The SpaceX Military Starship Is Real! How's This Going To End?
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Official SpaceX Starship flight recap released - Did you notice this detail? The Air Force wants to test a military Starship! Is Relativity Space becoming the next SpaceX? Has it only taken them a year to develop an entire engine? And buckle up for a crazy story regarding Osiris-REX!
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Do you think that a military Starship is a good thing to do?
@@GoldVP... Anyone ever want to give NASA employees some love? Whatever happened to the Mars mission? The Musk Bro's moved onto the next crypto Musk scam?
Yes, with other Countries seemingly trying to surpass the US and take over the world, If I were President, I would hire Space X and our military with every means possible to counter and protect the US and its allies.
You know if we screwed up our jobs as bad as the government does we would be fired. Mislabeling wiring could have doomed the entire mission. Step it up NASA!
Good job Felix!🤓🛰🤖
*Wake up from your pathetic Musk cult. The starship failed launch twice*
If SpaceX gets military funding that may speed up the development. They will also get all the launch approvals much faster.
Your taxpayer money at work !! .. blowing up rockets .. electric cars catching on fire or leave you in the cold in the middle of a blizzard .. but somehow still become a billionaire
@@samm928 The star ship blows up not the Falcon 🤡 All the cars don't catch on fire just a few 🤓
@@samm928it was proven that the number of fires per thousand cars are much higher for thermal engines than for EV. Take off your foil hat
@@samm928I don't understand what blowing up rockets entail?
SpaceX may not be progressing as fast as Elon would like, it is clearly progressing far faster than any other launcher in history, except Falcon 9. Additional funding would not produce much faster progress. Based upon construction capacity I believe that SpaceX is aiming for 12 Starship launches in 2024 and 50 in 2025.
Its always surprising to me how open the building site (megabay, highbay, test stands, rocket garden...) are. Others seal the engines, keep rockets dry and safe, more like a cleanroom. And SpaceX - they store the next-to-fly hardware directly in the coastal winds on the shore. And they perform... cool stuff.
It’s called compensation 😂
I've heard people say the reason is that "there's no cleanroom on mars", but idk if that's the actual reason they basically build them outside.
Iirc they’ll build them differently one day. This is the quick and dirty.
Yes, maybe uncontrolled, quick and dirty is why they blow up mid air? 😊
@@Metalle that's not the reasons, but keep telling yourself that I guess
I cannot wait for my grandkids starting to learn this history in school.
Or be on the crews to Mars 😮
Relativity is amazing. Saw their presentation for recruitment a couple times. They have so many innovations going on…
there should be a starship one day named Trooper
oh hell yeah !!
SpaceX is history in the making and I hope people realize every achievement will be remembered for a long time. Congratulations to the entire SpaceX organization.
@@ianPedlar pretty sure plenty of places wrote down the entire team of people who landed on the moon... when someone says things will be remembered they mean it will be marked down as important history.
@@ianPedlar I think he meant that Musk & SpaceX will go down in history ..not really this test flight per say ... yesh ..you seem to nitpick a bit .🙄🙄& yes the world will remember & read about how Musk basically. came out of South Africa . studied in Canada .& made history for Commercial spaceflight .in the United States ? .*& NOw he will pretty much own the Space game within the next decade . See what I mean .😅🤷♀
Kinda like Ezekiels SPMTs or nouveau nephilim from 13-12,000 years ago the last time earths orbits cross through the electro-magnetic gravitational equator separating our stars fermie cells oort cloud magnetosphere.
Everything is history in the making….
What important is if it helps
@@GregoryJByrnelol lol no no😊 lol lol lolp
Shout out to ALL SpaceX employees. The small control room does not surprise me! Elon seems to be minimalist when it makes sense.
Definitely, and in his eyes. Starship probably still isn’t big enough to even hit his minimum😂
It's gonna explode, it doesn't make sense to spend money on people to babysit a flying bomb.
Function over form for sure!
There is an optimal size for any vehicle. I suspect Starship is already quite close.
Musk needs to learn when to keep his personal prejudices and cherished conspiracy theories to himself. The bad PR he's earned over at Xitter, is spreading to Tesla and more worrisome to SpaceX. SpaceX and NASA rely on the public purse. Angering a large block of the voting public is an effective way to kill support for government funded programs. .
Relativity is no doubt progressing fast. Let’s not forget about RKLB, they are less loud about their progress on Neutron but their aim is still to get Neutron on the pad by end of next year
Semi-submersible landing platform might be an option for starship landing pads.
Submerge for landing, float for transport.
For testing versions maybe, certainly until reliability has been demonstrated over hundreds of flights. But long term production uses should involve trying to be caught by the launcher tower to allow for fast reusability comensurate with Elon's hopes.
SpaceX has the best engineers in the business. Great job SpaceX ‼️‼️‼️‼️
Always love the SpaceX updates. Thank you so much! Also, absolute awesome to hear about relativity space doing so well wishing him the best.
Congrats to the Space X team!
One good thing about the military adopting starship is that there would be a multitude of variance starships, even more so than Elon has stated.
Are you suggesting a Starship Trooper transport variant.😊
@@p-stylez571absolutely
The small control room doesn’t surprise me. It mirrors the development of NASA’s centers. We’re used to seeing Houston’s Mission Operation Control Room. However, prior to Gemini IV everything was handled by a much smaller team in a smaller room at Kennedy Space Center. KSC would continue to lead during the launch phase. I suspect right now we’re seeing the KSC equivalent. Eventually, they will probably have a large Mission Control in Hawthorne and a smaller launch center near the pad just as NASA does.
Thanks Felix for bring us the latest updates on all things SpaceX.
I had hoped on more onboard shots like internal fuel tank videos or other ones we were kind of used to
The military already uses trucks, ships, and aircraft for transport. Starship would simply be another transport option. So, yes military Starship is fine.
Couldn't agree more! It would be like a space faring C-5 Galaxy.
well... if it's near term, it's definitely a cargo only... and it won't be for "fregile" items
Still waiting on aerospace combat and troop transport variants.
@@PrograError fragile like a team of seals?
@@noppornwongrassamee8941This would be to resupply already deployed troops. Humans have physiological considerations that a Humvee or field artillery does not - a pressurized atmosphere and G forces from acceleration being the two big ones which would mean a slower rocket with life support systems lowering payload capacity. Humans would still arrive by plane, but they could get rocket delivered supply drops in a matter of hours from request to arrival.
Cicked instanly after reading on board footage, thanks wai team for the coverage as always❤
Damn, same thing for me XD This shit is addictive =)
Whatever they are doing at Relativity with their engines don't stop.Those are some impressive achievments.
My son was top of his class in Aerospace Engineering at the Academy. He wants to go to space.
That's awesome! It is extremely difficult to be an astronaut but if he keeps on believing in himself he will do it one day!
@@coonjamalay Hopefully there will be a greater chance to become an astronaut in the future. Especially since all these private companies are developing their technologies. Future of space looks promising
@@liamailiam exactly my thought. I watched a video about veritasium the other day when he was talking about whether success is hard work or luck. He mentioned that to become an astronaut, luck plays a HUGE role. Well, now since the market is getting privatised, we should get closer to meritocracy
Awesome update WAI team! I especially enjoyed the update on what Relativity is doing! I love SpaceX, but they really need some competition. 2024 is going to be very exciting
Totally agree! Thank you for the nice comment! :)
SpaceX has lots of competition, they are just destroying them. Elon doesn't need pushed, he drags everyone and everything he touches into the future. What he needs is for our government to get off his back.
Always look forward to you're videos Felix! Keep up the great work bro!
Great footage and another great report!
The ground work and PVC pipes going in the ground behind the pad deluge system tanks looks like the beginning of a new bathroom building to me. I'm thinking the employee break room/bathrooms over on the container wall are coming out soon and this is the replacement.
I think it's unlikely that they will use salt water. Salt water introduces a large number of other problems - it's much more corrosive, it doesn't evaporate cleanly and places that have a higher salt content might never dry out completely.
I'd expect them to build a water desalinization system, as I suspect getting water trucked in isn't the most cost effective option, after they found out they can't operate very well without large amounts of water.
Thanks for another great episode Felix, you rock!
Thanks for sharing on CZcams SpaceX! We love this content ❤
So there will finally be some *Starship Troopers* ?
Only if they are from the Novel, not the military hating movie.
If the military gets involved it might mean faster development, more funding, and easier to get launch licenses.
"Might". We can hope though.
It means we are going to see this commercial technology fundamentally change human existence while the UNSF has a hypersonic invisible fleet of better versions of these.
good to have you back
Hey Felix and team, thank you. WAI graphics team are top notch and getting better. The day I visit Starbase will be like a walk in my garden...that's how good the information you produce n present🇿🇦
Compelling graphics also break down the barrier for newcomers, not everyone has been watching play-by-play like most of us rocket nerds. Ha! So you open your audience viewership to new people trying to grasp what's going on.
I think starship would look so badass in air force gray with USAF on its side!
Paint is pointless.
Yeah SpaceX should be more focused on helping humans kill each other
US Space Force - USSF
@@jonniiinferno9098 well but the video didn’t say the testing is for USSF it said USAF.
@@iamaduckquack after fueling yes, but up until that point… idk, I just imagine how slick it would look.
Just saw the notification and parked at the gas station to buy some chips and watch your video ❤
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Love your energy Felix! You rock!
As someone who gets pissed off when half my belt is flipped the wrong way I can only imagine the patience it takes to develop rocketry tech.. kudos to SoaceX and the entire roster of engineers, scientists, workers and everyone else.
Olvídalo ya entendí fue un mal entendido
Disculpe
That cargo Starship is cool. But, shouldn't we wait and see if SpaceX can actually get a Starship up and back down safely first?
That will happen in time like with falcon.
It will definitely fly as it is, they can always cook up something to make it work for a one time use... plus they get to prove the booster if they have to do as contracted.
Love the starship troopers reference!
All of this is just so so amazing and incredible
yes it could be used for both as a major emergency supply vehicle
Man do I wish I had a time machine. Go back and get a good degree in engineering or whatever these spacex employees have as certification to do what they do. Damnet what awesome jobs they have. Education in finance and 15 years working in the banking industry isnt as exciting as expanding humanities reach. Keep up the good work everyone there!
You have obviously never talked with an engineer
Similar thoughts in here, though I'd go for chemistry, from economics. 🤭
I too am jealous, excepting the unending work schedule with no time off. They are the hardest working Americans other than beat cops working overtime.
It's really not too late. I worked at CERN for a while, quite a number of the engineers and even some physicists re-specced in their 30s or occaisionally their 40s. If you've been working in banking you might well be able to afford a second degree, and achieve what you want to ! The world needs less bankers anyway lmao.
Well you can’t even spell correctly, I doubt you can do maths
Great coverage!
Another excellent report.
All my love and many thanks to the spaceX team!
Got a strong feeling they’re shooting for a New Year’s Eve launch! 🎉
No way!! That would be great!!
More fireworks 😂
@@mrjpb23 The mass simulator could be 100t of fireworks 🤣
I hope they don't. Let your workers be with their loved ones during the holidays.
It looks so good
Excellent stuff bro
Surface to surface Cargo Starship is a good thing, whether it's the .gov using it, or UPS, FEDEX, or any of the air cargo firms using it. An Air Force cargo ship would be a great idea, as well.
It will never be cheap enough for large scale use. An economic and ecological nightmare. Driving electric cars on one side, but burning thousands of tons of methane for every flight? Only to have your package at some port in an hour, and then it needs another day to be delivered to your door anyway? Not gonna happen.
Of one thing we can be sure. There will be no Amazon delivery using Starship! :)
Jeff would rather bankrupt Amazon than using anything SpaceX.
@@infinite_monkey590 "It will never be cheap enough for large scale use."
The fastest options never are. Air mail was more expensive than regular mail. The Concorde was more expensive than subsonic airliners. That is a separate question than whether there is a market. And everything STARTS WITH the rich customers. Indoor plumbing, air conditioning, home computers.
@@zoltanposfai3451 "Jeff would rather bankrupt Amazon than using anything SpaceX."
And yet, he may not have a choice. You have heard he was forced to employ Falcon vehicles to meet his deployment deadline.
@@digitalnomad9985 Yeah, but not everything that starts with rich customers survives. Concorde is a good example. It's not a matter of scale. It's a matter of feasibility. And it makes no sense. Many countries won't allow it anyway, due to safety, noise and environmental concerns. And both China and the US probably won't be happy to see ICBMs coming in multiple times a day.
An efficient Starship cargo transporter is necessary for the Moon and Mars missions. Although it is being planned for military use, it's modular design can be modified to any purpose.
Mars needs Carryall transport vehicles to transport cargo from the Starship cargo vessel to the designated base site, speeding up the bases development. The first cargo module unloaded would contain the carryall.
I think Spacex should use Star Ship for every purpose possible
Thanks Felix!
Let's go spaceX🎉
Shout out to team spaceX, you accomplished what NASA gaslighted me about my entire life. Congratulations🎉 On this milestone..
thx dear Felix
The US Space Force will become increasingly more important to US space exploration. Remember that Chinas space agency is not a civil organization but is and always has been military based. As the SLS/Artemis budget will likely be reduced during future administrations, Space X technology and capabilities will be necessary to compete with the Chicoms.
Space Exploration is NOT in the portfolio of the US Space Force. Has nobody on the bleeping Internet ever bothered to look up what this branch of the US Services is even about? FFS.
They're the military's Satellite guys, taking care of espionage and communication assets for the little green men. Nothing more. None of which happens past Earth Orbit.
Unless you find somebody to fight in the outer solar system, you're out of luck with this "vision".
military starship sounds cool, go space force!
Now imagine a road paving starship!
AC-130 Starship hell yeah!
Excellent video!
Well......we all knew in our hearts that SpaceX would some day be partnered with a military industrial complex agency of sorts.
The whole progress happening these days is more intense than at any point in history. Be nice to see other SpaceX' in different countries, just think that they could do if they were able to pull resources, support and people from all over the world (plus different rules regarding launches, might be favourable to launch from one and land elsewhere), could be on Mars in no time.
Good shit, buddy!👍🏾
Hey Felix and Team, thanks for the awesome content! Have you considered filming some 360 videos? Could be petty epic on the Quest 3! :)
SpaceX is just Weyland Yutani in the making lol
Let's seriously hope not! :D
The cargo to anywhere is meaningless unless they plan on building launch and landing facilities around the world. At this point Starship can't land unless it is caught. Even if they were to add back the landing legs they would have no way to refuel it and take back off.
Agreed. However, my gut feeling is these military flights will be one-way single-flight deliveries. 🧐
Good point. Also, they're not going to land anything with Raptor engines someplace where a potential adversary can get their hands on those engines. I think starship has to RTB or be destroyed, so something like an expendable reentry vehicle that lands on chutes and simple thrusters seems in order.
@@DogmaFaucetft
Another quality episode.
Thanks, Felix!
SpaceX could not and would not exist without a great military protecting our ass and creating a safe environment for Elon and all of us ⚔️👍🙏🚀💪🇺🇸 of course we must share any useful information and rocket capabilities with our beloved military 🇺🇸
Let's be real.. the Military's "Deathship" will have a cargo of ballistic missiles. They're not going to be transporting humvees lol! Can you imagine landing a Starship in the middle of nowhere.. nearest Booster and tank farm being thousands of miles away. I guess it's an attractive monument now? Not likely.
On the topic of spaceX for military use. Fun fact.
Jacques Cousteau primary source of funding for his nature movies and research came from oil industry that used his findings to expand their oil fields :P
Please keep saying “Earth is” when reading “Earth’s”! Never change, brother!✊🏾
Starship absolutely should be used as a weapon. It would be such a waste not to. And it can bring a lot of money to the project and allow starship to be financially viable quickly.
Nice to hear your voice again Felix,dare I say it your my favorite goto guy for space stuff 🚀 🤜🏻🤛🏻
The military working with SpaceX to deliver huge amounts of cargo around the globe is important for SpaceX. What they learn from this collaboration will help them in developing their ability to transport huge amounts of cargo to the Moon and to Mars...
Whoever's editing, 2 thumbs up!
Amazing images 😻
Antarctic delivery..woot..amazon needs in..too i feel smiles
Nobody was ever going to stop the militarization of space. It's just a matter of who advances first, and yes, we should advance first.
such awesome work
I'm still ready to commute from LA to New York on the Starship!
The addition of military investment and usage is always in the mix.
It ends with a big bang. That is quite a large slow target when landing.
Space X you guys are the best people for the future of 💫🇺🇸
Concrete has a two hour limit after being placed in a truck to be poured so it makes sense for them to have a facility on site site
"One cargo that being contemplated is a Humvee"
So they went to the launch provider with experience with launching road vehicles through space.
If it's only being used to deliver stuff really fast and far, then I don't really see a problem with a military starship
Love the airstreams for accommodation. I wonder what model they are using?
Happy to see you back Felix! Great update as always wai team! Launch 3 countdown begins! 🫶
Thnak you :)
Fisrt off, it looks like SpaceX is going to have to completely replace the standing tank farm. They have taken significant damage in both flights. I would expect demolition to begin as soon as emough of the horizontal tanks are online.
And secondly, with the military cargo lift program, it seems to me that a descending starship is an amazingly easy target for modern missile systems.
I agree. I can't really see the use case. And humanitarian aid? Where are you gonna land after an earth quake or a flood? In addition to that, that's all one way only. Not a good idea to leave your top technology in enemy territory.
@@infinite_monkey590 Excellent point.
Great job Space X! ❤
Waaaaaay too much ground support equipment at Massey’s for that to be where they put the second tower & OLM (methinks, at least…).
But RGVs latest flyover does show a substantial ground structure work going on…
Congratulate the Osiris Rex team for successfully lucking out after a major screw-up.
Imagine if they had lost it after all the years and everything that went into getting the sample.
cargo starship is a fantastic idea, but the biggest Q in my mind are the requirement for landing sites and recovery
I like you, Felix.
The Face of WAI. ;)
Keep up the great work.
Hi what about it great 👍 video thanks for the updates David 🚀❤️🇬🇧👌👍
What if there is a military crew compartment? Get someone to any place on earth in under an hour. Probably not that useful for the the Pentagon but for thriller fiction writers, it's gold!
Seems that dropping from low orbit with small reentry modules would make more sense. The starship would drop its cargo to one or several locations and the return to base for refueling and loading more cargo.
Some of the test tanks may be getting ready for in orbit refuelling tests.
I think military funding, especially for aid and logistics missions, is a great step towards freight transport use.
Maybe aircraft carrier landings? Or airport landing followed by short hop flights to transport vessels for reuse.
I always wonder whether the Mach-diamonds could be positioned in such a way so as to use constructive interference to their advantage. At the moment it seems all the nozzle bells are simply in-line/flat/level with with each other and by consequence, the Mach-diamonds all converge in different places. The mere fact that a Mach-diamond converges at various distances shows that constructive/destructive interference *IS* taking place and thus *IS* a factor toward efficiency; by how much:who knows?
Mach diamonds are created when the exhaust is lower pressure than the atmosphere it's flowing into. Their presence is an indication that the rocket will have a better specific impulse at high altitude or vacuum, but the process occurs downstream of the thrust component of a gas rocket.
Interactions between these standing waves won't have a significant effect on engine operation or output.
Shuttle was heavily funded for military missions. Why not Starship?