14" M3 Pro MacBook Pro & 16" M3 Max MacBook Pro Review
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- čas přidán 12. 11. 2023
- Apple’s 2023 M3 MacBook Pro models come in a somewhat confusing array of configs and the usual 2 sizes. We look at the middle configurations that many folks are actually considering rather than the highest and lowest end models available. In this review we cover the 14” MacBook Pro with an M3 Pro (12 core CPU / 18 core GPU) and the 16” MacBook Pro with an M3 Max (14 core CPU / 30 core GPU). These are retail configurations rather than BTO and can be found in stores for $2,399 and $3,499 respectively. We compare benchmarks and real world 2D/3D performance between these two models and with the 16” M1 MacBook Pro M1 Max (10 core CPU / 30 core GPU).
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Lisa you're a treasure to this platform. Your videos are always the most direct, honest and straightforward. You've been doing this so long and we really respect and appreciate your insights. Please keep up the great work!
I love how your reviews aren’t over the top, especially when compared to other reviewers that feature Apple products. No annoying visuals. No annoying laughter. No annoying, social media voice. No annoying jokes. No annoying music…Just straight to the point with what potential buyers are looking for.
Of course it's confusing. Intentionally confusing to screw people. Deceptive specs and bogus grifter disclosures.
All laptops should have to list in easy to understand specs what the performance actually is! And not deceptively hide information to scam and screw the unsuspecting buyer!!!! 😮
And all prices on all laptops should cost half of what they are priced at now ! Especially commieapples! 🟥 🍎.
It’s so bad. Sad state of affairs. Thank god for this lady!
Thanks Lisa. These two configurations are the exact ones I’ve been waiting to hear about.
Hi Lisa, this is my first Mac and I decided to go with the base model 16 primarily for the screen size. Thank you for the great reviews.
But you could also buy the 15-inch MacBook Air if you are really only want the display size.
I got the base 16 inch macbook. Yea you can go get a window 17inch while you go back to 15 inch air. We don't go backwards in life
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No stupid hype, just pure facts and professional touch. Thank you Lisa.
Thanks, Lisa. I struggled hard studying these expensive M3 MacBook Pros when I am so happy with my 2021 16 McBPro M1Pro 16GB RAM but needed a second one for work. But, alas, I found BH Photo had M1Max 16-inch with 64GB RAM and 2TB SSD for $2799...so I went with that. Same config in M3 space black was $4200! It's pretty much what you mention in your review to do since I don't game or 3D render. Good advice!
Bh had an even better deal on their M1 4TB before Christmas. Should have gotten one but I figured it was two generations behind, so no go for me.
As always, useful, practical and interesting, the only review that makes every word count.
Echoing how much your reviews are appreciated!
Best M3 Max review yet! Thanks Lisa!
Yes I agree. Thanks for specifically getting and reviewing the 14-core M3 Max, which is most likely what many people would buy. I don’t know why all other CZcamsrs only want to review the highest end version.
@@geoffseyon3264cuz they got free review samples of the maxed out versions with the 16 core
To be fair, it wasn't so much reviewer choice (for those very early reviews by large channels/outlets), rather Apple sent out the maxed-out 16" config to reviewers, so it's what Apple wanted covered. @@geoffseyon3264
Honestly, these reviews are literally the best!
Looking good Lisa! Great review!
Great review: complete and concise.
I always look forward to your informative reviews.
Very good video, as always! Thanks! Especially cool T-Shirt this time!
Hey I watched this channel since 2013 it’s 2024 now good to see your doing good. I really like the new look!
Very informative review. Thank you.
Honestly my day brightens every time I see a review by you!
Looking funky, Lisa! Great review as always.
It's so refreshing to see a review without all the hype and actually focussing on what matters, thanks for that! I'm still holding out between a pro and max chip for a development machine until I get a bit more info between battery and performance between the two
Just got the M3 Pro Macbook pro 14, and I love it!
Great review Lisa! Still loving my 16” M1 Max. Glad I over built it for my use case. Going to stick with it for a while. Maybe the M5 or M6.
how much memory?
@@psysword I went with the 10CPU/24GPU 32GB Ram 2TB HD configuration. Hit the sweet spot for my use.
Almost to 1M!
I’ve been around since the Acer Iconia Tab vs iPad 2 video iirc back in ~2011!
Excellent review again!!! Thanx 👏👍
I always wait for your reviews as they really set the bar for interesting, concise, and useful advice. Thanks again for doing what you do!
Excellent reviews here!
Happy new year Lisa
You are my favourite tech reviewer. Love watching all your videos. Fantastic review! I went from M1 mbp base model with 16gb to that $2400 M3 pro. Besides the performance boost, the new color, 1tb of storage and the new 14in body with more I/O was quite a compelling reason to upgrade.
Love these videos!
The first review I saw of yours was an LG G2 when I first got it. Oh how the years fly by.
Thanks for the reviewing the 14 core version of the max chip instead of the 16 core
Bravo. Such a great review.
My M1 Max is aging like a fine wine
thank you for this review, this help us decide on things^ keep it up
Great review! I’m still loving my 14” M1 Pro and think it’ll be good for many years yet. For me these computers are the perfect combination of performance and battery life in a compact design. I can’t think of a single thing I’d change about mine. Best computer I’ve ever owned by far.
Thank you for doing this review! I’m picking up my M3 Pro 14 tomorrow and couldn’t find any reviews of it. I’ve already pulled the trigger, but I feel like I made a good decision after watching.
Loving the new look Lisa!
Two things: First, thanks for clearly explaining the various permutations available. Second . . . where did you get that shirt? I want one!
Love your glasses … what kind/model? Exactly what I’m looking for.
Great videos as always - simply the best!
I always love watching your reviews! The funny shirts remind me of my elementary school librarian and always make me feel happy :)
Lisa as usual giving us the best of reviews. Thanks for all of the years providing us excellent content.
Thank you for still making qualiy videos and reviews.. been a fan since forever. one of the absolute best in depth tech videos on youtubehands down!
I love you t shirts and your new hair cut, you're one of the few honest tech reviewers, may you never get corrupted by commercial success
I just experienced what your shirt is depicting! 😂 thank you for the great content!
Before watching, I was waiting for your review on this mb
I love your shirt, can you share where you got it? 🙏🏻😼
This is great information, just picked up the 14" M3 Pro with 512GB.
Awesome. I am getting 14 inch 12 CPU/18 GPU/36 GB/1TB M3 Pro model in Silver!
Having just been gifted the 12 core / 18 core M3 Pro MacBook Pro 14" (coming from a 2019 16" base model) I'm absolutely blown away with the power. My intel machine would take about 17 minutes to render my jewellery model images. Now it's more like a minute or so. It does still get a bit hot and noisy, but it does it for such a short time.
I agree, I was thinking of getting the Lenovo Yoga i9 Pro, which sounds awesome, but the battery life on that was supposed to be hopeless. When I'm travelling I need something that can work for a good while without being plugged in so I can download my photos, do some basic lightroom edits / culling and back them up. So I took the big step of ordering my first Mac (the base M3 Pro upgraded with 36gb ram and 2gb hard drive).
Think your going to like it for that fact. Windows battery life always stinksfor me. I hadam2 max and loved it but this was announced and I was within my return period so I returned that to get a m3 max. The m2 max had great battery life while using the internet, photoshop and illustrator. I hope the m3max is similar
I came to accept that for personal gaming, I go Windows. For anything remotely actually laptop related, there's no contest. The Macbooks with M silicon floors the rest.
You will love your Macbook. It's super fast, clean, well built and you never hear the fan. And the battery actually goes for a day.
Windows from my experience doesn't even go an hour after two months. Macbooks however has a solid battery life even after over two years.
Also, the speakers and display on the Pros are honestly beautiful. Macbook Pros are extremely well built machines and probably the best laptops out there.
The only frustration I have (and a lot has) is how much Apple prices these machines to ridiculous ranges.
That said, I hope you enjoy your Macbook Pro. I think you will have a better realization of why so many people love Apple products end of day. The price is steep but the quality delivers. It's a one time expense for a major quality of life improvement.
@@2RosarioVampireAnd a much better resale value, better security and privacy, better echo system, UI, UX, more compact, etc.
I just ordered a 16” M3 Pro black 36gb/ 1tb 😁
Great review! 👍
Thank you for not using click bait titles
Great review. Can the MacBook Pro SSD be upgraded later on?
Great video! Wished you had tested and compared the ssd speeds too.
I should have mentioned, they were the same between the 2 M3 Macs, which makes sense since they both had 1TB SSDs. They were slightly faster than the M1 Max 1TB, but not excitingly so.
Thank you for the review. Also, I would love to know where you got the t-shirt of the cat biting hand ? Thks
Apparently the different between MacBook Air and Pro is whether the unit comes with fans or not. For me, I am looking forward to the Mac Studio with M3 Max and see how much performance gain when pairing a much better cooling system.
digging the hair!~
I really would like to get into the mac ecosystem, but coming from the PC space the premium Apple charge for RAM and storage just stops me in my tracks every-time! Great review as always Lisa.
I use the mac for productivity and my PC for gaming and some graphic design projects. Airdropping from the ipad to the macbook to get stuff printed is so painless i love it. If you ever get a chance, the m2 Air is beast in its own right :D
@@rdp6096 air dropping for printing for real photo pros is a no-no. We are warned to not accept air drop when installing a printer driver.
I haven’t watched in a while but a MacBook Pro review caught my eye. I always love your reviews, but your new hairdo caught my eye today. Very nice.
Upgraded from a late 2016 Intel to an M3 Pro. This generation seems to be the last call for any Intel holdouts as it's just so refined.
Thank you for picking and testing the sensible configs. I was really waiting for some M3 Max 14/30 review.
Those M3s are tempting, but common sense (and my budget) tell me to stick with my M1 Pro MBP 14 since it still more than meets my prosumer needs.
Yep. Wait until m4 or m5, which will include wifi 7, thunderbolt 5 and possibly OLED, along with a speed bump.
Same here. Very happy with my current Macs and they still get the job done perfectly now. M1 Mac Mini with 16 gigs of unified memory is still a beast for me now.
You should still be good. I need something to emulate my M1 Ultra 128 on the road. Hence, M3 Max 128. *sigh
I was on the fence between a base 18GB RAM 16" pro, and a loaded 24GB RAM 15" air - went with the pro, not because I need the processing power, but I am too swayed by that high refresh screen, good speakers, and dual monitor support. As a web software developer, the pro processor is complete overkill for me but I guess I'll treat myself this year
Haven’t seen you in a while Lisa. Love the new haircut!
Thank you for this! I am hoping you (or anyone in the comments) does not mind offering advice- I want to upgrade to the M3 Pro or Max 14". I do light video editing (Final Cut Pro) but I would really like to be able to play FFXIV (at least casually, but some basic dungeons/raids would be even better) on it as well. Of course the Max is better, but do I really need it? Would gaming be too miserable on the Pro? Thank you!
I've had the 18gb m3pro MBP for about a month so far and it's been great! I came from an m2 air because that 8gb of ram just wasn't enough.. I definitely liked the lighter weight of the air better and the slimness was nice but the pro has been a nice upgrade in pretty much every other way. I kind of feel like I was getting better battery life with the air though.. not by much, but just slightly. I feel like the extra ram combined with the better processor compared to the base pros really makes this the one to get if you know you'll want more than the air will provide and prefer to hang onto the thing for several years to come. It's also where the space black becomes available if you're into that.
I appreciate the review, but I did not hear you mention the 60ish ms screen response time. It would be difficult to purchase a higher end machine with a screen with a huge issue. Anything above 25ish ms screen response time would start to create blurs in any sort of game play, to include games on your favorite sports network.
8gb for $1600 is a fucking robbery!!!
Crazy that Lisa is still out here making great videos 10 years later ❤🎉
I just began to use the touch bar from time to time after several years. Is it gone forever now?
Lisa, do you think the M3 pro in the 14in would be a good buy for a 3D broadcast pro that does a lot of work while commuting on trains or is upgrading to the Max a must? Also, great review btw. You're the only reviewer that actually got the point of this upgrade.
Great review Lisa! Many YT channels are obsessed with the M3 Max. You are showing how powerful the M3 Pro already is. However, there is one thing that is really limiting for thr M3 Pro model: the max RAM of 36GB. I dont understand why Apple is not offering a 64GB model. Well, of course they want to drive peps towards the MAX. Which sucks as a M3 Pro with 64GB would probably be more than enough for most use cases. In my case - music production with large sample libraries - 36GB unfortunately is not enough. It is a pity that upgrading the RAM is only possible by buying an overkill CPU.
I’m in this camp. I was looking for a chance to “downgrade” to a 14” from a 16” M1 Max and I wanted 64gb. Lo and behold I picked out a 14” M1 Max, but am more concerned about battery life/heat that I would’ve preferred a M1 Pro with more efficiency cores.
32gb has been fine for me on a 14 M1 Pro; and I'm no lightweight when it comes to memory. 40+ Chrome tabs, multiple VS code windows, dev server and docker images running, etc. I also don't stare at the memory monitor, because I'm actually working... 🤷♂
What's actually been a bit underwhelming is the battery life. Doing all of the above, I'm usually getting ~5hrs battery life from 100 to ~20% after 235 cycles, 88% health.
@@joelv4495 40 chrome tabs at once, are you a masochist? All my home desktops now have 64GB and up for video/photo editing, and since I'm buying a new laptop I might as well be consistent.
That's very good to watch videos! 😉😄😄😄
3:53 I think you meant to say 10 performance cores (in the 14 core CPU)
lisa what can you recommend ultra portable laptop with really good battery life
What a cool shirt! I can relate
Been waiting for this review
Love the shirt.
😉😄 I don't think you can improve your introduction
🎉Good job
Thank you, Lisa. Not sure I’d compare 14” PC architecture w/ a throttled RTX 4070 to a much larger and more expensive 16.2” MBP M3MAX.
A more reasonable comparison would be Lenovo Slim 7i Pro priced $1400 less.
I’m still using 16” intel i7 , 16 GB , yeah it’s little a bit slow but fine with my light vide editing and Lightroom/photoshop i will waiting M4 !
Please do a review of the samsung ultra tablet update please
What color are these? space gray or space black?
M3 Max "max" config with 4TB due in December.
Can't wait!
Even with military discount and no sales tax it's the most expensive laptop I've bought (excluding old stuff when adjusted for inflation!).
How much did it cost you
@@MISTERBONG228 The 4 TB SSD will be about 5x the price of an M.2 Gen 4 SSD, so you'd add that on top. In the UK a 4 TB M.2 cost me £250, but it's £1200 on a MacBook.
@@Lee.S321its enterprice grade. So no. It will at least be 1500. Check what intel enterprice ssds cost… its not a samsung m2 in there…
@@MISTERBONG228 $5400
@TheVikingquest If you just test the speed/performance of the SSD it'll tell you all you need to know. MB SSDs are comparable to gen 4 M.2, which are significantly cheaper. MB SSD upgrades are ludicrously overpriced.
For 95% of the people out there…the m1 MacBook Air for $750 is the way to go…..fanless and fast and light…great battery life….save your money 💰
@@DrAllDoRespect …it’s average…use the free version of
DaVinci resolve 😎
Just so long as you choose 16GB of ram. Otherwise forget it. It’s a crime to still offer 8GB of ram in 2024
@@silentwalker-ns9cy I have three m1 devices with 8gbs …and haven’t had any problems yet 🤓
I think I’m the 1% that wants the m3 max 14”
Cool haircut 👍
If you work on tuning LLM then a memory size is more critical then the number GPUs.
😂wondering how would you fine-tune a LLM if no dedicated gpu servers at hand?
Also, look around some deep-learning researchers or engineers. For example: Andreaj Karparthy (formal Tesla AI lead, current OpenAI researcher). He’s still using his MacBook Air M1 for some weekend side works. That M1 air has only 16GB RAM (max.)…
@@wengchi-hung8326 there are at least two ways to solve the problem: 1. use well established approach offered by some well known person, for example Andreaj Karparthy, 2. use some different approach offered by not so well known person, but promising solving the same problem faster and more accurate. I prefer to take a risk. What about you?
LG is the best tech advisor I have ever seen.
I loveeeeee your T SHIRT!
OK. I need to talk about the T-Shirt! Is it just that the cat (as ours does), loves a chin tickle and then for no reason gets a little confused and bitey, or is it a comic book thing? Great video as always. I love your reviews Lisa.
Can you please tell me where I can purchase that t-shirt?
The 猫 shirt is 素晴らしい！Also a great down-to-earth review of these Macs. M1 remains super snappy for my needs. Longevity is a great aspect of most Apple products.
Hi Lisa, can you advise if there is a big performance difference between the m3 pro 11c and 12c on the 14”? I notice there are a few extra GPU cores in the 12c. Does this hurt battery life / thermals? Thanks
Battery and thermals shouldn't be affected since it's not a huge diff in spec. Performance will be a little faster for GPU-based tasks.
@@mobiletechreview only asking cause there was a big difference in battery life on the equivalent m2 pro binned vs unbinned in the 14”. Do you think there would be a big fps difference in games? Would your pick be the 11c or the 12c if I am going for 36gb ram and 2tb anyway? I noticed the 11c comes with a 70wh charger and also wondering if that is sufficient to support the processor under max load.
Love you Lisa!
can anybody tell me if the battery life has been tested in this video? I've been looking for it but it seems it's not important to anybody anymore.
THAT T-SHiRT!
14 inch MBP M3 Pro vs. Refurbished 16 inch MBP M2 Pro
I have hard time to decide between brand new MacBook Pro M3 Pro 14 inch with 36GB RAM, 1TB SSD and Refurbished MacBook Pro M2 Pro 16 inch with 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD.
Currently I am using MacBook Pro 16 inch late 2019 on Intel i9 with 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD. So, I don’t have any issue with portability at all.
The indecisive comes from the M2 Pro vs M3 chip and RAM difference between those 2 machines (36GB RAM on M3 Pro vs 32GB RAM on M2 Pro)
Based on those two differences, which one do you think has better value and better investment protection between brand new MacBook Pro M3 Pro 14 inch with 36GB RAM, 1TB SSD and Refurbished MacBook Pro M2 Pro 16 inch with 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD? I am not video editor or digital content creator or any graphic intensive users here.
Any valuable input is welcome. Thank you.🙏🏼
Was hoping youd explain about the 2 different 14" MB PRO M3 PRO's ... one with 11 core the other with 12 core ... why the 2 different??
Hey there my girl Lisa how you doing it's been awhile I'm glad to see you again this was a beautiful review of the Apple MacBook yes
Your hair looks very good
Does the most powerful m3 max actually have better gaming and 3d rendering performance than an i7 12650 rtx 4060 gigabyte 5???😊