Cleveland's Native American community reacts to Indians changing their name
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2021
- The Cleveland Indians will soon be known as the Cleveland Guardians, and the region's Native American community is welcoming the change.
The team officially announced the name change Friday, which comes following years of protests from local Native American groups.
"Our community has worked tirelessly to be recognized as diverse and vibrant, instead of being portrayed in inaccurate and harmful ways," according to a statement from the Cleveland Indigenous Coalition. "This name change will help create a place where Native American children and their families are valued and fully seen."
The group said they are pleased with the team for taking a comprehensive approach "to listen and learn and show it is possible to take steps toward change."
Brandon Simmons reports: www.wkyc.com/article/sports/m...
As a Native American myself I appreciated the name Indians
Protest get the Cleveland Indians name back
Probably a lot of Native Americans are like you. I think that it's pathetic that Native Americans are offended by sports teams named after them. These names are meant to HONOR them not to mock them.
And it's pathetic that white owners of these teams feel pressure to change the names.
Yea we need to stop honoring the native people let's erase them from the history Celtics and Vikings isn't racist so why is indians because we are doing what us in the lodges want to do by telling the feeble minded it's racist inturn they erase them from history no more honoring any teams with the name of natives they aren't important enough for people to name a team because they were so revered screw em takin all of them out hopefully we erase all native team names so no one will remember they exist cuz annihilation is better than racism
Same! In fact, I’m even more offended by the fact that changed the name!
@@yaantsudnbesdai972 I am part Cherokee Indian. about 12 percent. my grandfather was Half Cherokee Indian, his mother was full blooded Cherokee Indian from Texas. I remember her when I was little. She was very nice. so I am familiar with the Cherokee Indians. and no, Cherokee INDIANS never lived in tipis. in case anyone wondered. however, It does not make me an expert. I just happen to have Indian in my family of which I am a small part. I NEVER EVER was offended by ANY of the sports teams using the INDIAN name. its all just NONSENSE and giving into the LEFT.. THE LIBERALS, THE DEMOCRATS! They are trying to DESTROY America in every way. tear down statues etc. bad mouth people about slave owners, all this garbage. not all slaves were abused. many stayed with the owners after they were free to go. their life was not always bad. but anyway, my point is.. I asked other Indians I know , NOBODY knows what they are talking about! WHAT INDIANS? complain about the name? just nonsense. NOTHING wrong with it. THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS either. so stupid
If you’re offended by a sports teams name, you need to take a long look in the mirror and rethink your entire existence
Yeah we named our intramural team the Downtown 9/11’s and there was so much whining. I feel like if firefighters and police officer get their feelings hurt they have nothing better to do.
Go Forward It’s all just their agenda. They want to erase history
Right. There are so much more bigger and more important things than a team name and logo within the Native American community
If there are better things to worry about, should it really matter whether it stays, leaves or never shows up?
Even though I think changing the name for these reasons is kinda overkill, what really ruins it is that they give them such terrible replacements. If the redskins were renamed the redwolfs like everyone first thought it would’ve been awesome. But commanders just sucks. Same with guardians.
Once they get rid of all the Indian mascots they will complain there is not enough Indian mascots.
Sure thing Doug. Not enough Mascots has always been a complaint after genocide. Gtfo
@@goforward8697 Yeah you're right...the image of an Indian mascot always triggered thoughts of genocide in me and my family. It gave me nightmares and I just can't get on with my life. Lol...gtfo!
@@goforward8697 your an ignorant. Natives love representation nothing offensive unless it shows them getting their land stolen or them being made fun of
@@yeldog11 Go Forward? Must be his Indian name. Mr. Go Forward--You sir are a racist.
So true
As a guardian, this offends me. I’m going to protest
@Iceman 19 hahaha hell yeah thats right🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂
We could also steal some work boots, oh wait...
I am offended by the New York Yankees because they are ridiculing Yankees which means Dutch. I am 1/526 Dutch so I'm livid with wokeness
They should be named the Cleveland Snowflakes ❄. It would be true in more ways than one.
The only snowflake is you trumptard, zip it with your hypocrisy
You call us snowflakes while you guys can’t get over a new name. Your hypocrisy is unreal
A piece of hair You couldn’t get over the original name. We wouldn’t be complaining about the new name if you didn’t complain about the old name
you guys are the ones crying over a name change lmao. what the fuck.
@@apieceofhair8449 Oh yea, it’s perfectly fine that we can’t complain about a name change, while you white liberals cry about the original name. Do you want to know why it was original called the Cleveland Indians, because it was named after Louis Sockalexis, the first Native American baseball player in the league, and he was in inspiration to a lot of people and that’s why they changed the Cleveland spiders to the Cleavland Indians in his honor. Maybe you should do your history, oh wait I forgot you white liberals liked to cancel history.
So Seminoles is Racist? Warriors sounds like a reference to Native Americans- is that okay? Celtics and Fighting Irish references a culture and a people. Why is it an insult to have a club that honors a Native Indian that played ball for Cleveland?
Also how many citys counties rivers locations in notth east ohio are named after indian tribes..? We better change all of those too
Honor and exploitation are not the same.
Kryssana MacPherson Ummmm.....no. That's not appropriation of culture like "playing Indian" or Chief Wahoo is.
So no problem with "Chief Wahoo"? Would you be cool if Notre Dame were called the "Irish Drunks?"
@@macronan8368 Exactly
"Stop using Native American names." Remind me: is that INclusion or EXclusion?
If I name my baseball team the Sandy Hook Massacres am I being inclusive of those kids that got shot or am I exploiting. Am I honoring them? Come on clay.
@@goforward8697 Were it called the "Indian Massacres," I would agree. To turn it around, I suppose you would not apporove of a Sandy Hook memorial statue because it had the words "Sandy Hook"?
@@goforward8697 Come on man that’s neither here nor there. Why bring a terrible tragedy into this
The Chicago Blackhawks aren't changing their name
Yeah, Let's forget about the Indians, take them out of the history books. Who cares about them!
They want you to think it's the majority of natives that dislike it, when most don't give a crap. They don't find it offensive, just like a lot of natives didn't find the "Redskins" name and image offensive. It's just a lie.
One word... media.
Many Black people aren’t offended by the “N” word. Does that make it okay?
@@crosstatt7441 10 bucks your white
Just like how Land o Lake took the land from the Indian's. People like you make me sad to be human.
100 people happy--thousands and thousands not. Obviously math is not a part of logic any more.
They say you can't say "Cleveland Indians" anymore. So we better not say "Cleveland Indians" anymore because it's offensive. We will be punished. I really don't care about the name change. I just hope the Indians have a good season. Go Indians!
If the Indians want to be forgotten, so be it! I bet the Nazis would be proud to have a team named after them!
You only ever hear about the ones who dislike the name or get offended by it…
The " woke " will now demand that the words " West Indies " be removed from every map since the West Indies had nothing to do with the Indians of India.
…it doesn’t though…
So, are we going to be changing the native american named counties, and places all over ohio now too!?
Seattle got its name from a local Indian Chief in the region. That would be interesting.
They want you to forget the American Indian. So they can take the rest of the land.
No because some got the right by native Americans to be named as such,
I think there's a difference between an entire racial group being used as a mascot and a city being named after an individual person within that racial group.
Kryssana that isn’t the same.. 🙄
springfield, mass. is famous for the indian motorcycle. you want to erase that too?
Yes, it will henceforth be called the "Guardian motorcycle" 🤣
Real Cleveland Indians fans would boycott the Guardians.
If it’s “just a name” then tell me, why are people crying over the name change? Guess it’s not “just a name” so much after all.
🤨🤦🏻♂️
Another way to forget the past... They were Indians.. how was this offensive?
Huh?
If I was Indian I would be like “hell yea go Indians”
But you’re not so…
@@goforward8697 So what
@@goforward8697 so what?
But are Indians getting any of those Proceds? Money money ??
@@cle-chi Why should money matter. Having a MLB team named after you should be plenty enough. I would be one of the happiest people in the world if I had one named after me.
How about cleaning up the city, cleaning up RTA stations, lowering prices for families. Frankly, a lot of people lost interest a long time ago when professional sports became a bragging right for the club members and the teams still suck.
In the film Major League the owner wanted the teams attendance to drop so low that she could move the team so she made it as bad as she could and the fans still showed up. Little did she know that all she had to do is change the name to something really stupid and the attendance would have easily been so low that she could move the team.
"This is a huge load off my chest"........ Is that really what you have been tossing and turning every night for? Because a baseball team who hasnt won a world series in 60 plus years has team name that you find "offensive."
I wish I my life was simple enough that I had those type of problems 😅🤣😂
@@FIGNAS83 lmfao
So much for the the 5 straight divisions titles 1995-99 and AL Champions 2016 as the Indians ( Also 1995 and 1997 AL Champions, I almost forgot)
The records aren't leaving the organization. Just the nickname is changing.
@@CROSSTATT Petty much the same thing. its all gone. Stop being so woke.
@@CROSSTATT Just like WWF changing to wwe.. Identity lost... And baseball gone
I wish my life was so easy that I could devote it to changing a sports team's name.
your life is so easy that instead you devote it to complaining about people on the internet
Ugh I’m going out on a limb to say those were not native Americans protesting. I mean maybe like a 3rd of a 3rd Native American, which is a fair amount of people.
This truly is appealing to a minority that isn’t even Native American…..woke.
It's white liberal supremacy always complaining mostly about race and their 666 genders
They were actually native Americans protesting. Even Ryan Helsley from the cardinals has fought for the name change. He’s Cherokee.
@@xwrtk I'm Native American myself it wasn't offensive towards me or any of my family members. It's getting ridiculous. What's next The Cow"boys" cause of pronouns 🤦♂️
@AZ Hawk funny you say that cause I really don't give a flipping flying f@ck about Trump or Democrats I do know however how fake ass the Democ"rats" truly are, all in on the same boat with the Re"puke"lickass of manipulating and conning people, back to the demon crats it's mostly them with their temper tantrums about race and genders that gets annoying, now it's sport team logos and names 🤦♂️
1:04 You are wasting your time, the entire franchise was named afer an Indian player so good and popular they decided to honor him by remaining the team to the Indians.
If these people did five seconds of research they should she how idiotic they really are.
Isn’t it stupid? How they want representation, when they had it all along? 😂
As a White man I'd love a team called "the Fighting Whities" I guess the local Indians are just ashamed to be who they are.
I guess you'll have to settle with the Fighting Irish.
@@PlannedObsolescence Thats so racist....But they love it. It's like they are proud of it. Amazing !
There was a team made of mostly Native Americans and African descendants called "The Fighting Whites". I kid you not!
@@CROSSTATT I know, Believe they were an Alaskan high school team... They were pressured to change it. Called white supremist for it
All reference or memory of those conquered peoples should be erased and never called to mind again!!!😘😘😘
Yeah you're therefore erasing history
BLM Biden won the election couldn't even win win win
THIS
@@vsocarras27 the tribes are the initiators of the removal ...
"we're going to keep coming back here until we get a cut of the Chief Wahoo merchandising revenue"
Leave chief wahoo alone
Just in Cleveland. I have spoke with 1534 native Americans that are not happy with name change.
How is a MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL team named after an Indian offensive. I guess including Indians in our culture is racist. If anyone is being racist it’s the ones that were offended by the Cleveland Indians and the ones that changed it.
But Native Americans have NOT been included in our culture- they have been and continue to be robbed by American society. Most egregiosly, their land has been repeatedly STOLEN from them. And there have been NO REPARATIONS! Read some history, and forget about Chief Wahoo.
My mom is half Pawnees,half Cherokee I never had a problem with the indians.now it's the guardians.like prison staff? It's trash.
State of Colorado High Schools are deciding Case by Case to Change ALL Indian mascots named team as well.
This should offend natives Americans, they are trying to erase anything symbolizing Native American history. It’s racist to eliminate the Indian names
My junior high used to be the Indians , I drive by the school occasionally and since 2010 they are the jaguars
So they go with the Cleveland guardians named after big giant human looking things with wings that watch over and protect people, most would call angels (Guardian angels). Now they’re going to offend non-religious people.
Love how most of these protesters aren't Natives...
Neither are you
Changing tradition to please ten drunken Indian protesters. Lame! Baseball is dead to me.
I'm not losing my sh_te over a name change. I just wonder who really is feeling better by this happening?
probably the people affected. did you not watch the video? this is coming from a literal australian lmao
@@memeju1ce If those people that were "affected" by a team name, then need to take a real long look in the mirror and reevaluate their whole, entire existence
@@KingGemini87 not just the name, but the racist caricature as well.
@@memeju1ce Chief Wahoo was not racist nor was he meant to be racist
@@KingGemini87 that’s incredibly ignorant
I come from a mixed heritage family as most Americans are Irish, Jewish, Black Foot and Cherokee.. Basically I’m a mutt from a bunch of hateful wronged people lol. And I am proud of my family and my ancestry. But someone has to say it this is ridiculous. I feel like changing all the native mascots is just trying to further erase their existence. Most families were so broken up by the us government when babies were taken away in droves by children services because of the poor conditions of the reservations that there are children with native Ancestry that don’t even know what tribe they and their family belonged to. There has been enough damage done to the natives pride that now any little symbol of pride like a team mascot winning national championships has to be scrubbed away from existence. It’s ridiculous kids can see these mascots and teams winning games and get a sense of pride but better a sense of curiosity. These mascots make kids think and google and find out there real history. And these baby soft advocate groups are grand standing and erasing all of images that make people ask questions. You don’t see A bunch of fat white guys outside Minnesota screaming how dare they use the Vikings as a mascot.
Does being a Indian giver relate to this?
Sooooo dumb…. It would gave been better of they completely rebranded… buuuttt nooooooo Guardians…. Cmon man….
"More work to be done" it's funny how they always say that, huh...
they'll eventually get rid of their own culture..one pitch at a time..
So are they changing indiana next???
It's not the same as using terms from Native American languages such as "Oklahoma" or "Cuyahoga". Also, naming schools after prominent Native Americans such as Sitting Bull or Pocahontas. However, appropriating culture such as using Chief Wahoo or wearing sacred items such as the red feather or a headdress is unacceptable.
@@CROSSTATT we gone do it anyway I still wear the chief
Keyshawn Scott 12 Eventually, it's not going to be allowed at the stadium.
@@CROSSTATT well fuck y'all that made this happen the chief is awesome y'all want a perfect un offensive society hell I'm black and didn't look and aunt jamama and got mad cause she was a slave I'm like ok and still love her doe
Cleveland spiders is a better name then guardians but I support Indians with chief wahoo
I don't understand how they could not simply retro the logo a bit, a more proud logo of the chief, etc...and keep the name in a very respectful and proud way to honor the history of our Native Americans. Now, nobody will care what the teams are changed from. Our proud history is lessened, less known, less appreciated. What do people thing of when you hear Rams or Patriots? Strength and pride, not insults certainly. 2c.
So the franchise have agreed to change the name. They won't pick up one single fan from changing the name and they'll lose lots of fans from changing the name. Many native American's either didn't care about the name or actually liked it. Not a great move. The only thing they accomplished is to make themselves irrelevant.
One day in the future some native America kid will ask why their culture and people aren't represented in American culture like whites are. Someone will have to explain to them that at one time they had sports teams as well as other things that one represented them until a bunch of pasty white left wingers forced them out.
The Radical Left has a LOT of power!!
I have about 15% Cherokee blood. I love this team because I lived in Cleveland half my life and they are my home team. However, as an American with Indian heritage I am left to wonder if all references of our fundamental national heritage are wiped away, as they have been in Cleveland recently by this marketing campaign, will we still remember our native Indian forefathers and mothers? I am a proud Cleveland fan. I was more proud when the team represented part of my American heritage as the "Indians." I mean, what was more cool than that?? The Cowboys??? Now they are the Guardians!! Jeez. The guardians of political correctness, anti-history, cancel culture in the extreme. What a shame. The good news is the Guardians organization can rename the team whenever the market beckons.
To be democratic there should have been a vote by citizens of Cleveland on the name change. But once again the masses were run over by a minority. The tail wagging the dog! Will this create animosity against Indians?
My high school sports teams have the name “Warriors” and have a respectful mascot (much like the blackhawks) yet we had to get rid of the mascot. Also, my school is in a predominantly white area so there were probably max 10% native Americans complaining and 90% white people complaining
When are they going after Atlanta Braves and their tomahawk motion. I think that would be more offensive the Indians.
Well now you should change all the casino names. Is gambling part of your family values and respect to your tribes? What you demand of others you must do yourself.
What's next the Kansas City Chefs? Chefs hat for for the logo?
As a Chiefs fan, I would be so furious if they changed the name and probably not be a fan of them anymore
Maybe use fire fighting imagery instead. A firefighter is an occupation, not an ethnicity. You could still be the Chiefs, just different imagery. Which is why the Golden State Warriors aren't normally targeted.
And I thought I could not dislike the MLB more... I was wrong! Go WOKE go Broke!
Native/Indian sports names I feel are fine if you use the local tribes names and an accurate logo. Also approval from the tribe. Something like naming your team ‘“Savages” and having a stereotypical Indian logo is bad. Also yes, that is a real name of a high school team.
Imagine crying over a baseball team changing its name then calling other people “snowflakes”
That’s hilarious. The new name stinx . Fans don’t like it when non fans decide things in their fun world. Their traditions and sense of community. Names come with stories. History feels real to people 🥸😎🤓
Same goes for the people protesting
What no CZcams comments section said no one was offended by it
Ahhh yes we should just forget about native Americans altogether good job 👏 people cheering and being proud to be Indian fans is a bad thing? Glad those 500 people got their way. Those 500 who aren’t even Native American. Because every Native American I’ve ever spoke too love the name being it brings their culture into the spotlight and allows them not to be forgotten.
Montana Native American`s love the Cleveland Indians name!
I agree, put them on the shelf and let them collect dust.
This brought to us by the same people who brought us diversity.
I’m Native American myself, and honestly, I loved both the team name and Chief Wahoo. They never offended me at all.
What DID offend me, was quite ironically, the name CHANGING. That, I believe, is dishonoring, as if they don’t want to remember we even exist.
As a real cowboy. That Dallas team offends me
im making a prediction it could be wrong or it could hapen . if they change the name back to the Indians , the tribe , then they will win a world series . im saying it right here .
Cleveland Rockers would have been better
Only People from India should be offended, all because that Spaniard Columbus was Lost! 🤣
I am part Cherokee and my family has full blooded Indians in it. they do NOT complain about the name. or Redskins etc. where does it all come from ? NOT OFFENSIVE to us. WHAT Indian tribes are offended by it ? and why ? hey it brought the INDIANS in a good showing for us all. STOP CANCEL CULTURE!
I am right there with you.
I’ve met Chris; he’s a great guy. Also, he’s from the Navajo tribe.
Dolan only changed the name for money. It was clearly a business move. Yeah it wasn't because of pressure from sponsors like it was with the Redskins but he changed it before it got to that point. I never considered the Indians name offensive at all. I just looked at it as another sports team name. Political correctness is a joke.
I’m pretty sure the people featured in this ONE SIDED news report are the ONLY Native Americans they could find that didn’t like the name. Everyone else had better things to do with their lives.
What all of you who endorsed this name change did- and I am speaking to fellow native american nations- is that you took the name of the Cleveland Indians and trampled on it right in front of me. My great great grandmother was a 100% Cherokee native american nation woman whom that even though I would never meet her- it is my belief that she would be insulted and it would not only be a slap in the face to her- but to me and others-because in my heart I believe that her and her ancestors would support the Cleveland Indians name. To find out that it was changed- because of the opinion of a small group of people from other native nations and because of political pressue is PATHETIC! The Cleveland Guardians have no history- to me- THEY DON'T EXIST! It has always been the Cleveland Indians from when I was born and should have stayed that way. Because of this and others- I believe that a FORCED SALE of the MLB franchise should be ENACTED and that it would not only result in a vote of NO CONFIDENCE in the administrator leadership of this franchise and that it be sold to someone who would honor the fans and get our beloved team back.
And folks- a FORCED SALE does work. Look it up.
One last thing-
I would post a list of names who support the Guardians name change- but I don't want to be sued, harassed or gone after by doing so. But do your research. You'll know who in Cleveland are traitors to the Cleveland Indians fan base and you're probably watching them.
Cleveland Indian’s for life
Bruh. They are the natives everyone else is just American
GO CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS!
Begay??? Is it even he from Cleveland? That a Navajo name
Saw maybe 2 Indians in that group of protesters? The rest are just part of progressively worse crowd.
Really, they are Native Americans not Indians, well really both are given names not what they called themselves. America is a name given to a land that already was called something. So...
This kills me. It was not a rasicist name. When you celebrate a race with a team named for their greatness. It's sad to see that stupid people are offended and smart people follow. Just erase history and name the team after the highest bit from a cooperation.
I guess the next protest will be because there's no law that makes wearing Indians merchandise a crime. What about my Indians baseball cards? If I keep them, does that make me a racist?
Yes, burn them 🤣
@@FIGNAS83 Hahaha! Even my Bob Feller cards?
Are Celtic people offended by the Boston Celtic's or people from Scandinavian offended by the Minnesota Viking's? I think not!
What if the Celtic logo was named "O'Mally, the Wife Beater"? Hey, it's just good clean fun.
What if the Raiders logo meant something else than Just Win Baby
How about just cutting to the chase and changing the name to The Cleveland Democrats. Or would that offend Democrats?
Now that you people destroyed cleveland and washington dc, go after florida state,kc,chicago blackhawks, and any team that represents your heritage
Sadly, they will. As a Braves fan the moment they change their name I'm done with baseball.
I will stop watching hockey if the Blackhawks change their name.
@@kane10238 Are there protesters at Blackhawk games? I'm curious!
Native American Chief joins Joshua Aaron at the Tower of David - Enjoy!
Wake Up America
this is total bullish im Chickasaw and i support the Cleveland Indians Chief Wahoo Forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No not all native Americans wanted to change the name. Only the minority that is afraid of they're shadow.
I believe that. Different people have different values. Even if they're Cherokee or Navajo.
Come again if your native
The 5% of natives that voted change the name are snowflakes
Just look at all the mad white people today about a teams name change , and I bet they would tell you their not racist, now I can root for my home baseball team with out feeling like I'm disrespecting my Native American roots.
You're so full of crap
It's annoying actually..
Native indian must protest whole national movement just like canadian children bureied..
Start the protest.
I’m from St. Louis and this is so lame. I’m a diehard Cardinals fan but I always liked the Indians logo and growing up I loved the “Major League”movies. They caved to a tiny sliver of the population who have never been to a baseball game in their lives.
Bring back the Indians!!!!! It’ll never end with people crying about anything. Change the Chicago Bears name bc the Bears are offended. Give me a break. Go protest something more serious
At least they didn’t name it the Browns 2
Youre a failure
Thanks to those ignorants protesting , Wahoo 4 ever.
Racist? Are you kidding me?
Look up Louis Sockalexis
i read a book about him i was 4th grade, awesome player
A small group wins
WATCHING THEM DANCE IS OFFENSIVE TO ME STOP IT N TAKE YOUR DRUM SOMEWHERE ELSE
I got tons of merch with Chief Wahoo
Is it me or does the nayive American culture resemble Chinese or Asian culture ...
Sad
Why is that sad. Why are you being racist? Anyways as long as we are all humans we have a shared culture.
@@inspiringer6418 as long as we are all humans ?
What does that mean..
What else could we be
And how was my commnt racist
I was stating a fact
It's sad that this land is built on lies....
That's wat sickens me
What's next - ND Fighting Irish.???
I will still refer to them as the Indians.
Take a shot for every snowflake that you see in this video.
*Please don't, I don't want you to get hurt. Have a good day friend :)*
Why not Cleveland Tribe or something, at least keep the native atmosphere with the team
It'd be like calling themselves the Cleveland Italians. It's a stupid fucking name.
People are so sensitive
It's just stupid because I don't understand what's the problem? Why change the name? Because extreme woke liberals are offended? How? How is having native American symbols offensive? Isn't it diverse or inclusive, brings out culture? Stop these stupid unnecessary changes and leave it alone.
What a crock
So fkn done with this woke ass team
They're going lose fans and business.
seriously, political correctness has gone over the edge, come on!