All Manner Of Trains
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- Made by The Commonwealth Film Unit 1962. Directed by Malcolm Otton. All Manner of Trains provides an overview of Australia's railways in the early 1960s, before gauges across the country were standardised. The first section takes the form of a travelogue: from Cairns to Brisbane on the Sunlander, to Sydney on the Brisbane Limited then the Daylight Express to the border and the Spirit of Progress to Melbourne. The Overland to Adelaide is followed by the Port Pirie Express and the Transcontinental to Kalgoorlie before boarding the Westland for Perth. The second section looks at other significant lines and services - cross-country, interurban and suburban - and stresses the importance of the rail network to Australia's rural areas and to the nation's progress.
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Can you imagine if the railways were still operating to the same methods and processes today as they were when this film was put together, absolutely mind blowing film this one, great stuff.
I've seen some comb-overs in my time, but George's is on another level.
How I’d love to step back to that time in Australia’s history
Just take away digital tech. You can still live that way, although
it is more difficult.
Malcolm Otton had an exceptional eye for a vivid image. When retired, a painter in naive style.
This, my Australian friends, is why I love trains more than trucks. Hard work, brothers, hard work is what shaped this country, not drugs and stupidity.
Governments seem hell bent on NOT having more rail.
I wish there was light rail in WA, i'd use it all the time
@@standupstraight9691 Yes they'd rather clog up the highways with massive trucks driven by drivers high on no doze drugs because they're given impossible schedules so they can make more profits for shareholders and management. When instead they could use freight trains. Except they've closed down most of the old country train lines. One day I'm going to find an old train carriage and put it on my property.
@@SamStone1964 Why Not use more Truck Motorail services like the CR had? Just because the Eyre Highway is fully sealed, doesn't mean we should bring more trucks onto it.
Pity no mention is made in summary above of the the "Tasman Limited" passing through farmland near Deloraine in northern Tasmania featuring briefly at 1m 33s mark. It ran for 24 years 1954-78 from Hobart to Western Junction with a feeder service into nearby Launceston. It continued west to Deloraine and onto Devonport then along Bass Strait coast terminating on North West coast at Wynyard. Is sadly missed by passenger rail fans here in Tassie.
True shame.
a large bit of nostalgia absolutly brilliant looking at how the railways worked then and now
Very cool video! Great historical perspective. As a Yank I'm very interested in Australian railways, and this footage is priceless, seeing the various ways that breaks in gauge were handled. Also loved seeing the Magnetic Signal Co. wig-wags around 28:20. I have a copy of a Magnetic Signal Co.(based in Los Angeles) wig-wag brochure from the 1920's that states that their products were being purchased by Australian railways, and there is the evidence. Thanks for posting this.
I have a photo here of Chanters Lane level crossing 13 February 1974. This was on the line from Carlsruhe to Daylesford in Victoria. And supposed to be the last operating wig wag signal at the time. It was replaced soon after with the regular post with bell and flashing lights.
Got to love history and if it weren't for CZcams (or any other platform like it) we'd probably never be able to see this footage. It would have essentially been lost. So happy to hear how YT has helped someone.
Great documentary on the Commonwealth Railways of Australia very informative on a bygone era of Railway travel!🙂🚂🚇🚆🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🛤️🏜️🐰🐇🐪🇦🇺
@PanAm812 Hi - Glad you enjoyed the nostalgia express. It's great when people connect to our old films like that. We still have some train videos to post so please keep watching. This video is available on DVD by contacting us at on the FAC library link on the channel page. Just tell them what you are after and they will make it up for you.
A good film showing some of Australia's Rail History!
Me and my Dad used to watch this when I was little. Those memories. 😌
I wouldn't say the narration was "corny", actually it was quite straight-forward and simple. It was a good example of how narration should be done for films or videos on any subject.
Yes.
The simpler, straight-forward "matter-of-fact" style of documentary narration is sadly lost in the 21st century. For all the whiz-bang technology we have, digital video cameras, computer-based editing and what-have-you, the art of good documentary-making is lost. It's only when you view productions like this, made at a time long before all that whiz-bang technology was even thought of, that you can learn how to do it(make video documentaries, on any subject) properly.
@Aiden Teszke, thanks for your support. Cheers!
@Roy Sage, thanks for the comments! Yeah, they just don't make 'em like they used to!
@Roy Sage, While I've thanked you for the comment, I should point out that this is a 1950s or 1960s era doco on trains. There's no politics involved here, either the black-armband view of indigenous history or climate science or anything else, we're just reminiscing about the bygone days of quality documentary production.
THANK YOU FOR VIDEO OF HISTORY IN AUSTRALIA RAILWAYS
Interesting to see the footage of the track maintenence towards the end before the days of modern OH&S. No hearing protection or high visibility clothing, and much more manual labour
Thanks for your comments. We are glad you enjoyed it. Please have a look at our other great railway films in our On The Rails playlist. We have more to come as well. So please keep watching.
Glad to see WA's Australind train from Perth to Bunbury got a brief exposure. A very enjoyable service still running, travelling thorough nice farmland.
I've been on the Australian and me and my gf at the time lost our tickets and they were good enough to reissue us with new ones!
I watched this when I was kid long ago
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. Please have a look at our On The Rails playlist for more train and railway films.
Oh Boy , this brings back old memories of a by gone age, enjoyed it very much for sure
You can certainly get a taste of what train travel was like before the Indian Pacific, XPT and many other modern services were introduced, in the old days, you had to do it tough and change trains wherever was the break of gauge point, but it shows now what a clever move it was to standardize track gauge and eliminate changing trains anymore. Great stuff.
What great memories. My 1st train ride was from Syd to Bris on a steam Brisbane 1st divvy . Hauled by steam loco's What a great ride.
Visited the Thirlmere rail museum last weekend, what a wonderful rail time warp the museum is. I’m sure some of these old girls are there.
This has to be the best video I have seen of what rail travel used to be I however think the video does not give any indication ot the length of time each journey takes my grandpa used to travel Melbourne to Sydney and he always complained how long the trip took and cursed the break at about 3AM to wake up get all his stuff together cross over to the other side of the platform at Albury and then try to get back to sleep on the Sydney train
Today, we have the twice daily XPT services between Melbourne and Sydney. The service is quite ordinary overall, and, sadly, due to poor track conditions between Melbourne and Albury the trains are usually late. All this would lead overseas travellers to argue that Oz is a third-world country.
WOW! Interesting how the world looked at itself at that time.
Adelaide's metro network (or Not-work, as seems to be the case) is still broad guage and the main line through is standard. Of course all of the country lines have been closed. Great to see classic Locos such as the GM class operating neraly new. Several are still operating 50 years later. Built for longevity!
Australian trains and railways used to have so much character! What a shame all that character is gone now.
Standardization is essential to modern railways, for example:
Only roller bearings are allowed on Class A railways so that a damaged axle can be replaced at any point.
Some character does live on in the Ghan, Indian pacific and spirit of the outback.
From what I've seen over the decades, compared to Can o' duh at least Australia has railways!
Yes, the character is gone, as you say, but efficiency now rules. More standard-gauge lines, from North to South and East to West. One may travel, for example, on GSR's "Indian Pacific" ex Sydney to Perth via Adelaide without changing en route.
You are welcome, glad you enjoyed it. See our Railways playlist for more trains. More to come too.
Beautiful high-quality footage. Love it.
Many thanks!
At 9 minutes and 56 seconds a flim is showing the Overland being hauled by a 900 hundred class diesel then it cuts to a driver blowing his whistle but the driver shown is at the controls of a "Red Hen " not a "900 " No its not a Blue Bird, as you can see there is a door frame in the frame. Still a gem this video, a begone era sadly .
We'll have to take your word for it as you obviously know your trains. Put it down to artistic license - or poor continuity. Thanks for the feedback.
Another error is at 16:21. The Ghan. The loco idle sound is probably correct. ( I've never heard a Sulzer engine) The NSU locos had a Sulzer engine, but when the loco is notching up the engine sound is GM Electromotive.
Great video.
It is a historical and geographical documents.
Thank you very much.
ARIGATOU.
Lol what you guys failed to conquer. Be mad.
Hi, thanks for the positive comment. We are glad you enjoyed the film. Please check out our On The Rails playlist for more great train and railway footage from the archive. We will be adding more too so please keep watching.
Just watched this at the QVMAG Museum in Launceston and thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks for posting it!
A great piece of history.....better known as "the good old days".....and that they were...life was simple back then......oops....I'm starting to sound like my parents!...lol
Thanks for uploading this, it was great to see.
This is quite an interesting video, I enjoyed watching this.
ah memories
Love the trains
22:15 Nice Garratt.
28:19 A wigwag.
"The Federal Government's "One Nation" project resulted in the broad gauge between Melbourne and Adelaide being standardised in June 1995. All mainland State capitals were directly connected by standard gauge! Ironically, this section was the first with a common gauge across a State border - opened in 1887."
So much for the claimed linking all capitals by 1967....
Loved it.
He also remembered being stuck on the Ghan for a week due to a line fault
the commentary is somewhat 'corny' by todays standards, but it is VERY enjoyable viewing with many trains now LONG GONE!
Yair, and a lot of them replaced by imported shit that does not fit platforms, go through tunnels and river ferries that don't pass under bridges. At least they ran on Aussie made rail from Port Kembla or Whyalla, unlike the Sydney light rail running on Korean jobs.
Commentary is very much post war Oz, much like cinema newsreels of the era. Our lingo was not as influenced by migration as per nowadays.
if any one is interested in our rail history please visit the NSW Rail Museum in Thirlmere NSW, a lot of old carriages and locomotives too see
'a new rail future for Australia'
It didn't last long. Look at the trains we have running between capital cities these days. The government should really invest in high speed rail. Great video anyway
Rail should never have been changed to road traffic. How quickly our once great rail system was ripped apart.
Interesting film
this service spirit of progress stopped running in 1986
Ah, the good old days of Australian transport long before I was even born.
Back when changing trains when entering a different state was the norm.
What nostalgia 😢😭
I think the horn at the beginning was a Wabco AA-2
A great historical Australian rail film. Unfortunately they were a bit optimistic in some of their predictions. Well worth viewing.
To think, Sydney and Perth would not be linked by Standard Gauge rail for another 8 years and it would take 42 before Darwin - and all capital cities - would be linked by SG rail.
Also, while inter-city electrication was very much the future at the time, ours in Victoria ultimately lasted until 1998 - at least, beyond Pakenham and suburban passenger services.
Our railways are fascinating like that!
That train referred to at the end of this video is called the *Indian Pacific* and begins its trip from Sydney.
The carriages looked more like Southern Aurora train, no skirts.
@@jimzafiriou7808 No skirts? Well, how about trousers? LOL😁
@@neilforbes416 lol
@@jimzafiriou7808 Thought you'd like that last joke!
The Indian Pacific also begins its' journey in Perth (return ticket also from Perth) but the train here is the Southern Aurora, Sydney to Melbourne. There is a distinct difference in length between the two, the IP usually having 28-30 carriages. If you stop the vision at 35:46 you can clearly see the naming on the side of the carriage.
I wonder what locomotive that was they were building in the workshop? It looked like one of the Clyde F7 derivatives.
Bit hard to tell, as the Vic Rail S class, Comm Rail GM class, and NSW railways 42 class all have a similar carbody. The loco could be any of the 3. The footage shows an Electromotive 567 V16 engine going in.
Given this was filmed in 1960 to 1962 its unlikey to be the NSWGR 42 class as these were built from 1955 to 1956. CR GM 21 was 1957 so too early and GM 22 July 62 so a bit late for the film. The Victorian Railways second batch of S310 to S317 were built from November 1960 to December 1961 is the best fit for the timeframe. At 14:28 we can see the holster cab windows at the non driving end. I believe the VR S class were the only loco to feature this at this stage. Some VR royal blue may be evident also. I think later Clyde F9 derivatives. Fits in with the new standard gauge emphasis of the film as these second order S class were ordered for the then new standard gauge Melbourne to Albury.
In the beginning, the Chief Engineer for NSW was Irish, and decided that the gauge should be 5'3". Given the distances involved, an entirely reasonable choice. SA and Victoria agreed. Then there was a dispute, and he resigned. His successor was English, and changed the gauge to 4'8". No one told the governments of the other states. I wonder if the change was discovered before the railways reached state borders...
Wikipedia for rail gauge Australia. Record that in 1857 John Whitton, the new south wales new chief engineer recommended NSW change back to the then Australian standard of 5ft 3in while it was simple to change just 23 miles of rail. So NSW knew the problem they created early on.
Much more broad gauge in Vic and SA at the time.
Slow communications by letter in 1850s Australia a big part of the problem, with orders already sent.
Still lots of bad political decisions made with railways even as I write this. Rarely get a positive return on vast amounts of public money that politicians and loud parts of the public delude themselves as being an investment.
@gedebage Hi glad you enjoyed the film. Contact details on the front page of our channel for DVD sales. Let me know if there is a problem.
20:08 A linked set of 60/70-class rail motors led by 607/707. 607 had the engine, 707 was the trailer. There are two more behind these but we may not get to see them or their numbers.
@Neil Forbes it be same as the first
What an excellent way to show your beautiful country through it's Rail System, even though it's the 1960's era, it still applies in 2013, the only difference being everything is now of the same gage, and modern technology has been vastly changed and improved. Really a great video!
Incorrect statement about everything being the same gauge.
See if I can get this Documentary on DVD!🤨🚆🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🛤️🏜️🐪🇦🇺🎞️🎬📽️🎥
@gedebage Hi glad you enjoyed the film. Contact mandy.mullen@nfsa.gov.au if you would like to get a DVD copy. If she can't help let me know.
Footage was filmed in 1960 or early 1961
Yes mostly, but some in 1962. As the standard gauge to Melbourne was "Thru in 62" as I remember from the photos of the S class loco banner breaking ceremony on the opening.
'I took the Overland. Run jointly by the Victorian and South Australian railways' South Australia no longer want it. It's chiefly run by Victoria now.
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t trains stop running from Leigh Creek to Port Augusta following the closeure of the power station just outside Port Augusta?
Not one, but two.
K W P A shot footage of the CountryLink [as it was then called] Brisbane-Sydney XPT service at Cowan Bank in the Hawkesbury with the rebuilt 3-film Kinopanorama® widescreen camera in 1995. Some of this footage, which is being restored to 4K, will be transferred to blu-ray and DVD for release in late 2020 or early 2021. Our website is www.the-kinopanorama-widescreen-preservation-association.asn.au.
That’s interesting filmed in 1975 Darwin should have been flattened after cyclone Tracy which hit 25.1.74
This was all filmed pre 1962.
Thanks to government for selling of our railways ,I trying to think if Australia owns anything.
2:32 old school and 2:56
Is ATN Access a subcompany for American railroad Wisconsin Central?
Wisconsin Central held 33% of ATN 1997 - 2004.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Transport_Network
@Amtrak Mikey, no it isn't! ATN is "Amalgamated Television Pty Ltd.", owners and operators of Station ATN-Sydney, A TV broadcasting station in NSW's principal city, need I say more?
ATN Australian Transport Network so probably not.
7:05 what is the name of the tunnel he mentioned?
The tunnel shown in vision is at the southern end of the Hawkesbury River bridge but it (around 500m) is not the long tunnel mentioned. That would be the Woy Woy tunnel (1.7Km) further north above Woy Woy. It was heritage listed a decade ago and for some time was the longest tunnel in the southern hemisphere
The trip to Newcastle terminus was not a complete rail trip until the section between Hawkesbury River (River Wharf) and Woy Woy was completed around 1889. During the construction passengers would alight at HR and transfer to a river steamer to travel to Gosford where the train to Newcastle was waiting.
0:46 is that Brisbane waters right before Gosford station?!
It looks like the Hawkesbury to me so probably yes.
Brisbane Water backreaches are within 500m of Gosford station...refer to a map.
Who is the narrator in this film?
can i just say that railways thru out Australia are NOT standardised. Queenslad still has a narrow gauge with a duel gauge line (only a single track) from the border to Roma Street in the CBD i also belive Perth railways are also the same Gauge as QR.
The film probably meant that all capital cities on the mainland would be linked via standard gauge rail. And they are - just took a bit longer than by 1967. And Hobart is yet to be linked, but obviously can't happen.
Ohhhhh, don't we all remember the State Electricity Commission of Victoria, until the Government sold/privatised it!!!!!!
Electricity was so cheap back then.......
(like everything else they privatised) LOL
a ciggy on the train lol
and Nothing has changed in 50 years Since talk about slow
Yes it has changed, for the worse. Where they couldn't make up for speed in those days they made up for it in comfort and service. Passenger railways in Australia today are a joke and offer neither speed nor comfort & service. It died with the Southern Aurora in 1986.
LOL a pair of golliwogs at 18:51.
I know theres been plenty of talk about standardising all of Australia to the standard gauge, Dont see it happening in my life time (take into account I'm only 25)
You might just be correct about that.
Adam The Aussie Queensland will never switch to standard, it will be too expensive for little benefit, Changing trains at Roma street is fine for now, and when high speed rail gets built, we’ll just use dual gauge for when the high speed rail wishes to use already existing stations.
@@thestargateking Hence why my comment from now 7 years ago is still relevant, Won't see Nation wide standardisation of rail gauge happening in my life time with cost being just one of the reason's. As the old saying goes if it ain't Broke don't fix it.
Adam The Aussie I don’t think anyone will see it in any lifetime.
A trip thats no longer possible. Shame I would love to do a trip like this and not spend an arm and leg on one train in particular
Wonderful privatisation.!
great video, and of course Queensland still uses diesel trains on most of its long distance trains, welcome to 1915 Queensland, QR is 2015 bring your trains up to the current.......
Perhaps the cost of electrification north of Rockhampton, west of Emerald and west of Rosewood is not justified by the amount of revenue traffic. Many US railroads have been de-electrified. 559 miles now, down from 3,100 miles 75 years ago, probably so they can stack containers.
Rod S every single other state uses diesel for their long distance, Vline, XPT, explorers ect. Queensland is the only state that actually has long distance electric being the tilt train, and before the tilt train the spirit of the Capricorn, (and at the time of the spirit of the Capricorn and before it was common for electric locomotives to take the sunlander to Rockhampton.
14:30
The town is called Tennant Creek, not Tennants Creek. And it's a town, not a city. There are no cities in the Northern Territory, only towns and small villages.
@Neil Forbes it is the seventh largest town in the Northern Territory, and is located on the Stuart Highway, just south of the intersection with the western terminus of the Barkly Highway.
@Neil Forbes tenant creek not much of a town
Enough coal for at least 4000years they say!?
Compare that to what they are telling us today.
exactly, the green energy is a hoax is just a plan to take our freedom and replace it with socialism.
I find the music in the film is hard to dance to? It doesn't help that I am 78 years old but the people who made this film should have realized that some old kook like me would want to dance! What's the world coming to with music like that? Why I otta.......
Hee hee - Of course you were just out of short pants when this was made in 1962 ;)
Great film, such a shame that over the 60 or so years since this was made the railways of this country have been decimated by governments that are so short sighted and have no taste for infrastructure that actually supports the people of this great nation.
Yes they'd rather have drugged up drivers clogging up the highways with massive freight trucks.
@@SamStone1964my comment was aimed at the governments absolute lack of infrastructure foresight & expenditure, there's absolutely no need to tar & feather all truck drivers with the same brush, most are honest hard workers & are just trying to pay the bills.
I thought the traveller was Norman Gunston!
It's so odd, many of the trains look American and others look British, sometimes both, it's odd
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boy were they wrong hahahah
Modern day Australia could learn a lot from this. Our networks have been degraded and left to rot. Instead of dismantling and closing lines, we should have upgraded and electrified the whole country. We have enough uranium for Safe nuclear power stations ( AKA the pebble bed reactor) to power the whole length and breadth of the country. This would eliminate costly and polluting long distance road transport. The degradation of our infrastructure can be tracked to one entity - The U.N and its flawed sciences. We need to leave the U.N immediately, and nationalise key industries. Australia has Been sold out thanks to the U.Ns globalist agenda. Only a few countries resists its nefarious infiltration and they have booming economies. The whole world needs to dump the U.N, it has grown into an evil global dominating and dictatorial monster, bent on destruction and obeying the whims of its masters - the military industrial complex. President Eisenhower warned us of this, and Kennedy was assassinated because he learned what was really going on.
We certainly do have an abundant supply of Uranium for powering everything BUT we are yet to find the politician who is happy to have a nuclear waste site located in his / her electorate. France is pulling down their earlier stations which, like coal fired stations, have a limited life. In addition to storage of waste there is an issue with demolition / regeneration of sites that contain specialised reactor steels that have become radioactive. Modern plants that are smaller still have disposal issues and spent material can take many thousands of years fo break down. The science of nuclear fission is not written by the UN.
Thanks for liberal politicians, and lets see what we got left here…