@@alanraftel5033 al tho idk much about this situation from what i know morocco is claiming western sahara as theirs and others are saying it's independent or somethin right?
@@fitmotheyap yeah Morocco claims it as theirs, since Morocco became independent and the famous "green march" as a symbol of independency in morocco and moroccan people reclaiming the western sahara after the Spanish colonization. and I can say that as I am from Laayoune, a city from Western Sahara as you may call it, and I consider myself morrocan and this region belongs to Morocco, and most people consider themselves moroccan in here so idk why people only try to listen to minorities who wanna be independent from Morocco
Nah it's not about what Google wants, if Google wants to offer Maps they often have to show what the local government wants (in case you didn't watch or understand the video).
I can understand Kashmir but the Chinese claim of Arunachal Pradesh is totally unjustified. The people living there identify themselves as Indian and every part of it is administered by the government of India. I can say so because I live in the adjacent state of Assam.
No we shouldn't understand Kashmir Kashmir is India's territory and there is no if aur but about it China's claim on Arunachal Pradesh is simply stupid we should simply put our claimant on Tibet as whole
kkk kidney ☝️+ You can very easily imagine if Kashmir were to gain independence or become part of Pakistan it won't last in new situation for long. China would take over very soon thereby shifting the balance of power in the region fully into China's favours and providing them with a fresh water source they so badly need right now.
1950s : Taiwan is a part of China since ancient time 1960s: Arunachal and Kashmir are part of China since ancient time 2020: South China Sea is a part of China since ancient time 2100: Moon is a part of China since ancient time
Most 'since ancient time' claims are bullshit. so Ostpreußen is part of Germany since Medieval time so Kaliningrad should be renamed as 'Königsberg' and Russia should return them to the Germany? I don't think so.
On 6:15 Google doesn't show the border as a ukrainian-russian border, it shows it as a border between Ukraine and Autonomous Republic of Crimea (it's official name of Crimea in Ukraine).
No country near India covers as much coastal area as India does, other countries like Sri Lanka,Indonesia,Maldives etc which are completely covered with ocean are smaller than India, hence we got Indian Ocean
Google are basically like: "Hypocrisy is the safest policy" Edit: Im actually surprised you didnt mention the Palestine and Isreal Map Dispute (Back then in western country Palestine basically didnt exist, while it did in Arab country, but recently google just removed the name Palestine from the picture and just referred them as Gaza and West Bank
Mr. Liam Feasting on people while theyre weak only results in more bloodshed later on. and the cycle just keeps going on, funnily enough the only ones that did relate and gave empathy to the jews back then were the arabs while the western civilization always caused mass genocide (Surprise surprise, germans were never the first, nor will they be the last)
Verry Ganteng the Jews are the proven indigenous people of the land of Israel. If you want to get into the discussion we could. But no, it wasn’t a plan to destablize the Middle East. If the Arabs accepted the first extremely generous plan then we’d already of had peace
@Verry Ganteng I don't speak on behalf of all Israelis but I believe all of the West Bank is for Israel. Its historic Judea and Samaria which belonged to us and has many artifacts for us. The annexation was meant to annex all the parts where nobody lived in. It wouldn't have happened if the Palestinians accepted the 6 state/peace offers from Israel that would give them an established state in the West Bank and Gaza but they want all or nothing. It's clear these people are at fault from there clear stubborness and ignorance.
In Finland we call Baltic sea "Itämeri" which literally means East sea, even though it is west of us. This is because we used to be invaded by Sweden for centuries, and from their point of view Baltic sea lies in the east. Then again Estonians call Baltic sea "Läänemeri" which means West sea. Pretty wild, right?
I'm Israeli, we don't have a different map (even though Israel considers East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights to be part of it). I also went to Palestinian google maps, looks the same. Doesn't look like there's Syria google maps.
I think Sea of Japan needs to be accepted. I expect people who live in Earth except for Korea and Japan recognize that sea as Sea of Japan. Actually, The name doesn't matter. Indian Ocean contacts with so many countries including Australia. But Australian government doesn't complain about Indian Ocean. And We have Korean strait.
Found your channel the other day, and I can't get enough. This is pure quality! Informative, interesting and very well executed. I did hit that follow button halfway throughout the first video and it's been a pleasure! Keep up the good work!
When I tried to hover the street view icon over Area 51, the icon goes from a person to a flying saucer. I wonder if that happens to users outside the U.S?
I am neither Arab or Persian, but we learned it has two names and more Arab gulf is more widely used. There is also an argument to be made about it being called Arabian gulf because it is surrounded from all sides by Arabs even in Iran the people on the gulf are called the Ahwazi people and they are Arabs who live in Iran.
Story: My father is Arabian and mother is Persian. I've grown up in Kuwait where we were made to believe that the Persian Gulf is an Arabian Gulf. I looked like a fool when I moved to Australia the first time as a sponsored student and happened to mention this Arabian Gulf and got laughed at. Wasn't really fun. I personally believe that the Persian Gulf is Persian is a fact as true as the way Iran is Persia.
yall claim its the Persian Gulf just how you claimed Emirate of Arabistan and killed its leader. Since 1500s the Arabian Gulf been surrounded by arabs it make no f*cking sense to name it the Persian Gulf. Also you gonna say that in history maps it says the Persian. We don't define ourselves based on what the greeks or the romans call us or call our land. We been living in this region for thousands of years no one can come and name our region for us like the Spanish did to the Philippines.
Also the Arabian gulf is more important to us than to Iran which has no cities on its coast. Unlike Kuwait, Bahrian, Qatar, Saudi Arabian, UAE and Oman.All these Arabian states have a dense population on the coast of the Arabian Gulf. Before the discovery oil since the mid 1800s these countries economy relayed on fishing and pearling in the gulf.
@@7164227 You don't know anything about Iran or Persia, when Persia was an empire you were living as nomads in the dessert! Iran has many cities across the Persian Gulf, Bandar Abbas and Bushehr are just two examples and we have many islands. Your countries (Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain etc.) Have the same population as Iranian secondary cities like Esfahan, Mashhad, Shiraz etc. also most of your Arab countries have only a minority of Arabs livng in them as most of your population consists of foreign workers from India, Philipines,... and western expats. Persian have been there for thousands of years and your countries aren't even a 100 years old lol
@@kasrabarati1277 Herodotus the father of history , mentioned that it is the Arabian Gulf, but he did not mention the Persian Gulf .The Persians were settling in Central Asia, and they were not present in the Middle East until 800 BC. so it is ( ARBIAN GULF )
@@s1word Why are you bringing a Greek historian when an Arab historian like ibn Khaldun called it Persian Gulf? Herodotus called the Red Sea as the Arabian Gulf.
The line which appears when zooming Crimea (Ukr. version) only shows you the border between two Ukrainian regions. Kherson region and Crimea. This line will always appear when zooming regions' borders in Ukraine.
Hey! I did look for the Japanese and Korean disputed sea...there is also one more interesting thing, the part of the sea surrounding Korea is named in the manner "East sea/Sea of Japan" while, the part of the sea surrounding Japan is named in the manner "Sea of Japan/East Sea" depicting naming supremacy.
Great video. It is nice to see all additions in the comments! If I could add my own: look up the Costa Rica - Nicaragua "Google maps war", the San Juan dispute. I was very surprised you didn't mention it, as it displays the consequences this policy can have.
Border disputes are one thing. Naming conflicts another. Here in Germany we refer to the baltic sea as "East Sea", because it is to our east. Or the Lake Constance (named after a city on it's shores) is called "Bodensee" (after another place on it's shores) And we actually have a border "dispute" at the end of the river Ems, where the question is if the border goes in the middle of the river or following it's deepest part. The conclusion was to clear the dispute later and everyone seems happy with that ambiguous solution.
Fun fact: North Korea claims Sea of Japan/East Sea to be named Sea of Korea. Edit: okay apparently it's "Korean East Sea" and not "Sea of Korea". I apologize lol.
@@fyrhunter_svk well actually just searched it up... they actually call it "Korean East Sea" but i could swear i was told it was "Sea of Korea" lol. Sorry.
@@alinek2289 Sea of Korea (Mer de Corée) is name that had been used up to ~19c by European countries. I think there were a lot of different names that you (or your source) might've been confused.
In USA there is a Google difference between Clark's Hill lake on the Georgia side and Lake Strom Thurmond on South Carolina side. Interesting history, one should look further into the story.
Arabia gulf is Red Sea, Persian Gulf is in Iran-Saudi-Iraq-Kuwait. It was name Persian because it was Persian empire, even Arab was Native to the South Iraq and Ahwaz or today Khuzestan Province, Kuwait, Arabia Peninsular and Iran Gulf Coast, it was Part of Persian Empire, that rule Iraq , Bahrain and even to Yemen.
There is another famous one you missed out. The historic and cultural rivalry between England and France. That narrow stretch of water between England and France, in English it is known as "The English Channel", while in French, it is known as "La Manche".
Great video. The Sea of Japan/East Sea conflict is a little odd. Its not strange that Korea calls it East Sea, but demaning that everyone else do is quite unreasonable. In Sweden we call the Baltic Sea Östersjön (which is also the East Sea, or East Lake) because it is to the east of us. But demanding everyone else call it that would be strange.
The funny thing about this is that in all germanic languages except english its called the East Sea and even in Finnish. Then we have Estonia which calls its the West Sea and the rest of the world calls it the baltic sea.
That's why I prefer OpenStreet Maps. They just show the de-facto borders. Also, they don't take years to update a map. When the crimean bridge was built, or the Hong-Kong-Zhuhai Bridge they had them really fast. Google took forever to add satelite footage, and still hasn't designated the bridge on the default map.
@@I_AM_HYDRAA | They don't. The decisions are made by the countries on the ground. One decides to occupy an extra km², OpenStreet updates the map accurately. That is what de-facto means. A fact. It doesn't matter what claims are made. They can say whatever they want, but facts are facts. You can't change them with words. Actions only.
@@I_AM_HYDRAA | Umm, lets see. Numerous examples but here are several of the more popular ones. Ukraine doesn't recognize Russian sovereignty over Crimea. And most of the other countries agree with Ukraine. That means that for most countries, Google Maps, will display a map in which Crimea is a part of Ukraine. But that is not true. Crimea is de facto part of Russia, and Open Street Maps shows a map depicting the real situation. Google maps will also display a different map for Japan, which shows the Southern Kuril Islands as part of Japan, whereas open street map only displays true to the situation map, a map where these islands are a part of Russia. Google maps displays a map of Israel different for different countries. For israel it will display a map where the entirety of Palestine (except Gaza), and the Golan Heights are a part of Israel. For Palestine and most arab countries it will display a map where none of the territory is under occupation. For Syria it will display Golan Heights as part of Syria. Open street maps displays the Golan Heights as part of Israel, and most of Palestine with dotten lines to show how much is occupied and how much is not, as in real life. In the case of Kashmir, for India Google displays a map where the entirety of Kashmir is in India, for Pakistan it displays a map where entirety of Kashmir (except Chinese occupied parts) are a part of Pakistan. Open street maps displays a map according to the line of control, with Kashmir divided between India, Pakistan and China. For Serbia, Google displays a map on which Kosovo is a part of Serbia. Open streets map depicts kosovo as separate, which it de facto is. For Cyprus, google displays an undivided map. Open street maps displays a map showing both Cyprus and the Turkish republic of cyprus, and also the british occupied Cyprus that acts as a buffer between the two. See... Google will just twist the map to fit a narrative, while Open Street Maps will show a map which depicts reality on the ground.
But sometime a country has to realize that lost land is lost. Forget it and move on. Denmark will have the right to Norway and England. Macedonia may consider Iran to be theirs. Not to mention Caddo, Savoy and Novgorod.
@@niklasmolen4753 I agree, which is why Israel can't claim the vague borders of the long extinct Israelites for themselves. 2000 years is far too long.
Also with reference to the East/Japanese Sea dispute. The term Japanese sea connects to name to a geographic area while naming the sea the East Sea completely depends on your point of view. Would be weird if Japan had to refer to a body of water as the East sea when it borders the western side of their Island.
Land border should show actual control so if Russia controls Crimea then it would be shown as Russia. Sea should go by historical name because usually historical names aren’t confusing otherwise it wouldn’t have lasted so long. Korea’s East Sea and South Sea names are the same as the real East Sea and South Sea further to the south. To have multiple East Sea and South Sea in the same region is just confusing.
The term ‘Yellow Sea’ is commonly used in Korea as a proper name for the ‘West Sea’, as it refers to the muddy soil on the beach heads of the water mass. The ‘South Sea’ is also called as the ‘East China Sea’ and the ‘Korean Strait’ are used in Korea just as the international society recognizes. However, the dispute between ‘Sea of Japan’ and ‘East Sea’ is more of a geopolitical one since there are islands that are located in the body of water which ate disputed between the two countries such as Dokdo(KR)/Liancourt Rocks(Non-Disputed)/Takeshima(JP). Even though these islands are sovereign Korean territory both now and through history, the Japanese government claims its rule over the islands through many flawed reasons and one of them is the name of the body of water they are associated in. Just looking at this video and having biased opinions about the countries surrounding it is not a good way to approach the problem you first learned about.
Alex H Korea’s “East Sea”, “West Sea”, “South Sea”, “Korean Strait” names are all new creations that have no international support even if Korea tries to ram it through international bodies. “Korean Strait” is “Tsushima Strait” which is name after the island of Tsushima and where Battle of Tsushima happened more than 100 years ago. This wave of renaming and Wikipedia editing is laughable. I am surprised Korea haven’t renamed itself “Middle Kingdom” and rename China “West Kingdom”
Peizxcv It makes me baffled how you are ignorant of East Asian history and culture. The terms introduced in the videos are just the terms ‘West Sea’ and ‘South Sea’ are used in every day life, not in official geographic documents that are published in academic use. If you want to say something of the terms with the four cardinal directions of the compass, why not question other cultures from Korean that call the surrounding natural features after it such as Estonia who calls the Baltics as the ‘West Sea’ or Vietnam who calls the South China Sea as the ‘East Sea’. These are not the only cases. You can find several examples if you just look it up. You have totally lost my point, maybe you could read what I’ve said instead of watching anime the whole time. And if you do not know what the Korea Strait is, you could just google it and see what Wikipedia has to say about it. Reply if you have further comments :D
@@alexh1946 Estonia calls the Baltic Sea "West Sea" while the Germans call it "East Sea" and that's totally fine. Arguing for having anybody else use that term however is insane.
It might be interesting to have a future that leans on this "different view from different lens" sense, where digital maps overtly show mapping from one culture's perspective *within* that culture and another's within theirs. So, if using French as the language or are located in Québec, Haiti, Louisiana, Burkina Faso, Cameroun, Wallonia or France, you would see Acadia instead of the Maritime provinces of New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and PEI; or in Inuktitut/from Iqaluit, you would see Inuit Nunangat mapped instead of/alongside Québec, NWT, Yukon, Alaska; or Kurdish/from Erbil seeing Kurdistan and Rojava The world according to _______ and then being able to see through the eyes of a German, Igbo, Mapuche or Kaurna...
About the Persian gulf debate. May i remind everyone that for a long time, the power countrolling the area was... Iran. Not to mention that Iran has the most coastline in the persian gulf AND it controls the straight of hormuz, which I would say is quite important.
The Strait of Hormuz is located in the Arabian Gulf region and separates the waters of the Arabian Gulf on one side and the waters of (Makran Gulf) and the Arabian Sea and the Indian Ocean on the other. It is overlooked from the north by Iran, and from the south by the Sultanate of Oman, which (supervises) the maritime traffic in it, considering that the passage of ships comes within its territorial waters. just for your info
In ancient China, Japan sea was called "Whale sea(鯨海)" and this was international name anciently. But Italian missionary Matteo Ricci named "Japan sea(日本海)" for the first time when he issued world maps in 1602 and this name have been used as international name until now.
@@kaitlyn__L And the WHALING is putting them in to the endangered species category! If they love them so much they should be more careful about NOT wiping them out and stop over fishing.
my dude...respect... ur r some times pronounce it as w...but still u came forward to talk to thousands of people... just respect bro..and the quality is neet.
In Turkey, we call it Gulf of Basra. Quite funny actually, I didn't know what Persian Gulf was. Apparently this name is what Ottoman Empire gave to it, when they controlled the land around.
Then you need to correct it because it's the Persian gulf all over the world only not in Arab countries. Or wait is Turkey already becoming an Arab country because of the Arab migration? ;)
@@mortezaakbari4606 dude I didn't name the Gulf and I don't really care about the name. I'd like to call it Persian Gulf myself if I was able to, but again, my opinion simply does not matter.
@@ererper5434 are you serious right now? The name "Gulf of Basra" existed for hundreds of years, as I said, when Ottomans ruled the area. How's that related to migrations? And the Arabic world calls it the Arabic Gulf. Still not related. What you're saying is so unneccesary and ridiculous. (Despite the fact that it's mainly called Basra in the Ottoman times, some old documents use the term 'Haliç-i Fars' which means Persian Gulf in Ottoman Turkish, which has more Persian influence than Arabic.)
Persian Gulf. All historical sources have referred to it as such. On almost all maps printed before 1960, and in most modern international treaties, documents and maps, this body of water is known by the name "Persian Gulf". It was referred to as the Persian Gulf by all Arab historians, geographers and political leaders such as the Saudi king Abdulaziz ibn Saud and the Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser. Sir Charles Belgrave (British adviser to the ruler of Bahrain) was the first known person to use and advocate the name 'Arabian gulf', first in the journal Soat al-Bahrain (Voice of Bahrain) in 1955.
Tmi: in Indonesia there are one districts called Cibubur, which located in 3 differently city border: Jakarta, Depok, dan Bogor which really confusing the people who lives there; whether they could be lived in Cibubur nearby Jakarta but in the Civil data center, they written lived in Cibubur nearby Depok.
@@beepbeepcasucha But you must cross the East Sea to reach Japan, like you must cross the Irish Sea from Britain or the Celtic Sea from Europe to reach Ireland. The sea of Japan is a more neutral name to those not Korean.
@@talal-alqahtani I don't want to argue with uneducated people. Iranian Arabs don't wanna be involved with actual Arabs. They say even that "we are not the same as them"
@@talal-alqahtani I never say that they don't wanna rebel against Iran.. I'm saying that "Arabs" from Iran don't wanna be associated with the actual Arab world. Because Iranian Arabs say: we don't wanna be involved with those. With grasshopper eating Arabs 😂😂😂
I’m from Arunachal Pradesh. And it’s outrageous that China claims our land to be a part of China . I’m indian not Chinese . Forget souther Tibet even Tibet isn’t rightfully Chinese . I’d burn the Chinese flag the next time Chinese foreign ministry brings this up .
@@jackyex Well, Outer Manchuria is pretty much dead, it's almost completely Russian now. And, the sea was mostly used by Koreans, Japanese and t h e d u t c h, as far as I know Manchuria weren't too effective on waters, if they did they'd claim Sakhalin anyways...
The line between Crimea and Ukraine on the Ukrainian version of google is there because it shows a different region of Ukraine and considers Crimea it’s own not because there’s a international border there because that’s what you made it seem like
The river that serves as border between the United States of America and the United Mexican States is named “Rio Grande” by USA and “Río Bravo” by UMS.
Google is not impartial at all, it's still writing the Essequibo region as a part of Guyana, but Venezuela claims the region longtime ago and in the country it's illegal to show a map without the Essequibo as part of Venezuela. BTW is the second largest claimed region in the World after the Cachemira.
Names and language are, and have always been, expressions of power. And google maps already adjusts itself to its audience through different languages, a Germany would be called Deutschland in a German language version of the site. And so while not taking a side on name disputes might seem like the coward's way out, I can see the line of thinking as google maps is both authoritative and unqualified to weigh in on these things. For disputed borders, the most accurate way to reflect them wouldn't be prescriptive, siding with one side or another, but descriptive. Because no matter who you think *should* control disputed land, in the moment the answer is complicated. And while I understand the propaganda value of putting a hard border on land you claim you should control, even in those cases it would be more accurate to say "this should be our land for xyz reason, but if our tax collectors were sent in there, they'd probably be shot". You don't create maps that indicate you've won a war you're currently fighting, be that war military or diplomatic.
@@Yasser056 i love how Israel took the fake country Palestine lol at least jews are not arabs 😂😂😂 god bless nation of Israel may they succeed in removing fake name Palestine
Slightly unrelated, but I think all countries and cities should be internationally recognised by their endonym or as close to that pronounciation as possible. Ex: Italia, España, Deutschland, Nederland, Roma, München, Napoli, etc.
BabsW: Very sweet idea. But what about languages that use different writing.... if I go to the Map of Saudi Arabia, on Google Maps, and everything is in Arabic...what I supposed to do with that? I don't read Russian, Japanese or Chinese or 100+ other languages either, so I would never be able to use those maps. It makes no sense.
사실 일본애들이나 외국애들이 일본해라고 하는건 상관 없음. 일본애들은 옛날부터 일본해라고 했다고 하고, 외국애들 보기에도 그냥 동해라고만 하면 위치상 복잡하다는거니까. 근데 우리도 옛날부터 동해라고 불러왔고, 그게 더 익숙하고 동해에 우리 영해가 없는 것도 아니니깐 굳이 일본해라고 부를 이유가 없는거지. 그러니까 서로 알아서 부르고 싶은대로 부르면 되는거고 신경 안쓰면 됨. 굳이 왜 싸워야 하지? 독도는 우리 주민이 살고있고 우리 경찰, 우리 군인이 있고 옛부터 우리땅이었으니까 우리나라 영토인거고, 대마도도 옛날부터 일본어 화자 민족이 살아왔고 일본인이 거주하고 일본 경찰, 일본 자위대가 주둔하니 일본 땅인거지. 센카쿠 열도도 똑같은 거고. 쿠릴열도는 그냥 알아서 할 일이고.
@Ladey Babey there's literally no map until 14th century that doesn't call the Persian Gulf “Persian Gulf” and even that didn't call it the “Arabian gulf”. The first map with that name was made in the 1960s.
@Ladey Babey Persian Gulf. All historical sources have referred to it as such. On almost all maps printed before 1960, and in most modern international treaties, documents and maps, this body of water is known by the name "Persian Gulf". It was referred to as the Persian Gulf by all Arab historians, geographers and political leaders such as the Saudi king Abdulaziz ibn Saud and the Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser. Sir Charles Belgrave (British adviser to the ruler of Bahrain) was the first known person to use and advocate the name 'Arabian gulf', first in the journal Soat al-Bahrain (Voice of Bahrain) in 1955.
1:14 The Sea of Japan, ancient Chinese called it the Sea of Whale. If Russia didn't occupy the outer Manchuria and locked China out of this sea in 1860s when Qing dynasty faced Second Opium War with UK and France, then maybe today this sea will recognize another name in Chinese version google map.
@@myothersoul1953 Ad Hominem? I didnt attack you, I said that youll grow up in age and look back at this conversation hopefully changing your perspective, I too will grow up and change my perspective on many things too, everyone grows up??? You should think better of people, even though its the internet that doesnt mean everyone is out to insult you and sabotage you.
I’m Libyan and I call it the Persian Gulf,,, it’s how it has been called for centuries,, just cuz Arabs now are richer and have influence doesn’t change facts
I'm sorry but it's funny I really think something historical happened . I don't think money can control everything like that . Also, I really don't care what it is or what its name is. I just wish peace
That’s the thing tho there was a battle won by the great warrior Khalid ibn Walid against the Persians and one of his terms of not invading we’re that it would be renamed to the Arabian gulf and you could find historical evidence such as letters from the Byzantine empire writing to Arabia and relating to it as the *Arabian Gulf* not Persian
Persian Gulf. All historical sources have referred to it as such. On almost all maps printed before 1960, and in most modern international treaties, documents and maps, this body of water is known by the name "Persian Gulf". It was referred to as the Persian Gulf by all Arab historians, geographers and political leaders such as the Saudi king Abdulaziz ibn Saud and the Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser. Sir Charles Belgrave (British adviser to the ruler of Bahrain) was the first known person to use and advocate the name 'Arabian gulf', first in the journal Soat al-Bahrain (Voice of Bahrain) in 1955.
For a long time in East Germany there were only maps showing West Germany as a white area. If private individuals got maps at all. When visiting the East, my father left the West German Road Atlas with friends. This was completely in the West and East (perhaps not entirely up-to-date in the East) but was treated like a treasure in the East. But at that time West German citizenship theoretically extended to West and East, but East German citizenship only extended to the East.
The name is also interesting: From the west "German border inland" "Antifascite protective wall" from the east. But if it was a protective wall to protect against external influences, then the barriers are the wrong way round.
Edward Yan yup. That’s the first name that stuck so why bother changing it? It’s a nice bit of history wrapped in it. Why censor it to please Arabian nationalists?
Persian gulf is Persian gulf before any States in Arabian peninsula. They named it Persian because Persia almost always ruled it's shores. It's not the westerners who named it, it were Greeks who did so.
If you are in Morocco, Google won't show the disputed territory "Western Sahara"
@ it's disputed and many people live there! you may read about the establishment of MINURSO and its mission
@@alanraftel5033 al tho idk much about this situation
from what i know
morocco is claiming western sahara as theirs
and others are saying it's independent or somethin right?
@@fitmotheyap yeah Morocco claims it as theirs, since Morocco became independent and the famous "green march" as a symbol of independency in morocco and moroccan people reclaiming the western sahara after the Spanish colonization. and I can say that as I am from Laayoune, a city from Western Sahara as you may call it, and I consider myself morrocan and this region belongs to Morocco, and most people consider themselves moroccan in here so idk why people only try to listen to minorities who wanna be independent from Morocco
Google: Reality can be whatever i want.
Literally
Nah it's not about what Google wants, if Google wants to offer Maps they often have to show what the local government wants (in case you didn't watch or understand the video).
@@Zwidawurzn issa joke
Its what those nations waant
Google: Reality can be whatever you want, we are in this for money
I can understand Kashmir but the Chinese claim of Arunachal Pradesh is totally unjustified. The people living there identify themselves as Indian and every part of it is administered by the government of India. I can say so because I live in the adjacent state of Assam.
Greedy China
No we shouldn't understand Kashmir Kashmir is India's territory and there is no if aur but about it China's claim on Arunachal Pradesh is simply stupid we should simply put our claimant on Tibet as whole
@@yashvardhanthakur1968 but kashmiri people don't want to be a part of india anymore. They have the right to be free or a part of Pakistan.
@@fluff5 because majority of India supporters were driven out of Kashmir and took refuge in Punjab, Haryana and Delhi.
kkk kidney
☝️+ You can very easily imagine if Kashmir were to gain independence or become part of Pakistan it won't last in new situation for long. China would take over very soon thereby shifting the balance of power in the region fully into China's favours and providing them with a fresh water source they so badly need right now.
Japan can’t call the sea “East Sea” because it in Japan’s west 🤷♂️
Hannes Rechert no Korea and China calls it east sea
It can still be called the East Sea... japan isn’t everwhere
Wow u r genius
technicaly if you went east from japan you would raech the sea of japan
@@hdskipper9878 u don't get it do u? Smh
1950s : Taiwan is a part of China since ancient time
1960s: Arunachal and Kashmir are part of China since ancient time
2020: South China Sea is a part of China since ancient time
2100: Moon is a part of China since ancient time
140 years before 2100 communist come to the moon and now suddenly it is ancient not even historic most of our Indian buildings are 200 years old
And corona virus is not from china for ancient time
@@rdx4080 hM
Most 'since ancient time' claims are bullshit. so Ostpreußen is part of Germany since Medieval time so Kaliningrad should be renamed as 'Königsberg' and Russia should return them to the Germany? I don't think so.
Incorrect: Taiwan was China
The right now China was rebels.
Any land or water near China: exists
China: is this for me? 👉👈
Winnie the Pooh mad 😂😂
Just name everything ‘steve’.
Oaf Bro you’re a genius why haven’t we done that yet?
Lost my brain cells...
@@ajwad3524 I didn't expect you to even have one.
@Anti Mapping stfu anti mapper
Why didn't I think of that?
On 6:15 Google doesn't show the border as a ukrainian-russian border, it shows it as a border between Ukraine and Autonomous Republic of Crimea (it's official name of Crimea in Ukraine).
exactly, it´s not a dispute border, it´s a region border
Дякую!
(Thanks from Ukraine)
@@ya_Bob_Jonez Крым это Россия
@@user-sk1rn4wz4w окей срач
@@user-sk1rn4wz4w ну да, и что?
China if there's water near their land : "That's probably mine"
Not just waters but land also
@@Kiror0_ also bhutan, tibet and parts of India.
OUR.
Even Antarctica is probably named China on their maps
China has been colonizing and conquering non-Chinese kingdoms and countries for at least 2 thousands years and forcing them become Chinese
India named a whole ocean and no one's complaining 😂😂
Well back in the day everyone on that coast used that ocean to go to India and trade
No country near India covers as much coastal area as India does, other countries like Sri Lanka,Indonesia,Maldives etc which are completely covered with ocean are smaller than India, hence we got Indian Ocean
No one has the power to question the name which has been used since 2000 years
well it is the 'Indian' subcontinent
It's a joke people, stop trying to explain -_-
Your content is amazing, please don't stop anytime soon!
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@@masterchief9177 oh f
I am from Arunachal Pradesh and we have Indian Army Camps and Airports here and I myself studied at Indian Army School
I love my INDIA
Yo
Google are basically like: "Hypocrisy is the safest policy"
Edit: Im actually surprised you didnt mention the Palestine and Isreal Map Dispute (Back then in western country Palestine basically didnt exist, while it did in Arab country, but recently google just removed the name Palestine from the picture and just referred them as Gaza and West Bank
It's obvious that the land is Israel. Palestinians have no claim to the land.
Mr. Liam Feasting on people while theyre weak only results in more bloodshed later on.
and the cycle just keeps going on, funnily enough the only ones that did relate and gave empathy to the jews back then were the arabs while the western civilization always caused mass genocide (Surprise surprise, germans were never the first, nor will they be the last)
Verry Ganteng the Jews are the proven indigenous people of the land of Israel. If you want to get into the discussion we could. But no, it wasn’t a plan to destablize the Middle East. If the Arabs accepted the first extremely generous plan then we’d already of had peace
@Verry Ganteng I don't speak on behalf of all Israelis but I believe all of the West Bank is for Israel. Its historic Judea and Samaria which belonged to us and has many artifacts for us. The annexation was meant to annex all the parts where nobody lived in. It wouldn't have happened if the Palestinians accepted the 6 state/peace offers from Israel that would give them an established state in the West Bank and Gaza but they want all or nothing. It's clear these people are at fault from there clear stubborness and ignorance.
Verry Ganteng half Israeli half American. My family is from Israel but I live in America.
In Finland we call Baltic sea "Itämeri" which literally means East sea, even though it is west of us. This is because we used to be invaded by Sweden for centuries, and from their point of view Baltic sea lies in the east. Then again Estonians call Baltic sea "Läänemeri" which means West sea. Pretty wild, right?
You're basically all swedes anyway.
It's south of Finland not west
I'm surprised there is no different maps about the Palestinian/isrealy location
There are plenty more situations like this on Google Maps. The video just presents a few examples :)
Your username 😂
@Thomas Shelby Leader of the Peaky Fookin Blinders lol ok
@Thomas Shelby Leader of the Peaky Fookin Blinders hM
I'm Israeli, we don't have a different map (even though Israel considers East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights to be part of it). I also went to Palestinian google maps, looks the same. Doesn't look like there's Syria google maps.
Japan: Sea of Japan
South Korea: East Sea
North Korea: Korean East Sea.
South Korea: I pretend I didn't heard that bro.
I think Sea of Japan needs to be accepted. I expect people who live in Earth except for Korea and Japan recognize that sea as Sea of Japan.
Actually, The name doesn't matter.
Indian Ocean contacts with so many countries including Australia.
But Australian government doesn't complain about Indian Ocean.
And We have Korean strait.
North Korea also using East sea
Many seas & oceans are one continuous body of water
@신광민 걍 넘어가요. 독도 영유권만 지키면 될 것 같은데
East Sea seems better because it is not claimed by both the Korean and the Japanese
Great content as always, showing how territorial claims can be strengthened or weakened by how they are labeled on maps, keep up the great work!
Found your channel the other day, and I can't get enough. This is pure quality!
Informative, interesting and very well executed. I did hit that follow button halfway throughout the first video and it's been a pleasure! Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much! Thats really motivating
When I tried to hover the street view icon over Area 51, the icon goes from a person to a flying saucer. I wonder if that happens to users outside the U.S?
Works for swedish google maps too. Which means it probably does for every country.
@@ameliawikstrom8018 True, worked for google maps Belgium too.
Works for Australia
Works for Turkey
How do you hower the street view icon?
Your production quality is pretty neat. Keep up the great work.
Good Intel
Making me think about maps critically
2:36 All historical documents in the world
It is registered and written in the name of the Persian Gulf.
No it's not
It’s been the Persian gulf for thousand of years. Why should the name suddenly change?
no one rly cares what it's called
-signed, an Arab
@@csx03 They cared enough to insist it be changed.
Idk maybe dominance over the gulf or something
I am neither Arab or Persian, but we learned it has two names and more Arab gulf is more widely used. There is also an argument to be made about it being called Arabian gulf because it is surrounded from all sides by Arabs even in Iran the people on the gulf are called the Ahwazi people and they are Arabs who live in Iran.
@@fanta6285 that's the point on all side the gulf is surrounded with Arabs even from the Iranian side
Story:
My father is Arabian and mother is Persian. I've grown up in Kuwait where we were made to believe that the Persian Gulf is an Arabian Gulf. I looked like a fool when I moved to Australia the first time as a sponsored student and happened to mention this Arabian Gulf and got laughed at. Wasn't really fun. I personally believe that the Persian Gulf is Persian is a fact as true as the way Iran is Persia.
I believe the whole Arabian gulf thing started around the 60's as Arab nationalism took off.
yall claim its the Persian Gulf just how you claimed Emirate of Arabistan and killed its leader. Since 1500s the Arabian Gulf been surrounded by arabs it make no f*cking sense to name it the Persian Gulf. Also you gonna say that in history maps it says the Persian. We don't define ourselves based on what the greeks or the romans call us or call our land. We been living in this region for thousands of years no one can come and name our region for us like the Spanish did to the Philippines.
Also the Arabian gulf is more important to us than to Iran which has no cities on its coast. Unlike Kuwait, Bahrian, Qatar, Saudi Arabian, UAE and Oman.All these Arabian states have a dense population on the coast of the Arabian Gulf. Before the discovery oil since the mid 1800s these countries economy relayed on fishing and pearling in the gulf.
@@7164227 We have been living here too, why not be satisfied with having an entire sea?
@@7164227 You don't know anything about Iran or Persia, when Persia was an empire you were living as nomads in the dessert! Iran has many cities across the Persian Gulf, Bandar Abbas and Bushehr are just two examples and we have many islands. Your countries (Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain etc.) Have the same population as Iranian secondary cities like Esfahan, Mashhad, Shiraz etc. also most of your Arab countries have only a minority of Arabs livng in them as most of your population consists of foreign workers from India, Philipines,... and western expats. Persian have been there for thousands of years and your countries aren't even a 100 years old lol
The Persian Gulf has been for the Persians for 2500 years and now it is the Persian Gulf and not the Arabian Gulf

its arabian gulf
@@s1wordthise gulf for persian's for ever
@@kasrabarati1277 Herodotus the father of history , mentioned that it is the Arabian Gulf, but he did not mention the Persian Gulf .The Persians were settling in Central Asia, and they were not present in the Middle East until 800 BC. so it is ( ARBIAN GULF )
@@s1word Why are you bringing a Greek historian when an Arab historian like ibn Khaldun called it Persian Gulf? Herodotus called the Red Sea as the Arabian Gulf.
I keep forgetting that this isn't a massive channel with hundreds of employees. The quality is so great!
The line which appears when zooming Crimea (Ukr. version) only shows you the border between two Ukrainian regions. Kherson region and Crimea. This line will always appear when zooming regions' borders in Ukraine.
Yes, region border
For the Philippines: “West Philippine Sea”
For the Chinese: “South China Sea”
For Vietnam: "East sea" (again)
@abdsf eufa except that the Philippines is not claiming the whole sea.
Did you mean *The Province of China: Philippines*
Hey!
I did look for the Japanese and Korean disputed sea...there is also one more interesting thing, the part of the sea surrounding Korea is named in the manner "East sea/Sea of Japan" while, the part of the sea surrounding Japan is named in the manner "Sea of Japan/East Sea" depicting naming supremacy.
Great video. It is nice to see all additions in the comments! If I could add my own: look up the Costa Rica - Nicaragua "Google maps war", the San Juan dispute. I was very surprised you didn't mention it, as it displays the consequences this policy can have.
Also Colombia-Nicaragua (San Andrés area) and Colombia-Venezuela (Coquibacoa Gulf)
China: South China Sea
Indonesia : North Natuna Sea (In Indonesia Region)
Just call it Eastern Sea of Korea and Japan.😂
Then they'll argue over which country should come first in that name.
Well then it will be west of japan and name will make no sense to japan i guess?
or call it "It's just a fucking sea"
Its sea of Japan nothing else
Border disputes are one thing. Naming conflicts another.
Here in Germany we refer to the baltic sea as "East Sea", because it is to our east.
Or the Lake Constance (named after a city on it's shores) is called "Bodensee" (after another place on it's shores)
And we actually have a border "dispute" at the end of the river Ems, where the question is if the border goes in the middle of the river or following it's deepest part. The conclusion was to clear the dispute later and everyone seems happy with that ambiguous solution.
China in 2040: moon belongs to us since our Chinese ancestors used to look at it every day
Fun fact: North Korea claims Sea of Japan/East Sea to be named Sea of Korea.
Edit: okay apparently it's "Korean East Sea" and not "Sea of Korea". I apologize lol.
Really?
@@fyrhunter_svk yes
@@fyrhunter_svk well actually just searched it up... they actually call it "Korean East Sea" but i could swear i was told it was "Sea of Korea" lol. Sorry.
@@alinek2289 Sea of Korea (Mer de Corée) is name that had been used up to ~19c by European countries. I think there were a lot of different names that you (or your source) might've been confused.
To be fair, it is east of Korea. But it's also west of Japan.
Really quality content, great as always!
In USA there is a Google difference between Clark's Hill lake on the Georgia side and Lake Strom Thurmond on South Carolina side. Interesting history, one should look further into the story.
triplej 1872 boring. People in usa even protest in cars
Arabia gulf is Red Sea, Persian Gulf is in Iran-Saudi-Iraq-Kuwait. It was name Persian because it was Persian empire, even Arab was Native to the South Iraq and Ahwaz or today Khuzestan Province, Kuwait, Arabia Peninsular and Iran Gulf Coast, it was Part of Persian Empire, that rule Iraq , Bahrain and even to Yemen.
No we arab lived in both sides and the Persian didn’t have fled ships unlike the arab we had at Omani Earab region
There is another famous one you missed out. The historic and cultural rivalry between England and France. That narrow stretch of water between England and France, in English it is known as "The English Channel", while in French, it is known as "La Manche".
Great video. The Sea of Japan/East Sea conflict is a little odd. Its not strange that Korea calls it East Sea, but demaning that everyone else do is quite unreasonable.
In Sweden we call the Baltic Sea Östersjön (which is also the East Sea, or East Lake) because it is to the east of us. But demanding everyone else call it that would be strange.
The funny thing about this is that in all germanic languages except english its called the East Sea and even in Finnish. Then we have Estonia which calls its the West Sea and the rest of the world calls it the baltic sea.
That's right. It can be Sea of japan, also East sea (I'm Korean)
@@Dhjaru Was going to comment on this. Yeah, Östersjön is the name even when it is west of us in Finland :)
That's why I prefer OpenStreet Maps. They just show the de-facto borders. Also, they don't take years to update a map. When the crimean bridge was built, or the Hong-Kong-Zhuhai Bridge they had them really fast. Google took forever to add satelite footage, and still hasn't designated the bridge on the default map.
so how do they decide what the defacto borders are
@@I_AM_HYDRAA | They don't. The decisions are made by the countries on the ground. One decides to occupy an extra km², OpenStreet updates the map accurately. That is what de-facto means. A fact. It doesn't matter what claims are made. They can say whatever they want, but facts are facts. You can't change them with words. Actions only.
@@sowhat249 so how does that work for some of these examples
@@I_AM_HYDRAA | Umm, lets see. Numerous examples but here are several of the more popular ones.
Ukraine doesn't recognize Russian sovereignty over Crimea. And most of the other countries agree with Ukraine. That means that for most countries, Google Maps, will display a map in which Crimea is a part of Ukraine.
But that is not true. Crimea is de facto part of Russia, and Open Street Maps shows a map depicting the real situation.
Google maps will also display a different map for Japan, which shows the Southern Kuril Islands as part of Japan, whereas open street map only displays true to the situation map, a map where these islands are a part of Russia.
Google maps displays a map of Israel different for different countries.
For israel it will display a map where the entirety of Palestine (except Gaza), and the Golan Heights are a part of Israel. For Palestine and most arab countries it will display a map where none of the territory is under occupation. For Syria it will display Golan Heights as part of Syria.
Open street maps displays the Golan Heights as part of Israel, and most of Palestine with dotten lines to show how much is occupied and how much is not, as in real life.
In the case of Kashmir, for India Google displays a map where the entirety of Kashmir is in India, for Pakistan it displays a map where entirety of Kashmir (except Chinese occupied parts) are a part of Pakistan.
Open street maps displays a map according to the line of control, with Kashmir divided between India, Pakistan and China.
For Serbia, Google displays a map on which Kosovo is a part of Serbia.
Open streets map depicts kosovo as separate, which it de facto is.
For Cyprus, google displays an undivided map.
Open street maps displays a map showing both Cyprus and the Turkish republic of cyprus, and also the british occupied Cyprus that acts as a buffer between the two.
See... Google will just twist the map to fit a narrative, while Open Street Maps will show a map which depicts reality on the ground.
Is OSM is blocked in China?
Google: we want to make easy maps.
China: hold my territorial claims.
China - The Greedy Dog
Golden Era can u give me an example where countries didn’t fight over territories when they can???
Interceptor Cop haha totally the opposite...
@@juyngkwogayo206 but china have issues with its all neighbourhood countries
Golden Era u think the USA doesn’t? U kidding me?
There's also the Russo-Japanese dispute over the Kurill islands, the borders of Palestine, Kurdistan and the dispute over the Golan heights
But sometime a country has to realize that lost land is lost. Forget it and move on.
Denmark will have the right to Norway and England. Macedonia may consider Iran to be theirs.
Not to mention Caddo, Savoy and Novgorod.
@@niklasmolen4753 Modern Macedonia is slav, right? So they don't have a right to claim Iran
@@niklasmolen4753 I agree, which is why Israel can't claim the vague borders of the long extinct Israelites for themselves. 2000 years is far too long.
There is no kurdistan btw
Kashmir and Kosovo: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
Japan: Sea of Japan
South Korea: East Sea
North Korea: The Great Sea of Kim Il-Sung
Also with reference to the East/Japanese Sea dispute. The term Japanese sea connects to name to a geographic area while naming the sea the East Sea completely depends on your point of view. Would be weird if Japan had to refer to a body of water as the East sea when it borders the western side of their Island.
Land border should show actual control so if Russia controls Crimea then it would be shown as Russia.
Sea should go by historical name because usually historical names aren’t confusing otherwise it wouldn’t have lasted so long. Korea’s East Sea and South Sea names are the same as the real East Sea and South Sea further to the south. To have multiple East Sea and South Sea in the same region is just confusing.
your comment is underrated !
The term ‘Yellow Sea’ is commonly used in Korea as a proper name for the ‘West Sea’, as it refers to the muddy soil on the beach heads of the water mass. The ‘South Sea’ is also called as the ‘East China Sea’ and the ‘Korean Strait’ are used in Korea just as the international society recognizes. However, the dispute between ‘Sea of Japan’ and ‘East Sea’ is more of a geopolitical one since there are islands that are located in the body of water which ate disputed between the two countries such as Dokdo(KR)/Liancourt Rocks(Non-Disputed)/Takeshima(JP). Even though these islands are sovereign Korean territory both now and through history, the Japanese government claims its rule over the islands through many flawed reasons and one of them is the name of the body of water they are associated in. Just looking at this video and having biased opinions about the countries surrounding it is not a good way to approach the problem you first learned about.
Alex H Korea’s “East Sea”, “West Sea”, “South Sea”, “Korean Strait” names are all new creations that have no international support even if Korea tries to ram it through international bodies. “Korean Strait” is “Tsushima Strait” which is name after the island of Tsushima and where Battle of Tsushima happened more than 100 years ago.
This wave of renaming and Wikipedia editing is laughable. I am surprised Korea haven’t renamed itself “Middle Kingdom” and rename China “West Kingdom”
Peizxcv It makes me baffled how you are ignorant of East Asian history and culture. The terms introduced in the videos are just the terms ‘West Sea’ and ‘South Sea’ are used in every day life, not in official geographic documents that are published in academic use. If you want to say something of the terms with the four cardinal directions of the compass, why not question other cultures from Korean that call the surrounding natural features after it such as Estonia who calls the Baltics as the ‘West Sea’ or Vietnam who calls the South China Sea as the ‘East Sea’. These are not the only cases. You can find several examples if you just look it up. You have totally lost my point, maybe you could read what I’ve said instead of watching anime the whole time. And if you do not know what the Korea Strait is, you could just google it and see what Wikipedia has to say about it. Reply if you have further comments :D
@@alexh1946 Estonia calls the Baltic Sea "West Sea" while the Germans call it "East Sea" and that's totally fine. Arguing for having anybody else use that term however is insane.
underrated content!
we need to post more comments and like the video, so that people see this channel!
Keep doing these sort of videos. Very interesting.
1:10 just call it East Sea of Japan. fixed
it was in thewest sideof japan.
6:15 no no, on the ukrainian version it shows the region border, but if you go to the place where russia reaches Crimea, you can see a border.
It might be interesting to have a future that leans on this "different view from different lens" sense, where digital maps overtly show mapping from one culture's perspective *within* that culture and another's within theirs. So, if using French as the language or are located in Québec, Haiti, Louisiana, Burkina Faso, Cameroun, Wallonia or France, you would see Acadia instead of the Maritime provinces of New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and PEI; or in Inuktitut/from Iqaluit, you would see Inuit Nunangat mapped instead of/alongside Québec, NWT, Yukon, Alaska; or Kurdish/from Erbil seeing Kurdistan and Rojava
The world according to _______ and then being able to see through the eyes of a German, Igbo, Mapuche or Kaurna...
I think you can do that if u get a vpn
About the Persian gulf debate. May i remind everyone that for a long time, the power countrolling the area was... Iran. Not to mention that Iran has the most coastline in the persian gulf AND it controls the straight of hormuz, which I would say is quite important.
Literally the Persian gulf has nothing to do with the Arabs 🤣
@@ererper5434 the only thing it has to do with them is that they are next to it
The Strait of Hormuz is located in the Arabian Gulf region and separates the waters of the Arabian Gulf on one side and the waters of (Makran Gulf) and the Arabian Sea and the Indian Ocean on the other. It is overlooked from the north by Iran, and from the south by the Sultanate of Oman, which (supervises) the maritime traffic in it, considering that the passage of ships comes within its territorial waters. just for your info
@@user-ye1tm2uu1c well since u used "Arabian" gulf your whole comment is null
@@alirazi9198 ru fkn kidding me ???
bro . This is not my words, I took it from a website after I searched for the real place
In ancient China, Japan sea was called "Whale sea(鯨海)" and this was international name anciently.
But Italian missionary Matteo Ricci named "Japan sea(日本海)" for the first time when he issued world maps in 1602 and this name have been used as international name until now.
鯨海の方が紛争とか起こらないのに。
Thanks for sharing, I learned something new today :)
Whale sea is definitely the most evocative and poetic name IMO
@@kaitlyn__L And the WHALING is putting them in to the endangered species category! If they love them so much they should be more careful about NOT wiping them out and stop over fishing.
my dude...respect... ur r some times pronounce it as w...but still u came forward to talk to thousands of people... just respect bro..and the quality is neet.
I'm so glad that this channel exists. It's a whole new source of great content!
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In Turkey, we call it Gulf of Basra. Quite funny actually, I didn't know what Persian Gulf was. Apparently this name is what Ottoman Empire gave to it, when they controlled the land around.
persian gulf is the 2500 y.o name of this gulf....you idiot
Then you need to correct it because it's the Persian gulf all over the world only not in Arab countries. Or wait is Turkey already becoming an Arab country because of the Arab migration? ;)
@@mortezaakbari4606 dude I didn't name the Gulf and I don't really care about the name. I'd like to call it Persian Gulf myself if I was able to, but again, my opinion simply does not matter.
@@ererper5434 are you serious right now? The name "Gulf of Basra" existed for hundreds of years, as I said, when Ottomans ruled the area. How's that related to migrations? And the Arabic world calls it the Arabic Gulf. Still not related. What you're saying is so unneccesary and ridiculous.
(Despite the fact that it's mainly called Basra in the Ottoman times, some old documents use the term 'Haliç-i Fars' which means Persian Gulf in Ottoman Turkish, which has more Persian influence than Arabic.)
Persian Gulf. All historical sources have referred to it as such. On almost all maps printed before 1960, and in most modern international treaties, documents and maps, this body of water is known by the name "Persian Gulf". It was referred to as the Persian Gulf by all Arab historians, geographers and political leaders such as the Saudi king Abdulaziz ibn Saud and the Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser. Sir Charles Belgrave (British adviser to the ruler of Bahrain) was the first known person to use and advocate the name 'Arabian gulf', first in the journal Soat al-Bahrain (Voice of Bahrain) in 1955.
Tmi: in Indonesia there are one districts called Cibubur, which located in 3 differently city border: Jakarta, Depok, dan Bogor which really confusing the people who lives there; whether they could be lived in Cibubur nearby Jakarta but in the Civil data center, they written lived in Cibubur nearby Depok.
how does he do these zooms at an angle?
East Sea makes no sense since it is not on the east side of Japan.
If it was called the East Sea, Japan would then have the East Sea on its western coastine, the current name Sea of Japan seems more logical.
The North Sea is located south of Norway
Bruh South Korea is the one claiming that its East Sea not Japan.
East of Korea, hence East Sea to South Korean people.
@@beepbeepcasucha
But you must cross the East Sea to reach Japan, like you must cross the Irish Sea from Britain or the Celtic Sea from Europe to reach Ireland. The sea of Japan is a more neutral name to those not Korean.
Exactly
They can call it whatever they want.. It has been Persian Gulf for thousands of years
Are you 5k years old?
@@talal-alqahtani Haha you are funny!
@@talal-alqahtani I don't want to argue with uneducated people. Iranian Arabs don't wanna be involved with actual Arabs. They say even that "we are not the same as them"
@@talal-alqahtani I never say that they don't wanna rebel against Iran.. I'm saying that "Arabs" from Iran don't wanna be associated with the actual Arab world. Because Iranian Arabs say: we don't wanna be involved with those. With grasshopper eating Arabs 😂😂😂
@@talal-alqahtani um... are you dumb? IRAN HAS THE BIGGEST BORDER WITH THE PERSIAN GULF! Also, persians do live near the persian gulf.
This video is soo underrated! Is so well done !
I’m from Arunachal Pradesh. And it’s outrageous that China claims our land to be a part of China . I’m indian not Chinese . Forget souther Tibet even Tibet isn’t rightfully Chinese . I’d burn the Chinese flag the next time Chinese foreign ministry brings this up .
2:08 option 3 just call it the Manchurian Sea.
But. Manchuria doesn't border the Sea of Japan...
@@emiriye it does though, the part of russia that borders the sea is called outer manchuria.
@@jackyex Well, Outer Manchuria is pretty much dead, it's almost completely Russian now. And, the sea was mostly used by Koreans, Japanese and t h e d u t c h, as far as I know Manchuria weren't too effective on waters, if they did they'd claim Sakhalin anyways...
@@emiriye most of manchuria is dead now too, the majority of the population is hand Chinese but we still call it manchuria.
@@jackyex It is kind of wrong too. It's like calling Pennisylvania "Iroquis."
Another conflict is the "Islas Malvinas " vs "Falklands Islands "
XDDD
Solo existen las Malvinas, no hay discusión en eso.
Name everything "New World"
Minecraft reference =)
The line between Crimea and Ukraine on the Ukrainian version of google is there because it shows a different region of Ukraine and considers Crimea it’s own not because there’s a international border there because that’s what you made it seem like
The river that serves as border between the United States of America and the United Mexican States is named “Rio Grande” by USA and “Río Bravo” by UMS.
Google is not impartial at all, it's still writing the Essequibo region as a part of Guyana, but Venezuela claims the region longtime ago and in the country it's illegal to show a map without the Essequibo as part of Venezuela. BTW is the second largest claimed region in the World after the Cachemira.
Names and language are, and have always been, expressions of power. And google maps already adjusts itself to its audience through different languages, a Germany would be called Deutschland in a German language version of the site. And so while not taking a side on name disputes might seem like the coward's way out, I can see the line of thinking as google maps is both authoritative and unqualified to weigh in on these things. For disputed borders, the most accurate way to reflect them wouldn't be prescriptive, siding with one side or another, but descriptive. Because no matter who you think *should* control disputed land, in the moment the answer is complicated. And while I understand the propaganda value of putting a hard border on land you claim you should control, even in those cases it would be more accurate to say "this should be our land for xyz reason, but if our tax collectors were sent in there, they'd probably be shot". You don't create maps that indicate you've won a war you're currently fighting, be that war military or diplomatic.
Fun Fact: If you open Google Maps in Turkish, Persian/Arabian Gulf will show as "Gulf of Basra"
Efe Eren lol
Because when Ottoman caliphate ruling the region it was named “Gulf of Basra”
At least Busra is Arabic city not Persian 👍😇
y’all fighting over some salt water
@@Yasser056 i love how Israel took the fake country Palestine lol at least jews are not arabs 😂😂😂 god bless nation of Israel may they succeed in removing fake name Palestine
mo_ Mgr what are you talking about stupid
Amazing video i subscribed with bells and liked the video for this amazing video
Great video and well done on the editing and use of resources
Videos don’t age well when you leave parts of the operating system in them. I would suggest crop on the browser only.
Why?
Slightly unrelated, but I think all countries and cities should be internationally recognised by their endonym or as close to that pronounciation as possible. Ex: Italia, España, Deutschland, Nederland, Roma, München, Napoli, etc.
Why?
it's hard to pronounce some of these names though, that's probably the whole reason why there are different country names in the first place
BabsW: Very sweet idea. But what about languages that use different writing.... if I go to the Map of Saudi Arabia, on Google Maps, and everything is in Arabic...what I supposed to do with that? I don't read Russian, Japanese or Chinese or 100+ other languages either, so I would never be able to use those maps. It makes no sense.
@@macforme And that's where transliteration comes in. I was speaking on attempted pronounciations of countries' names.
사실 일본애들이나 외국애들이 일본해라고 하는건 상관 없음. 일본애들은 옛날부터 일본해라고 했다고 하고, 외국애들 보기에도 그냥 동해라고만 하면 위치상 복잡하다는거니까. 근데 우리도 옛날부터 동해라고 불러왔고, 그게 더 익숙하고 동해에 우리 영해가 없는 것도 아니니깐 굳이 일본해라고 부를 이유가 없는거지. 그러니까 서로 알아서 부르고 싶은대로 부르면 되는거고 신경 안쓰면 됨. 굳이 왜 싸워야 하지? 독도는 우리 주민이 살고있고 우리 경찰, 우리 군인이 있고 옛부터 우리땅이었으니까 우리나라 영토인거고, 대마도도 옛날부터 일본어 화자 민족이 살아왔고 일본인이 거주하고 일본 경찰, 일본 자위대가 주둔하니 일본 땅인거지. 센카쿠 열도도 똑같은 거고. 쿠릴열도는 그냥 알아서 할 일이고.
Takeshima is Japanese territory in the sea of Japan 🇯🇵 and Tsushima is Japanese land. You make no sense
Persian Gulf's name is older than the entire Arab countries. You can find it on maps from ancient Greece, Roman, And even Ottomans.
@Ladey Babey I don't care if some Arabs who have nothing but oil, Agree on that or not, Lady.
@Ladey Babey there's literally no map until 14th century that doesn't call the Persian Gulf “Persian Gulf” and even that didn't call it the “Arabian gulf”. The first map with that name was made in the 1960s.
@Ladey Babey Persian Gulf. All historical sources have referred to it as such. On almost all maps printed before 1960, and in most modern international treaties, documents and maps, this body of water is known by the name "Persian Gulf". It was referred to as the Persian Gulf by all Arab historians, geographers and political leaders such as the Saudi king Abdulaziz ibn Saud and the Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser. Sir Charles Belgrave (British adviser to the ruler of Bahrain) was the first known person to use and advocate the name 'Arabian gulf', first in the journal Soat al-Bahrain (Voice of Bahrain) in 1955.
@Ladey Babeykaren,historical documents and facts are not opinions.
Excellent video, well done man!
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The Sea of Japan, ancient Chinese called it the Sea of Whale.
If Russia didn't occupy the outer Manchuria and locked China out of this sea in 1860s when Qing dynasty faced Second Opium War with UK and France, then maybe today this sea will recognize another name in Chinese version google map.
The intro sounds like the Windows 95 startup noise
It's slowed Windows startup sound
Persian gulf is true
Arabian gulf is dirt
Well Said
@@viveliran7509 thnx
To sort this out ... we call it the Arab gulf
And you call it the Persian gulf 👍🏻🤝
Mohamed Tarek its been the Persian gulf for ages now goodmorning?
@@mtraa.942
All Of the World Call there Persian Gulf
Arabs can call There everything, no problem
Enjoy your unbiased presentation approach.
Be well.
Once again a very detailed and well researched video, DJ Lenn!
It's Persian gulf , ❤ from Croatia
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07:21 how u can record the page from that angle ?
Frank Borr I have no idea
Illuminati confirmed?
Mr. Unentertaining bot. Lol
@@frankborr3395 no its not no its n2001: shrek is so good
Rubin Xhemali what?
The politics of names is a distraction from real and important issues.
The Politice of Names can often be a solution to real and important issues.
@@kp5602 Yes, solutions to real issues created by the politics of names.
@@myothersoul1953
One day youll grow up, remember this conversation, and change your perspective on it.
@@kp5602 Ahhh ad hominem a sure sign someone has nothing useful left say.
@@myothersoul1953
Ad Hominem?
I didnt attack you, I said that youll grow up in age and look back at this conversation hopefully changing your perspective, I too will grow up and change my perspective on many things too, everyone grows up???
You should think better of people, even though its the internet that doesnt mean everyone is out to insult you and sabotage you.
How can this video only have 7000 views ? It's excellent !
In a game called Fly Corp, Crimea is part of the black sea.
I’m Libyan and I call it the Persian Gulf,,, it’s how it has been called for centuries,, just cuz Arabs now are richer and have influence doesn’t change facts
Mazigh Mazigh
Shut up barber
@@iraqi7978 um,rude😒🤦♀️
I'm sorry but it's funny I really think something historical happened . I don't think money can control everything like that . Also, I really don't care what it is or what its name is. I just wish peace
@@depressed_individual0 Arabs will be Arabs when they can't win an argument they show their culture this way.
It's persian gulf
Arabian gulf
It's Albanian lolol
@@Genius766 Bruh it never was
Everyone knows that it was always Persian gulf
@@mtraa.942 comedian
That’s the thing tho there was a battle won by the great warrior Khalid ibn Walid against the Persians and one of his terms of not invading we’re that it would be renamed to the Arabian gulf and you could find historical evidence such as letters from the Byzantine empire writing to Arabia and relating to it as the *Arabian Gulf* not Persian
qwert youngmonkaS Persia and arabia were going to have a war, they then stopped it, but in return the gulf had to be renamed to the *Arabian Gulf*.
Lol what a joke
Go back to dessert
Persian Gulf. All historical sources have referred to it as such. On almost all maps printed before 1960, and in most modern international treaties, documents and maps, this body of water is known by the name "Persian Gulf". It was referred to as the Persian Gulf by all Arab historians, geographers and political leaders such as the Saudi king Abdulaziz ibn Saud and the Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser. Sir Charles Belgrave (British adviser to the ruler of Bahrain) was the first known person to use and advocate the name 'Arabian gulf', first in the journal Soat al-Bahrain (Voice of Bahrain) in 1955.
No prove of any such documents.
great video my dude
What're you doing here?
For a long time in East Germany there were only maps showing West Germany as a white area. If private individuals got maps at all. When visiting the East, my father left the West German Road Atlas with friends. This was completely in the West and East (perhaps not entirely up-to-date in the East) but was treated like a treasure in the East.
But at that time West German citizenship theoretically extended to West and East, but East German citizenship only extended to the East.
The name is also interesting: From the west "German border inland"
"Antifascite protective wall" from the east.
But if it was a protective wall to protect against external influences, then the barriers are the wrong way round.
Oh, I thought It was a Windows 95' start sound at the beginning!
Me too wtf hahaha
East Sea means 'East *Korean* Sea'.
S.Korea must suggest more "Neutral" name. 😏
East sea makes no sense historically. It will always and only be called the sea of Japan 🇯🇵
It's Persian gulf. That's. It.
Edward Yan yup. That’s the first name that stuck so why bother changing it? It’s a nice bit of history wrapped in it. Why censor it to please Arabian nationalists?
Persian gulf is Persian gulf before any States in Arabian peninsula. They named it Persian because Persia almost always ruled it's shores.
It's not the westerners who named it, it were Greeks who did so.
@@congruitan5972 to them, Greeks are 'westerners'
@@anjusanal Yep :b
yeah cuz Persia was so western right? וואחד ערבי
Wow I never knew this! Thanks for the helpful information
But how does google do it in disputed areas ?