Walter White's disappointment in getting less money from the first cook | Breaking Bad
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- Breaking Bad is an American television series created by Vince Gilligan, the show follows the story of Walter White, a high school chemistry teacher who is diagnosed with terminal lung cancer. In order to provide for his family after he's gone, Walter turns to cooking and selling methamphetamine with his former student, Jesse Pinkman. The show explores themes of morality, power, and the consequences of one's choices.
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That feeling when you pay taxes for the first time 😢
More admirable to share money with criminals than with the IRS.
@@kaj7135The biggest theives of all.
I don't mind paying taxes. It's when I realize that I'm paying more in taxes as a percentage and total amount than someone earning 10 times what I make.
@@brad4571 That’s exactly why you *should* mind. Taxes are for absolutely nothing but keeping the poor poor and the rich rich.
@@kaj7135clearly you don’t understand how taxes work
Walter didn't know anything about the process of distribution itself, he just knew the chemistry.
The higher you climb up the ladder the more palms you have to grease!
Well, he don't have 20 years of process like Gus
@@fellino8049 And he could never amount to being Gus
Gus created an empire his entire life. Walter is just a cook with two connections, Jesse who is completely useless at this point and Mike who is everything Walter needed
Walter acts like a teenager getting his first paycheck and wondering who this FICA fella is.
Oh I just love paying into a ponzi scheme that's on track to go bankrupt long before I retire.
Lol😂
LMAO u just won the entire net ✌✌😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Poor Jesse. He's like a child trying to break a fight between his parents
Imagine if they were married? Walter would always wear the apron
@@selffless1No.
I think Jesse is the adult in the room.
@blipsauce1143 I was talking about Mike & Walt . Not jesse and walt
@@ripping6900 Dont know about that, but he is surely the most evil person in the room.
Walter is learning about the cost of being boss especially with his action on killing Gus
its a rough spot cuz he didn't gus would probably kill him too no?
@@Aganie.because of his ego the arrangement with Gus could have worked fine for him.
"Killing Jesse James doesn't make you Jesse James"
Incredible line
@@Aganie.Yeah Gus would have killed him too. At that point when it happened it came down to either Walt or Gus. In the moment Walt did it for survival.
@@Aganie. Once Gus was confident in Jesse's skills, it was a wrap for Walter. Payback for Gale. Might have eventually been a wrap for Jesse as well... if Gus found out Jesse was the trigger man.
The funny thing is Walt doesn't even realize a giant chunk of the take-outs from the first cook, were one-time expenses, the 110 piece of the business and the over 100 that went to Jesse for the start-up loan, were one-time bits. Which meant his next cook was going to see an increase at least closer to 200k. And as their efficiency in what they could produce would go up it would rise even more. Being upset when literally most of your up front expenses are paid after one payday is showing a real lack of understanding of business. They were miles ahead. Most businesses take 1-3 years to pay back their start-up loans and start churning any kind of profit.
It's not about business, it's about ego.
he didnt give a shit about the money, he was just mad cuz he had to pay anything at all, he has no understanding of what it means to be a drug kingpin and thought every dollar out of his pay was robbery, especially the prisoner money
@@MichaelT- I agree. Walt's weakness has always been his huge ego. It really blinds him from seeing the big picture longterm.
Absolutely, well said
6:12 i love how after mike says "because it's what you do." jesse looks away like "awwww shit this is gonna get nasty."
5:25
By the way Mike was scratching his cheek, he knew this was going to lead to an argument
Yeah... I find it bizarre how people act like they'd be perfectly chill with cooking M for several months to then get paid. To THEN have to give up 117k of it to some stranger you don't know; all so they don't snitch. Meanwhile; Mike is STILL sold out by one of these guys...
Some reasons why I would agree with Mike:
1. Mike's expertise is worth a temporary cost inflation. If that's his terms, it's worth it to me.
2. Paying guys for their loyalty is a better insurance policy than murder. If anything slipped up even slightly with the coordinated murder, they would have been doomed.
3. If Walt is truly in the Empire business and not a quick cash grab, you build loyalty. If he does right by them, they know they can trust them and will be less likely to confess, which will spread in their organization.
Well here are some reasons why I believe that Mike is incorrect, just from my own experience, Walter clearly understood better how to maximise the businesses longevity imo.
I agree with Walter for three reasons, each supported by specific examples, Walt is better in every way despite his ruthlessness:
1. Mikes decision to involve external mules introduces additional risks. Unlike Gus, who built a secure and self-contained distribution network over 20 years, Mike's reliance on mules makes the operation more vulnerable to law enforcement and betrayal. For instance, paying 20% to mules highlights a lack of established infrastructure, increasing exposure to potential leaks and threats. Imagine if even one mule were caught. The whole ship would crash like a steam train, Walt clearly saw this too.
2. Mike's approach to covering legacy costs and ensuring the silence of former employees can drain resources and create ongoing financial strain. Unlike Gus, who didn't have these additional expenditures, Mike's decision to pay legacy costs adds significant ongoing expenses, such as the $351,000 mentioned, which can undermine the profitability and sustainability of the operation. This is a business reason, Walt clearly saw a better vision for the future. Smart crime, not dumb & outdated crime like Mike.
3. Mike's leadership style, marked by intimidation and unilateral decision-making, "This is business, end of story" this here can create resentment and instability within the team. For example, his unwillingness on covering the costs himself, despite objections from Walt and his valid reasons, demonstrates a lack of acceptance that they were 'his guys' when he could just have them wiped out and killed, he showed loyalty to men who no longer mattered in the success of the operation. This approach can lead to fractures within the team and diminish overall effectiveness especially due to his hatred for Walt which grew up until he got smoked by Walt. Which proves that his hatred let to his demise.
This is proof that Mike didn't have Walt's ability to see into the future.
@@geogoddd Sure Gus had way better transportation infrastructure for his drug empire, but those took 20 years to build. Unless you have a time machine, paying external mules a high price is the next best thing. Maybe Walt could have built that system in time but if they need to sell their product today they dont really have an alternative.
@@geogoddd- What other options were there? If they killed them, wouldn’t that arouse suspicions even further? And yes, technically speaking, the muhles could’ve snitched, but so could’ve Lydia
Killing your guys anytime they go to prison would just create disloyalty and make people more prone to snitching if caught, why should they trust their boss if they’re just gonna get murdered for being imprisoned?
Paying external mules might be the only option, sure, but 20% is a bit ridiculous for transportation. They should get a maximum of 5%.
That Jesse James line while cool got Mike killed
As the series got darker so did Jesse's clothes
they didnt do a very good job of negotiating all the terms with each other before actually going into business. how the hell is walt surprised at all these costs mikes laying on him after the first job? was none of this discussed beforehand?
Walter being naive about the whole cost of running a business.But I think mike deliberately Did.
Not tell him Until after the cooking
@@epicstyle1000how much of that $300k going to his grand daughter box ?? Mike definitely withheld all the payouts, so Walt had a legit beef.
It was weak writing tbh.
3:52 he may not have had "mules" but the system he had could not have been cheap. Hence why he told Walt that a lot of meth needed to be made each week to make his operation economically viable
I’m sure he could’ve been economically viable with far less but wealth is power and he needed to increase his wealth drastically to take out the salamancas
I think it’s a return of investment, 20 years is a lot of time. Definitely expensive like you stated but I think Los Pollos Hermano’s income paid majority/all shipping and convenient in large quantities.
After Better Call Saul, you really see what went into Gus' business. The man took BIG RISKS and they thankfully paid off, and he made sure to build it up slowly. The after effects of BCS just makes me OUTRAGEOUSLY annoyed with Walt each subsequent time I watch BB. Lol like sure, Gus was not a great person, but Walt strolled into his life and devastated YEARS of work, because he had an unquenchable ego.
You are forgetting that the legit business, the fast food busines, made him a lot of money already. It wasnt *just* to cover the meth business.
@@Jose-se9pu exactly! Gus was a very good businessman, Walt was an ego maniac. Lol
People acting like they wouldn't be salty over a 117k legacy cost for peeps you don't know, and who could snitch on you anytime. 😅
Shouldn't have killed Gus ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@chriswelcome8102Gus shouldn't have been hellbent on killing walt
@@clockwork6020 No
@@chriswelcome8102 And perhaps Gus should've respected Jesse's morals instead of trying to manipulate him to turn him against walt. Morals of not wanting children to be used, which Walt respected and protected Jesse for.
Nvm I just remembered Walt literally used Brock, so pretend I never said respected, he ain't respect shit
This is the exact moment that Walter White was disappointed in getting less money from the first cook
Bravo Vince!
This is the exact moment where this is the exact moment was overused by another commenter
A factually correct statement.
For some reason I like how they're all different age groups/generations. Reminds me of the Guadalajara Cartel almost. There's like something beautiful or poetic about it, about just the overall power of camaraderie.
It’s almost comical that Walt didn’t know gus used his own trucks
People forget that waging wars come at a huge cost, this right here is no different than an economy trying to bounce back post war, if walt's ego was swallowed here and he kept his mouth shut then all eventually would've ran like clock work once more.
I don't blame Mike for doing what he had to do considering it was Walter that killed Gus but I don't blame Walter for doing what he did because there's no way in heck I'm paying for your guys
Trust is hard to get and considering what they are doing is illegal, you need people you trust. Not to mention dangerous work. Jesse's people quickly did quit when combo got shot. These people were already facing some jail time and if they all quiet, they probably will spend the least time possible behind bars. Once they get out, there's a good chance they will continue work for you because you kept on your word with legacy costs.
The look on Jesse’s face at 5:27.😂. He knew what was about to happen.
The best thing about this scene and what makes me relate to it so much is that it perfectly describes a bootstrap Startup vs a multi national company!
Walter and Jesse were being paid $1 Million a month with Fring for SOLEY doing cooking..
So you think I’ll branch on my own and sell my own product and you handle EVERYTHING and leave with less than 10% of what you previously made and say WTF IS THIS!!!
I think that’s a tough pill that every entrepreneur has to swallow. It’s nice to get handsomely paid to do a singular job. Those days are over when you’re the boss of everything.
SOLELY*
That exposes the problem though. Walter was cooking and the boss, meaning he should be making more money, especially when you consider that Gus, Hector, and Eladio were out of the picture, and the previous arrangement made plenty of money to satiate all 3 of them. And that wasn't just to pay 3 people, that also included everyone under them, which was a lot of people. Mike was simply being greedy. Let's also keep in mind that all the guys that Mike made "whole", eventually turned on Mike anyways, despite all that money. In fact, almost every one of Mike's guys throughout the entire series ended up turning on him eventually. The truth is, 20% of the take to transport was way too high, especially when that comes out to over $250,000.
Especially when this is a reoccurring cost, and it's not like it's a once a year thing, it's a once a week, once a month thing. At that point the drivers are making soo much money that they'd end up indirectly alerting the operation because even Gus had difficulty trying to launder that much money. There does come a problem with paying people too well, especially when they may soon make soo much money that they don't need to bother doing it anymore. If you're driving and you make 2 million dollars in less than 6 months, you'll probably just get out of the game entirely and go retire. Part of the reason you pay people lower is to keep them needing the job. Even just $10,000 for each driver would have been more than enough, and still very generous.
Mike was just taking advantage of Walter because he was still mad at him about Gus, but the messed up part is this is partially what causes the end of Mike, because when Mike's guys started spilling the beans, they had to be dealt with, which Walter had to take care of. And Mike had been skimming soo much off of it to make his guys "whole" that it only angered Walter when it was all basically wasted money. Which ultimately lead to Walter losing his temper and taking out Mike. And Mike should have known better, because he's literally dealing with the guy that took out his former boss, so Mike was poking the bear out of annoyance. Mike wasn't a bad guy, but he did do things he shouldn't have done that ultimately made him a bit sloppy and caused problems that didn't need to exist, and that's all what lead to the end of Mike.
Sales Tax, Property Tax, State Income Tax ( I live in Texas so we don't play that), Federal Income Tax. Sometimes it's hard to tell who the criminals are.
Free range tax cattle
Yeah? who pays for your roads and bridges and military protection sweetie?
@@nevertheless123 did we ask for that? "Protection" money huh? If you're to afraid and weak to take care of yourself, don't hire your dirty work out
@@DonnieDarko727 Boy o boy look at our Wild West gun toting cowboy here! He’ll take care of himself and rides a horse to work so doesn’t need paved roads. He didn’t ask for roads anyways. He’ll shoot his neighbor if he enters his lawn. He’ll also shoot at the Russians when they come to America , (or he might say .. I didn’t ask them to come!!)
When Mike says Jesse fronted 120K, why did he take 40k from Jesses pile, would he not have already paid his share?
Idk
Because it cost 120 and they all pay theyr share
He took 40k from each of them and left it in a separate pile next to the rest of jesse’s money. They all paid 40k each.
He took 40 from Walter's and his own share and gave it to Jesse so they all end up paying 40k
Thats to show how much they all evenly get at the end.
It’s also not to confuse them by wondering why Jessie has an extra $40k in his pile.
“Legacy costs??” Lmao
I always love it, when Mike puts Walt in his place
Walters right. You wouldn't pay the guys in jail
Then wats to stop them from talking to the warden?
@@theparodychannel7842death
or turning state's evidence for a reduced sentence, or even going into witness protection?
The legacy cost should’ve came from mikes end imo. But i can see his points
Walter caused the legacy cost, they should all pay.
@@edgardomartin8299 truuueeee Walt and Jesse must pay the price of taking down Gus. They KNEW they had something good but still ruined it.
@@snowarmth jesse should because he is the one who put them in the situation by being against Gus using children
@@JadeiteMcSwag Jesse was just being moral. How many of us exert our values over people without any regard for the consequences? He didn't do that intending for Gus to be killed or anything, so... I wouldn't even blame him for the consequence when his only intention was to defy Gus by standing by his own principles~
Before anyone pays anything, I would need to know exactly what is going on, who I'm paying, why I'm paying so much, how I know they'll keep their mouth shut, and what my other options are. This whole "What you do" business ain't going to cut it.
For sure when I start a business I’m taking 10 percent out of my employees pay - legacy cost.
"who is the reason you have this job?"
Paying rent for the first time....and your dad is the landlord
Because. It's what... you... do...
Just another consequence Walt had to earn the hard way by killing the man that fed him. Like Mike said on the episode Walt shot him, “we had a good thing with adding. We had a lab and we had a good thing going but you just had to be the one on top”.
blame Jesse
@@JadeiteMcSwagBlame both Walt and Jesse. It was Walt's insistence on keeping him around.
nobody's gonna find you lydia 💀
haha
Why do they share before paying expenses lol?
The cost of being the boss
He just took all the money lol
If they had continued paying those guys instead of offing them, couldn’t they become new members of the organization? It’s an interesting thought. While the prison murders made for good tv, wouldn’t it make more sense to make those guys part of the team?
Those guys are going to be in prison for the forseeable future with no hope of getting out without confessing and if they somehow did get out would probably be on house arrest or something with the feds way up their butts.
Because the cops were already watching them.
@@pb222221 Good point
Maybe could make a deal and play less every time. They're in prison, so there is no other way to make money for them.
By the way, knowing you pay your team, could help if a mule is caught, while killing them could make any mule talk for protección.
They're already suspects. The cops would be watching them if they got out, they're too risky.
Nobody ever realizes that Mike disappeared from his granddaughter the same way Lydia feared she would
Lmao "that's blackmail"
Walt, you bombed a nursing home bro
…feel the need to go to the ATM.
When I see Lydia,I see Todd,why god,why
275 thousand dollars for transportation !!! 😂😂😂
The cost of doing business yo
Ohhhh, it’s what you do
💡 already like a year ago
POV: The government after you get your pay cheque
I can understand Mike's legacy cost reasoning, but did he think springing this on Walt was a smart idea lol?
If Walt was seeking to be in the empire business, then Walt needed to hear this. Having an empire involves costs.
@@zzzzzzzzzzzk I'm not saying he didn't need to hear this. I'm just saying Mike let his understandable contempt for Walt make his business talk sound less tenable. Walt was already disappointed with how much they made in the batch, then Mike's springs his legacy costs on Walt out of the blue too. It just wasn't smart.
@@dksoulstice6040 When should've Mike brought it up?
@@zzzzzzzzzzzk He's been known his guys were in jail. He could've brought it up anytime after that. When Walt and Jesse were cooking the batch. Almost anything would have been better than bringing it up at the last minute.
*you killed the smuggler* thats why you get less $
I never liked Lydia
She was a sociopath and very annoying when asking for tea, everytime.
@@Lone_Coyote ironically I’m drinking tea and beer rn lol
@@alexanderhamilton2600 nice combination lol. It's Miller time!
Haven’t watched in a decade. What did lydia do to make mike angry?
He literally says why. “Two good men are dead because of you.”
She tried to get one of Gus’s former employees to start assassinating people like Mike so she can avoid loose ends
2 bald guys trying to out mog each other and the one guy who hasn't yet had to accept hair loss as a permanent factor of his life is just standing there like "who cares"
Walt is right to complain about $39k per man in 'legacy costs' *per cook*.
But those costs exist as a direct result of Walt..
Walter didn't think to do any of that math about where the money goes before hand? All of this is suddenly a surprise to him? Not so smart now, is he?
Mules get paid few hundred to a few thousand bucks per delivered load. $270 grand rents a lot of mules and a lot of cars from budget and all they see is the car they will drive. The mules don't know anything or anybody involved
Imagine making 137k and feel miserable.
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As much as i hate Walter for being so selfish, I understand why he can't take that small payment on his first cook. He don't have 20 years to build his own distribution, he need to be rushed cuz he only got less than 1 year to cook.
Mike is a better boss lol
Doesn't Walter already have millions of dollars hidden away that he isn't even able to spend at this point? I'll never understand the mindset of getting hung up on necessary expenses when you already have more money than you know what to do with, just pay the cost of doing business and keep it pushing, goddam.
Gdmn, imagine being pissed cus u only got 100k for like a weeks worth of worth...n mike was right the whole time
I prefer honest working days!
It’s actually crazy that people here are still defending Walt
This is giving me a headache. He made these crystals, thus it doesn't seem right that Mr. White gets paid the same as his coworkers. He certainly deserves more, in my opinion.
my take is that the “costs” were too high but some costs would need to be incurred. would have been better to think of it as “mikes costs” and let him worry about it. on the positive side, those are fixed costs, so increase the volume and goes right to the bottom line.
This is the moment when Waltuh became reasonably unhappy with finger giving him less money from the first cook 5:18
I see why Walt killed Mike
His ego.
You say that as if Walt is some kind of _"good guy."_
Walt was a knob in every sense of the word.
Walt was to Mike like Jesse is to Walt, an entitled little punk who doesnt know how the real world works.
I would be very thankfull receiving $137,000. Walter has always been greedy which is why it ended the way that it did.
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Mike was annoying here. Simple solution is to have those hazard pay guys silenced. He wasn’t willing to do that and wanted to continue paying them so it should’ve come out of his pocket.
Sounds good in theory, but even one of his guys rolls on them they're all screwed. Walt's plan in season five looked beautiful cinematically, but offing all of the dude's on Mike's list within 7 minutes looks good on TV, but considering hitting different prisons on different schedules is basically impossible. I can see why the hush money is just the better option.
I'm sure Walter wouldn't have a problem paying those guys as a 1 time thing, but the paying them forever thing is where he had a major issue.
@@joemckim1183It wasn’t forever, they were partially paying off their hazard pay per cook.
@@Mrstatbear But once they're fully paid off they no longer have any motivation to keep silent.
@@jarmonjohnson- Where did the hush money even go to where the feds wouldn’t catch on?
Your men,your expense.
Except the expense wouldn't be needed if Walt hadn't killed Gus.
@@skyhunter2816 Gus threatened to kill Walt’s entire family.
@@reinerbraun3370 Walt had Gale smoked.
@@MrARhodes To save his own life. Gus was planning on killing him and replacing him with Gale.
@@reinerbraun3370because Walt already proofed himself a ticking time bomb liability at that point. Gus is way to cautious. He originally allowed Walt to have Jessie as his partner so he had no intention of killing him and taking his formula. He just wanted to work with a discreet professional like himself.