Theo Von Explains What Ketamine Therapy Was Like
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Theo, ever try active imagination, shamanic journeying, or parts work? Those can be helpful and interesting experiences as well.
just finished my 3rd infusion.....i was just a particle in a maze of space. happily dying. a matrix of kolidescopes and transformations viwed as an atom or particle of the maze. shifting, rotating, drifting, falling with no care. 15 years of fighting addiction from opiates to H to Alcohol to Kratom...I think clearer and understand my body as a precious vessel. Dont beat up on your car because the breaks are bad and drive you to be angry at your stupid breaks that you dont replace....replace your brakes and feel the comfort and enjoyment and security you get from putting forth the time and effort to get your brakes fixed. high 5...now apply that concept to your life.
Im going to try this is
.🤞😉🍀🤞😉🍀.
Soon..
Scared but excited at the same time .
@@mikespoor3507 Were You at all scared when you took your 1st dose?!?
Thanks..
being on antidepressant for 20 YEARS IS INSANE !!!!!!! wtf!?!?!?!?!
"I am always 30 percent sad"
... Man I love Theo so much.
"Life has been fine, i'm not complaining for any pity, i'm just explaining where i'm at."
It takes guts to talk about any of this with anyone, but to put it out there for the world is on another level. Respect, Theo.
It takes guts to treat depression? It’s kind of a non-negotiable.
@@jimmyrade7815how did that go so far over your head?? He basically said it takes courage to TALK about & put it on the internet his struggle with depression and the different treatments he's tried 🙄
I had something like the experience Theo had about his dad once when I did shrooms by myself. The whole trip was a rollercoaster, but there were moments when I felt the same happiness I did when I was a kid, and before then I didn't realize how dead I was inside. Like, I felt the same feeling of being five years old on your birthday, when birthdays really meant something. It was a very primal happiness that I never thought I would feel again as an adult.
Yes!! I’ve been there! I didn’t know how to explain it but that’s the exact feeling
This definitely happens when you do mushrooms
Wow, that’s really interesting and probably the most persuasive experience that makes me want to try it myself.
@@rachels1957 Microdose for the first time
@@skundini4999 ^^ cannot stress that enough. Most bad experiences happen bc you do too much right out the gate
Ketamine, lsd, dmt and psilocybin containing mushroom are amazing. I could remember several years ago after divorce with my wife which brought me into my disastrous journey on Alcohol and cigarettes. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Got diagnosed with cptsd. Not until a friend recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Much respect to mother nature the great magic shrooms.
Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.
Can you help me with the reliable source 🙏. I'm 56 and have suffered for years with addiction, anxiety and severe ptsd, I got my panic attacks under control myself years ago and they have come back with a vengeance, I'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't get the full satisfying breath out, it's absolutely crippling me, i live in Australia. I don't know much about these mushrooms. Really need a reliable source!! Can't wait to get them.
YES very sure of Dr.benfungi. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
Mushrooms are very medicinal. This is why anybody familiar with psilocybin and any other kind of fungi will tell you, "They are alive." They have a very ancient wisdom. To my experience, all mushrooms have always said, "Pay attention to your life. How you think, how you feel, and what will you do with the information that you always knew, but now are seeing in this point of view." This is why mushrooms are so respected in tribal cultures. This mental health treatment works for me too. Half micro doses do the trick for me. At least a few days at a time with lengthy time in between. Never addictive. Thank you for sharing this point!
How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Does anyone know any good source to get them? I put so much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels, would love to give shrooms a try.
Yes, dr.sporesss
Is he on instagram?
Yes he is. dr.sporesss
DMT was definitely the best trip I ever had. It was amazing!
Peak Theo mullet. It’s glorious.
i looked up how to grow a mullet after watching this video.
I turned my back on pharmaceuticals a very long time ago. Movement is the secret for me. Long walks, jogging, working out in the morning, meditation, prayer. I am able to sit with sadness and accept it, even understand it has a purpose and value it.
Well said. Breaking through myself but still on AD's - just started about 9 months ago.
It’s so depressing to me that upon finishing my 4 ketamine treatments on Friday, I’m now in a TERRIBLE mood on Sunday. I was so hoping for relief and it seems I’m even worse. Feeling very tired and somewhat foggy and very irritated.
I put all my chips on this treatment working. I’m feeling so disappointed. So much despair
***UPDATE!!! *****
The ketamine DID end up working for me! 🥰 I did have a lul for a couple of weeks. This may also be due to the fact that I had tapered off of Lexapro for one month prior to my ketamine treatments. The improvements began in very subtle ways and it took me a couple of weeks to realize that I wasn’t freaking out anymore. I still get the anxiety and the feelings that rise up but they don’t explode. It’s like I get a little 2 second gap to think about how I want to react. It’s been very helpful! It is not an earth shattering, night and day difference but I am no longer on Lexapro and I’m doing pretty good so to me, that’s huge!
A good friend of mine came out of a Ketamine Therapy series worse than going in. Unfortunately it seems that there is no single solution for all of us.
@@climbhigh27 I was worse for a week. So so for another week. But now, I’m good with no Lexapro. Lots of weird improvements. I’m no longer late everywhere I go. Didn’t expect that at all. I’m glad I did it.
@@CindaMurphyRealEstate that’s awesome. Glad to hear!
@@CindaMurphyRealEstate awesome!
University studies that research the effect of psilocybin (magic mushrooms) on depression show that a combination of daily meditation, a daily journaling habit with the mystical experience produced by the mushroom provide the longest lasting, most effective healing from the experience. It makes sense to me personally that the same probably applies with Ketamine therapy too. So that's something to consider.
Spontaneous healing definitely occurs from these deep profound experiences produced by psychedelics that alter our state, but there's still our responsibility to process the experience and attempt to integrate any insights we learned into our daliy life. That's where the meditation and journaling come into helping facilitate the therapeutic healing process.
"A conduit for joy to pass through."
Very insightful and touching, brother.
Ketamine therapy seriously works. Just finished my 3 infusion and it’s ground breaking in the field of mental health.
No doubt, it saved my life.
How does the infusion work?
How much do they dose you with?
@@nolan1907 How many treatment you should take
@@Yasen1791...---...
Everyone is different, but I would say that the bare minimum for someone with bad depression and/or PTSD, you should go through at least 12 sessions...
The problem is that it's not cheap...---...
SFMF's 🦅🌎⚓
Theo man… so much respect, your choice of words, how you take responsibility for your own life, and the way you reframe your life experience is very admirable
I just finished my 6th ketamine infusion. It’s amazing how much it’s helped my PTSD.
Had a series of six ketamine infusions about two years ago for decades of chronic depression. It wasn’t a cure all but it did significantly raise my baseline of depression so that the bouts weren’t nearly as severe for a long time. I wish it wasn’t so damn expensive though. (@2400 dollars for 6 treatments)I couldn’t afford to have more treatments at the time so now I’m kind of where I started again. Someone has blessed me with another series though which I start tomorrow though, so I’m hopeful it will be as beneficial as it was before, or even more. Prayers to all that are suffering from anxiety, depression, or anything else.
Glad someone was kind enough to help you out. Definitely look into teleheath ketamine. It's out there.
How you doing with your second round of treatments? Hope you're doing well.
@@propbraker Thank you for the well wishes. Actually I had a really bad reaction a couple of hours after my first treatment. I don’t known if it was the anti-nausea medication or the Taurine they added to it but I was very sick throwing up for several days. This was at a different place than where I had my earlier treatments and I think at the previous place they only gave me the ketamine by itself which went fine. I’ve read that taurine can cause a reaction in some people. My sister developed some major medical issues in the meantime so I’ve had to delay going back for the rest of my treatments for the time being. I’ll let you know.
$2400 for six treatments? Why on earth wouldn’t you just buy six bottles of liquid ketamine and do it yourself? You could get six vials of liquid for abou $100.
@@bungle3912 I don’t think I’d ever trust anything from the streets these days. People are dropping like flies from fentanyl with absolutely no sign of slowing down. Thankfully, I had my wild days decades ago. In a clinical setting there are many benefits. It’s legal, the doses are precise and accurate, your blood pressure, oxygen level, etc are all monitored the entire time, and you get the ketamine through an automatic I.V. which dispenses it slowly over the session which leads to a better experience.
What an amazing guy . On 1 hand hes the funniest guy in the planet...then to hear him talk about real shit hes so god damn smart n relatable
I’m getting ketamine treatments for depression right now too, on my 8th appointment and it helpings me a lot. Theo described it perfectly!
how much is it bro
I'm just taking microdoses of it cos i can't afford infusions
Thank you for your honest and vulnerable approach to life. You help people by sharing your perspective, good on ya ✌
Theo actually changed my mind about ketamine, like a year or two ago he touched on it a little bit. And so my fear dwindled. And I tried it at a festival no pro setting because life you know. But I never knew I was holding so much tension. For the first time in my life. I felt everything un tense. My jaw itself loosened on the skeletal level. So intensely I cried like Theo. I just felt all of the weight leave. For the first time in my entire life I went to the bathroom. And didn’t think. About anything. Just about how nice the days been. No looking at myself in disgust. It helped me so much with believing I’m okay. My heart has returned to my throne. It was pure relief and return.
I'm glad you're talking about this and sharing your experience with a therapist on your podcast. I was curious about Ketamine and how it works for depression. I don't think I would try it. It scares me. I too am in recovery from trying to escape from painful experiences from childhood. I've been in therapy all my life and back and forth in recovery circles. Now I'm only in therapy and not sure what's next. I am not on antidepressents and haven't been for years but I know there is still something going on in me that I can't deny that needs to be worked out. Relationships alude me. I don't know how to connect or stay connected. Most of my relationships have faded away. It's tough sometimes to deal with the isolation and not feeling well is a constant. Hearing your struggle and listening to your guests help me not feel like I'm out there alone. I hope you get through your pain and on to great relationships. I feel like its over for me and I need to learn to be content and not worry so much about the future. I enjoy hearing you share and love your humor and humanity through your honest struggle. It grounds me somehow. Thanks. I too just want to be loved and love. I don't know why that is so hard to do. You're on a fast track to getting well while you're still young and have time to enjoy the flip side of life. I wish joy for you and for me too. The hope for Joy makes it all worth while. Like children playing without a care in the world. I want that too. I too am not feeling sorry for myself. I'm just talking out loud. Keeping it real...
Theo gone Full Swayze Bruh!
Got dat Roadhouse hittah!
The saddest thing is that therapies like this, including having an actual therapist, is inaccessible and/or too expensive for the high majority of people… THAT is why we get stuck on useless pills… after 30+ years on useless pills for PTSD, depression, anxiety and panic attacks, I’m like, “what is the point? All you’re doing is prescribing pills, yet you don’t have one iota of a clue ABOUT me; my life”… but when you’re poor, that’s all you get and all the meds you take, you find have no impact, you become med resistant, and the meds screw you up more than they help… and then it’s 20, 30 years later and you’re just DONE - with life because it has never changed, never improved, you’re always in a funk from the meds - because the meds haven’t any clue what they’re supposed to address, ie childhood atrocities; abuse; abandonment; and any number of issues that REQUIRE talk therapy…
If talk therapy was actually affordable and frequent enough, pills might not be necessary… but that’s how the US works. I’ve moved to Texas recently and can already tell getting health care is difficult, and mental health doctors want to take away the ONE med that works, for me and my panic attacks, which is xanax. After 16 months, I’m finally now getting access to a psychiatrist here, and I’m going to advise what “I” want… not what new pill they want. I’m sure I won’t get it, but I want the Ketamine therapy as I want to try what I’ve researched to be a breakthrough for PTSD and trauma, and if refused, then I’ll ask, “and after 30+ years being a Guinea pig for your unhelpful pills, what’s the point of yet another one?”
If I’m med resistant; have suicidal ideation, why TF would I want to continue such a useless cycle? If they’re not willing to listen to what I’m telling them for decades and that it’s time to try it my way, then what IS the point of continuing to “exist” this way; I can assure you that it’s NOT living! I’ll just suggest that if they don’t want to LISTEN, then let’s just stop everything, because I truly am done at this point. I can’t function, work, no income, no insurance - nothing, thus always public services that are obviously as basic as they can make it, so I highly doubt they will provide ketamine therapy when shitty useless pills are cheaper and easier to fuck you up worse; and at 59, I just can’t do that anymore… not too many years left, yet whatever I have left, I actually want to know what all the fuss is about what a “precious gift” life is, because I’ve never experienced it… I’ve just existed…
Your comment about being 30% sad all the time I totally get… mine is about 99.9% living in fear - afraid of what, I’m not sure, but almost 60 years of it - yep, I’m done and over it. Something’s definitely gonna give soon, because I definitely have no desire to look forward to several more years of the same. I feel ketamine therapy is my last option, yet unaffordable, thus watching you, and Joe Rogan and innumerable wealthy guests discuss all their experiences with psychedelics and other therapies is interesting, yet also depressing as the majority of us simply can’t afford the basics, let alone the actual expense of something like psilocybin, ketamine, or ayahuasca and other psychedelic treatments… I’m happy for those that have the means to access them and wish them well; but the older one gets, the more one realizes just how little this country cares for its citizens well being… yet they ensure they receive the best free health care for themselves, for life… no other job provides one with lifetime benefits after they leave their jobs, and that’s the only reason most of our government officials even bother getting elected as it’s certainly not to help the country… 🤷🏻♂️
OK, I know something that should help. You said you experienced fear most of the time but you don’t know why. There’s something called EFT, emotional freedom technique’s. It doesn’t sound like it could possibly work, but it does work very well on some things. look up gold standard EFT, some people call it tapping, but gold standard EFT is the original and it’s the real thing. You can learn to do it on your self online. It’s free, if someone’s charging for it you’re in the wrong place. Use it on your fear, all your fears. I’m not saying this will cure everything that ails you, but it should definitely take the edge off your fear and give you some relief. If you have access to the Internet you can do this yourself. I wish you the best of luck🌷
Just wondering. You can't get insurance through the state of Texas? Like I get insurance thru Minnesotas medical assistance program. I get that food stamps, they found me a group home to live which sucked but was better than where I was. Now I'm independent living on my own still getting insurance and food stamps thru the state whilst working a shyte job but MY POINT is I just called ucare my Healthcare provider and they said they cover the treatment and I have free insurance thru the state. Texas doesn't do any of that ?? 😮 If you aren't sure it's definitely worth looking into.
@@C_Hart I had to move Texas due to apartment fire in Florida… everything takes forever to get done here. No Medicaid for men, ie, Texas didn’t accept the expanded Medicaid, like Florida, due to politics. SAT has a few programs for healthcare, but it’s very basic, and any specialists are referrals, ie - full pay.. I then had to start all over with the hospital’s “discount” program, which obviously isn’t very discounted considering my bill over $1K, for having to establish a new PCP, etc to get the specialists I needed due to my age, etc… and it’s based off them knowing I had $0… no income, no job, can’t apply for unemployment as hadn’t worked in Texas before… thus, $0 - and the “discounts” have my bill that high? Just had cancer biopsies, so I can imagine the new balance will be outrageous!
Receive food stamps, but that’s about all men, certain people qualify for in Texas. I’m a carer for my roommate, and my mother was moved here a year before I “had” to, thus carer for her at times… she lives in independent living, although very dependent. All very stressful as it hasn’t stopped being “something” since the fire… one medical situation gets somewhat resolved, and then another one pops up, thus constantly adding doctor appointments to the calendar as I have to transport both to wherever they need to go. Plus, “trying” to get my own healthcare; yet barely anything I want has been addressed, it’s other things the doctors want biopsy, ct scan, x rays, etc…
Oh, and of course, the ONE med that keeps me sane, alprazolam… nope; they won’t prescribe it here… so, on a taper down after decades and nothing to replace it with. This should be interesting. I’m disgusted with this country’s BS, politics, and do nothing government, which couldn’t care less about its citizens. I do vape indica, they at least have a certain threshold for what can be legally sold, but it’s weak, but does help. Oh well, nothing’s changed my entire existence, except things have definitely gone downhill as the years pass by… it’s pretty pathetic.
I'm 42 and I feel the same hopelessness you do.@@DQWinSAT
Really enjoyed this brother.....thank you
"We should be a conduit of joy to at least pass through...". I felt that wisdom.✨
Same
Keep going man!! You're not compromising your sobriety, your reaching for happy, joyous and free!
@Bilbo Baggins sobriety by AA and NA isn’t described that way but I agree. It’s when people cut out their destructive DOC and can positively live your life is sobriety. I have when people downplay opiate addicts triumph when and victory just because they are in subs or methadone. They aren’t cooling off the street and they are doing great. AA skewed peoples minds to what real true sobriety is. While they guzzle coffee by the gallon smoking cigarettes.
Great feedback thanks for sharing.
Ketamine snorkeling, it's a turf war out there. Gang gang boi
Same
This dude is so real and so aware. A TRUE HUMAN BEING. I relate so much. It's so comforting someone else has similar traits and for him to go threw this but have everyone see his life on display in a way while opening himself up and exposing the raw details of life is outstandingly courageously divine. I've never been able to hear someone with this much awareness and honesty I almost don't know what to do with it.
He’s on Instagram as****
phramtrip+++
I’m always at least 90% sad. Being always 30% sad sounds wonderful
I see you. It can be so tough out there. ❤
Thanks for this Theo. I am about to start therapy myself and to hear about it from someone i listen to so often - huge. Thank you.
Actually made a purchased of mine from an online source******
He’s on Instagram as****
phramtrip!!!!
At my third ketamine treatment I had to ask myself Is this what it feels like to die ? Am I dying? And if I'm dying I think I'm okay with it . After that everything was better and it keeps getting better .
Felt that exactly
Ketamine infusions, are very different than Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy. If you do the process of therapy with the ketamine, it is a much more internal and personally healing experience. KAP, NOT INFUSIONS, are the GOLD STANDARD for ketamine treatment. :-)
Ego death?
This sounds scary though ugh. I don’t have good experiences with psychedelics and I really wonder if ketamine could help me but I’m really scared.
I had a near death experience on it. I felt anxiety followed by extreme fear then acceptance then the most overwhelming sense of warmth and wellbeing knowing everything was going to be ok. Ketamine exposes yourself to yourself.
Theo, I can relate to u, thanks for sharing
This guy is my doctor, saved my life.
Thanks for posting this dude. I am in the same place you were, I have been taking SSRIs and SSDIs for over 30 years. Just recently stopped (with dr. approval) about 8 months ago. Going to have my first Ketamine treatment here soon and what you shared helps. Thanks! GG.
I acquired mine from an online dmt psychedelic store they ship discreet¿?¿
Im Instagram¿
phramtrip+++
Theo Von is one of the most introspective and philosophical guys out there.
Have you listen to Jordan Peterson , brilliant Harvard therapist , the most introspective and philosophical , he has been on Theo Von and Joe ROGAN , amazing clear life perspective , all the best, 🍷🍷👤🌴
@@reycisneros2925 yes. seen JP on Theo show
"I was running by some turkeys at this park" lol sorry but that cracked me up .
thank you Theo
Always love the hair Theo
Man you can totally see how Theo puts up his defenses by trying to control the conversation and keep people and himself from confronting the hurt he has. Totally wants to keep the pain as he has identified it as being a part of him and he values it even though it hurts him. I think a lot of comedians want and think they need to be in this emotional pain to stay funny.
You need to drink some water.
What? Okay sideline Doctor. You are not doing any therapy over a CZcams video that is one way, especially with those bold proclamations. You have absolutely no basis or right to say that. The dumbest people gather around CZcams videos. What do you do for a living might I ask?
This should be good...
I think you are spot on with the defensive control of the conversation.
I'm not sure if it's always so much that people's identities are built around pain but more that their patterns of interacting with others are built around a fear of rejection. Comedy is a way to relieve the physical and emotional pain amongst peers and the public. Whatever our analgesic is, it isnt actually healing the trauma or retraining how we feel about our most hidden sense of self worth.
I’m curious to know if having a dad that was basically 70 when he had him was a big contributing factor to his depression. Interesting.
Ket therapy is big here in the UK especially on a Friday and sat night
On another level though can really help you get into a flow state and figure things out like other psychedelics, disassociating yourself from your troubles whilst you figure these things out, for me it can be like lucid dreaming but I'm able to process more of what's going on
You're very emotionally intelligent, Theo and its brave to express your feelings openly in a society that judges men for it. You have reason to feel proud of yourself.
Love you Theo
I feel what he said about not being sure how he was going to be able to get back to his chair. My first at-home session, I disassociated from reality and my body so hard that I wasn't sure if I was going to come back. I'm hoping my second session is better.
Did you do it by yourself?
Sounds terrifying
did way too much my friend
I’ve done it. It significantly reduced the negative chatter in my head but I don’t really think it decreased my depression.
@popo1310023 YES! I have been saying this for years, and whenever I do, people just shrug me off. Good to hear someone agrees with me😂
@popo1310023 thanks I’m going to check this out
@Yellow Melancholy late comment,are you saying the treatment is a Waste of time then? Am not Fully understanding
It did good really good things healing things for me but I still have some of my deepest issues
very few people get this wonderful experience. it can be abosultely amazing with a good caring theropist/Doctor.
Oh Theo… this is just too lovely. ❤
Great stuff I’ve been looking into trying this myself for PTSD and all that. Theo we go way back even though you may not even remember me with all the people you meet. I ran all the gyms for basketball for John Boudreaux when you played for Celtics. I came to see you in Shreveport when you were just starting comedy. I’m coming to your show in New Orleans and I’m excited!
You Think it would help you Dude?
We love you theo
Theo made me cry when he said he never got to tell his dad he loved him. I started ketamine therapy maybe 6 weeks ago and my dad passed away in January. I did tell my dad that I loved him right before he went to the hospital. I didn't treat him great over the past few years. I became distant and rarely had conversations that lasted longer than a few minutes. I totally regret just simply not talking with him and I regret not spending even small quality time with him.
My condolences 💐 don’t beat yourself too much okay you will be fine. I’ll refer you to this mate that got mine delivered he sells other psychedelic shrooms
*chubbcrack*
His telegram
Same same same... Though he unalived himself one day... Regrets suck..... Yet I continue making them.
Theo should become a ketamine therapist... He would help others not only focus on the experience, but rather "use the experience". Well said by my man, Theo V.
That’s beautiful, to be a Cody it for joy flowing through
Theo, I'm just now seeing this video; but, you helped me take the my first step to get some help. I didn't know how bad off I was; but, I was pretty bad off, and I didn't know that I had been living in a decade long cloud of gray with low confidence. I was 24-hours away from going on antidepressants, and because of your Joe Rogan interview talking about Ketamine, I found a psychiatrist who specializes in Ketamine therapy, and it's changed my life...
@@luckwood4322? Who is that?
Great interview, Theo and Dr. Pooler, thank you. I'm curious, Theo, about the setting you were in and the ROA you used (was this IV infusion treatment with therapist present or Ketamine-Assisted Psychotherapy (KAP) with IM or lozenges?) and also the dosage (sounds like a higher dose session?). I am a KAP therpist at Polaris Insight Center in San Francisco, and we have seen such a range of responses to the medicine that really varies among individuals. Whether someone is more inwardly-focused and silent during a session or more talkative CAN be due to personality factors as Dr. Pooler mentioned, and often it is dose-dependent, as well. With lower doses of ketamine ("psycholytic" sessions) patients report mild dissociation from body but that they still have access to their languaging capacities and are often engaged more in interpersonal processing with the therapist. With higher doses (psychedelic sessions) patients report moderate - full dissociation from body and transcending limits of time, space, body, and ego, and having Non-Ordinary States of Consciousness (NOSC) experiences, including Out of Body, Ego Dissolution (which CAN be challenging and scary but also liberating), and Mystical and Spiritual Experiences. In these sessions, patients are largely internally-focused and relatively silent, immersed in the music and journeying through their inner world. Both types of sessions can be healing. We believe specialized psychological understanding and training around elements of set, setting, preparation, and integration, and knowledge of working with and navigating NOSCs are essential for KAP. Understanding and appreciation of the different paradigms of healing by therapists/facilitators, including the medical, psychological, and transpersonal/shamanic paradigms, is important. So, I just wonder whether, if you had discussed more with your therapist in preparation session, explicitly around the range of responses that you may have (and that being silent and immersed in your inner world can be a good think and part of the healing), you would have been able to surrender more fully and trust that no matter how far out you went that you would return to your normal state of consciousness within 60 - 90 minutes. Also, capacity to surrender is often cultivated over the course of a series of sessions as one becomes more familiar with the medicine effects and how to orient to and navigate through the terrain.
The clinic I went to really didn't explain to me what to expect, if I hadn't watched a documentary beforehand I woluld have been very unprepared.
Eric, your comment describes very well the levels of dissociation encountered with psychoactive substances, and what can be expected at various dosage-related levels.
Are standard protocols used with Ketamine therapy? Are dosages calibrated by the patient's weight, or the desired effect? Are dosages increased as the patient progresses through each session?
As you mention, there's a world of difference between a mildly euphoric experience and the spiritual/mystical reconnection described by some patients.
The descriptions I've read about the biochemical changes in the brain are compelling.
@@OceanSwimmer Great questions. Honestly, I am interested in the biochemical changes/brain regeneration only and would accept complete sedation over ANY type of dissassociation to get the benefits. I became a chair once, trapped with no history or language once during a trip (NOT Ketamine, years ago) and never want to experience anything even remotely like that again. Been there, done that; just the idea induces panicked feelings. I am interested in the new neural pathways. I had my first session yesterday, and thank god there was nothing close to disassociation. I started questioning the beeping of the IV machine at one point (too much recent focus on freaking ventilators) and pulled off my mask to make sure I was not in a hospital, but other than that no near death experience or non-ordinary state of consciousness. If we have to advance to higher doses, I need some serious preparation and I will want husband in the room, not an intermittent nurse. Not going to rule it out 100% if that is the only way, but I will have to prepare with a therapist.
Psychedelics, MDMA and ketamine therapies have been suppressed for far too long. The early trauma resolution in a single MDMA session can be a virtual reset for your internal sense of security in the world. So glad it's been approved for the third stage of trials and excited to quit barely holding back the damn of my own emotions with the splintering wood of my own comedy. I've used the prop of the gangrenous hole through my chest as a schtick for long enough. Just need a nurse to pack some cotton in tight and walk it off. I'm excited to see what my next bit will be, just need a safe place to irrigate the gunk. Wonder how much the Sacklers will charge for the prescription rave roll.
Yeah just go look at Connor Murphy for the amazing effects pf psychedelics
@@truthseeker5110 psychedelics are medicine and to be treated with respect. Chemo will kill.someone without cancer and insulin will kill someone without diabetes. The self- reflective nature of psychedelic enlightenment is not for people who are still trying to mask their emotions or true form. I'm not familiar with Connor but if he stole the key to a cupboard that was locked to him for a reason there is no doubt he might not be able to carry what spilled out. You are led by a guide through psychedelics not accompanied by a sherpa.
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this speaks to me
High school? Man, that would be a bummer I'd have a fight with myself over in forgiving. Trust the docs, follow the science, if you don't medicate your kid we'll take em away. If over 50 percent of kids in school need psych meds maybe the kids aren't the problem. Wellbutrin; a nefarious name so on the nose even Nancy Reagan would've got her hair permed high to campaign to keep kids off it. "
This is your brain on something we were trying to turn goats into telepaths with. The CIA passed but the board of psychiatry had their hands out. Now in fruity soft chews for the kiddies under 5. Yuk."
I'll see you on the other side of this hill, both of us feeling better, race you there?
@@truthseeker5110 Connor was already a nut job, anyone who thinks they can hide gear use and hair transplants from millions isn’t mentally stable, and how many people die from opioids every day!
I had some amazing sessions that lasted a long time but definitely I felt after a few months that I needed to get another treatment. It definitely works and I feel it could last if done right. Too much to go into but profound experiences.
Ketamine infusions, are very different than Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy. If you do the process of therapy with the ketamine, it is a much more internal and personally healing experience. KAP, NOT INFUSIONS, are the GOLD STANDARD for ketamine treatment. :-)
Caught in the experience vice USING the experience. That’s a good way to look at life itself, too, I’d say. Thanks, TV. For sharing the experiences with us all. Aloha.
Starting medication for ADHD and anxiety/depression tomorrow. Have tried before but never really committed to it completely. Hoping it can help with my apathy and overwhelming desire to off myself everyday. Therapy will come later! Gang gang.
Good luck man. Good work 👍
@@joejitsuway960 thank you brother! excited to have a reason to try. onwards and upwards hopefully 🤞
Awesome man!!! Keep your head up and stay on a routine! Everything always works out. 🤙🤙
@Chris Camez no they take 1-2 months.
Be careful brother I wish you all the best! Treating depression with ADHD is very difficult to find the right medication/dosage as I’m diagnosed with both. It was a very long process, but I highly recommend looking up “KRATOM”, it has saved my life and not taking any pharm pills for 3 years and I’m 26 YO
I have literally never been happier...ketamine saved my life
this is helpful. I start treatment soon.
I just spent 20 days full time on ketamine for chronic pain. It was the roughest 3 weeks man. I was dissociating and seizures… but it worked. My psych said to just ride with it and not try to control it. Which helped A lot. I just went with it.
I just enjoy the way theo talks I can understand him lol
Theo's thoughts really speak to me. The things that got me off anti-depressants was.....
1. Coming to terms with a bad childhood in therapy
2. Learning to grieve my mental pain
3. Quitting caffeine and alcohol
4. 1 year of weekly EMDR sessions.
5. Quitting a well paid career that i actually hated and doing something that brought meaning to my life.
I’m doing my first rapid detox off fentanyl & methadone in Michigan & also doing the 3 hour Ketamine IV infusion afterwards for chronic pain & depression. I have been using since I was 14 I’m 29 now & I know this isn’t a quick fix solution but it’s a huge help especially not having to battle the mental cravings and withdrawals. I have a lot of work ahead of me after my procedure this week.
You got this!!! You can still do drugs but do them responsibly and spread out your days of usage
Hope you’re doing well you can always turn your life around and live to the fullest, hang in there
I really feel for you. Really take the time to figure out what's happening and be nice to yourself. I'm going through my own thing but I can't help but feel like a comrade going through troubled times.
@@spencer2858 I’m doing well been sober since
Thank you Theo for sharing
That very real moment of connection with beloved ones that are no longer here, I always reach it with 2cb-fly, it's painfully nostalgic and beautiful at the same time. I'm looking forward to try ketamine as well.
Bought mine from a drugstore online
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Ketamine infusions pulled me out a dark hole in December of last year. I haven't been depressed since then.
how was your experience with ketamine..was it helpful..has it any side effects.. please let me know
@@ahmedfraz8324 I had ketamine for the first time last weekend. It’s an experience unlike any other if you haven’t tried any psychedelics. I went into another dimension where my entire body was changing shape and blending into the sofa I was lying on. It lasts about an hour and wears off within a matter of minutes, one second you’re away and the next you are back in the room.
For me, the week after has been the most interesting. For the past 6 days I have had no depression, for the first time in 10 years. My mind is clear and I feel completely content with my life. I’m not sure how long this will last, but people have reported feeling better for months after one dose.
Wished i could get to try it!! l have lived in Dark places and many failed Antidepressants most apl my life!!
I had the same but with psilocybin. years of depression suddenly gone.
I was NEVER happy to be coming back to the chair. I always felt a deep sense of sadness when I started to return.
Thank you Theo!!! 🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖🖖😎😎
A conduit for JOY!!!! I love that Theo!! So perfect!!! Joy is actually our natural state!!!
I've never seen Theo like this.
Very humble and well spoken.
He's plugged into the human condition just like a lot of us.
Good content Theo👌
I've been on Prozac for almost 25 years. I tried several times to go off it and had no success. Thanks for the video I am considering this.
Love you man... UK 🇬🇧
Wonder why it affected him this way - I take ketamine in a medical setting twice a week for depression and the hardest I've tripped was my first visit and all I remember is my vision being flipped horizontally every .25 seconds or so, like, it was impossible to tell what was going on. That and mega nausea. It's no magic bullet for me, but it did bring my "default" mood from probably a 2, to around a 4. That's a lot of improvement for a couple hours twice a week.
You also feel like you are glued to whatever you're sitting on, and moving takes a lot of concious thought -- almost like you have to try to move with a weighted blanket on. I do dissociate sometimes, and it feels like I'm sitting next to myself? It's weird.
Damn be a conduit of joy?! Theo spewing knowledge all over us?! Love it!
hes very good with his words
12:08 “Electronic land, sides of walls” lol
Fantastic
life is just a special blessing a really blizzfull thrill
Came here looking for one of two things. 1. A story of a crazy fun night 2. a very introspective exterience that helped him navigate life.
Needless to say, I got exactly what I was looking for. And honestly, it has me thinking of doing ketamine assisted therapy. Time to look and see if I can get accepted.
Do it. All you need to say is that you have treatment resistant depression.
The chair will never find me in Castlevania
Theo would be an incredible poet
I Like how he stopped himself and said “I agreed to be kn it. Nobody takes accountability These days It’s always “their” fault Food Job theo! Thats why people love you
Man im in the same boat as you theo. Been in anti doressants since my dad died when i was 21 and i had to identify the body. And then clean his blood out of his car. Just something i cant seem to get rid of. I never told him how much he meant to me.
I'm so sorry 😢
Yup, it feels like you're on a roller coaster yet not moving at all. I thought I was a molecule last infusion and things started to get dark but this memory came from outta the blue of my best friends moms Macaroni and cheese from back in the day saved me...her Mac n cheese was exceptional 😮
Ketamine is incredible. I had ketamine in a non-medical setting last weekend (after a rave) and the past week is the first time I’ve been truly free from depression in 10 years. Antidepressants just reduce everything to such an extent that depression doesn’t effect you, but it’s still there. After ketamine I feel like my whole system of thoughts and outlook on life has changed to make me more resilient and open, like the cobwebs have been blown away. This is after one 80mg dose.
How do you take ketamine? Is it a pill, powder, or do you have to inject it like they do in those clinics?
@@chriss.9398 put it in a line and snort it through a £10 note.
@@chriss.9398 Powder, oral liquid, infusion and injection.
I have oral liquid for pain.
Ketamine has changed my whole outlook on life.
My dad had me at 25 but died at 48. So different from what Theo experienced but I nodded when he said I never got to a point where I could tell him I love him. For me I was just never mature enough to experience life with him the way I see it now. Now I always think man I wanted to have a real deep connection with him. Wanted to see him as a grandpa, wanted to have beers with him, more or less just to be around each other as a mature adult. I wish joy was an often thing too. It's rare so I notice it as an extreme. I even run up to my wife and say omg I feel so happy today this is crazy. I never realized how dull I've felt as the norm. That makes me sad tho too. Knowing deep inside I'm just here not living. Just existing. Im aware of it and keep working on it. Have to.
I feel u
My died back in October at 60, 8 days before his birthday. I'm only 16 and I'd destroys me knowing ill never be able to do anything to really make him proud
@@wee7750 I’m sure you did and will continue to. Keep
Your head up 🙏🏾
I had the same experience but with tapping meditations. You should try it. I would just start having a meltdown the first few times.
It's properly maddening that here in Sweden all of these therapies are still illegal, not to even mention the substances. I've been in and out of therapy and done all the pharmaceuticals for over a decade, and I'm getting fucking tired of it. One night I had an mdma and ketamine experience with my old friends, and it was better than all those years of therapy and drugs combined. In just 6 hours time. Absolutely incredible. And the effects still haven't worn off, and now it's 6 months later.
The only problem was, I was caught by the police and taken to jail for carrying a small amount of ketamine a few days after. While I'm in jail, I read that they're going to consider ketamine for depression in Sweden... Thanks government, you fucking psychos! Just leave us alone you bastards!
The amount of drugs and therapies illegal in Sweden is bonkers to me.
Karl, I'm sorry to hear you were arrested.
Ketamine can cause a lowering of blood pressure, (which I recall reading about in a pharmaceutical publication many years --- decades --- ago).
I am not familiar with it's use, but if the BP changes occur in someone who normally has a low blood pressure, apnea (the patient stops breathing) can occur, which could require respiratory support. As you probably know, apnea, if it continues, WILL cause cardiac arrest.
In an uncontrolled environment it may not be recognized until too late. What I'm trying to say is that perhaps there is a safety factor that may be the reason it is considered a controlled substance in Sweden.
In the US, for example, Michael Jackson died when Propofol was administered at his residence by a physician who was not monitoring his oxygen levels and respiratory status.
No offense intended to you. Just a thought.
I did plenty of Ketaset back in the 90's, i gave myself a 1cc intramuscular shot of fort Dodge ketaset. I'm watching mtv2 at the time and all of a sudden my reality began to mesh with the TV it became where I was. I've seen the kaleidoscope of shapes and colors plenty of times ketamine is definitely and experience
" I was in the back of someone's ..... neck" 😂😂
So interesting
“We should be a conduit for joy to pass through”- Theo Von
"Be a conduit for joy to pass through."
One thing I can say is, I reached a level or a place in my mind where my thoughts had a voice, I could actually hear my thoughts, as I was thinking them.
Ketamine causes dehydration. You need to drink extra water . Also it cleans the liver of the ketamine.more water the day before, the day of the ketamine, and the day after.
I’ve only had one infusion so far, so not much to add, but I did start giggling when he said he’d been on the back of someone’s neck 😂😂😂
Love that - if u break your leg u don’t got to wear a cast for the rest of your life. Damn pharmaceuticals.
Damn brains not producing enough serotonin to make us feel happy like normal people, pharmaceuticals like anti depressants are a life saver for millions.
@@McYeroc Its almost never a purely biological / brain chemistry issue. The imbalance in neurotransmitters is most of the times only the observable symptoms of something much deeper (unless the depression has some genetic roots in your family). There are reasons why the brain chemistry gets out of balance, and you have to work through those reasons to get the balance back. Hence the cast analogy, you eventually need to heal from the traumas that caused the balance to shift, and not rely on the cast forever or else the healing will never set properly, as a broken leg will only atrophy if left in the cast too long. I often implies integrating childhood traumas, making some drastic life changes, learning to do what you are most afraid of doing and finding your repressed self thorugh this exploratory painful journey.
@@McYeroc ... and they also permanently chemically castrate thousands of people too!
What's the quote about it being sicker to be at ease in a diseased society than to have it drive you insane? We're interconnected, you can't have entire sections of our population suffering and not eventually have the effects ripple throughout. There isn't a strata of wealth in the western world that isn't made sick by its sense of belonging being ripped out from under it for the machine to earn greater 4th quarter profits.
Good interview but what’s up with liquid death bottle in the background ? Lol
Navigating that experience is all on you
It’s good for people who have CRPS. But I never was on it. I was on Gabapentin. Was given Tramadol but I never took it was starting to get better