A majority of them, bullies don't care and plenty of them crash and burn Some of the bullies have genuinely changed for the better. That being said,they should still apologize to the people that they bullied. Teenagers still have free will
“That was a long time ago and I am very sorry but we are adults now” Is exactly what a former bully would say. Tough luck, if your victim learned to live with their trauma, so should the bully.
If the bully grows up and looks back and realizes what an awful person they were, then I can understand that. But Lois was not. She was just trying to say enough time has passed.
@@Kaboombootrue but even then bullies shouldn’t expect or demand forgiveness. They’re not entitled to it, it's up to the victim whether they want to forgive them or not.
Lois has been Mayor, been married to a pro Athlete, her dad is a billionaire. And women don’t need status. So yes Joyce accomplishments don’t matter even if Lois had none
Exactly, and I hate hearing that for a defense of one’s actions. “I’m sorry I beat you within an inch of your life, but it was a long time ago.” Would “it was a long time ago” work there? Why should time erase someone’s actions? People can work to redeem themselves of something they did, but time will not wipe the slate clean for you.
Wow, that’s not even sincere or remorseful. If someone ever tried to apologize to me for bullying me in the past, all I could say was I don’t want to see them ever again because what they did destroyed me and my feelings, and I couldn’t ever forget that or forgive them for it. Only 2 of my friends from different 🏫 (private and 🏫) apologized to me online with remorse and regret, and I forgive them for that, but I still don’t know why they did. I think it was because of their problems at home or something else. I want my bullies to suffer from the pain and humiliation they caused me, but seeing them either successfully finish college, have their jobs, have families, or get married makes my 🩸 boil throughout my entire adult life! I was supposed to be the one to get by with success, but I did not get it because of my lack of experience and my parents controlling my own life! It’s like, why am I getting punished for being wrong and my bullies getting by?! It’s not fair! I’ve been suffering from depression and going downhill ever since. I have even been suicidal for 13-14 years!
@@rosajessica7405 it seems to me that you are actually hurting yourself by holding on, i can't say i fully understand but i would say that either you should cut all news off them or spite them for real, let people know what they did, call their bosses, swat their homes ,etc
Yes That's because Lois said, "I'm sorry but..." And "That was a long time ago". Both of those statements that Lois willingly said are dismissive. Plus, whenever you do an "I'm sorry but..", you're just saying "Forget the first part of my sentence, here's what I really mean."
She was only sorry that karma came back and bit her in the ass decades later. It kinda reminds me of this quote from Gone With the Wind: “You’re like the thief who isn’t the least bit sorry that he stole, but he’s terribly, terribly sorry that he’s going to jail.”
Yeah but unlike Joyce he decided not to not wallow in the past. He and Joyce have every right to be devastated but you have to move past it especially when you become an adult. Hanging on to that kind of vendetta does nothing but her you, especially since very few people get a chance at this kind of revenge. Best to eventually let it go for the sake of your own mental health. I know its easier said than done but it has to be done.
There is no case that would justify a vendetta that spans from your teens into your late 30's. To be clear I mean a vendetta over a childish prank. As someone who has been on the receiving end of those humiliating pranks and now in their 40's it would be insane to still be holding a grudge to the point of needing to get that person back. I'm too old for that kind of childish shit.@@DragonGoddess18
I agree, there’s far, and then there’s too far. Sure, what Joyce did it bad, but it’d blow over in a few months. But what Lois did, that’ll last for years due to students likely posting it online causing it to circulate for years, hell, possibly making Joyce borderline suicidal due to humiliation, I know that I’d definitely be considering it, particularly at that stage in my life. One of the rare times I wish Lois’s victim had gone further
@@linda-0587To be fair Lois is in her 40s so social media wouldn’t have been a thing when she was in high school. It doesn’t make what Lois did right but at least it happened long ago enough to where it won’t be reappearing in their timelines.
To be fair, I'm quite on Joyce side. Yes, maybe holding a grudge since high-school seems a little much, but she was humiliated for no reason and for something outside of her control. Lois was humiliated over something she did voluntarily.
Yea its based on several decision, i used to be overweight and felt shit but i kept eating because it was comfort and made me happy. Videos game was fun i never exercised and other reasons i won't disclose, but i was big because of my choices so being fat is 100% within someone control, it took a battle and i know for some the battle is severly harder but its 100% in someones control@@Admiral45-10
Lois humiliated Joyce for fun and she gave her a taste of her pain worldwide. The moral of this story is being a bully comes with consequences, Connie D'Amico's proof of that
I mean, getting absolutely destroyed by a drunk dog, then getting your face ground pounded into goddamn meatloaf against a fire extinguisher by an overprotective father…that’ll do that to you 😳
This scene just shows that some people can hold grudges for a really long time. And Joyce was perfectly right to do so, I mean if something like that happened to me in high school I too would want to get back at those who did it.
Actually liking someone's sad Facebook posts back in the late 2000s/early 2010s was a sign of sympathy or friendly respect. 2008-2016 was a weird time....
I think it’s just a basic “I’m not a monster” trait. The “I might not be fond of children, but I’m still nice to them, and I’d save them from a kidnapper because I’m not a heartless scummy bastard” kind of thing.
Lois said that she's very sorry for what she did... yet in all those years she never took the time to call her and apologize to her face, she probably never even thought about that event until Joyce brought it up. She 100% deserves what Joyce did to her.
0:29 what's hilarious is that Cherry Chevapravatdumrong is the last name of the shows’ producer, and her name appears in the opening credits of this episode
The who people tell you that your high school days are "the best days of your life" were more often than not bullies or the bystanders who stood by and laughed.
Those people are also basically just admitting they peaked in high school which tells you everything you need to know about their experience in high school
For Lois "true love conquers all", for Joyce, "true hatred never dies ". Lois didn't even bother to remember such a massive atrocity she did. I mean just look at the scale of that prank, and she doesn't even remember it? Lois was definitely NOT sorry, by any stretch.
I personally don’t blame Joyce for wanting to get back at Lois for getting bullied by her in high school. Lois deserved a taste of her own medicine here.
“Doesn’t give you any reason to humiliate me like this”? It’s plenty of REASON to humiliate you. They may not have a right to do it, and they may take things too far. But there’s plenty of motivation, here. You embarrassed her in front of the biggest crowd you could muster, so she wanted to do the same.
Funny enough she herself said that in one of the earlier episodes where they are to a Kiss concert and here is a thing I personally gets annoy by.. the we are adults now “ and .. if you are adult Lois you should take responsibility for your actions even if it was in the past.. or something like that…!
The victims never forget their bullies. My Mom’s middle school bully is on Facebook. It takes me a lot to hold back sending a message saying that she deserved going to prison after she bullied special ed kids.
Honestly, I can’t blame Joyce. Lois deserves it. It doesn’t matter if they were teens or not, Lois did something that drives people to suicide, and she knew was wrong.
Oh Lois says she's sorry after being publicly humiliated by someone she bullied and humiliated, but practically forgot about her and never called her nor apologized to her with sincerity. People can change, but it takes a special kind of person to make the effort to apologize to people you wronged in the past. True story, I had a former bully from my past come to my doorstep unexpectedly and he apologized to me and my brother for bullying us in high school--with a regret expression and in his voice. And the sad fact to that is, he's a father and his children are getting bullied which no one should be bullied like that. So he had his karma and made amends. And the funny part is, I don't remember him nor his bullying. I've been bullied by so many jerks in school but the ones I remember were the ones who did me the most dirty, he wasn't one fot he worst ones. But I wasn't innocent either. I gave someone a hard time too, but the next I saw them after high school, I apologized to them because I felt bad for what I did to them, she forgave me and we're cool now. So you see, that's development. Here in the clip, Lois deserved it not only for this but any other time she did others dirty.
"That doesn't give you any reason to humiliate me like this." Okay Lois, then what was Joyce's crime then? I'm pretty sure she didn't do anything to deserve that either.
@@ATP2555ifythat plus most teachers enable bullying completely and i would not doubt if they found it funny. i had adults sit me with bullies on purpose.. also had adults tell me every day i tried to get help "you're crying so that means your lying" and do nothing at all
I feel sorry for Joyce, but like I said Lois deserves it, but on the other hand of old saying; "Two wrongs, don't make a right." But Joyce really give Lois a taste of her own medicine.
ppl forgot that in war there are two sides. right or wrong have little meaning on the battlefield. you either join Peter's family side or Joyce's side. whatever side you join, thats ok. but never forget that its just how things works. nothing personal.
i feel like she thought the hotdog was something else and her pants were pulled down well because she thought the hotdog was something else. the joke being that she's a "loser" that no one would hook up with.
Yeah... That's not something you can just say "I'm very sorry, but" to, Lois. The fact you even think you can is probably all the more enraging to Joyce.
Joyce's is even more justified given Lois didn't change at all when she became an adult. In fact, she became worse given she bullies her own daughter Meg constantly. Though there is also karma given she's stuck married to Peter.
@@lemonlime8949People feel when they see something that they can relate to in a cartoon. They're going to express their feelings just like everyone else. Feelings are also shown when given a critique on a show. It happens. Not the worst thing in the world
@@DragonGoddess18 Yeah, I'm sick of people making me and those like me trying to make me feel retarded by saying 'It's a cartoon' just because we condemn the actions of fictional characters or have emotional reactions to things we see in movies and on tv. We aren't robots after all.....
When I heard Joyce’s story, I was immediately on her side. I’m sure Lois is a changed woman since then but she isn’t the one who had to live with that humiliation. Joyce had to change her name to avoid continuing to be made fun of. But with this I’d say they were even, even with Lois getting her happy ending she payed her dues by being shunned, shamed, and humiliated enough.
Francine absolutely blows Lois out the water. Unlike Lois, Francine has compassion and empathizes with her children. Oh, and doesn’t display favoritism.
I tell ya it served Lois right for getting karma after she humiliated Joyce in the past. Heck, what Lois did to her not only looked cruel but somewhat evil too. I could clearly see it Lois’ face as a teenager. Maybe it would have also been great if Joyce even punched Lois in the face.
Everybody hates high school bullies who think they should be liked and in the clear because it happened "a long time ago" Nah, treat people well and don't expect automatic forgiveness if you don't.
You know as bullied person in my childhood I feel like being bullied also makes you develop "Backbone" and the capacity to fight back and change, and confront the life and that there are scumbags that can make your life worse than a petty bully. While the normally the bullies ended up divorce trapt on toxic relationships or in drogadiction. Also I finded out that one of the guys who I thought was bulling me it wasn't he was just incredibly annoying and alot nervous, and a little crazy, because he never hitted me or tried to humiliete me...😅
Her fake apology just adds insult to injury that she’s still the same bully who finally received their comeuppance. Meg shouldn’t have apologized when she pointed out her flaws of bullying her.
Lois deserved it. She barely changed, and she didn’t even say sorry and probably wouldn’t say sorry even if Joyce said that Lois bullied her until Joyce gave her a taste of her own medicine
Lois does have a point about being adults and solving problems more maturely (though i wouldn't call her the most mature person) can't say felt bad for her after what she did. Couldn't even be bothered to remember her after what she did nor did she seem to regret it :/
Lois clearly doesn't understand that what she did has caused Joyce a lifetime of trauma, it really was an awful thing to do. Not everyone gets over things like that. I know that Joyce shouldn't have done what she did but Lois had it coming, bullying comes with consequences even if it takes years to come up with the best one.
Joyce didn’t needed to do the whole revenge thing. All she had to do was remind Lois she was now a successful news anchor and what is Lois? A bitter housewife with an idiotic husband.
she lost the adolescence game and dragged the grudge to adulthood game. worst kind of loser. she can have her vengeance, just keep in mind: "But beware For when you quench your blood thirst Others will seek their vengeance on you" -Murmaider, Dethklok
@@dirtyharry5320 yeah but i got revenge on most of my bullies at the same age i was bullied. for someone like me who pulled courage enough to face my enemies, many times i was weaker than them, seeing ppl using that lame strategy is ridiculous. i got bullied, bullied ppl, if someone want to take revenge from me now, that childhood/teenage times expired, they better be ready for revenge. not only them, they probably have family/etc. this means war. nothing personal. if they want it, they can start it, no problem. but if they don't want it, then don't start conflicts.
@@gundamdetractor337so you don't really care and you are kind of admiting that you are like Louis in this episode, I may only hope they don't get revenge in a permanent way but disasociation from your actions although not unhealthy is still morally wrong
@@RositaDepre yeah i'm like Lois. i was a kid once, i was a teen once. nowadays i am an adult. living my life and minding my business. like i said, the bullies i could take revenge at the time, i did it. nowadays i hold no grudge to those i couldn't. for the people who only live in the past - i have nothing to do with them. people who think building a chain of revenge is good, they will regret the day they face someone whos willing to buy the war game.
@@gundamdetractor337 a I don't care that much about you, the ones that hit hit me I would bring a knife againts them at the moment, but I think about those who were brought to an inch from death, those whom life were made an actual hell for years and it is then that I find it stupid to think they can just "grow out of it" as if real trauma was not a mental scar that won't completely heal, bullying includes such a big scale of possibilities that I know it is hard to understand it may include both a simple push and beating someone with a baseball bat, but outright refusing that and lacking empaty for the victims really shows a lot about you. Anyways, I don't care about youre life, I doubt you care about mine, I don't know you, I fortunately didn't allow anyone to go so far againts me back in school time, but I always will choose to empathise with the victim more than the one saying "it was a long time ago" now next thing I'll hear is that attempted homicide shouldn't be punished even when made by teenagers (of wich there is too many examples that justice doesn't really do anything) Anyways, is more a rant for others that read this instead of you.
Having been bullied myself, I remember all the bullies who have made feel worthless and while the pain has subsided, I have never forgotten them. If I met any of them today, I'd be very respectful and polite.
Just because something painful and traumatic happened years ago doesn’t mean you’re going to forget about it. Lois can cry all she wants. She deserved that and didn’t sound that sorry either.
Bullies not only forget everything they did to you but completely downplay it when you force them to acknowledge it. I remember my bullies even 10+ years later. Must be nice to be such a self obsessed pos, you can let go of stuff like that.
This was also kinda on Lois for telling her in the first place. Remember, her whole interaction with Joyce from their encounter at the store, the news station, and restaurant happened all in one day. Why when you have only known someone for a single day would you feel comfortable enough to tell them something so personal, sensitive, and private? Yet not tell your own husband who you’ve been married to for how many years about it? Not to mention the other factors other comments have pointed out. Yeah Lois deserves no sympathy in this episode, and did not deserve the resolution of this episode.
What Lois did was wrong, but Joyce really shouldn’t have blindly trusted a bunch of popular kids. The fact they offered to let her join should have been suspect enough, but letting them blindfold you and do whatever they asked was just plain stupid.
Dude, Joyce was a kid who just wanted love, acceptance, and friends. She desperate for someone to give a shit about her. When I was a teenager, I was just like Joyce.
A bully may forget their victims, but the victims never forget their bullies. 🎉
Clearly Lois forgotten the fact that she bulled Joyce a lot as a teen.
A majority of them, bullies don't care and plenty of them crash and burn
Some of the bullies have genuinely changed for the better. That being said,they should still apologize to the people that they bullied. Teenagers still have free will
The hammer forgets, the nail? The nail remembers
For the victim it was a traumatizing day, for the bully it was just a Tuesday.
“That was a long time ago and I am very sorry but we are adults now”
Is exactly what a former bully would say.
Tough luck, if your victim learned to live with their trauma, so should the bully.
The classic "i was just a kid! We're adults now!" excuse of the former bullies when karma hit them back.
And bullies don't deserve forgiveness from their victims.
Yes
If the bully grows up and looks back and realizes what an awful person they were, then I can understand that. But Lois was not. She was just trying to say enough time has passed.
@@Kaboombootrue but even then bullies shouldn’t expect or demand forgiveness. They’re not entitled to it, it's up to the victim whether they want to forgive them or not.
@@raniaminhas3406 Yeah but I don't think Joyce was interested in that and neither was Lois. Joyce just wanted revenge, not to forgive her.
Joyce was already more successful than Lois could ever
Thats the best form of revenge
The most accomplishing thing for Lois is that she was mayor. And even then it didn’t last long because she was embezzling the tax money.
@@Twinmill69227 Omg! I remember that episode! Public disgrace 😹
Lois has been Mayor, been married to a pro Athlete, her dad is a billionaire. And women don’t need status. So yes Joyce accomplishments don’t matter even if Lois had none
Lois' family is filthy rich she doesn't even need to work, she only chose to live humbly to be with Peter
That's not enough for revenge. After how she proved everyone, about Lois acting career, now this is enough
"look Joyce that was a long time ago"
why is that even an argument, the pain may fade but the guilt does not
Exactly, and I hate hearing that for a defense of one’s actions.
“I’m sorry I beat you within an inch of your life, but it was a long time ago.”
Would “it was a long time ago” work there? Why should time erase someone’s actions? People can work to redeem themselves of something they did, but time will not wipe the slate clean for you.
@@HelloThere734Just out of curiosity, how would she atone for what she did if she was genuinely sorry?
Wow, that’s not even sincere or remorseful. If someone ever tried to apologize to me for bullying me in the past, all I could say was I don’t want to see them ever again because what they did destroyed me and my feelings, and I couldn’t ever forget that or forgive them for it. Only 2 of my friends from different 🏫 (private and 🏫) apologized to me online with remorse and regret, and I forgive them for that, but I still don’t know why they did. I think it was because of their problems at home or something else. I want my bullies to suffer from the pain and humiliation they caused me, but seeing them either successfully finish college, have their jobs, have families, or get married makes my 🩸 boil throughout my entire adult life! I was supposed to be the one to get by with success, but I did not get it because of my lack of experience and my parents controlling my own life! It’s like, why am I getting punished for being wrong and my bullies getting by?! It’s not fair! I’ve been suffering from depression and going downhill ever since. I have even been suicidal for 13-14 years!
@@vetarlittorf1807 In all honesty, I don’t know.
@@rosajessica7405 it seems to me that you are actually hurting yourself by holding on, i can't say i fully understand but i would say that either you should cut all news off them or spite them for real, let people know what they did, call their bosses, swat their homes ,etc
Did anybody else sense no sincerity in Lois’s apology
Yes
That's because Lois said, "I'm sorry but..." And "That was a long time ago".
Both of those statements that Lois willingly said are dismissive. Plus, whenever you do an "I'm sorry but..", you're just saying "Forget the first part of my sentence, here's what I really mean."
Yes
She was only sorry that karma came back and bit her in the ass decades later. It kinda reminds me of this quote from Gone With the Wind: “You’re like the thief who isn’t the least bit sorry that he stole, but he’s terribly, terribly sorry that he’s going to jail.”
she’s only saying she’s sorry because she’s “acting her adult age” so yeah i don’t sense any either
She sorry she has to pay for her actions.
Joyce basically has the same backstory as Dwayne Johnson’s character in Central Intelligence.
Actually the difference is His character was he was taking an shower and the bullies grabbed him
Yeah but unlike Joyce he decided not to not wallow in the past. He and Joyce have every right to be devastated but you have to move past it especially when you become an adult. Hanging on to that kind of vendetta does nothing but her you, especially since very few people get a chance at this kind of revenge. Best to eventually let it go for the sake of your own mental health. I know its easier said than done but it has to be done.
@@supersizesenpai Case by case basis
There is no case that would justify a vendetta that spans from your teens into your late 30's. To be clear I mean a vendetta over a childish prank. As someone who has been on the receiving end of those humiliating pranks and now in their 40's it would be insane to still be holding a grudge to the point of needing to get that person back. I'm too old for that kind of childish shit.@@DragonGoddess18
@@supersizesenpai nah.
Lois doesn’t deserve an ounce of sympathy at all, what she did was humiliate someone and cause trauma to them. She deserved her comeuppance by Joyce.
I agree, there’s far, and then there’s too far. Sure, what Joyce did it bad, but it’d blow over in a few months. But what Lois did, that’ll last for years due to students likely posting it online causing it to circulate for years, hell, possibly making Joyce borderline suicidal due to humiliation, I know that I’d definitely be considering it, particularly at that stage in my life. One of the rare times I wish Lois’s victim had gone further
@@linda-0587To be fair Lois is in her 40s so social media wouldn’t have been a thing when she was in high school. It doesn’t make what Lois did right but at least it happened long ago enough to where it won’t be reappearing in their timelines.
but Joyce is already 10x more successful than Lois... i think that in itself is already a revenge
@@linda-0587Lois was in high school in the 80's, there was no social media back then.
Yeah. Lois did have that coming.
To be fair, I'm quite on Joyce side. Yes, maybe holding a grudge since high-school seems a little much, but she was humiliated for no reason and for something outside of her control. Lois was humiliated over something she did voluntarily.
Oh, I still have plenty of grudges. 17 is an adult, and I consider them peers to someone in their 20s.
It's not a grudge. It's trauma.
I mean being fat is not out of somenes control thats a choice, however gives lois no right to bully someone
@StackSC13 there are diffrent reasons for it, but even though it is possible on long-term, it is not dependent on just one decision.
Yea its based on several decision, i used to be overweight and felt shit but i kept eating because it was comfort and made me happy. Videos game was fun i never exercised and other reasons i won't disclose, but i was big because of my choices so being fat is 100% within someone control, it took a battle and i know for some the battle is severly harder but its 100% in someones control@@Admiral45-10
Lois humiliated Joyce for fun and she gave her a taste of her pain worldwide. The moral of this story is being a bully comes with consequences, Connie D'Amico's proof of that
In later series, she drops out of school and is now working in a shameless workplace.
@@leejames8024 Being a housewive married to Peter
I mean, getting absolutely destroyed by a drunk dog, then getting your face ground pounded into goddamn meatloaf against a fire extinguisher by an overprotective father…that’ll do that to you 😳
@@linda-0587 Lois had worse things happen to her than that
Being a bully doesn't come with consequences. That's some Disney channel movie's shit. Most of the bullies live a pretty nice and successful life.
This scene just shows that some people can hold grudges for a really long time.
And Joyce was perfectly right to do so, I mean if something like that happened to me in high school I too would want to get back at those who did it.
Yeah, Lois had this coming. She was awful as a teenager and she's still awful now
Yup. Karma’s a bitch.
And so is Lois.
I'm still pissed off at my mother for throwing away my good pair of flip flops. I even sometimes make mention to her in spite.
Not making fun of that, but what was her reasoning for throwing away flip flops?
Joyce liking Lois’s sad post? Beyond redemption.
That's why the other reactions were invented.
@@mattsodano6264she would have hahad it
Actually liking someone's sad Facebook posts back in the late 2000s/early 2010s was a sign of sympathy or friendly respect.
2008-2016 was a weird time....
At that time you could only like or share on Facebook.
I think it’s just a basic “I’m not a monster” trait. The “I might not be fond of children, but I’m still nice to them, and I’d save them from a kidnapper because I’m not a heartless scummy bastard” kind of thing.
She even had the audacity to say "i thought we were friends"
Lois said that she's very sorry for what she did... yet in all those years she never took the time to call her and apologize to her face, she probably never even thought about that event until Joyce brought it up.
She 100% deserves what Joyce did to her.
But she doesn't have to. My bullies don't need to call me and apologize
I think there's a chance Lois didn't even remember doing it in the first place.
@@the4universes207 Likewise, Joyce doesn't have to be nice to Lois either.
@@walqqr1 mmmm. Move on
@@walqqr1 neither she had to be rude.
Revenge really is a dish best served cold.
And screaming.😈
2 bowls of revenge , please
I sense a reference to Mr. Freeze
Most people forget about it in the morning after they leave it to chill overnight. If they even bother to prepare it.
She thought you were her friend too, Lois until you humiliated her in front of the entire school.
0:29 what's hilarious is that Cherry Chevapravatdumrong is the last name of the shows’ producer, and her name appears in the opening credits of this episode
That's the joke
Never could pronounce that name to save my life.
@@MSGSlayer1SHE-VAH-PRAH-VAH-DOOM-RONG.
Congratulations on getting the joke.
MHA fans try not to be stupid challenge (impossible edition)
In Junior High, Lois was the one being bullied now in high school she turned into the bully
No wonder we see episodes of her bullying Meg which I know Lois isnt the only one bullying her
Remember that turned out to be a delusion, and homegirl was trying to save Lois from drowning.
What episode?
@@Cacowninja ”From Russia with Love”
Joyce suffered humiliation and most likely several sleepless nights, so the “it was a long time ago” excuse doesn’t work
The who people tell you that your high school days are "the best days of your life" were more often than not bullies or the bystanders who stood by and laughed.
absolutely true.
Those people are also basically just admitting they peaked in high school which tells you everything you need to know about their experience in high school
A wise teacher once told us that if the high school years are the best years of your life, then your life sucks
That’s literally not true lmao
For Lois "true love conquers all", for Joyce, "true hatred never dies ". Lois didn't even bother to remember such a massive atrocity she did. I mean just look at the scale of that prank, and she doesn't even remember it? Lois was definitely NOT sorry, by any stretch.
For Joyce, it was a very traumatizing experience.
But for Lois, it was Tuesday
Love may be the strongest emotion,but Hatred is the deepest and most effective one
I personally don’t blame Joyce for wanting to get back at Lois for getting bullied by her in high school. Lois deserved a taste of her own medicine here.
“Doesn’t give you any reason to humiliate me like this”? It’s plenty of REASON to humiliate you. They may not have a right to do it, and they may take things too far. But there’s plenty of motivation, here.
You embarrassed her in front of the biggest crowd you could muster, so she wanted to do the same.
well lois she has the right what you did was fuck up.
lesson be nice to anyone you never know who they grow up to be
Great lesson For anybody
Funny enough she herself said that in one of the earlier episodes where they are to a Kiss concert and here is a thing I personally gets annoy by.. the we are adults now “ and .. if you are adult Lois you should take responsibility for your actions even if it was in the past.. or something like that…!
0:30 now we know how to pronounce Cherry’s last name
And the fact they said "they would never let that name on air" really good joke
It is funny how the antagonist of this episode has more good reasoning for their actions than Lois lol.
True.
Her vengeance is justified
Lois is the worst
@@N1k4_Gr1v Yeah, Lois went from being a victim of bullying earlier in her life to latter becoming a bully herself.
The victims never forget their bullies. My Mom’s middle school bully is on Facebook. It takes me a lot to hold back sending a message saying that she deserved going to prison after she bullied special ed kids.
If I were you, I wouldn't hesitate to write that. Bad people deserve to know how much we despise them.
@@viorelstoica6766 navada should add a special place in hell in the message.
The fact that she was bullying special ed kids feels like it foreshadowed her future a little bit 💀
Honestly, I can’t blame Joyce. Lois deserves it. It doesn’t matter if they were teens or not, Lois did something that drives people to suicide, and she knew was wrong.
In the words of Dabi: the past never dies, you will reap everything you've sown.
Yup
Well that's karma Lois.
Oh Lois says she's sorry after being publicly humiliated by someone she bullied and humiliated, but practically forgot about her and never called her nor apologized to her with sincerity. People can change, but it takes a special kind of person to make the effort to apologize to people you wronged in the past.
True story, I had a former bully from my past come to my doorstep unexpectedly and he apologized to me and my brother for bullying us in high school--with a regret expression and in his voice. And the sad fact to that is, he's a father and his children are getting bullied which no one should be bullied like that. So he had his karma and made amends. And the funny part is, I don't remember him nor his bullying. I've been bullied by so many jerks in school but the ones I remember were the ones who did me the most dirty, he wasn't one fot he worst ones.
But I wasn't innocent either. I gave someone a hard time too, but the next I saw them after high school, I apologized to them because I felt bad for what I did to them, she forgave me and we're cool now.
So you see, that's development. Here in the clip, Lois deserved it not only for this but any other time she did others dirty.
"That doesn't give you any reason to humiliate me like this."
Okay Lois, then what was Joyce's crime then? I'm pretty sure she didn't do anything to deserve that either.
Yup
Probably doing this as an adult instead of as an High school kid.
I feel very sorry for Joyce about what happened to her and what she went through, no one deserves to suffer humiliation like that.
Lois and Peter deserve each other
Them as a couple is toxic as Hell, and are co-dependent on each other’s toxicity.
The worst part is the fact that Lois probably didn’t even get in trouble for what she did considering how rich her family is
2024
The fact that no one defends Lois to this day gives me hope in life!
i am defending lois( trolled librol)
This is why you never tell a journalist anything in confidence
Unless you have history with them
In worst
Ain't no WAY Lois is going to act like she's a different person now 💀
She haven't really changed to a better much, I don't really watch family guy anymore, but do remember some episodes
Typical of Lois to not give a sincere apology
How did she get the teachers too laugh too !? And also one thing: Lois is the most horrible person that a TV series can have
Her dad probably had something to do with that.
@@ATP2555ifythat plus most teachers enable bullying completely and i would not doubt if they found it funny. i had adults sit me with bullies on purpose.. also had adults tell me every day i tried to get help "you're crying so that means your lying" and do nothing at all
Herbert, khm-khm
I feel sorry for Joyce, but like I said Lois deserves it, but on the other hand of old saying; "Two wrongs, don't make a right." But Joyce really give Lois a taste of her own medicine.
Lois deserves it
Two wrongs don't make a right but makes it fair
ppl forgot that in war there are two sides. right or wrong have little meaning on the battlefield. you either join Peter's family side or Joyce's side. whatever side you join, thats ok. but never forget that its just how things works. nothing personal.
I mean, negative * negative = positive, so now acording to maths theyre even😂
@@luthagreenshields2143damnn never thought of it that way
You know considering where her life is now and PETER.
She already got what she deserved long before this.
So you’re saying the revenge was moot?
@@redrasegarden Mixed feelings
@@ReySchultz121 gotchya
We'll she still comes from a wealthy family
@@vincentbarney3091But we all know when her father dies she’s not getting a cent
Lois is a typical rich high school girl.
It’s funny cause it was actually true
That was cruel Lois!! No wonder Joyce did what she did. That's karma right there. Don't be a bully.
I love when Lois try’s to act like she always takes the moral high ground when it only makes her look like a hypocrite and narcissist
Lois deserved every bit of that. And a whole lot more.
Lois' past came back to haunt her
This is the second time that a Channel 6 female reporter has tried to screw Lois over in the absolute worst way.
She had it coming, but still.
Too bad that this is the only episode where Joyce has any personality
Lois deserved every bit of karma in this episode. *Why* did they make her win in the end?
The idea that Joyce didn't object to her pants pulled down and a hot dog stuck in her mouth until the blindfold was removed is a bit concerning. 😂
i feel like she thought the hotdog was something else and her pants were pulled down well because she thought the hotdog was something else. the joke being that she's a "loser" that no one would hook up with.
Always take revenge to your bullies
I am certain that you didn't.
@@anonymous82783 i did
@@ryukomatoi592 Good.
In a later episode From Russia with Love, Lois thought Stephane bullied her in middle school then she did this in high school. Lois is a monster. LOL
I like how everyone in the family guy universe is just naturally sadistic to one another
Notice how no one laughed until after the blindfold was removed.
Yeah... That's not something you can just say "I'm very sorry, but" to, Lois. The fact you even think you can is probably all the more enraging to Joyce.
This is why I like meg the most
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Joyce didn't need to take her revenge. Louis is married to Peter freakin Griffin
Joyce's is even more justified given Lois didn't change at all when she became an adult. In fact, she became worse given she bullies her own daughter Meg constantly. Though there is also karma given she's stuck married to Peter.
the double space is an incredible touch
I'm with Joyce on this one.
This shows that Lois is a hypocrite, she didn't forgive her Bully Stephane even as an adult. But she wants to be forgiven by Joyce.
Small correction: it’s Lois, not Louis. This was revealed in an episode of Family Guy when her name mistakenly autocorrected to “Louis”.
Reaching adulthood has nothing to do with this. That's the kind of bullying that creates a real-life supervillain out for some priceless revenge
DESERVED! past maybe past but you don't just forgive and forget
Joyce was completely justified in doing this to Lois! What she did was an absolutely awful thing to do to anyone!
It’s a cartoon
@@lemonlime8949People feel when they see something that they can relate to in a cartoon. They're going to express their feelings just like everyone else.
Feelings are also shown when given a critique on a show. It happens. Not the worst thing in the world
@@lemonlime8949 Thanks Captain Obvious.
@@DragonGoddess18 Yeah, I'm sick of people making me and those like me trying to make me feel retarded by saying 'It's a cartoon' just because we condemn the actions of fictional characters or have emotional reactions to things we see in movies and on tv. We aren't robots after all.....
@@lemonlime8949 I'll bet you cruelly laughed at Joyce's humiliation alongside everyone else....
When I heard Joyce’s story, I was immediately on her side. I’m sure Lois is a changed woman since then but she isn’t the one who had to live with that humiliation. Joyce had to change her name to avoid continuing to be made fun of. But with this I’d say they were even, even with Lois getting her happy ending she payed her dues by being shunned, shamed, and humiliated enough.
Joyce changed her last name because the news station wouldn't put it on TV
i shouldn't come to school tomorrow, right?
Bullies don’t change and don’t deserve a second chance. Nope!
Very well said.
One of the many reasons why I hate Lois Griffin...
Louis got bullied a middle school became a bully in high school then got out it by her victim in high school irony is one hell of a thing
Lois is not a good mother nor a character . Not even attractive as a cartoon mom .
Francine is way better than Lois .
Francine absolutely blows Lois out the water. Unlike Lois, Francine has compassion and empathizes with her children. Oh, and doesn’t display favoritism.
@@discretegeek57Francine is a better mother than Lois, but not exactly the best mother in general.
I tell ya it served Lois right for getting karma after she humiliated Joyce in the past. Heck, what Lois did to her not only looked cruel but somewhat evil too. I could clearly see it Lois’ face as a teenager. Maybe it would have also been great if Joyce even punched Lois in the face.
Everybody hates high school bullies who think they should be liked and in the clear because it happened "a long time ago" Nah, treat people well and don't expect automatic forgiveness if you don't.
This was recommended to me on my CZcams feed even though I barely even watch family guy related videos
You know as bullied person in my childhood I feel like being bullied also makes you develop "Backbone" and the capacity to fight back and change, and confront the life and that there are scumbags that can make your life worse than a petty bully. While the normally the bullies ended up divorce trapt on toxic relationships or in drogadiction. Also I finded out that one of the guys who I thought was bulling me it wasn't he was just incredibly annoying and alot nervous, and a little crazy, because he never hitted me or tried to humiliete me...😅
Bullies when they end up being on the receiving end for once 🥺
and then the victim becomes the bully themselves
it's an endless vicious cycle of revenge
Her fake apology just adds insult to injury that she’s still the same bully who finally received their comeuppance. Meg shouldn’t have apologized when she pointed out her flaws of bullying her.
Action speaks louder than words, especially when it comes to bullying in high school. People will come back to haunt you years later
Lois deserved it. She barely changed, and she didn’t even say sorry and probably wouldn’t say sorry even if Joyce said that Lois bullied her until Joyce gave her a taste of her own medicine
Lois does have a point about being adults and solving problems more maturely (though i wouldn't call her the most mature person) can't say felt bad for her after what she did. Couldn't even be bothered to remember her after what she did nor did she seem to regret it :/
Lois clearly doesn't understand that what she did has caused Joyce a lifetime of trauma, it really was an awful thing to do. Not everyone gets over things like that. I know that Joyce shouldn't have done what she did but Lois had it coming, bullying comes with consequences even if it takes years to come up with the best one.
Oooo, yea, sorry Lois. You had that coming.
The axe forgets, the tree remembers...
Lois deserved it. She was never "friends" with Joyce; she was trying to weasel her way out of it.
Congrats Joyce, you followed Louis's example perfectly. Why you're just like her when she was in high school.
Joyce didn’t needed to do the whole revenge thing. All she had to do was remind Lois she was now a successful news anchor and what is Lois? A bitter housewife with an idiotic husband.
Agreed. While Lois definitely needed her comeuppance, holding a grudge since high school and exposing her porn star life was a bit extreme for Joyce
Doenst even seem like lois was sorry was just like “that was a long time ago”
she lost the adolescence game and dragged the grudge to adulthood game. worst kind of loser. she can have her vengeance, just keep in mind:
"But beware
For when you quench your blood thirst
Others will seek their vengeance on you"
-Murmaider, Dethklok
You have never been a victim of bullying. Eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
@@dirtyharry5320 yeah but i got revenge on most of my bullies at the same age i was bullied. for someone like me who pulled courage enough to face my enemies, many times i was weaker than them, seeing ppl using that lame strategy is ridiculous.
i got bullied, bullied ppl, if someone want to take revenge from me now, that childhood/teenage times expired, they better be ready for revenge. not only them, they probably have family/etc. this means war. nothing personal.
if they want it, they can start it, no problem. but if they don't want it, then don't start conflicts.
@@gundamdetractor337so you don't really care and you are kind of admiting that you are like Louis in this episode, I may only hope they don't get revenge in a permanent way but disasociation from your actions although not unhealthy is still morally wrong
@@RositaDepre yeah i'm like Lois. i was a kid once, i was a teen once. nowadays i am an adult. living my life and minding my business. like i said, the bullies i could take revenge at the time, i did it. nowadays i hold no grudge to those i couldn't.
for the people who only live in the past - i have nothing to do with them. people who think building a chain of revenge is good, they will regret the day they face someone whos willing to buy the war game.
@@gundamdetractor337 a I don't care that much about you, the ones that hit hit me I would bring a knife againts them at the moment, but I think about those who were brought to an inch from death, those whom life were made an actual hell for years and it is then that I find it stupid to think they can just "grow out of it" as if real trauma was not a mental scar that won't completely heal, bullying includes such a big scale of possibilities that I know it is hard to understand it may include both a simple push and beating someone with a baseball bat, but outright refusing that and lacking empaty for the victims really shows a lot about you.
Anyways, I don't care about youre life, I doubt you care about mine, I don't know you, I fortunately didn't allow anyone to go so far againts me back in school time, but I always will choose to empathise with the victim more than the one saying "it was a long time ago" now next thing I'll hear is that attempted homicide shouldn't be punished even when made by teenagers (of wich there is too many examples that justice doesn't really do anything)
Anyways, is more a rant for others that read this instead of you.
0:29 Fun Fact: Cherry Chevapravatdumrong is a writer and producer for Family Guy.
So they literally put that name on TV.
Having been bullied myself, I remember all the bullies who have made feel worthless and while the pain has subsided, I have never forgotten them. If I met any of them today, I'd be very respectful and polite.
What why would u do that. Yk what I did. I'm going to delete this comment later.
Just because something painful and traumatic happened years ago doesn’t mean you’re going to forget about it. Lois can cry all she wants. She deserved that and didn’t sound that sorry either.
Bullies not only forget everything they did to you but completely downplay it when you force them to acknowledge it. I remember my bullies even 10+ years later. Must be nice to be such a self obsessed pos, you can let go of stuff like that.
“People never remember who you were, they remember how you treated them”-My eighth grade chem teacher.
Yea I can’t remember my old school friends names anymore
0:30 I like how they referenced Cherry Chevapravatdumrong, one of the show’s executive producers. I never caught that before.
You didn't find this video, it finds you.
This was also kinda on Lois for telling her in the first place. Remember, her whole interaction with Joyce from their encounter at the store, the news station, and restaurant happened all in one day. Why when you have only known someone for a single day would you feel comfortable enough to tell them something so personal, sensitive, and private? Yet not tell your own husband who you’ve been married to for how many years about it? Not to mention the other factors other comments have pointed out. Yeah Lois deserves no sympathy in this episode, and did not deserve the resolution of this episode.
When someone says "but..." after saying "sorry" you know they have zero sincerity in their apology
Considering what Lois did throughout the show, I’m not sure whether or not I should feel sorry for her.
BTW, Joyce Kinney became a successful journalist and she conduces a news program, which is much more than Lois will even hope to be
And I love how she's sorry once she got what was coming to her after.
What Lois did was wrong, but Joyce really shouldn’t have blindly trusted a bunch of popular kids. The fact they offered to let her join should have been suspect enough, but letting them blindfold you and do whatever they asked was just plain stupid.
Dude, Joyce was a kid who just wanted love, acceptance, and friends. She desperate for someone to give a shit about her. When I was a teenager, I was just like Joyce.
When you're young, you aren't smart enough to realize those things. Once you grow up or go through such pain, you learn to hate and distrust people.