That Pedal Show - 3 Angry Charlies vs Marshall Guv'nor, Wampler, Keeley & Carpe Diem
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- čas přidán 14. 04. 2016
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2016 JHS Angry Charlie alert! It now has three-band EQ, so…
In this video Daniel and Mick are comparing the three different Charlies up to 2016, alongside the pedal that inspired it, the Marshall Guv’nor. Plus, just for good measure we also have a Wampler Plexi-Drive Deluxe, Keeley 1962x and a Fire Custom Shop Carpe Diem.
Interesting bits and skip-to sections from today’s vid…
• What amps are we using today? 2:58
• Original Angry Charlie sound examples: 5:30
• Original Angry Charlie, 2016 Angry Charlie and @ (AT) compared - starts at 7:12
• 2016 Angry Charlie and Original Guv’nor compared - starts 11:13
• 2016 Angry Charlie & Original Angry Charlie presence and treble compared: 16:10
• Why the three-band EQ on the 2016 Angry Charlie makes it more versatile than the previous version: 18:20
(including proof that neither Mick nor Dan can play anything like Carlos Santana: 19:27)
• EQ on the original Guv’nor compared to the EQ on the 2016 Angry Charlie: 21:22
• Wampler Plexi-Drive Deluxe overview and compared with the 2016 Angry Charlie: 23:30
• Keeley 1962x overview: 30.10
(including proof that Mick can’t play anything like Clapton-era Bluesbreakers: 32:56)
• A little bit about Dan’s Les Paul: 35:25
• Fire Custom Shop Carpe Diem sound examples with Les Paul and Strat: 37:04
• Dan’s Tele with all the pedals. And then ALL the pedals. Oh dear… 41:32
The pedals we’re using today are…
JHS Angry Charlie (original version)
JHS Angry Charlie (2016 3-band EQ version) - now on version 3
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2gVXQPy
USA: bit.ly/3mqekD7
Australia: bit.ly/2hE3vP1
JHS @ Andy Timmons - now on version 2
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2RgXMM0
USA: bit.ly/3youUbb
Australia: bit.ly/2DLarD4
Wampler Plexi-Drive Deluxe
USA: bit.ly/3nT89s5
Australia: bit.ly/2E85OSy
Keeley 1962x - no longer made
Fire Custom Shop Carpe Diem - no longer made
Original Marshall Guv’nor - no longer made
Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man 1100-TT
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2WbQLhG
USA: imp.i114863.net/jb2En
Mick is playing a PRS DGT model, Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster and Collings 290 DC.
Dan is playing a Gibson Custom 1958 Les Paul Standard and Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster.
Amps are a Fender Super Reverb with 4x10 Jensen alnico speakers and a Hamstead Artist 20+RT through a 1x12 Celestion Alnico Blue.
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Now that the Guv'nor is back in Town.. lets have fun!!!
I picked up the Angry Charlie V3 last weekend, due to how awesome it sounded in your videos and I got to say I am not disappointed thus far. Love your videos , keep up the excellent work!! Cheers!!!
Thank God - it's Friday again: Pedal Show Day. And another one on every guitar player's favorite subject: overdrive/distortion. This jhs Andy Timmons is outstanding! Thanks again Dan and Mick
The angry charlie and the AT are by far the best amp like distortion pedals I’ve ever used and will never leave my board
Are they still working for you? I’m thinking about getting the AC as a baseline distortion to run through my fender bassman.
Could you guys do a 'Marshall in a box' into a Fender vs a real Marshall shootout? Maybe even a blind test would be cool
Yup!!!!
They did but I don't remember the video. It didn't sound the same at all but sounded nice anyway and it could cover the same ground.
Be od
I have a old guvnor, a shredmaster and a purple plexi and they all sound great into my 71 super reverb. I preferred that sound over using them with my marshall head, which was already doing the marshall thing ...
Incredible! We just got the 1962 in at work today and I tried it out over lunch; already on my list. Then I come home to watch this.
Awesome work as always boys :)
Thanks Dan & Mick for this amazing comparison, exactly what I needed (as I commented in your other video before). Tasting licks, as usual, from you guys! Cheers
Man Mick seems to have unearthed an inner classic rocker. Awesome playing. You guys really have something special going on with this show. Totally addicted!
Great demo and finally a good tone from the 1962. Sounded really good on low gain.
Thanks guys.
Honestly, you guys have an awesome show! There are MANY of us who are head over heels in love with great gear. Your show never ceases to satisfy..
nah i hate nice gear
When Mick unleashed on the Plexi-Drive I was in heaven!! Well done Mick.
The guvnor is more open . Love it
nice one guys - I have my eyes (and ears) set on the Charlie AT version, it really has something special going on with the extra headroom, but I gotta tell you, I had no idea the original Guvnor's sounded that good! wow! You learn something new every day.
Dan, Mick, I've only recently found out about your videos in the last few months. They are all unbelievably informative and inspiring. Thank you guys so much. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
+Ryan Hurst Thank you Ryan, great to have you on board. Thanks for watching!
Cup of Coffee and That Pedal Show start my Friday off right!
A classic line-up of beautiful Marshall tone pedals.
i cried when you took the tele out. That tone was amazing through everything
I'm a Texas born and bread guitarist. It took a while but you boy's have grown on me. Y'all can play them guitars and let the tones of the gear y'all use really shine through.
Thanks for great video's and help understanding tones for gear I'm very interested in.
Jolly good show.
Cheers Eric :)
Amazing video as always! So great to see Fire Custom Shop in your show!
Greetings from Brasil :D
You guys are reading my mind as I've been wondering which to buy. Thanks!
Great vids as always!! cheers for the shout out!
Fantastic gentlemen! Now I can go off and be productive after my Friday Morning Fix!
Hello!! Good to see you guys again!!
Great show, great sounds - again:-)
The pre-gain side on the plexi-drive deluxe is an independent tube screamer type circuit, the left side is the marshall style od.
The Marshall Guv'nor was the pedal that really introduced me to good pedal distortin. It remained the primary distortion in my first band until we got an ART Extreme. That pedal seems to be sadly forgotten.
The ART XTreme pedal is a hidden gem, imho. I have been trying to get someone to make me a standalone version of it (without the Fx on it) for a looong time.
Thanks to your demos I went and bought an angry Charlie v3 today. In the store I try not to play it too loud, but once I got it home it truly roars with the warmth and bite I love. Incredible. Thanks guys.
+Tim Flohr great stuff, thanks Tim :)
I see your point, but not to forget that the crunch box is also basically a a simplified Marshall Guv'nor. :-)
MB215 STOP IT WITH THE CAPS LOCK!
no you didn't.
MB215 cool_starry_bra.jpg
Thanks to you, I now own an AT. Keep on with your excellent show. Gigged last weekend wearing your T-shirt, and I ended up talking gears for an hour and a half with other fans of yours later that night. :)
+Jonathan Veillette best post ever! Thanks J ;)
Just got the Andy T and omg it sounds good, thanks guys for this great channel
Totally loving the Keeley 1962x ... Great Peter Green / Eric Clapton Beano sounds!! Great idea the KT66 / KT88 switch to change the squash
Really love this one. Been wanting to hear these side by side and esp on That Pedal Show! BTW, The graphic on the Angry Charlie is Charlie Brown's head and the design on his T-shirt he always wears.
as always, loved it guys! would totally dig a sequel with more pedals. also would be cool to do shootouts based on amp model: as in best for jtm sound, best for 800 sound, etc
My regular Friday evening entertainment- the Wittertainment podcast and That Pedal Show. Living the dream
GREAT video comparison. They all sound great. I liked the Wampler and the Angry Charlie the best.
Greetings from the States! I have the Wampler on my board. The post gain (left foot switch) is the Marshall overdrive. The pre gain (right foot switch) is a tube screamer circuit. When both are engaged it's supposed to sound like a screamer into a cranked Marshall. It compresses more, boosts the mids and tightens up the bass. I really like it. Tons of flexibility.
great video, i was just about to get myself the old angry charlie so its great to see it compared to its siblings and the competition out there
+Brendolicous Get the AT instead. You'll get the old AC in the 50 Watts mode and all the extra headroom in the 100 Watts mode and extra gain and compression in the 25 Watts mode. No brainer to me ;)
Awesome show. Very entertaining
Perfect. Just what I needed to know. Thanks!
Great addition this week guys! All are awesome pedals, And Mick, I'm definitely feeling the Bryan Adams! Not just because I'm from Vancouver Canada, even though he left us to live with you blokes, but because as you mentioned, Keith Scott set the mood for some of the most tasteful leads of the 80s and early 90s....definitely one of those underrated artists
+Mark I Nice one Mark. Reckless was a big part of my early learning as a player. Obviously I couldn't play any of the leads as a kid but the sense of rhythm and groove, and melody... And tone! Killer playing and sounds all over that album. Thanks for watching!
That collings guitar is something else. Love it!
Julian Peters better than Gibson shit quality control
Great video as always, I wish the Bogner La Grange was out already though so that it could be in this video since I'm really interested in it (especially after falling in love with the Red Pedal).
Carpe and 1962 were super smooth, really nice
Still glad I bought the @. Some of those like the Carpe are amazing, but the @, especially in 18 volt mode, is just so open and organic. I like the 1962x a lot, but it's sorta a different animal, more like the regular Charlie, more JTM 45 than JCM. An obscure pedal to substitute the '62 with would have been the Hot Modded 800 by some Texas company, is pretty sweet, but a little hard to come by. Always a great show, guys!
Great video guys.
G'damnit, now I have to look into that 1962!!
That little riff at 4:22 was awesome!!
The "moustache" is the stripe on Charlie Brown's shirt.
+David Dyte yeah duh, dan
+David Dyte yeah, obviously Charlie Brown
just got my angry charlie v3 3 days ago and it sounds really really good
Can’t go wrong With the guvnor in my opinion.
Hey guys, thanks to you're video, I have bought the AT, which covers all my gain needs now, thanks so much :)
+Flamenco Al enjoy it Al, it's killer!
Loved this video. Just picked a Guv'nor mkI. It's very cool to hear all these pedals beside it. I don't know if they are all necessarily based on it, but you can really hear how the roots of these modern amp in a box pedals are in the Guv'nor. I'm waiting on a Bluesbreaker mkI clone to arrive, and I can wait to stack it with my Guv'nor and see what kind of magic I can conjure.
The Andy Timmons Pedal Show! :D Amazing show as always, guys. Keep on... Cheers
From this demo I definitely like the sound of the Guv'nor pedal more. I'm thinking about trying one of these out with my 1993 AC30tbx. I think the added treble reach from the Guv'nor might come in handy with the Vox's normal channel that I use. It's pretty warm, and I regularly have to push tone knobs up on drives for my WRHB Tele.
Thanks for the help setting my mind between these pedals, guys.
I know it’s been said but to expand:
Angry Charlie circle and mustache are
Charlie Browns round bald head and squiggly line shirt. In addition to connecting the brown sound of a Marshall to the character, the squiggly line also represents the sawtooth wave form produced when driving an amp into overdrive or the gain stages in an overdrive pedal.
great show, i heard it with headphones...surely, i like the licks that finished at 39'02...nice execution, the carpe diem seem to be very great. I had a guv'nor when i was younger i'd like it a lot but played on a poor amps. the angry charlies is great i prefer the model with the eq....but they sound really close each other
Really fun demo! Nothing says “ROOCCKKK” like that tone. Also, really that classic Rock/Blues thingy. Loved the tone with all pickup types. Wondering how an old school RAT fits into the mix? I generally do a more overdrive type thing...run two Soul Food pedals into a nice tube amp. One set as a clean boost, pushed treble, running into the other, set as a darker distortion, with the tone around 10 o’clock. I have a compressor in the front of my board. I can build up to something like that tone, or have the different layers for different shapes and colors. Wonder how riding the volume would impact the sound on these pedals? Keeley and JHS seemed most usable...can’t afford the board space for double spaced pedals, unless they are doing serious double duty.
Keeley and Carpe Diem more my flavor. Great show as always guys!
Great video gents thanks very uch, the Keeley and The Carpe Diem was my favorite if im honest..much more of a Marshall sound that I know.
Agreed. Plexi 50 Plexi owner here. They remind me of my amp. But I think the the other pedals are more of a JCM 800 vibe.
Great video!
Charlie Brown and Keeley 1962x are pedals fantastic!!!!!
I have OX4 pickups in my R8 they are amazing! Mark knows how to make a great PAF style pickup 👍🏻
All sound great
Isn't the "mustache" graphic as you put it a reference to the design of Charlie browns t-shirt?
Yes it is
Yes sir
It amazes me people don't know this. Charlie Brown. Internationally known world famous comic strip and cartoon. At the very least you could've googled it. "Mustache", seriously? You guys are workin with some extra chromosomes:/
I laughed so hard. I didnt know if he was joking or not. Made me wonder if he knew what Charlie is was even named after. It would have been pushing it but this pedal should have been orange for sure.
I don't think the Peanuts was nearly as prominent in the UK and it was in the US. They've probably never seen it, much less know who Charlie Brown is.
Damn now I have to build myself a Guv'nor clone. I actually started breadboarding it while I was watching this.. Man you guys and this show have not helped my crippling gear addiction LOL...
Plexi drive is solid. Dumped it only bc had a fizzle tone with specific amp I like to use. Didn't do it on my other amps. Now using a revival drive compact for the lighter crunchier stuff. But the Plexi drive was solid.
It's got to be the original Angry Charlie for me! That clipping sounds just so amazing.
+Paisley Wilde it's pretty killer :)
watched this some time ago I perfered the AT but now it's the V3... ohhhw love it
great playing guys enjy your show and exploring all the different tones you can get out the different equipment you demo,and the in depth annalyisis about what each pedals has and what doesn't have and works best with what amps,pedals,clean dirty amp when using different overdrives love all the tips ,just wondering if you guys could demo and review the catalinbread dirty little secret it is a vintage plexi sound it is going for that would be cool thanks.
Right foot switch on the Wampler is a Tubescreamer
Awesome as always, see if you can add a Blackstone Overdrive as you get a Plexi and a JCM800 in the one box, but no buffer and must come after the guitar ...
YIkes, with distortion that bright switch is like a razor blade to the ear drum! Lol, good video guys. Subscribed after watching this video.
The Keeley is incredible! Great show! LIKE!!! T-Shirts 4xl would be great :-)
Been watching this in bits and pieces and finally got to Mick getting his EC on. NICE. I'll throw away the first two discs of my Crossroads box set and just make an mp3 of this video now ;)
+David Dyte Hahahaha! Maybe hold on to them a little longer David. For a 'Blues' player I surprise myself that I never really got into Clappers. I was too railroaded on SRV, Albert Collins, Hendrix... And then fast forward to Landau, Grissom, Philip Sayce... All of whom owe a debt to Clappers of course! I should woodshed some Brit blues. :0)
+That Pedal Show I got into slide blues first, from listening to Johnny Winter, Son House, Robert Johnson, Ry Cooder... Clapton came a bit later and then I was gutted to realize he's pretty damn good with a slide, too, even just using one as an afterthought.
I have the original angry Charlie and I love it!! thanks for letting me hear the AT version (which I also like very much). the good ole guv'nor sounds great as well...while we're on the subject of the beloved Maeshall tone, you guys should really check out the purple plexi by lovepedal if you haven't already - great pedal
Yep, I tried an angry Angry Charlie, a Wampler Plexi and a Love Pedal Purple Plexi when I bought my pedal recently and the Purple Plexi just sounded the fullest and most natural. The Love Pedal was the one that I bought and it is just such a sweet sounding drive.
I run a Plexi-Drive dlx, but I wouldn't turn down any of those other pedals. Great demo
That clean tone w the LP reached out of my phone and spanked me.
Another great pedal show guys, thanks .... trouble is the list of pedals on the 'wanted list' just keeps getting longer ..... :) They all are great .... but do love the Carpe Diem and the Keeley.
Could be that I'm biased in that I just bought an Angry Charlie V3, but it sounds best to my ears. That TMB EQ is quite nice and completely usable. I rather like mine scooped.
I run a Mesa 5:25 Express Plus on the clean channel with a Tone City Dry Martini (OCD) for lower gain work and my beloved JHS @ for higher gain on an American Loopers ABC Looper switch. The Mesa "Burn: channel is of course the highest gain option...
It would be cool to see you guys try out JHS's Charlie Brown V4. I'm curious to see how it compares to the Angry Charlie and other pedals like it.
Interesting comparison with the Guv´nor. One of the reasons I stopped using it was the EQ: It was too "fiddly": I found a good sound, but as soon as I needed to change something, usually the top end, the mids would change, and then when you tried to fix that the whole sound was gone. I think I prefer boxes with just three, max four knobs..
Keeley was my fave but I would say that as I own one. I have it pretty much with the lower gain settings you had. Then the Wampler for the higher gain stuff, just seem to have an extra bit of harmonic goodness. Although Adan's tele did seem to love the original AC.
awesome loved the Keekey.
love this show! thanks from Southern kentucky. finally two English chaps that speak American. so happy my limited intellect can understand you.
Very informative. Would be great to have the same kind of video with the Vox AC-30 Top Boost sound (just thinking about Carl Martin AC-Tone, JRAD Hightop Boost/EQ, Wampler Thirty Something, Keeley White Sands...) !
i was expecting to love the carpe diem but i have to say it's the angry charlie v3 for me after this video
I can vouch for the Wampler Plexi Drive. I've had mine for two years now and it will never be sold or traded. There's plenty of gain unless you do serious metal. I play an LP or 335 usually, into a Peavey Classic 30 for large gigs and a Katana for smaller ones. The boost side is an independent tube screamer type circuit. It's extremely flexible and Wampler makes good stuff. Highly recommended.
Sorry if this has already been answered, but the wavy mustache thing on the angry Charlie is the design on the front of Charlie Brown's shirt. Love the show guys!
+Brian Corley got it, cheers B :)
The Guv'nor sounded the best of the lot of them.
24:23 IIUC the Pre Gain knob and footswitch are supposed to be a simulated dirt pedal sitting in front of the simulated Plexi amplifier.
Maybe you guys didn't get the full potencial of the Plexi-Drive deluxe by not understanding the pedal. It's a Plexi-like drive in the post gain section with active EQ and a TS808 on the pre gain stage (with only the volume knob). If you could, please make another video about it. Beside that, excelent work as always. My favorite music channel on YT. Perfect chemistry between you two. Thanks for all the lessons and entertainment. From a Brazil fan here.
Agreed ❤️ re: the Angry Charlie sound on the Strat. I bought one BTW so I'm biased maybe 😃, but I really love the juicy mids on the Charlie. Thinking about. a Timmons though.
The best and most informative channel ever! You guys have been my teachers and I've learnt a lot through your videos. A shout out "Thank You!" from India.
I had a question though. It is regarding distortion pedals.
What is your opinion about the True Tone Jekyll n Hyde pedal? Could you guys do a comparison between the JHS AT drive and the True Tone Jekyll n Hyde V3. I would love to hear what you guys think about these two great pedals.
Thanks a ton!
Shannon
Hey, first: i really love your videos, they helped me a lot understanding what you can do with pedals etc.! second: i looked through both channels and could not find a video about tremolo pedals...could you maybe change that ? Greetings from Germany
JHS outta pay you guys for advertising. I know I got my Angry Charlie based heavily on your videos. And I must say, I love it!
Finally figured out how to get a Carpe Diem shipped to me in the states. Cost a good bit, but I think it'll be worth it.
If we're voting I'm calling the Angry Charlie 3 with the Keely a close second! Great job as usual guys!
Probably because I sold my original Guv for $100 bucks ( can I get it back Alan? Please! )
I was hoping you would get into the Carpe Diem a little more. Anyway, they all sounded excellent! Thanks for the video!
+Pedro Bernardi We've been asked so much about this pedal Pedro. We'll do something more in depth. Soon! Thank you for watching.
@Mick, you sound good on amy guitar, but you and that strat is a match made in heaven.
@Dan, you sound amazing too of course!
That Keeley 1962x was sweet. I would love to see a video comparing some Bluesbreaker style pedals...1962, Charlie Brown, Marshall Bluesbreaker pedal etc.
And THE box of rock from Zvex ! Is in that way