! 👍
Lembra bastante meu começo kkkkk
Very useful video, thanks! The process is very straightforward, however I am running into some issues during reassembly. I am servicing Shimano PD-6800 pedals and have cleaned and regreased them. Have adjusted the bearings in the vise and they feel perfect, run smoothly and no movement. However, when I reassemble the pedal unit, somehow there is some pressure being created on the bearings, so they become very stiff and can hardly turn. I have tried backing-off the pressure on the cones, but then when I reassemble the pedals, there is movement in the axle, so obviously its too loose. Any ideas what the cause of this may be?
You need to adjust them somewhere between those two points.
Hi, thanks for the video!
Do you have any suggestion for my problem? On my SPD-SL Ultegra R8000 i wanted to regrease them, because they were spinning too freely. Left pedal was fine, change the grease.. works great. The right pedal when the spindle is out it spins absolutely free without any rough feel, but when I screw the axle in so it is almost at the end, the spindle starts to turn very rough and hard. It feels like something in the pedal body is blocking the spindle to turn smoothly. I cleaned the body about 1000times, tried more grease, less grease but nothing changes. Do you think, that the body could be damaged when using too much grease? It happened at some point, when I was pushing the old grease out with screwing the axle in.. I´ve never seen anything like this, did many pedals in the past with this method and all works fine.
Thanks in advance!
Hello, RJ. Thanks for posting this helpful overhaul. What grease do you use or recommend for this type of application?
Julian Deocampo Marine grease.
Thank you very much
Can you do a road bikes pedal next ?
Will 3mm bearing will be the same for 3/32" ???
I just want to check again what size bearings to use..... It never fails I always loose one :)
Robert Schulz 3/32". But double check to make sure yours are the same size.
Great video RJ!
Do you know how to disassembly when the plastic part is broken? My spd pedal has broken the plastic teeth where the key pd40 seat.
If the part is broken, probably replace the pedal.
@@RJTheBikeGuy oh.. at least i will try make a tool to remove the plastic bolt without broke it.
Thanks for reply!
@@RJTheBikeGuy nvm, i use a wrench and a vise and it worked just fine. Now lubricate and use it again! :D
@@Franadorable hey, I have kind of the same problem as you. My plastic part is very worn out but i think that i Will be able to open the pedals. The question is, did you fabricate this piece? Bought it new?
Greetings from Argentina
@@francogalinacumar8196 Franco, if you can keep the piece, so the exterior part is only worn out. If the piece is destroyed then replace it. I don't think that plastic screw can be fabricated, and if you can it would be more expensive than buy another one new.
If you can, buy it new
What is the name of the screw? To unscrew the cleats pedal
Rj The Bike Guy can i ask what is the size of the ball bearing?
did this on a spyral pedal, with SPD on one side. I found a broken washer (??) inside, between the two bearings inside its housing. Could barely remove it. Hope the squeeking noise goes away, but it seems that my crankarm is giving up on me :S :-(
At 5:50 you hit on the key to these pedals: plastic. It just so happens that the big plastic part there is also a load bearing piece. It's absolutely shameful that these were built this way. It's an otherwise pretty decent design and I have to imagine that the corners were cut for sheer expense.
Good video and pretty good instructions. But I honestly have no idea how anyone could get to the point of rebuilding these before the plastic parts wear out. I have had two sets of these (my mistake) and in both cases the big plastic part wears so severely that it just grinds on the shaft of the pedal. *And*, that big plastic part is what holds the whole shaft into the pedal casing. It's really shoddy and truly shameful. Another 12 cents and they could have made that part aluminum or another alloy.
And for another buck or two those could be sealed cased bearings.
I was stunned when I took these apart the first time to find just how poorly they are made.
I have A530's with the same type of spindle/axle, with over 13,500 miles on them. I've cleaned them a couple of times and replaced the bearings once, but they're certainly not worn out. I need to clean them again but they're still doing pretty good.
Thanks 👍
Any video on how to clean the cleat cage on such spd pedals that went rusting from winter roads full of salt? Its small problem, wont affect performance, just looks bad.
Scrub them with soap and water, and use Evaporust for the rust.
RJ When you say marine grease do you mean the stuff they sell in auto stores for boat trailer wheel bearings? There may be parts of the country where marine stuff is hard to come by.The boat trailer stuff is not supposed to wash away with water easily, Boat trailers are very hard on wheel bearing they are often driven for hundreds of miles and then dunked in water without being allowed to cool down so the grease for them is pretty durable stuff.
+Peter Jack It is marine grade grease. Yes, it doesn't break down when exposed to water where general purpose grease will.
great vid
what is the size of the bearing
thank you
Why so much difference in grease amount before and after? Is it ok?
Hi RJ, despite your excellent video (that I watched after I broke my pedal) I have managed to sheer off the plastic sleeve. Do you know a way to remove it from the pedal now that I turns both ways by hand? I have found somewhere that sells new plastic sleeves but can't work out how to disassemble the pedal. Any thoughts?
Not really. You are just have to figure it out. You might as well try something as the pedal isn't working now. And they aren't too expensive.
RJ The Bike Guy if I work something out, I'll let you know.
have you found a solution? ive sheared of both sides on an old pair of mine
Where to buy overhaul
Parts ? Please ?
what size are the ball bearings?
hello is the same size ball bearing 3/32 inside pedale shimano 9000 ? is there differehte quality on bal bearing?
What size bearings are used if new are needed?
You need to measure what are in your pedal. This pedal had 3/32" bearings. Yours may be different.
@@RJTheBikeGuy My pedals are M770's. I'm actually surprised I can't find a rebuild kit for them, as it should be straightforward. Especially the rubber seal seems a little worn!
@@RJTheBikeGuy I'm pretty sure ALL shimano spd's run 3/32. I just replaced the ones in my DX SPD M647. Have yet to find any documentation or occurrence of non 3/32 in spd shimano pedals.
Really struggling getting the spindle back into the pedal. I can thread the silver plastic sleeve into the pedal body very easily, but once I assemble everything, it is very difficult and the pedal does not spin at all. I am at a loss as to what step I missed.
I am guessing you didn;t get the cone/lock nut adjusted correctly.
Great video nice to know you can repair your pedal didn't even know that was an option Thanks for that anyway :) Am what's the name of the tool you used to spin out the axle, I have a set of mtb pedals running fine but would prefer to have the right tools for the day come's to sorting that out :)
Shimano TL-PD40 Pedal Axle Removal Tool.
Thanks very much your absolutely legend you are :)
1 of my pedals ended up being almost completely perfect, the second one though I can still feel a bit of play (not much though). Not sure if I should try and redo it or may it be caused by worn out gasket because that's that plastic collar that moves. Pedals are really old, 9 years I think, but on the other hand I ride rarely the last 3-4 years, only maybe 1000km every year.
The adjustment part takes a bit of practice and tweaking.
I got the same problem! Play from the black plastic/nylon lock bolt (5:50 in video). The play is not from the 7mm and 10mm adjustment - tried overtightening it and set into the pedal but got play from the black lock bolt. I'm gonna try add a spacer see if it works.
Sir what is the size of ball bearing?
Mine had 3/32" bearings. I don't know what YOURS has.
Hi. RJ, what is the size of the bearing?
Mine were 3/32 inch.
My left pedal (Shimano XTR TRAIL)doesn't have the 8mm jam nut, but the right pedal does. Is this normal?
Not that I know of.
how about servicing shimano m505 pedals?
They would similar to these. czcams.com/video/n9D16t8WK00/video.html
cool!
Hello anyone knows where can I buy the bearings?
www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00HMZY9XK/ref=nosim/youtube25-20
Are there other tools we can use aside from the TL-PD40? I got a shimano 105 5700 pedal i want to regrease. We’re still on lockdown where i’m from and i can’t order one, bike shops are still closed and only essential items are allowed for delivery.
Not really. Not Amazon, not ebay?
@@RJTheBikeGuy No. They only allow food delivery, groceries, medicine, essential stuff. I ordered a bar tape a few days before the March 17 lockdown. It still hasn't arrived and it's almost 2 months now. We're not even allowed to bike here, only for bike to work.
@@leftyseel8658 Then you might have to wait. Or figure out how to make a tool. Here, bikes are considered transportation, which is essential, so essential workers can get to their essential jobs if they need to.
I my case, after servicing shimano Ultegra pedals, after I put axle back to pedal, one of the pedals doesn´t spin smooth anymore, I set up bearings well, this is not problem. Any ideas, why did it happen ?
I don't know you mean by spin smooth. If you mean rough, then the bearings may be too tight. If you mean you spin it and it stops soon. that is just the grease. That resistance won't be felt while riding.
Hi just wondering where you buy replacement ball bearings and cones? I have some shimano spin bike clip/clipless combo pedals for spin bikes needing new bearings. I service spin bikes all the time and it seems wasteful to throw otherwise good pedals in the garbage....I have no idea where to find part numbers or parts for these...google search did not turn up any good results....
Rick Couture Not sure where or if you can get cones. I buy bags of bearings. Here are some on Amazon: www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B006PQ8EBA/ref=nosim/youtube25-20
Get bearings intended for bikes, or grade 25 bearings.
RJ The Bike Guy thanks, i havent pulled them apart yet, but i found parts diagram for the M324 clip/clipless and the local bike shop said their distributor doesnt have it. didnt offer to order or get me a price...called shimano and they confirmed parts available but cannot sell direct to consumer....really pisses me off that bike shops arent willing to support products, they'd rather take the greedy route and sell a whole new set of pedals while i may now have to throw out these pedals...grrr. sorry just ranting.
RJ The Bike Guy are the cones usually intact and good? these pedals are totally loose and floppy....guessing all the balls fell out. spin bikes take a lot of sweat and abuse...
Usually, cleaning, lube, replacing the bearings, and getting the cones adjusted does the trick.
Would this work for m980 pedals?
+Mike Suarez Maybe. You can try it.
Assuming your bearings are ok, a quicker way to do this is:
1. Remove spindle assembly and clean any excess grease off with a clean rag.
2. Clean out pedal body with tissues and brake clean.
3. Squeeze and inch of grease into pedal body.
4. Bang end of pedal body on hard surface so the grease goes to the bottom of the hole.
5. Reassemble the pedal and clean off squeezed out grease.
Because all the new grease gets forced right through the bearing assembly, all the old grease will be flushed out and the bearing will be surrounded by new grease.
At what point in your steps are you installing new bearings? Did you actually watch/listen to the video? What do I say in the first 10 seconds of the video? Go back and rewatch.
If your bearings are good, you can do that way. But remember, there are two rows of bearings, second row of bearings will get all the dirt from first row bearings and chances are, your new grease wont even get to second row bearings that way. Also some dirt and metal will still stay at balls and only way to clean that out, is full disasembly and cleaning piece by piece. Did that work today and guess what, no grease came out from the assembly despite massive ammount of grease i put in there. Better clean once and properly than change parts or full assembly just because cone surfaces are damaged beyond repair. Luckily my pedals were in pristine condition from inside after running over 20 000km without cleaning pedal insides. Cage is just rusty a bit from winter salts but that doesnt affect performance.
Can you disassemble the pedal with the pd-40 tool? Can you use the round end of a regular wrench?
??? I use the PD-40 tool in the video, so yes you can use it. No, cannot use a regular wrench unless you want to screw up the pedal.
Sorry I meant to ask can you disassemble it without the tool.
The tool is only about $5 on ebay.
Yes, but sadly the shipping cost and taxes will cost more the tool as I live outside the US. I am still waiting if the LBS here can get one. I just wanted to change the grease on my new pedals as I never liked the stock grease they use. Anyway thanks, and keep up the good job on these videos. I love how detailed you go through these.
I have used the box end of a wrench to disassemble SPD pedals. Just be certain of which way to turn the wrench. The "nut" is plastic and easy to ruin with very little force.
Where i can buy that special tools
www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001GSMPUS/ref=nosim/youtube25-20
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could i do this with my m520's?
+Living Life Probably.
RJ The Bike Guy
watched your video, i am having trouble putting springs back in my pedals[tension spring] any idea
I don't think I have encountered pedals with springs in them.
they are by your right thumb at 0:12 under the - + plate underneath
Those springs. I thought you meant inside the pedal with the bearings or something related to the video.
no LOL nothing to do with the bearings, i can't find any youtube videos,showing that [the mechanism any suggestions
Size po ng bearing?