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This just makes me appreciate the tattooers that refuse to do face tattoos on younger people or people that hardly have any tattoos.
Big time predator vibes.
I’m pretty covered and in my mid 30s, I ran an idea by at artist for my face and he talked me out of it
@@baby.nay.and me.
Most people I know who are heavily tattooed have a tattoo from when they just turned 18 that they don’t like anymore. One person even said to me, “it’s fine, though, because at least it’s in a place where it’s not always visible.” A tattoo artist could easily just take the money and do what they’re told. But it’s completely understandable that they might not want to tattoo a teenager’s face for their first tattoo. Because they’ve been there before.
It might be that stars on the face seems quite tame to this tattoo artist given his own appearance.
Why would he even AGREE to give an 18 year old such a huge FACE tattoo?? That right there is just ridiculous. I would think/hope most artists would refuse. It's one thing if it's an older, fully matured person who already has tattoos. An 18 year old who, I have to imagine, likely had few or no tattoos prior, is not ready for that choice. I'm so glad I was broke at that age, no telling what I would have asked for 😅 the one I got at 17 I had covered up at 26 because I realized how dumb it was.
That said, my neck tattoo(behind ear) I definitely could have fallen asleep during if it had been bigger/taken more time. It's the only one I've gotten that was legitimately painless, and felt more like a massage 😅 I did close my eyes and felt like I was going to nod off but it was small so only took maybe 10 minutes lol. Not sure a face tattoo would be as relaxing, though 🤔
Well she's from Belgium so the law/rules might be different there. I got my 1st tattoo at 16 with parents consent and that was in America 🤣
Because they are paying for it and old enough to make the decision.
yeah most tattoo artists turn down clients who want face tattoos unless they're already heavily tattooed already
If kids are mature enough to decide to eat hormones and cut off body parts, 18yo's are definitely more than old enough to decide what they want to do with their bodies.
I'm from Belgium and was a small kid in 2009. The story of the girl who accidentally got her face tattooed full of stars and had to laser remove them was like a myth that kids told each other. I never knew it was based on a real story!
you do know she asked for this, right?
The girl was only 16 years old she begged her father to get the tattoos he gave consent and he was there with her in the room aware of everything the tattoo artist was doing to his daughter's face this was done to teach her a lesson some people should never be parents😢
@@janetsnyder6448 she was not 16. Your story is 100% made up.
@@quineloe yeah after watching the video I do. I genuinely didn't know more about the story as a kid then what I wrote in the comment, my brother told me about it. Tbh I thought it happened in America
I don't have so much of a problem with the tattooist tattooing the stars, but putting your name right across someone's face is another thing! I remember also reading at the time that there was an ex-girlfriend whose face he had also tattooed his name on (not the whole face - above the eyebrow). To me it just seems like a really creepy thing to do - signing your name on someone's face is literally putting your identity on top of theirs. No one can look at them without seeing you(r name). It gives me the icks!
It is a control & insecurity issue with him.
It's quite common to have a partner's name tattoo on your face. Weird that you assume the woman didn't ask for it. And the guy's face is completely covered in tattoos and piercings, so he clearly doesn't see facial tattoos as a big deal.
@@jamesflames6987 it is not common for a tattoo artist to sign off on their work by tattooing their name on their clients. Only narcissistic pieces of shit do that
I highly suspect that the young lady has "buyer's remorse". She wanted stars on her face, she saw the template applied on her face, she took a break and saw the progress of the stars and of course, saw them when finished. I suspect friends and family were appalled when they saw her tattooed face and this is why she claims to be "innocent" of what happened by falling asleep (bullshit) rather than admitting she requested it.
exactly
She lied. 5:53
I'd have buyer's remorse too if my tattoos looked this bad. This is TERRIBLE tattoo quality. He should have paid the whole removal amount for putting sub par tattoos on someone's face. They're both idiots.
@@MrVani11ahe sucks but she most likely have seen his work and still went on to make the tattoo, it's all her problem
“Personal tragedy.” That your dad got mad about your face tattoo that you voluntarily chose to get?
I'm not gonna justify her...
but you gotta admit, regretting a tattoo is really a personal tragedy
let alone a face ugly trendy one
So her argument was that he tattooed so soft she could fall asleep, but so fast that she didn't get suspicious, and apparently free-handed 56 perfect stars? He must be the best tattoo artist ever, he's the new Ink Master.
The star girl was such a wild story back in the day. I had no idea about the backstory of the other face tattoo. The way you said "It's not a decision I would make.. but it is a decision they made." is just the best way to sum it up lolo
How obvious does a lie have to be?
The classic I fell asleep while getting a tattoo story
The og lol
At first I thought, this aint falling asleep... this is passing out at a house party.
Turned out she was actually in a studio.
Damn, where do I have to fall asleep to get a free tattoo, need the location ASAP😢😂
Opioids can do that
She made it all up ..god she needs to lay off the crack
Honestly I trust artists that refuse to do the work a little more. Like they are the professionals who know better and I respect them turning down money to keep someone from making a life altering mistake.
I also wonder if ANY other artist would do more work on her in the future I would be scared
"Star-Spangled Face" had me rollin' 😂😂
I do find it quite odd that anyone would agree to give a teenager (she was 18) a face tattoo at all, never mind one that big.
Going by her age and pictures, she wasn’t heavily tattooed.
Between that, only realizing afterwards that her father wouldn’t be happy, and the name thing, I do wonder if the tattoo was her idea, or proposed by the artist, convincing her to do it.
The story is just so very odd.
i don't know if all of that implies it may have been his idea however i think he definitely should've said no for all those reasons
I remember when this was all over the news as a child, and I do believe it was her first tattoo. it was even the tattooer's defense, saying that there was no way that somebody who was getting their first tattoo would fall asleep especially being tattooed on the face. plus 3 stars wouldn't really leave you enough time to fall asleep
that being said, that does put the tattoo artist in a worse light for me tbh. I had never heard that she had come forward and admitted to lying, but the fact that you would see an 18 year old with 0 tattoos and immediately agree to do that kind tattoo seems kind of irresponsible to me
a tattoo artist can refuse to tattoo someone's face or hands if they aren't heavily tattooed, that's not illegal. they can refuse service for anyone. it's only illegal if you're discriminating against someone because of their membership in a protected class.@@otigerlily
@@otigerlily actually tattoo artists routinely turn down tattoos for any reason they want (mostly because its not a good idea) including refusing to do face tattoos all together. i think many tattoo artists would have turned that girl down because she was so young and didn't have any other visible tattoos
@@finx1582 that was my thinking too.
I’m not super experienced (1 tattoo only, albeit a very unsubtle one), but I hear about ‘the rule’ of no face/neck/hands tattoos (jobstoppers?) unless being heavily tattooed, no face tattoos under (insert age way above the legal age here), unless you have a solid career that won’t be harmed by it, and so on.
And also tattoos getting refused, simply because the artist isn’t feeling it.
⭐️ I think tattoo artists need to take more accountability when it comes to this kind of stuff. Even if she asked for the face tattoo, an 18 year old with no other tattoos is not in the right place to make that decision. It’s irresponsible to put a face tattoo on someone that young IMO. And his girlfriend? That also feels like a red flag. It’s good that she seems happy with it, but he shouldn’t have agreed to do that tattoo especially so early in the relationship.
So should McDonald's get sued for making you fat?
As a Belgian girl who gets tattoos, my parents mention this story to me every time I get a new piece
I wonder how old you will be when you start to regret your tattoos.
@@carollynt I am a whole ass grown woman in her twenties living alone babes, I am not a child
@@violeteyes5255 Imagine coming to a tattooing channel to hate on people who get tattooed. Just say you’re not cool enough to pull them off and leave 😽
@dontaskdontpastel6414 If you think that you have to have tattoos to be cool, that shows just how insecure you are, but you're a woman, so that's obvious. I'm sure you cake on the makeup too. So, what else about you is fake? Probably everything.
Written consent is the first thing that came to my mind. And if I was an a tattoo artist I would make it detailed. What it is, approximate size, placement on the body, ink colours, costs. If it was a first tattoo, make them wait a month.
Ive had my face tattooed and im one of those people that falls asleep during tattoos... but theres no way on this planet that anyone could sleep through a face tattoo.. its next level pain and swelling.
Classic case of buyer’s remorse. She just blames it on the tattoo artist but really she consented to all of it, until her Dad came along, that is. Then she knew she was in for it, so she shifts blame, refusing to take responsibility for poor, regrettable decisions.
“Fell asleep” my ass.
I don't see any reason to believe he pressured either of them into anything? And just implying he did without any reason is pretty serious. If i was gonna be saying someone might have pressured people i would have resources.
@@Arkengel that is a good point and I do think it's weird, but so far I haven't seen her say she didn't want it, so as far as i can tell it seemed consensual. So I do think its weird and seems like a way of feeling powerful and belittling her, but I just haven't seen proof of him pressuring her into it yet. I could be wrong tho and maybe he did? Anyway thanks for your opinion :)
She better have apologized to that artist for slandering him in such an extreme way as a dishonest teenaged idiot.
If a father's anger has conditioned her to make such desperate lies and accuse others of crimes just to redirect his anger, that can't have been a healthy parental relationship.
And I hate to think what someone like that would say about a boy if she got pregnant as a teen...
That's how some innocent guys get locked up, or get killed by the enraged fathers of scared liars.
celle's voice is so soothing
Frrr!!!
My first tattoo I was actually pretty close to falling asleep lol My tattoo artist was very gentle and it didn't hurt too much for most of the 3 hours. However that was on my upper arm, not near my eyeballs so more reasonable LOL I actually had to make sure NOT to fall into a nap because it would've been a light sleep and I could've jolted awake and messed up the tattoo.
I think what helps is it is a sort of dull ache, and it's a bit like when you are sore/sick you get comfortable somewhere and your body wants to sleep it off even though it's currently hurting a bit.
I feel like there is a huge difference between YOU wanting your partner's name tattooed, and YOUR PARTNER wanting you to get their name tattooed.
Personally, I would never get theirs or ask my partner to get mine.
I’ve been through this 😂 my husband got my name tatted on him & I was against it. But he wanted too and so he did it. After he got it done, Tell me why he asked me to get his name tattooed on me?! I’m like “NO I don’t want too. I don’t want to tattoo anyone’s name on me unless it’s my kids.” He was so hurt. Lmfaoo Personally I think it’s stupid to tattoo a spouse’s name on you. What if that relationship doesn’t work out? And now you have too look at their name on you, and it’ll just remind you of them. SMH 🤦♀️ It’s just stupid! I always told myself that I would never get a man’s name tatted on me. And I stuck by that promise. Idk why people do it lol
@@prettylladyI honestly feel like tattooing a name curses the relationship. Everyone I know who got a couple tattoo of any kind broke up later lol. It’s just such a bad idea
I feel like he pressured her to do it so he could ‘trap’ her into a relationship. It just seems off.
I feel like he pressured her to do it so he could ‘trap’ her into a relationship. It just seems off.
@@kittysaysmeow22that's a pretty serious accusation based off nothing
clicked to watch this bc the star girl is such a nostalgia hit lmao. she was all over youth magazines.
as for the face-name, i think that's cute in a way. like i wouldnt do it but they must have had a huge clarity in going HARD for each other and i respect that. especially if thanks to him her skill in tattooing could come out and if they're still together ⭐
please make a video about tattoos over scars and stretchmarks, also tattoo artist recommendations theres so little information ive found and i think itll help alot of people thank u either way!
Oh yes I would be absolutely interested in a video on this!! From the rainbow stretch marks to the surgery scar tattoos, I’ve wondered things like how the age
I think stretch marks can create issues for tattoos but it really depends on how big and/or sensitive the scar. Getting tattooed over mine hurt more but it came out perfect. Could be an interesting video. But please have a skilled professional look at your scars if you want advice.
This
I gained weight and my first tattoo looked shaky (it was mostly lines) due to stretch marks. I talked to a tattoo artist I had a great experience with and so she added more shading and details, it didn’t hurt any different to other tattoos and looks absolutely amazing. She told me as long as the scar is healed (stretch marks are scars technically) if the person knows what they’re doing it’s absolutely feasible. Of course in my case it helped that she knew my skin and how it healed. (Inside of the arm if that matters). If you’re in Europe, I can tell you her name since she sometimes does guest spots.
@@hhslf yes ive been getting laser and all but these things don't actually work and with my skin they leave some sort of pigment that faded after two years, i think tattoos is the best way to hide them since the doctors didnt help as much as i wouldve wanted
I didn't believe it back then, I don't believe it now. Between someone falling asleep during a borderline eyeball tattoo, and a tattoo artist not being able to do baby artist's first tattoo, counting to three, the whole thing is still shady as hell.
You didn't watch the whole video did you? Like said in the video; she came clean after a week and admitted she made the whole falling asleep story up after being confronted with her father's angry reaction to the tattoo, so she put the blame on the artist...
bro finish the video before commenting
@@_Morri_ Why would I comment before finishing? How does it change what I said?
@@RetroDeath the "I don't believe it now"; like the truth isn't known yet by now. That you don't believe she fell asleep. So y, well duh sherlock, she didn't.
2 years ago i was in a really dark place, i went as far as trying to unalive with a blade so to me pain was an escape and i fell asleep while getting tattooed. The studio where i go they always make you lie down so i was on my stomach, head on a comfy pillow and about 5 minutes in i was gone. The amazing artist messaged me the next day because he saw i was not doing great and he wanted to make sure i was okay 🖤
I thought there was a consensus among tattooers not to tattoo the face before you're heavily tattooed? I think there's a lot of fishy going on here tbh
Honestly I think maybe the star face tattoo has just earned him a type of notoriety that attracts people who want to shock with their tattoos.
I've been with my husband for 40+ years & I wouldn't want his name tattooed on me anywhere let alone my face but to each their own, if she's happy that's all that matters?! ⭐
Nope..however, henna stain would be great!
If if lasts about yvweeks, and you get a retouch..like a hair service or cut
I guess what I find weirdest is the fact it's his NAME? I mean if it was literally any other kind of face tat, even something equally big, that isn't so obviously signalling that she "belongs" to him, I'd be like "ah that's fine". It's especially fine considering that she went for a career in tattooing. But his name? Yea no. There's something sketchy there.
He's my dad tattoo artist. The man is excentric to talk to. I met him and his wife 2 years back and she's lovely
Well, if I want to mark a girl as "she's mine!", I give her a big hickey. That seems much more normal and appropriate to me than writing my name across her face. - But apparently there are people who see this differently.
Whenever I get the "I want his name on me", I always think of my mother telling me to NEVER get a mans name tattooed on me. I've kept my promise so far 😁
the emoji at the end being a star was so funny for some reason
He literally branded his girlfriend. That’s insane. I wouldn’t let him anywhere near me with a tattoo gun.
This is why I have trust issues 😅 ⭐️
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Yeah no I wouldn't even get a tiny tattoo on my ankle of a partners name not to mention on my face! I've seen way too many of my friends need to get a cover for a partners name.. Even when you feel like the relationship will last forever, shit happens.. It's never a good idea
My dad fell asleep during a tattoo once. He had unchecked sleep apnea though so....
I wouldn’t say that he pressures women into getting face tattoos. I think it’s probably the case that it’s more taboo for women to have face tattoos, so it’s picked up by the media and general public more. But i haven’t actually looked at his whole portfolio so idk
My tattoo time was 20 minutes and it was painful but also relaxing I can understand why people can fall asleep during tattoos
One time I fell asleep while getting my left cornea tattooed to say “live laugh love” and my tattoo artist took the opportunity to make me look like someone from the blue man group! There isn’t a single square millimeter of my skin that isn’t blue!! I went to a beautiful resort but I kept getting stepped on and crushed in the pool. They couldn’t see me I blended right in! My life is ruined!
say sike rn
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⭐ I love your subtle sense of humor! I've been married for over 27 years and probably piss my wife off daily, so ya having GREG tattooed across her face would probably annoy both of us! lol!! The "star" girl was just "young and dumb" and made a poor decision. Great content! Informative and entreating! ❤
Dude I have a friend who has had FIVE different boyfriends get her name tatted over the years. She always acts like it’s just something that they wanted to do but I’m sure she’s the one putting it in their head. She’s never gotten anyone’s name tatted.
The face tattoo on his wife is actually so nice. Like I thought it was a bit odd at first but it's so well done and looks very nice on her
I was thinking that too! I think she looks BEAUTIFUL and rocks it so well! (especially for it being such a silly tattoo idea).
I thought so too, at first though maybe not so much
ethically it seems very obvious to me that he should have said 'absolutely fucking not' to an 18yo asking for a face full of stars, and as their first visible tattoo?! like that's an obvious no
People have better things to do than tattoo extra stars on the face of sleeping teenagers.
This was a massive story in belgium! I was 12 year old or smth back then and it was wild
How are there only 39 likes? I didn’t realize these two stories involved the same artist. Learned something new. ⭐️⭐️⭐️
Give me a break! This girl didn't sleep through her tattoo. She thought it was great and exactly what she wanted until her parents and friends saw her and hated it. Then she lied and blamed the tattoo artist.
Me and my sister fall asleep because we have a illness that causes us to be in pain all day having a tattoo makes us focus the pain in one point and it’s like a calming effect
I’ve never fallen asleep, I’ve been very relaxed and just chilling, but I have a horrific fear I’ll fall asleep and roll off the chair and onto my artist and I could never deal with that level of sheer embarrassment ever again. 😂
i fell asleep once and was drooling on my arm. now i make sure to STAY AWAKE
@@kionake1 omg that’s another fear for me too 😭😭💀💀
You're so beautiful. I hope that YOU don't ever get a face tattoo. You're to pretty. Your face comforts me. I might sound like a creep, but when I see your face, it makes my day. When I get off of work, I love to watch your channel. Thank you for brightening my days.
I love your videos sm, your voice is so calming and the topics are fascinating! ❤
I mean the artist did make a 3 in stars 😂
⭐ I definitely would never get my partner's name tattooed across my face, although I'm a teacher so any large face tattoo is out of the question for me entirely! 😆
And meanwhile my list of "Tattoos I don't do" at the shop I work at includes facial tattoos...
So I never believed you could fall asleep during a tattoo but when I had a big piece done on my thigh I genuinely did nearly fall asleep and whenever I do a full day sitting I get sleepy. I think it’s my bodies way of dealing with the pain like it makes me super tired. Doubt you could fall asleep during a face tattoo though 😂
I’ve had 2 tattoos I basically fell asleep for. 1 did include a little alcohol the other was just masking trauma lol. 1st was 15 years ago the other was 20yrs ago. It can happen but these were both in my back NOT MY FACE!!!!!!
I always have wondered about this. Thanks and hello from Australia 🇦🇺
I almost fell alsleep getting the side of my neck tattooed - it was a needed break from all my mental pains 😹 it was really relaxing, hahah. I had to fight to not fall asleep, so I didn't move away from the tattoo artist 😸 Btw, I love your channel, I found it yesterday 💜
at least the face script looks good healed, those stars were janky af
Ah yes that girl... That was a big thing here in the Netherlands way back when. Any sane person here immediately thought she was lying.
you hsould read stories, you have the chillest voice
He did a 3th of these awful abusive and ‘branding’ face tats, look up Joyce Noppe Ruslan
At the end of the day Kimberly made her own decision…but that being said, considering what he did to his now-wife immediately upon meeting her in person, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the tattoo artist had emphatically encouraged her to go through with it.
I'm Dutch, and I remember this story, hahaha. I don't think that back then ANYBODY believed that that girl fell asleep during all that.
Yeah that pain make me sleepy all the time it's like little massage
I feel asleep and missed the upload, dang it! 😂
"Woke up witha strange tattoo..." (star emoji)
My goddd I hope Lesya is okay with her decision
That's a 💩 load of lip piercings. 😂
NOT hating on pierced people but I am sure they severely hurt his credibility in the court room 😑
Ngl i really like how the stars look.
OMG same
My aunt tattooed the first name of her bf on her back and when she got a new bf he had the same first name 😂
This is why my brother gave teens and younger adults "the talk" before agreeing to tattooing them, and he absolutely refused to do hands and faces on anyone who wasn't heavily tattooed already.
Teen getting her face covered in stars and blaming the artists - clearly has lots of growing up to do still. No critical thinking skills whatsoever.
Regarding the girlfriend getting his name on her face - extremely low self-esteem is all that comes to mind.
As for the artist in question - dude needs to slow down and check his attitude. I'm no psychologist, but that are some narcissistic tendencies.
I think people have a right to get face tattoos if they want them, but I also think this artist doesn't have the best judgement ever ⭐
⭐ partner's name tattoo was considered "cursed" where I came up, "kiss of death" - breakup imminent hahaha 🌠
If u can’t sterile yourself at that age, I don’t see why you can get a face tattoo especially as she seemly doesn’t have any others.
I’m surprised she didn’t just get outright refused. My local tattoo shop will not let you get any painful or very “visual” tattoos (face/neck/etc) as a first tattoo. A lot of people put up a fuss, but they are very firm on the rule.
I just got my first tattoo started and I love it! The artist did such a good job 😭
While I could lay down and get sleepy. There's no way I could have fallen asleep. When I got up at the end I felt super groggy like I woke up from a nap. The last 15 minutes were intense so I definitely couldn't have fallen asleep
0:45 at my last appt with my artist, she shared a video she took of a guy that she was doing a shin/calf tattoo on, and the guy was sleeping like a baby, haha... snoring gently, he was apparently a manual construction worker, just off a 12 hour work day and was totally exhausted, but didn't want to break the appt.
⭐️- love ur content, thank u!
This was NOT personal tragedy. This was a personal stupidity with teenage behavior of lying, blaming others, not taking responsibility and making herself a victim.
I doubted that
It does feel like a phenomenal level of narcissism to even ask someone to have your name tattooed across their ENTIRE face.
Am I right in thinking before this story, the tattoo artist did not make clients fill consent forms, read terms & conditions which also included ID ect… ?
Because if all this was carried out beforehand, then legally it wouldn’t fall on him if all the correct forms were signed & filled. I’ve had to with every tattoo artist in the uk, and write down all my medications & allergies!
ohhhh I remember this, yeah I find it very strange that tattoo artist would go crazy like that if it wasn’t what she request and not check in now and again
It’s the old ‘think before you ink’ that is clique but true. But when I was a teenager no one could tell me 😂
I am from Colombia and remember this making headlines in my country when it happened, it had everyone talking 😂
This is so cruel. Getting a tattoo you never asked for and without your permission. The tattoo artist should be charged.
I think that getting a name tattooed all across your face is crazy. In some weird way I think it looks pretty on her but I just feel like it’s definitely not something I’d do or recommend.
The star issue, I think it would have been fine provided she was older and more heavily tattooed but that was probably her first one.
How does that artist even eat with all those lip rings 😂
Heck, I would feel dumb. They passed out because of the pain, they are not asleep
The guy tattooing his name on his girlfriends face is showing his insecurity. Also a way of controlling her as he knows no other man will want her now. 🤦🏼♀️
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love your voice! 💛
⭐ Love you❤️ great video as always 😘
my parents saw this on the news waaaay back and used it to scare me into never getting tattoos!
Wait, what was their spiel though? Don't get tattooed, you might fall asleep and get tattooed 🤷
@@mikeg6541 😂 it was more like “don’t get tattoos, it will be a bad decision and you might end up with something like 56 stars on your face forever and never get a job!”
Modern clothing seems so boring, orvelse tattoos wouldn't have exploded
Sci fi people in the 1930s didn't predict this
I fell asleep during a large shoulder piece. My tattooist has seen it twice in 35 yrs. I wouldn’t have minded so much but apparently I snored 🥺
To have a young adult get a face tattoo and a woman he was dating get a face tattoo, and then jump to something like maybe there's something where he pressures women to get face tattoos... What a jump, lol I think I got whiplash
(i know nothing about these people besides this video of yours but dang)
baaaha you would "wake up" from the paint alone, because not everyone has the same pain tolerance
I fell asleep while getting a tattoo on my upper arm. That being said, I can't imagine falling asleep while getting a tattoo on my FACE.
Edit: I guess I should have watched the whole video before commenting 😂. What a stupid lie to tell.
Also, women's skin is different than men...
Men really have thicker eyelashes and skin