RANKING THE TOP 32 DISC GOLFERS BY PUTTING!?! (with Eagle McMahon)
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 10. 10. 2020
- After my video "RANKING THE TOP 32 DISC GOLFER BY DISTANCE"', that sparked a lot of discussions, I of course had to do it again. I was too scared to do this by myself so Eagle McMahon joined me to rank all these players by their putting skills. Excuse the bad audio. I'm working on figuring out what's wrong with my camera and how to fix it. So here's our list. Maybe slightly controversial đ
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The fact that Paul was argued between weakest part of his game and top 2 speaks volumes to why he dominates every tournament
My thought was, both statements can be true. You can be a top 3 putter, and it be the weakest part of your game. Also, Im pretty sure Paul said in a video a while back, that he planned to work on putting in the offseason because it was the weakest part of his game.
The best putters in the world don't talk about it . . . Eagle . .. is obviously NOT the best. Kid needs a good ol' slice of humble pie.
All I could think was how with Paul the weakest part of his game still puts him in the top 3
@@richjames4094 yeah and yes he said that
@@destiny-crew he most def is one of the best. also, stats dont lie
"this is not a stab at you, its a stab at your game"
Eagle McMahon with the roast of the year.
Epic roast
Can you have my children?
@@calebsauder21 yes only if your children have my children
Should have had an âinconsistentâ bracket
Good idea. Better than âbest part of game.â
@@darinladd5312 excatly, other "parts of ones game" should be another video
And maybe also a Meh bracket ;)
Or "streaky"
This would have been a good category. For example Nikko would fit in that perfectly.
If you are talking this year.
1-Eagle
2-Calvin
3-Dickerson
If you are going over a few years then Ricky and Paul are definitely top 3.
In my opinion, you have to take at least the last 3-4 years into consideration when arguing the âbestâ itâs insane to think 1 year would represent your skill level.
âRight now.â Eagle.
Yep!
i 100% agree with this talking about this year alone
Pretty much agree perfectly!
I would have Conrad putt for my life. Even if he misses he can perform a resurrection
Well said :-)
@Alan Ellis Why would you do that haha
@@bradley7347 It's a bot
Just like jesus
coming back to say that you'd survive in 2021 with conrad
Eagle: Iâm not going to comment on my putting skills.
Also Eagle: IM THE BEST PUTTER IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW! Mcbeth is aight.
Eagle can be a kid sometimes, because he still is I guess lol
He missed 5 putts in a row at the 2020 dgwc to score an 8 on ONE HOLE, not #1 đ€Ą
Beauty baby
fr he just wanted to be one
Stats dont lie
*Big Jerm has unsubscribed*
...or he is making up some funny remarks for his next Simon-card commentary.
âNo respect!â
I beat Jerm in the finals of Charlotte Putting League once... so yeah... this is correct. #Am50WorldPuttingChamp
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It was really funny watching this video. I felt like Eagle was subtly trying to push for #1 from the start but Simon wasn't giving him what he wanted, so finally he just came out and said it. I'm the biggest McBeth fan there is, but I gotta be honest, I think Eagle's right. He's the best overall putter in the game right now.
Simon do a strong part of game bracket
Putting
Upshots
Forehand
Backhand
Overhead
Power
Or all around equal
Brilliant idea
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I like this one cause its equally positive. Not trashing anyone, just praising people for their strengths
Scramble should also be a category! And overall I think thats a great Idea!
That would be awesome and then the last video rank the all around best player which would probably be Mcbeth.
Calvins putter only hit the ground 3 times last weekend....
Unfortunately one rolled into the water and costed him a major championship..........
Agreed that people don't give him the credit he is due because:
1st - He's relatively new to the pro-tour...
2nd - He's young & soft spoken...
3rd - He's not big on self-promotion like most of the current top players (so he doesn't have the fan base who cheer his name like all the other charismatic top players do)...
***Pound for pound, Calvin is an amazing player and in my opinion (as an observer over the past 2rs of the pro-tour), I'd say he's the ''New big thing'' (just a shame that he doesn't get promoted because of his personality)...
Matt S Literally everyone loves Calvin right now. Heâs killing it and has gained a ton of fans. I like your defense of him, I just think everyone already agrees with you
@@mattrix4200 I would disagree a bit, many people are very excited for Calvin, myself included. He has a style of promoting himself and drawing attention. Some people are passive agressive, Calvin Heimburg is passive flashy. He just puts on some weird glasses and does his dead fish face for player profile and hundreds of people will remember him for a long time ;) Edit: Also idk what you mean exactly by "soft spoken" or how would that be bad, but I saw Calvin in some interviews and he was very well spoken, confident and competitive. He is a very smart dude, that knows what to say and how to behave to make people talk about you and get sponsorships... obviously :D
Calvin should of switched to DD, they would of promoted the crap out of him.
I definetely would agree that Eagle is the n.1 putter in the world right now. Paul i'd still put to be the best of all time and the clutchest. Other guys just kinda slump up right now, all having their strengths and weaknesses in the different parts of the putting green.
Ps. I love that Eagle had the balls to put himself to be the n.1 putter in the world, cause it just happens he could be considered the best distance/backhand and sidearm player as well đ
Distance backhand or forehand yeah. But his control backhand is not the best right now. He puts himself out quite often but he makes up for it with great putting this season. If it wasn't for his putting right now, his control shots would be getting alot more critique.
Eagle is #1 putter right now no doubt đ„
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Look at his MVP open putting stats. He was 74% in circle one. He was like 40th in putting there. I'd put him in top 5 for the year but I dont know about number 1.
My opinion is that Eagle deserves #1 spot as putter and many other categories as well. I think most of his problems have to do with distance management on drives. He constantly throws too far or too short leaving him with long putts, which he still nails almost every single time. He also has problems with accuracy on control throws in the woods and tight fairways. I also think his anger management issues are luckily a thing of the past :D
I was about to be like, "No!" But I think you guys got it right at the end. I'd definitely want Paul putting for my life though..
That's what I'm saying
That's why he has his own category
The only caveat to that is that if I had to pick someone for a 60 foot uphill jump putt for my life I'm taking KJUSA all day. His jump putt game is insane.
@@kimano117 either KJ or conrad
@@EB-bl6cc uphill I'd take kj, downhill conrad.
Paul McBea5t just saw this and has decided to personally embarrass Eagle at the next event by making every putt from both circles đ
This series is awesome . Has a lot of room for stuff like : Roller throwers, Escape artist/ Scrambling , Sidearm , etc.
Scrambling #1 has to be Ricky.
I should tell you that even though you along with many others see it as fun, it's not, it hits the players mentally you know. You can't make bold statements (saying it's for fun) about someone's game. so, according to me, 'generalizing' a player's is wrong, atleast include some stats to prove your statement (or) add the year like ' in 2020 or 2019 or something ' so that even if you say someone is below the others they can just laugh it off thinking it's just that one year. Just because Simon or Eagle and their fans think that its fun, it's not at all fun for other players. For example, Mcbeth is an amazing putter for soo long and he proved that by winning the games, and you can't say you are better that him just because he is not his best this year, it's not right.
Rollers:
1-Eagle
2-Sexton
3-Nikko/Mcbeth/Ricky
Escape artist - Nikko?
Here are some statistics from UDisc. I took these from the Pro Tour category, which might not be the best choice, I don't really know enough about disc golf to be sure. The other categories are National Tour Stats and Season Stats. I figured that the Pro Tour numbers match most closely to the big tournaments that we are probably mostly concerned with.
I started entering a bunch of different players' numbers in a spreadsheet, but after a few minutes it was clear that the top three are Paul, Eagle, and Ricky. So I won't mention the other players, who seem by the numbers to be a fair bit behind these three.
UDisc's numbers go back to 2016, at least the ones that are readily available. Also, all of this is Circle 1x only. I didn't look at Circle 2.
Paul's Circle 1x percentages from 2016 through 2020: 87, 88, 87, 91, 87
Eagle's Circle 1x percentages from 2016 through 2020: 83, 84, 83, 91, 88
Ricky's Circle 1x percentages from 2016 through 2020: 86, 85, 83, 88, 87
Paul's average over five years: 88
Eagle's average over five years: 85.8
Ricky's average over five years: 85.8
Paul's average for 2019 and 2020: 89
Eagle's average for 2019 and 2020: 89.5
Ricky's average for 2019 and 2020: 87.5
Okay, those are some statistics. What follows are my opinions. It seems to me that by these numbers (which admittedly is not the full picture--no Circle 2, only Pro Tour, only five years, etc.) Paul is the winner. His average over five years is 2.2% higher than Eagle's. Eagle was better over the past two years, but only by half a percent. In a head to head match up, Paul was best in four years and Eagle was best in one year, and then only by one percentage point.
Also, Paul's putting has not dropped off in recent years, as some have claimed in earlier comments. Like so many other aspects of his game, his putting has been very consistent.
One last comment regarding the video. I really don't think it's a good idea for fellow pros to be critiquing each other in such a public way. These people have to play with each other over and over again, and I assume they are mostly friendly. This doesn't seem like a good way to build camaraderie with your buddies. Personally, I would be much more interested in a video by Simon and Eagle that talked about the differing styles of putting each person uses, and how this affects their putting game. Why does Kevin putt the way he does and what are the advantages and disadvantages of his particular method? What is it about James's style that makes him so much fun to watch? Is there anything there that amateurs can imitate? What is Chris Dickerson doing with his legs on those long jump putts and how does this contribute to his amazing putting? That kind of thing.
Yes, completely agree. Especially your last part of the comment.
That is nice analysis. I think you identified the biggest hole in its lack of C2 putting which seems to swing a lot of tournaments. There is at least another hole in the stats in general. There are times when running a C1X putt is bad golf. I am thinking of combinations of low ceilings and runaway greens. I am also thinking of Nate Sextonâs second to last âputtâ of USDGC 2017. I think Simon is very respectful of people, but this does push a line of gossiping. On the other hand since it is so public, it just stands as an open honest opinion.
Here are some more statistics. These are Circle 2 putts, from the Pro Tour only, from 2016 through 2020. Some of the younger players don't have results for all of those years. This list includes the top 8 players from Simon's list.
Here are their C2 putting percentages from 2016-2020, in order by average of all five years. Averages are at the end in parentheses.
Eagle: 38, 32, 30, 32, 34 (ave.=33.2)
Ricky: 32, 34, 31, 36, 32 (ave.=33)
Paul: 39, 28, 27, 31, 31 (ave.=31.2)
Kevin: n/a, 32, 19, 34, 36 (ave.=30.25)
James: 29, 25, 34, 25, 34 (ave.=29.4)
Calvin: n/a, n/a, 28, 28, 31 (ave.=29)
Chris: 26, 09, 33, 38, 32 (ave.=27.6)
Matt: 24, 22, n/a, 28, 36 (ave.=27.5)
Here are their C2 putting percentages, but just the last two years, 2019-2020, in order.
Kevin: 34, 36 (ave.=35)
Chris: 38, 32 (ave.=35)
Ricky: 36, 32 (ave.=34)
Eagle: 32, 34 (ave.=33)
Matt: 28, 36 (ave.=32)
Paul: 31, 31 (ave.=31)
James: 25, 34 (ave.=29.5)
Calvin: 28, 31(ave.=29.5)
Now more opinions. Over the long haul, the top three are the same as Circle 1x putting, namely Eagle, Ricky, and Paul. No surprise. As in the Circle 1x putting, the top three are very close to each other, but there is a change in the order, with Eagle in first place. If you add their Circle 1 and Circle 2 percentages over the past five years, you get this ranking:
Paul: 119.2
Eagle: 119.0
Ricky: 118.8
Of course, that number doesn't mean anything in the real world, but it's a combination of their Circle 1 and Circle 2 averages. It's amazing to me how close they are. Maybe the final conclusion from all of this is that they are all three amazing players, and there's really no need to try to separate them.
I guess you could say Paul is slightly better at Circle 1 putts and Eagle is slightly better at Circle 2 putts.
â@@hellmerj I wish we had more detailed data. If you're comparing two players and one of them gets more tee shots into the 50-60ft range while the other is more often in the 70-80ft range (i.e. just outside C2), it's going to lower the first player's C2 putting stats, just because nearly everything in the 50-80 foot range is a jump putt that ends up close to the basket. The same thing applies to C1x also. If one player has a lot of 30ft birdie putts and another player has a lot of 15ft par putts, it's going to distort their stats.
What we really need to see is each player's putting percentage at 20ft, 25ft, 30ft, 35ft, 40ft, 45ft, ... and so on.
I think this data shows that eagle is the best putter, Eagle is still young, which means he is imporiving on a faster rate, 5 years ago he was an 18 year old, which in my opinion kind of makes the 5 years stay irrelevant. I think that eagle is a better putter than Paul, at least for circle one, outside of circle one then you could debate
Love this. Creates such great discussion. Heard all the doubles skin match guys talking about where they were on the distance list, so everyone is watching it and talking about it.
Doug Cramer I bet itâs a mindfuck aimed at his competition just before the USDGC. All it did was fire up Dickerson lol
I'm glad you put Ricky in the top three eventually. He has been known for so long as one of the greatest putters in the world.
Ridiculous not putting him up there from get go
Eagle is a disc golf savant/ nerd/ historian. I love that heâs confident enough to recognize great putters and call people out on their game. Awesome video
The best putter in the world just missed 3 putts for quadruple bogie and costing him dgpt đ
I was thinking the same thing đ
He recognized that and posted it on is IGđ
i saw wysocki miss a 60ft putt and ended up being a 50footer and he made it the second time, wysocki over eagle w/putting IMO
We all have off days?
Sick follow-up video idea: Yâall should send out a google form and ask all of these top 30 players to organize this list then take the average. You could also tell them to not rank themselves.
Yeah Nate!!!!!!
I'd like to see the stats for McBeth's putting when he's in the lead and second place is within 2-3 strokes of him, or when he's chasing the leader by a couple of strokes. He doesn't miss and is absolutely unrelenting. I feel (subjectively) that his putting is at its worst when he has a 7-8 stroke lead and is just coasting to the finish line. I think Eagle needs a category for "has the best putting stroke" and Paul should be number one because the only thing that matters is winning and that's what his putt brings him. Eagle may in fact be a better putter but Paul has a gear (that includes his putt) that no one else in the world hits with as much regularity - hence his rating. This was one tough but definitely needed more players and more granularity. Maybe you can this for driving form for the next one?
Maybe a category for âbest mental game...â
It's called 'clutch'.
Jeff Thorstad yes thank you Jeff, thatâs pretty obvious. I want an actual stat for the above mentioned circumstance. I thought my description was pretty clutch but perhaps it flew over your head.
Whenever thereâs coverage I hope that Paul is behind or under pressure to watch him make insane clutch shots. Heâs a legend, itâs fun watching the best have to test themselves to get the result they strive for.
@@christophermccabe6115 Do you feel better, Chris? Big tough guy, now?
Great to have Eagle on the vid, so you have someone to discuss with. Love these vids.
I love watching Eagle in the hot seat, especially when it comes to talking about himself. Please continue this series to different aspects of the games. Rollers, FH, BH, flex, hyzerflip, etc.
There are many of us who have watched Paul putt on Jomez over the years, and heâs by far the best putter ever. Itâs not close. However, heâs not putting like his usual self right now and Eagle is better at the moment. I definitely expect Paul to retain that title as the best putter next season.
Maybe, there are so many excellent players out there now. Guys like Eagle and Calvin are gunning for Mcbeth now. its no question that Paul is the number one player still for the time being. Even with his "struggles" by his standards he still holds the highest rating at 1058, but I think these young guns are no joke and just because of the competition I am not sure we will see Paul go on another run like he did in 2019 where he was winning everything. He has missed alot of putts this season, and Jonesboro was no exception. He lost the tournament on the green in the final round.
Heâs not the best putter ever. Heâs a great putter, but Eagle is absolutely right. He misses more inside the circle putts than others, by definition that means he is not the best
I agree somewhat. Eagle, sure, #1 this year. Paul, definitely clutch. Don't see others make as many 60-108' putts as he does either. But I can't agree with James being 3rd. He's an awesome jump putter, but Chris makes those and inside circle putts more often than James.
I agree either chris or Calvin should have been 3rd
Only major quibble is having James in the top 3 currently. I'd put Dickerson or Calvin in the 3 spot over James, and that would've been the case before the USDGC as well.
I like that you have some discussion about each player, kind of thinking out loud about it. It's very interesting hearing pros talk about other pros. Having said that, I think these videos are awesome, keep it up! I also think that the drive to win a tournament, the "wants it" factor is what drives the best putters to be the best, and to be clutch. Who wants to win more than Paul & Ricky? They fight for it and have been for years, and you're seeing that fire in more players now (Eagle/KJ/etc), that's why our sport is so good right now. If a player doesn't have the "I can and will win this tournament" mindset, their putting will be average at best. Confidence is king.
I think this could me one of the most honest video ive seen on YT so far, I mean, Which other player do this?? Hats off to you boys! đ€đžđȘ
Paul Ulibarri is hilarious
Apparently he played a hot round yesterday at Winthrop. Too bad it costs real money to watch that coverage... but he wasn't on the lead card anyway. I hope sponsors step up and support the sport. Paying $20 for a weekend of DG is ridiculous.
With a name like âPUâ he has to be.
@@darinladd5312 Let's see how this plays out.
marscruz I think post production is running normally for free on CZcams one day late. Gatekeeper Media (Chase card MPO), GK Pro (FPO) and Jomez for lead card (MPO).
Mehameha No they arenât doing this unfortunately
The difference between the most âclutchâ putter and âThe most stokes lost/gained on the greenâ. IMO Paul is the most clutch putter but yeah, he misses some on the road to the finish.
Fellow couch warrior here, I canât putt consistently yet.
This was super entertaining! I think Eagle brought a lot to this video. I'd have to say though, I think I'd put Dickerson or Heimburg just slightly above Conrad, but it's hard to say that Matt Bell isn't above all three of them. Anyway it shakes out, very fun video! (Also I find it funny that Eagle at first refused to comment at all on his own putting, but then by the end of the video he declares himself #1 putter, albeit reluctantly! LOL)
I love these videos! And with an added perspective it is soo good.
To me, I definitely put Paul and Ricky in clutch. They have that extra gear where, late round 2/early round 3, if they get a 2 or 3 stroke lead, they're just not going to miss another putt and they'll find a way to make that 60+ footer. After that:
1. Eagle McMahon - He's proven this year that he belongs at number 1. Not only will he make the putts, but his margin of error is so small. He hits the same spot every time, no matter the distance; low on the pole dead-center.
2. Chris Dickerson - I didn't realize it until this past weekend, but I don't think I'm ever worried that he's going to miss. He just makes putt after putt but he does it so quietly.
3. Calvin Heimburg - A few hiccups this past weekend don't detract from his consistency. Always on the pole. Always focused. Minimizes strokes on the green.
James Conrad just hasn't been at his usual level this season, and even when he's in the circle, his putt just has so many moving parts that I always feel he could miss at any time.
A few other thoughts: Big Jerm - definitely the weakest part of his game but could so easily be fixed. He has too much lateral motion in his form, especially in his follow-through. He just needs to keep everything more balanced and in a straight line. He likes to tout the mantra "Think long, think wrong" but I really think he could benefit from taking a little more time and just to make sure he's hitting all the points in his form.
Simon - I really think it's all mental for you. You just don't go through that checklist in your head to make sure you're doing everything right on every putt. And you'll know it immediately too, that's why you almost always hit your second putt. It's not about adjusting and tweaking, it's about minimizing the errors and trusting your form and staying consistent. If I had to sum it up in one word: focus.
I think the weakest part of McBeths game is upshots. He often seems to not get very close but ends up making up for it with his putting.
Literally just said that to myself. Lol
Iâd say he has an elite backhand approach whereas his forehand wouldnât be as high up imo
He doesn't have to get it close and knows that. He said he aims within a 20-30ft radius bc he knows thats his easy range
Very true
I dont agree with that. I see him more than most, miss a 30 footer and go 30 feet past and miss his comebackers.
It just cost him a title at jonesboro.
Paul M
Putting âclutchâ in there was perfect. Great list!
The Shot of the day section is the answer to Nate Sexton's legendary question ;)
Eagle: âYouâre so humbleâ
Donât show him last video where he put himself in world classđ (Although he definitely deserved to be there without a doubt)
I donât think itâs about humbleness, Simon is clearly one of the farthest throwers, and putting is definitely the worst part of his game.
If youâve personally held the world distance record, itâs hard not to rank yourself as world class
@@jettlivingston4610 "humility," by the way
Nastier Nate For sure. And I put him in that category too
@@jettlivingston4610 No, his sidearm is the weakest right now. If you are not throwing it at all, and it definitely belongs to it, it's weakest part.
Simon you savage lol... Thanks for the collab + original, unique dg content
Really enjoyed this Video, Thanks! Keep it up!
Simon could you please add also european players at this lists, because example VÀinö MÀkelÀ From Finland is in 32 best players and he is also VERY strong and good putter so he could be easly pretty high in this list. Ps sorru for me English I know it is pretty bad, but at least I try
Seppo Paju!
"I'm going to stick with Chris. Its my channel."
Very interesting list Simon. Love these tier lists
Eagle you deserve to be up there at the top after this season! Donât be shy man! You absolutely deserve it.
Also, I think you guys may have two different approaches to this list. One being âof all timeâ and best putter over this past year.
How do you forget me again???
Are you in the top 32 on tour points? Valid complaint if so..!
@@subspaceanomaly 23rd with missing 4 events.
I was wondering the same thing! Simon can sure handle a disc, but when it comes to balls, he drops them. đ
@@Prez017 give him a slap when you see him
Iâd put you in solid for sure. Wouldnât say strongest part as you have a pretty well rounded game. (Weakest part might be forehand but do you even throw them? Donât see many) also not top 3 or almost top 3 no offense.
Having a second person there made this more entertaining, nice job!
Always entertaining. Thanks!
Awesome!!! Do more of these!
Conrad might not drain every 30 footer but you know heâs killing those 40+
They should have had a "doesn't miss from circle 2" category for Conrad and KJ
@@skating4lifedog honestly though!
Do Eagle and Paul have beef? hahaha he is getting very passionate
Just jealous...and full of envy....
This is a must watch even if for how awkward it was! Man I was squirming. Simon gets my respect for disagreeing and his painful honesty.
It would be interesting to see a side by side of how your assessments lined up with the stats for this year. Great video and analysis, though! Thanks!
Mcbeth on the final round chasing is like the John Wick of disc golf.
@@nickknight2733 ?
@@andrewgoss4328 lol wrong comment
It's a good idea for Simon to collaborate with Eagle for this breakdown. It brings in extra information and a different perspective... and some cover for criticism.
(1) Rick's putting isn't up to his normal excellence this year. I think the Lyme took some accuracy and confidence out of his stroke.
(2) Paul seems to miss putts when he is already out of contention or too far ahead. (is he points shaving?)
(3) Eagle's putting stroke is dirk/dagger-like and I wouldn't bet against him with someone else's money.
(4) Conrad maybe overthinks his putts sometimes. What velocity! Some baskets don't like that = push outs.
(5) Putting is the worst part of Nikko's game. It throws off all the rest of it and totally sabotages his mental game. Vesuvius child!
(6) I like watching Vinny Cal-zone walk up and just drill in putts like there is a conveyor belt between him and the bucket... until he misses.
(7) When KJUSA's game is going south it affects his putting. Confidence is what drives him. If he can't hit his lines it affects his putting.
(8) Barsby is one of the best when he gets his titration correct. That takes experience and knowledge. Too much... bad, too little... average.
(9) Emmer-daddy has a really fine putt until he gets near the finish line. Then he begins to doubt. He is great on moving day.
(10) Malt Ball needs to be on the wave and feeling the flow. Distractions can knock him off the wave and put him back in the lineup.
(11) Dickerson only misses when there is a glitch in the Matrix. You don't know it's going to happen until the moment has passed (past).
(12) Gibson needs to get serious about putting... and get a coach, and put in the hours. I don't think he's serious enough to do that.
(14) Simon is having a rough year. Too much going on IRL. I hope the woman he chose is the correct one! Best wishes and good luck.
(15) Didn't putting woes bring on the end of Will Schusterick's pro career? ...or did I miss something else? Most painful thing in DG to watch.
Yeah Nikko overthinks his putting but they are right about his practice putts. If you have ever watched him practice putt he does not miss any all from 40 ft 10 at a time.
@@Bluvz That just confirms that it's all in his head.
I watched Ricky putt until almost total darkness a couple of years ago at DeLa. He wouldn't stop. Everyone else (but me) had left almost an hour ago.
Gat dann thatâs a good analysis!
Eagle is just an agent of Chaos for the entire video XD. I love it
Love these ranking videos. Would be cool to see a best Turnover game, ranked from top three all the way down to Big Jerm sidearm at all costs
Putting could be the weakest part of Paul's game and he could also still be in the top 3. That is just a testament to how strong his whole game is.
simon just asking for more trouble when he arrives at the next tourney
Right?! Karma is a beeotch
It's only content lol
Why? He has to make his own throws. There's no tackling allowed in DG.
I like this series. With something like putting, I feel like you can bring in stats a little more to break ties. All those top tier guys are amazing!
Love these Simon+Eagle vlogs!
Add in like some "all time" guys as well. Like Steve Rico.
LOVE Rico Suave's putting. So smooth.
@@TheNadaladaDOTnet The "Cobra Strike" putt
I would rather have Paul hit a 40 footer to save my life before anyone on that list lol DEFINITELY not the weakest part of his game. Heâs one of the best putters in the history in disc golf
I think Eagle's point was moreso that if you account for distance, accuracy, and consistency Paul probably has THE best backhand, and also an underrated sidearm. It's hard to find holes in the dude's game.
Slowmo needed!!!!! In every vid would be the ticket!! Itâs my favorite part Simon đ€
Hey there Mr. Lizzote. 1st thing...Love the content. Keep it up bro! 2nd thing...When you are out filming your trick shots, or your rounds, do you film in 4K 30 fps, and down sample to 1080p 30 fps in editing? Was wondering because I notice your zoom ins seem to have very little loss in quality. Thank you sir.
Eagle, Paul, Calvin, Ricky (donât care what order, I slightly prefer eagle ) then a clear drop off in my mind
Pretty good but Calvin has smacked down Chris and James the last two to three years consistently on putts, stats speak for themselves
Most interesting thing in those 2 vids for me is the mindset behind ranking yourself. Don't feel bad for saying you're top 3 or even the best if there is an actuall argument for it and you put bigger part of your life to be that good. Stay humble but also stay realistic, for me those 2 go hand in hand cuz I'm just decent at what I do so it's easy to rank myself and stay humble xD
Simon big fan I got the same release as you and all I need to do is go down and push forward without alot of arm movement I'ma try and mimic you putting I love your putt you're my 1# favorite putter!
Eagle for #1. He's like a robot, super consistent. You should do "Funniest to play with" next!
need to see you get Hannah Mcbeth and do FPO
Yeah!
It would be PP for everything but fairway hitsđ
No one cares about women's sports if they have a pair of working testicles.
I enjoy these discussions guysâïž
Another great video Simon
Yes discmania sign ezra
Wow! Is it now EGO McMahon. : )
He is The best...
Quadruple bogie from putting at Hornets nest. Karma is a real thing.
I think you got it about right. Would be interesting to repeat the exercise next year to see if it changes at all.
I think this list is pretty accurate... Eagle is definitely top dog on putting for now, has been for a couple seasons now!!! You gotta revise the distance video though!!!
Im sure there are stats to back that up but im still taking mcbeth and wysocki over eagle
I think a lot of frustration comes from people being able to be placed into multiple tiers (Paul should be in almost top three, clutch, and weakest part) and no definitive metrics for what someone's game is (rollers, grenades, forehand?). For example, Jerm has the best forehand approach in the game, but if he has to throw a backhand approach, he's one of the worst. Also, while we know your trying to not hurt people's feelings, it's weird to put Emerson in the same tier as GG or Drew when he consistently out puts them every tournament
Top 32 ranked by how fun they are to play a round with.
Man! I watch a LOT of disc tourneys, and I think you both really nailed it. Eagle, don't be shy about calling it (you) like it is, as you are the best....but McBeast is the clutch guy. Simon, you assessed yourself accurately I think as well. If I were to change anything, I'd put Calvin next to James....there could be a tie at that spot.
Please make more of these ranking videos đ
I think cdick and Calvin above James just because James isn't having a great season this year. Cdick is always good and Calvin clutched a huge putt at Jonesboro hole 17.
He also just missed a putt on hole 17 at the USDGC which he missed, rolled into the water and lost the major.
@@HaikesXO ohh then maybe that changes things, I haven't seen the coverage yet
Favorite part of the video: eagle leaving his beanie downđ
You should do another one of these but give each person certain points per attribute out of 10 points. ie: Paul Mcbeth: power 7, accuracy, 9, putting 9, forehand 8. Something like that.
This content is gold!
You should have talked about objective parts of their putt like their form.
Yes, the deliberations and categories for this list did not allow the true story of a lot of these players' putting to show through.
Form is not objective. It's the most subjective.
@@playdg Okay, so sure there are many many different putting strokes in the top 32. And they are all exceedingly good. But there is a difference between McBeth's stroke and Keith's stroke. It honestly come down to consistency. Also, some people's strokes tend to hit the basket differently. Objectively there is the best way to putt. Although the best putter in the world may putt differently than that because the human aspect is huge. And some people's bodies can do things differently than others.
micah_lee it's true. I can literally fart over and over, where my butt inhales and then exhales farts. Try it. It's worth the sphincter calibrations. We all have our own fart forms, but some people make farts more often, and some more rapidly, but I won't claim to be the best. I like to do the Paul McBeth leg kickback during mine, personally, because the angle and thrust can control not only volume but tone!
Butt tone!
@@DJfractalflight you know I didn't even reply to you
What's up Simon Lizotte from CZcams? Hope you're well. Much love - Grandma.
Maybe pick up the phone and call sometime. Youâre not too busy to talk to Gramms....
Absolutely agree. Great video!
Eagle deserves #1 no question. Laughed a lot during this video - thanks guys!
All I know is that when Iâm watching the coverages, I expect Eagle and the other âalmost top 3â contenders to make it from circles edge, but Iâm not super surprised if they just miss or hit off the cage...however, I am always surprised when Paul misses. I guarantee he would win 9 times out of 10 in a putt off against Eagle, but I guess that would be considered a clutch move too?? Lol
Strongest part of Barsby's game, or better. Especially circle 2 where he has so many memorable hits.
Have to disagree there, I think sidearm is his strongest, though close.
I think his sidearm is way past his putting
Barsby has killer putting. Especially despite obstacles.
Yeah, but the strongest part of GBâs game is still his man-bun.
I would love to see what the stats say for the last few years, both individually and overall, for both C1x and C2 putting
Think ya'll got it right. Should have a list of C1 and C2 as well. Inside the circle for my life, I'm going with Paul for the clutch. Outside the circle either James "The Mane" Conrad or KJUSA
Love you guys. But this rating system was rediculous.
Best, Almost Best, Good, or Everything else is better.
You can't have a realistic rating system if you are afraid to put people on the bottom.
Agreed. This is the pro tour, so you're held to world class standards. If your putting is lagging behind the other players, calling it out is just a fair assessment. To quote Michael Corleone, "It's not personal. It's strictly business."
You can throw all the stats at me you want, Paul Mcbeth is #1. There is a reason hes been so dominate for so long and its clutch putting. I dont care how many putts you make when you are in 23rd place, because it doesnt matter. Paul has made more clutch putts than any person in disc golf history.
Fax itâs not the weakest part of his game lol
I would love to see you analysis with the FPO field also. That would be cool.
The way the Macbook lines up with that right column!!
1. Eagle
2. Ricky
3. Calvin
and Paul rides the Special Bus
Eagle Paul Calvin, old Ricky sure but right now, no
@@levimolina1560 Agreed
Conrad great player, not a top 3 putter.
IDK, he's certainly close. At usdgc he was #2 circle 2 and #4 circle 1x.
I loved the brief 30 seconds with Eagle's hat down looking like Simon kidnapped him and forced him into making this video.
I think you honestly nailed the whole thing.