The Ancestors of Pokemon Legends Arceus
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Or…you know…Cogita and Volo are just family.
It would be weird because volo doesn’t refer to cogita as a family member
@phillipclearman859maybe they're just kinky 💀
@Phillip Clearman He's a bastard son -not allowed to refer to her as mother. >:P
@@MyHeartIsOhMyGod they can also be just like really distant cousins or something
it’s suggested that there exists some “ancient sinnoh blood” or wtv some family bloodline that cogitas inherited and during the final fight volo questions whether he doesn’t also share that ancestry in his little “chosen one” delusion
Cynthia just dropped the biggest Paradox ever and no one talks shit about it
Meanwhile idw shockwave
Because Game Freak writes lore like they are in third grade.
BS.
Cynthia would have figured out how to save the world long before we came along.
Hell, she'd probably have fixed then issue to begin with.
@@mesmorrow coz they made the game for kids lmao.
@@Derevocsidi is this a joke?
News flash: People have more than one ancestor.
Beat me to it
newsflash people NEED more than one ancestor
News flash: ancestors can also have plenty of descendants that look nothing like them.
@@emperorxander666Even the Habsburg needed 2
👏👏👏🥹🥹🥹Discovery of the century
There's a trainer with a Lucario named Rye, who you have to battle as part of a quest. Pretty sure he's supposed to be Riley from diamond and pearls ancestor, has the same hair and everything.
Yep they are in fact relatives
Yeah fr, he also talks about aura and says that you have also done aura.
Yeah. I was disappointed when after you beat his ass he doesn't give you a riolu egg :(
Another ancestor is the sorcerer named Sir Arron in the movie Lucario and the mystery of Mew wore similar clothing and all even had a lucario!!! Ash even accidentally summoned Lucario from the Staff owned by Sir Arron.. in sword and Shield ash was chosen by an egg 🥚 that hatched into a Riolu!!! Could Ash Ketchum be Blood related???
The fact that Wally descended from a line of fucking ninjas is crazy
Wally, in the Pokémon manga, have a Ninja phase
@@WuilliamA that makes him much more lovable than he already was imo
Isn’t it hinted Wally dies after ORAS?
I mean the flowers at his last fight are named after final goodbyes or death
Gen 10, wally gym leader, badass fighting type ninja, gallade ace, MAKE IT HAPPEN GAMEFREAK
I mean Cynthia's grandmother is the lorekeeper in Gen 4... which Cogita serves the same purpose. I don't see why she couldn't be say, the grandmother of Volo.
I just straight up thought she was volos gramdma
Or his wife
@@edra2005 she is way too old lol. And in the game it was implied that cogita raise volo
Actually yeah now that I think about it why didn't I assume that too as well lmao
@@ramaroy2408 That make sense, also the hidden notes seems to imply that Cogita is immortal. Her being Cynthia “grandmother” is something that wouldn’t surprise me.
"They sent her back since she gave Sinnoh permanent Trauma 💀"
The ancient poem is implied to be written by Cogita. And the poem talked about the aiding the ancient hero and losing friends to the passage of time. So Cogita might be immortal and ancestor of Volo and Cynthia
They're both incredibly old
I thought the most popular theory was that Volo is a farther ancestor of BOTH Cynthia and Cogito. Since the way he dresses for the final battle and the way he talked sometimes made him seem like he traveled FORWARD in time, unlike the player who gets sent back in time.
Yooo i just commented nearly the same thing before reading this comment. Same brain cell!!
@@charnalk5572 celetican or celestial?
Nah he just spent a little too much time alone with his history books. He reminds me of those guys who get weirdly nationalist for a past version of their nation. The type who think everything would be fixed if they had an absolute monarchy again or Prussia still existed or whatever.
I was thinking maybe more like Volo is from the future. Kinda like it's implied Sabi is from the future (similar to how Ingo was send from the present to the past, Volo seeks out going to the past from the future, and Sabi ends up in the past similarly to how Ingo does, but is from the future instead of from the present.)
@@longbeing Yeah, I think so too. After all, HE was the one who caused the tome rift to begin with. How would he have traveled into the time where he had caused it to begin with before causing it
God I hate time travel xD Its always so complicated
Never forget ingo. Teleported away from his train homie to the past
Nah not homie literal brother
@@garrettlewis8450 both
Yeah but Ingo doesn’t have a descendant in the series, Ingo here and Ingo in previous gens are just the same dude displaced in time
@@toonacyedits8521but at least it’s canon
If he’s not in the Indigo Disk I’m gonna be super mad
“Let’s skip the simple ones” Proceeds to go over all the simple ones.
He meant that he'd just say them without explanation
I like how us Pokémon fans talk about a game before it comes out like “noooo you can’t make the trees look slightly bad,” and then when the game comes out we’re like “you see, he’s his ancestor because they share the sitting gene”
I keep seeing that example but Ginter has Volkner's exact face
i thought that Cogita Married Volo. I mean Cynthia got face from Cogita and yellow hair from Volo.
Yeah that’s a good one too actually, I hope we learn more about her cause I find her to be the most interesting character in the game
Wdym Volo already has the same face as here and cogita and volo look way too similar not to be related
In the words of prozd: "oh they fockin"
@@Slymation Maybe they married.
We see so much more of Cynthia’s family than any other character lmao
When Beni removed his headwear, he has Wally’s exact hair
But being a chef makes it look like cilan
@@hellhound01 while that is a massive stretch, who’s to say Wally and Cilan aren’t related?
@@jorgelazaro6833 Me
When does he remove his headwear?
@@michaelklassen777When you fight him at Mount Coronet
Sabi being the shared ancestor of Cheryl and Hapu is pretty interesting
Another theory I saw is that Volo is actually Cogita's ancestor sent to the "future" to Hisui. Some hints are how he's the only one that know of Giratina and Arceus, and his original clothing being a lot more "ancient" looking.
Plot twist: Cogita is Cynthia’s Ancestor while Volo is actually Lusamine’s.
Makes sense
Ah surely
What would make more sense is Volo is a cousin or nephew to cogita while also being Lusamine’s ancestor.
That means lusamine and Cynthia are distant relatives
That would explain the obsessive personalities for both Volo and Lusamine. Beings from other dimensions (giratina/maybe arceus, and the ultra beasts respectively).
Dialga: *The literal god of time*
Theorists: We don’t know what being could’ve sent Cynthia back in time
I mean, it was Arceus who sent back the player. And Celebi temporarily sent back the player of HG/SS to see the Giovanni say bye to Silver and battle him.
I mean, Arceus was the one to send the player back, while Ingo's amnesia matches with most Fallers, so he may have arrived via Ultra Wormhole.
Better question is 'why'.
@@Missingno_Miner ingo fell from the rift in the sky, I very clearly remember them stating that and comparing it to how you fell from the rift as well, he likely wasn’t sent by arceus tho and was rather caught in a random distortion because we supposedly keep our memories while he didnt
@@connortg5 No, the player fell from the rift, and they're specifically differentiated from Ingo in that respect. When he first shows up, he refers to the player as the person who came from the sky, and the game continues with this, explictly stating, several times, that Ingo did not fall from the sky, but rather just appeared. Ingo himself states that he was "still standing in bafflement" when the Pearl Clan found him, showing he arrived standing up rather than dropping from somewhere, and he tells Volo he has "no cause" to believe the rift had anything to do with his arrival in Hisui or the loss of his memory.
One that you missed was Karen for that one side quest about the lady too scared too sleep because of a pikachu
I'm yet to see someone talking about Taohua being Director Clavel's relative. A pretty cool Easter Egg placed to tease their next game
That would mean Clavell and Charon are related and that's hilarious
I always assumed Cogita and Volo came from a long gone tribe of ancestors that all looked like Cynthia
Ahh yes the Cynthia tribe they worshipped pianos hence their theme song.
Well it seems both are the only one left from the Sinnoh People bloodline, so that is possible.
That's what I figured too
@@lAlwaysHopelThe game seems to imply that the others fled to Sinjoh. Also, there had to be others around to be Volo's parents
Also, because of beni's battle just before the legendary encounter, we now know that wally is from a line of ninjas.
See the ninja stuff is why I thought he was related to Aaron in some way? Maybe he’s also a distant relative of Wally..
@@gabi4845 that's the impression I got too.
I thought maybe he could also be the ancestor of the Shadow Triad from Gen 5. His battle animation where he does a flip looks very similar to the battle animation given to the shadow triad when fought it B2W2.
@@gabi4845holy shit i never noticed how similar they looked until now
Volo is cogita's ancestor since he was from the distant past
Volo was a Giritina worshipper and the lead worshipper as well!!!
Obviously, the most logical explanation is that Cogita saw how ✨extra✨Volo was, and immediately thought “I can fix him”
They’re definitely just related. I assume Volo is either the “black sheep” of the family or they’re from different sides of the family who don’t get along well.
I always assumed volo was related to cogita, like a son, grandson or nephew, since he says that he has the blood of the ancient sinnoh people, of which cogita is the last "pure blooded" and the old verses imply that she has lived for hundreds of years (plus the fact that she allows you to have enamorus, her partner pokemon, knowing that once you die of old age, enamorus will return to her side)
That makes me wonder if she becomes Cynthia in the future, cause if she’s basically immortal what’s to say she didn’t change her identity to fit better in modern times.
That would be so cool and I like this
Too bad for her enamorous was sent to the far future.
Enamorous traveling through space and time (some dumbass transfered them into a new game) (im the dumbass)
Cogita is just helping us stop her obsessive nephew no worries
I like how most good modern characters have bad past counterparts and vice versa
The gang of thieves are the ancestors of Saturn, Candace, and Bertha
Charm’s an ancestor of Bertha and Agatha
Clover’s an ancestor of Candice
Coin’s an ancestor of Saturn
Who's Candice?
@@fruitgummy2461 Candice dick fit in yo mouth
But I’m all seriousness She’s the Seventh gym leader in the Sinnoh games
Who's Candice (chain plss)
@@0_lunarmoth_0 Deez-
Personally, I think Cogita and Volo are the other way around: Cogita is Cynthia’s ancestor from this time, while Volo is from another time. I’ve heard the theory that Volo, given his Greek-inspired clothes, is actually Cynthia’s ancestor from further in the past (like, from Antiquity). This also aligns with their mannerisms: Cogita is suspicious of Volo, specifically claiming that he acts differently from other people in Hisui, which would be weird to do if you yourself were trying to hide that you didn’t belong in this time period.
Also Volo is a worshipper of Giratina, who's been erased from history at the time of Hisui. AKA Volo was around before Giratina was forgotten and was the one who previously broke through time and space, causing The Darkest Day when he jumped forward with Giratina to escape prosecution by Arceus, Dialga, and Palkia.
But then the question is, what Pokémon sent him forwards in time? Why would Dialga, Arceus or Celebi want to send him back given his intentions?
I would like that idea, but he does express being angered at the fact that you get to be more of a chosen one than him by falling from the sky, and doesn't seem to have a cool origin story to bring up in comparison besides simply being a Hisui era traveller with a bit too much knowledge. I think that maybe he has that outfit as a historic re-enactment he made maybe, since he is kind of fanatical about pleasing arceus and that may have been a historic era where people were more connected (right down to his silly hairstyle to try mimic them)
@@chaosstripe9446Darkest Day had nothing to do with Giratina
This actually could explain why he knows more about the creation trio than the clans who are litteraly worshiping them
Adaman has a descendant called perrin.
One that I haven’t seen mentioned is that Arezu is basically Mars from Team Galactic.
It's even funnier for me, cause the french version of the game went ahead and legit called her "Marcia" (pronounced like 'Mars+Sia')
Another thing that linked Beni and Wally is that Beni mentioned that he wanted to go somewhere with a Warmer Climate. For example: Hoenn
We need a legends game for Unova just inagine seeing Zekrom, Reshiram and Kyurem still fused together and then the final battle is them and once you beat it they get split
Id love to go back to unova like this
It would help explain the disappearance of Blair/Hilbert/Emile and Whitlea/Hilda from Pokémon Black 2 and White 2
hi
@@momorose3211 yeah, they could be the character sent back in time by a higher power
Pokemon Legends: Kyurem
I'm pretty sure they were toying around with veterans hinting Volo was Cynthia's ancestor until they introduced Cognita. They are both her ancestors, and she inherited Volo's thirst for strength and Cognita's curiosity over myths and legends. It is truly a nice way to make 2 characters out of one
The hair stylist looks like Mars
imagine having more than one ancestor. Couldn't be me
Agametic gang rise up!
When a character is so loved by not only the company but the fan base as well that she gets two past representations.
One is the intimidating trainer you have to face at the end, the other is the really helpful, insightful, yet mysterious character.
Both Cynthia, love it.
Aint no way Volo isnt Cynthia's ancestor with that connection to Giratina & the big dramatic ass piano flaring up at the beginning of his battle
Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn meeting their ancestors has so much comedy potential! 😂
Mars: “She look just like me…”
Coin: “He looks just like me…”
Jupiter: “Hey, what about me…?”
I just assumed Cogita was related to Volo, like a great aunt or cousin twice removed
That's what I thought too lmao they were both pretty mysterious and felt like they had a history
Atleast someone has some braincells💀💀.......
I thought that as well. Like Cogita is his grandma's sister or something, but treats him like the child who asks too many questions. Maybe she even raised him.
She seems like a relative who would invite herself to Cynthia's family reunions and no one knows exactly how she's related but she's obviously related somehow in resemblance and very polite so she can stay.
Volo would be the relative that they do know, but is on thin ice to being kicked out if he goes on about his arceus conspiracy one more time
This makes way more sense honestly. However, when I played PLA again, I somehow noticed how Cogita's dialogue makes her seem like someone coming from the future. It's a bit of a stretch I know but that's what I noticed.
"Let's skip the obvious ones"
Proceeds to put dawn
What
@@aqilshadow5451 Dawn's ancestor was obvious to know
@@metagross6897 You worded it like it was hard to know
The old verses from pokemon legends arceus and the dialogues in the game imply that Cogita (and Volo) are both humans that were blessed/cursed by Arceus and became inmortals.
Also, due to Volo's craziness, his use of pokemon from a different dimension and his blonde hair I'd argue that Volo may be Lusamine's ancestor and with Cogita being Cynthia's ancestor.
Immortality being indirectly present in Lusamine's genes would explain why she looks so young despite being over 40 years old.
There's no such implication with Volo though.
@@BJGvideos
“Once there were two. And one looked upon time’s steady pace. And one looked upon the expanse of space. And the two set out: the fullness of future did they seek, the world’s far end would they greet. Two different paths- each walking alone a path their own, though they walk with almighty Sinnoh.”
"Lets skip the obvious ones"
*starts with Akari and Dawn*
i love how nobody has even considered the possibility of having two relatives
I did I ship Volo and Cogita
... I think the more obvious and intended conclusion is that Cynthia has two ancestors in this game
The nurse in the main building looks like a mix between that psychic girl with the spoon hair and nurse joy
Reverse flash: "IT WAS ME BARRY. I SENT CYNTHIA BACK IN TIME JUST BEFORE YOU COULD CHALLENGE HER. SO YOU CAN NEVER HAVE THE SATISFACTION OF BEATING HER"
I fully believe that the guy from the Electrode trial is an ancestor of James.
oddly enough, all the theories of I've heard for who melli is related to, no one went to James, which honestly seems most accurate out of all of them. The only question being whether or not the games and anime exist in the same universe.
This, 1000%
@@agent8370 We don't need to ask that question since we have multiple games with James in them.
IMO, it’s Penny from SV.
A lot of the known ancestors in PLA have vastly different personalities to their modern counterparts, and beyond that often share physical features. Melli shares similar facial features and has a similar hair colour to Penny (ignoring the obvious Red part that Penny likely dyed).
Always thought Toa Hua is Wikstroms ancestor, same eyebrows and mouth shape. And pretty sure Tsumugi, the guard that stands by the item storage box in Jubilife, is Jupiter’s ancestor
I can confirm that i got thrown into Hisui and changed my outfit by thoughts of someone recognizing me and everyone in the entire region would ask for their photographs. Life of a champion is hard guys.
Good thing genetics dont exist yet, but do you and volo have a relationship at all, or does he even know you?
@@pg13snipez He knows me but we're not in a relationship.
Cogita and Volo are probably Cynthia's like 10xgreat grandparents
Imagine being dawn and you somehow found out the neighbor you live next too is your ancient ancestor the day before she gets kidnapped by arceus💀
“Are there any I missed” me being like there’s dozens😂
I would think it was just Cynthia has both Cogita and Volo for ancestors
The music in the video hooked me in one second. Man, this is the best pokémon game ever
Volo, Cogita, and Cynthia are the biggest mysteries in the game.
Clearly, they're both Cynthia's ancestors
No. People can only have 1 ancestor. Obviously Volo will eventually split into 2 slightly different versions of himself via mitosis and Cogita will be revealed to be a time-traveling Ditto that saw Cynthia and decided to impersonate her in the distant past 😂
This game also proves that Agatha and Bertha are related lol
Come on, guys. We all know Cogita and Volo are banging.
As if someone couldn't have two ancestors living at the same time. That's how that work.
Also Cynthia was chasing you down through out time to battle you. *Cynthia's theme intensifies*
The farmer guy who harvests stuff for you if you ask him too has the same haircut as Gardenia, so they might be related
GILF CYNTHIA LETS GOOOOOOO
I feel like Benny is the ancestor of Cilan, and his brothers by association, because of his green hair and his association with food.
Volo is a time traveler from the past rather than the future. This is why, although volo and cogita are related, neither characters know this.
Well actually Volo talks about waiting centuries to meet Arceus, so it’s obvious that there’s some time paradox shenanigans happening with him. So I’d say that Cogita is Cynthia’s distant relative from this era, then Volo is maybe her distant relative traveled from the past.
Edit: that could also be why there’s never any mention of a family relationship between the two. She would likely not know who Volo is with him being a distant relative traveled from the past, and he likely wouldn’t want to tell her out of fear that it may out his plan.
I thought the dialogue was that he'd see Arceus even if it takes centuries
He also may have access to the Distortion World, or simply know how Cogita got so long lived (she's implied to be the one who wrote the Old Verses)
Cogita wrote the Old Verses, she's just as old as Volo
Theres no way, dog you have to have 2 ancestors per layer of a family tree, we gunna neglect the idea that those 2 are gunna make Cynthia’s family line
My theory is that Cogita is Cynthia’s current ancestor, and Volo is Cynthia’s ancestor from even longer time ago than PLA. It is hinted at in Volo’s dialogue during the final fight
A video that doesn't end in a loop. Thanks Arceus.
I think one that doesnt get talked about enough is how Irida the pearl clan leader looks like she's related to Serena from X and Y
Same
Irida? Dude thats May from Ruby and Sapphire.
@@Pockets4507 I think she might be both their ancestors they do look similar
The easier, but also just as much theory, answer to Cogita and Volo is that they're both ancestors of Cynthia.
Meaning that, even if they don't marry, or anything like that. It's the same way that you probably know two ancestors from a few hundred years ago, even if you don't by name, who have nothing to do with one another but you could pinpoint them within a few square miles of one another.
I think Cogita actually implies that despite the resemblance, Cynthia might not be directly related to either Cogita or Volo. The three actually all resemble the lake trio, with Cynthia being mesprit, Cogita Uxie, and Volo finally with Azelf.
cognita being the anscestor of cynthia makes a lot of sense she is a library of knowledge and cynthia is a seeker of knowledge as wants to know everything
Y’all be acting like people can’t have multiple ancestors alive at the same time.
I just think they wanted Cynthia's ancestor to be the final trainer boss like she is in the diamond and pearl games but in the story it worked out as that also making Volo the villain, which was incredibly well written don't get me wrong, but Cogita is there to be more of a one to one with Cynthia personality wise which is shown nicely through her design. I think they decided to give her two ancestors not because of any paradoxes or hidden story, but because that's what worked best for such an important and well loved character. Cynthia's ancestor had to be important to the game and its story but also still be like Cynthia, so to counter balance Cynthia not being completely nuts like Volo is, the older ancestor Cogita who shares a lot of the calmer and graceful attributes with Cynthia was sort of needed, and it works quite nicely with her being a keeper of old legends and stories, really shows where Cynthia got her affinity and love for it. Volo does aswell, to a much more obsessive extent, but its clear that he got it from Cogita who he's probably related to.
Cogita is Volo’s grandmother in my book.
She was definitely not happy when she found out about what he did.
Let’s just say Volo’s ears never recovered.
All 3 of the cynthia are a trio because their names are emotion knowledge and willpower.
Cynthia talks about feelings in dp, Volvo is willpower to fight and make something of himself, Cogia is knowledgeable.
Na they smashed. And I'm not talking about Pokemon battles. 🙌
Volo used Rock Smash!
It's super effective!
One thing I want to point out is that Zisu has the same starting battle animation as Hop.
Great, now I'm not gonna be able to unsee that.
Zizu x Laventon?
I like to believe that Volo is actually Cynthia's Descendant sent back in time like ingo and ever since he was obsessed with arceus. And he just disappeared after. And masters shows that pokemon really like Volo so you never know what they're cooking
Volo and Cogita are actually from the same bloodline, so it would mean that Cogita is also an ancestor to Cynthia. With the Diamond and Pearl Clans colonizing the Celestica bloodline in the past, Cogita and Volo are the last of them.
Cogita and Volo are definitely family so that means Cogita is also an ancestor to Cynthia.
Bingo! Also add in the hidden notes which implies that Cogita is immortal. She already knew the player purpose and knew her duties to fulfill, she already had witnessed a similar event before. If anything Volo is a descendant of Cogita.
Volo and Cogita could be related in some way. Volo could be the abandoned son of Cogita
If you talk to Beni after you finish the game he says Hisui is too cold for him and he's looking to settle somewhere warmer
Or y'know... Volo and Cogita got together, the family strived for generations, and then Cynthia just looks like her super ancient grandparents combined.
i think volo is from a time before cogita, being *her* ancestor, but travelling *forward* in time while he was young to meet her when she was older.
this is why we need a dlc for pla 🙃
Pokémon Legends: Victini
"Skip the obvious one" Only singled out Lucas
Know that in every modern day sneasel's gene pool, there is a little bit of Ingo.
I actually like the idea of Volo being Lusamine relative as you look more into his personality and choices of clothes it alot like Lusamine and Cogita being more like Cynthia. So maybe Volo leaves for Alola? We don't ever see him again so that could be that Volo is Lusamine ancestor and Cogita is Cynthia Ancestor.
I mean, Considering some people is Arceus are ancestraux to unova characters, it's not that wild to imagine one of them reaching Alola
I always thought cogita was apart of volo's family somehow. Perhaps volo being a false ancestor of sorts, with cynthia actually being cogita's direct descendant. Idk though, i didnt really think about it
Cogita is really rocking the black in such a colorfull game
I always took it to mean Cogita and Volo hooked up after the game ends
I think Lavender is Jacq's ancestor, they look pretty similar. ALSO, Jacq in one point of the gane says that in his times the Pokedex was written with hand and feather and it was only a simple notebook. They are both professors and wear glasses and a purple tunic. Coincidence?
I think it was already theorized for Laventon to be Leon and Hop's ancestor. Cause the Indian background that can be associated with the characters. And Laventon having the Raichu Indian elephant entry retconned to Copperajah from his homeland. Since Copperajah is from an Indian inspired region.
It was actually Clavell that mentioned filling out the dex with pen & paper, not Jacq. I’ve actually seen connections made to Laventon being Hop & Leon’s ancestor while Jacq is a descendant of Adaman (though the ladder is very loose)
@@AznYunHouAren't Leon and Hop black rather than Indian? Not that there aren't black Indians of course but you know how this game goes.
Volo is from even further back in time based on his outfit. He hangs around Cogita because he is Her ancestor and Cogita is Cynthia's. At least that's my theory.
Volo wears his outfit because he is a merchant
@@DrJazzyBonespHd he is dressed like Arceus
I love how the fandom agrees that Volo is a low class Cynthia
Don’t forget the Aura Guardian character and the Gardner guy who asks for Pokémon to help them make veggies
My theory is volo was sent to the future a while ago, so he's actually from the pokemon version of greek mythology and sent to hisui, so while cogita is the "modern ancestor" of Cynthia, Volo essentially is cogita's ancestor too. The whole thing about sinnoh blood and volo not having it is this sinnoh blood happened after his time (greece) when one of volo's descendants got with someone that began the bloodline
Okay, maybe I'm nuts but Volo being an ancestor of Cynthia was not immediately obvious to me. I saw the name and the color of the hair and was like "guess that's Volkner?" and didn't think about it again. Man was I surprised when he stomped my ass with Cynthia's team!
Edit: I think both Cogita and Volo are Cynthia's ancestors. In her bloodline's past there were powerful and fascinating people. It makes sense she'd obsess over history and wanting to know more-real life people do the same with genealogy.
The person at the fields in jubulife village that you talk to for harvests has Gardenia's hair.
Him: "Let's skip the obvious ones"
Also him: *Akari and dawn*
Well, they could both be related to her. Both just have to have kids separately and then those kids could get together which could lead to Cynthia. It’s in the past so there’s gotta be a few more generations between Cynthia and the two.
Or alternatively, they just get together themselves. Not impossible.