Doing a “First and Last” with a CW superhero show is so hilarious because these characters have been so much - multiverse battles, clones, future children appearing in present day, super weird bad guys - that not even fans who have been here since day 1 truly understand what’s going on and how we got here
@@user-re4lj5mj2d She ended up get psych powers in like season 4 or 5 and then the powers got stronger to when she uses psych matter she can fly by blasting psych matter from her hands
The weird thing about the "Schway" scene is that that girl is Barry's daughter from the future, the villain she stabbed is an evil alternate future version of Barry, and "schway" is future slang for "cool". So she just killed a version of her own father and then smiled and said, "Cool."
I laughed so hard I cried when I first saw that scene. I imagine the writers were on cocaine or something. I hope the writer's strike fails. The people who wrote this shit deserve to work at McDonald's.
The first few seasons of arrow and flash were genuinely some of my favorite shows ever. Sad that it fell off so hard that this how I see the finale 🤦♂️
@@earthtoivy1892 I think I gave up before that but I wouldn’t have missed him. Found on both arrow and flash the team members got really annoying to create dumb CW drama
That's for sure. His performance as Barry from day 1 with that Arrow episode has always been great and he's a real humble guy about it all. Would be awesome to see him in, at least, a cameo sometime in the future of Gunn's DCU
my favorite performance he did was season 4 episode 15 enter flashtime when barry had to disarm the nuke before it blew up the city and the whole episode took place in like 8 minutes. grant looked like he was going through absolute HELL.
The reason wells constantly takes his glasses off and puts them back on is because he doesn’t need them, foreshadowing the fact that he’s reverse flash who killed barry’s mom trying to play the part of a guy stuck in a wheelchair. He doesn’t need the glasses because he’s a speedster and they all have regeneration causing his eyes to just heal and be good on their own
The coma thing actually lasted nine months in real time. In Arrow they introduced Grant Gustin as the Flash with an unofficial pilot for the Flash spin off. In that episode he explained that he has dedicated his life to forensics to prove that his father didn't kill his mother since no one believed what he saw as a kid. Then after helping the Arrow take on some people with super human strength, he went back home and got hit by the particle accelerator and was put in the coma. Then nine months later, the pilot of the Flash aired and at that point there was a lot of hype built up. I watched both these shows as they aired but it's interesting watching someone without that experience react to it because it totally feels rushed and very confusing.
I was thinking the same. I don't think Dylan knows that we basically got a ton of background into Barry in a darker and slower show. And we all kinda knew it was happening so no one at the time wanted the slow burn during Ep 1. We already had it. We already saw human Barry and wanted metahuman Barry ASAP. I remember waiting for it to come on tv. I can totally see how watching like this would feel weirdly paced 😅
@@suzygirl1843some actors are in a binder contract by time they feel like they want to move on to a new project despite being in a show that may them big they can appreciate it but still want to leave it and be trapped it 😂
Grant is definitely THE highlight of the show. All the episodes where Barry ends up emotionally wrecked (6.7, 6.17, some of the savitar ones) are a good watch lol
As a fan of this show I’m a little upset about all the bad stuff he said about the show but what hurts me the most is that most of it is actually true😂
Nah most of the things he said in the pilot reaction were stupid. I knew what kind of reaction I was going to get even after the first minute when started shitting on "Today" and the started complaining about him not being The Flash already. Most of the things he said were said just to give a "reaction"" and prolong the video
Moreover, he kept calling Wells' character shit without even knowing anything about him lol. I'm not hating and I disliked most of the seasons of this show but this reaction was stupid, in fact the whole concept of reacting to just first and last episode is stupid. I only watched it because I was curious
@@Doctor.Fortnite I completely agree with what you said. Most of my reaction was being annoyed at what he was saying. And also it is stupid reacting to the first and last, like what's the point, especially when we know how good seasons 1-4 were.
they completely changed the main love interest for oliver queen in arrow, i don’t get why they didn’t do it for the flash what with them utterly butchering iris’ character.
@rumateez and I still say they made a mistake, Ollie and Laurel had better chemistry, they should have went back to them and tried that move in the Flash with Barry and Caitlin.
Likely because the CW realized the show had a pretty reliable fanbase and didn’t feel the need to put up as many resources against the show, assuming the viewers would stick around even if the quality declined.
"I'm not a botanist, IDK about like protons and electrons and ion uh electricity" - Dylan 5:20 DW Dylan, botanists don't tend to know that stuff either lol
What made the Reverse Flash so dangerous was his ability to kill someone faster than they could blink. Having any speedster losing to a non speedster in reaction speed makes them feel like a joke.
Honestly. Last episode they killed everyone in the span of 10-5 minutes and every single one really should have died besides Barry and Nora if that fight was a little more realistic.
@@monkeytae I meant in the context that they made him seem unbeatable even tho he’s a regular person with a gun, and the end of his arc after countless eps of wanking, they end up disable his gun(as they should’ve done in the first place)
I remember watching several seasons of this, and that the solution to everything in the series is "you have to run faster that you have ever run before, Barry" and then he does 😅
stopppp I watched a couple seasons too and istg you could make an hour-long compilation just of people telling Barry he needs to run and run fast and run faster
Barry: "I'm the fastest man alive!" New speedster: actually I am and I'm gonna do something bad. Anyone in team flash: Run Barry! Run! Barry then kills the new speedster, cementing his title as fastest until the next speedster shows up, and then repeat.
I remember LOVING this show when it came out when I was in middle school. Watching it slowly go from my favorite to least favorite show was a long and unfortunate journey lmao.
It would be funny.. Like what dean had to do a sketch art of the suspect.. and it turned out to be stick figure. (If you have seen the show you would get it)
Literally the only reason why i kept watching the show was because of Grant. His performance in the show was the best compared to the other characters, and Grant just did an overall great job. Especially considering he's in a CW show, he didn't have to go so hard during the emotional scenes, and just he excelled when it came to really selling his character. Either way, Grant is an amazing actor and did really well during his acting in this show.
I firmly believe that if they hadn't cast Grant Gustin, even the brilliance of season 1 never would've taken flight. Grant seriously nailed any scenes where he was being emotional or just a casually goofy guy, hence making the viewers root for his character even after the writing went to shit after season 3. And the fact that he carried that same level of intensity for nine whole seasons demonstrates Grant's passion, and it just overall makes me respect the guy.
@@jerrylane8351, fr, i've been scrolling through these comments and a lot of people have only kept up with the show due to being invested in Grants performance. But yes, i agree that his acting has been great from the very start, and i, and probably many others, have stayed with the show because of him. If you want to see more of Grant's performances, i recommend watching Glee, or at least the third season, since he's in it and i like how he can play a more mischievous character (not to mention his singing is just *chef's kiss*). That and Rescued by Ruby really shows Grant's acting abilities (sorry for the long paragraph).
the fact that Dylan will never know how scary Zoom actually was is a crime lol. Also my dad used to call Eddie 'show tunes' back in season 1 and I think it's hilariously fitting
I not only watched every episode as they released, but I also have gone back when new episodes weren't airing and watched the show through on multiple occasions throughout the years, and am currently re-watching it again as I type this (season 3 episode 16 right now). I have seen it beginning to end over 10 times, sometime around 10 I lost count and now all I know is that it's been more than 10 times, which I am aware is psychotic behavior. At the end of the day, I continue coming back and watching for three main reasons. 1: Nostalgia for how much I loved the first season. Despite the multitude of characters with bad writing/acting and the goofy effects, I still loved how they did the mystery of the man in yellow and slowly fed us info about it as the characters were in the dark, and then when the mystery is revealed it was just a good time watching how they went about trying to stop him, a very well done big bad in my opinion. 2: Time travel fuckery COMBINED WITH alternate universe fuckery. The amount of time travel/alt universe BS that they introduced in this show is genuinely off the charts, and I live and breath for every second of it. I love the absolutely unhinged timeline that this show created, and I especially love when I try to explain some minor thing from an episode I like to my friends, only to realize that what I'm talking about needs an approximately 45 minute lore dump for anyone to be on the same page as me. (Season 5's whole situation with Thawne using Nora to change the past is a great example of this time travel BS that I love so much). I ESPECIALLY love how they used time travel and alt universes to reuse the same cast members as many times as physically possible, which is why you see familiar faces in the first and last episode, but won't get to know that some of them are completely different people. For example, she's Caitlin Snow in season 1, but in season 9 that's Khione, who is a totally different person and it's only visually shown by that strip of blue hair, and that's not even covering Killer Frost, or just Frost depending on the season, who is another character that they used the same actress for who throughout the seasons had been everything from alternate personality to an alternate universe doppelganger to a whole separate person (still the same actress tho, they just had multiple of her in the same room at any given time). See what I mean about 45 minute lore dumps? God I love what this show does to my brain. 3: Grants performance in the later seasons. In my personal opinion the first four seasons are genuinely good and hold their own more often than not, maybe the fifth season too but that may just be because Nora (daughter from the future Nora, not dead mom Nora or living embodiment of the speed force Nora) is one of my favorite characters. After seasons 4-5 there isn't really a great reason to keep watching unless you are a huge fan of Grants acting. You've gotten the highest highs that the show has to offer and get to avoid the lowest lows that it has as well. Also therapy doesn't help, if you are one of the rare few that love this show like I do, there's no coming back from it.
i agree with u bro i love this show and i dont understand how ppl dont like it. i do agree that the seasons after season 4 got worse and at the villans that once were really cool like the reverse flash were so much worse in the newer seasons
@@WargasmoI remember being confused AF about her existence just like Dylan and even more about why she's staying in that timeline. Like when baby Nora is a child will they tell her that that grown ass woman is also her? 😂
During the first few seasons of the show, they had Grant Gustin actually run on a treadmill for the speed running, but after that they had him only move his arms and make it seem like he was running because they never really show his legs. That’s why it looks so goofy when he runs in the later seasons.
If I may ask, for my own personal understanding, wouldn't that be because in the earlier seasons he runs at a certain speed but in the later seasons he's constantly breaking barriers and going back and forth in time so realistically they couldn't achieve that same consistancy in videography having Grant just run on the treadmill? Or am I completely off here?
@@Tinkvampbite89 no, they just explain he's going faster through dialogue. later seasons through the use of poor cgi/budget and different running styles, everyone else sucked except for grant and rick cosnett (the cobalt blue character that dylan watched in the finale)
@@Tinkvampbite89 No Grant Gustin said in an interview with Conan O’Brien (I think) that they noticed that most of the shots where he was running only showed his torso and up, so they decided they didn’t have to use the treadmill anymore since it was just a waste.
Actually i love how it takes an entire season sometimes 2 seasons to get rid of the speedsters but then at the end it took all of 5 seconds to kill all of them at once including savitar who is supposed to know everything that happens in the future
Me and my mom watch the entirety of the show and what kept us going was the love and character development through all 9 seasons (and the villain's that you didn't see)
The concept of the Flash actually just brutally ripping someone apart because he’s moving too fast is literally the opening scene to The Boys, if anyone is ever interested in the concept of superhumans painted as super heroes gone horribly wrong.
rewatching this hurts even more, especially when you've watched every season and know how good the villains used to be, it hurts so much seeing what happened to them towards the end of the season
@finjuno2372 Savitar was when I stopped watching. Knowing full well it was CW dreck, I still enjoyed it for some reason. After Savitar I just couldn't be bothered.
The absolute trash that was the final season is mind blowing. How do you condense an entire final season of a show fans absolutely adore from 22 episodes to just 13 and have almost the entirety of those 13 episodes that has SO MUCH source material be filler garbage that no one wanted or needed. The fact that they didn’t actually show the moments that made Barry and Eobards enemies instead of just having them talk about it. The fact that speedforce Barry mentions tornado twins and we don’t get that pay off, the fact that we don’t even see Barry ever create Gideon. So many moments we deserved and didn’t get it’s so frustrating. They had the opportunity to do something cool with Eddie and cobalt blue and they did nothing. They could have had a final real speedster battle at the bed with all the good speedsters against the evil ones and nope. The fact that Carlos said he wanted to come back for the finale as Cisco but the show runners wouldn’t give him time to finish his other projects. There was just so much that didn’t need to happen.
What kept me going is throughout every single season the emotion just got more harsher, and it was just heartfelt. It touched my heart and a lot different ways and it is literally my whole life.
Would have been better if their wasnt that red death stuff. Maybe have the season be where barry has to face off against his speedster villains one by one in an episode each. Where the villains dont know why their back and that they are gunna use that opportunity to have one last crack at killing flash. Use the episodes to build up to eddie thawne and then have him reveal to barry that he sent them and that when they die he absorbed their speed force, maybe have him appear to do that so when hes in the final episode he would have had build up. Maybe he could have worn the cobalt blue suit in those scenes so its not limited to just one episode.
I would love to see Dylan do a first and last to every Arrowverse show 😂 (I say this as someone who loved the whole Arrowverse, through all the good and bad)
Dude I was just thinking this. I need this to be down so I can here dylan say how dumb the last ep is (coming from someone who watched the show through and loved and hated it at the same time)
Grant's performance is the best in the show. However when you dont watch the entire show, you miss Tom Cavanagh's performance. He has had to play 10+ different versions of the same character. He is really good in most seasons when he isnt playing Eobard Thawne. Thawne sorta got bland later on however it could be they were going for the "he has a huge ego" approach
The first season is actually pretty mind-blowing. Once you get past the initial hammy episodes, the heartfelt acting and highly creative plot beats built up to a brilliant finale. Sadly, the writers started losing their minds after season 3 or 4. Only reason I stuck around to season 5 was due to Grant Gustin and the character of Cisco (who's absolutely hilarious).
I got so fed up with all the crossover episodes. In a time when most people are streaming and binge watching, crossovers do not work. I probably would have finished this show and arrow if not for those.
Caitlin should've died. When she brought Ronnie/ DeathStorm back I thought that was her cue but they took Frost instead, who has had more growth than Caitlyn. I made no sense to bring Khione when it should've been a storyline about Frost accepting Caity's death and building a new life with Chillblaine since he was useless.
@@sweetlids2898 agreed. I didn't really understand why they killed both Caitlin and Frost and kept the actress in as a new character. It didn't really make sense as a viewers stand point
I’m guessing one of these is Danielle Pannabaker’s character. He totally missed her say she was in a MORTAL body. I was like woah wtf happened in her plot line lol. Also figured that had to do with her dry acting because this immortal person in a mortal body is just dry and finds it all not that big of a threat.
I watched this show all the way through because the first two seasons pulled me in and I really enjoyed it. and then I started watching all of the other shows that were in the arrow verse and the crossovers made the flash better because of the ties to the arrow and Oliver. Then I binge watched all of the shows a lot and I still do go back and watch the shows over and over.
You have to keep in mind, this first episode is a pilot. The pilots are made separately from the rest of the show, and they usually have a more sped up story arc
I quit watching the flash when it was nearing the last season, but I will say the last episode was like a slap in the face. It took a whole season to defeat each “main” villain, but it took one episode to defeat those same villains so easily.
as many people have mentioned, grant gustin's acting skills is probably the one thing that managed to be consistent throughout the series, the writing they gave him not so much but grant did a great job.
at least now we know that its not the directors fault its the background and writers that were payed poorly and thats why we got shitty seasons after season 4
the cgi for the flash in episode 1 was actually incredible. sadly the vfx got worse every season as they dropped the budget due to decreased viewer count
@@vastos2587 and then ruined the show by making the finale a 2 part episode where the second part is actually just 15 minutes and the very last scene is both Jensen and Jared being like 'this is just a show, none of this is real' ;(
The worst part about the last episode was the villains. They were all supposedly given speed boosts from the negative speedforce, but somehow Godspeed was slower than Cecil giving him a headache, Zoom is slower than lightning (He caught a lightning bolt in season 2), Thawne was slower than Allegra's light beams (He's faster than light, and what should've happened is Thawne taking Allegra's heart out of her chest), and Savitar, like goddamn he was nerfed. The worst one of all was Savitar because for starters, he was faster than Barry in season 3, who was faster than Zoom, who is faster than her and how do I know that? It's because this is a new Nora and the old Nora was erased in the timeline so this new Nora didn't learn from Thawne, therefore she is slower than the original Nora, so Savitar without the Speed Boost still should have defeated Nora but no, she kills her own father. Guaranteed the worst writing ever.
Honestly, while the show declined later on, I highly recommend watching the first two seasons, or at least just the first season. They really do a good job of creating a story and characters that you're invested in, especially season 1.
I've watched up to s3 and then rewatched s1 and 2. I have a poster of him on my wall and used to say he was my favourite superhero. I am simply ignoring the other seven seasons
30:00 The actress for Caitlyn/Khionne/Frost was actually playing 3 different personalities. Khionne was the last one that was not human and did not have a strong grasp on emotions. She is more of a personification of the elements, than a human. She was alive for less than a year, so it actually fit to have her not showing much emotions. Edit: Holy shit, I just realized that actress was in Sky High.
The writers of this show weren't good enough to undermine the trope of the born yesterday character to do this. That sort of character, new to human life, is WAY more child like. That means volatile emotions and naive. If she's the personification of the elements, and somehow knows about existence for thousands of years or whatever, she should STILL have volatile emotions as the concept of the elements- earth, fire, water, air- are tied to emotions. It's really too bad for Caitlyn's actress. Her opportunity to actually act in the show was hog tied the moment they introduced Killer Frost as her double. And when Killer Frost replaced Caitlyn... that was when I stopped watching. The quality of writing had really slipped by that point, and I couldn't stomach the camp anymore. And this is coming from someone who happily watched ALL of Xena: Warrior Princess.
Poor baby was like four months old. But tbh, I only really watched for Caitlin because at some point I got annoyed by Barry & then ALL the side characters (specifically Allegra & Chester) came in and Cisco left and that was my last straw. But his point about making side characters valuable is so true because at some point the show as a whole became ALL about only focusing on WA (not that it’s a bad thing but it kinda is) so there wasn’t much connection towards the other characters. I came to love Caitlin’s character mostly because how they showed her struggle within the first four seasons,but then KF became her replacement and the writers as a whole stopped caring about her development. Then towards her end in season 8, where she’s actually going through the trauma of Frost, instead of giving her a plot line that didn’t include Ronnie, they kill her off and replace her. She seems like a bad character but tbh the writers did her dirty from the beginning and it seems like they only kept her there for the plot but once her character has a Chance to be valuable they replace her with another version of ‘herself’. It’s understandable why she didn’t finish out season eight (DP was pregnant) but when she died the season was already over so it just made no sense to kill her.
i took a (7 year) break because i started it as a child, then went back recently to finish it. once the show started to get bad, like season 4/5, i kept going for two reasons 1. i was originally watching it with my brothers, but they had moved out between the first watch and finishing it, so it felt like hanging out with them again 2. but more importantly, i refuse to be beaten by a cw show i started my second rewatch a couple of weeks ago for some reason, so i guess i liked it enough
I never watched up to that season but I got some mild spoilers. Is Nora basically the CW version of Bart Allen? The writers gave him a time travelling daughter instead of a time travelling grandson?
This is a show I started as a teen and was obsessed with. It definitely peaked and never recovered but I stuck around for Grant Gustin until the end and can say it was a great part of my teen to young adult years.
So can you tell us why that guy was always taking glasses off and putting them on like Dylan asked 😂? Did it had any meaning? Since you watched the show. I'm curious.
@@crowlynnaTom Cavanaugh, who played Harrison Wells and many other iterations of the character did a fantastic job in the show too! Wells is actually the villain Eobard Thawne that killed Barry's mum. So with the glasses, an assessment I saw on Reddit that makes total sense to me is that it's widely observed that Wells tends to take off his glasses when he's telling the truth or his 'Eobardness' comes through... I hope that kinda makes sense
pretty much same. I was actually still entertained until season 7 but then they did the whole "these grown adult supervillains possesed by forces of nature are my children" and I actually bailed. I did return for the final season just because i invested so much of my life into it.
Same Grant Gustin and because I'd loved how the show used to be and wanted to see it end was why I kept watching though the last couple seasons or so got so bad that I'd usually put it on in the background while doing cleaning or something, and then skipped all those awful episodes that didn't have Barry in the show
This show was wonderfully cheesy and I loved every bit of it. You can't take it too seriously you'll hate it but if you go into it looking to just have fun it's a great time.
i thought the constant removal of the glasses was intentional to foreshadow the fact that Wells is actually Eobard Thawne, therefore he doesn’t actually need glasses, giving that little hint
You misunderstood the Joe yelling at Barry scene. He was saying that barry was imagining the lightning storm that was in his childhood living room the night his mother died, not imagining the lightning bolt that (unknowingly to Joe) gave him powers. At this point in the story, it is believable to Barry that he could've just imagined the lightning storm in his living room killing his mom, because it was the reverse flash and an older version of himself traveling back in time.
He also misunderstood the reason Iris and Eddie were hiding their relationship. They weren’t hiding it from Barry, as she didn’t even suspect he liked her, they were hiding it from Joe.
I watched EVERY SINGLE EPISODE, from season 1 to season 9...the thing that kept me watching: Season 1: The mystery surrounding the man in yellow, then when that was revealed, the "how we gonna stop him" feeling. Season 2: Zoom was just a great villain Season 3: Savitar was an interesting concept, and also I couldn't wait to see Iris die, but then she didn't. Season 4: Devoe (the main villain) was just always like 4 parallel universes ahead of Barry and the gang, and I really enjoyed that. Also Devoe was played by a South African Actor, and being South African myself, it was fun seeing someone I know in such a big role. Season 5: Grant Gustin's Acting Season 6: Grant Gustin's Acting Season 7: Grant Gustin's Acting Season 8: Grant Gustin's Acting Season 9: Grant Gustin's Acting, and them wrapping up loose ends like the episode Barry and Thawne fights the night his mother died, and the episode where Arrow comes back. That's about it... in summary, the best thing from this show, is the memories we made...and Grant Gustin's acting.
Every time a new season would come out I would rewatch the show from the beginning, but in the end what kept me to watch the show all the way through was the story. I wanted to see what the story was going to be like for the show and overall it was good
The glasses on Tom cavanough are a plot point 😂 He dosent actually need glasses, but he took the body of someone who had glasses so he could make Barry the flash, but he dosent need them so him constantly taking them off is a hint to his real identity
Have the show creators never heard about a marvelous thing called eye contacts? He could have told them he was wearing them while actually not and no one would have suspected a thing. Was that covered sometime and a reason given for not using that idea?
@@adidi7789 that’s what sucks about some storytelling, you need to avoid logic sometimes to show, and not tell your audience. Thawne is a moron that didn’t use contacts, so that writers could fit in little kernels of mystery, that is almost immediately solved. But if you think this is bad, you should see any single episode from season 7, pick one and your brain dies
it is tragic dylan will never know how good the first three seasons were… for a CW show. it’s so nostalgic for me and the storyline is genuinely captivating. and the villains were terrifying!
Lmao. The villains were people like captain cold, a normal guy with a gun. Multiple episodes where Barry couldn't defeat him. It's embarrassing when you actually look at how many of the problems Barry faces could have been avoided if he actually used his brain and used superspeed like he should be using it.
Yup, you right @@Frank___hassle__! Don’t forget main villains after Season 3 such as vegetable (smort) guy in chair, or normal guy with a dagger! The latter is even more offensive than Captain Cold because he was hyped as MAIN BIG THREAT. “The one who got away” my ass. Oliver was right. Barry needs daily pep talks in his ears to activate even 5% of his brain.
@@jasonnguyen2575 Ah yes, "the smartest man alive," can't forget that embarrassment of a character, and yeah that's for sure. And it's annoying to no end that Cicada only exists because Barry didn't knock out Thawne in crisis on earth x AND knock out Dumboe, cuff him, and relocate him to prison at any point during season 4 like he should have done numerous times. But still, Cicada isn't a speedster, his dumb power dampening field can't move at superspeed anyways, and we know it's not automatic, he actually has to manually enable it himself, and even if it was automatic, it still can't move at superspeed. Cicada should have been defeated in the first episode. He even could have stopped Zoom in season 2. In episode 18, he had Zoom temporarily subdued, all he had to do was knock him out and relocate him to the pipeline, but instead he decided to talk to him for over 2 minutes and let him escape. Which got Wally kidnapped, Barry's speed taken, Caitlin kidnapped, the cops at Jitters killed, and Barry's dad killed. And people have the audacity to call this show good. It's embarrassing.
@@Frank___hassle__ eh that’s fair. I meant more like zoom, savitar. not the normal guys with guns 😭 I do agree there were so many plot holes and there was no consistency in how his super speed worked, but considering I first watched the show when I was like.. 8? 9? it didn’t quite matter back then
Personally I used to love this show, I think its complete dog shit now (the entire thing btw), Grant Gustins great however, iris is annoying as shit, and the plot holes are too much
In fact, I'm sad that the "first and last" scheme takes away the PURE MADNESS that is present in CW series somewhere in the middle of the plot, when neither the characters, nor the audience, nor the writers understand what is happening and where all these children and plotlines came from.
@@reynaafigueroa it wasn’t her it was a like god or something that had been created in a lab to bring frost back to life after she died in the session before the final one
The fact that bro has zero context to the story and Grant Gustin still manages to make him feel the emotion and weight of the scene shows just how much the CW let grant down
I watched this show from/through season 1 to 9 because of the mix of events the story line and the fact of the impossible made possible, the overall watch/view of the show only marks up when you watch the whole show to see overwhelming series of events and changes because of Barry's tragic past/backstory and the generation of the timeline, also it was weird but amazing to see Nora Allen's appearance as the speed force and Jay Garrick's wife. To be honest this is 16th time watching the show from season 1 again
Literally zoom and savitar were the best rivals the show's ever seen and i hated how easily they were defeated in the finale. How in the world did Nora kill Savitar in two seconds when it took the entrie team a whole season to defeat him initally? Like i was so hyped seeing all the rival speedsters come back in the last ep but they were too easily defeated for the amount of terror they used to be
And how did Nora's stab kill Savitar? When Barry used phasing to break the blade and Jesse Quick stabbed Savitar he acted like it was nothing. Why is Nora's stab so much stronger than Jesse's?
God.. this guy always finds nitpicking and flaws which audience doesn't even think of! nor do the writers! NEVER ever thought of all these issues. Because they don't exist it's fictional! and even if it was in the EXACT same way he wanted, he would STILL find different flaws. Some people will shit talk no matter what. Dylan is one of them
5:38 That's why you gotta watch Arrow concurrently with this show. In Arrow we meet Barry and his coworkers and we get to live through those 9 months he was in a coma. They mention how Iris spends a lot of time visiting him so this reunion does feel earned if you've seen Arrow.
@@Narra0002yeah the shows on CW while they were running where all congruent, but The Flash became the “Anchor” replacing Arrow after they had their second season, so it kinda became you didn’t have to watch the other shows since most characters (outside of arrow) all came from the flash (literally like legends of tommorow or whatever that show was, like the whole team was from The Flash.)
Dylan just complicated the prologue ep. It was straight to the point, nothing confusing to audience. Understood it first time I saw it, its normal. You've to be a special type of idiot to get confused by it or be pedantic about it. But that's how soe youtubers milk content
I think that's a mistake by the CW, it's what got Marvel in it's current trouble. If you don't watch the Disney+ shows you basically have no idea what is going on.
do you mean their best rated episodes and worst rated ones, taking the highest and lowest from each season or the entire show overall? because that’s absolutely genius and i’d love to see that
Insomnia is kicking my ass, perfect time to binge Dylan. I remember enjoying this show purely for Grant Gustin’s performance, idk why but he reminds me so much of Blake Lively…I think it’s the mouth area; the way they speak. He was such a good Flash imo. 9:30 😂 14:52 ahhh that laugh 🥰😄 so cute 18:15 🤣 22:47 I love when that face morphing effect is used 😅 23:46 27:55
I went through all 9 seasons season 2 is my favourite the villain in the black suit wasmy favourite because they made him a threat with the 6 episode build up mystery of whoche was and the lighting and effects made him a litteral demon, so yeah. It was hard going through the whole show as i grew up, ps i was born 2010 and the show started 2014.
i didnt finish the show lol it became a pain at some point but i did find out a little bit about the glasses theory you're asking about. The glasses are part of his disguised character he doesn't actually need them. I think he takes them off sometimes when he forgets his cover like he becomes impatient or whatever. The wheelchair is the same, he doesn't need it. I think its actually smart, who would expect a disabled man with impaired vision to be a villain flash. He clearly had a very elaborate plan, it takes commitment to pretend you're paralyzed. Its also incredibly messed up, which is why he's a good villain. I mean he literally teaches Barry everything, the enemy who killed his parents, in plain site pretending to be innocent. But yea every season became worse because the villains became more surface level and they didnt have enough connection with Barry or his background. With no good plot it became hard to overlook the cringe visuals.
Only made it up until the Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover in season 6, but it was definitely Grant’s performance that kept me coming back. He is a phenomenal actor ☺️
Im so happy you mentioned power rangers cuz the way half these villans where giving power rangers villan was hilarious especially after season 1💀 not gonna lie i was obsessed w the show when season 1 came but i couldnt make it past season 4 cuz
So I agree with your point where you said he woke up from the coma too fast but let me give you a little bit of context. Berry was first introduced on an episode of Arrow And he was struck by lightning in that episode. The flash TV show aired 9 months later. So for the audience that was coming from Arrow We experienced that 9 months in real time! So it didn't feel quite as rushed watching it in context but watching on its own it definitely does
When Joe was yelling at Barry in the first episode, he wasn't talking about the lightning from the night of the particle accelerator explosion, he was talking about the night his mom died. The two speedsters fighting was the lightning that Joe thought Barry made up to cope.
Doing a “First and Last” with a CW superhero show is so hilarious because these characters have been so much - multiverse battles, clones, future children appearing in present day, super weird bad guys - that not even fans who have been here since day 1 truly understand what’s going on and how we got here
I understand everything that happened
Idk what you're on about, there were some terrible plotlines every now and then but nothing was difficult to understand
@@johnitasmith6631 Please explain how Cecile can fly out of nowhere in the last season
@@user-re4lj5mj2d She ended up get psych powers in like season 4 or 5 and then the powers got stronger to when she uses psych matter she can fly by blasting psych matter from her hands
@@johnitasmith6631 so no..
The weird thing about the "Schway" scene is that that girl is Barry's daughter from the future, the villain she stabbed is an evil alternate future version of Barry, and "schway" is future slang for "cool". So she just killed a version of her own father and then smiled and said, "Cool."
I laughed so hard I cried when I first saw that scene. I imagine the writers were on cocaine or something. I hope the writer's strike fails. The people who wrote this shit deserve to work at McDonald's.
And the stabbing is a reference to a scene in season 3 where Iris was supposed to be killed that way
no one knew who savitar was, i doubt she knew
And it's a batman beyond reference
@@popasmurfyblue4901 she knew tho
“She’s not his final love interest”
God this would have made the show so much better if you were right lol.
Why
@@pjsuperior9082 Cause very little Chemistry
if only felicity didnt have oliver, they had good chemistry@@-Kaeya9827
@@pjsuperior9082 Because it was very forced
Literallyyyyyy, everyone said Iris and Barry were goals, but cmonnn the love arc for Barry and Caitlin would have been immaculateeeeeee
What’s bad about the last episode is that those villains took like a season to be defeated but they just get defeated in 2 minutes
✨Fan service✨
I agree, that pissed me off
They got defeated by the weakest of superheroes with the crepiest of powers, but it took barry 16 + episodes to beat these bozo’s
Yeah that shit made me mad
Its cause they know all there powers they have beat them already thats why
The first few seasons of arrow and flash were genuinely some of my favorite shows ever. Sad that it fell off so hard that this how I see the finale 🤦♂️
i literally quit after cisco left 😭
Right! I loved them so much in the beginning but lost interest a few seasons in.
@@earthtoivy1892 I think I gave up before that but I wouldn’t have missed him. Found on both arrow and flash the team members got really annoying to create dumb CW drama
@@earthtoivy1892Nah, it fell off long before that 😂
@@mattsterx it did but i held out hope for a long time that it would get better, obviously it did not.
So we all can agree Grant Gustin carried this entire show for 9 seasons and my dude didn't even took credit for it.
So true and that's why he is the one true flash
@@reymejiasrivera2789i second that 😊 grant gustin is the only good thing about the later seasons
That's for sure. His performance as Barry from day 1 with that Arrow episode has always been great and he's a real humble guy about it all. Would be awesome to see him in, at least, a cameo sometime in the future of Gunn's DCU
So true
Tom did a great part too
Props for Grant for giving 110% in every dang episode (even the ones we wouldn't blame him for not).
my favorite performance he did was season 4 episode 15 enter flashtime when barry had to disarm the nuke before it blew up the city and the whole episode took place in like 8 minutes. grant looked like he was going through absolute HELL.
The reason wells constantly takes his glasses off and puts them back on is because he doesn’t need them, foreshadowing the fact that he’s reverse flash who killed barry’s mom trying to play the part of a guy stuck in a wheelchair. He doesn’t need the glasses because he’s a speedster and they all have regeneration causing his eyes to just heal and be good on their own
The coma thing actually lasted nine months in real time. In Arrow they introduced Grant Gustin as the Flash with an unofficial pilot for the Flash spin off. In that episode he explained that he has dedicated his life to forensics to prove that his father didn't kill his mother since no one believed what he saw as a kid. Then after helping the Arrow take on some people with super human strength, he went back home and got hit by the particle accelerator and was put in the coma. Then nine months later, the pilot of the Flash aired and at that point there was a lot of hype built up. I watched both these shows as they aired but it's interesting watching someone without that experience react to it because it totally feels rushed and very confusing.
I was thinking the same. I don't think Dylan knows that we basically got a ton of background into Barry in a darker and slower show. And we all kinda knew it was happening so no one at the time wanted the slow burn during Ep 1. We already had it. We already saw human Barry and wanted metahuman Barry ASAP. I remember waiting for it to come on tv. I can totally see how watching like this would feel weirdly paced 😅
what country is the flash on netflix in? i have the dvds but i feel like netflix is easier considering my dvd thing is having problems
@@MutatedcorpseUSA
@@ajdixon9962 what place in the usa
@@MutatedcorpseNetflix USA
We all like Grant Gustin’s performance and we’ve all felt so sad for him being trapped, doing this show for 9 seasons.
Trapped how? This made him famous and gave him lots of money and residuals
@@suzygirl1843are we actually sure about that considering studios famously short pay their actors hence all the strikes going on
Grant gustin should be the movie flash too, not Ezra miller
@@suzygirl1843some actors are in a binder contract by time they feel like they want to move on to a new project despite being in a show that may them big they can appreciate it but still want to leave it and be trapped it 😂
@@misslaurarh If Grant is movie Barry, they're taking Candice Patton's Iris West with them. So don't cry about that
Grant is definitely THE highlight of the show. All the episodes where Barry ends up emotionally wrecked (6.7, 6.17, some of the savitar ones) are a good watch lol
As a fan of this show I’m a little upset about all the bad stuff he said about the show but what hurts me the most is that most of it is actually true😂
Frrr he doesn’t understand everything they went through in the last 9 years
Nah most of the things he said in the pilot reaction were stupid. I knew what kind of reaction I was going to get even after the first minute when started shitting on "Today" and the started complaining about him not being The Flash already. Most of the things he said were said just to give a "reaction"" and prolong the video
Moreover, he kept calling Wells' character shit without even knowing anything about him lol. I'm not hating and I disliked most of the seasons of this show but this reaction was stupid, in fact the whole concept of reacting to just first and last episode is stupid. I only watched it because I was curious
@@Doctor.Fortnite I completely agree with what you said. Most of my reaction was being annoyed at what he was saying. And also it is stupid reacting to the first and last, like what's the point, especially when we know how good seasons 1-4 were.
D*mn, ya’ll in the comments r just salty that he’s got a point.
I didn't notice Harrison taking his glasses off and on frequently until you mentioned it and now I can't stop laughing either
It’s because he’s metaphorically showing his true face as eobard, just as irony
He doesn’t need glasses so it kinda makes sense he takes them off so much
Dead ass did it every episode multiple times just to look at you
Didnt even notice
@@zhongliidonglii
Same
Dylan saying "botanist" to describe every single kind of scientist in the world is something so very funny to me😂😂😂😂
We ought to make a list of every science Dylan thinks botanists know: Animals, physics...
he thinks they study neutrons and protons 😭
It’s my favorite bit on the channel
He doesn't actually need glasses, takes them off cuz they're uncomfortable then remembers the dude he's pretending to be wears glasses
16:54 rewatching this on april 25 2024 is so satisfying
My birthday btw
@@Adamam123y HAPPY BELATED BDAYYY
@@hazywildflower22 tyty
The way even Dylan saw the chemistry with Caitlin and Barry 😭😭
IKRRRRRR
We were ROBBED
they completely changed the main love interest for oliver queen in arrow, i don’t get why they didn’t do it for the flash what with them utterly butchering iris’ character.
@@rumateez ikr
@rumateez and I still say they made a mistake, Ollie and Laurel had better chemistry, they should have went back to them and tried that move in the Flash with Barry and Caitlin.
It's actually hilarious how the effects got worst at the season finale than they were at the pilot
they slowly got worse and worse as the show went on because the budget got worse
😂😭
They shouldve kept the old crew lol
must be climate change's fault
Likely because the CW realized the show had a pretty reliable fanbase and didn’t feel the need to put up as many resources against the show, assuming the viewers would stick around even if the quality declined.
4:27 “the timeline of this feels a little weird” my thoughts with the entire arrowverse
"I'm not a botanist, IDK about like protons and electrons and ion uh electricity"
- Dylan 5:20
DW Dylan, botanists don't tend to know that stuff either lol
ure new in this channel lol
What made the Reverse Flash so dangerous was his ability to kill someone faster than they could blink. Having any speedster losing to a non speedster in reaction speed makes them feel like a joke.
Honestly. Last episode they killed everyone in the span of 10-5 minutes and every single one really should have died besides Barry and Nora if that fight was a little more realistic.
@@tr1ckboii55 that's what I'm saying like it was such a good concept but it was obviously they were just trying to rush through
Flash vs snart was the worse saga 😭
@@MaitoFelix I kinda liked it tho like I really loved snart as a character and his redemption arc didn't feel too rushed either
@@monkeytae I meant in the context that they made him seem unbeatable even tho he’s a regular person with a gun, and the end of his arc after countless eps of wanking, they end up disable his gun(as they should’ve done in the first place)
I remember watching several seasons of this, and that the solution to everything in the series is "you have to run faster that you have ever run before, Barry" and then he does 😅
stopppp I watched a couple seasons too and istg you could make an hour-long compilation just of people telling Barry he needs to run and run fast and run faster
ijbol
Barry: "I'm the fastest man alive!"
New speedster: actually I am and I'm gonna do something bad.
Anyone in team flash: Run Barry! Run!
Barry then kills the new speedster, cementing his title as fastest until the next speedster shows up, and then repeat.
@@habitsrabbit So accurate 😅🤣 They even have that This Is Very Science I Swear conversation each time about how he actually broke the laws of physics
10:23 You misunderstood. He was referring to the lightning he saw when his mother was killed, not the lightning that struck Barry.
ive never realized how many times wells takes his glasses off and it's hilarious every time actually
I remember LOVING this show when it came out when I was in middle school. Watching it slowly go from my favorite to least favorite show was a long and unfortunate journey lmao.
Me with supernatural lol
real.
Yep lol least Arrow ended strongly imo , Flash was good for 3 seasons and tells you everything you need to know about flash lore
that’s the journey with all cw shows atp 🥴
Me with the vampire diaries
The eye witness sketch looking EXACTLY like the photograph, pose and all, somehow always gets me 😂
It would be funny.. Like what dean had to do a sketch art of the suspect.. and it turned out to be stick figure. (If you have seen the show you would get it)
@@mojomatsidean fron supernatural?
Actually wheelchair Dr wells (eobard thawne) doesn't need glasses, so it hurts while seeing through it for a long time
The sheer number of times Harrison took of his glasses is astonishing. How did I never notice that?
Literally the only reason why i kept watching the show was because of Grant. His performance in the show was the best compared to the other characters, and Grant just did an overall great job. Especially considering he's in a CW show, he didn't have to go so hard during the emotional scenes, and just he excelled when it came to really selling his character. Either way, Grant is an amazing actor and did really well during his acting in this show.
I firmly believe that if they hadn't cast Grant Gustin, even the brilliance of season 1 never would've taken flight. Grant seriously nailed any scenes where he was being emotional or just a casually goofy guy, hence making the viewers root for his character even after the writing went to shit after season 3. And the fact that he carried that same level of intensity for nine whole seasons demonstrates Grant's passion, and it just overall makes me respect the guy.
@@jerrylane8351, fr, i've been scrolling through these comments and a lot of people have only kept up with the show due to being invested in Grants performance. But yes, i agree that his acting has been great from the very start, and i, and probably many others, have stayed with the show because of him. If you want to see more of Grant's performances, i recommend watching Glee, or at least the third season, since he's in it and i like how he can play a more mischievous character (not to mention his singing is just *chef's kiss*). That and Rescued by Ruby really shows Grant's acting abilities (sorry for the long paragraph).
Second best thing. Cisco’s hair was the best thing. Lol
yessss agreed
Grant act ntg like the flash in the animated movies or series bruh 😂
the fact that Dylan will never know how scary Zoom actually was is a crime lol. Also my dad used to call Eddie 'show tunes' back in season 1 and I think it's hilariously fitting
FACTS! Like Zoom was genuinely terrifying when I first watched season 2
FR Zoom was TERRIFYING but the last episode he was so unserious😔
@@tasneemali6607he looked like he was ready to break out in a lil song and dance
Bruh I remember being lowkey terrified when I saw him grab lightning
But why were we all terrified of a man named "zoom" 🥹😭🥹😭
I not only watched every episode as they released, but I also have gone back when new episodes weren't airing and watched the show through on multiple occasions throughout the years, and am currently re-watching it again as I type this (season 3 episode 16 right now). I have seen it beginning to end over 10 times, sometime around 10 I lost count and now all I know is that it's been more than 10 times, which I am aware is psychotic behavior. At the end of the day, I continue coming back and watching for three main reasons.
1: Nostalgia for how much I loved the first season. Despite the multitude of characters with bad writing/acting and the goofy effects, I still loved how they did the mystery of the man in yellow and slowly fed us info about it as the characters were in the dark, and then when the mystery is revealed it was just a good time watching how they went about trying to stop him, a very well done big bad in my opinion.
2: Time travel fuckery COMBINED WITH alternate universe fuckery. The amount of time travel/alt universe BS that they introduced in this show is genuinely off the charts, and I live and breath for every second of it. I love the absolutely unhinged timeline that this show created, and I especially love when I try to explain some minor thing from an episode I like to my friends, only to realize that what I'm talking about needs an approximately 45 minute lore dump for anyone to be on the same page as me. (Season 5's whole situation with Thawne using Nora to change the past is a great example of this time travel BS that I love so much). I ESPECIALLY love how they used time travel and alt universes to reuse the same cast members as many times as physically possible, which is why you see familiar faces in the first and last episode, but won't get to know that some of them are completely different people. For example, she's Caitlin Snow in season 1, but in season 9 that's Khione, who is a totally different person and it's only visually shown by that strip of blue hair, and that's not even covering Killer Frost, or just Frost depending on the season, who is another character that they used the same actress for who throughout the seasons had been everything from alternate personality to an alternate universe doppelganger to a whole separate person (still the same actress tho, they just had multiple of her in the same room at any given time). See what I mean about 45 minute lore dumps? God I love what this show does to my brain.
3: Grants performance in the later seasons. In my personal opinion the first four seasons are genuinely good and hold their own more often than not, maybe the fifth season too but that may just be because Nora (daughter from the future Nora, not dead mom Nora or living embodiment of the speed force Nora) is one of my favorite characters. After seasons 4-5 there isn't really a great reason to keep watching unless you are a huge fan of Grants acting. You've gotten the highest highs that the show has to offer and get to avoid the lowest lows that it has as well.
Also therapy doesn't help, if you are one of the rare few that love this show like I do, there's no coming back from it.
Having this much love for something is actually so amazing and i respect the hell out of you dude
i agree with u bro i love this show and i dont understand how ppl dont like it. i do agree that the seasons after season 4 got worse and at the villans that once were really cool like the reverse flash were so much worse in the newer seasons
deciding to randomly watch this video, for the first time, on April 25, 2024 after not watching Dylan for months is insanity
Dylan realizing that Nora is their daughter that hasn't been born yet is the most I have felt seen as a flash fan
They seem to forget Bart.
Wait, did that happen to you, too?!
I had big Charmed flashback. But it was cool back there.
@@suzygirl1843Bart is younger
@@WargasmoI remember being confused AF about her existence just like Dylan and even more about why she's staying in that timeline. Like when baby Nora is a child will they tell her that that grown ass woman is also her? 😂
During the first few seasons of the show, they had Grant Gustin actually run on a treadmill for the speed running, but after that they had him only move his arms and make it seem like he was running because they never really show his legs. That’s why it looks so goofy when he runs in the later seasons.
If I may ask, for my own personal understanding, wouldn't that be because in the earlier seasons he runs at a certain speed but in the later seasons he's constantly breaking barriers and going back and forth in time so realistically they couldn't achieve that same consistancy in videography having Grant just run on the treadmill? Or am I completely off here?
@@Tinkvampbite89 no, they just explain he's going faster through dialogue. later seasons through the use of poor cgi/budget and different running styles, everyone else sucked except for grant and rick cosnett (the cobalt blue character that dylan watched in the finale)
@@Tinkvampbite89 No Grant Gustin said in an interview with Conan O’Brien (I think) that they noticed that most of the shots where he was running only showed his torso and up, so they decided they didn’t have to use the treadmill anymore since it was just a waste.
Actually i love how it takes an entire season sometimes 2 seasons to get rid of the speedsters but then at the end it took all of 5 seconds to kill all of them at once including savitar who is supposed to know everything that happens in the future
Me and my mom watch the entirety of the show and what kept us going was the love and character development through all 9 seasons (and the villain's that you didn't see)
The concept of the Flash actually just brutally ripping someone apart because he’s moving too fast is literally the opening scene to The Boys, if anyone is ever interested in the concept of superhumans painted as super heroes gone horribly wrong.
I LOVE the boys. It's so compelling to watch and Homelander freaks me out
Yes! I came here to say this exact thing
I was thinking the exact same thing! I love The Boys so much!
@@astaldogalHomelander is awful!! Gotta love him 😂
The Boys is such a great show, but I can only watch each season once bc of the hyper-realistic political issue portrayals.
rewatching this hurts even more, especially when you've watched every season and know how good the villains used to be, it hurts so much seeing what happened to them towards the end of the season
savitar case never sat right wit me
The first seasons were magic. I never rewatch everything, only the good seasons haha. It has so much potential
@finjuno2372 Savitar was when I stopped watching. Knowing full well it was CW dreck, I still enjoyed it for some reason. After Savitar I just couldn't be bothered.
Literally 😭 I love the first few seasons.... Then it just.... Like my soul being sucked away each more season gone by....
The absolute trash that was the final season is mind blowing. How do you condense an entire final season of a show fans absolutely adore from 22 episodes to just 13 and have almost the entirety of those 13 episodes that has SO MUCH source material be filler garbage that no one wanted or needed. The fact that they didn’t actually show the moments that made Barry and Eobards enemies instead of just having them talk about it. The fact that speedforce Barry mentions tornado twins and we don’t get that pay off, the fact that we don’t even see Barry ever create Gideon. So many moments we deserved and didn’t get it’s so frustrating. They had the opportunity to do something cool with Eddie and cobalt blue and they did nothing. They could have had a final real speedster battle at the bed with all the good speedsters against the evil ones and nope. The fact that Carlos said he wanted to come back for the finale as Cisco but the show runners wouldn’t give him time to finish his other projects. There was just so much that didn’t need to happen.
What kept me going is throughout every single season the emotion just got more harsher, and it was just heartfelt. It touched my heart and a lot different ways and it is literally my whole life.
loving it when Dylan watch teenage movies/shows
because his channel is literally for.. teenagers
It's crazy how they all get destroyed so quickly in the last episode, knowing that each of those villains had a whole season
They were poor Speed Force copies at best.
Would have been better if their wasnt that red death stuff. Maybe have the season be where barry has to face off against his speedster villains one by one in an episode each. Where the villains dont know why their back and that they are gunna use that opportunity to have one last crack at killing flash.
Use the episodes to build up to eddie thawne and then have him reveal to barry that he sent them and that when they die he absorbed their speed force, maybe have him appear to do that so when hes in the final episode he would have had build up. Maybe he could have worn the cobalt blue suit in those scenes so its not limited to just one episode.
@@AprilMoon7 bro let's just call it what it was. bad writing. the majority of the last season was terrible.
I think they mainly did that to emphasize how much the characters have grown as super heroes.
@@molly_parker_1847 it did not do that, mainly ruined the villians and made it feel so rushed
I would love to see Dylan do a first and last to every Arrowverse show 😂 (I say this as someone who loved the whole Arrowverse, through all the good and bad)
Yesss
Dude I was just thinking this. I need this to be down so I can here dylan say how dumb the last ep is (coming from someone who watched the show through and loved and hated it at the same time)
"For someone who claims to love it, you sure do complain about it a lot."
~ My Friend
Sammeeee I want him to do legends, arrow, and supergirl
@@urlocalbisexual_asantae dude legends was my bitch I loved that show
23:10 stop running like that. Sir this is flash, they run
THIS WAS SO GREAT I DIDNT KNOW I NEEDED THIS
Grant's performance is the best in the show. However when you dont watch the entire show, you miss Tom Cavanagh's performance. He has had to play 10+ different versions of the same character. He is really good in most seasons when he isnt playing Eobard Thawne. Thawne sorta got bland later on however it could be they were going for the "he has a huge ego" approach
First season eobard was good
Agreed throng
The first season is actually pretty mind-blowing. Once you get past the initial hammy episodes, the heartfelt acting and highly creative plot beats built up to a brilliant finale. Sadly, the writers started losing their minds after season 3 or 4. Only reason I stuck around to season 5 was due to Grant Gustin and the character of Cisco (who's absolutely hilarious).
well they didn't have a dedicated writing team! at least not for the first few seasons.
I stopped watching during season 5 bc Nora just annoyed me every episode
@@MsJadaliciousNora is like a mini iris and iris is horrible
I got so fed up with all the crossover episodes. In a time when most people are streaming and binge watching, crossovers do not work. I probably would have finished this show and arrow if not for those.
I’m sorry Cisco, but to me you’ve been dead for centuries
should’ve won and Emmy! I’m just speaking facts. Sorry
i love how you said this out of my mind about the finale. I hope the director sees this
If he’d seen all 9 seasons he would understand the first episode with thawne saying run barry run!
I honestly didn't even know The Flash had ended, so thanks for putting this up Dylan
neither did i 😂
It did very recently
it like just ended a few months ago
9 seasons is WILD. I think I maybe watched 4 seasons
@@ojs5988 i watched every single season but i will admit that it started getting a little much after season 5 😭
Dylan not having any idea about Nora or that Khionne and Caitlin aren't the same person is hilarious
The Nora thing was funny 😂
Caitlin should've died. When she brought Ronnie/ DeathStorm back I thought that was her cue but they took Frost instead, who has had more growth than Caitlyn. I made no sense to bring Khione when it should've been a storyline about Frost accepting Caity's death and building a new life with Chillblaine since he was useless.
@@sweetlids2898 agreed. I didn't really understand why they killed both Caitlin and Frost and kept the actress in as a new character. It didn't really make sense as a viewers stand point
@@caemarie83 wait, they did that? I didnt get far enough in the show so that’s crazy wow
I’m guessing one of these is Danielle Pannabaker’s character. He totally missed her say she was in a MORTAL body. I was like woah wtf happened in her plot line lol. Also figured that had to do with her dry acting because this immortal person in a mortal body is just dry and finds it all not that big of a threat.
I watched this show all the way through because the first two seasons pulled me in and I really enjoyed it. and then I started watching all of the other shows that were in the arrow verse and the crossovers made the flash better because of the ties to the arrow and Oliver. Then I binge watched all of the shows a lot and I still do go back and watch the shows over and over.
9:20-9:30 - Me watching this in Grayscale when he's changing his lights: "I'm watching in grayscale so nothing looks different to me!" 😂
You have to keep in mind, this first episode is a pilot. The pilots are made separately from the rest of the show, and they usually have a more sped up story arc
Or the show is shitty💀
Are we all just ignoring the fact that Dylan confidently stated he was not a botanist when describing the science behind the lightning bolt…
you're new here huh 😭
Once again. He has a thing for calling people that have nothing to do with botanists "botanists" lol
Oh so you're a Newbie😂. welcome to the troublemaker club.
More like Boltanist
Hey, maybe lightning and plants are related, I'm not a meteorologist
24:50 I love his reaction
I quit watching the flash when it was nearing the last season, but I will say the last episode was like a slap in the face. It took a whole season to defeat each “main” villain, but it took one episode to defeat those same villains so easily.
as many people have mentioned, grant gustin's acting skills is probably the one thing that managed to be consistent throughout the series, the writing they gave him not so much but grant did a great job.
at least now we know that its not the directors fault its the background and writers that were payed poorly and thats why we got shitty seasons after season 4
@@blessingaduseithe directing was kind of ass imo, grant was like the only good thing an the show lmao
@@blessingadusei the current happenings in hollywood sure are shedding a lot of light into why so many shows suffered.
the cgi for the flash in episode 1 was actually incredible. sadly the vfx got worse every season as they dropped the budget due to decreased viewer count
Same happens to every CW show :/...except for Supernatural, that shid was dope as hell
@@ianagulino6653except tvd
@@ianagulino6653it feels like supernatural saved their CGI budget until their crazy last story arc lol 😂
@@vastos2587 and then ruined the show by making the finale a 2 part episode where the second part is actually just 15 minutes and the very last scene is both Jensen and Jared being like 'this is just a show, none of this is real' ;(
Dylan saying, "yeah, nice and deep" will forever be imprinted in my mind. Thanks Dylan :p ;)
The worst part about the last episode was the villains. They were all supposedly given speed boosts from the negative speedforce, but somehow Godspeed was slower than Cecil giving him a headache, Zoom is slower than lightning (He caught a lightning bolt in season 2), Thawne was slower than Allegra's light beams (He's faster than light, and what should've happened is Thawne taking Allegra's heart out of her chest), and Savitar, like goddamn he was nerfed. The worst one of all was Savitar because for starters, he was faster than Barry in season 3, who was faster than Zoom, who is faster than her and how do I know that? It's because this is a new Nora and the old Nora was erased in the timeline so this new Nora didn't learn from Thawne, therefore she is slower than the original Nora, so Savitar without the Speed Boost still should have defeated Nora but no, she kills her own father. Guaranteed the worst writing ever.
Honestly, while the show declined later on, I highly recommend watching the first two seasons, or at least just the first season. They really do a good job of creating a story and characters that you're invested in, especially season 1.
I've watched up to s3 and then rewatched s1 and 2. I have a poster of him on my wall and used to say he was my favourite superhero. I am simply ignoring the other seven seasons
The later seasons aren't good.
@@athroneoflies8785 agreed
Yeah I watched the first 3 or 4 season and I loved it. Then I just started the next one and it SUCKED
S1 through early 6 are okay s4 through 6 arent as good but not fully ass
30:00 The actress for Caitlyn/Khionne/Frost was actually playing 3 different personalities. Khionne was the last one that was not human and did not have a strong grasp on emotions. She is more of a personification of the elements, than a human. She was alive for less than a year, so it actually fit to have her not showing much emotions.
Edit: Holy shit, I just realized that actress was in Sky High.
The writers of this show weren't good enough to undermine the trope of the born yesterday character to do this. That sort of character, new to human life, is WAY more child like. That means volatile emotions and naive. If she's the personification of the elements, and somehow knows about existence for thousands of years or whatever, she should STILL have volatile emotions as the concept of the elements- earth, fire, water, air- are tied to emotions.
It's really too bad for Caitlyn's actress. Her opportunity to actually act in the show was hog tied the moment they introduced Killer Frost as her double. And when Killer Frost replaced Caitlyn... that was when I stopped watching. The quality of writing had really slipped by that point, and I couldn't stomach the camp anymore. And this is coming from someone who happily watched ALL of Xena: Warrior Princess.
she was bad at acting since season 1
Yes exactly right. That part of the review bugged me. He has not seen it all, so he does not know.
Also, Khionne was like a couple of weeks old lol
Poor baby was like four months old. But tbh, I only really watched for Caitlin because at some point I got annoyed by Barry & then ALL the side characters (specifically Allegra & Chester) came in and Cisco left and that was my last straw. But his point about making side characters valuable is so true because at some point the show as a whole became ALL about only focusing on WA (not that it’s a bad thing but it kinda is) so there wasn’t much connection towards the other characters. I came to love Caitlin’s character mostly because how they showed her struggle within the first four seasons,but then KF became her replacement and the writers as a whole stopped caring about her development. Then towards her end in season 8, where she’s actually going through the trauma of Frost, instead of giving her a plot line that didn’t include Ronnie, they kill her off and replace her. She seems like a bad character but tbh the writers did her dirty from the beginning and it seems like they only kept her there for the plot but once her character has a Chance to be valuable they replace her with another version of ‘herself’. It’s understandable why she didn’t finish out season eight (DP was pregnant) but when she died the season was already over so it just made no sense to kill her.
seeing you be completely confused about Nora specifically was so fucking funny
i took a (7 year) break because i started it as a child, then went back recently to finish it. once the show started to get bad, like season 4/5, i kept going for two reasons
1. i was originally watching it with my brothers, but they had moved out between the first watch and finishing it, so it felt like hanging out with them again
2. but more importantly, i refuse to be beaten by a cw show
i started my second rewatch a couple of weeks ago for some reason, so i guess i liked it enough
The fact that Dylan will never know the context of nora saying "schway" has brightened my day forever.
It's schwarbage.
I stopped watching at season 5 bc Nora annoyed me sooo much
I never watched up to that season but I got some mild spoilers. Is Nora basically the CW version of Bart Allen? The writers gave him a time travelling daughter instead of a time travelling grandson?
@@sophienah4654 yeah basically
Lol it’s stupid even with context 😂
This is a show I started as a teen and was obsessed with. It definitely peaked and never recovered but I stuck around for Grant Gustin until the end and can say it was a great part of my teen to young adult years.
So can you tell us why that guy was always taking glasses off and putting them on like Dylan asked 😂? Did it had any meaning? Since you watched the show. I'm curious.
@@crowlynnaTom Cavanaugh, who played Harrison Wells and many other iterations of the character did a fantastic job in the show too!
Wells is actually the villain Eobard Thawne that killed Barry's mum. So with the glasses, an assessment I saw on Reddit that makes total sense to me is that it's widely observed that Wells tends to take off his glasses when he's telling the truth or his 'Eobardness' comes through... I hope that kinda makes sense
pretty much same.
I was actually still entertained until season 7 but then they did the whole "these grown adult supervillains possesed by forces of nature are my children" and I actually bailed. I did return for the final season just because i invested so much of my life into it.
Same Grant Gustin and because I'd loved how the show used to be and wanted to see it end was why I kept watching though the last couple seasons or so got so bad that I'd usually put it on in the background while doing cleaning or something, and then skipped all those awful episodes that didn't have Barry in the show
Slay
This show was wonderfully cheesy and I loved every bit of it. You can't take it too seriously you'll hate it but if you go into it looking to just have fun it's a great time.
i thought the constant removal of the glasses was intentional to foreshadow the fact that Wells is actually Eobard Thawne, therefore he doesn’t actually need glasses, giving that little hint
You misunderstood the Joe yelling at Barry scene. He was saying that barry was imagining the lightning storm that was in his childhood living room the night his mother died, not imagining the lightning bolt that (unknowingly to Joe) gave him powers. At this point in the story, it is believable to Barry that he could've just imagined the lightning storm in his living room killing his mom, because it was the reverse flash and an older version of himself traveling back in time.
Yeah, I was wondering if someone was gonna comment about this cuz Dylan got it all wrong
@@nohemitrevino1177me too! I came looking for this comment haha
He also misunderstood the reason Iris and Eddie were hiding their relationship. They weren’t hiding it from Barry, as she didn’t even suspect he liked her, they were hiding it from Joe.
Also the reason Cisco had the suit
Basically he missed a _lot_ of what was actually happening in the episode... 🙄
I watched EVERY SINGLE EPISODE, from season 1 to season 9...the thing that kept me watching:
Season 1: The mystery surrounding the man in yellow, then when that was revealed, the "how we gonna stop him" feeling.
Season 2: Zoom was just a great villain
Season 3: Savitar was an interesting concept, and also I couldn't wait to see Iris die, but then she didn't.
Season 4: Devoe (the main villain) was just always like 4 parallel universes ahead of Barry and the gang, and I really enjoyed that. Also Devoe was played by a South African Actor, and being South African myself, it was fun seeing someone I know in such a big role.
Season 5: Grant Gustin's Acting
Season 6: Grant Gustin's Acting
Season 7: Grant Gustin's Acting
Season 8: Grant Gustin's Acting
Season 9: Grant Gustin's Acting, and them wrapping up loose ends like the episode Barry and Thawne fights the night his mother died, and the episode where Arrow comes back.
That's about it...
in summary, the best thing from this show, is the memories we made...and Grant Gustin's acting.
Yeah I stopped in the middle of season 3 and came back just to watch all of season 9, just to know how it all wrapped up. Grant carried the show
fr tho after s4 the show became just sad i watched all the episodes too lmao
my favorite season was zoom
I stopped at like season five I think because I could not take Iris anymore and then his daughter was just as annoying
@@Steph489 yeah, Barry should have stayed with Patty Spivot. Bet their kid wouldn't have been as annoying as Nora
the lighting he was talking bout was not from the lab but from his house wen his mother died
Every time a new season would come out I would rewatch the show from the beginning, but in the end what kept me to watch the show all the way through was the story. I wanted to see what the story was going to be like for the show and overall it was good
The glasses on Tom cavanough are a plot point 😂
He dosent actually need glasses, but he took the body of someone who had glasses so he could make Barry the flash, but he dosent need them so him constantly taking them off is a hint to his real identity
For some reason that doesn’t entirely take away from the cringe factor 😂
Have the show creators never heard about a marvelous thing called eye contacts? He could have told them he was wearing them while actually not and no one would have suspected a thing. Was that covered sometime and a reason given for not using that idea?
@@adidi7789 that’s what sucks about some storytelling, you need to avoid logic sometimes to show, and not tell your audience. Thawne is a moron that didn’t use contacts, so that writers could fit in little kernels of mystery, that is almost immediately solved. But if you think this is bad, you should see any single episode from season 7, pick one and your brain dies
yea but it was overused and cringe asf
@@sakurakiefluvr yes.
it is tragic dylan will never know how good the first three seasons were… for a CW show. it’s so nostalgic for me and the storyline is genuinely captivating. and the villains were terrifying!
Lmao. The villains were people like captain cold, a normal guy with a gun. Multiple episodes where Barry couldn't defeat him. It's embarrassing when you actually look at how many of the problems Barry faces could have been avoided if he actually used his brain and used superspeed like he should be using it.
Yup, you right @@Frank___hassle__! Don’t forget main villains after Season 3 such as vegetable (smort) guy in chair, or normal guy with a dagger! The latter is even more offensive than Captain Cold because he was hyped as MAIN BIG THREAT. “The one who got away” my ass.
Oliver was right. Barry needs daily pep talks in his ears to activate even 5% of his brain.
@@jasonnguyen2575 Ah yes, "the smartest man alive," can't forget that embarrassment of a character, and yeah that's for sure. And it's annoying to no end that Cicada only exists because Barry didn't knock out Thawne in crisis on earth x AND knock out Dumboe, cuff him, and relocate him to prison at any point during season 4 like he should have done numerous times. But still, Cicada isn't a speedster, his dumb power dampening field can't move at superspeed anyways, and we know it's not automatic, he actually has to manually enable it himself, and even if it was automatic, it still can't move at superspeed. Cicada should have been defeated in the first episode. He even could have stopped Zoom in season 2. In episode 18, he had Zoom temporarily subdued, all he had to do was knock him out and relocate him to the pipeline, but instead he decided to talk to him for over 2 minutes and let him escape. Which got Wally kidnapped, Barry's speed taken, Caitlin kidnapped, the cops at Jitters killed, and Barry's dad killed. And people have the audacity to call this show good. It's embarrassing.
@@Frank___hassle__ eh that’s fair. I meant more like zoom, savitar. not the normal guys with guns 😭 I do agree there were so many plot holes and there was no consistency in how his super speed worked, but considering I first watched the show when I was like.. 8? 9? it didn’t quite matter back then
Personally I used to love this show, I think its complete dog shit now (the entire thing btw), Grant Gustins great however, iris is annoying as shit, and the plot holes are too much
When he said "she's still here" to Khione not knowing what actually happened 😭😭😭
I watched the whole series, and it was totally worth it. It showed emotion and character. I loved it.
I thought they would never end this show, it lasted 5 seasons longer than it should have
It lasted 6 seasons too long, imo. Season 3's ending would've been a great stopping point.
@@Demonmagnos ikr every season it was the same plot over and over about a bad fast guy and saving the timeline
That’s how I feel about Pretty Little Liars they were grasping after season 6 episode 11
@@shekoofamehri7618 it's pretty much every cw show honestly
Ah yes. The classic CW way. Making 4 great seasons of a show and then keeping it going WAY too long
In fact, I'm sad that the "first and last" scheme takes away the PURE MADNESS that is present in CW series somewhere in the middle of the plot, when neither the characters, nor the audience, nor the writers understand what is happening and where all these children and plotlines came from.
The Flash can run up to 8.3 million mph in The Flash Season 9 without tapping into his extra energy source.
"I'm not a botanist. I don't know all those electrons and neutrons and whatever" 💀
Thawne was more scary in season 1 removing his glasses then season 9 actually as a character
i dont know he didnt watch full serie and he didnt know why thawn is in strees
@@redonuflla3985what?
I do like how Caitlin was reused 3 times and Harrison wells was reused an infinite number of times 😅
and eddie thawn 2 times
@@thewonder46 yeah but he was still the same person
what happened to caitlin and why did they call her khione ? i stopped watching the flash after like season 5
@@reynaafigueroa it wasn’t her it was a like god or something that had been created in a lab to bring frost back to life after she died in the session before the final one
@@reynaafigueroa Caitlin sacrificed herself to create frost again but ended up creating khione
The fact that bro has zero context to the story and Grant Gustin still manages to make him feel the emotion and weight of the scene shows just how much the CW let grant down
I watched this show from/through season 1 to 9 because of the mix of events the story line and the fact of the impossible made possible, the overall watch/view of the show only marks up when you watch the whole show to see overwhelming series of events and changes because of Barry's tragic past/backstory and the generation of the timeline, also it was weird but amazing to see Nora Allen's appearance as the speed force and Jay Garrick's wife. To be honest this is 16th time watching the show from season 1 again
Literally zoom and savitar were the best rivals the show's ever seen and i hated how easily they were defeated in the finale. How in the world did Nora kill Savitar in two seconds when it took the entrie team a whole season to defeat him initally? Like i was so hyped seeing all the rival speedsters come back in the last ep but they were too easily defeated for the amount of terror they used to be
And how did Nora's stab kill Savitar? When Barry used phasing to break the blade and Jesse Quick stabbed Savitar he acted like it was nothing. Why is Nora's stab so much stronger than Jesse's?
Nora go an earfull of the stories her entire life growing up she probably dreampt of the moment
IM SAYINNNNNN YOU ATE THIS FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT 🙌🙌
It was because Barry got so much faster through like 6 seasons and Bart and Nora got faster as well
God.. this guy always finds nitpicking and flaws which audience doesn't even think of! nor do the writers! NEVER ever thought of all these issues. Because they don't exist it's fictional! and even if it was in the EXACT same way he wanted, he would STILL find different flaws. Some people will shit talk no matter what. Dylan is one of them
Cisco already had the suit made. He says when talking to Barry that it was designed to replace firefighter uniforms. He's just using it for Barry.
And the first time he wears it, it has a gas mask/whatever firefighters have on their masks then you watch him take it off when he confronts Mardon
I think he spent too much time nitpicking that he forgot to listen what was going on in the story.
i love these you should do it with 9-1-1!!
"The explosion that put you in a coma also killed my fiance" - Distraught woman
"So you're single?" - Dylan
5:38 That's why you gotta watch Arrow concurrently with this show. In Arrow we meet Barry and his coworkers and we get to live through those 9 months he was in a coma. They mention how Iris spends a lot of time visiting him so this reunion does feel earned if you've seen Arrow.
I just couldn't get through Arrow XD
That makes sense
@@Narra0002yeah the shows on CW while they were running where all congruent, but The Flash became the “Anchor” replacing Arrow after they had their second season, so it kinda became you didn’t have to watch the other shows since most characters (outside of arrow) all came from the flash (literally like legends of tommorow or whatever that show was, like the whole team was from The Flash.)
Dylan just complicated the prologue ep. It was straight to the point, nothing confusing to audience. Understood it first time I saw it, its normal. You've to be a special type of idiot to get confused by it or be pedantic about it. But that's how soe youtubers milk content
I think that's a mistake by the CW, it's what got Marvel in it's current trouble. If you don't watch the Disney+ shows you basically have no idea what is going on.
It’d be fun to see a “best and worst” of a show. The contrast for some shows would be galactic.
YES
I vote Supernatural😂
Probably Swan Song and Bugs right? But the thing is I don't know if Swan Song is as great as it is without context
do you mean their best rated episodes and worst rated ones, taking the highest and lowest from each season or the entire show overall? because that’s absolutely genius and i’d love to see that
that would be a good idea, maybe the 100
@@lara.z7393 yesss
Insomnia is kicking my ass, perfect time to binge Dylan.
I remember enjoying this show purely for Grant Gustin’s performance, idk why but he reminds me so much of Blake Lively…I think it’s the mouth area; the way they speak. He was such a good Flash imo. 9:30 😂
14:52 ahhh that laugh 🥰😄 so cute
18:15 🤣 22:47 I love when that face morphing effect is used 😅 23:46
27:55
I went through all 9 seasons season 2 is my favourite the villain in the black suit wasmy favourite because they made him a threat with the 6 episode build up mystery of whoche was and the lighting and effects made him a litteral demon, so yeah. It was hard going through the whole show as i grew up, ps i was born 2010 and the show started 2014.
Dylan put more thought into flash’s powers that the entire team of writers.
i didnt finish the show lol it became a pain at some point but i did find out a little bit about the glasses theory you're asking about. The glasses are part of his disguised character he doesn't actually need them. I think he takes them off sometimes when he forgets his cover like he becomes impatient or whatever. The wheelchair is the same, he doesn't need it. I think its actually smart, who would expect a disabled man with impaired vision to be a villain flash. He clearly had a very elaborate plan, it takes commitment to pretend you're paralyzed. Its also incredibly messed up, which is why he's a good villain. I mean he literally teaches Barry everything, the enemy who killed his parents, in plain site pretending to be innocent. But yea every season became worse because the villains became more surface level and they didnt have enough connection with Barry or his background. With no good plot it became hard to overlook the cringe visuals.
The wheelchair also had something that made him faster in it
Only made it up until the Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover in season 6, but it was definitely Grant’s performance that kept me coming back. He is a phenomenal actor ☺️
Im so happy you mentioned power rangers cuz the way half these villans where giving power rangers villan was hilarious especially after season 1💀 not gonna lie i was obsessed w the show when season 1 came but i couldnt make it past season 4 cuz
So I agree with your point where you said he woke up from the coma too fast but let me give you a little bit of context. Berry was first introduced on an episode of Arrow And he was struck by lightning in that episode. The flash TV show aired 9 months later. So for the audience that was coming from Arrow We experienced that 9 months in real time! So it didn't feel quite as rushed watching it in context but watching on its own it definitely does
Its also a pilot episode so its just like a test run that they need to get more stuff in faster
Dylan doing Jane the Virgin for this series would be HILARIOUS
Facts
It has so much murder, he would love it
So so good
SUCH. a good show 😭
Also, the speedsters do strides when they run, and it talks about it. That's why they look like that in that angle when they're running
When Joe was yelling at Barry in the first episode, he wasn't talking about the lightning from the night of the particle accelerator explosion, he was talking about the night his mom died. The two speedsters fighting was the lightning that Joe thought Barry made up to cope.