How an Unstoppable 200-Year-Old Robot Fooled the World

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  • @duchi882
    @duchi882 Před 3 lety +9686

    *Chess back then:* This machine is too smart, a human mind must be controlling it
    *Chess now:* This human is too smart, he must be using a Chess Engine

    • @mnomadvfx
      @mnomadvfx Před 3 lety +324

      That pretty much describes the future path of AI - integrating it into humans as Intelligence Amplification.

    • @funnyguy101ize
      @funnyguy101ize Před 3 lety +57

      Technology is crazy

    • @club6525
      @club6525 Před 3 lety +77

      @@zane13232 Encouraging people to visit your channel is considered self-promo.

    • @lmaobox4068
      @lmaobox4068 Před 3 lety +48

      "Hax n00b lol needs chess b0t 2 win gg no re" - Timmy aged 9 vs world chess champion

    • @sombertownds149
      @sombertownds149 Před 3 lety +13

      .... i got a online chess game ad.....

  • @Y4manata
    @Y4manata Před 3 lety +4141

    Man this story has the biggest character crossover I've ever seen

    • @juliuscaesar1062
      @juliuscaesar1062 Před 3 lety +192

      I was thinking the same thing, first time so many giants experienced the same thing

    • @victor_silva6142
      @victor_silva6142 Před 3 lety +14

      Aye.

    • @monke6912
      @monke6912 Před 3 lety +53

      And biggest simp of the centuryies

    • @oumardiop1
      @oumardiop1 Před 3 lety +162

      beethoven, edgar allen poe, been franklin, napolean bonnaparte, another guy named ludwig, this is bigger than endgame

    • @appletunisheccincute6253
      @appletunisheccincute6253 Před 3 lety +28

      Is... is this a crossover episode?

  • @sumvs5992
    @sumvs5992 Před 3 lety +532

    Imagine making a wrong move and then you hear a mumbled
    "Wow what an idiot!"

    • @Mustis91
      @Mustis91 Před 2 lety +43

      Napoleon sneezes
      "oh dear..bless you..i..i mean check!"

    • @kristofladanyi3671
      @kristofladanyi3671 Před rokem +13

      "THERE IS A HALFLING INSIDE!" - average d&d player

  • @Nanocon1
    @Nanocon1 Před 3 lety +563

    I dont care if it was a lie, the engineering that must have gone into it to allow the Turk to shadow the person controlling it and move the pieces with precision across the board must have been incredible.

    • @dirckthedork-knight1201
      @dirckthedork-knight1201 Před rokem +39

      Yes as well as the way it was designed to specifically fool people that would inspect it there was a lot of thinking involved when this thing was made

    • @campickett4293
      @campickett4293 Před rokem +37

      Not to mention it literally inspired the creator of the first computer this is lowkey one of the most important things in human history

    • @isaacdayton4962
      @isaacdayton4962 Před rokem +1

      I do think it would have been possible to create a automated chess machine that almost always won even back then. Off course it would be absolutely huge and entirely analog. Although I doubt anyone would have had the time, resources and knowledge needed to create something like this.

    • @tokugeeky2931
      @tokugeeky2931 Před rokem

      Agreed.

    • @logothaironsides2942
      @logothaironsides2942 Před rokem +1

      That's what I think too. The player must have been fantastic and terrified and that isn't a good combination for winning. Imagine if someone like Napoleon had decided to shove a sword through the bottom or some such thing.

  • @elliottcarson1248
    @elliottcarson1248 Před 3 lety +3533

    Napoleon and Benjamin Franklin both died fully believing in A.I. Think about that for a moment.

    • @donkeyslayer4661
      @donkeyslayer4661 Před 3 lety +16

      Why?

    • @elliottcarson1248
      @elliottcarson1248 Před 3 lety +67

      @Daniel McCoy it's a rhetorical statement 😂

    • @albertcoorey5346
      @albertcoorey5346 Před 3 lety +12

      Elliott Carson I think it was a joke

    • @kevinloving3141
      @kevinloving3141 Před 3 lety +91

      What if research into robotics had started as early as the middle of the 18th century,
      by the 19th century chattle slavery could have been abolished and thus no American civil war.

    • @proman4592
      @proman4592 Před 3 lety +2

      @Daniel McCoy robot

  • @cheez-itman2784
    @cheez-itman2784 Před 3 lety +7004

    Can you imagine how terrifying it would be to be the guy playing inside the machine and hearing NAPOLeON BONAPARTE challenge you?

    • @peris_arts_film9699
      @peris_arts_film9699 Před 3 lety +652

      sweats tactically

    • @SArtisto1
      @SArtisto1 Před 3 lety +1009

      And then have the guts to smack his pieces off the chest board lmao

    • @owogamingchannel850
      @owogamingchannel850 Před 3 lety +216

      Yes nepolian bonaparte

    • @Burn_Angel
      @Burn_Angel Před 3 lety +243

      @@owogamingchannel850 Emperor of Fronze.

    • @Lenn869
      @Lenn869 Před 3 lety +76

      @@owogamingchannel850 just like Egdar Alan Poe

  • @kyamaldinihill
    @kyamaldinihill Před rokem +134

    The amount of historical figure name dropping in this entire story is so amazing to me hahaha

    • @lexigrimhaive
      @lexigrimhaive Před rokem +5

      Right?! Maria Theresa of Austria, Paul of Russia, Napoleon Bonaparte, Benjamin Franklin, Edgar Allan Poe…!!

    • @kyamaldinihill
      @kyamaldinihill Před rokem +1

      @@lexigrimhaive It's so wild!

    • @patrickbateman1067
      @patrickbateman1067 Před rokem +1

      This just shows that almost all great people if the past were fans of chess.

  • @SR-hj6sh
    @SR-hj6sh Před 3 lety +239

    Because his voice is soothing, I decided to use Thoughty2's video to fall asleep. But the kind of characters that appeared in this video made me doubt whether I was trying to fall asleep or was already asleep

    • @proto-geek248
      @proto-geek248 Před 3 lety

      I use MST3K 😴

    • @iggy3579
      @iggy3579 Před 2 lety +1

      i wake up knowing so much more lmao!

    • @jackdurden466
      @jackdurden466 Před 2 lety +3

      That’s pretty damn cool! So you have discovered how to learn while you sleep, kinda like Dr Strange did.

    • @bt1089
      @bt1089 Před 3 měsíci

      Dude same

  • @Bluecheese2142
    @Bluecheese2142 Před 3 lety +3428

    Edgar Allan Poe really was like "I've never seen you and the Turk in the same place at the same time" and the guy just starts sweating.

    • @mezzops1716
      @mezzops1716 Před 3 lety +152

      Among us games in a nutshell

    • @YahNation
      @YahNation Před 3 lety +53

      I see you are an unus

    • @Bluecheese2142
      @Bluecheese2142 Před 3 lety +52

      @@YahNation And I see you are an Annus.

    • @Cesar.Flowers
      @Cesar.Flowers Před 3 lety +7

      Yes

    • @YahNation
      @YahNation Před 3 lety +4

      Hey guys I got rid of the spiral cuz they bouta delete the channel and I got my own grind going on! please help a fellow iplier out and check out my music! If you decide you like it consider subscribing! thankyou!

  • @noflare1714
    @noflare1714 Před 3 lety +3389

    Gideon Mwaura is such a doubting Thomas🤦

    • @shrigmian
      @shrigmian Před 3 lety +100

      That has 250 years of history, most likely you only have 15

    • @TheGauges420
      @TheGauges420 Před 3 lety +48

      @@shrigmian well even over the average of 75 we still wont be even 1/4 as interesting. Although I'm already at 30 and feel the same way so.

    • @lucasbiermann257
      @lucasbiermann257 Před 3 lety +29

      @@TheGauges420 being interesting has nothing to do with how long you live unless that is the interesting part. it has to do with what you do. most people have an uninteresting life with few good moments but alas none are interesting enough to be recorded in history. that "box" fooled a lot of important people for decades as being one of a kind and in the end it truly became one.

    • @zk0rned
      @zk0rned Před 3 lety +11

      @@lucasbiermann257 living for centuries definitely helps my guy

    • @glidershower
      @glidershower Před 3 lety +15

      Anything capable of trolling Napoleon Bonaparte _and have him be happily amused about it_ surely has a history more compelling than 98% of us in YT.
      I don't feel inadequate. The odds were stacked against me from the start, lolz.

  • @Dreadjaws
    @Dreadjaws Před 2 lety +39

    What an utterly fascinating story. It's the sort of thing you'd see in a Hollywood adaptation and complain about all the liberties taken. _"Come on, Bonaparte, Franklin AND Poe? Get out of here with your fanfiction!"_ Reality can most definitely be stranger than fiction.

    • @seandavidslipp1821
      @seandavidslipp1821 Před rokem

      Damn Jaws over there has got it a true kind Wise soul

    • @TedwardsTube
      @TedwardsTube Před rokem +3

      I immediately thought, there must have been several film adaptations of this story, historical dramas, or something. But I can’t find any. I’m confused. This really could be made into a fascinating movie. I thought the same thing when I saw a CZcams documentary about the serial killer H.H.Holmes - Tim Burton / Johnny Depp haven’t done this yet?!?

  • @yoskull9295
    @yoskull9295 Před 3 lety +98

    Just in case u are wondering, the robot in the thumbnail is from a film called Hugo, it’s about this kid who builds a robot in a train station.

    • @braelinmichelus
      @braelinmichelus Před 2 lety

      Which was based on the original book "The Invention of Hugo Cabret" by Brian Selznick.
      The book is _far, far_ better the movie, you really should read it.

    • @eatonkuntz
      @eatonkuntz Před 2 lety +2

      @@braelinmichelus which in turn, is oddly similar to Alita Battle Angel

    • @kietro8319
      @kietro8319 Před 2 lety +2

      @@eatonkuntz Which in turn was based on Battle Angel Alita (a.k.a., Gunnm)

    • @Bambisgf77
      @Bambisgf77 Před 6 měsíci

      Thank you!! 🎉

  • @pinochet3317
    @pinochet3317 Před 3 lety +5732

    “How an unstoppable 200 year old robot fooled the world”
    *You mean Queen Elizabeth II?*

  • @Fadastalk
    @Fadastalk Před 3 lety +6111

    Ok sure it was a hoax, but even the mechanics of moving the pieces from inside the box is still pretty smart for 1770.

    • @fredjaneson1670
      @fredjaneson1670 Před 3 lety +118

      I agree

    • @MartinFinnerup
      @MartinFinnerup Před 3 lety +33

      Agreed.

    • @TobyIKanoby
      @TobyIKanoby Před 3 lety +116

      Not really. The pantograph was invented long before this. Magic tricks were nothing new either.

    • @TobyIKanoby
      @TobyIKanoby Před 3 lety +236

      @Bunny Yeah people tend to underestimate our ancestors' capabilities and ingenuity, the whole "ancient aliens" thing was based on that tendency (apart from a huge lack of scientific knowledge of course).

    • @roguetune03
      @roguetune03 Před 3 lety +54

      I was thinking the same thing! When the explanation of how the chess player inside both saw the moves made on the exterior board.. and then could move his own pieces at will from within the cabinet I was grinding trying to figure out how a series of magnets could be assembled to make it work, and work so reliably. Incredible all by itself!

  • @kingscrusher
    @kingscrusher Před 3 lety +468

    Great video - got a lot more insights about this story that i did not know before including the link with Sherlock Holmes. Thanks very much. Cheers, K

  • @Stardust_7273
    @Stardust_7273 Před 2 lety +74

    It may have been an illusion that the Mechanical Turk possessed any true AI, but the engineering required to build such an automaton is truly impressive.

  • @MiracleSword
    @MiracleSword Před 3 lety +1254

    I’ve always found this hoax delightful just for how well it was pulled off, how long it lasted, and how many notable historical figures were involved.

    • @hrishiraj2899
      @hrishiraj2899 Před 2 lety +25

      The fact that it inspired the invention of the very device we are using right now is so astounding

  • @HSpartaL
    @HSpartaL Před 3 lety +1805

    Even without the man inside, the turk would still beat me at chess

    • @ethantoft4453
      @ethantoft4453 Před 3 lety +25

      How was this 2 hours ago for me it says the vid was released 14mins ago

    • @tortistortis
      @tortistortis Před 3 lety +44

      Ethan Toft he joined the channel and one of the perks is early access to videos

    • @shivshetty3045
      @shivshetty3045 Před 3 lety +2

      @@tortistortis it cld also just be a glitch. Ive seen a comment say 2 days old and the vid said 10 mins ago

    • @lucasbiermann257
      @lucasbiermann257 Před 3 lety +4

      to be honest most humans would lose at chess if they had a man inside them.

    • @asenelezulu7602
      @asenelezulu7602 Před 3 lety

      Same😂

  • @themagicalgamer6522
    @themagicalgamer6522 Před 3 lety +45

    17:35 "With the automaton destroyed, Mitchell's son: Silas-"
    CZcams automated captions: *Silly ass*

  • @zeeshanhazari
    @zeeshanhazari Před 3 lety +30

    This Story Deserves a Movie for *Real*

  • @boomerix
    @boomerix Před 3 lety +501

    IBM Computer: nervously makes a random move.
    Kasparov: "This utter brilliance could have never been done by a mere machine!"

    • @TheChadPad
      @TheChadPad Před 3 lety +14

      It's amazing. Dumb fucking luck

  • @edgycommunist4213
    @edgycommunist4213 Před 3 lety +3081

    I forget about Thoughty2 for a couple years and he's stalin when I come back lol

  • @alpharius7712
    @alpharius7712 Před 3 lety +15

    I didnt expect they were doing it for money LMAO, if some dude came up to me and was like "Wanna prank Napoleon?" Id say "Do I?!?! IS THE SKY BLUE MY SIR???"

  • @swiftfox3461
    @swiftfox3461 Před 3 lety

    This is one of the best and most comprehensive docs on the Mechanical Turk I've ever seen. Thanks, you did it really well.

  • @Pencil0fDoom
    @Pencil0fDoom Před 3 lety +700

    “His son, Silly-ass...”
    I’m dead.

    • @staretimecomics
      @staretimecomics Před 3 lety +27

      I'm so glad someone else noticed! Cheers!

    • @tongs1073
      @tongs1073 Před 3 lety +6

      timestamp pleaseee

    • @staretimecomics
      @staretimecomics Před 3 lety +14

      @@tongs1073 17:36 Enjoy

    • @ivdarox
      @ivdarox Před 3 lety +6

      @Graham Murphy that video is cheap sensationalism lol

    • @ivdarox
      @ivdarox Před 3 lety +11

      @Graham Murphy this video says something at least. The other one is the whole time hinting a reveal of the way the turk worked, to then just take us to the house of an old dude that is supposedly an eminence in illusions and that knows how it functioned. Just to have him tell us he won't reveal shit. LOL. Not even conjectures, anything. At least this one contains the version of someone related to an owner.

  • @Lava91point0
    @Lava91point0 Před 3 lety +1135

    “And like many depressed men, he turned to drink. He died from alcohol poisoning during the voyage” This man couldn’t even wait to get home, he must have been drinking by the literal bucket load

    • @AngieParty12380
      @AngieParty12380 Před 3 lety +62

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but at that time most people had to drink alchohol (mostly beer) on ships because it was much cleaner than the little "fresh" water they had on board.

    • @lesvernornvienas8232
      @lesvernornvienas8232 Před 3 lety +11

      @@AngieParty12380 wasn’t just ships just pretty much in general it was much safer to drink beer

    • @unsainted2240
      @unsainted2240 Před 3 lety +5

      @Forever Changed Alcohol withdrawal is the worst experience i have ever had in my life. The symptoms literally feel like you're dying, no exaggeration. Landed me in the hospital once, then I worked out the 2nd one on my own

    • @unsainted2240
      @unsainted2240 Před 3 lety +2

      @Forever Changed Same situation, im getting out of the habit slowly, I am still physically and mentally strong but its overtaking my ability to do my duties sober and efficiently.

    • @anaperez5442
      @anaperez5442 Před 3 lety +7

      I was told by a pharmacist who worked at the VA for several years (before going to the private sector) that standard treatment for alcoholics was to slowly diminish the amount of liquor they would consume.
      Because if the patient was cut off completely (going cold turkey) the strain on the patient's organism would be so great it would kill them.

  • @treehouseoflibertymedia9732

    The gift of hindsight being what it is, I figured a human was involved somehow from the start, but what a fascinating story, presented flawlessly by you as always.
    Keep up the great work! You have an uncanny ability to entertain AND inform!!

  • @bubbafug00gle51
    @bubbafug00gle51 Před 3 lety +1

    I knew almost everything in this video and still enjoyed watching... that's the power of great storytelling.

  • @ethanwinters9660
    @ethanwinters9660 Před 3 lety +553

    It's still extremely impressive that the turk would've had enough dexterity for the hidden player to accurately select and move pieces.

    • @justingrey6008
      @justingrey6008 Před 3 lety +43

      Using a pantograph, assuming all the joints were tight, the moves of turk would be identical to his own.
      I am more interested in how it tracked moves. Magnets only go so far and could not track lifted parts

    • @satibel
      @satibel Před 3 lety +14

      @@justingrey6008 you know which piece was moved and to where it was moved, so you can infer the move. (for example you see A2 to A3, you know what to move.)

    • @justingrey6008
      @justingrey6008 Před 3 lety +5

      @@satibel pick up a rook, you have 4 points that piece could land.

    • @satibel
      @satibel Před 3 lety +9

      @@justingrey6008
      (edit)tl;dr: as long as you know the full state of the board before, if you know from where to where a move is made, you know the full state of the board after.
      you'd know exactly where it lands, as you can't pick up multiple pieces at the same time.
      I'd imagine, you see where all the pieces are, and given that you know where they started, you can always know where all the pieces are as the game progresses even if you don't see which pieces are where, just where are all the pieces.
      and you can easily replicate the board, as you see a piece go out, you pick it up, and then when you see it reappear, you put it where it reappeared.

    • @justingrey6008
      @justingrey6008 Před 3 lety

      @@satibel that would imply some sort of visual system on the board. Which could be done with mirrors but mirrors work both ways.
      How would you track pieces so they could be blindly moves and tracked remotely? And to do it before modern (any) electronics.

  • @TheDiego908
    @TheDiego908 Před 3 lety +1723

    "He claims to have been able to hear the automaton's last desperate words above the roaring flames:
    'gg'."

  • @morganholloman6650
    @morganholloman6650 Před 3 lety +21

    Every time you say "Egdar" instead of Edgar i wanna stuff myself into a wooden chess robot

  • @isaiahoconnor8236
    @isaiahoconnor8236 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for this. I knew of this decades ago, but only in passing a single paragraph under a photo, I love the detail !

  • @LoudRevised
    @LoudRevised Před 3 lety +1018

    This machine met to many historical figures you’d swear he was in a time travel information.

    • @TheSayujya
      @TheSayujya Před 3 lety +10

      Lol

    • @readmarx420
      @readmarx420 Před 3 lety +70

      Did you have a stroke whike typing or some ish?

    • @Lee-sd1vx
      @Lee-sd1vx Před 3 lety +19

      uhh am I having a stroke

    • @Canzary
      @Canzary Před 3 lety +22

      This almost made sense
      I kept feeling like I was getting it then I didn’t

    • @LoudRevised
      @LoudRevised Před 3 lety +35

      I’m stupid:
      “This machine met so many historical figures you’d swear he was in a time travel movie.”

  • @yungshabby1547
    @yungshabby1547 Před 3 lety +438

    This robot beat Ben Franklin & Napoleon, inspired computers & Sherlock Holmes

  • @wren_bean
    @wren_bean Před 3 lety +4

    I remember reading about the Turk and other turn of the century automata featured in theatrical magic acts. I always wondered about it, thanks for sharing this lovely bit of history!

  • @LStiglet
    @LStiglet Před 3 lety +1

    This was quite the intriguing historical story. I enjoyed every single minute of it.

  • @Ilikepats
    @Ilikepats Před 3 lety +1803

    Just wait until we find out that Queen Elizabeth is a robot too

  • @morbidmirage726
    @morbidmirage726 Před 3 lety +256

    I love how even though it was a hoax, it was super significant, even inspiring the first computer.

    • @vlaandhael
      @vlaandhael Před 3 lety +3

      I mean Jesus was a bigger hoax and also significant

    • @RetroAP
      @RetroAP Před 2 lety +19

      @@vlaandhael here we go with this shit again

    • @oldarthurmorgan6319
      @oldarthurmorgan6319 Před 2 lety +10

      @@vlaandhael ah shit here we go again

    • @Coreisus
      @Coreisus Před 2 lety +2

      @@vlaandhael get educated

    • @Tekape
      @Tekape Před 2 lety

      that's alwayshow it goes, most of things are inspired by fiction logically

  • @GameUnCrafter
    @GameUnCrafter Před 3 lety +2

    Edgar Allen poe pops up a lot more than I ever thought he would, I always knew of him as just a writer, but he did much more

  • @reynalindstrom2496
    @reynalindstrom2496 Před 3 lety

    This is tthe best historical narrative I have found in CZcams,it was amazing!!! Love from Sweden

  • @aaliyahfitzgerald9756
    @aaliyahfitzgerald9756 Před 3 lety +746

    “All the famous people in history knew each other “

    • @letsbehonest4221
      @letsbehonest4221 Před 3 lety +76

      All the famous people of modern time know each other

    • @mrniceguy4277
      @mrniceguy4277 Před 3 lety +20

      @@letsbehonest4221 we all know all the famous people. But you are right ^^

    • @MyNameJeffOG
      @MyNameJeffOG Před 3 lety +36

      Michael jackson knew Abraham Lincoln

    • @omikron6218
      @omikron6218 Před 3 lety +33

      All the famous people if modern time give plane rides to their private islands :^)

    • @caseh4235
      @caseh4235 Před 3 lety +16

      @@omikron6218 to one specific private island owned by a man that did not kill himself*

  • @olliefoxx7165
    @olliefoxx7165 Před 3 lety +165

    The ability to see what pieces are on the board and to send that to a hidden board is impressive. Also moving pieces in the visible board via mechanical arm is impressive. They were fooling people through the use of very clever engineering.

  • @u12bdragon
    @u12bdragon Před 3 lety +5

    I may be wrong, but the chess playing automaton burning alive may be the inspiration for "The Invention of Hugo Cabret"

  • @brianvincent655
    @brianvincent655 Před 3 lety +1

    Superbly informative and constructed presentation!
    Well done.

  • @tomcatacaphe7814
    @tomcatacaphe7814 Před 3 lety +388

    This entire concept honestly sounds like an SCP.

    • @smolglitch
      @smolglitch Před 3 lety +16

      Ah yes, artificial intelligence must be anomalous. Kill it with fire!

    • @justingrey6008
      @justingrey6008 Před 3 lety +7

      @@smolglitch containment first, I am sure it's in some anomalous artifact storage site with a few D class for company.

    • @theboxoftexas
      @theboxoftexas Před 3 lety +6

      You mean SCP-1875

    • @poggersbutthole8444
      @poggersbutthole8444 Před 3 lety +3

      Slap some evil sentience on it and it will be a full-fledged SCP

    • @theboxoftexas
      @theboxoftexas Před 3 lety +15

      SCP-1875 is a Euclid class object and it was was a chess robot that was built by a Russian chess champion in 1875 but parts of the machine were built by by his then missing twin daughters with the chess pieces being made from their bones and when the SCP Foundation took it back to the foundation the machine would have later take over the wireless connection by corrupting files, changing reports, deleting files, and finally sending a disturbing picture of two twin girls with black hallow eyes

  • @caesertullo1824
    @caesertullo1824 Před 3 lety +402

    I like the title of "french ambassador" better than "American who liked parties and hookers" even though it's like the same thing.

    • @WaterVolt1917
      @WaterVolt1917 Před 3 lety +11

      But he was married though. But your right about the parties only if the're in Boston and involve tea.

    • @caesertullo1824
      @caesertullo1824 Před 3 lety +14

      @@WaterVolt1917 well I mean you know what snuff boxes were right? most of the forefathers were using a bit of nose candy. also come on, those rebellious town hall meetings where they all worked to set up a new never tried before government, and never really tried since, maybe it's cause I'm lame, but I'd fucking call that one hell of a party that I wish I could have partaken in.
      also highly suggest you google image search snuff boxes, god I hope I'm spelling snuff right. those things are gorgeous.
      they really had some serious craftsmen back in the day.

    • @WaterVolt1917
      @WaterVolt1917 Před 3 lety +5

      @@caesertullo1824 I never said he didn't snort some lines I'm just saying I'd be surprised if he were to ever have some fun with hookers. I mean he was a Christian man after all.

    • @WaterVolt1917
      @WaterVolt1917 Před 3 lety +3

      @@dr.floridaman4805 Ever heard of lust?

    • @WaterVolt1917
      @WaterVolt1917 Před 3 lety +2

      If that's really the case then why does it allow hookers? Seems a little sus.

  • @valmarsiglia
    @valmarsiglia Před 2 lety

    Glad I discovered your channel. Lots of very interesting stories told in a very engaging manner.

  • @secabrepheox5450
    @secabrepheox5450 Před 3 lety +16

    Thats actually impressive. Would be nice if someone could make a replicate of it.

    • @DanaPAH
      @DanaPAH Před rokem +1

      Someone did. 21:34

  • @kermidiu4390
    @kermidiu4390 Před 3 lety +326

    "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."

    • @ShinSeikiEvan
      @ShinSeikiEvan Před 3 lety +2

      Huh. I wonder if the Turk was the inspiration for The Wizard.

    • @kermidiu4390
      @kermidiu4390 Před 3 lety

      @@ShinSeikiEvan I wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibility. The answer is probably on the internet somewhere.

  • @cretucristian7935
    @cretucristian7935 Před 3 lety +248

    Very interesting story. One correction: Maria Tereza was, if I remember correctly, empress of Austria and queen of Hungary and Croatia, not Bulgaria (which was in that period a province of the Ottoman Empire)

    • @Thoughty2
      @Thoughty2  Před 3 lety +158

      Yes you're right - Bulgaria was meant to be Croatia here, I'm sorry for the oversight. Thanks for pointing that out :)

    • @mrdomino8205
      @mrdomino8205 Před 3 lety +3

      OMG UR SMART

    • @mrdomino8205
      @mrdomino8205 Před 3 lety +3

      @John Nelson who would bother lol

    • @bezvezenetko
      @bezvezenetko Před 3 lety +7

      @@Thoughty2 how can you forget Croatia. I LIVE HERE. We are the best!

    • @StarsingerOG
      @StarsingerOG Před 3 lety +5

      Bulgarians getting triggered rn.

  • @peggycarlyle6409
    @peggycarlyle6409 Před 4 měsíci

    I think this one of my favorite videos you have made. I’m so glad you referenced it in the Poe video.

  • @wedgie502
    @wedgie502 Před 3 lety

    This was a wonderful and elegantly told story! Awesome video!

  • @Xehemoth
    @Xehemoth Před 3 lety +235

    Fraud or not, this is still insanely impressive.

  • @kablanq4673
    @kablanq4673 Před 3 lety +427

    “There was another common reaction people had to the turk-“
    *Air force ad plays*

  • @rickpontificates3406
    @rickpontificates3406 Před 3 lety +3

    Both Dupin and Sherlock Holmes were inspired by a REAL LIFE super sleuth named Eugene Francois Vidocq who lived in the 18th century.

  • @promosolo
    @promosolo Před 2 lety

    Love it! Great content as always - thank you :)

  • @justaduck3615
    @justaduck3615 Před 3 lety +434

    The chess player in The Turk who faced Napoleon must have been like: THIS IS MY CHANCE.

  • @thomasviern806
    @thomasviern806 Před 3 lety +344

    I love how the Habsburg's chin has become an inside joke of this channel

    • @alaaobaid3363
      @alaaobaid3363 Před 3 lety +11

      A chin like a SLEDGHAMMER !!!

    • @mitaskeledzija6269
      @mitaskeledzija6269 Před 3 lety +4

      I have a chin like that. It sucks...

    • @maggiee639
      @maggiee639 Před 3 lety +6

      The Habsburg jaw is well known outside this channel.

    • @FeedScrn
      @FeedScrn Před 3 lety +5

      The Dutchess was spared that chin, so she made up for it with a double-chin later on in life... Thoughty2 says.... ha ha ha...

    • @buddyclem7328
      @buddyclem7328 Před 3 lety +2

      @@mitaskeledzija6269 Same, and I have the thumbs too!

  • @DamianLoved
    @DamianLoved Před 2 lety +2

    Imagine fucking around with one of the world's most ambitious and ruthless conquerors with a fake chess machine.

  • @Gdub33
    @Gdub33 Před 7 měsíci

    Thats pretty cool. I have never heard of this before. Which is rare. Thank you for the information and great video!

  • @molybdaen11
    @molybdaen11 Před 3 lety +78

    I still find it interesting how a machine of that time could move a arm and a hand acurate enough to move chess pieces.

  • @briishperson4555
    @briishperson4555 Před 3 lety +145

    “Napoleon Bonaparte”
    Plays British Grenadiers

    • @retake6977
      @retake6977 Před 3 lety

      @kakyoin the milf hunter He is you but with more quality

    • @dava8058
      @dava8058 Před 3 lety +1

      Should have the onion song

  • @MrCornelius61
    @MrCornelius61 Před 2 lety +2

    In our language, which is also Kempelen's mother tongue, the inventor's name is correctly Kempelen Farkas. At that time, the names of the people entering the royal court were automatically changed to the German / Austrian name system, hence the "von". That man was a mechanical genius anyway, a separate video could be made of all his machines

  • @JamesStoddah
    @JamesStoddah Před 2 lety

    That was pretty cool. Love that story (well delivered too!)

  • @Ryan-vl2nn
    @Ryan-vl2nn Před 3 lety +259

    Fascinating story. I can’t believe that I never heard of the “Turk” before, but am thankful for knowing it’s story now.

    • @dawey8897
      @dawey8897 Před 3 lety +4

      Same, for an automaton who defeated many well known people it doesn't seem well known

    • @mazadancoseben4818
      @mazadancoseben4818 Před 3 lety

      @@dawey8897 , exactly. It's terrifying!

    • @JohnJBrowne11209
      @JohnJBrowne11209 Před rokem

      Probably showing my age but I read about this 50+ years ago in the How & Why Wonder Book Robots and Electronic Brains

  • @TrainBoy227
    @TrainBoy227 Před 3 lety +417

    So, you're telling me that Sherlock Holmes was essentially created by some 250 year old simp with a wrench and a chess board?

    • @renz1013
      @renz1013 Před 3 lety +8

      wellcyes but atually no, it was the cause not the reason for its creation, directly anyways what do I know

    • @AbdulWahab-cy2wc
      @AbdulWahab-cy2wc Před 3 lety

      Why sherlock holmes?

    • @beanboy5295
      @beanboy5295 Před 3 lety +1

      @@AbdulWahab-cy2wc watch the video

  • @briankleinschmidt3664
    @briankleinschmidt3664 Před 3 lety +3

    "Mitchell's son, 'Silly ass.'" Lol

  • @NeverSaid-
    @NeverSaid- Před 3 lety +1

    It was impressive to be able to actually move the pieces with the magnetic board.

  • @XenXenOfficial
    @XenXenOfficial Před 3 lety +426

    "I like to be called by my goth name... Night Pain."
    -Edgar Allan Poe

    • @Hardrockkiller777
      @Hardrockkiller777 Před 3 lety +10

      Oh god

    • @rickjames7253
      @rickjames7253 Před 3 lety +3

      Is this a direct quote from Poe?
      If so, from where?

    • @Hardrockkiller777
      @Hardrockkiller777 Před 3 lety +19

      @@rickjames7253 South Park season 17 episode 4.

    • @2fangs298
      @2fangs298 Před 3 lety +5

      @@Hardrockkiller777 lol 🤣 fuckin southpark. I love tht show

    • @BatkoBrat
      @BatkoBrat Před 3 lety +2

      I love the goth kids episodes xD

  • @andor888
    @andor888 Před 3 lety +100

    I think the most amazing thing about this is that Kasparov was able to detect unusual behaviour from Deep Blue based on one move in the endgame.

  • @charliepea
    @charliepea Před rokem

    So many all-stars mentioned in this video. Man that machine must be so lucky to be part of their history.

  • @scottjackson1420
    @scottjackson1420 Před 3 lety

    You got me. I just now bought Stick A Flag In It on Kindle.
    Your videos are so entertsining; I have high hopes for your book.

  • @vittxrio5198
    @vittxrio5198 Před 3 lety +158

    I love how Thoughty2 frequently uploads this year!

  • @GasMeltdown
    @GasMeltdown Před 3 lety +868

    finally we have found him, history's biggest simp

    • @francisconsidine4067
      @francisconsidine4067 Před 3 lety +59

      A very smart simp

    • @toothpasteman3400
      @toothpasteman3400 Před 3 lety +23

      @@francisconsidine4067 a simp nonetheless

    • @tprime2702
      @tprime2702 Před 3 lety +13

      Wasn't Maria Theresa a... I don't know, lunatic?

    • @Jonathanizer
      @Jonathanizer Před 3 lety +14

      Pretty sure this guy was compensated well for entertaining the court.

    • @McL0VINNN
      @McL0VINNN Před 3 lety +29

      Scholars have found that he sent hundreds of dollars to Belle Delphine.

  • @unclemarksdiyauto
    @unclemarksdiyauto Před 2 lety

    Very interesting history lesson as always! Thanks.

  • @deborahdanhauer8525
    @deborahdanhauer8525 Před 2 lety

    What a great story! I love it when I discover something I was unaware of, that greatly influenced history. It makes me wonder what object, or event, or person, around me right now will fill that roll and become hugely important, yet remain obscure.🤗🐝❤️

  • @TheNukedNacho
    @TheNukedNacho Před 3 lety +432

    This robot may be able to beat me in chess.
    But I’d like to see how it fares against my sledgehammer.

    • @agisuru
      @agisuru Před 3 lety +35

      Garry Kasparov after losing to Deep Blue
      This isn't a joke, he started carrying a crowbar to chess matches from then on for explicitly that purpose

    • @aongo7615
      @aongo7615 Před 3 lety +4

      @@agisuru We started learning about Garry Kasparov in our degree studies recently. Didn't took long for his name to show up here.

    • @Valigarmanda
      @Valigarmanda Před 3 lety +6

      It's all fun and games till the automaton catches the sledgehammer with its hand and starts laughing mechanically.

    • @TheNukedNacho
      @TheNukedNacho Před 3 lety +3

      @@Valigarmanda HAAAANS. GET ZE FLAMMENWERFER

  • @TailsClock
    @TailsClock Před 3 lety +132

    "With the automaton destroyed, Mitchel's son, *Silly Ass*..."
    As someone with a friend called Silas, It's amazing I don't recall anyone ever calling him that in highschool. Also surprising you went and called the guy that here. Did he wrong you?

    • @Psichotica7
      @Psichotica7 Před 3 lety +6

      Lol, I did a double take when I heard that, then a second later he showed his name. A calculated move, I'm sure...

    • @bobchuseby
      @bobchuseby Před 3 lety +5

      He also says "Eggdar Allen Poe."

    • @VoxelMusic
      @VoxelMusic Před 3 lety +3

      Talk about taking it personally on behalf of someone else.

  • @emilynelson9174
    @emilynelson9174 Před 2 lety

    Either way, an incredible and astounding machine! Thanks for sharing

  • @felipecardoza9967
    @felipecardoza9967 Před 2 lety

    EAP's analysis of this machine was a good read. Some of his reasons for debunking it was that it did not invariably win, it only did extra movements when the next move was obvious, the order of opening the doors to "prove" it was all machinery, as well as the fact that the automaton was often not exhibited when a certain person was ill...

  • @Maveraxus2.0
    @Maveraxus2.0 Před 3 lety +416

    “There was another reaction people had to the Turk- RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!!”

    • @Nichodo
      @Nichodo Před 3 lety +4

      Nice one man XD

    • @Burn_Angel
      @Burn_Angel Před 3 lety +5

      I imagined someone saying that, then being raided by vikings.
      Vikings with guns.
      *Gun vikings*

    • @j7.018
      @j7.018 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Burn_Angel
      Ooo joajajis
      I know what I'm going to draw today.

    • @AcidxAnarchy
      @AcidxAnarchy Před 3 lety

      We're doomed.

    • @msaocer
      @msaocer Před 3 lety +1

      I got AFK Arena, the new Raid shadow legends

  • @apollothefirst
    @apollothefirst Před 3 lety +944

    Turk: Can I play white?
    Napoleon: Hmm, can I be this time?
    Turk: REEEE LET ME BE WHITE I WANT TO BE WHITE!!!!!!

    • @wsp995
      @wsp995 Před 3 lety +2

      Lol

    • @sumvs5992
      @sumvs5992 Před 3 lety +16

      @Graham Murphy okay, how are a series of gears able to calculate moves that are able to match the best players at the time?

    • @TheStrayy
      @TheStrayy Před 3 lety +1

      @@sumvs5992 it’s much more complicated than a couple of gears

    • @Sandwich13455
      @Sandwich13455 Před 3 lety

      It's a woman

    • @TheStrayy
      @TheStrayy Před 3 lety +1

      @@Sandwich13455 hey Siri. Find me a big. Beautiful. WOMAN

  • @Zypherfox1
    @Zypherfox1 Před 3 lety

    what's amazing is the thought of how the inventer made a device that can mimic a persons movements.

  • @thegooddoctor6719
    @thegooddoctor6719 Před 3 lety

    Brilliant - thanks for the content !!!!

  • @DownhillAllTheWay
    @DownhillAllTheWay Před 3 lety +58

    Actually, even though it was a hoax, the Turk must have had some pretty smart mechanics inside of it to convincingly reproduce the movements of the chess master inside, and for him to be able to unerringly follow his opponent's moves.
    It's always a bit of a give-away, though, when a machine loses its temper.
    There was another automaton that could write pre-programmed texts - and it wasn't a hoax. It was a mechanical marvel of its time.

    • @renz1013
      @renz1013 Před 3 lety +1

      yeah which impressed me the most

    • @swiftfox3461
      @swiftfox3461 Před 3 lety

      IDK. A mechanical counter and an arm-sweep mechanism wouldn't be impossible to implement.

    • @DownhillAllTheWay
      @DownhillAllTheWay Před 3 lety +11

      @@swiftfox3461 Clearly, it _wasn't_ impossible. Some mechanical inventor did it 200 years ago, at a time when many other fantastic automata were made - able to write a sentence, or the silver swan (Bowes museum) that swallows a fish. But my point was, that many people feel that there was nothing wonderful about it because there was a human chess player inside - so there was nothing clever about it. It was, nonetheless, a feat of design and fine mechanics. Fine mechanics goes back further than that, of course - but that doesn't mean it wasn't an admirable feat of ingenuity.
      Clocks are fine mechanical contrivances, and they have existed for quite a while, and the Antikythera mechanism has taught us that some technicians had detailed mechanical knowledge, even BC. But gearwheels were cut by hand, we believe, with a chisel. Try that some time. Just make a pair of meshing gearwheels without the aid of anything other than hand tools, and see if you don't think that fine mechanics without the advantage of machine tools is not "pretty smart mechanics".

    • @zp944
      @zp944 Před 2 lety

      @@DownhillAllTheWay heal yourself bro

  • @sebastianelytron8450
    @sebastianelytron8450 Před 3 lety +1143

    Why was the robot arrested?
    He was charged with battery.

  • @davidanderson_surrey_bc
    @davidanderson_surrey_bc Před 3 lety +6

    Poe: There's a man inside the box!
    Man inside the box: And I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for that meddling author!
    Scooby Doo: Reckrate!

  • @riffwizardsupreme
    @riffwizardsupreme Před rokem

    i first heard about thoughty2 in 2014 when i was in the 6th grade. my science teacher used to play his videos a handful of times for intros to whatever subject.

  • @sideways3667
    @sideways3667 Před 3 lety +154

    Dude, I just want to thank you for being one of the only channels that isn’t politically charged, self centered, a rip off, reactionary, or any of the other bullshit genres that makes up 99% of CZcams. THIS is the type of content I come to CZcams for. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

    • @maxrockatansky3102
      @maxrockatansky3102 Před 3 lety +3

      So true, totally agree with you 100%, almost impossible to find interesting content

    • @sharonking574
      @sharonking574 Před 3 lety +3

      Try out MrBallen. He does supernatural stuff but majority does real murder mysterys strange occurances and stuff along those lines

    • @TheBlueprintsOrlando
      @TheBlueprintsOrlando Před 3 lety

      I second that statement.

    • @ClingyCrab
      @ClingyCrab Před 3 lety

      @@sharonking574
      Yes.

    • @sharonking574
      @sharonking574 Před 3 lety

      @@ClingyCrab yes

  • @masteryoda2918
    @masteryoda2918 Před 3 lety +115

    I saw a movie where the "Turk" actually was a clear system of gears and levers and was controlled by a midget that was hidden inside the box at the bottom.

    • @fernandojuarez4499
      @fernandojuarez4499 Před 3 lety +5

      whats it called

    • @masteryoda2918
      @masteryoda2918 Před 3 lety +7

      @@fernandojuarez4499 - sorry that was a translated - dubbed over from some other language movie from way back in the 70 - 80`s. I think it was German made, I could be wrong.

    • @ShalmendoGlineux
      @ShalmendoGlineux Před 3 lety +1

      @@masteryoda2918 For some reason I thought you were referring to that one episode of Doctor Who lol

  • @ching574
    @ching574 Před 3 lety

    even tho it wasnt a true robot and functioned on its own the engineering of this thing is absolutely amazing

  • @paramounttechnicalconsulti5219

    Second comment, I am a chemistry professor; the intgrated circuit is a marvel of understanding, design and engineering, but it is never the point-it is the tool. While they were still servicable, I used to love teachign advanced classes on old, mechanical and vaccum tube intruments. The point was to show the student HOW the data was obtained, as opposed to obtaining the data in a "magic" beige or blue box with an "on" switch. "The Turk", and mechanial naval artillery rangefinders, are in the same genre; human reason had already deduced the options, how they were derived, and what the most likely outcome was. IN a way, I ma still more amazed by the mecahnical solutions, where engineers had to design (and artisans create) cogs and gears that would manipulate space-time in the way predicted. Binary circuits and programming are advancements in miniaturization and "democratization" (you can buy an ap, get a result, and not have the foggiest as to how it happened or what it means), but are no more elegant or sublime in an engineering sense compared to the mechanincal solution.

  • @nafiulhabib3081
    @nafiulhabib3081 Před 3 lety +165

    When faced of a machine that could think for itself...
    They called bullshit...
    Had me laughing 🤣

  • @brantnuttall
    @brantnuttall Před 3 lety +24

    Chess playing pianist here. It's still known as Maelzel's Metronome and if you've ever wondered why at the beginning of some pieces have the indication MM: crotchet = 88, now you know what the MM stands for.

  • @UnlicensedOkie
    @UnlicensedOkie Před rokem +1

    I like how you included images of the automaton from Hugo. They actually kinda referenced the Turk in that movie. Saying how Hugo’s father saved the old automaton from a burned museum.
    That automaton wasn’t a chess player though. It was made by George Melies

  • @mrleche3468
    @mrleche3468 Před 3 lety +4

    I can’t believe people dislike these vids this guys mint

  • @alphaundpinsel2431
    @alphaundpinsel2431 Před 3 lety +38

    the ultimate "he had us in the first half, not gonna lie"

  • @TotalImmort7l
    @TotalImmort7l Před 3 lety +226

    Programmers be like: *_Why solve a problem in 5 minutes when we can spend 5 hours automating it?_*

    • @TheJunky228
      @TheJunky228 Před 3 lety +57

      why solve 100 similar problems in 8 hours 20 minutes, when you can spend 5 hours automating them and never having to deal with it again?

    • @boomerix
      @boomerix Před 3 lety +29

      Why waste 5 minutes everyday with a boring repetitive task, if I can put some extra effort in and not have to deal with it ever again?
      (Also automating things is fun, doing repetitive mindless tasks is not ....)

    • @remussayed1007
      @remussayed1007 Před 3 lety +7

      Programmers be triggered by this joke.

    • @justinc2633
      @justinc2633 Před 3 lety +3

      @@TheJunky228 because maybe you only need to do it once? why spend 5 hours automating something youll use once?

    • @diablo.the.cheater
      @diablo.the.cheater Před 3 lety +5

      @@justinc2633 Because you never know when you will need it again, and at that time, you will be thankfull

  • @michaeladleractor
    @michaeladleractor Před 2 lety

    I love your work…thanx so much

  • @scoobyloo3157
    @scoobyloo3157 Před 3 lety +1

    The best part of this VERY interesting video tho', was listening to T2 trying to say 'Edgar' and failing every time by pronouncing it 'Egdar'! 🤣🤣🤣